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DWS1125
04-28-2013, 02:45 PM
Didi has impressed so far in Arizona..He very well may be a player the reds will look back on and regret, if they don't sign Choo or win a championship this year.

cincyredway
04-28-2013, 02:47 PM
I haven't followed didi this year , is he starting in Arizona and what are his numbers.

DWS1125
04-28-2013, 03:00 PM
.402 2homeruns in limited action

jhu1321
04-28-2013, 03:28 PM
One week in the majors.

DWS1125
04-28-2013, 03:52 PM
But Cozart is batting .200+ with Votto protecting him

Vottomatic
04-28-2013, 07:04 PM
One week in the majors.

HOF here he comes! :D

Old school 1983
04-28-2013, 07:54 PM
HOF here he comes! :D

He is the next jeter. Duh! :laugh:

DavidMemphis
04-28-2013, 10:17 PM
Hi again, guys, been a long while since i've been here, but i'm back and ready to spur the Reds on to a World Series title! Yes, Cozart has struggled at the plate (even his two hits today were marginal). However, maybe i'm old school, but his defense is INVALUABLE. Especially w/BP manning 2B, we have what I believe to have the best middle infield in the majors, and will for the next decade. Injuries, etc have hurt - meaning he probably should not be batting 2nd in the order, but I, for one, will take a
.250 hitter w/occaisional pop if he has a gold glove - which he will have several by the time he's done. Just my take. Go Reds!

Old school 1983
04-28-2013, 10:27 PM
Hi again, guys, been a long while since i've been here, but i'm back and ready to spur the Reds on to a World Series title! Yes, Cozart has struggled at the plate (even his two hits today were marginal). However, maybe i'm old school, but his defense is INVALUABLE. Especially w/BP manning 2B, we have what I believe to have the best middle infield in the majors, and will for the next decade. Injuries, etc have hurt - meaning he probably should not be batting 2nd in the order, but I, for one, will take a
.250 hitter w/occaisional pop if he has a gold glove - which he will have several by the time he's done. Just my take. Go Reds!

Agreed. Great defense wins championships. He's hitting out of place and is still probably scuffling because of the HBP on the hand. Find a two hole or 4 hole hitter. I'm sure Walt will turn one out, and cozarts numbers will look great in the 7 or 8 slot.

HatchMo
04-28-2013, 10:46 PM
Didi is better defensively than Cozart, the question was in the bat.

Red Swagger
04-28-2013, 10:51 PM
I am a Cozart fan and supporter, but Walt should have done EVERYTHING he could to still acquire Sin Shoo Choo WITHOUT giving up Didi Gregorius. The kid is an absolute stud, just turned 23. I think we traded him way to soon, IMHO. I would have called Clev and offered Stubbs/Corcino/Soto for Choo. Having Didi in AAA would be huge, honestly his defense, range, athletic ability and arm are far superior to Cozart's. Didi has also grown up a bit in body size, his bat speed and pitch recognition has increased, plus his power has shown up so far as well. I think Walt is going to regret the trade of Gregorius very soon, he can hit to all fields, gold glove defense and he's just the better overall SS, Arizona found themselves a franchise SS. If you were going to trade him to Arizona, I would have tried this:

Stephenson and Gregorius for Justin Upton (Obviously Towers LOVES Didi)

Then you call Clev and offer:

Stubbs, Corcino and Soto for Choo

Think of our line up:

Choo
Phillips
Votto
Upton
Bruce
Frazier
Mesoraco
Cozart

Old school 1983
04-28-2013, 10:52 PM
I knkw DiDi was ranked defensively higher. Its not like cozart is a hige drop off though. Cozart is solid at the major league level. Very solid. Has turned in some gold glove caliber plays already this year. His bat will come around. Lets not get all worked up over DiDi because of a few games. He may very well have a better career when it's said and done but in context of what the reds are doing right now and who they got for DiDi I think cozart was the best choice for this team.

Old school 1983
04-28-2013, 11:04 PM
I am a Cozart fan and supporter, but Walt should have done EVERYTHING he could to still acquire Sin Shoo Choo WITHOUT giving up Didi Gregorius. The kid is an absolute stud, just turned 23. I think we traded him way to soon, IMHO. I would have called Clev and offered Stubbs/Corcino/Soto for Choo. Having Didi in AAA would be huge, honestly his defense, range, athletic ability and arm are far superior to Cozart's. Didi has also grown up a bit in body size, his bat speed and pitch recognition has increased, plus his power has shown up so far as well. I think Walt is going to regret the trade of Gregorius very soon, he can hit to all fields, gold glove defense and he's just the better overall SS, Arizona found themselves a franchise SS. If you were going to trade him to Arizona, I would have tried this:

Stephenson and Gregorius for Justin Upton (Obviously Towers LOVES Didi)

Then you call Clev and offer:

Stubbs, Corcino and Soto for Choo

Think of our line up:

Choo
Phillips
Votto
Upton
Bruce
Frazier
Mesoraco
Cozart

That's all good. I can see maybe Arizona going for that part of the deal but Cleveland probably thinks they got more with Bauer. Personally I'd have gone all in on upton. I always thought the reds needed a right handed plus bat behind votto more than they ever needed a leadoff guy. I love choo FYI, but at the time we had Phillips who could leadoff although it wouldn't have been ideal as well as cozart who could and our best prospect bats leadoff. Just by having Phillips alone in the one or two spot instead of Stubbs would have raised the obp. Even if Hamilton was up prematurely he wouldn't have to light the world on fire. He'd just have to be better thans Stubbs.

Goose1701
04-29-2013, 07:22 AM
Despite Kevin Tower's hilarious claim of Didi being "The next Derek Jeter", I still don't see him as being much of a loss. His hot start is just small sample size noise that means very little.

Cozart's defense is solid enough in my opinion and he's got more power that Didi.

KC2135
04-30-2013, 12:19 AM
so far Didi has looked solid, but in a very small sample.

RedlegJake
04-30-2013, 09:35 AM
See Didi line at seasons end and compare. My guess is there will be a small difference probably in Ds favor but not enough to regret that trade.

dwyerbrg
05-03-2013, 08:07 AM
I am a Cozart fan and supporter, but Walt should have done EVERYTHING he could to still acquire Sin Shoo Choo WITHOUT giving up Didi Gregorius.

How do we know Walt didn't do everything he could to do that and was told the deal wasn't happening without him? We don't know all of the inner workings of the trade talks, so we don't know that he didn't try at least.

RedlegJake
05-03-2013, 09:14 AM
Given Towers desire to land DiDi I think dwyer is absolutely right. I bet without DiDi there was no deal.

Old school 1983
05-03-2013, 09:30 AM
Given Towers desire to land DiDi I think dwyer is absolutely right. I bet without DiDi there was no deal.

Agreed. Without DiDi I'd be willing to bet the Dbacks don't let Bauer go to Cleveland, and if that doesn't happen the reds don't get Choo.