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Plus Plus
06-07-2013, 12:53 AM
Below are the draft picks for the Cincinnati Reds in 2013. Overall pick is in parentheses. Signed players are in bold, players confirmed to not signing are in italics. Amount signed for will be listed next to signed players.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Cincinnati Reds

2013 Bonus Pool: $6,046,700

2013 Bonus Pool Spending: $5,980,800

2013 Bonus Pool +/-: $65,900 Under Budget

1 (27): Phillip Ervin, OF, Samford $1,812,400 BA Rank #23
1.CB-A (38): Michael Lorenzen, RHP (OF?), Cal St.-Fullerton BA Rank #52 $1,500,000 (Slot $1,470,500)
2. (67): Kevin Franklin, 3B, Gahr HS (CA) BA Rank #232 $675,000 (Slot $832,700)
3. (104): RHP Mark Armstrong, Clarence High School, Clarence, NY (Buffalo area) BA Rank #242 $496,000 (Slot $496,000)
4. (135): RHP Ben Lively out of Central Florida BA Rank #127 $350,000 (Slot $367,900)
5. (165):SS/RHP Cory Thompson from Maudlin HS (SC) BA Rank #121 $376,000 (Slot $275,400)
6. (195): RHP Zack Weiss, UCLA BA Rank #381 $180,000. (Slot $206,200)
7. (225): RHP Tyler Mahle , Westminster HS (CA) BA Rank #281 $250,000 (Slot $160,500)
8. (255): RHP Scott Brattvet, Cal State - Bakersfield (CA) BA Rank #283 $15,000 (Slot $149,900)
9. (285): LHP Chad Jones, No School but formerly from LSU BA Rank#N/R $100,000 (Slot $139,900)
10. (315):RHP Daniel Wright, Arkansas St.BA Rank#N/R $10,000 (Slot $135,300)
11. (345):LHP Ty Boyles Quartz Hill HS (CA) BA Rank#N/R $100,000
12. (375):C Shedric Long, Jacksonville HS (FLA) BA Rank#N/R $100,000
13. (405):RHP Evan Mitchell, Mississippi State (MS) BA Rank#411 $100,000
14. (435):RF Willie Abreu, Mater Academy Charter School (FLA)BA Rank#205
15. (465):C Jarrett Freeland, Parkview HS (GA) BA Rank#N/R $324,500
16. (495):RHP Fabian Roman, Lubbock Christian U, TX BA Rank#N/R
17. (525):CF Michael Carter, Winder Barrow HS (GA) BA Rank#N/R $100,000
18. (555):RHP Joe Mantoni, Merrimack Col (MA) BA Rank#N/R
19. (585):CF Alex Krupa, Greenwood Community HS (IN) BA Rank#N/R
20. (615): C Morgan Lofstrom, Mt Boucherie SS (Canada) BA Rank#N/R $100,000
21. (645):RHP Eric Dorsch, Kent St U (OH) BA Rank#N/R
22. (675):RHP Layne Somsen, South Dakota St U (SD) BA Rank#N/R
23. (705):RF Narciso Crook, Gloucester County Col BA Rank#N/R $100,000
24. (735):RHP Brett Morales, King HS (FL) BA Rank #118
25. (765):RHP Eduardo Garcia, Alexander HS (TX) BA Rank#N/R
26. (795):SS Eli White, Wren HS (SC) BA Rank#N/R
27. (825):C Zack Collins, American Heritage School (FL) BA Rank#113
28. (855):1B Carter Austin, Maine-Endwell HS (NY) BA Rank#N/R
29. (885):CF Alex Greer, Iowa Western CC (IA) BA Rank#N/R
30. (915):3B Taylor Terrasas, Louisiana Tech (LA) BA Rank#N/R
31. (945):CF Andrew Benintendi, Madeira HS (OH) BA Rank#486
32. (975):1B Logan Uxa, Arkansas St U (AR) BA Rank#N/R
33. (1005):RHP Matt Blandino, Wolcott HS (CT) BA Rank#N/R
34. (1035):LHP Luke Bolka, Atlee HS (VA) BA Rank#N/R
35. (1065):LF Conner Simonetti, Fairport HS (NY) BA Rank#N/R
36. (1095):LHP Taylor Hearn, San Jacinto College North (TX) BA Rank#N/R
37. (1125):LHP Alec Byrd, St Thomas Aquinas HS (FL) BA Rank#N/R
38. (1155):RHP Dan Grauer, Liberty U (VA) BA Rank#N/R
39. (1185):SS Manny Cruz, Wolcott HS (CT) BA Rank#N/R
40. (1215):RHP P.J. Cerreto, Ramapo Col (NJ) BA Rank#N/R

Please limit this thread to confirmation of draft picks signing or refusing to sign. While discussion can still take place here, please take discussion of specific prospects or draft rounds/days to other threads to make the news of signings easy to look through so that this list can be up-to-date.

Thank you!

I thought the signings screamed "spreadsheet". So I made one instead of doing some actual work I should be doing.

Besides showing the draft status in shades of green, yellow and red, the sheet will calculate where the Reds stand in relation to the Draft Pool (money they are allowed to spend).

Players signing under budget will display in green, over budget (should that actually happen), in red.


This is from Jaxred.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseuTZh70U-SdEVwZVlEdFVrckU1QzNObGxVYmJJb1E#gid=0

Kc61
06-07-2013, 02:02 AM
Appreciate the thread, suggest we provide the state in which the high schools are located. Gahr High School doesn't mean much unless somebody adds CA to it.

Thanks, look forward to this list containing some future Reds stars.

Plus Plus
06-07-2013, 08:44 AM
I'll do my best- I remember from last year that it got tricky with some of the later guys.

Thanks for the suggestion!

JaxRed
06-08-2013, 01:16 PM
3rd round pick Armstrong says he will sign as soon as eligible after graduation.

http://www.buffalonews.com/20130607/Clarence_x2019_s_Armstrong_Amherst_x2019_s_Heim_ta ken_in_MLB_draft.html

JaxRed
06-08-2013, 01:20 PM
8th round pick Brattvet says he'll sign

http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/sports/college/x776197177/Garces-Sweaney-CSUBs-Brattvet-selected-in-Day-2-of-MLB-draft

Benihana
06-08-2013, 02:14 PM
Buckley said he expects Ervin to sign quickly.

Also re: Armstrong, Thompson and Mahle:


Reds senior director of amateur scouting Chris Buckley said based on conversations with each of the three high school players drafted on Friday, he feels good about the organization's chances of signing them to professional deals.

Also re: Mahle


He is committed to play at UCSB, where his brother, Greg, plays, but Buckley said after talks with all three high school players taken on Friday, he thinks there's a good chance the Reds will be able to sign Mahle.

JaxRed
06-09-2013, 12:32 AM
22nd round Somsen is going to sign

http://www.yankton.net/sports/article_1a6aadba-d072-11e2-aca9-0019bb2963f4.html

dougdirt
06-09-2013, 12:38 AM
22nd round Somsen is going to sign

http://www.yankton.net/sports/article_1a6aadba-d072-11e2-aca9-0019bb2963f4.html

At 24 years old it isn't like he had other options other than moving on from baseball. He is an interesting guy though.

JaxRed
06-09-2013, 12:44 AM
More confirmation of Mahle's intentions

http://www.ocvarsity.com/articles/round-37888-bauers-drafted.html

"Mahle, who had committed to play at UC Santa Barbara, said he expects to sign with the Reds."

JaxRed
06-09-2013, 12:51 AM
This page says 5th round pick Thompson has already signed !!

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20130608/SPORTS/306080021/Draft-call-postpones-Palka-s-tee-time

JaxRed
06-09-2013, 12:55 AM
This indicates that 27th Rounder Collins will not sign and that 14th Rounder Abreu wants $450K and the Reds have offered him 450K!!

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/08/3441431/um-players-have-lengthy-wait-to.html

Cant Touch This
06-09-2013, 10:52 AM
31. (945):CF Andrew Benintendi, Madeira HS (OH)

Shout out to my Alma Mater. Pretty damn cool to get drafted by your hometown squad.

TOBTTReds
06-09-2013, 02:54 PM
Can we make sure they are not bolded until actually confirmed they signed? A lot of kids may want to sign, but doesn't mean they will right now. Bonuses still have to fall in place.

*Great thread...this is always a go to throughout the summer.

JaxRed
06-09-2013, 05:07 PM
I thought the signings screamed "spreadsheet". So I made one instead of doing some actual work I should be doing.

Besides showing the draft status in shades of green, yellow and red, the sheet will calculate where the Reds stand in relation to the Draft Pool (money they are allowed to spend).

Players signing under budget will display in green, over budget (should that actually happen), in red.

If this was a link in the first post of the "Official" thread that would eliminate the need for this thread.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseuTZh70U-SdEVwZVlEdFVrckU1QzNObGxVYmJJb1E&usp=sharing

RedlegJake
06-09-2013, 05:18 PM
Nice....thanks

JaxRed
06-09-2013, 05:53 PM
Marked the known college seniors as expected to sign

Blitz Dorsey
06-09-2013, 06:15 PM
This is always my favorite thread of summer (or at the very least one of my favorites). I love seeing the full list of who we selected coupled with who has signed/has not signed. Thanks to everyone who helps keep this updated. Your efforts are appreciated from other Reds fans.

JaxRed
06-09-2013, 08:37 PM
Marked the spreadsheet as Likley to be signed for Lively. I suspect he's already signed as this article says he is leaving for Arizona Monday

http://www.pnj.com/article/20130608/SPORTS/306080022/MLB-Draft-Ben-Lively-s-dream-fulfilled

JaxRed
06-09-2013, 08:42 PM
Marked the spreadsheet for 12th round pick Shed Long as likely to sign. This article says he is signing today. (June 9th)

http://www.thepiedmontjournal.com/view/full_story/22843995/article-Jacksonville-s-Shed-Long-was-born-to-play-ball--Now-he-ll-do-it-for-the-Reds?instance=sports_top

malcontent
06-10-2013, 05:52 AM
Where they were picked is great, but I'd also like to see their BA rankings by their names....for those of us out here who aren't as knowledgeable on the actual talent level of each player.

I mean, should we really be celebrating when the Brodie Greenes of the world sign?

Edd Roush
06-10-2013, 11:08 AM
Question I should know the answer to:

The Reds' draft pool is $6,046,700 pool. Does this mean the Reds can only spend $6,046,700 on the top 10 picks or do the Reds only have $6,046,700 spend for all their picks?

RedlegJake
06-10-2013, 12:10 PM
If I am correct they have the 6mil for the top ten then 100k per player with any amount over 100k coming off the top 10 money. So 450k would take 350k off the top ten pool.

Plus Plus
06-10-2013, 01:00 PM
For what it's worth, Kevin Franklin's twitter page bio includes "third baseman for the Cincinnati Reds." His tweets make him sound eager to sign.

https://twitter.com/RealKJ44

fearofpopvol1
06-10-2013, 02:29 PM
Where they were picked is great, but I'd also like to see their BA rankings by their names....for those of us out here who aren't as knowledgeable on the actual talent level of each player.

I mean, should we really be celebrating when the Brodie Greenes of the world sign?

I second this if someone has the time to do it. I know it's an undertaking, but it would be great to know.

JaxRed
06-10-2013, 02:32 PM
For what it's worth, Kevin Franklin's twitter page bio includes "third baseman for the Cincinnati Reds." His tweets make him sound eager to sign.

https://twitter.com/RealKJ44

Good enough for me. Marking him as Likely to sign on spreadsheet

Gallen5862
06-10-2013, 03:56 PM
Updated the Info of the BA Rankings onto top post.

fearofpopvol1
06-10-2013, 04:01 PM
Thanks for doing this! However, you've repeated a lot of the ranking numbers. Was that unintentional?

dougdirt
06-10-2013, 04:20 PM
Pretty sure that was far too much content to copy/paste per the site rules.

Also, Phil Ervin has officially signed.

RedLegsToday
06-10-2013, 04:28 PM
Also, Phil Ervin has officially signed.

sweet.:beerme:

HeatherC1212
06-10-2013, 04:37 PM
Glad to see Ervin sign so quickly! I think I saw on Twitter that he was the first 1st rounder to sign with his team. :thumbup:

He should get to play somewhere in our minor leagues this year now, right? I'm not used to the top guy signing this early and I don't know what happens now, LOL :laugh:

dougdirt
06-10-2013, 04:39 PM
Glad to see Ervin sign so quickly! I think I saw on Twitter that he was the first 1st rounder to sign with his team. :thumbup:

He should get to play somewhere in our minor leagues this year now, right? I'm not used to the top guy signing this early and I don't know what happens now, LOL :laugh:

Yes, he will be playing, at the latest, in 10 days when Billings opens up. He may start in Dayton too.

HeatherC1212
06-10-2013, 04:41 PM
Yes, he will be playing, at the latest, in 10 days when Billings opens up. He may start in Dayton too.

Cool. Thanks for the info! :thumbup:

malcontent
06-10-2013, 04:43 PM
Thanks, Gallen5862.

19braves77
06-10-2013, 04:45 PM
The Reds have signed first-round pick Phillip Ervin for the exact slot recommendation of $1,812,400 according to Baseball America's Jim Callis (on Twitter). Ervin is advised by Moye Sports Associates..

Gallen5862
06-10-2013, 05:22 PM
Thanks for doing this! However, you've repeated a lot of the ranking numbers. Was that unintentional?

I went back and checked the numbers on the BA site. The numbers were repeated unintentionally.

Edd Roush
06-10-2013, 06:07 PM
If I am correct they have the 6mil for the top ten then 100k per player with any amount over 100k coming off the top 10 money. So 450k would take 350k off the top ten pool.

Can someone confirm this?

Thanks.

dougdirt
06-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Can someone confirm this?

Thanks.

It is close enough. The Reds pool money is a little over $6M. They can spend whatever they want after round 10, as long as it isn't more than $100,000. Anything over that counts toward their "cap" in its entirety. Everything spent between rounds 1-10 counts toward the cap. A failure to sign a player goes against your "cap" and you lose that money. For example, if you don't sign your #8 round pick and the slot is $160,000, you lose that $160,000 off of your draft cap.

JaxRed
06-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Since we have our first signing with a $ figure associated with it, you can see how the spreadsheet version gives you the remaining money.

fearofpopvol1
06-10-2013, 07:05 PM
I went back and checked the numbers on the BA site. The numbers were repeated unintentionally.

Thanks a million for doing that, it's awesome!!:thumbup:

Gallen5862
06-10-2013, 07:34 PM
Shedrick Long on his Tweeter feed has himself listed as a Catcher in the Reds's organization and told one of his friends who was drafted by the Giants that he would be playing against him.

PuffyPig
06-10-2013, 08:02 PM
I'm betting that out 1A pick will sign for less money in a pre-draft deal, which will give us the money to sign pick #14.

Gallen5862
06-10-2013, 08:30 PM
Cory Thompson on his Twitter said a member of the Reds organization and that its his job now.

lollipopcurve
06-10-2013, 08:42 PM
They'll save on contracts for Weiss and Bratvett for sure, and probably Wright, so that will free up some of that top 10 money for the talented kids with signability issues who came later (Abreu, Morales, Collins and others). I'm wondering if they got Franklin on a below slot deal, too.

klw
06-10-2013, 09:17 PM
Chad Jones spoke with Walt, will report to Arizona.

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2013/06/former_lsu_dual_sport_star_cha.html

klw
06-10-2013, 09:21 PM
Tyler Mahle "expects to sign" with Reds.

http://www.ocvarsity.com/articles/round-37888-bauers-drafted.html

Oops missed that Jaxred already linked this.

Tony Cloninger
06-10-2013, 09:28 PM
For what it's worth, Kevin Franklin's twitter page bio includes "third baseman for the Cincinnati Reds." His tweets make him sound eager to sign.

https://twitter.com/RealKJ44

That was fast. Gary Sheffield please! :D

klw
06-10-2013, 09:52 PM
Ty Boyles tweets he is leaving Tuesday for Arizona for at least two months. He tweets like crazy.


https://mobile.twitter.com/t_boyles26

klw
06-10-2013, 10:05 PM
Looks like Daniel Wright 10th round is in Arizona already. He adds "let pro ball begin"

https://mobile.twitter.com/D_Wright_36

klw
06-10-2013, 10:22 PM
Here is the twitter for 17th rounder Michael Carter- nothing clear cut.

https://mobile.twitter.com/D_Carter08

JaxRed
06-11-2013, 12:37 AM
I made a new category of status on the spreadsheet called "Under Contract?" for all these guys saying they are in Arizona but with no signing announcement.

And I've updated it with the latest info.

REDREAD
06-11-2013, 01:32 AM
I made a new category of status on the spreadsheet called "Under Contract?" for all these guys saying they are in Arizona but with no signing announcement.

And I've updated it with the latest info.

Thanks for putting that spreadsheet together Jax..

Benihana
06-11-2013, 01:04 PM
Sickels says:


Finding some way to sign Morales and Collins would have been possible under the old draft rules, but they're certain to attend college under the new bonus pool set-up.

Seems like Collins is definitely gone but I hope he's somehow wrong about Morales. Not really holding my breath though.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-11-2013, 01:19 PM
Chad Jones spoke with Walt, will report to Arizona.

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2013/06/former_lsu_dual_sport_star_cha.html

Last year, they signed U. Florida Sr. Daniel Pigott (9th, #292) for $40,000, which was $87,000 below slot. I assume they'll do the same with Jones (9th, #295...$139,900 slot) who pretty much has zero leverage. We'll see.

Benihana
06-11-2013, 01:21 PM
Last year, they signed U. Florida Sr. Daniel Pigott (9th, #292) for $40,000, which was $87,000 below slot. I assume they'll do the same with Jones (9th, #295...$139,900 slot) who pretty much has zero leverage. We'll see.

Hopefully they give the extra $100K to Morales, Abreu or Benintendi

BuckeyeRedleg
06-11-2013, 01:38 PM
Hopefully they give the extra $100K to Morales, Abreu or Benintendi


Someone earlier (Jax perhaps) mentioned they heard that 14th rounder Abreu wanted $450,000 and the Reds have offered him that much.

I'm assuming a big chunk of that will come from Jones and possibly Daniel Wright.

Gallen5862
06-11-2013, 02:10 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/which-teams-drafted-the-most-players-from-the-ba-500/

The top 500 deals strictly with quantity but we also have a point value system, which is the fourth number after the team’s name, to account for where the players drafted ranked in the 500. The No. 1 player, Jonathan Gray, received a point value of 500 and the No. 2 ranked player, Mark Appel, received 499 points. Each subsequent player ranked received one less point, down to the No. 500 player, who got one point. The final number is an average of these points. Therefore, a higher number is better. Again, without understanding what drove a team’s average can be misleading. Additionally, this is average is in no way trying to convey that player talent, and therefore value, is linear.

Reds (14 total, 2 top 100, 6 top 200, average: 278)
Phillip Ervin (23), Michael Lorenzen (52), Kevin Franklin (232), Mark Armstrong (242), Ben Lively (127), Cory Thompson (121), Zack Weiss (381), Tyler Mahle (281), Scott Brattvet (283), Evan Mitchell (411), Willie Abreu (205), Brett Morales (118), Zack Collins (113), Andrew Benintendi (486).

Gallen5862
06-11-2013, 02:17 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/what-your-team-did-in-the-draft-national-league-edition/

Cincinnati Reds
Two of the draft’s top college outfielders led the Reds’ class in Phillip Ervin and Michael Lorenzen, both of whom could be legitimate center fielders. Lorenzen, however, may have more upside on the mound, and that’s where the Reds plan to start him out. He closed for Cal State Fullerton and could move quickly with a fastball in the upper 90s. The Reds mixed in projection picks from the high school ranks, with power-hitting third baseman Kevin Franklin (second round) and righthander Mark Armstrong (third). South Carolina prep Cory Thompson drew interest as a pitcher and hitter but was announced as a shortstop. Miami Hurricanes fans will watch this class closely to see if recruits Willie Abreu (11th round) and Zack Collins (27th) sign or come to school.

RED VAN HOT
06-11-2013, 02:44 PM
Someone earlier (Jax perhaps) mentioned they heard that 14th rounder Abreu wanted $450,000 and the Reds have offered him that much.

I'm assuming a big chunk of that will come from Jones and possibly Daniel Wright.

It's hard to see where the additional $350K will come from. Granted, they have some leverage with numbers 8-10, but those are not high dollar amount slots. Need for some of the higher picks to take less than slot. Or, perhaps, someone in the top 10 does not get signed. I'm sure they have a plan, but it is not apparent to me. I suspect that the Reds feel they can lure some of these players with lower amounts than is being reported here.

Benihana
06-11-2013, 02:51 PM
It's hard to see where the additional $350K will come from. Granted, they have some leverage with numbers 8-10, but those are not high dollar amount slots. Need for some of the higher picks to take less than slot. Or, perhaps, someone in the top 10 does not get signed. I'm sure they have a plan, but it is not apparent to me. I suspect that the Reds feel they can lure some of these players with lower amounts than is being reported here.

Franklin seems like an overdraft who is eager to sign, so he could easily take substantially less. I'd guess there's a lot of room in that slot number too, considering its still the 2nd round.

Guessing Lively gets a below slot deal as well in the 4th. With polish and pitchability being his best traits, what's he gonna do, return to Central Florida for another year?

dougdirt
06-11-2013, 02:52 PM
It's hard to see where the additional $350K will come from. Granted, they have some leverage with numbers 8-10, but those are not high dollar amount slots. Need for some of the higher picks to take less than slot. Or, perhaps, someone in the top 10 does not get signed. I'm sure they have a plan, but it is not apparent to me. I suspect that the Reds feel they can lure some of these players with lower amounts than is being reported here.

If someone doesn't sign, you don't just get to keep that money. If they don't sign, you lose their pool money.

Edd Roush
06-11-2013, 03:22 PM
Is Daniel Wright the only college senior we drafted in the top 10 rounds? If so, him and Chad Jones seem to be the only two guys that are locks to sign below slot.

The Franklin pick will look much better if we can sign him well below slot. That could have been the rationale behind the Franklin, Armstrong and Weiss picks. Overdraft them early knowing they will sign below slot and then have third round money left over to sign Morales, Abreu or Benintendi.

RED VAN HOT
06-11-2013, 06:41 PM
If someone doesn't sign, you don't just get to keep that money. If they don't sign, you lose their pool money.

I did not know that. So if a $149K slot player were to sign for $49K, the Reds would have $100K to put against players outside of the top 10. If that slot player did not sign at all, then the Reds would not only lose the player, but also all of the $149K.

JaxRed
06-11-2013, 06:47 PM
Yes to what Doug said.

I'm not marking #28 as Likely To Sign..... but I suspect he will. He doesn't graduate till the 14th, and he can't sign till he graduates.

Here's a video where he talk about his decision. His Twitter account has Reds logo and I think he's doing the interview in a Reds T-Shirt.

My vibe on this is....he's signing.

http://www.wbng.com/sports/Tough-decision-ahead-for-Austin-210892081.html

dougdirt
06-11-2013, 07:10 PM
I did not know that. So if a $149K slot player were to sign for $49K, the Reds would have $100K to put against players outside of the top 10. If that slot player did not sign at all, then the Reds would not only lose the player, but also all of the $149K.

Correct.

klw
06-12-2013, 10:23 AM
Round 16 Fabian Roman
Here is his twitter. Nothing on there for sure.
https://twitter.com/_FabRoman_

His strength coach posted a pic of him in a Reds cap FWIW.
https://twitter.com/CoachGioCSCS/status/344164998240665600/photo/1

And also this:
Coach Gio ‏@CoachGioCSCS 10 Jun

About 2 get my boy @_FabRoman_ right be4 he goes 2 the Natti !! #JERSEYcityBOYS

klw
06-12-2013, 10:29 AM
Ty Boyles tweets he is leaving Tuesday for Arizona for at least two months. He tweets like crazy.


https://mobile.twitter.com/t_boyles26

He added this:
whats_his_face ‏@t_boyles26 11 Jun

But Johnny bench is suppose to be there so it's all good 😍

klw
06-12-2013, 10:40 AM
19th rounder Alex Krupa is a Cub fan?
https://twitter.com/AlexKrupa2


Connor Morris ‏@Connor_Morris4 10h
It can be really depressing to be a cub fan

2 ‏@AlexKrupa2 10h
“@Connor_Morris4: It can be really depressing to be a cub fan” especially when you get drafted from a rival team


2 ‏@AlexKrupa2 8 Jun
I'm a Cincinnati Red. Words can't describe how I feel. #blessed

He also tweeted back on May 31 about going up to Great american for a pre-draft workout.

klw
06-12-2013, 10:44 AM
28th rounder Carter Austin is mulling it over. the article has a few interesting tidbits ont he draft process and scouts.
http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20130609/SPORTS/306090037/Cincinnati-Reds-surprised-Maine-Endwell-s-Carter-Austin-pick


“I hadn’t talked to the Reds in a week or two, and I was kind of nervous about that,” Austin said. “The last day, I was getting depressed, and I didn’t think it would happen... Around the 20th round, I got a call from a scout who asked if I was willing to sign. I said, ‘Yeah, I’m still here,’ and that was kind of exciting. It took another hour and a half for them to find a spot where they could take me.”


Austin has signed a letter of intent to play for Bucknell University this upcoming year, and has not yet decided whether or not to sign with the Reds.

“I’ve definitely discussed it, mostly with my dad,” Austin said. “I’ve talked to my college coach, and he was very supportive... He obviously wants me to play for him. It’s a tough decision, but I want to get everyone’s input and seek out all the information I can.”

“It’s a win-win for him,” Ray said. “It’s a great opportunity to go to Bucknell and to be drafted by the Reds. We have to let it all digest and see where it goes.”

JaxRed
06-12-2013, 12:21 PM
That article is before the video interview.

http://www.wbng.com/sports/Tough-dec...210892081.html

I get the vibe he'll sign

Benihana
06-12-2013, 12:35 PM
The Reds went over slot to sign their fifth-round pick, according to Callis (Twitter link), inking prep shortstop Cory Thompson for $367K (slot was $275K). Callis adds that Thompson is a solid runner with a good glove and some pop in his bat, but he also has a fastball in the low 90s.

klw
06-12-2013, 12:59 PM
That article is before the video interview.

http://www.wbng.com/sports/Tough-dec...210892081.html

I get the vibe he'll sign

Who? Link is dead.

Oh found it elsewhere on the site. Carter Austin.
http://www.wbng.com/sports/Tough-decision-ahead-for-Austin-210892081.html

redsmetz
06-12-2013, 01:06 PM
19th rounder Alex Krupa is a Cub fan?
https://twitter.com/AlexKrupa2

He also tweeted back on May 31 about going up to Great american for a pre-draft workout.

I keep wondering if he's related to Gene Krupa, one of the greatest drummers of all time.

JaxRed
06-12-2013, 01:30 PM
The Reds went over slot to sign their fifth-round pick, according to Callis (Twitter link), inking prep shortstop Cory Thompson for $367K (slot was $275K). Callis adds that Thompson is a solid runner with a good glove and some pop in his bat, but he also has a fastball in the low 90s.

Posted this on spreadsheet. Now you have an example of how someone over slot posts in red.

klw
06-12-2013, 02:23 PM
Logan Uxa's Twitter says he is a "Ball player of the Red's Orginization" (his spelling and apostrophe placement)

https://twitter.com/Logie_Berra15

Billings also sent out this tweet yesterday
Billings Mustangs
@Mustangs
https://twitter.com/Mustangs/status/344519700006465538?p=v

Follow @Reds 2013 @MLBDraft selections - and Arkansas State teammates: RHP @D_Wright_36 (R10), 1B @Logie_Berra15 (R32).

JaxRed
06-12-2013, 03:11 PM
Changed spreadsheet for Uxa

klw
06-12-2013, 03:12 PM
Our hourly update from Ty Boyles:

https://twitter.com/t_boyles26

whats_his_face ‏@t_boyles26 25m
Done with the orthopedic part of my physical

I fully expect him to go on the DL with Carpel Tunnel if he continues to Tweet at his current pace.

JaxRed
06-12-2013, 03:26 PM
OK turning my head to the left and coughing.....

LoganBuck
06-12-2013, 03:32 PM
I keep wondering if he's related to Gene Krupa, one of the greatest drummers of all time.

See I keep thinking Joanna Krupa.

redsmetz
06-12-2013, 03:54 PM
See I keep thinking Joanna Krupa.

A quarter of a century in age difference will do that.

RedlegJake
06-13-2013, 06:23 AM
A quarter of a century in age difference will do that.

Ain't it the truth? My newest grandson was named Maverick...I said "oh you expect him to be a riverboat gambler do you? My d-i-l looked at me quizzically. "Did Ton Cruise gamble in Top Gun" Sheesh...felt even older when she had no clue who James Garner was and never heard of the TV series....same with baseball...guys rave about some guy like BPs defense and I say "you remember Maz?" Remember? Hell they were born 25 years after he played! Of course they don't!

Its like the "players are better today argument...yes athletically that is true...but I guarantee you if you could take a time trip to a game in 1961 you'd notice NO seeming difference watching them play than when you watch guys play today...peer equivalence.

Gallen5862
06-13-2013, 08:47 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America on the draft page said that Ben Lively signed for $350,000 and Daniel Wright signed for $5,000, The Reds are $55,700 Under Budget

Kc61
06-13-2013, 09:10 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America on the draft page said that Ben Lively signed for $350,000 and David Wright signed for $5,000, The Reds are $55,700 Under Budget

The Reds got David Wright? And so cheaply?

Gallen5862
06-13-2013, 09:11 PM
The Reds got David Wright? And so cheaply?

Daniel Wright. Lol

klw
06-13-2013, 09:33 PM
Ty Boyles has a uni.



http://instagram.com/p/ahOkSevaNq/

LoganBuck
06-13-2013, 11:12 PM
Ty Boyles has a uni.



http://instagram.com/p/ahOkSevaNq/

The assigned him 51 because that was the only one big enough for him.

JaxRed
06-13-2013, 11:19 PM
Poor Daniel got hosed.

Spreadsheet updated.

JaxRed
06-14-2013, 03:38 PM
First word on our Canadian draftee, 20th rounder Loftrom. Sounds like he'll sign but not play till Instructional League. Spreadsheet updated

http://trailchampion.com/news/former-nelson-baseball-player-has-aspirations-playing-majors-after-being-picked-cincinnati-draf#.UbtiPPnI6So

klw
06-14-2013, 04:13 PM
Looks like Chad Jones has signed and is camp though his "leg is gnar" per Ty Boyles..

https://twitter.com/t_boyles26

whats_his_face ‏@t_boyles26 1h

His leg is gnar tho

whats_his_face ‏@t_boyles26 1h

And Chad Jones

whats_his_face ‏@t_boyles26 1h

Mark prior is a really cool guy haha

Ty Boyles is such a trainwreck waiting to happen on Twitter. :D

BuckeyeRedleg
06-14-2013, 04:31 PM
Poor Daniel got hosed.

Spreadsheet updated.

Ouch.

Signed for $5,000. Slot was $135,300?

I'm thinking Chad Jones may get similar treatment.

RED VAN HOT
06-14-2013, 05:34 PM
Ouch.

Signed for $5,000. Slot was $135,300?

I'm thinking Chad Jones may get similar treatment.

Daniel had no leverage. Is it possible that the Reds contacted him when it became apparent that he might fall out of the first 10 rounds and offered him this deal for #10, the alternative being no bonus at all in a later round? By doing this the Reds free up slot money to put toward other players and Wright at least gets something. Jones could have a similar agreement.

It would be a good strategy for stretching pool money by over drafting guys that you might have liked in the 12-17 round range who had little negotiating leverage in order to free up enough money to lure at least one other player believed to have a strong college commitment.

klw
06-14-2013, 05:37 PM
Why did Jones have to get drafted anyway? He was previously drafted twice and he is what 3 years out of college. Could he not have just been signed as a free agent?

dougdirt
06-14-2013, 05:46 PM
Why did Jones have to get drafted anyway? He was previously drafted twice and he is what 3 years out of college. Could he not have just been signed as a free agent?

Until you have signed a contract, you are always draft eligible assuming you also fill the requirements of being a resident of the correct place and so on.

In 2011 the Reds drafted a 27-year-old Cuban who played a year of independent ball.

Gallen5862
06-14-2013, 08:55 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

The Reds have signed third-rounder Mark Armstrong, Callis reports (via Twitter). Armstrong, a high school right-hander who had committed to Pitt, signed for exactly his assigned slot value of $496K.

Gallen5862
06-14-2013, 09:03 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America changed Daniel Wright's bonus to $10,000. Mark Armstrong signed for $496,000 and Chad Jones for $100,000

JaxRed
06-14-2013, 09:15 PM
Spreeadsheet udated

Blitz Dorsey
06-15-2013, 04:40 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America changed Daniel Wright's bonus to $10,000. Mark Armstrong signed for $496,000 and Chad Jones for $100,000

Ouch. $10K for a 10th round pick. That's worse than when they gave Pigott (9th round pick) just $40K last year. That's the risk the college seniors run though. I'm sure they're just happy to be playing professional baseball, but the Reds sure aren't afraid to play hardball with the college seniors. They know they have no other option. At least, not a reasonable one.

dougdirt
06-15-2013, 06:31 PM
Ouch. $10K for a 10th round pick. That's worse than when they gave Pigott (9th round pick) just $40K last year. That's the risk the college seniors run though. I'm sure they're just happy to be playing professional baseball, but the Reds sure aren't afraid to play hardball with the college seniors. They know they have no other option. At least, not a reasonable one.

The Reds aren't the only team that does this with seniors. They all do it. It really sucks for those guys.

Gallen5862
06-15-2013, 10:17 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Dalton Carter and Joe Mantoni and Logan Uxa are listed as signed.

Gallen5862
06-15-2013, 10:43 PM
http://northandover.patch.com/articles/merrimack-s-mantoni-drafted-in-18th-round-by-cincinnati-reds

The Merrimack Athletics Male Scholar Athlete of the Year, Mantoni served as the Warriors' primary designated hitter and closer during his impressive senior campaign, one that culminated in a CoSIDA Third-Team Academic All-American selection. The Northbridge, Mass., native also earned Northeast-10 All-Conference Second Team and All-East Region honors.

Mantoni led the Warriors with 36 RBI on 40 hits, adding 15 doubles, a triple and two homers. In late-game relief situations, the senior was equally stellar. Mantoni led the Warriors with eight saves and boasted a 1.61 ERA and 3-0 record in 19 appearances

Blitz Dorsey
06-16-2013, 02:28 AM
The Reds aren't the only team that does this with seniors. They all do it. It really sucks for those guys.

Oh, I know this. Didn't mean to insinuate this is something only the Reds or a few other teams do. Everyone does it as you said.

JaxRed
06-16-2013, 10:12 AM
16th round pick Fabian Roman says he will definitely sign.

http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_story/22892843/article-SCOREBOARD-Roman--Mendez-get-selected-in-MLB-Free-Agent-Amateur-Draft-Former-Marist-star-taken-by-Cincinnati--Weehawken-standout-gets-call-from-Texas-?instance=jim_lead_story_left_column

Spreadsheet updated for all 4 recent updates

JaxRed
06-16-2013, 11:20 AM
26th Rounder unlikely to sign according to Clemson U fan sites

31st rounder Andrew Benintendi will attend Arkansas according to father

35th Rounder Conner Simonetti - would sign in the "right situation". (pre-draft) swent lower than he expected

http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S3059100.shtml?cat=0

fearofpopvol1
06-16-2013, 09:44 PM
Mods, could we do something on the homepage to denote those who are definitely not signing? Maybe italics or something in bold at the end of their information? Might make it easier to follow.

JaxRed
06-16-2013, 11:27 PM
The spreadsheet shows that...... :D

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseuTZh70U-SdEVwZVlEdFVrckU1QzNObGxVYmJJb1E#gid=0:D

klw
06-17-2013, 01:00 PM
Ty changed twitter accounts
https://twitter.com/boyles_ty/

He is finding Arizona to be hot and dull. He is also doing Ask Ty question sessions. He tweets alot and only snippets are interesting from a baseball point of view.

that_kid_Ty ‏@boyles_ty 19h
@myrandaaaaa
absolutely nothing. After training they take us back to the hotel and we are stuck there all day unless someone comes to get u

Gallen5862
06-17-2013, 02:43 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minor...ons-june-6-12/

Cincinnati Reds
Signed: C J.R. Reynolds (NDFA—Ohio), 3B Joe Jocketty (NDFA—Miami-Hamilton (Ohio), OF Corey Wimberly (released by Braves, May 30)

Draft picks signed: RHP Ben Lively (4), RHP Joe Mantoni (18), RHP Daniel Wright (10), 1B Logan Uxa (32), SS Cory Thompson (5), OF Dalton Carter (17), OF Phillip Ervin (1)
The Reds signed a pair of undrafted Ohio college players after the draft who happen to be the progeny of Reds executives. Joe Jocketty, whom the Cubs drafted out of a St. Louis high school in ’09, is the son of GM Walt Jocketty. J.R. Reynolds, who previously attended Cincinnati’s Moeller High, is the son of pro/global scouting director Terry Reynolds.

TOBTTReds
06-17-2013, 02:48 PM
NM

lollipopcurve
06-17-2013, 03:55 PM
Cincinnati Reds
Signed: C J.R. Reynolds (NDFA—Ohio), 3B Joe Jocketty (NDFA—Miami-Hamilton (Ohio),

Really do not like the nepotism. Hopefully these are nothing more than token signings, because these two are not legitimate players.

New Fever
06-17-2013, 05:31 PM
Reds sign 7th round pick Tyler Mahle for $250,000.

https://twitter.com/jimcallisba

JaxRed
06-17-2013, 07:07 PM
Over budget on Mahle. Didn't expect that. Updated the spreadsheet to Signed for all listed on the Billings roster.

Gallen5862
06-17-2013, 09:17 PM
https://twitter.com/Mustangs/status/346666523923988484/photo/1

Billing Roster on Twitter lists Taylor Terrasas, Scott Bratvett, Layne Somson, as signed and on their Roster.

BillDoran
06-18-2013, 01:35 PM
I always found it curious that, to my knowledge, the Reds don't publicly release information on draft signings. I would imagine quick press releases with players and the bonus wouldn't be too onerous; or perhaps even in digest form, a weekly release announcing all the signings of the past seven days.

Anybody have an idea why they don't announce draft signing information?

Gallen5862
06-18-2013, 02:22 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America has Scott Brattvet's signing bonus at $15,000.

klw
06-18-2013, 02:28 PM
Redszone and this thread have been brought to the attention of Ty Boyles. Will he join up?
https://twitter.com/t_boyles26/status/346801725925113856?p=v

@t_boyles26
haha he tweets like crazy pic.twitter.com/GsLHfZwNfo

whats_his_face
‏@t_boyles26

@airbear316 hahahaha true

REDREAD
06-18-2013, 03:11 PM
Really do not like the nepotism. Hopefully these are nothing more than token signings, because these two are not legitimate players.

I dunno.. Just looks like organizational filler. Hard to argue that they are costing a better prospect playing time.

lollipopcurve
06-18-2013, 04:54 PM
I dunno.. Just looks like organizational filler. Hard to argue that they are costing a better prospect playing time.

Neither should get an AB or play an inning in the field. Won't know till they play the games.

RedTeamGo!
06-18-2013, 05:11 PM
Redszone and this thread have been brought to the attention of Ty Boyles. Will he join up?
https://twitter.com/t_boyles26/status/346801725925113856?p=v

@t_boyles26

whats_his_face
‏@t_boyles26

Good stuff.

As a teenage star athlete I would guess he has 1 thing on his mind and redszone ain't it.

I wouldn't be surprised if more people read redszone than we think though. I definitely think Chris Welsh does.

Benihana
06-18-2013, 05:33 PM
IMO the success (probably an overstatement) of this draft class after the 5th round will come down to whether or not we can sign one or both of Abreu/Morales, especially since it appears Benintendi and Collins are definitely not signing.

JaxRed
06-18-2013, 06:15 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America has Scott Brattvet's signing bonus at $15,000.


They saved a lot of money on those last 3 picks.

JaxRed
06-20-2013, 12:22 AM
Apparently Abreu will not be signing with Reds

http://miami.247sports.com/Article/OF-Willie-Abreu-Spurns-Cincinnati-Reds-Headed-to-Miami-135854

Mater Academy outfielder Willie Abreu, a 14th-round draft pick by Cincinnati, has decided he will attend the University of Miami spurning a big offer by the Reds.

malcontent
06-20-2013, 01:03 AM
Apparently Abreu will not be signing with Reds

http://miami.247sports.com/Article/OF-Willie-Abreu-Spurns-Cincinnati-Reds-Headed-to-Miami-135854

Mater Academy outfielder Willie Abreu, a 14th-round draft pick by Cincinnati, has decided he will attend the University of Miami spurning a big offer by the Reds.
Great.

So, is this unexpected?

JaxRed
06-20-2013, 01:13 AM
He asked for $450K and Reds agreed so it was 50/50 I think

Tony Cloninger
06-20-2013, 10:04 AM
He could have always gone back to college with that kind of money.
He must be really good and figures he can get drafted higher and get more?

REDREAD
06-20-2013, 10:24 AM
Great.

So, is this unexpected?

You got to figure if he asked for 450k, and the Reds offered it.. the Reds were pretty confident he would sign. (Otherwise, why negotiate and use a pick on him?) This is a disappointment to me.
I understand, it's part of the draft game. Lots of kids say they will sign, only to go to college. Probably strokes their egos to say the Reds drafted them and offered 450k to sign..

lollipopcurve
06-20-2013, 10:56 AM
I wasn't a big fan of Abreu. I'd rather see them get Morales or Collins. Even the kid Freeland is more interesting to me.

Plus Plus
06-20-2013, 01:21 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/06/reds-to-sign-comp-pick-michael-lorenzen.html


The Reds have agreed to terms with competitive balance pick Michael Lorenzen, MLBTR's Chris Cotillo has learned. The Cal State Fullerton product is advised by the Boras Corporation. He will receive a $1.5MM signing bonus, which is slightly more than the $1,470,500 assigned pick value reported by Baseball America in April.

Edd Roush
06-20-2013, 02:49 PM
I wasn't a big fan of Abreu. I'd rather see them get Morales or Collins. Even the kid Freeland is more interesting to me.

I agree. I would like to see the Reds give whatever is left of the bonus pool to Morales or Collins. I love high upside starting pitchers and catchers.

By my calculation, the Reds have $1,137,300 to sign Franklin, Weiss and whoever goes over the $100,000 cap for non-Top 10 round picks. If the Reds go at slot for Franklin and Weiss, they can only offer $98,400 more to the non-Top 10 round picks. Since Franklin seems like a reach, let's hope the Reds can sign him a few hundred thousand below slot and throw all of that money at Morales or Collins.

If the Reds can sign Franklin, Weiss and one of Morales or Collins, I will be very happy with the Reds signing effort.

Benihana
06-20-2013, 03:20 PM
I agree. I would like to see the Reds give whatever is left of the bonus pool to Morales or Collins. I love high upside starting pitchers and catchers.

By my calculation, the Reds have $1,137,300 to sign Franklin, Weiss and whoever goes over the $100,000 cap for non-Top 10 round picks. If the Reds go at slot for Franklin and Weiss, they can only offer $98,400 more to the non-Top 10 round picks. Since Franklin seems like a reach, let's hope the Reds can sign him a few hundred thousand below slot and throw all of that money at Morales or Collins.

If the Reds can sign Franklin, Weiss and one of Morales or Collins, I will be very happy with the Reds signing effort.

Agree with this but I thought Collins was definitely going to college? If that's indeed the case, I really hope they go all out to sign Morales, even if it means completely foregoing Weiss. Morales has a LOT more upside than Weiss.

I'm disappointed Abreu didn't sign.

JaxRed
06-20-2013, 03:38 PM
I agree. I would like to see the Reds give whatever is left of the bonus pool to Morales or Collins. I love high upside starting pitchers and catchers.

By my calculation, the Reds have $1,137,300 to sign Franklin, Weiss and whoever goes over the $100,000 cap for non-Top 10 round picks. If the Reds go at slot for Franklin and Weiss, they can only offer $98,400 more to the non-Top 10 round picks. Since Franklin seems like a reach, let's hope the Reds can sign him a few hundred thousand below slot and throw all of that money at Morales or Collins.

If the Reds can sign Franklin, Weiss and one of Morales or Collins, I will be very happy with the Reds signing effort.

I've updated the Spreadsheet. It shows a lower number. Just over a million.

Edd Roush
06-20-2013, 03:59 PM
Agree with this but I thought Collins was definitely going to college? If that's indeed the case, I really hope they go all out to sign Morales, even if it means completely foregoing Weiss. Morales has a LOT more upside than Weiss.

I'm disappointed Abreu didn't sign.

The problem is that if the Reds do not sign Weiss, they forefit the entire $206,200 they have in the bonus pool for that pick. Therefore, if the Reds don't sign Weiss, they only have $931,100 to spend on Franklin plus the overages on the non top-10 picks. Therefore, the Reds really should sign Weiss unless he is wanting significantly more than $206,200 to sign.

Edd Roush
06-20-2013, 03:59 PM
I've updated the Spreadsheet. It shows a lower number. Just over a million.

Jax, is Lorenzen getting 1.55 million as you have on the spreadsheet or 1.5 million as http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/06/reds-to-sign-comp-pick-michael-lorenzen.html says?

JaxRed
06-20-2013, 04:02 PM
I'm sure it's 1.5 I misread it. Fixed

klw
06-20-2013, 04:07 PM
Michael Lorenzen ‏@Lorenzen55 4h

California ✈ Cincinnati!
https://twitter.com/Lorenzen55

Benihana
06-20-2013, 04:16 PM
Michael Lorenzen ‏@Lorenzen55 4h

https://twitter.com/Lorenzen55

I like the DH everyday and SP every fifth day.

dougdirt
06-20-2013, 05:21 PM
I like the DH everyday and SP every fifth day.

Never going to happen.

Edd Roush
06-20-2013, 05:33 PM
Never going to happen.

Reading between the lines, what kind of role do you expect Lorenzen to have in 2013?

Benihana
06-20-2013, 05:38 PM
Never going to happen.

Why not?

dougdirt
06-20-2013, 06:00 PM
Why not?

Because if he is starting as a pitcher, he needs the time between the starts for things that aren't batting practice, game action and things like that. You are going to have him throw his side session before a game? Probably not. You aren't sending your starter out there to face live pitching every day, to run the bases. I mean I guess I could be wrong, but I just can't see a team doing it.

dougdirt
06-20-2013, 06:01 PM
Reading between the lines, what kind of role do you expect Lorenzen to have in 2013?

Bullpen.

11larkin11
06-20-2013, 06:47 PM
Bullpen.

Or whatever.

mth123
06-20-2013, 08:23 PM
Bullpen.

Then I hope it's at a higher, fast track, level.

I see Boras is involved. Guess that explains the slight delay. I also wonder if Abreu had any impact. The Reds may have been holding the line at a lower number for Lorenzen to have extra cash to throw at Abreu. Now the Abreu is off the table, they decided to get it done. Signed pretty quickly after Abreu's no deal anouncement.

dougdirt
06-20-2013, 09:11 PM
Then I hope it's at a higher, fast track, level.

I see Boras is involved. Guess that explains the slight delay. I also wonder if Abreu had any impact. The Reds may have been holding the line at a lower number for Lorenzen to have extra cash to throw at Abreu. Now the Abreu is off the table, they decided to get it done. Signed pretty quickly after Abreu's no deal anouncement.

All of that is speculation. Boras may not have had anything to do with it. Abreu could have told the Reds 10 days ago he was going to school, but it just got reported today.

Maybe he stays in the bullpen this year just to get used to pro ball with the look towards perhaps starting next year. There is no need to rush him this year. He wasn't going to help the Reds this season or the first half of next season. If they want to push him fast they can start him in Bakersfield next year and do that in a relief role if they want.

mth123
06-21-2013, 12:11 AM
All of that is speculation. Boras may not have had anything to do with it. Abreu could have told the Reds 10 days ago he was going to school, but it just got reported today.

Maybe he stays in the bullpen this year just to get used to pro ball with the look towards perhaps starting next year. There is no need to rush him this year. He wasn't going to help the Reds this season or the first half of next season. If they want to push him fast they can start him in Bakersfield next year and do that in a relief role if they want.

You're probably right. I'm just looking for as many guys as possible to put in line for a major league spot in front of Logan Ondrusek.

JaxRed
06-21-2013, 06:44 AM
Reminder, this thread was supposed to be for signing info only, not discussion. I've updated the Spreadsheet to indicate some guys as signed based on their presence on the AZL roster

Nathan
06-22-2013, 03:29 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/06/draft-signings-franklin-kozikowski.html


The Reds have locked up second-round choice K.J. Franklin for $675k, which is more than $150k below the slot recommendation, according to a tweet from Baseball America's Jim Callis. The high-school third baseman was a surprise second-rounder given his 232nd overall rank by BA.

JaxRed
06-22-2013, 09:24 PM
Updated spreadsheet for Franklin signing

Blitz Dorsey
06-23-2013, 04:52 PM
Knowing "Da U's" reputation, I'm sure someone in Coral Gables is paying Abreu under the table for him to turn down $450K. He's not good enough to turn down that kind of money to go play for free for three years. C'mon ... this one stinks to high heavens.

dougdirt
06-23-2013, 04:55 PM
Knowing "Da U's" reputation, I'm sure someone in Coral Gables is paying Abreu under the table for him to turn down $450K. He's not good enough to turn down that kind of money to go play for free for three years. C'mon ... this one stinks to high heavens.

It happens every year. And while Miami has a good baseball reputation, I really don't think anyone cares enough to fork out the kind of money needed to make someone turn down that kind of money. This is college baseball, not football. What is a lot more likely is that someone convinced him he can be a first round pick and triple that money in three years if he performs.

Blitz Dorsey
06-23-2013, 04:58 PM
Reminder, this thread was supposed to be for signing info only, not discussion. I've updated the Spreadsheet to indicate some guys as signed based on their presence on the AZL roster

I have a request: Is there any way we can please have both in this thread? Would the group have a problem with that? I love this thread and as long as we don't go overboard with it, I think adding some comments/opinions when guys sign or when they don't just adds to the thread. Or talking about how much guys sign for, things like that. I love it for some reason. I realize we could create a separate thread for discussion, but I don't see the harm in streamlining the process and keeping all 2013 draft pick signing updates and discussion in this thread.

Also, the first post of this thread serves as a great "update" because it's constantly showing who has signed, what they signed for, etc.

Thanks for taking this under consideration. Perhaps we can vote on it to see what the group thinks? Having two threads seems like overkill. Let's keep it all here! Pretty please with sugar on top? Ha.

Blitz Dorsey
06-23-2013, 05:01 PM
It happens every year. And while Miami has a good baseball reputation, I really don't think anyone cares enough to fork out the kind of money needed to make someone turn down that kind of money. This is college baseball, not football. What is a lot more likely is that someone convinced him he can be a first round pick and triple that money in three years if he performs.

It's different down there. They take their college baseball very seriously. You're right, not to the point of football, but it's not as far off as one might think. There are definitely plenty of big-money boosters who care about baseball. And don't forget Miami is also (allegedly) the dirtiest program in college baseball PED-wise. The guy that hooked A-Rod, Braun, Grandal, etc up has been hooking "Da U" players up for the last several years.

Benihana
06-23-2013, 11:48 PM
I really hope they offer Morales at least $400K to sign. You can then just offer the balance (~60k or so) to Weiss as a take it or leave it proposition. He's very unlikely to make more than that in next year's draft as a college senior anyway.

PepperJack
06-25-2013, 10:56 PM
Morales seems very unlikely.

https://twitter.com/brett_morales34

PepperJack
06-25-2013, 10:58 PM
Abreu's last tweet is a bit odd.
https://twitter.com/willieabreu5

LoganBuck
06-26-2013, 12:10 AM
Abreu's last tweet is a bit odd.
https://twitter.com/willieabreu5

His most recent one can be viewed as even more cryptic. Hmmm....

Gallen5862
06-26-2013, 12:12 AM
Maybe the Reds increased their offer to Abreu?

PepperJack
06-26-2013, 12:42 AM
Morgan Lofstrom says he is likely to sign.

http://www.kelownacapnews.com/sports/212372021.html

Gallen5862
06-28-2013, 05:49 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/krook-wont-sign-with-marlins/

Krook Won’t Sign With Marlins

A postdraft physical exam of Marlins supplemental first-round pick Matt Krook raised issues that the two sides have been unable to resolve. As a result, sources familiar with the negotiations say that Krook will decline the opportunity to turn pro and instead will attend the University of Oregon in the fall.

Per MLB rules, Krook would become a free agent and Miami would lose its compensation pick for not signing him (No. 36 in the 2014 draft) if the club didn’t offer him at least 40 percent of the assigned value for his selection. The allotment for the No. 35 choice is $1,587,700. Sources said the Marlins will meet the 40 percent threshhold ($635,080) to recoup the draft pick.

JaxRed
06-29-2013, 07:09 PM
Lorenzen shows up on Arizona roster now.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2013, 11:14 AM
Lorenzen shows up on Arizona roster now.

Wow, not Billings? For a college player drafted in the supplemental first round? This is highly unusual.

Maybe they just want to see him for a game or three with the AZL Reds before promoting him to Billings? Very strange.

JaxRed
06-30-2013, 11:21 AM
And it might be just an "admin" thing. Need to clear a spot at Billings first. We'll see.

dougdirt
06-30-2013, 01:38 PM
And it might be just an "admin" thing. Need to clear a spot at Billings first. We'll see.

That and maybe they want to give him a tune up before throwing him to the wolves, so to speak. He has been off for a few weeks now, while most of the guys in Billings have been doing baseball activities for 3 weeks now and playing games for two weeks.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2013, 01:41 PM
That and maybe they want to give him a tune up before throwing him to the wolves, so to speak. He has been off for a few weeks now, while most of the guys in Billings have been doing baseball activities for 3 weeks now and playing games for two weeks.

Hey, I realize the Pioneer League is no joke, but I would hope a 3-year college player who was just selected in the supplemental first round would not consider going to high-rookie ball "being thrown to the wolves." We're not talking about starting him at Dayton.

I bet (hope?) Jax is right and this is merely an admin thing while they clear a roster spot at Billings. Or maybe they'll let him play a game or 3 with the AZL Reds before the promotion.

dougdirt
06-30-2013, 01:45 PM
Hey, I realize the Pioneer League is no joke, but I would hope a 3-year college player who was just selected in the supplemental first round would not consider going to high-rookie ball "being thrown to the wolves." We're not talking about starting him at Dayton.

I bet (hope?) Jax is right and this is merely an admin thing while they clear a roster spot at Billings. Or maybe they'll let him play a game or 3 with the AZL Reds before the promotion.
The thrown to the wolves thing was merely just a saying. He probably could use a warm up, even if he never appears in a game for the AZL Reds, he can be on that roster and not take a spot from someone while he gets some work in for a week and gets back into a baseball routine. Where as if they sent him directly to Billings, he was taking a roster spot of someone and wouldn't have been able to be "up to speed" so to speak right out of the gate. If he pitches this year, and I don't think anyone doubts he will, he will be in Billings rather quickly.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2013, 01:45 PM
Abreu's last tweet is a bit odd.
https://twitter.com/willieabreu5

"Purely a financial decision" eh? So, either the Reds upped their offer, or there is a neuvo-Nevin Shapiro out there who is giving "Da U" players cash under the table.

Kidding. Just slightly though. There is certainly the chance that Abreu was referring to hoping to be a first-round pick 3 years from now when he said it's a "financial decision." But I sure hope he means that the Reds upped their offer and he will sign with them.

Skeptical though.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2013, 01:47 PM
The thrown to the wolves thing was merely just a saying. He probably could use a warm up, even if he never appears in a game for the AZL Reds, he can be on that roster and not take a spot from someone while he gets some work in for a week and gets back into a baseball routine. Where as if they sent him directly to Billings, he was taking a roster spot of someone and wouldn't have been able to be "up to speed" so to speak right out of the gate. If he pitches this year, and I don't think anyone doubts he will, he will be in Billings rather quickly.

And the plan is to let him do both, right? Pitch and play OF/bat? What are your thoughts on that?

dougdirt
06-30-2013, 01:53 PM
And the plan is to let him do both, right? Pitch and play OF/bat? What are your thoughts on that?

The plan this year it for him to pitch. Which I believe is the actual plan, but they had to tell him he could hit in order to sign him. They will probably send him to instructs and let him do both and try to convince him there to work as a pitcher.

Letting guys do both hasn't exactly worked out well and has delayed the timeline for plenty of guys. It is a bad idea and I doubt that teams really like the idea of it, but every so often have to tell someone they can do it while the team tries to figure out a way to get them to do whichever one they prefer.

klw
07-01-2013, 06:41 PM
Evan Mitchell is signing
http://blogs.clarionledger.com/msu/2013/07/01/baseball-news-and-notes-reas-big-fish-norris-mitchell-moving-on/

In Major League Baseball news Evan Mitchell announced on Twitter, after three years at Mississippi State, he is moving on and will sign win the Cincinnati Reds.
The junior will forgo his senior season, which saw him appear in nine games — seven starts. He compiled a 0-1 record with a 3.74 ERA. The Reds selected him in the 13th round of this year’s MLB draft.

https://twitter.com/E_Mitchell51
Evan Renick Mitchell ‏@E_Mitchell51 30 Jun

Big thanks to everyone for the love shown to me the past 3 years at MSU! Ill never forget it but now it's on to chase my dream w/ the Reds!
Miss State Baseball ‏@MsStateBaseball 30 Jun

@E_Mitchell51 Thanks Evan, good luck!

lollipopcurve
07-01-2013, 07:33 PM
Evan Mitchell is signing

Big arm. Hopefully they can help him harness it.

kootenays
07-02-2013, 10:19 AM
Morgan Lofstrom says he is likely to sign.

Morgan Lofstrom signed this morning in Toronto for the 2014 season.:) He will still be playing for Canada's Junior National Team in New England, Australia, and Taiwan, before going to Arizona in September.

Here is an earlier story:
http://thenelsondaily.com/news/former-nelson-baseball-player-has-aspirations-playing-majors-after-being-picked-cincinnati-draf#.UdLS8fnVBPU

JaxRed
07-02-2013, 05:33 PM
Big arm. Hopefully they can help him harness it.

Spreadsheet updated

Gallen5862
07-02-2013, 05:40 PM
Baseball America has Zack Weiss listed as signed for $180,000.

JaxRed
07-02-2013, 05:44 PM
Baseball America has Zack Weiss listed as signed for $180,000.

So I updated the spreadsheet (again) and that makes it so Reds only have $282K left. I don't think Abreu is signing

Gallen5862
07-02-2013, 05:45 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft....php?team=1005

Cincinnati Reds

2013 Bonus Pool: $6,046,700

2013 Bonus Pool Spending: $5,756,300

2013 Bonus Pool +/-: $290,400 Under Budget

Gallen5862
07-02-2013, 05:54 PM
Baseball America has Evan Mitchell signed for $100,000.

Kc61
07-02-2013, 05:55 PM
So if the Reds have just under $300,000 left, what does that get them? Any ideas how it might be spent?

Plus Plus
07-02-2013, 06:09 PM
So I updated the spreadsheet (again) and that makes it so Reds only have $282K left. I don't think Abreu is signing

Can't the Reds exceed the cap by 5% and not suffer a penalty?

That would give them like another 300k or something beyond 282k to spend, if my rough math is correct.

RED VAN HOT
07-02-2013, 06:23 PM
So I updated the spreadsheet (again) and that makes it so Reds only have $282K left. I don't think Abreu is signing

Perhaps, not. I noticed that the Reds were heavy into LH batters with power potential, Abreu, Freeland, Krupa, Lofstrom, Collins, even Benintendi to a lesser extent. They seem to like that for GAB (carry to RCF?). My guess is that they get at least one, and perhaps two from that list.

Ironically, IMO, it is the weakness of RH hitting that has hurt them on the road against good teams.

dougdirt
07-02-2013, 06:33 PM
The Reds can offer just over $692,000 to a player at this point (and pay another $220,000 and change as a fine) without losing a draft pick.

fearofpopvol1
07-02-2013, 06:48 PM
The Reds can offer just over $692,000 to a player at this point (and pay another $500,000 and change as a fine) without losing a draft pick.

Interesting. Is that 1 player or could that be used towards multiple players?

dougdirt
07-02-2013, 06:50 PM
Interesting. Is that 1 player or could that be used towards multiple players?

Anything spent over $100,000 counts toward the pool. So if they spread the money around, they only have $592,000 "extra" dollars to spend between all of those players.

JaxRed
07-02-2013, 07:09 PM
Willie Abreu deleted those tweets

PepperJack
07-02-2013, 07:20 PM
Willie Abreu deleted those tweets


I didn't see which tweets got deleted, but his most recent retweet is a congtats on being drafted from June 8th.


The one I posted about from the 25th of this being financial is still there. But again I missed whatever was deleted.


So I don't know if they made him sound more or less likely to sign.

klw
07-02-2013, 08:50 PM
Willie Abreu deleted those tweets
No he didn't delete them. He retweeted the older congrats tweet and it appears out of order at the top- like a sticky thread does.

JaxRed
07-03-2013, 03:21 PM
Damn you Twitter..... made me look foolish

JaxRed
07-03-2013, 03:24 PM
Saw a new name at AZL Reds: JR Reynolds 23yo catcher from Ohio. Hitting .500 in limited duty.

Was a FA signing... Oops saw he was mentioned earlier.

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/070213aaa.html

JaxRed
07-04-2013, 10:54 AM
Marked Alex Krupa as unlikely to sign based on

http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/local_story/Dream-Delayed_1372646785/

Marked Connor Simonetti as Unlikely to sign

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20130702/SPORTS08/307020062/Conner-Simonetti-headed-Kent-State

39th Rounder Manny Cruz may sign

http://www.tristatebaseballct.com/wordpress/

RED VAN HOT
07-04-2013, 03:27 PM
By my calculation the Reds are lagging the field with only 20 or 41 signed to date. By contrast, the Cardinals have signed 37 or 41. Hopefully, the Reds are going down to the wire with a handful of players that they are targeting.

dougdirt
07-04-2013, 04:03 PM
By my calculation the Reds are lagging the field with only 20 or 41 signed to date. By contrast, the Cardinals have signed 37 or 41. Hopefully, the Reds are going down to the wire with a handful of players that they are targeting.

37 of 41 is unheard of. They made it a full on plan to draft guys they were certain to sign.

PepperJack
07-04-2013, 09:12 PM
Jarrett Freeland's twitter says he has signed.

https://twitter.com/J_Free17


P.S. Nice pull on the prom date.

PepperJack
07-04-2013, 09:23 PM
Whoever this guy is:https://twitter.com/KevMaloney33


Says Narciso Crook agreed to a deal, and will report to Arizona next Tuesday.

dougdirt
07-04-2013, 09:24 PM
Whoever this guy is:https://twitter.com/KevMaloney33


Says Narciso Crook agreed to a deal, and will report to Arizona next Tuesday.

He writes for the Times of Trenton (NJ).

JaxRed
07-04-2013, 09:35 PM
Updated Spreadhsheet for new signings !!

BigREDSfaninKY
07-05-2013, 01:51 AM
What is a typical # of signings in a draft class for the Reds usually consist?

dougdirt
07-05-2013, 02:17 AM
What is a typical # of signings in a draft class for the Reds usually consist?

Well, this is only the second year of only 40 rounds. There used to be 50 rounds. Last year the Reds signed 30 players out of 42 picks.

mth123
07-05-2013, 02:31 AM
By my calculation the Reds are lagging the field with only 20 or 41 signed to date. By contrast, the Cardinals have signed 37 or 41. Hopefully, the Reds are going down to the wire with a handful of players that they are targeting.

But they've signed 21 of their top 24 picks (in 23 rounds). Late round picks are longshots to either 1.) sign or 2.) stick. They are doing fine IMO.

Edd Roush
07-05-2013, 11:48 AM
FYI the deadline for amateur draft picks to sign, except for players who have exhausted college baseball eligibility is next Friday, July 12. I would love to see Collins, Morales and/or Abreu sign.

RED VAN HOT
07-05-2013, 04:40 PM
But they've signed 21 of their top 24 picks (in 23 rounds). Late round picks are longshots to either 1.) sign or 2.) stick. They are doing fine IMO.

How they are doing depends on what their draft strategy is. I could be wrong, but it appears to me that the Reds are putting more emphasis on Latin players in the last few years. Thus, there is less need to sign the lower round, long shots to fill out minor league rosters. If I am right, then the Reds are opting for quality over quantity in the draft. They hoped to save enough pool money to lure one or two players away from college commitments. Since we don't know what is happening with negotiations, your guess is as good as mine as to how many the Reds will sign. My hunch is that the Reds will use all of their pool money and will end up with 27-30 signed.

As Doug pointed out, the Cardinals appeared to have a different strategy in drafting players that they felt certain would sign without need for a heavy financial incentive.

PepperJack
07-05-2013, 05:25 PM
Marked Alex Krupa as unlikely to sign based on

http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/local_story/Dream-Delayed_1372646785/

Marked Connor Simonetti as Unlikely to sign

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20130702/SPORTS08/307020062/Conner-Simonetti-headed-Kent-State

39th Rounder Manny Cruz may sign

http://www.tristatebaseballct.com/wordpress/



Looks like Manny Cruz will be going to college.
https://twitter.com/TheRealJaffman

kootenays
07-06-2013, 01:52 AM
Morgan Lofstrom announced his signing on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/Morganlofstrom/status/352105674324459520

He talks about the draft in this phone interview:
http://www.ryanwatters.ca/morgan-lofstrom-drafted-by-reds/

JaxRed
07-06-2013, 12:36 PM
Updated Spreadsheet for both

mth123
07-06-2013, 03:18 PM
Abreu still a possibility?




Likewise, with their available funds, Callis tweets that the Reds appear to be targeting 14th-round choice Willie Abreu. The University of Miami commit reportedly has a power bat and arm.


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/draft-and-international-notes-jays-cubs-red-sox-others.html

According to the Link, the Reds could offer $390,400 under their limit. They could go to $692,735 w/o a draft pick penalty.

PepperJack
07-09-2013, 10:58 AM
Looks like Alex Greer has signed. Turning down his Illinois commitment.

https://twitter.com/PBglimbeck

Benihana
07-09-2013, 02:24 PM
Abreu still a possibility?



http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/draft-and-international-notes-jays-cubs-red-sox-others.html

According to the Link, the Reds could offer $390,400 under their limit. They could go to $692,735 w/o a draft pick penalty.

Really hope they can sign Abreu this week.

An OF of Abreu, Reynoso and Rosa could be fun to watch next year in Dayton.

Edd Roush
07-09-2013, 03:26 PM
Looks like Alex Greer has signed. Turning down his Illinois commitment.

https://twitter.com/PBglimbeck

Any way/idea if Greer signed over slot?

Gallen5862
07-10-2013, 09:58 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America has Jarrett Freeland signing for $325,000.

mdccclxix
07-10-2013, 10:49 PM
Freeland is 6-7, 210 lbs?

Benihana
07-10-2013, 11:24 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America has Jarrett Freeland signing for $325,000.

There goes Abreu I guess. Oh well

klw
07-10-2013, 11:49 PM
Carter Austin chooses Bucknell over the Reds.
http://www.wbng.com/sports/Austin-chooses-Bucknell-213924401.html?vid=a


Town of Union, NY (WBNG Binghamton) A Maine-Endwell graduate, who was drafted by the Cincinnati Reds, will pass up the opportunity and go to college.
Carter Austin tells Action Sports, after meeting with the Red representatives on Sunday, he has decided to use his full scholarship and play baseball at Bucknell University.
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Austin says the Reds offered a great opportunity, but in the end, he decided to go to school.
He will play there for the next 3 seasons before entering the draft again.

New Fever
07-11-2013, 12:09 AM
There goes Abreu I guess. Oh well

They still can offer him $450,000.

redsmetz
07-11-2013, 09:25 AM
FYI the deadline for amateur draft picks to sign, except for players who have exhausted college baseball eligibility is next Friday, July 12. I would love to see Collins, Morales and/or Abreu sign.

Does anyone know what college players still haven't sign who no longer have eligibility? Not sure why they'd hold out so long, except perhaps, to see if there's any additional money left to sign for.

PepperJack
07-11-2013, 11:01 AM
Does anyone know what college players still haven't sign who no longer have eligibility? Not sure why they'd hold out so long, except perhaps, to see if there's any additional money left to sign for.



The only college player I can find anything about his PJ Cerreto, who had TJ surgery. So maybe they are just seeing how his rehab turns out?

klw
07-11-2013, 12:24 PM
The only college player I can find anything about his PJ Cerreto, who had TJ surgery. So maybe they are just seeing how his rehab turns out?

Here is his Twitter though he doesn't post much.
https://twitter.com/PJCerreto

PJ Cerreto ‏@PJCerreto 13 Jun
Hard cast off. Start rehab tomorrow #tommyjohn pic.twitter.com/SyH5LcuJQB
https://twitter.com/PJCerreto/status/345274499433889795/photo/1

Gallen5862
07-11-2013, 03:10 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Narciso Crook is listed as signed for $100,000 by Baseball America. Alex Greer is also listed as signed.

JaxRed
07-11-2013, 04:09 PM
I'll mark sheet for Crook etc, when I get home. It seems to me that Cerreto will sign. My undertanding is that if you are not going to pitch you can live with no ligament in the elbow so he must be planing on picthing.

klw
07-12-2013, 10:20 AM
35th rounder Connor Simmonetti will be going to school instead of signing.
http://blogs.democratandchronicle.com/varsityvoices/?p=9005


Make no mistake, Conner Simonetti was excited to be selected by the Cincinnati Reds in the most recent Major League Baseball draft.

The Fairport graduate, who played first base for the Red Raiders, called his selection in the 35th round a “blessing.”

Simonetti said that he turned down a contract offer from the Reds on Tuesday however, and it probably was no surprise.

When the two-time Democrat and Chronicle All-Greater Rochester Team selection added up the dollar figures of the contract offer and the value he places on education, a combination athletic and academic scholarship to Kent State University in Ohio seemed to be a better proposal.

Simonetti was on the Kent State campus last week for orientation, and met new baseball coach Jeff Duncan.

“They said that I was drafted too low for my talent-level,” Simonetti said. “I don’t think they were too worried at all (that I would sign with the Reds).

“Everyone in my recruiting class (at Kent State) didn’t sign, so they think they may have one of their best classes ever.”

klw
07-12-2013, 10:30 AM
38th rounder Danny Grauer's twitter
https://twitter.com/dgrauer20
No news but he did seem excited to be drafted. Looks like he just finished a summer tournament.
He also tweeted this though some of his posts make me think he may be a Cubs fan.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BO1YcdqCUAANwkH.jpg:large

CTFan
07-13-2013, 10:48 PM
33rd round pick Matt Blandino is going to CCSU:

http://bristolpress.com/articles/2013/07/13/sports/doc51e0bfa5c928c397684087.txt

PepperJack
07-14-2013, 04:06 AM
PJ Cerreto is official:https://twitter.com/PJCerreto/status/356103656547962880/photo/1

JaxRed
07-14-2013, 09:22 PM
Made (probable) last update to Spreadsheet, marking the 'Unlikelys and No Words to Did Not Sign

Gallen5862
07-16-2013, 09:28 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1005

Baseball America has changed Jarrett Freeland signing bonus from $325,000 to $324,500.

fearofpopvol1
07-23-2013, 01:26 PM
i think we can unsticky this thread?

JaxRed
07-23-2013, 01:29 PM
And the one about 2013 draft pool numbers

mace
07-23-2013, 04:51 PM
FWIW, I kind of like it stickied. A handy reference when a prospect gets your attention and you want to check the round when he was drafted. No biggie, though.

Blitz Dorsey
08-02-2013, 07:09 PM
Bump.

(This is the best thread on this forum, IMO. Can we get this re-pinned mods? Thanks.)