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19braves77
06-21-2013, 02:29 AM
With the finale this Sunday I was wondering how everyone thinks this show is going to end. This season started off slow but the last 4 episodes have been great.

WMR
06-21-2013, 04:49 AM
Mad Men? :lol:

This is season finale, not series.

R_Webb18
06-22-2013, 01:14 PM
1 more season

Tony Cloninger
06-22-2013, 01:33 PM
How are they going to wrap a show up in 1 more season of 15? episodes...if that....from 1968 into ? I read where the creator will show Draper as he is nearing the end. Unless the end is at 45 with a cocktail in one hand and a new secretary on the other.

R_Webb18
06-22-2013, 01:42 PM
im not sure how they will do it but I'm almost certain there is 1 more season.

Brutus
06-22-2013, 03:01 PM
There is one more season.

I personally have been a bit disappointed with the last two seasons of Mad Men. The show got a little boring when Draper stopped caring about the business and Sterling was in his angry phase. That's good character development, but the problem is that after they broke off, they never had a strong supporting cast to pick up the slack. Ginsberg could have been an amazing character if one thinks back to his interview. But since then, they've made him out to be a dark, irritable annoyance when he could have been a tremendous asset as comedic relief.

While Draper and Sterling both have regained a little bit of their original edge, and the merger story arc has helped the show a little bit, the show needs to find an edge again IMHO.

I do think Draper winds up re-marrying Betty when all is said and done. It feels like they've continually teased that on again and off again for the last three seasons.

NebraskaRed
06-22-2013, 07:52 PM
I predict that someone's going to drink. Someone will cheat on their spouse. Someone will shut their office door. Someone will face an existential crisis.

RBA
06-22-2013, 09:03 PM
I would like the series to end with Don is caught with another woman by his new wife: Mary Richards and it shows Mary driving off to Minneapolis with a still smoking gun in the passenger seat of her Mustang.

R_Webb18
06-22-2013, 09:44 PM
I think season 5 was great and this season started off bad to me but last 4-5 episodes I've loved.

I don't think Don and Betty will ever get back together.

19braves77
06-23-2013, 01:12 AM
Typing error about finale. I know there is another season.

The feeling I get from this season starting with the first episode is they are telling the story backwards and it picks up in real time with the strange girl from the bar. I think that's the end of Dons 2nd marriage.

NebraskaRed
06-23-2013, 03:56 PM
I think season 5 was great and this season started off bad to me but last 4-5 episodes I've loved.

I don't think Don and Betty will ever get back together.

I thought this season started out great, kind of dipped in the middle, and became really good again in these last few episodes.

gilpdawg
06-24-2013, 02:08 AM
So..... thoughts on the finale? I thought it was great. Don's rock bottom will lead to his possible redemption.

Razor Shines
06-24-2013, 02:12 AM
That was my favorite episode of the season and one of my favorites of the series.

Brutus
06-24-2013, 02:39 AM
That was my favorite episode of the season and one of my favorites of the series.

I thought it was a sensational episode too. I think it was my favorite, at least in the last 2-3 seasons.

Chip R
06-24-2013, 10:06 AM
So..... thoughts on the finale? I thought it was great. Don's rock bottom will lead to his possible redemption.

Who knows. Weiner is a Sopranos alum and that show preached that how many life changing experiences you go through, people don't change. As many experiences Don has gone through - including a near-death one this year - he really hasn't changed.

R_Webb18
06-24-2013, 11:02 AM
yea I'm gonna guess Don doesn't turn into some type of hero.

19braves77
06-24-2013, 01:01 PM
I don't need a redemption story. I just wanted him to realize that he wasn't perfect and look at what being honest for the first time in his life got him, relief.

19braves77
06-24-2013, 07:59 PM
Couple of things that make madmen cool that you may have missed last night

This was the first episode where no one was seen smoking. Matt Weiner says thats important.

Hershey was the most coveted business account in 1968 behind Chevy in 1968. Ogilvy & Mather is who got there business and it lasted 30 plus years. It was Ogilvy & Mather first major account.

The last screen shot of Peggy is the same screen shot we saw the first time Don Draper was in his office. Its also the same shot on the cover art of Madmen.

wolfboy
06-25-2013, 11:33 AM
Who knows. Weiner is a Sopranos alum and that show preached that how many life changing experiences you go through, people don't change. As many experiences Don has gone through - including a near-death one this year - he really hasn't changed.

Good observation, but what does that really mean for this show? Which Don is the Don that doesn't change? the kid who grew up in the *****house? the scared/cowardly soldier? the laid back Dick Whitman we saw in California? the eager fur coat salesman? the self-interested creative director of a New York ad agency?

Chip R
06-25-2013, 01:27 PM
Good observation, but what does that really mean for this show? Which Don is the Don that doesn't change? the kid who grew up in the *****house? the scared/cowardly soldier? the laid back Dick Whitman we saw in California? the eager fur coat salesman? the self-interested creative director of a New York ad agency?

One could say they are all the same person. Take little Dick Whitman for instance. He lost his virginity to a hooker who had a beauty mark on her face and mothered him back to health. Flash forward to the late 50s where he did the oatmeal ad where the mother had a beauty mark on her face. Go forward several more years and he has an affair with Sylvia who has that beauty mark on her face and is a mother.

The scared/cowardly soldier? Don's first instinct when things go off the rails for him is to either run and/or creates something new out of the ashes. When Pete told him he know he was really Dick Whitman, his first instinct was to run away with Rachel Menken. She realized that he was a coward and dumped him. The Brits plan to sell Sterling-Cooper to McCann-Erickson, Don runs from that - which was a pretty brave thing - and creates a new agency. Don can't get Chevy so he merges with CGC to create another agency.

Laid-back Dick? We still see it from time to time. It's usually when he goes out to California.

The eager fur-coat salesman? We see that most every time he's pitching an ad to a client or potential client. Or we see it when he gets involved with a woman.

Self interested creative director? We saw that in spades all season. One could say that every time he does something big, it's in his interests only. They may turn out for the best but he doesn't do it for anyone but himself. He and the rest of Sterling-Cooper would have been fine working for Duck but Don - and to a lesser extent, Duck himself - blew that up. He would have been fine working for McCann-Erickson but he thought he would be better off starting another agency. Not anyone else but himself. The merger, the firing of Jaguar, trying to move out to California, having the Hershey account go up in flames, showing up at the office and meetings wherever and whenever he feels like it. Almost everything he does is in his own self-interest.

As for what's going to happen next season, only Weiner knows. I could see them fast forward in the last episode ala Six Feet Under and show Don through the years until he dies in the 80s or 90s but that would be a blatant rip-off of SFU and I think Weiner would want to put his own stamp on the series. If I were a betting man, I would say that the last we see of Don will be similar to what we saw of Don in the first episode but perhaps some of his foibles will be muted somewhat.

19braves77
06-25-2013, 03:33 PM
I am guessing they jump ahead to 1971. 71 is a very interesting year in advertising and business in general.

WMR
06-26-2013, 01:53 PM
This season was a bit of a waste, IMO. They should have had the final episode occur more towards the midway point.

Roy Tucker
07-02-2013, 11:42 PM
I've always thought the opening credit falling man was an omen.

Raisor
07-04-2013, 06:20 PM
I've never seen the show (I will I promise). I've been a big fan of Elizabeth Moss since she was on the west wing. I assume she's awesome?

top6
07-04-2013, 07:11 PM
I've never seen the show (I will I promise). I've been a big fan of Elizabeth Moss since she was on the west wing. I assume she's awesome?

Yes, she is amazing.