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klw
05-01-2016, 12:03 PM
new-look #Reds lineup:
Cozart 6,
Hamilton 8,
Votto 3,
Phillips 4,
Bruce 9,
Suarez 5,
Duvall 7,
Barnhart 2,
Adleman 1


Joel Luckhaupt ‏@jluckhaupt 2h2 hours ago

Tim Adleman will be the 8th #Reds SP to make his MLB debut since the start of 2015. Reds had 8 SP MLB debuts from 2008 to 2014 combined.

Joel Luckhaupt ‏@jluckhaupt 2h2 hours ago

Tim Adleman will be the 8th starting pitcher used by the #Reds in 2016 (it's May 1st!). In 2012-2013 combined, Reds used 9 total SP.


Radar looks okay, no great but okay
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C. Trent Rosecrans ‏@ctrent 42m42 minutes ago
C. Trent Rosecrans Retweeted Todd McGraw

the tarp is off and it doesn’t seem to be raining at the moment, but i don’t predict the future

klw
05-01-2016, 12:44 PM
This is the free game on mlb.com today.

'69
05-01-2016, 01:35 PM
Reds bats will come alive today. I'd Rather see Suarez, Phillips, then Bruce, 4-6

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 01:39 PM
Hamilton with a double down the left field line

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 01:39 PM
Billy Billy Billy!

Kilgore_Trout
05-01-2016, 01:40 PM
Mr. Welsh is right about Billy. He appears to have much quicker hands from the right side.

TheTimeIsNow
05-01-2016, 01:40 PM
Billy is unstoppable against the Buccos.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 01:41 PM
Hamilton steals 3rd

Chuckie
05-01-2016, 01:42 PM
What is Votto doing?

tomnuetten
05-01-2016, 01:42 PM
wow those pirates uniforms are ugly...

OnBaseMachine
05-01-2016, 01:43 PM
The Pirates uniforms are incredible .

Votto still doesn't look like Votto. I've never seen so many check swings from him.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 01:43 PM
What is Votto doing?
The inside pitch got him again.

Chuckie
05-01-2016, 01:43 PM
George Grande announcing = my TV on mute.

KYRedsFan
05-01-2016, 01:43 PM
Swing the bat Joey

Gandalf the Red
05-01-2016, 01:43 PM
Pretty sure Jon Snow warged into Joey Votto. Explains why our first baseman is more focused on the coming ice zombie invasion than hitting a baseball.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 01:44 PM
Hamilton is left stranded at 3rd. 0-0 mid 1st

Chuckie
05-01-2016, 01:44 PM
A weak fly ball is all Joey needed to get the run in. Have to protect the plate better than that.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 01:47 PM
Tim Adleman makes his MLB and Reds debut, sporting the #68 previously worn by Didi Gregorius and Eric Valent.

Gandalf the Red
05-01-2016, 01:47 PM
Well, I already like this kid better than Simon and Hoover.

Raisor
05-01-2016, 01:48 PM
Adelman already doing better than Simon

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 01:48 PM
95 MPH for Adleman on the last pitch

757690
05-01-2016, 01:49 PM
Pretty sure Jon Snow warged into Joey Votto before he died. Explains why our first baseman is more focused on the coming ice zombie invasion than hitting a baseball.

Jon Snow never died. At least that is what my 15 year niece told me.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 01:49 PM
wow those pirates uniforms are ugly...

They are replicas of their uniforms from the 70's and early 80's. The Pirates were a very strong club in those days.

757690
05-01-2016, 01:50 PM
Btw, Marty, true to form, loves the Pirates vintage uniforms.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 01:50 PM
McCutcheon strikes out swinging

757690
05-01-2016, 01:50 PM
They are replicas of their uniforms from the 70's and early 80's. The Pirates were a very strong club in those days.


https://youtu.be/eBpYgpF1bqQ

klw
05-01-2016, 01:50 PM
Odd that he is working from the stretch with no one on. You see relievers doing that all the time but it strikes me as unusual for a starter.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 01:51 PM
Adleman is our ace now.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 01:51 PM
Nice start to the day for Adleman. 1-2-3 in the 1st

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 01:52 PM
Very nice to see that at least so far, Adleman is throwing strikes as (I) advertised.

tomnuetten
05-01-2016, 01:52 PM
They are replicas of their uniforms from the 70's and early 80's. The Pirates were a very strong club in those days.

I know that.. but they are still ugly ;)

now I found Game of thrones spoiler in the gamethreads... But to return the favor, in the books jon snow is still alive ;)

Gandalf the Red
05-01-2016, 01:53 PM
Adleman is our ace now.

He's like the Galactica after the Cylon invasion wiped out most of the pitchers across the 12 Colonies.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 01:58 PM
Duvall flies out to the track in right center. Reds go down 1-2-3. 0-0 mid 2nd

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 01:59 PM
Reds offense still dormant, though Duvall put a pretty good charge into one.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:01 PM
Hamilton makes the catch against the wall

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:03 PM
Polanco singles tries to stretch it into a double and is thrown out at 2nd by Hamilton

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:04 PM
what was Polanco thinking?

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:05 PM
2nd K for Adleman. 0-0 after 2

reds1869
05-01-2016, 02:05 PM
I really hope Billy gets his Gold Glove this year.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:05 PM
I don't want to overhype him, but Tim Adleman is better than 10 Super Bowls.

PXShaman
05-01-2016, 02:06 PM
Bah HumBug about butterflies.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:09 PM
Adelman reaches on a bad throw even though he was half jogging to 1st

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:10 PM
Jeez, Chris getting on Adleman for not busting it down the line. Who cares?

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:10 PM
5-4-3 DP ends the inning. 0-0 mid 3rd

Raisor
05-01-2016, 02:10 PM
Adelman reaches on a bad throw even though he was half jogging to 1st

He used his telepathy to bamboozle the defense

tomnuetten
05-01-2016, 02:11 PM
Adelman reaches on a bad throw even though he was half jogging to 1st

missed the bag, the 1b shouldn´t have gone to the ball aswell (easy ball for the 2B ), bad throw, late start from the pitcher..

that was bad in all categories ;)

klw
05-01-2016, 02:15 PM
missed the bag, the 1b shouldn´t have gone to the ball aswell (easy ball for the 2B ), bad throw, late start from the pitcher..

that was bad in all categories ;)

Clearly Adelman was using his Jedi mind tricks but it would have been easier to just direct the ball into the OF for a clean hit.

Cannon
05-01-2016, 02:16 PM
I like that Adleman throws a lot of strikes.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:16 PM
Can Adleman teach the rest of the pitchers how to throw first pitch strikes?

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:16 PM
Nasty curve there. 3 Ks for Adleman

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:17 PM
Adleman looking good another 1-2-3 inning

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:18 PM
9 up, 9 down for Adleman.

BCubb2003
05-01-2016, 02:18 PM
More like Tim Able-man ...

KYRedsFan
05-01-2016, 02:22 PM
Good god Joey. . Swing the bat

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:22 PM
Joey had been looking good the last several games, not so much today.

Cannon
05-01-2016, 02:23 PM
Something I don't get is if this whole pounding the inside of the plate thing is the "trick" to dealing with Votto why has it taken this long for pitchers to try it so consistently? Or is it just an issue he's having with his new adjustments in his swing?

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:23 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3 in the 4th

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:24 PM
Something I don't get is if this whole pounding the inside of the plate thing is the "trick" to dealing with Votto why has it taken this long for pitchers to try it so consistently? Or is it just an issue he's having with his new adjustments in his swing?
It does seem strange that after nearly a decade of dominance that all of these teams have seemingly figured out how to neutralize one of the games best hitters. I think it's just something Votto has to adjust to, which I believe he will, but it probably won't occur overnight.

mth123
05-01-2016, 02:26 PM
second time through the order now. If he gets rocked its still an improvement over others

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:27 PM
Nice play by Phillips

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:28 PM
DatDude looking more like himself of late after some miscues the first few weeks of the season.

Cannon
05-01-2016, 02:29 PM
Yep really nice play by Phillips. Maybe getting hit on the hand had a "Rookie of the Year" type effect on him. :D

757690
05-01-2016, 02:31 PM
Second time through the lineup. A good test.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2016, 02:33 PM
4 Ks for Adleman

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:33 PM
Harrison takes some Frazier like swings.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:36 PM
George seemed to think Adleman just threw a 93 mph breaking ball lol

Gandalf the Red
05-01-2016, 02:37 PM
Tim Adleman has discovered the Autobot Matrix of Leadership and is using it to light our darkest hour.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:38 PM
Tim Adleman and JC Ramirez will lead us into the next Reds boom period.

Cannon
05-01-2016, 02:39 PM
Tim Adleman has discovered the Autobot Matrix of Leadership and is using it to light our darkest hour.

He's got the touch!

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 02:41 PM
Regardless of how this finishes...color me impressed. His stuff is pretty decent but his control is excellent. Even when he throws a ball....it's because that's where Tucker set up.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:44 PM
Reds offense not giving Adleman a damn thing.

OnBaseMachine
05-01-2016, 02:45 PM
Something I don't get is if this whole pounding the inside of the plate thing is the "trick" to dealing with Votto why has it taken this long for pitchers to try it so consistently? Or is it just an issue he's having with his new adjustments in his swing?

I think the question should be, why change something in your swing? If in fact he did.

PXShaman
05-01-2016, 02:45 PM
He has thrown 3 bad pitches, and they have all been balls and 2 were to Cutch. He is doing everything good.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:47 PM
Polanco has Adleman's number. Long HR. 1-0 Bucs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 02:48 PM
Curse of the parental interview. :(

'69
05-01-2016, 02:49 PM
So, basically the same start as Melville's debut.

klw
05-01-2016, 02:49 PM
Well that was a looooooong homer

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 02:53 PM
Solo HR and a walk but no further damage. 5 innings, 2 hits, 2 walks, 6 strikeouts on 79 pitches so far.


I remember being told nobody in AAA could do that, while Simon could. ;)

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 02:55 PM
Somebody get the rum and call Jobu. We need to wake up these bats. 5 innings of 2 hit 1 run ball. That's damned good. Come on fellas, show Tim some support!!!

Alooohaz
05-01-2016, 02:55 PM
All the talk of the pitching weaknesses and the calvary waiting in the wings w/the injuries healing..... This team CANNOT HIT - been watching this lethargic offense for couple years now -- no clutch hitting, no SPARK, no comeback wins...jeez - I'm heading to beach !! Good luck boys - this must KILL the pitchers who pitch strong games for the Reds...and give up a run or 2...and DIE ON THE VINE !

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 02:59 PM
So, basically the same start as Melville's debut.

Melville was all over the place and getting hit harder.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:01 PM
Two runners on! A rally!?

Cannon
05-01-2016, 03:01 PM
Hamilton will get a bunt single and Votto will smash a grand salami.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:02 PM
Billy almost with another slap double down the line.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:04 PM
Oh god. Billy with a single to left that would have loaded them up, and Barnhart slipped and was out at third.

Just kill me fam.

- - - Updated - - -

Votto singles up the middle! 1-1 tie!

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 03:04 PM
Joey got tired of the pitcher pumping him with fat pitches and decided to do his thing.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:05 PM
Tough break for Tucker, but Votto comes through anyway! 1-1 ballgame

RedsManRick
05-01-2016, 03:07 PM
Was I the only one hoping Hamilton would steal home on one of those pitch-outs?

klw
05-01-2016, 03:07 PM
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/how-billy-hamilton-stole-joey-votto-five-bases/


The fact that this happened so early in the season was encouraging, but it turned out that hope was somewhat misleading, considering it didn’t happen again for another four months. But then, Votto took advantage of Hamilton’s presence on third base four times in a month near the end of the season, reinvigorating my desire for the Reds to do this every single time Hamilton is on third base with a runner at first next year. Even in the midst of a miserable season, Billy Hamilton was able to gift Joey Votto five steals, and gift the rest of us with an offseason of hope.

Donder
05-01-2016, 03:08 PM
Nice Bruce! Side note, has BP been thrown out as much as the rest of the team combined or is it my imagination?


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Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:08 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce delivers! 2 run double, but BP is out at home.

3-1 Redlegs.

klw
05-01-2016, 03:08 PM
two for tootblan

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:09 PM
Reds may challenge, on replay it looks closer than in real-time.

Nope, no challenge.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 03:09 PM
I thought Bruce would get stuff away....away....great job of hitting that high heat.

Tired of Phillips making outs when he has no reason to on the bases. Price continues with the "We will run at all times...no matter the day...no matter the time...no matter the enemy" motto.

BCubb2003
05-01-2016, 03:09 PM
"Phillips is on his horse, but it's a slow horse."

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:09 PM
BRUUUUUCE! 2 run ribeye! Brandon out at the dish on a great relay throw. 3-1 Reds

klw
05-01-2016, 03:11 PM
Pitt announcers questioning the Reds not challenging Phillips being called out at home.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:12 PM
Pitt announcers questioning the Reds not challenging Phillips being out at home.
I thought it might have been worthwhile, maybe BP told them it wasn't.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:13 PM
Adleman realizing that anything not over the fence in CF will be caught.

Donder
05-01-2016, 03:14 PM
If you had to pick an active Reds pitcher to start a game that your life depended on, it would have to be Adleman, right?


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_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:14 PM
Tim! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:17 PM
Scoreless 1-2-3 6th for Adleman, but some hard hit balls. Does Price send him back out to face Polanco again if he isn't pitch hit for?

I don't think I would, though admittedly I can't think of who I would want out there. Maybe Wood, Ohlendorf, Cotham in that order.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:19 PM
Scoreless 1-2-3 6th for Adleman, but some hard hit balls. Does Price send him back out to face Polanco again if he isn't pitch hit for?

I don't think I would, though admittedly I can't think of who I would want out there. Maybe Wood, Ohlendorf, Cotham in that order.

He's here to eat innings. Send him back out.

Single/error sends Tucker to 2nd. Now I'm not so sure....but he stays in there. Tim up with 1 on 2 down.

Donder
05-01-2016, 03:19 PM
Despite this losing streak, Branhart and Hamilton have been fun to watch lately.


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Alooohaz
05-01-2016, 03:20 PM
Reverse jinx.....

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:20 PM
Adleman hitting for himself with two out and Barnhart on 2nd after the error. Don't know about this, I probably would have sent up Pacheco.

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 03:20 PM
If you had to pick an active Reds pitcher to start a game that your life depended on, it would have to be Adleman, right?


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If actually making it to be mound heathy is figured in, I guess he is in play.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:22 PM
Adelman only at 88 pitches. Yeah, I definitely would've left him in. (I hadn't checked his pitch count previously)

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 03:23 PM
Don't care if he is starting tomorrow, get that Cueto montage out of here.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:25 PM
Adelman only at 88 pitches. Yeah, I definitely would've left him in. (I hadn't checked his pitch count previously)
Looked to be wearing down in the last inning though, not pumping first pitch strikes and some hard hit balls.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 03:26 PM
Don't care if he is starting tomorrow, get that Cueto montage out of here.

I want to beat the crap out of Johnny Cueto tomorrow. Mercilessly.

Ron Madden
05-01-2016, 03:27 PM
That wasn't that tough of a play

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:27 PM
Single up the middle by Harrison, I don't think BP was going to get him anyway.

Adleman yanked with Polanco coming up now.

PXShaman
05-01-2016, 03:27 PM
That Adelman smile at the end, pricess

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:27 PM
*standing O* :clap: :clap: :clap:

Well done rook.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 03:28 PM
Why is Price taking him out? He obviously won't be able to learn any lessons if he isn't given the opportunity to work out of trouble.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:32 PM
Impressive K of Polanco by Cingrani.

'69
05-01-2016, 03:32 PM
That was ugly, thought he had it for a second. Hope Duvall is ok.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:33 PM
Welp. Rodriguez crushes one to the wall and Duvall messes himself up something fierce going into the wall. Triple scores a run to make it 3-2.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:34 PM
A better outfielder probably catches that ball. Still, can't knock the effort or heart of Duvall there.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 03:34 PM
19 games in a row that the bullpen has given up at least one run.

Edit: That run belonged to Adleman, so the bullpen count is still at 18.

PXShaman
05-01-2016, 03:35 PM
He got the glove on the ball at least.

RedlegJake
05-01-2016, 03:35 PM
That run charged to Adleman. Unfortunately.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:36 PM
Duvall staying in the game. Tying run on 3rd with one out.

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 03:36 PM
If Grande says "stagger" one more time...

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:39 PM
What a shame. I was kinda enjoying seeing a Reds pitcher throw the ball over the plate for a change. *sigh*

RedlegJake
05-01-2016, 03:40 PM
Baseball is a weird game. 9 times out of 10 BP makes that play. And a better OFer makes that catch in left. But that's baseball.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:41 PM
There's the familiar walk from Cingrani. He's out, Cotham in. 1st and 3rd with one out.

RedTeamGo!
05-01-2016, 03:43 PM
Cingrani cannot pitch with inherited runners. At least it seems like it.

40YrRedsFan
05-01-2016, 03:43 PM
Cingrani has to develop a good second pitch, or he's not going to be around long. His breaking ball is poor. Needs a straight change.

Strikes Out Looking
05-01-2016, 03:44 PM
I hate this team right now. From the front office to the training staff to the 40th man on the roster.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:44 PM
Cotham gets one big out. But now he has to deal with Joyce, who took him deep last night.

Oh wait, that was Sean Rodriguez. Disregard.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:45 PM
Of freaking course. A broken bat bloop just out of Cozart's reach to score the tying run.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 03:45 PM
OK, now it's 19 games in a row that the bullpen has allowed at least one run.

'69
05-01-2016, 03:46 PM
19 games in a row that the bullpen has given up at least one run.

Edit: That run belonged to Adleman, so the bullpen count is still at 18.

There it is. As night follows day.

RedlegJake
05-01-2016, 03:47 PM
not 1 runner or run has been anything but bad luck this inning

40YrRedsFan
05-01-2016, 03:47 PM
Cotham gets one big out. But now he has to deal with Joyce, who took him deep last night.

Oh wait, that was Sean Rodriguez. Disregard.

It woulld be nice if the Reds had a 2nd lefty in the pen.........when you're bad, every thing goes wrong.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:48 PM
And Cotham gets Jaso swinging, one batter too late for that.

No W for Adleman. Reds can still get the W, but you have to figure that ain't happening unless they get a bullpen-proof lead.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 03:48 PM
Is this a record for most runs allowed by a bullpen in consecutive games?

Strikes Out Looking
05-01-2016, 03:49 PM
OK, now it's 19 games in a row that the bullpen has allowed at least one run.

It's on Dick, Walt and Bob. They are too cheap to stock the team with a bullpen and had no plan B for what happened if all the prospects got boo-boos on their bodies. Even when the Reds were contending 3 years ago, they were too tight to completely fill the bullpen with legitimate arms.

40YrRedsFan
05-01-2016, 03:50 PM
Well, who is going to give up the game losing HR today?

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:51 PM
Even when the Reds were contending 3 years ago, they were too tight to completely fill the bullpen with legitimate arms.
Chapman, Broxton, Marshall, LeCure, Parra, and even Hoover and Simon were pretty good. Not sure what the retroactive bashing is about.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:51 PM
Cozy with a double. Horribly played by Polanco.

*sigh* And now Cozart is leaving the game with a knee injury. He pointed to the OF like it happened on that dive for Joyce's flair.

Raisor
05-01-2016, 03:51 PM
Cozart injured

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 03:51 PM
Cozarts surgical knee apparently exploded.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 03:53 PM
I missed most of the middle innings. Has DeJesus already been used? Because I expected him to be the pinch-runner for Zack.

RedlegJake
05-01-2016, 03:53 PM
Cozart doubles but pulls something in his knee. Man, can things get worse?

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 03:53 PM
Glad I posted on the wrong thread. SMH

No luck today...geesh

Raisor
05-01-2016, 03:54 PM
Votto fails to bring in the runner by being intentionally walked

'69
05-01-2016, 03:54 PM
Is this a record for most runs allowed by a bullpen in consecutive games?

It was at least 1 run given up in 20 consecutive appearances in 1957

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:54 PM
I missed most of the middle innings. Has DeJesus already been used? Because I expected him to be the pinch-runner for Zack.
No DeJesus yet

40YrRedsFan
05-01-2016, 03:55 PM
BP squeeze?

Strikes Out Looking
05-01-2016, 03:55 PM
Chapman, Broxton, Marshall, LeCure, Parra, and even Hoover and Simon were pretty good. Not sure what the retroactive bashing is about.

I don't think they were ever all good at the same time. But I'll give you this, better than the dreck on the club today.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:55 PM
BP vs Jared Hughes. Wasn't that a rivalry a few years ago?

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:56 PM
Hughes. I hate this guy. I'd love to see us hammer him.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 03:56 PM
Cozart doubles but pulls something in his knee. Man, can things get worse?

Somebody in another thread said that last night that things can't get any worse. Things can always get worse, folks!

40YrRedsFan
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
BP fail

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
I don't think they were ever all good at the same time. But I'll give you this, better than the dreck on the club today.
Reds had the best bullpen in baseball in 2012 and 7th best in 2013. The problem wasn't the Reds not spending but rather trusting those guys to continue to produce.

Strikes Out Looking
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Was Cozart able to walk off the field on his own?

OnBaseMachine
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
What a dumb play. Reds got lucky.

Raisor
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Boom

Donder
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Just how they drew that play up. Hmm... Maybe it actually was?


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'69
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Finally some luck the Reds way

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 03:58 PM
omg what a disaster and it worked lmao

Raisor
05-01-2016, 03:58 PM
Was Cozart able to walk off the field on his own?

Helicopter

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 03:58 PM
Well, that was interesting! We used to run that play back in high school!

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 03:58 PM
Terrible by Pirates...easily had Votto tagged before run would've scored...then catcher dropped it for double luck

BCubb2003
05-01-2016, 03:58 PM
Productive TOOTBLAN.

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 03:59 PM
BP squeeze?

No, that would be too easy

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 03:59 PM
BP vs Jared Hughes. Wasn't that a rivalry a few years ago?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/20164632/pirates-reliever-jared-hughes-on-brandon-phillips-racism-claim-thats-not-who-i-am

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:00 PM
Price is going to use Hoover in the 9th if it's a save situation, isn't he?

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 04:00 PM
Was Cozart able to walk off the field on his own?

Yes. It looked like he might've tweeked something and is erring on the side of caution. Very mild limp.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:03 PM
Suarez 0-4 today but a solid 0-4, lots of hard grounders to well-positioned defenders.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:05 PM
Cotham remains in for the bottom 8. Tough challenge, McCutchen, Harrison and Marte due up.

Broken bat single for McCutchen. Here we go.

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 04:06 PM
8th inning reliever and lead off guy on? 7,000% chance tying run scores

Mutaman
05-01-2016, 04:06 PM
I put the odds of this lead holding up at 20-1.

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 04:07 PM
Marte beats us literally every game we play the Pirates.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:07 PM
Base hit by Marte, the lead is gone.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:08 PM
Cozart probably should lay off diving for a while

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:10 PM
I went from signing ... There's No Stopping Us...There's No Stoppin...No one does it bettor....... TO

I am tired. I am weary. I could sleep for a thousand years.

In a blink of a inning.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:10 PM
Price tasks Cotham with the IBB to put another runner on, cause that's exactly what we need, and now summons out Ohlendorf.

RedlegJake
05-01-2016, 04:11 PM
Pirates 8 regulars - lowest OPS is .780 - McCutcheon. 6 guys over .300 BA. Makes Adleman's game look even better.

Ron Madden
05-01-2016, 04:12 PM
The play at the plate was pretty close

RedlegJake
05-01-2016, 04:12 PM
Why does mlb.com think we want to see a replay of Halladay's playoff no no?

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:12 PM
Feel bad for Cotham, dude got dinked and dunked to death. But that's why strikeouts are so valuable.

Strikes Out Looking
05-01-2016, 04:12 PM
Might as well change the pitcher every batter until the end of the game. May not win it for the Reds but at least we'll be able to spread the blame.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:14 PM
Ohlendorf K's Rodriguez. One out to go, famous last words.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 04:15 PM
So Bruce is out. Duvall from left to right. Schebler in left. And Ross on the bump.

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 04:15 PM
So Bruce is out. Duvall from left to right. Schebler in left. And Ross on the bump.

I missed it...Bruce not injured is he?

Strikes Out Looking
05-01-2016, 04:17 PM
I missed it...Bruce not injured is he?

Traded.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:17 PM
Ohlendorf escapes the jam. 4-4 game after 8.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:17 PM
I missed it...Bruce not injured is he?

Why not? It's not a Reds party if another player isn't hurt.

RedlegJake
05-01-2016, 04:18 PM
No Bruce isn't inured - Price just wanted a non defensive replacement

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 04:18 PM
I missed it...Bruce not injured is he?

double switch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 04:20 PM
No Bruce isn't inured - Price just wanted a non defensive replacement

No kidding. I'd rather he just pinch-hit. His way made the defense worse.

RedlegJake
05-01-2016, 04:24 PM
Hoover or Wood for the 9th? Gun or pill for suicide?

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 04:25 PM
Hoover or Wood for the 9th? Gun or pill for suicide?

Hoover. Get it over quick.

klw
05-01-2016, 04:26 PM
Schebler will save us all!

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:27 PM
If there was ever a time for Schebler to run into one, now would be nice.

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 04:28 PM
Send Schebler to AAA!

Ron Madden
05-01-2016, 04:28 PM
Hoover or Wood for the 9th? Gun or pill for suicide?

Ohlendorf will pitch the 9th and get the win..

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:28 PM
Schebler delivered! 5-4 Redlegs on the double.

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 04:28 PM
I'm used to seeing better from Marte...frankly the Bucs should have nailed Duvall.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:29 PM
Honestly I'd leave Ohlendorf out for the 9th.

Big Klu
05-01-2016, 04:29 PM
I'm used to seeing better from Marte...frankly the Bucs should have nailed Duvall.

He missed the cutoff man.

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 04:30 PM
He missed the cutoff man.

Exactly.

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Honestly I'd leave Ohlendorf out for the 9th.

I can't argue. There is no wrong answer here.

Now there is no right answer either...

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 04:32 PM
Didn't think Schebler could hit anyone who threw over 90 mph

Good for him

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 04:34 PM
Most likely to happen:

1. First batter reaches
2. A HR is hit
3. Pirates win
4. Reds win

For me it's a tie of likelihood for #1-#3

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 04:34 PM
5-4 Redlegs. Time for Chapma.....*sigh*...nevermind. :(

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:35 PM
Good for Schebler. He was struggling big time.

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 04:36 PM
Reds have 1 save? lol that's as embarrassing as the Braves HR total

Kc61
05-01-2016, 04:37 PM
No kidding. I'd rather he just pinch-hit. His way made the defense worse.



Bruce currently has a UZR rating of -5.9 according to Fangraphs. This is the lowest UZR listed for any position player in the NL.

Jay is number 282 in UZR for the NL.

Using UZR/150, Jay is -37.2, number 242 in the league.

Surprising, I'd say.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:37 PM
Reds have 1 save? lol that's as embarrassing as the Braves HR total
Considering saves are an arbitrary stat, it's really not.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:38 PM
Schebler catches this one, unlike in New York.

Donder
05-01-2016, 04:38 PM
Star of the game is Adleman, runner up is Schebler. (Don't be a jinx don't be a jinx)


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40YrRedsFan
05-01-2016, 04:39 PM
Reds have 1 save on the year.....1........atrocious.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 04:39 PM
Well, Messrs. U, Z & R don't think so.

Jay Bruce currently has a UZR rating of -5.9 according to Fangraphs. This is the lowest UZR listed for any position player in the NL.

Jay is number 282 in UZR for the NL.

UZR is a counting stat so one can also look at UZR/150. There, Jay is -37.2, number 242 in the league.

Looking at the component parts of UZR, Jay's Range Runs are -3.4. Only Braun is lower in the NL. Also his ARM (outfield arm runs saved) is -2.2, the worst of any NL player listed.

Surprising, I'd say.

I'm certainly not saying you're wrong...but those numbers certainly don't jive with what my eyes see. Not at all.

Donder
05-01-2016, 04:41 PM
Of course.


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_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 04:41 PM
Reds have 1 save on the year.....1........atrocious.

One more out today...and they still will only have one as Ross would get the W.

*sigh* Or not. Dinger.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:42 PM
Well I've wasted my Sunday lol

Crumbley
05-01-2016, 04:42 PM
Beginning to think the bullpen might be an issue.

klw
05-01-2016, 04:42 PM
drat

Kc61
05-01-2016, 04:42 PM
I'm certainly not saying you're wrong...but those numbers certainly don't jive with what my eyes see. Not at all.

I think the numbers are accurate, I double checked them on Fangraphs. Feel free to check if you think I'm misreading in some way.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:43 PM
Jaso hit 5 HRs all year last year, he's hit two off the Reds in the last two days.

TheBigLebowski
05-01-2016, 04:43 PM
I HATE this team. Hate it.

40YrRedsFan
05-01-2016, 04:44 PM
No doubt about it....this team is cursed.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:44 PM
I am tired. I am weary. I can sleep for a thousand years.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:45 PM
It figures a player who looks like a clown in that uniform would beat this clown show of a bullpen.

traderumor
05-01-2016, 04:45 PM
I watched 1982 as an adolescent, so I don't remember the level of stink of that team real well, but this is a rival for the stinkiest Reds team I've had the misfortune to watch. And that includes the lost decade that opened GABP.

Crumbley
05-01-2016, 04:47 PM
They've managed to construct a bullpen without a single major leaguer. Whatever numbers famed stat whiz Dick Williams is looking at might be wrong.

_Sir_Charles_
05-01-2016, 04:47 PM
I think the numbers are accurate, I double checked them on Fangraphs. Feel free to check if you think I'm misreading in some way.

No, I don't doubt you. Just saying that rarely have I seen an advanced defensive stat that meshes with what my eyes see.

Just curious...since that stat is a judge on a players range...wouldn't Jay's be diminished simply because Billy takes so many more balls than other CF's do? It's not that Jay couldn't reach/catch those balls but rather that he's deferring to the CF'er like he's supposed to.

40YrRedsFan
05-01-2016, 04:47 PM
Extra innings almost guarantees a Hoover appearance.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:48 PM
They've managed to construct a bullpen without a single major leaguer. Whatever numbers famed stat whiz Dick Williams is looking at might be wrong.
Yeah cause he was really trying to build a juggernaut this season.

Ironman92
05-01-2016, 04:48 PM
Considering saves are an arbitrary stat, it's really not.

Yeah, probably a lot of teams with fewer than 3 saves

klw
05-01-2016, 04:49 PM
It figures a player who looks like a clown in that uniform would beat this clown show of a bullpen.

hey it is cute that the Pirates gave Kid Rock a chance to play today.

traderumor
05-01-2016, 04:49 PM
This team does nothing well and has not one good story worth watching.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:49 PM
Even the 1982 team was competetive until about game 60.... they were 26-27, then the cliff fell hard.

That pitch just basically darted right into Kid Rock's wheelhouse.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:50 PM
Yeah, probably a lot of teams with fewer than 3 saves
What do saves matter? You bludgeon your opponent and there's no saves. There are literally dozens of things to bash this poor team for before settling on their save total.

Crumbley
05-01-2016, 04:50 PM
Yeah cause he was really trying to build a juggernaut this season.
I didn't ask for a juggernaut, I asked for something on the fringes of competence.

klw
05-01-2016, 04:50 PM
On the plus side, it has been minutes since Grande has said that the Reds would not quit today.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:51 PM
hey it is cute that the Pirates gave Kid Rock a chance to play today.

Right as I was done posting the same thing I saw yours. I mean he looks like a joke but a good one, not the bad kind like this team.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:52 PM
I didn't ask for a juggernaut, I asked for something on the fringes of competence.
If not for about 5000 injuries maybe we could have that with guys like Straily and Adleman and Lorenzen in the pen. For now, it's a horror show. It's a rebuild, what are ya going to do?

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 04:52 PM
I'm certainly not saying you're wrong...but those numbers certainly don't jive with what my eyes see. Not at all.

To be fair...I don't see Bruce as the worst defender in the league...but I certainly view him as a subpar defender. You?

traderumor
05-01-2016, 04:53 PM
Yeah cause he was really trying to build a juggernaut this season.

That doesn't excuse anyone. They are not tanking while studs are developing. They are tanking because the organization went all in on pitching and have proven unable to develop bats. Go figure, the Reds inept at drafting and developing bats. Apocolyptic.

Tony Cloninger
05-01-2016, 04:54 PM
We knew what we were getting into.....we bought our tickets, MLB Packages and wasted our Sunday here...... I say, Let 'em crash.

Start sniffing glue everyone.

TheBigLebowski
05-01-2016, 04:54 PM
What do saves matter? You bludgeon your opponent and there's no saves. There are literally dozens of things to bash this poor team for before settling on their save total.

Would you agree that BLOWN saves matter?

Crumbley
05-01-2016, 04:54 PM
If not for about 5000 injuries maybe we could have that with guys like Straily and Adleman and Lorenzen in the pen. For now, it's a horror show. It's a rebuild, what are ya going to do?

JJ Hoover was the closer. It was never going to be any good. Reminds me of last year's excuses, where the lack of Manny Parra was holding us back.

kaldaniels
05-01-2016, 04:56 PM
I see Chris Heisey hit his 3rd homer today.

Tom Servo
05-01-2016, 04:56 PM
Would you agree that BLOWN saves matter?
Yeah.


JJ Hoover was the closer. It was never going to be any good. Reminds me of last year's excuses, where the lack of Manny Parra was holding us back.
You're talking to an A1 Hoover hater here, pal. He should have been flipped in the offseason. I'm not making excuses, the bullpen is bad and everyone in it should be put on notice. But it's a freaking rebuild, we're not competing for a World Series here. If we lose, SO WHAT?

CWRed
05-01-2016, 04:57 PM
Reds turn another easy out into a bloop single with the outfielders playing at the wall. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.