View Full Version : Louisville Basketball Scandal---- are the cardinals about to be cooked?
The University of Louisville is investigating allegations made in a new book that a former men's basketball staff member paid escorts to dance and have sex with players and recruits, according to Yahoo! Sports, which has obtained an advanced copy of the book.
http://www.wave3.com/story/30174416/uofl-investigating-books-sexual-allegations-involving-basketball-team
The book alleges that over a four-year period, Powell brought women into Billy Minardi Hall – the basketball dormitory on the Louisville campus that is named after Pitino’s late brother-in-law – through a side door to entertain players and recruits. Powell also says her dancers – which included her daughters – also entertained Louisville players at other locations off campus. After the women danced for the players for an agreed-upon sum, Powell alleges that she would negotiate a second payment for the women to have sex with the athletes.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/new-book-makes-damaging-sexual-allegations-involving-louisville-basketball-202333537.html
Boston Red
10-02-2015, 06:01 PM
I love that he daughters were involved. Good to have a family business!
Assembly Hall
10-02-2015, 06:36 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!!
http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Now-Comes-The-Part-Where-We-Throw-Our-Heads-Back-In-Laughter-In-George-Of-The-Jungle.gif
Assembly Hall
10-02-2015, 06:48 PM
Oh Ricky you're so fine...oh Ricky you're so fine....hey Ricky!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFrmapGCuhs
WVRed
10-02-2015, 07:15 PM
Ruh Roh Raggy!
As much as I hate to say this, given it is Pitino, I wouldn't be shocked if it went on at Kentucky either.
WVRed
10-02-2015, 07:49 PM
I literally can't breathe after reading some of the comments on Twitter. The best ones aren't Redszone friendly, so I'd suggest just typing in Rick Pitino.
It looks like there are pictures in the book of this lady and the players. This isn't looking good for Louisville at all.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQWJYB9WsAAN_OS.jpg:large
lol
Bourgeois Zee
10-02-2015, 11:46 PM
Man, the ACC has been scandal central.
Syracuse cheats to keep players eligible, Miami gives them cash, Florida State allows them to rape and abuse women, and the mother of all scandals, UNC, which apparently allows everything. Now UofL.
Ouch.
Assembly Hall
10-03-2015, 09:15 AM
FWIW, 5 star recruit TJ Leaf has an OV scheduled at the 'Ville this week-end. He is the one that de-committed from Arizona. I hope he wasnt planning on getting laid! LOL
paintmered
10-03-2015, 09:32 AM
My feeling is that this sort of thing is widespread across the country. I had family in Morgantown when RichRod was at WVU - they claimed that it wasn't a secret among the community that his wife was running a brothel for recruits.
There were photos going around on Twitter recently of Alabama football recruits and their sorority "hosts".
Joseph
10-03-2015, 09:40 AM
My feeling is that this sort of thing is widespread across the country. I had family in Morgantown when RichRod was at WVU - they claimed that it wasn't a secret among the community that his wife was running a brothel for recruits.
There were photos going around on Twitter recently of Alabama football recruits and their sorority "hosts".
I absolutely agree. It's going on everywhere, Louisville just got caught. It may not be blatant prostitution, but the sorority girls are certainly helping the cause.
Bourgeois Zee
10-03-2015, 11:02 AM
My feeling is that this sort of thing is widespread across the country. I had family in Morgantown when RichRod was at WVU - they claimed that it wasn't a secret among the community that his wife was running a brothel for recruits.
There were photos going around on Twitter recently of Alabama football recruits and their sorority "hosts".
It's extra benefits and therefore a violation of NCAA rules.
Not only that, it looks really bad on the university-- U of L has had, in recent years, three fairly damaging sex scandals-- the 2009 Karen Sypher/ Pitino tryst, the Chris Jones rape/ consenting sex scandal last season, and now this. None of that mentions the asinine decision to re-hire Bobby Petrino after his own little scandal.
It certainly doesn't look good on the home-town university, that's for sure.
Assembly Hall
10-03-2015, 11:41 AM
It's extra benefits and therefore a violation of NCAA rules.
Not only that, it looks really bad on the university-- U of L has had, in recent years, three fairly damaging sex scandals-- the 2009 Karen Sypher/ Pitino tryst, the Chris Jones rape/ consenting sex scandal last season, and now this. None of that mentions the asinine decision to re-hire Bobby Petrino after his own little scandal.
It certainly doesn't look good on the home-town university, that's for sure.
Makes me wonder about the Chris Jones dismissal. Was this one of the girls involved in the "ring"?
RedTeamGo!
10-03-2015, 12:38 PM
Pitino always has been slimy
RedTeamGo!
10-03-2015, 12:40 PM
My feeling is that this sort of thing is widespread across the country. I had family in Morgantown when RichRod was at WVU - they claimed that it wasn't a secret among the community that his wife was running a brothel for recruits.
There were photos going around on Twitter recently of Alabama football recruits and their sorority "hosts".
Lol, his wife was "running a brothel." I'm sure that rumor was based in reality.
westofyou
10-03-2015, 12:41 PM
My feeling is that this sort of thing is widespread across the country. I had family in Morgantown when RichRod was at WVU - they claimed that it wasn't a secret among the community that his wife was running a brothel for recruits.
There were photos going around on Twitter recently of Alabama football recruits and their sorority "hosts".
I saw this played out in "He's got game" over 15 years ago.
Why do folks act surprised?
dabvu2498
10-03-2015, 12:51 PM
If you're going to cheat, why not just give the kids cash? Why involve a middle(wo)man who could eventually sell her story? Doesn't make sense.
Bourgeois Zee
10-03-2015, 12:55 PM
If you're going to cheat, why not just give the kids cash? Why involve a middle(wo)man who could eventually sell her story? Doesn't make sense.
You're doubting the story?
dabvu2498
10-03-2015, 01:01 PM
You're doubting the story?
I haven't seen enough details to have an opinion one way or the other. Just saying, it would be a dumb thing to do and an even dumber reason to get caught.
Assembly Hall
10-03-2015, 10:33 PM
Pitino always has been slimy
And Petrino takes exception to those words!!!!!!!
Assembly Hall
10-03-2015, 10:37 PM
I saw this played out in "He's got game" over 15 years ago.
Why do folks act surprised?
Can we do a remake of "Blue Chips" Louisville style? Call it "Red Chips"? College basketball, seedy women, and sex in restaurants. I smell an Oscar.
Redsfaithful
10-04-2015, 12:43 AM
I'm really surprised that college recruits have sex with girls and women who want them to go to their school, who knew?
Assembly Hall
10-04-2015, 12:47 AM
I'm really surprised that college recruits have sex with girls and women who want them to go to their school, who knew?
Always remember.....It's wrong if ya get caught.
WVRed
10-04-2015, 07:48 AM
My feeling is that this sort of thing is widespread across the country. I had family in Morgantown when RichRod was at WVU - they claimed that it wasn't a secret among the community that his wife was running a brothel for recruits.
There were photos going around on Twitter recently of Alabama football recruits and their sorority "hosts".
Nothing surprises me in college athletics anymore (especially in Morganhole) but living in WV that's the first I've heard that one.
One thing is for sure, Louisville has the horniest athletic department in the NCAA.
paintmered
10-04-2015, 09:55 AM
Nothing surprises me in college athletics anymore (especially in Morganhole) but living in WV that's the first I've heard that one.
One thing is for sure, Louisville has the horniest athletic department in the NCAA.
As I understood it (and they only mentioned it once at the time), Mrs RichRod was responsible for arranging the meetings between the recruits and co-eds for those purposes; it wasn't a brothel in the overt sense. But it was a badly kept secret that it was going on.
At best, they knew this second-hand. But they were highly connected in the community and built a large social network during their time in Morgantown. They had no issue with the university (one got their Masters at WVU while there), so this isn't a poison pen allegation.
Regardless, this is stuff from a decade ago. I brought it up to suggest the Louisville allegations aren't unique, and not to cast stones towards WVU.
Assembly Hall
10-04-2015, 10:17 AM
It is alarming to me that we got championship coaches in hot water all the time anymore.
Boston Red
10-05-2015, 03:23 PM
So ESPN had Matt Jones on today to talk about this scandal. Umm...that's not a particularly good choice if they were going for objective journalism.
Assembly Hall
10-05-2015, 03:43 PM
So ESPN had Matt Jones on today to talk about this scandal. Umm...that's not a particularly good choice if they were going for objective journalism.
Did Jones say anything about Pitino giving the girls a "taste test"? Inquiring minds want to know.
bucksfan2
10-05-2015, 04:15 PM
College's want to put their best foot forward when recruiting. Its why big programs use marquis games to bring in top level recruits. If you are an OSU coach, are you going to bring a prized recruit to Hawaii or the MSU or PSU night game? They also are going to have attractive women showing the guys around the campus. They aren't going to serve them dorm variety food, I would imagine they get a nice meal. Its all a part of the "sell" job. Now I would think that it is few and far between that a university is using an actual brothel to recruit players. If any of this is true, even one player, Pitano needs to be gone. But then again Williams has been cheating at UNC for years and keeps getting extensions.
WVRed
10-05-2015, 04:26 PM
So ESPN had Matt Jones on today to talk about this scandal. Umm...that's not a particularly good choice if they were going for objective journalism.
They could have had Pat Forde on, who has even said that Pitinos job could be in jeopardy. That one surprised me.
From everything I've read, the smoking gun could be Antonio Blakeney. He committed to Louisville then backed out ten days later and eventually committed to LSU. He was mentioned in the book as having prostitutes sent to the room for him and his dad.
Bourgeois Zee
10-05-2015, 05:06 PM
They could have had Pat Forde on, who has even said that Pitinos job could be in jeopardy. That one surprised me.
From everything I've read, the smoking gun could be Antonio Blakeney. He committed to Louisville then backed out ten days later and eventually committed to LSU. He was mentioned in the book as having prostitutes sent to the room for him and his dad.
Why would Blackney ever admit to having sex with a prostitute? What's in it for him?
My guess is that it's for real simply because Pitino didn't deny any of it. In fact, he went out of his way to say that.
Telling, IMO, for those that are willing to hear.
Hoosier Red
10-05-2015, 05:20 PM
They could have had Pat Forde on, who has even said that Pitinos job could be in jeopardy. That one surprised me.
From everything I've read, the smoking gun could be Antonio Blakeney. He committed to Louisville then backed out ten days later and eventually committed to LSU. He was mentioned in the book as having prostitutes sent to the room for him and his dad.
I think they tend to frown on having former ESPN employees on but I could be wrong.
Boston Red
10-05-2015, 05:22 PM
I think they tend to frown on having former ESPN employees on but I could be wrong.
They could have found someone with at least a glimmer of objectivity, though. This would be like having WMR on to talk about it.
Assembly Hall
10-05-2015, 05:44 PM
They could have found someone with at least a glimmer of objectivity, though. This would be like having WMR on to talk about it.
That dang WMR. I just got off the phone with him. He is my "go to" guy when it comes to happenings involving the Kentucky schools. I know he is a big UK guy but I trust his somewhat unbiased opinion on the other ones. He told me Louisville and Pitino are facing major sanctions. I think he said it had something to do with NCAA Rule TnA-69.........."Lack of Prostitutional Control". I trust him! LOL
@WMR....sorry dude I couldnt help myself. You can get me back later!!!!! ;)
They could have found someone with at least a glimmer of objectivity, though. This would be like having WMR on to talk about it.
:laugh: When I heard Jones was going to be on, I could just imagine the steam coming out of the ears of the collective Louisville fanbase. I haven't seen his appearance, but it sounded like he held back on the incendiary vitriol...
Anyway, I had to finally try my hand at one of the infamous "Hitler" Videos... a couple NSFW words...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=ziU657BuLeA
That dang WMR. I just got off the phone with him. He is my "go to" guy when it comes to happenings involving the Kentucky schools. I know he is a big UK guy but I trust his somewhat unbiased opinion on the other ones. He told me Louisville and Pitino are facing major sanctions. I think he said it had something to do with NCAA Rule TnA-69.........."Lack of Prostitutional Control". I trust him! LOL
@WMR....sorry dude I couldnt help myself. You can get me back later!!!!! ;)
After hearing the fathers of recruits got in on the action, it certainly creates a prime opening for a new "Papa John's" Ad campaign. :D
Assembly Hall
10-05-2015, 05:59 PM
After hearing the fathers of recruits got in on the action, it certainly creates a prime opening for a new "Papa John's" Ad campaign. :D
LOL.....I hear they are already calling this in New England Patriot fashion....Forni-gate.
WVRed
10-05-2015, 06:10 PM
They could have found someone with at least a glimmer of objectivity, though. This would be like having WMR on to talk about it.
I don't disagree, but I do find it funny though that Louisville fans are more upset that ESPN had Matt Jones for commentary instead of being upset over paying for prostitutes for players and recruits.
Boston Red
10-05-2015, 06:14 PM
Allegations of payments for prostitutes for players and recruits.
WVRed
10-05-2015, 06:19 PM
Allegations of payments for prostitutes for players and recruits.
That may be, but nobody is really denying it.
Assembly Hall
10-05-2015, 06:30 PM
That may be, but nobody is really denying it.
I suspect "Cardinal" sins have been committed.
Bourgeois Zee
10-05-2015, 06:41 PM
Allegations of payments for prostitutes for players and recruits.
It should tell you something when neither Pitino nor Jurich denied the allegations.
Of course, if you're a Cardinal fan, at this point, you're grasping at any straw possible, I'd imagine.
(That's what she said.)
Boston Red
10-05-2015, 07:24 PM
I don't really care if it's true or not, personally. I dislike Pitino more than any UK fan. You guys at least liked him at one point.
But these allegations are far from proven.
Assembly Hall
10-05-2015, 08:34 PM
It should tell you something when neither Pitino nor Jurich denied the allegations.
Of course, if you're a Cardinal fan, at this point, you're grasping at any straw possible, I'd imagine.
(That's what she said.)
I just got a feeling this is gonna turn out bad....but I am luvin' the s@#T.
Assembly Hall
10-05-2015, 08:36 PM
I don't really care if it's true or not, personally. I dislike Pitino more than any UK fan. You guys at least liked him at one point.
But these allegations are far from proven.
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky" (finger pointing)
WVRed
10-05-2015, 08:57 PM
I don't really care if it's true or not, personally. I dislike Pitino more than any UK fan. You guys at least liked him at one point.
But these allegations are far from proven.
And I still do. Pitino took over a program with NCAA sanctions that nearly got the death penalty and made Kentucky into a mid 90s powerhouse. He will always be remembered for that.
My biggest issue was Pitino always thinking he was bigger than Kentucky, and truthfully, Louisville as well. That's why I enjoy the rivalry more with Cal as coach and completely dominating the series. While Pitino did restore Kentucky, there were four banners hanging in the rafters before he ever came to Lexington.
Assembly Hall
10-06-2015, 07:04 AM
And I still do. Pitino took over a program with NCAA sanctions that nearly got the death penalty and made Kentucky into a mid 90s powerhouse. He will always be remembered for that.
My biggest issue was Pitino always thinking he was bigger than Kentucky, and truthfully, Louisville as well. That's why I enjoy the rivalry more with Cal as coach and completely dominating the series. While Pitino did restore Kentucky, there were four banners hanging in the rafters before he ever came to Lexington.
Pitino turned UK around in a hurry. I believe in his second year they finished in Top 10 but were on probation.
And I thought they had 5 in the rafters before Rick got there?
dabvu2498
10-06-2015, 07:40 AM
My biggest issue was Pitino always thinking he was bigger than Kentucky
Then how in the world can you even stand your current coach?
cumberlandreds
10-06-2015, 08:02 AM
Pitino turned UK around in a hurry. I believe in his second year they finished in Top 10 but were on probation.
And I thought they had 5 in the rafters before Rick got there?
Yea they won 22 games his 2nd year. I don't remember where they were ranked at the end. They were still on probation that year so they couldn't go to the NCAA's. Pitino did put up title number six in 96. That 96 team is still the best UK team I have ever seen in all my years of following them,
I never did mind that Pitino went to Louisville. I have never really understood all the angst in that. He left UK for the pros. When that didn't work out you knew he would get a high profile college job. Louisville just happened to be the first one available. Although I think he did have a shot at the Michigan job too. When I started to really dislike him was when he got involved with that crazy woman and all that sorriness around that episode. I've never had any respect for him as a person since. I don't doubt that he knew at least some of what was going on with this current escapade. Even if he didn't, he is paid to know everything that happens within his program. If this is proven to be true then he should go down with the ship.
cumberlandreds
10-06-2015, 08:04 AM
Then how in the world can you even stand your current coach?
Cal does know how to defer to the fans. Pitino always had a certain smirk that really turned off a lot of people even when things were going extremely well. I don't sense that nearly as much with Cal.
Assembly Hall
10-06-2015, 08:27 AM
Yea they won 22 games his 2nd year. I don't remember where they were ranked at the end. They were still on probation that year so they couldn't go to the NCAA's. Pitino did put up title number six in 96. That 96 team is still the best UK team I have ever seen in all my years of following them,
I never did mind that Pitino went to Louisville. I have never really understood all the angst in that. He left UK for the pros. When that didn't work out you knew he would get a high profile college job. Louisville just happened to be the first one available. Although I think he did have a shot at the Michigan job too. When I started to really dislike him was when he got involved with that crazy woman and all that sorriness around that episode. I've never had any respect for him as a person since. I don't doubt that he knew at least some of what was going on with this current escapade. Even if he didn't, he is paid to know everything that happens within his program. If this is proven to be true then he should go down with the ship.
From an IU perspective, I remember Rick's first year. The Hoosiers were coming off a great season the year before but lost key pieces. IU went into Rupp with a freshman laden team and beat the 'Cats by 30. I was shocked and couldnt believe how far UK had fallen. The very next year(Rick's second) UK came to Bloomington, IU escaped with like a 3 point victory. I remember thinking to myself, "Wow that was fast". That IU team won the B1G that year and finished #3 in the polls. UK finished #9. Pitino turned the ship around in nano second.
Bourgeois Zee
10-06-2015, 08:37 AM
Then how in the world can you even stand your current coach?
Calipari doesn't think he's bigger than Kentucky.
He also, as far as I know, hasn't had an affair with a deranged woman on a restaurant table. And then played the holier-than-thou/ my brother-in-law died in 9/11 card.
cumberlandreds
10-06-2015, 09:11 AM
From an IU perspective, I remember Rick's first year. The Hoosiers were coming off a great season the year before but lost key pieces. IU went into Rupp with a freshman laden team and beat the 'Cats by 30. I was shocked and couldnt believe how far UK had fallen. The very next year(Rick's second) UK came to Bloomington, IU escaped with like a 3 point victory. I remember thinking to myself, "Wow that was fast". That IU team won the B1G that year and finished #3 in the polls. UK finished #9. Pitino turned the ship around in nano second.
Actually that 30 point beating came when Sutton was still the coach in his last season. Pitino's first team nearly beat IU in Indianapolis. They lost by two points and had a chance with the game winning shot. That sort of kicked off the Pitino's Bombino's team. That was his first team and it was miracle that they went 13-13. IIRC they did lose to IU the next season in Bloomington by about 3 or 4 points.
Assembly Hall
10-06-2015, 09:17 AM
Actually that 30 point beating came when Sutton was still the coach in his last season. Pitino's first team nearly beat IU in Indianapolis. They lost by two points and had a chance with the game winning shot. That sort of kicked off the Pitino's Bombino's team. That was his first team and it was miracle that they went 13-13. IIRC they did lose to IU the next season in Bloomington by about 3 or 4 points.
Yeah, you are correct. Damn, I am getting old!!!!!!!!
Assembly Hall
10-06-2015, 10:18 AM
http://www.louisvillecardinal.com/2015/10/katina-powells-book-is-published/
Jefferson County Commonwealth Attorney Thomas Wine (4 year undergrad & law school at UL ... had Andre McGee's attorney Scott Cox present at his swearing in) using the media to engage in attempted witness intimidation.
Assembly Hall
10-06-2015, 11:52 AM
As an Indiana boy, I have been seeing reports that Evansville native JaQuan Lyle is mentioned in the book. IU had him, then he committed to the 'Ville. Later de-committed from the Cards and chose Oregon. Then left there due to some sex charges levied against other players. He is in enrolled at Ohio St. now. The plot thickens.
Boston Red
10-06-2015, 12:37 PM
Oregon and Ohio State have better hookers?
Chip R
10-06-2015, 12:40 PM
Not that I don't believe this woman's story but in the book recap she said 700 texts to McGee were deleted by a virus. Of course that is possible but it's quite a coincidence that all those texts just disappeared.
WrongVerb
10-06-2015, 01:50 PM
Not that I don't believe this woman's story but in the book recap she said 700 texts to McGee were deleted by a virus. Of course that is possible but it's quite a coincidence that all those texts just disappeared.
Maybe she's been advised that if it came out that she deleted the texts with the expectation that they'd be used in a criminal investigation that she could be charged with a crime.
Assembly Hall
10-06-2015, 04:19 PM
Oregon and Ohio State have better hookers?
Who knows...LOL.
But there are rumors out there that Lyle de-committed from Louisville because he was aware of the book. Then went to Oregon...where there are rumors floating around about him with the trouble that happened out there.
WVRed
10-06-2015, 09:42 PM
Then how in the world can you even stand your current coach?
We'll wait and see how Cal leaves Kentucky before making that call. He hasn't done anything to irk the fans in ways that Pitino did.
I remember when both Tubby left and Gillespy was fired Pitino came out to deny interest in returning, but basically tried to push one of his (Travis Ford) in the process. He even detailed why Donovan should not take the job like his opinion held merit to the fan base.
WVRed
10-07-2015, 12:16 PM
I'm just gonna leave this right here....
http://ksr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/louisville-shame1.jpg
Assembly Hall
10-07-2015, 12:23 PM
Just shaking my head. Good stuff!!!!!!!
Bourgeois Zee
10-07-2015, 01:17 PM
Not that I don't believe this woman's story but in the book recap she said 700 texts to McGee were deleted by a virus. Of course that is possible but it's quite a coincidence that all those texts just disappeared.
She does have quite a few other texts in the book. Just not all of the texts she says she receives.
So it's not completely word of mouth.
There is quite a bit of meat on that bone.
Allegations of payments for prostitutes for players and recruits.
Ruh Roh, Shaggy...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25331355/ex-louisville-recruit-jaquan-lyle-confirms-escort-allegations-for-ncaa
Lyle is the smoking ... ... ... gun.
Boston Red
10-08-2015, 12:08 PM
Ruh Roh, Shaggy...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25331355/ex-louisville-recruit-jaquan-lyle-confirms-escort-allegations-for-ncaa
Lyle is the smoking ... ... ... gun.
Hey, if it cleanses Louisville of the Pitino stink, I'm all for it. This whole situation may allow me to become a Louisville basketball fan again.
WVRed
10-08-2015, 12:12 PM
Ruh Roh, Shaggy...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25331355/ex-louisville-recruit-jaquan-lyle-confirms-escort-allegations-for-ncaa
Lyle is the smoking ... ... ... gun.
So is Blakeney. That story if it's true may be more disturbing. Sending escorts to the Embassy Suites for him and his father.
Either way, doesn't look like Louisville is getting out of this alive.
WVRed
10-08-2015, 12:15 PM
Hey, if it cleanses Louisville of the Pitino stink, I'm all for it. This whole situation may allow me to become a Louisville basketball fan again.
My question is this, if the allegations hold up and Pitino is removed, would Brad Stevens be the guy, or would he even want it?
Jurich has also been linked to the Texas opening as well.
Chip R
10-08-2015, 12:17 PM
I know there's a whole mess of NCAA rules that were broken if the allegations are true but are there any potential criminal charges anyone may be facing?
Boston Red
10-08-2015, 12:20 PM
My question is this, if the allegations hold up and Pitino is removed, would Brad Stevens be the guy, or would he even want it?
Jurich has also been linked to the Texas opening as well.
Jurich isn't going anywhere. I can't imagine Brad Stevens leaving the Celtics now for Louisville.
Gregg Marshall would be fantastic. Love that guy.
Assembly Hall
10-08-2015, 12:41 PM
Ruh Roh, Shaggy...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25331355/ex-louisville-recruit-jaquan-lyle-confirms-escort-allegations-for-ncaa
Lyle is the smoking ... ... ... gun.
That is why I posted what I did above concerning JaQuan. The rumors evidently are confirmed at least at the 'Ville.
Assembly Hall
10-08-2015, 12:45 PM
My question is this, if the allegations hold up and Pitino is removed, would Brad Stevens be the guy, or would he even want it?
Jurich has also been linked to the Texas opening as well.
Oh no, if Brad fails in the NBA and that is a big "IF", he will be back at Butler or possibly IU. The IU job is his if he wants it.
Hey, if it cleanses Louisville of the Pitino stink, I'm all for it. This whole situation may allow me to become a Louisville basketball fan again.
Pitino causes you issues but you're cool with Petrino? Why the distinction?
cumberlandreds
10-08-2015, 01:24 PM
I know there's a whole mess of NCAA rules that were broken if the allegations are true but are there any potential criminal charges anyone may be facing?
I read that McGee and Powell could have some charges levied against them. I suppose if they find a money trail back to Pitino or anyone else at UL then they would face some sort of charges.
Boston Red
10-08-2015, 01:33 PM
Pitino causes you issues but you're cool with Petrino? Why the distinction?
Completely different animals, those two.
And it certainly didn't help Pitino's cause that I thought he was a smug prick when he was at Kentucky and that I don't think his act has changed one bit since then. I honestly don't mind Calipari all that much. Never did. But Pitino has always been on my last nerve.
cumberlandreds
10-08-2015, 01:37 PM
Completely different animals, those two.
One's a Harley man and the other one is not? :)
Bourgeois Zee
10-08-2015, 01:48 PM
Completely different animals, those two.
How so?
Both are cheaters who skirt the rules in societal rules simply because they can.
At least Pitino gives notice when he quits.
Boston Red
10-08-2015, 01:50 PM
Petrino cheated on his wife. Don't care. I'm not his wife. If I were an Arkansas fan I'm sure I wouldn't like him. But I'm not.
paintmered
10-08-2015, 02:17 PM
Either way, doesn't look like Louisville is getting out of this alive.
Miami got out of similar allegations alive, although the NCAA's ineptitude had more to do with that than anything Miami did.
WVRed
10-08-2015, 03:20 PM
Petrino cheated on his wife. Don't care. I'm not his wife. If I were an Arkansas fan I'm sure I wouldn't like him. But I'm not.
So what's the difference?
You said they are different. Both skirted the rules, both cheated on their wives (not a big deal to you). Is Petrino more likable or what?
Boston Red
10-08-2015, 03:30 PM
Petrino isn't so smug. He isn't a media *****. He doesn't do things like wear a Colonel Sanders suit to draw attention to himself. He says epic things in press conferences like "We just gave them what they wanted".
He's a jerk, I'm sure, but not a jerk in a way that negatively affects me.
bucksfan2
10-08-2015, 03:35 PM
So what's the difference?
You said they are different. Both skirted the rules, both cheated on their wives (not a big deal to you). Is Petrino more likable or what?
In society today we tend to get all bent out of shape playing the morality card. Its ironic that who end up being the biggest moral police tend to have quite a bit of baggage in their closet, but I digress. What both Pitino and Petrino did have no impact on me, they didn't break the law, they didn't put anyone else in danger. Although Petrino created an office job for his girlfriend, but its one of those things that I have a difficult time getting upset about considering everything that goes on in collegiate sports.
If you are a womanizer and you are good at your job, more often than not you get to keep it. If you are a womanizer and you are bad, it will be used to fire you. I would imagine most college coaches contracts have a morality clause in their contract, not because they care about it, but it gives them an easy way to fire someone who they want gone.
I would have to think that Pitino has is rear covered on this case. He probably knows it is going on, he probably is perfectly fine with it, he just doesn't want to know the details and wants to make sure than there is no paper trail to him. Personally I have never been a Slick Rick fan, but think that if any modicum of this is connected to him, or even true, he should have been fired. The details do need to be sorted out, and Pitino means a ton to UL basketball, but you can't have the face of your college, make no mistake, Pitino is UL, connected to a prostitution ring to benefit recruiting.
WVRed
10-08-2015, 03:40 PM
In society today we tend to get all bent out of shape playing the morality card. Its ironic that who end up being the biggest moral police tend to have quite a bit of baggage in their closet, but I digress. What both Pitino and Petrino did have no impact on me, they didn't break the law, they didn't put anyone else in danger. Although Petrino created an office job for his girlfriend, but its one of those things that I have a difficult time getting upset about considering everything that goes on in collegiate sports.
If you are a womanizer and you are good at your job, more often than not you get to keep it. If you are a womanizer and you are bad, it will be used to fire you. I would imagine most college coaches contracts have a morality clause in their contract, not because they care about it, but it gives them an easy way to fire someone who they want gone.
I would have to think that Pitino has is rear covered on this case. He probably knows it is going on, he probably is perfectly fine with it, he just doesn't want to know the details and wants to make sure than there is no paper trail to him. Personally I have never been a Slick Rick fan, but think that if any modicum of this is connected to him, or even true, he should have been fired. The details do need to be sorted out, and Pitino means a ton to UL basketball, but you can't have the face of your college, make no mistake, Pitino is UL, connected to a prostitution ring to benefit recruiting.
There are so many parallels to Joe Paterno/Jerry Sandusky. The situations are different, but still disgusting on any level.
bucksfan2
10-08-2015, 03:45 PM
There are so many parallels to Joe Paterno/Jerry Sandusky. The situations are different, but still disgusting on any level.
Jerry Sandusky was a monster and Paterno looked the other way. The only parallel would be if UL organized escorts for underage kids. I looked and Lyle is 19, now a Buckeye, and hopefully his story sinks Pitino. But I just don't see a child molester in the same realm as having escorts sleep with recruits to commit to UL. As heinous as it may be, these escorts aren't taking the youth away from a child.
I can't really see any parallels with the Penn State situation...at least none that are remotely relevant.
Assembly Hall
10-08-2015, 06:42 PM
There are so many parallels to Joe Paterno/Jerry Sandusky. The situations are different, but still disgusting on any level.
Disgusting, yes. Parallel, no,
WVRed
10-08-2015, 08:25 PM
Just listened to the interview between Pitino and Terry Meiners. All I can say is wow.
Boston Red
10-08-2015, 08:42 PM
Just listened to the interview between Pitino and Terry Meiners. All I can say is wow.
I'm going to assume that most people on this board haven't a clue who Terry Meiners is.
WVRed
10-08-2015, 08:42 PM
Louisville pbp announcer
Boston Red
10-08-2015, 09:17 PM
Louisville pbp announcer
Ha, so you don't know who he is either.
Meiners is a local Louisville radio personality (who is supposed to be tight with Pitino). Paul Rogers is Louisville's play by play guy.
I'm going to assume that most people on this board haven't a clue who Terry Meiners is.
He's that guy that does that thing.
WVRed
10-09-2015, 12:11 PM
Ha, so you don't know who he is either.
Meiners is a local Louisville radio personality (who is supposed to be tight with Pitino). Paul Rogers is Louisville's play by play guy.
I admit, never lived in Louisville and have lived in West Virginia for the past 12 years. I saw he hosted the courtside show and assumed he was an announcer.
Regardless, Meiners didn't pull any punches, and neither did Pitino with his answers.
Tony Vanetti has been going after him too.
Boston Red
10-09-2015, 12:17 PM
Meiners is kind of a clown, but he's been generally been considered to be in Pitino's pocket.
WVRed
10-09-2015, 02:34 PM
Here's a transcript of the interview:
http://www.cardchronicle.com/2015/10/8/9484617/transcript-rick-pitino-interview-with-terry-meiners
Also a video of Andy Katz discussing the possibility of this being a Level 1 case:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13843496
Assembly Hall
10-10-2015, 08:13 AM
Dan Dakich gets into it with Lyle's HS coach....
http://www.courierpress.com/sports/Bosse-coach-Dan-Dakich-battle-on-Twitter-over-JaQuan-Lyle-331306702.html
Bourgeois Zee
10-10-2015, 08:42 AM
Dan Dakich gets into it with Lyle's HS coach....
http://www.courierpress.com/sports/Bosse-coach-Dan-Dakich-battle-on-Twitter-over-JaQuan-Lyle-331306702.html
Dakich is scum.
Lyle makes whatever decision on his own. The HS coach didn't pay for the hookers-- U of L did.
What does Dakich expects from a HS kid? He's 18 and being sent girls (and women). I'm certain he didn't card them or verify their ages. I'm also fairly certain 99.9999% of all recruits-- most if not all of Dakich's as well-- would have done what Lyle did.
Ridiculous troll.
Assembly Hall
10-10-2015, 09:24 AM
Dakich is scum.
Lyle makes whatever decision on his own. The HS coach didn't pay for the hookers-- U of L did.
What does Dakich expects from a HS kid? He's 18 and being sent girls (and women). I'm certain he didn't card them or verify their ages. I'm also fairly certain 99.9999% of all recruits-- most if not all of Dakich's as well-- would have done what Lyle did.
Ridiculous troll.
Dakich is not scum.....but he is a "shock-jock". I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Regardless, Lyle has become a hot topic considering what has been going on at L'ville.
WVRed
10-10-2015, 02:28 PM
If Bob Knight had Twitter, he'd be Dan Dakich.
Assembly Hall
10-10-2015, 03:54 PM
If Bob Knight had Twitter, he'd be Dan Dakich.
I call BS on that one.
Bourgeois Zee
10-10-2015, 04:05 PM
Dakich is not scum.....but he is a "shock-jock".
Same thing.
Dakich gets his jollies (and ratings) dogging a teenager put in an impossible situation and a coach who had nothing to do with it.
Classless.
Assembly Hall
10-10-2015, 04:17 PM
Same thing.
Dakich gets his jollies (and ratings) dogging a teenager put in an impossible situation and a coach who had nothing to do with it.
Classless.
I agree with that. I am just the post man!!!!!!!! LOL
That could be a new low for Dakich...
Incidentally, the HS coach definitely isn't teaching English on the side (improper your, irregardless). :lol:
Assembly Hall
10-11-2015, 08:01 AM
That could be a new low for Dakich...
Incidentally, the HS coach definitely isn't teaching English on the side (improper your, irregardless). :lol:
Naw, Dakich set his all-time low back a few months ago when talking about Priller on the air.
The fact is that Lyle was in trouble during his HS days.
Naw, Dakich set his all-time low back a few months ago when talking about Priller on the air.
The fact is that Lyle was in trouble during his HS days.
Still, those comments serve no purpose but to troll. What's that h.s. coach supposed to say?
Dakich came off like a big bully.
Assembly Hall
10-11-2015, 10:29 AM
Still, those comments serve no purpose but to troll. What's that h.s. coach supposed to say?
Dakich came off like a big bully.
Dan came off like a complete a-hole...IMO. There were definitely better ways to handle it. Dan must have taken too many lessons from Collin Cowherd.
cumberlandreds
10-20-2015, 08:30 AM
Today will not be a good day for UL basketball. ESPN seems to be devoting the day this mess. There is an hour long Outside the Lines later today with some revelations. They have apparently gotten five former recruits to talk about what was happening. One them said it was basically a strip club at Minardi Hall.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13927159/former-louisville-cardinals-basketball-players-recruits-acknowledge-stripper-parties-minardi-hall
Assembly Hall
10-20-2015, 08:59 AM
Today will not be a good day for UL basketball. ESPN seems to be devoting the day this mess. There is an hour long Outside the Lines later today with some revelations. They have apparently gotten five former recruits to talk about what was happening. One them said it was basically a strip club at Minardi Hall.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13927159/former-louisville-cardinals-basketball-players-recruits-acknowledge-stripper-parties-minardi-hall
Wow, just wow.
Stray
10-20-2015, 09:02 AM
Pretty sure Pitino needs to resign and Louisville needs to clean house.
WVRed
10-20-2015, 10:51 AM
Pretty sure Pitino needs to resign and Louisville needs to clean house.
I'm starting to wonder if Papa Tom will survive this as well.
That being said, I'd say the anonymous five will come to light when the investigation is settled.
Boston Red
10-20-2015, 11:07 AM
I'm starting to wonder if Papa Tom will survive this as well.
They could have video of Jurich putting $100 bills in stripper G-strings at these parties with his teeth, and he'd get a raise. And deserve it.
Tom Servo
10-20-2015, 11:11 AM
Pitino's done.
Chip R
10-20-2015, 11:44 AM
I'm starting to wonder if Papa Tom will survive this as well.
That being said, I'd say the anonymous five will come to light when the investigation is settled.
I think it may be before that. With the internet you can find this stuff out if you are interested enough.
cumberlandreds
10-20-2015, 11:45 AM
Pitino's done.
You would think so but I thought that a few years ago too with his other big scandal. I have always said he is like a vampire and almost impossible to kill off. But this could be the stake in the heart for him.
Bourgeois Zee
10-20-2015, 11:49 AM
I haven't seen enough details to have an opinion one way or the other. Just saying, it would be a dumb thing to do and an even dumber reason to get caught.
What say thee now dab?
WVRed
10-20-2015, 11:50 AM
You would think so but I thought that a few years ago too with his other big scandal. I have always said he is like a vampire and almost impossible to kill off. But this could be the stake in the heart for him.
My thing is, even if he didn't know, he should have known. Calipari or Coach K wouldn't get a free pass if it happened at UK or Duke, why should Pitino?
bucksfan2
10-20-2015, 11:52 AM
My thing is, even if he didn't know, he should have known. Calipari or Coach K wouldn't get a free pass if it happened at UK or Duke, why should Pitino?
Calipari has a past history, so no it wouldn't fly with him.
Coach K is untouchable, I think he would hold onto Duke better than Pitino would UL. I think if slick Rick has stayed on this far he will continue to stay on. Remember these schools love winning so much that they give coaches extensions when they create sham classes to keep players eligible, I am looking at you UNC.
Bourgeois Zee
10-20-2015, 11:55 AM
My thing is, even if he didn't know, he should have known. Calipari or Coach K wouldn't get a free pass if it happened at UK or Duke, why should Pitino?
Really disagree about K getting away with program violations. He has. Repeatedly. Williams at UNC can certainly do whatever he wants now. Dean Smith could do whatever he wanted pretty much throughout his tenure. Ditto Wooden.
I don't think Pitino is in that stratosphere of coaches, but it'll be interesting to see if the NCAA thinks he is.
As a side note, this could very well be the first case ever of a championship banner being taken down. Might make precedence for UNC as well. (If that case is ever completed.)
Chip R
10-20-2015, 12:07 PM
You would think so but I thought that a few years ago too with his other big scandal. I have always said he is like a vampire and almost impossible to kill off. But this could be the stake in the heart for him.
That was a personal scandal that didn't have anything to do with the program. He was just unlucky enough to get caught. How many coaches have had/are having affairs? How many programs have used hookers - not hostesses or easy coeds - to recruit players? That's what I can't figure out. Why get professionals when there are a bevy of girls on campus that would do what the hookers did for free? This scandal has to do with the program and not just Pitino himself. IIRC, there was a story out there when he was at BU he took players to a strip bar.
They could have video of Jurich putting $100 bills in stripper G-strings at these parties with his teeth, and he'd get a raise. And deserve it.
^ this is the attitude that's pervasive at UL and why they're in this current mess (a complicit, fearful local media is another big factor).
The entire organization needs a purging, from Ramsey and his million dollar payouts to cronies on down.
UL is still supposedly a public university, despite being run like a cartel.
Really disagree about K getting away with program violations. He has. Repeatedly. Williams at UNC can certainly do whatever he wants now. Dean Smith could do whatever he wanted pretty much throughout his tenure. Ditto Wooden.
I don't think Pitino is in that stratosphere of coaches, but it'll be interesting to see if the NCAA thinks he is.
As a side note, this could very well be the first case ever of a championship banner being taken down. Might make precedence for UNC as well. (If that case is ever completed.)
Corey Maggette and Myron Piggie... Lance Thomas and jewelry... 2 clear instances where wins should've been vacated.
Rat is a golden boy... just like Dean Smyth... Dan Gilbert and Wooden.
Boston Red
10-20-2015, 12:38 PM
^ this is the attitude that's pervasive at UL and why they're in this current mess (a complicit, fearful local media is another big factor).
It's also why they're in the ACC with an incredibly successful, profitable athletic department. Jurich could pee on the desk of the Chairman of the BOT on television and come out of it just fine.
Boston Red
10-20-2015, 01:05 PM
Pitino has broken his silence on the situation and issued the following statement:
"Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time."
Gonna be interesting to see what the ncaa does... UL isn't on the level of a UNCheat or Dook... they may get smacked hard.
cumberlandreds
10-20-2015, 01:21 PM
Pitino has lost one of his biggest allies in the press,Rick Bozich.
http://www.wdrb.com/story/30307084/bozich-this-is-one-mess-pitino-cant-fix
cumberlandreds
10-20-2015, 01:24 PM
That was a personal scandal that didn't have anything to do with the program. He was just unlucky enough to get caught. How many coaches have had/are having affairs? How many programs have used hookers - not hostesses or easy coeds - to recruit players? That's what I can't figure out. Why get professionals when there are a bevy of girls on campus that would do what the hookers did for free? This scandal has to do with the program and not just Pitino himself. IIRC, there was a story out there when he was at BU he took players to a strip bar.
He is head of the program and one of the biggest faces of the university. You have to conduct yourself much better than he did in that scandal to keep your job IMO. I don't care how many other coaches have had affairs. Bottom line he was caught and made the entire university look bad and looked even worse when they kept him on board.
Chip R
10-20-2015, 02:27 PM
He is head of the program and one of the biggest faces of the university. You have to conduct yourself much better than he did in that scandal to keep your job IMO. I don't care how many other coaches have had affairs. Bottom line he was caught and made the entire university look bad and looked even worse when they kept him on board.
I don't disagree but what I'm saying is that adultery isn't a fireable offense nor is it an NCAA violation. His bad luck was that he was screwing a crazy woman. This is much, much worse. Even if he was ignorant of the situation, which I don't believe he was, he's the one in charge of the program so he should have to pay the ultimate price.
I don't care how great of a coach he is, if he was at a school I went to, or cared at all about, I'd want him gone. I don't think all this going on and him not knowing about it makes him look that much better. The picture being painted is crazy, and for that to be going on and he know nothing about it? If that's the case, he should be fired for being so clueless. I'm not sure what they're waiting on.
RedTeamGo!
10-20-2015, 04:09 PM
Kentucky fans acting all high and mighty towards Lousiville, Duke, and UNC fans is hilarious.
dougdirt
10-20-2015, 04:29 PM
I don't disagree but what I'm saying is that adultery isn't a fireable offense nor is it an NCAA violation. His bad luck was that he was screwing a crazy woman. This is much, much worse. Even if he was ignorant of the situation, which I don't believe he was, he's the one in charge of the program so he should have to pay the ultimate price.
Tell that to Bobby Petrino.
Boston Red
10-20-2015, 04:31 PM
Tell that to Bobby Petrino.
Bobby Petrino didn't get fired for banging the youngin. He got fired for putting her on the AD's payroll.
dougdirt
10-20-2015, 04:36 PM
Bobby Petrino didn't get fired for banging the youngin. He got fired for putting her on the AD's payroll.
If you say so.
Assembly Hall
10-20-2015, 04:56 PM
Kentucky fans acting all high and mighty towards Lousiville, Duke, and UNC fans is hilarious.
You gotta admit this sets a different bar than anything that has ever happened before. I mean we are talking hookers here.
Kentucky fans acting all high and mighty towards Lousiville, Duke, and UNC fans is hilarious.
Almost as hilarious as a buckeye chiming in!!!!!!!! Lulz!!!!!
See how that works?
Bourgeois Zee
10-20-2015, 05:26 PM
Kentucky fans acting all high and mighty towards Lousiville, Duke, and UNC fans is hilarious.
When was the last time Kentucky or one of its players got caught committing an egregious NCAA violation? 1988, with Eddie Sutton, Emery Freight, and Eric Manuel.
Duke? 2010 (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/20290116/will-coach-k-duke-skate-again-yes-unless-the-heat-stays-on-blue-devils). Before that-- 1999.
UNC? Last season.
U of L? What time is it?
It's been more than 25 years since Kentucky was caught by the NCAA doing anything. Now, I'm sure your argument is going to be tied to the word "caught". I'd argue that if the NCAA wants to nail anyone, it's John Calipari. And their history with UK is such that you certainly can't accuse The Wildcats of getting any kind of preferential treatment. Ever. In fact, the current NCAA president has said as much about Kentucky and its fans. So, if they're looking at any program with a fine tooth comb, it would be Kentucky's (and Calipari's).
And, since he's been at UK (and since 1988 for Kentucky), crickets...
RedTeamGo!
10-20-2015, 05:28 PM
When was the last time Kentucky or one of its players got caught committing an egregious NCAA violation? 1988, with Eddie Sutton, Emery Freight, and Eric Manuel.
Duke? 2010 (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/20290116/will-coach-k-duke-skate-again-yes-unless-the-heat-stays-on-blue-devils). Before that-- 1999.
UNC? Last season.
U of L? What time is it?
It's been more than 25 years since Kentucky was caught by the NCAA doing anything. Now, I'm sure your argument is going to be tied to the word "caught". I'd argue that if the NCAA wants to nail anyone, it's John Calipari. And their history with UK is such that you certainly can't accuse The Wildcats of getting any kind of preferential treatment. Ever. In fact, the current NCAA president has said as much about Kentucky and its fans. So, if they're looking at any program with a fine tooth comb, it would be Kentucky's (and Calipari's).
And, since he's been at UK (and since 1988 for Kentucky), crickets...
I'm not going to get into it, just personally find it amusing.
Boston Red
10-20-2015, 05:41 PM
When was the last time Kentucky or one of its players got caught committing an egregious NCAA violation?
When did Hal Mumme resign?
Bourgeois Zee
10-20-2015, 07:03 PM
When did Hal Mumme resign?
Obviously, we're talking basketball here-- as evidenced by the other programs involved.
However, to answer your question, 2001. (Or nine years before Duke's last basketball issue.)
Like it or not, Kentucky's been clean for more than a decade.
The other programs? Not really...
Boston Red
10-20-2015, 07:19 PM
Well, they haven't been caught in a decade at least. I'm not sure I'd be confident saying any program is actually "clean" at this point.
But this theoretical discussion is probably more at home in the Confederate Flag thread. :)
If it came to light that what went on at UL went on at my school, I'd want the house cleaned from the AD on down, and maybe the President too. 4 damn years?!?! Honestly, their level of knowledge is immaterial. If they weren't aware, they should've been. And put a stop to it.
It's seriously gross. Hopefully none of the recruits caught anything.
WVRed
10-21-2015, 07:41 AM
This pretty much sums it up for me:
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/a-letter-to-rick-pitino/
RiverRat13
10-21-2015, 08:14 AM
I'm not sure I'd be confident saying any program is actually "clean" at this point.
Bingo.
Assembly Hall
10-21-2015, 08:40 AM
I would like to know where the money came from to pay the girls.
I would like to know where the money came from to pay the girls.
Katina references a "Coach Mike" referred to by McGee. Mike Baladado was mentioned as central to the Blakeney recruitment and others.
It may have been him or he may have been a go-between a booster, Pitino, or someone else.
:shrug:
Assembly Hall
10-21-2015, 09:29 AM
Katina references a "Coach Mike" referred to by McGee. Mike Baladado was mentioned as central to the Blakeney recruitment and others.
It may have been him or he may have been a go-between a booster, Pitino, or someone else.
:shrug:
Well if that money trail leads back to the university.....
WVRed
10-21-2015, 10:36 AM
A couple of things:
1. Antonio Blakeney as a whole I've kinda thought is sketchy. Even while he was being recruited by Kentucky, I'd question how he and Bennie Simmons ended up at LSU and why LSU is keeping Blakeney from speaking.
Also still think it's disgusting that a father would be okay with prostitution for himself and his son during a recruiting visit, unless it was a guardian and I read it wrong.
2. Why would McGee orchestrate anything for Louisville while he was at UMKC? I'm at a loss on that one.
Assembly Hall
10-22-2015, 08:55 AM
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/2015/10/21/sullivan-rick-pitinos-time-expiring-louisville/74320882/
Boston Red
10-22-2015, 01:58 PM
Thought some of you guys might enjoy this.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQL8foNecv22Y2iDBHw5TXP1tB5QFl0T NZBjkLIMOijEFcMG4x4
Chip R
10-23-2015, 02:20 PM
McGee has resigned at UMKC. Called the accusations against him "false."
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/andre-mcgee-resigns-at-umkc--calls-allegations-against-him--false-173133420.html
cumberlandreds
10-23-2015, 02:35 PM
McGee has resigned at UMKC. Called the accusations against him "false."
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/andre-mcgee-resigns-at-umkc--calls-allegations-against-him--false-173133420.html
That means he doesn't have to answer to the NCAA now. Unless criminal charges are brought against him he can clam up forever.
Assembly Hall
10-23-2015, 05:46 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25351008/louisville-coach-rick-pitino-skipping-acc-media-day-due-to-scandal
That means he doesn't have to answer to the NCAA now. Unless criminal charges are brought against him he can clam up forever.
The ncaa considered a refusal to participate as an admission of guilt in the past.
Bourgeois Zee
10-25-2015, 01:51 PM
The ncaa considered a refusal to participate as an admission of guilt in the past.
They've also let it slide. (Duke & UNC)
WVRed
10-25-2015, 02:26 PM
They've also let it slide. (Duke & UNC)
I don't think UNC and Duke had hookers to deal with either.
They've also let it slide. (Duke & UNC)
Yeah, like I said before, little brothel isn't a favored son like unc or dook.
I wouldn't bet on a magnanimous ncaa in this situation. The tawdry nature of the scandal is another factor.
Bourgeois Zee
10-25-2015, 07:31 PM
Yeah, like I said before, little brothel isn't a favored son like unc or dook.
There's precedence either way.
(Not that precedence matters with the NCAA.)
You can't assume anything with them-- they hammer one team and let another skate with little more than a slap on the wrist. (And others, they let go completely, ignoring blatant impropriety with willful ignorance.)
That means he doesn't have to answer to the NCAA now. Unless criminal charges are brought against him he can clam up forever.
He stands to get rich as an unemployed man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcWFuzptMSs
Sooooooo funny. :lol:
cumberlandreds
10-28-2015, 08:12 AM
I saw that the gestapo (NCAA) was in Louisville the last two days interviewing people. That had to be fun.
Assembly Hall
10-28-2015, 08:28 AM
I saw that the gestapo (NCAA) was in Louisville the last two days interviewing people. That had to be fun.
I wonder if they interviewed Colonel Hogan(Pitino)?
cumberlandreds
10-28-2015, 08:31 AM
I wonder if they interviewed Colonel Hogan(Pitino)?
I heard that Private Schultz did the actual interviewing for them. And he knew nothing,nothiiiiing afterwards.
Assembly Hall
10-29-2015, 10:07 AM
I heard that Private Schultz did the actual interviewing for them. And he knew nothing,nothiiiiing afterwards.
Well they should have gotten Colonel Klink to do them.
Apparently the Commonwealth Attorney of Louisville has issued subpoenas.
He's a UL undergrad and law school grad.
Wonder if he's trying to protect Lil Brothel?
Proving the prostitution charges in a court of law would seem to hurt UL badly.
Interesting development.
Assembly Hall
10-30-2015, 03:41 PM
Apparently the Commonwealth Attorney of Louisville has issued subpoenas.
He's a UL undergrad and law school grad.
Wonder if he's trying to protect Lil Brothel?
Proving the prostitution charges in a court of law would seem to hurt UL badly.
Interesting development.
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2015/10/30/commonwealths-attorney-subpoenas-ibj-book-publisher-others-in-u-of-l-book-case/74876200/
Assembly Hall
11-03-2015, 08:49 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25358505/grand-jury-subpoenas-issued-in-connection-to-louisville-sex-scandal
Assembly Hall
11-12-2015, 07:09 PM
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/14113128/katina-powell-speak-ncaa-investigators-next-week-allegations-louisville-cardinals-men-basketball-team
Falls City Beer
11-14-2015, 07:05 PM
Even if absolutely nothing happened and Powell fabricated the whole thing, the NCAA will likely look for a scalp to collect out of this. They're witch hunters, nothing more. They exorcise demons and keep the gravy train rolling. Justice isn't on the menu.
Chip R
03-16-2016, 09:18 PM
Pitino has thrown McGee under the bus.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14976079/louisville-cardinals-coach-rick-pitino-said-had-people-place-prevent-scandal?ex_cid=espnfb
RedTeamGo!
03-16-2016, 10:00 PM
I like how Pitino said "Andre McGee" approximately 7,305 times.
WVRed
06-17-2016, 12:56 PM
Big news today:
Kentucky governor Matt Bevin has dissolved the UofL Board of Trustees and President James Ramsey is stepping down.
Bevin is also a UK grad, FWIW.
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Boston Red
06-17-2016, 11:18 PM
Interim chief in charge? A former Louisville basketball player.
WVRed
10-18-2016, 04:44 PM
NCAA is expected to announce on Thursday:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/report-ncaas-charges-against-louisville-coming-thursday-2013-title-in-danger/
Thoughts?
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Boston Red
10-18-2016, 04:53 PM
Slap on the wrist in addition to the nuclear option Louisville imposed on itself last year.
BluegrassRedleg
10-18-2016, 11:44 PM
Could not be happening to a more depraved athletics department.
cumberlandreds
10-19-2016, 08:43 AM
Pitino will get a few games off like Boeheim did last year. But other than that, nothing. The NCAA will accept their self punishment as enough and then go and ban SW Popcorn State from the NCAA's for the rest of the century.
WVRed
10-19-2016, 09:01 AM
Pitino will get a few games off like Boeheim did last year. But other than that, nothing. The NCAA will accept their self punishment as enough and then go and ban SW Popcorn State from the NCAA's for the rest of the century.
The NCAA is wildly inconsistent that I wouldn't be shocked to see Pitino suspended the whole season or nothing else done.
Chip R
10-19-2016, 09:04 AM
I think it will be a slap on the wrist. Maybe the loss of a scholarship for a couple of years. Pitino will not be punished.
Boston Red
10-19-2016, 09:11 AM
I think it will be a slap on the wrist. Maybe the loss of a scholarship for a couple of years. Pitino will not be punished.
Louisville already docked themselves a few scholarships.
WVRed
10-19-2016, 10:16 AM
I think it will be a slap on the wrist. Maybe the loss of a scholarship for a couple of years. Pitino will not be punished.
Didn't everybody say the same thing about Tressel and then they got a bowl ban? That's what I'm saying, the NCAA is so inconsistent.
It should be a slap on the wrist, but who knows
Chip R
10-19-2016, 11:39 AM
Didn't everybody say the same thing about Tressel and then they got a bowl ban? That's what I'm saying, the NCAA is so inconsistent.
It should be a slap on the wrist, but who knows
I'm guessing they don't have a smoking gun connecting Pitino to all this.
Boston Red
10-19-2016, 11:42 AM
I'm guessing they don't have a smoking gun connecting Pitino to all this.
Which is a pity.
Assembly Hall
10-19-2016, 01:39 PM
I'm guessing they don't have a smoking gun connecting Pitino to all this.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=4392828
Boston Red
10-19-2016, 01:53 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=4392828
I'm not sure how this is relevant. Pitino took that case to the authorities because he was being blackmailed.
Assembly Hall
10-19-2016, 02:00 PM
I'm not sure how this is relevant. Pitino took that case to the authorities because he was being blackmailed.
He has baggage. And it involved sex.
Boston Red
10-19-2016, 02:51 PM
He has baggage. And it involved sex.
Yes, but his own sex.
Chip R
10-19-2016, 03:02 PM
He has baggage. And it involved sex.
That is irrelevant to this case. If a coach has an affair with someone does that mean he's involved with any unrelated scandals with his program?
Assembly Hall
10-19-2016, 04:00 PM
That is irrelevant to this case. If a coach has an affair with someone does that mean he's involved with any unrelated scandals with his program?
And Bobby Petrino says hello!!!!!!!!!
Chip R
10-19-2016, 04:12 PM
And Bobby Petrino says hello!!!!!!!!!
Again, irrelevant to this case.
Boston Red
10-19-2016, 04:15 PM
And Bobby Petrino says hello!!!!!!!!!
What does Bobby Petrino have to do with this?
Assembly Hall
10-19-2016, 04:17 PM
Smoking gun gentlemen......smoking gun
Boston Red
10-19-2016, 04:26 PM
Smoking gun gentlemen......smoking gun
Bobby Petrino banging an Arkansas volleyball player is a smoking gun connecting Rick Pitino to hiring hookers to "entertain" Louisville basketball recruits? I must not understand the smoking gun concept.
cumberlandreds
10-20-2016, 10:04 AM
Here's the NCAA's charges. Like I said Pitino will probably be suspended a few games and that will be it. There is a chance he gets a show cause penalty but not likely IMO.
http://www.wdrb.com/story/33435708/crawford-ncaa-alleges-major-violations-against-mcgee-pitino
WVRed
06-09-2017, 07:44 AM
Investigation revealed from the audit of the U of L foundation:
Some of the juiciest findings from the audit of the UofL Foundation
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/some-of-the-juiciest-findings-from-the-audit-of-the-uofl-foundation/
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BillDoran
06-11-2017, 10:17 AM
Investigation revealed from the audit of the U of L foundation:
Some of the juiciest findings from the audit of the UofL Foundation
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/some-of-the-juiciest-findings-from-the-audit-of-the-uofl-foundation/
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Wow. That is some egregious behavior. If folks like Dr. Ramsey and his cronies don't end up in jail (I'm sure they won't), I don't know what we build jails for.
To think that these activities coincided with some unprecedented athletic success makes an already questionable athletic department (hookers for recruits, Bobby F'n Petrino) even more suspect (though I know the recent revelations don't necessarily include the sports directly, hard to think the administration wasn't at the very least willing to look the other way).
cumberlandreds
06-15-2017, 09:45 AM
Per multiple Tweets the NCAA is going to announce their findings at 11 am. NCAA has a presser at noon followed by a UL presser at 12:30 pm.
Assembly Hall
06-15-2017, 10:57 AM
Per multiple Tweets the NCAA is going to announce their findings at 11 am. NCAA has a presser at noon followed by a UL presser at 12:30 pm.
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2017/06/15/ncaa-announce-louisville-basketball-infractions-case-ruling-today/394461001/
Boston Red
06-15-2017, 11:20 AM
Not particularly clear at first whether Louisville is being forced to vacate its '13 title or not.
Chip R
06-15-2017, 12:07 PM
They really dropped the hammer on them. And by hammer, I mean one of those little toy hammers that makes a glass breaking sound when you hit it.
BillDoran
06-15-2017, 12:11 PM
The NCAA is such a sham.
Boston Red
06-15-2017, 12:17 PM
They really dropped the hammer on them. And by hammer, I mean one of those little toy hammers that makes a glass breaking sound when you hit it.
What would you have expected? A postseason ban, a five game coach's suspension and possibly vacating a national title seems like a pretty sharp jab to the eye.
Bourgeois Zee
06-15-2017, 12:22 PM
What would you have expected? A postseason ban, a five game coach's suspension and possibly vacating a national title seems like a pretty sharp jab to the eye.
Possibly vacating the title?
If the players are ineligible, how is the title not coming down?
(And, as an addendum, how the hell is North Carolina still skating completely free on 20+ years of academic malfeasance? Is stone-walling actually going to work there? Were I any university hit with any sanctions, I'd be all over the microphone complaining about unfair treatment.)
Boston Red
06-15-2017, 12:29 PM
Possibly vacating the title?
If the players are ineligible, how is the title not coming down?
I don't disagree, but the NCAA was clear as mud on this particular issue today.
Boston Red
06-15-2017, 12:31 PM
(And, as an addendum, how the hell is North Carolina still skating completely free on 20+ years of academic malfeasance? Is stone-walling actually going to work there? Were I any university hit with any sanctions, I'd be all over the microphone complaining about unfair treatment.)
Because their situation is unique. And because it goes beyond sports. It's really interesting (read: disturbing) to me that the only reason anyone seems to care about what happened at UNC is because of the effect on sports teams.
cumberlandreds
06-15-2017, 01:31 PM
They really dropped the hammer on them. And by hammer, I mean one of those little toy hammers that makes a glass breaking sound when you hit it.
It was a pretty big hammer. They are probably going to have to vacate very win for about four seasons. That includes a national title which is unprecedented in college basketball. They also have to give back four years worth of NCAA tournament money which isn't insignificant. Plus a reduction in scholarships. The only bigger hammer that could have come down would have been the death penalty and NCAA is never doing that again.
bucksfan2
06-15-2017, 01:37 PM
It was a pretty big hammer. They are probably going to have to vacate very win for about four seasons. That includes a national title which is unprecedented in college basketball. They also have to give back four years worth of NCAA tournament money which isn't insignificant. Plus a reduction in scholarships. The only bigger hammer that could have come down would have been the death penalty and NCAA is never doing that again.
Pitino should have been fired. I get tired of watching his sanctimonious act on the sidelines. I will be glad when the old guard of college basketball is finally gone. Its tiring to see these guys continue to operate outside of the lines and all of a sudden get shocked whenever they get called onto the carpet.
As for UNC, I can't speak to what Boston Red said, but how Roy Williams continues to keep his job during this academic scandal and the NCAA continues to allow the mens basketball team to compete as is with no punishment is beyond me. As for UNC, I don't care about what happens in the general classroom. The only place that I care about the classroom is OSU and how it effects my degree, UC and how it effects my wife's degree, and where my kids end up going. I don't for a second believe Ol' Roy knew nothing about the sham classes his players were taking in order to stay eligible.
BillDoran
06-15-2017, 01:47 PM
It was a pretty big hammer. They are probably going to have to vacate very win for about four seasons. That includes a national title which is unprecedented in college basketball. They also have to give back four years worth of NCAA tournament money which isn't insignificant. Plus a reduction in scholarships. The only bigger hammer that could have come down would have been the death penalty and NCAA is never doing that again.
Vacating wins is a joke. I'm sure folks in Ann Arbor are just ecstatic right now. Same thing with Ohio State and Tressel retroactively losing those games. It changes absolutely nothing for me as a fan. Even Wikipedia provides the asterisk and context.
Money matters, but when you've got boosters like any big time college program, you can just print more.
The only meaningful punishment is Pitino's suspension and the scholarship reduction. One scholarship for two seasons and five early season games for coordinating prostitutes for recruits. Buying sex for 17 and 18-year-old kids so they'll come play basketball at your school. Insane.
I ain't mad at Louisville; just how big of a joke the NCAA is. Burn it, FIFA and the Olympics Committee to the ground.
cumberlandreds
06-15-2017, 01:54 PM
Pitino should have been fired. I get tired of watching his sanctimonious act on the sidelines. I will be glad when the old guard of college basketball is finally gone. Its tiring to see these guys continue to operate outside of the lines and all of a sudden get shocked whenever they get called onto the carpet.
As for UNC, I can't speak to what Boston Red said, but how Roy Williams continues to keep his job during this academic scandal and the NCAA continues to allow the mens basketball team to compete as is with no punishment is beyond me. As for UNC, I don't care about what happens in the general classroom. The only place that I care about the classroom is OSU and how it effects my degree, UC and how it effects my wife's degree, and where my kids end up going. I don't for a second believe Ol' Roy knew nothing about the sham classes his players were taking in order to stay eligible.
The NCAA can't fire a coach. They can suspend him. I could see a longer suspension no doubt probably should have been made. I think it reflects really bad on a school to have a coach who has been involved in two sex scandals during his tenure and basically not do anything about the situation.
Larry Schuler
06-15-2017, 01:56 PM
Because their situation is unique. And because it goes beyond sports. It's really interesting (read: disturbing) to me that the only reason anyone seems to care about what happened at UNC is because of the effect on sports teams.
Read the Facebook comments on any article involving an athlete and domestic violence or sexual assault claims. It will depress your soul.
cumberlandreds
06-15-2017, 01:58 PM
Vacating wins is a joke. I'm sure folks in Ann Arbor are just ecstatic right now. Same thing with Ohio State and Tressel retroactively losing those games. It changes absolutely nothing for me as a fan. Even Wikipedia provides the asterisk and context.
Money matters, but when you've got boosters like any big time college program, you can just print more.
The only meaningful punishment is Pitino's suspension and the scholarship reduction. One scholarship for two seasons and five early season games for coordinating prostitutes for recruits. Buying sex for 17 and 18-year-old kids so they'll come play basketball at your school. Insane.
I ain't mad at Louisville; just how big of a joke the NCAA is. Burn it, FIFA and the Olympics Committee to the ground.
I agree on the surface vacating is a joke. The punishment is mostly the humiliation of having to do that. Like I said, its unprecedented for a college basketball national championship to be vacated. How would you like being known as the first and so far only school to have that done?
WVRed
06-15-2017, 02:19 PM
It was a pretty big hammer. They are probably going to have to vacate very win for about four seasons. That includes a national title which is unprecedented in college basketball. They also have to give back four years worth of NCAA tournament money which isn't insignificant. Plus a reduction in scholarships. The only bigger hammer that could have come down would have been the death penalty and NCAA is never doing that again.
Pitino getting only five games is why it's questionable. Especially when you consider what Boeheim got for less.
And it's not even 100% set in stone that the wins are going to be vacated either. The NCAA had an opportunity to set an example and they failed.
BillDoran
06-15-2017, 02:20 PM
I agree on the surface vacating is a joke. The punishment is mostly the humiliation of having to do that. Like I said, its unprecedented for a college basketball national championship to be vacated. How would you like being known as the first and so far only school to have that done?
I would think about how good Russ Smith was and how well Luke Hancock played down the stretch.
Vacating wins, that's just the price of doing big college sports business these days.
The NCAA is the enabler of all that is awful in college football and basketball. If they were remotely serious about their stated mission, they'd provide consistent and severe punishment for buying hookers for recruits, the academic scandal at UNC, the booster money that is everywhere, etc.
Either the NCAA is on the take or they are the most incompetently run organization known to man.
Bourgeois Zee
06-15-2017, 02:45 PM
Either the NCAA is on the take or they are the most incompetently run organization known to man.
It's a good-ole boy network of the worst order with clear favorites who receive preferential treatment.
Duke can play an ineligible player for a championship season, and it's ignored. Players can wear a $70,000 dollar necklace, and it gets ignored. Parents can receive jobs from the university they are unqualified for, and it's ignored. Coach K? Ignores federal law in favor of playing a two-time sexual assaulter until it gets so bad he's forced to do something.
UNC can play ineligible players for 20+ years, and it gets ignored. Williams paid players at Kansas and got away with it. He's the coach at the center of the biggest academic scandal in the history of the game, and he's a paragon of freakin' virtue, according to the NCAA.
Meanwhile, Calipari nearly gets probation for celebrating his supposed 500th win as a coach (http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/31836/ncaa-calls-john-caliparis-win-total-wrong). And, before the Cal Haters dig in, remember that his teams have been punished. Rose was ineligible for one ACT score (maybe), and the banner came down. Camby received 'thousands of dollars" from an agent, and the banner came down.
Pitino lorded over a program where strippers and hookers were brought in to service both prospects and their fathers. (Eww.) They played ineligible players who were given extra benefits. (Again, eww.) These banners should come down. (And look like they are.)
It's patently ridiculous.
RiverRat13
06-15-2017, 03:10 PM
There is little doubt that UNC will get the hammer from the NCAA. The real theater in that deal will be a couple of years down the road when UNC takes the NCAA to court.
Bourgeois Zee
06-15-2017, 03:53 PM
There is little doubt that UNC will get the hammer from the NCAA.
I have serious doubts.
They've never been willing to punish them before despite obvious issues.
WVRed
06-15-2017, 08:57 PM
I have serious doubts.
They've never been willing to punish them before despite obvious issues.
And even if it does, UNC is the type who will Tom Brady it.
I still think the NCAA mucked it up. A real example would have been a season long suspension. If Sean Payton can get a year long suspension by the NFL for putting bounties out to injure players, it wouldn't be unreasonable to suggest the same for Pitino, even though the situations are different.
bounty37h
06-16-2017, 09:55 AM
Smoking gun gentlemen......smoking gun
I think they probably had to pay the ladies extra to perform the smoking gun on the players. Esp if they wanted the gun to shoot.
I thought Cam Newton being able to continue playing was a low point for the NCAA. Then I thought it was the UNC scandal. This is a new one.
Bourgeois Zee
06-16-2017, 12:29 PM
I thought Cam Newton being able to continue playing was a low point for the NCAA. Then I thought it was the UNC scandal. This is a new one.
You believe Hooker-gate is worse than the UNC academic scandal?
I get that. The "eww" factor is horribly high.
That said, UNC has been handing out faux classes and degrees for 20+ years.
IMO, time matters.
Boston Red
06-16-2017, 12:35 PM
I think the academic scandal at UNC is far worse, because it's not "just" an athletics thing. They devalued the degrees of a bunch of UNC alums who didn't even know UNC had an African American studies department, much less took one of the paper classes.
I think the UofL hooker thing is pretty gross and stupid, but I think it's far from the worst thing I've heard about in college sports. It's not the worst thing I've heard about in college sports this month even.
Bourgeois Zee
06-16-2017, 12:45 PM
I think the academic scandal at UNC is far worse, because it's not "just" an athletics thing. They devalued the degrees of a bunch of UNC alums who didn't even know UNC had an African American studies department, much less took one of the paper classes.
I think the UofL hooker thing is pretty gross and stupid, but I think it's far from the worst thing I've heard about in college sports. It's not the worst thing I've heard about in college sports this month even.
I think it's among the worst, for sure. "Making" under-age kids have sex crosses a major line.
That said, I agree that the UNC gig is horrid for those reasons you list.
At this point, I'd argue the worst NCAA scandals of all time rank:
1. Penn State turning a blind eye to raping children for 30 years.
2. Baylor coach and all-around scumbag Dave Bliss instructing his players to lie about the murder of Patrick Denehy.
3. North Carolina's academic malfeasance. (Which is made worse by their continuing stonewalling of NCAA invesigators from the top down AND their success on the basketball court. The NCAA knows they (the university and the coaching staff) are dirty, but allowes them to continue to play without punishment.)
4. Louisville's Hooker-Gate.
5. Baylor football's sexual violence issue and Art Briles' refusal to do anything about it despite knowing what happened. This one gets extra credit because it's supposedly a Christian-based school and the sanctimonious hypocrisy of Ken Starr.
RiverRat13
06-16-2017, 03:04 PM
There is little doubt that UNC will get the hammer from the NCAA. The real theater in that deal will be a couple of years down the road when UNC takes the NCAA to court.
FWIW, Jay Bilas said something very similar this morning on Mike and Mike. He also said the NCAA will lose big to UNC once it gets to federal court.
Chip R
06-16-2017, 03:13 PM
I think it's among the worst, for sure. "Making" under-age kids have sex crosses a major line.
That said, I agree that the UNC gig is horrid for those reasons you list.
At this point, I'd argue the worst NCAA scandals of all time rank:
1. Penn State turning a blind eye to raping children for 30 years.
2. Baylor coach and all-around scumbag Dave Bliss instructing his players to lie about the murder of Patrick Denehy.
3. North Carolina's academic malfeasance. (Which is made worse by their continuing stonewalling of NCAA invesigators from the top down AND their success on the basketball court. The NCAA knows they (the university and the coaching staff) are dirty, but allowes them to continue to play without punishment.)
4. Louisville's Hooker-Gate.
5. Baylor football's sexual violence issue and Art Briles' refusal to do anything about it despite knowing what happened. This one gets extra credit because it's supposedly a Christian-based school and the sanctimonious hypocrisy of Ken Starr.
I'd switch 3 and 4 but otherwise I think you're spot on. I think plying underage recruits and their fathers with hookers is more reprehensible than academic fraud. For one thing thing, prostitution is illegal although a victimless crime. For another thing underage kids and their fathers were involved in this all with university money. I'm sure the good citizens of the Commonwealth don't want their taxes and contributions to the school to go towards using hookers to recruit athletes. I realize that coeds have been used at schools in the past to help recruits make up their minds but they aren't actual hookers. One could say they are prostituting themselves but that's semantics. As for academic fraud, while reprehensible, that's gone on since colleges started playing sports. Back around the turn of the century, it wasn't uncommon to have players on college football teams that weren't even students at the university. And I think we've all seen players in the past (and probably the present) that couldn't have got through college without some help be it tutoring or actual grade fixing.
Falls City Beer
06-17-2017, 06:19 PM
The reason they can't and won't go after UNC is that academic fraud is universal. It's everywhere. NCAA can't open that can of worms. They'd never get it closed again. What happened at UL is more anomalous and isolated.
Between this and using the UL Foundation as a personal piggy bank for himself and his son, the fact that Jurich still has a job is stupefying...
He really is the most powerful man in Louisville, it appears.
If those shenanigans had gone on at UK, I would demand the entire administration/coaching staff be fired. (But it would've already happened long ago...)
On that note, if Louisville had done the right thing from the start and cleaned house, they very well might have been allowed to keep their banners.
Furthermore, although he regularly makes insane/dumb comments, the fact that Pitino decided it was a good idea to hold a press conference TRASHING the NCAA less than an hour after the penalties were announced was dumbfounding. It's not like that stunt engendered any sympathy from anyone... I guarantee you that every potential member of the committee who will hear their appeal was watching, and I can't imagine they were amused.
Surely UL's legal counsel warned against such a stunt... but, then again, UL did try to make the legal argument that the cheapness of the prostitutes should've been a mitigating factor in their case, so who knows...:laugh:
My question is where are the civil lawsuits from the recruits? One recruit was even pressured into sleeping with a prostitute... if that was my child, I'd be suing UL's ASS off.
Assembly Hall
06-19-2017, 01:11 PM
The reason they can't and won't go after UNC is that academic fraud is universal.
It happened where I went to school and that was back in 1985.
Chip R
07-10-2018, 09:48 PM
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/07/10/former-louisville-basketball-players-sue-ncaa-2013-championship/771494002/#/questions
Boston Red
08-10-2018, 02:41 PM
You cannot make this stuff up: http://www.espn.com/horse-racing/story/_/id/24341123/ex-louisville-cardinals-coach-rick-pitino-owns-horse-named-party-dancer
WVRed
09-04-2018, 08:14 PM
Rick Pitinos new book is out, and here is a highly biased but funny critique by KSRs Drew Franklin:
KSR Book Club: Review “Pitino: My Story”http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/ksr-book-club-review-of-pitino-my-story/
The book is being pushed by Pitbull. Yes, that Pitbull.
Chip R
10-02-2018, 10:05 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/opening-statements-college-hoops-corruption-trial-drag-oregon-fray-reveal-strategies-174516177.html
Chip R
09-18-2019, 10:20 AM
U of L and Pitino have reached a settlement. U of L calls Pitino's departure a resignation but they won't owe him any money.
https://amp.courier-journal.com/amp/2354450001
Boston Red
09-18-2019, 11:32 AM
U of L and Pitino have reached a settlement. U of L calls Pitino's departure a resignation but they won't owe him any money.
https://amp.courier-journal.com/amp/2354450001
Pitino got every penny he deserved in that settlement.
Kingspoint
12-04-2019, 10:46 AM
They put banners back up last night during the game.
Boston Red
12-04-2019, 10:57 AM
They put banners back up last night during the game.
I think it was just a banner for MOP in three final fours. Darrell Griffith from 1980, Pervis Ellison from 1986 and Luke Hancock from 2013. Unless I missed something, I don't think they put the actual title banner back up.
Kingspoint
12-04-2019, 03:56 PM
I think it was just a banner for MOP in three final fours. Darrell Griffith from 1980, Pervis Ellison from 1986 and Luke Hancock from 2013. Unless I missed something, I don't think they put the actual title banner back up.
Correct. But, the ceremony was symbolic, especially because Hancock was one of those who sued and won. His name going up is similar to the 2013 title banner going up, and I believe it went into the same spot.
Boston Red
12-04-2019, 04:01 PM
Oh, it was definitely an F-U. But Hancock's MOP award stands, so there's nothing the NCAA can really do about it.
Assembly Hall
12-04-2019, 07:25 PM
I see Louisville made an offer to a guy in my neck of the woods. Hope he goes elsewhere.
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