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Drugs Delaney
02-11-2013, 06:21 PM
This is a pretty funny and accurate tutorial on how to watch spring training:

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/41523976

He makes a lot of points that I think are likely to apply especially to our Reds:

1. There is no such thing as too much pitching. In a couple of recent preseasons, there has been a bit of a feel that the Reds maybe had too much pitching and needed to trade the 6th or 7th guy to upgrade elsewhere. However, pitchers seem to get injured at a much higher rate than any other position. It is always huge to have a couple guys waiting in the wings in Louisville who can come up and give you good starts for a month or more. Last year's pitching health was so fluky that some may forget how important this is.

2. Take the stats with a big grain of salt. It seems like every year, there is a guy or two who tears it up in spring training and everyone is clamoring for him to make the roster over some other more proven player who struggles. Performance in spring training isn't totally worthless, but it just doesn't mean that much. Guys are working on pitches, trying new things with their swings, playing themselves into shape, etc.

3. Don't get too attached to every prospect. I myself have been guilty of this one. You follow some of these young guys and become convinced they are the next big thing. Only to see 3 of them packaged in a deal for a relief pitcher and sent on their way. There's a pretty huge leap from the low minors to the high minors and then from the high minors to the majors. Odds say most of these guys will fall by the wayside somewhere along the way.


All the above being said, I am really looking forward to the start of spring training, following it too closely and overrating every Red who performs well. I mean some of these guys are coming into the season in the best shape of their lives, that has to be important...

90reds
02-11-2013, 10:01 PM
Yeah I am guilty of #3 every year

Drugs Delaney
02-13-2013, 05:34 PM
Yeah I am guilty of #3 every year

I'm usually guilty of both 2 and 3.

Dave Sappelt is a good example. He hit something like .450 one spring and didn't make the team and I couldn't believe it. I also thought that he and Torreyes were guys who had potentially bright futures with the Reds.

LukeSho
02-14-2013, 01:25 AM
This is a pretty funny and accurate tutorial on how to watch spring training:

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/41523976

He makes a lot of points that I think are likely to apply especially to our Reds:

1. There is no such thing as too much pitching. In a couple of recent preseasons, there has been a bit of a feel that the Reds maybe had too much pitching and needed to trade the 6th or 7th guy to upgrade elsewhere. However, pitchers seem to get injured at a much higher rate than any other position. It is always huge to have a couple guys waiting in the wings in Louisville who can come up and give you good starts for a month or more. Last year's pitching health was so fluky that some may forget how important this is.

2. Take the stats with a big grain of salt. It seems like every year, there is a guy or two who tears it up in spring training and everyone is clamoring for him to make the roster over some other more proven player who struggles. Performance in spring training isn't totally worthless, but it just doesn't mean that much. Guys are working on pitches, trying new things with their swings, playing themselves into shape, etc.

3. Don't get too attached to every prospect. I myself have been guilty of this one. You follow some of these young guys and become convinced they are the next big thing. Only to see 3 of them packaged in a deal for a relief pitcher and sent on their way. There's a pretty huge leap from the low minors to the high minors and then from the high minors to the majors. Odds say most of these guys will fall by the wayside somewhere along the way.


All the above being said, I am really looking forward to the start of spring training, following it too closely and overrating every Red who performs well. I mean some of these guys are coming into the season in the best shape of their lives, that has to be important...


I got attached to the Toddfather! It's working so far! (Knock on wood)

holster10
02-17-2013, 10:50 AM
I just don't follow spring training and avoid #1-#3 all together. A perfect example of why spring training doesn't matter.....Aaron Harang was always terrible in spring training but turned it on when the bell rang. However, I do understand the trouble getting past #2. Baseball is a stat driven game so it's easy to fall into the "spring training superstar trap".

Vander
02-17-2013, 02:45 PM
It's the only time of year when every team in baseball could make the playoffs.

Well, maybe not Houston.

I was drinking water when I read that. Pardon me as I change my shirt...

BlackPete Ibold
02-22-2013, 09:54 AM
Speaking of watching Spring Training... Anybody have a TV schedule for Spring games? As I recall, MLB extra innings doesn't kick in until reg season, so us out of area guys will probably only get a couple of Reds games if we are lucky this Spring.

BlackPete Ibold
02-22-2013, 10:03 AM
Found my answer on the ORG...

4 Broadcasts of 3 games, all on MLB network

3/6 @9am vs LAA (tape delayed)
3/17 @4pm vs Indians
3/24 @4pm vs Rangers
3/24 @3am vs Rangers (tape delayed rebroadcast)

90reds
02-22-2013, 05:16 PM
Well based on today, Ryan Hanigan is our worst catcher and we should have traded Jay Bruce instead of Drew Stubbs!

90reds
02-22-2013, 06:31 PM
Blown save number one. Fire everybody!

Vander
02-22-2013, 06:50 PM
Well based on today, Ryan Hanigan is our worst catcher and we should have traded Jay Bruce instead of Drew Stubbs!

Don't forget that Mez is now our best hitter...

I liked what I saw. They gave up a lot of runs, but we were basically running our Pensacola pitching staff out there. Overall, just happy that baseball is back...

*withdrawal-based shakes subside*

BlackPete Ibold
02-22-2013, 07:34 PM
Q: "How to watch Spring Taining?"

A: "Don't care about results"

holster10
02-28-2013, 10:37 AM
About the only thing worthy of interest for me in ST this year is how B. Hamilton is doing in his first big league camp.