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Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:10 PM
Game time and no thread!

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:13 PM
Quick 1-2-3 first for Finnegan (6 pitches)

mth123
05-07-2016, 07:14 PM
6 Pitch first for Finnegan. Lets get the sticks out.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:17 PM
Cozart drives one out to the wall on the first pitch, but caught by Braun.

Billy walks(!)

mth123
05-07-2016, 07:19 PM
Billy with a walk.

Red Raindog
05-07-2016, 07:21 PM
Billy with a walk.

and a steal

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:25 PM
Questionable punchout of Votto.

Red Raindog
05-07-2016, 07:25 PM
and a steal

and a Votto K on a borderline pitch

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 07:26 PM
And THAT is why you send Billy to third. 1-0 Reds.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:26 PM
Billyball! 1-0 Redlegs after the BH steal and ball thrown into left.

Red Raindog
05-07-2016, 07:27 PM
and Billy kills them with speed

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Man - wish he could get on base more

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 07:29 PM
and Billy kills them with speed

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Man - wish he could get on base more

He's done a MUCH better job of that lately. I still wish they'd scrap the switch hitting thing.

757690
05-07-2016, 07:35 PM
Zach Buchanan on The radio just said that the Reds are tanking. He said the front office is not pitting the best team on the field, so that they will get a better draft pick next year. This was not his opinion, he was stating this as fact.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 07:35 PM
Zach Buchanan on The radio just said that the Reds are tanking. He said the front office is not pitting the best team on the field, so that they will get a better draft pick next year. This was not his opinion, he was stating this as fact.

What was Marty's response?

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:36 PM
Finnegan a groundball machine thus far, a scoreless second with just a Chris Carter single mixed in.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 07:37 PM
Finnegan a groundball machine thus far, a scoreless second with just a Chris Carter single mixed in.

And it was a ground single to CF.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:39 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce hammers a leadoff double

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 07:40 PM
Zach Buchanan on The radio just said that the Reds are tanking. He said the front office is not pitting the best team on the field, so that they will get a better draft pick next year. This was not his opinion, he was stating this as fact.

No. That was HIS OPINION. Marty & Jeff were speechless at first.

757690
05-07-2016, 07:41 PM
What was Marty's response?

He was not pleased to hear it, but didn't go all Marty. He simply said that tanking is a serious issue in MLB these days. He seemed shocked that Buchanan was so upfront about it, as was I.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:42 PM
Bases juiced with no outs after a HBP to Suarez and a single by Duvall.

757690
05-07-2016, 07:42 PM
No. That was HIS OPINION. Marty & Jeff were speechless at first.

Maybe we heard different things, but I specifically heard him say that this is what the front office was doing, and that he agreed with it.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 07:43 PM
He was not pleased to hear it, but didn't go all Marty. He simply said that tanking is a serious issue in MLB these days. He seemed shocked that Buchanan was so upfront about it, as was I.

I think Zach phrased it poorly. I think he was talking about not bringing up the top prospects (rushing them) to fill a bad club. He was referring to the "non-exciting" names of Smith and Delabar. But he certainly IMPLIED that it was fact...it was not.

Nobody in the front office is going to admit such a thing to him even if it were true. Never.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:45 PM
Barnhart GIDP, run scores. 2-0 Redlegs.

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Finnegan smacks the first pitch to left for an RBI single!

3-0 Redlegs

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 07:45 PM
Make that 3-0 on the Finnegan single. :O)

meigsred
05-07-2016, 07:46 PM
Finnegan with the base hit. 3-0

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tomnuetten
05-07-2016, 07:46 PM
I like to watch the reds play the brewers :)

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:50 PM
Finnegan has 5 hits this season, no other Reds pitcher has a hit this season.

757690
05-07-2016, 07:51 PM
I think Zach phrased it poorly. I think he was talking about not bringing up the top prospects (rushing them) to fill a bad club. He was referring to the "non-exciting" names of Smith and Delabar. But he certainly IMPLIED that it was fact...it was not.

Nobody in the front office is going to admit such a thing to him even if it were true. Never.

Zach is new. He's still learning how to handle these 2nd inning interviews.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 07:53 PM
Zach is new. He's still learning how to handle these 2nd inning interviews.

Yep. I've only heard him 2 or 3 times. Sometimes I think he's trying to impress Marty too much with his "exclusive" info. LOL.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 07:57 PM
Nice job by Finnegan not to walk Perez there after falling behind 3-0. 3 scoreless for him.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 07:59 PM
He was not pleased to hear it, but didn't go all Marty. He simply said that tanking is a serious issue in MLB these days. He seemed shocked that Buchanan was so upfront about it, as was I.

I can only imagine what Joe Nuxhall's reaction would have been. He was usually pretty even-tempered on the radio, but I'm guessing he would have been very fired up about this.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:02 PM
BPHIL! :jump: :jump:

4-0 Redlegs!

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 08:02 PM
Phillips homers again! 4 games in a row

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:02 PM
Ugh. Another borderline strike three to Votto, closer than the last one, but Wolf took forever to punch him out.

DatDude! :jump:

tomnuetten
05-07-2016, 08:03 PM
BP likes to play the brewers aswell ;)

mth123
05-07-2016, 08:03 PM
Phillips another HR. Eating his wheaties this year

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:03 PM
Challenging HR call it seems

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 08:04 PM
That is clearly a home run.

BluegrassRedleg
05-07-2016, 08:04 PM
Who is this kid???

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:05 PM
The distinction between a challenge and an umpire review seems silly.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 08:05 PM
DatDudeHR!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 213
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
9. Eric Davis - 203
10. Barry Larkin - 198
11. Joey Votto - 196
12. Vada Pinson - 186
13. Brandon Phillips - 185
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

BluegrassRedleg
05-07-2016, 08:06 PM
First Red with HRs in 4 straight since Mez in 2014 did it 5 straight times, per FS-OH.

mth123
05-07-2016, 08:07 PM
DatDudeHR!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 213
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
9. Eric Davis - 203
10. Barry Larkin - 198
11. Joey Votto - 196
12. Vada Pinson - 186
13. Brandon Phillips - 185
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

These posts are my favorite thing about the game thread forum.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:10 PM
loooooong HR by Braun

4-1 game

Gandalf the Red
05-07-2016, 08:13 PM
Quick-working lefty gives up a solo HR to lead off the inning, shrugs it off, retires the side.

Tom Browning approves.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:13 PM
Finnegan sets down the rest of the side fairly quickly after the solo shot, he's at an economical 43 pitches after 4. He doesn't appear to have his best swing and miss stuff today, the fastball is around 91, but he is avoiding walks.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 08:17 PM
Quick-working lefty gives up a solo HR to lead off the inning, shrugs it off, retires the side.

Tom Browning approves.

As does Don Gullett.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:27 PM
Surprising defensive mistake by Tucker. Bunt laid down and he couldn't get a handle on it. :(

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:27 PM
Ugh. Sac bunt by the pitcher Nelson with one out and Barnhart misses picking it up, so he reaches on error.

'69
05-07-2016, 08:29 PM
What's up with the enormous signs behing home? GABP might have the ugliest backdrop in mlb.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:30 PM
I hate Alex Presley.

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 08:30 PM
Bases loaded now with 1 out

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 08:31 PM
4-2 on a 5-4 FC. Just hit a little too slow for the DP

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:31 PM
Darn. Almost a DP. Too softly hit. :(

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:32 PM
Bleh. Think Suarez should have gone home, the DP probably wasn't happening.

'69
05-07-2016, 08:32 PM
Ooh, might have gone home with the throw, but almost a dp. Brewers score, 4-2 reds

'69
05-07-2016, 08:35 PM
Cozy don't play!

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:35 PM
Nice pitching by Finnegan! Escapes the big spot against Braun.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:37 PM
You showed me the Votto interview already, FS Ohio.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:39 PM
Lead off single by Cozy. He's hit the ball hard tonight. SB for Cozart too.

Tadasimha
05-07-2016, 08:39 PM
This Cozart is on Fire!

Tadasimha
05-07-2016, 08:42 PM
There you go, Billy. Keep making contact and good things will happeb

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:43 PM
This Cozart is on Fire!

This Cozart isn't paralyzed by self-doubt in the box. He's always had a pretty decent swing with some pop. That 2014 was just painful to watch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:45 PM
WOW! That was fun to watch. Billy was FLYIN!

2 run single by Votto. Is there ANYBODY else who could've scored there?

tomnuetten
05-07-2016, 08:45 PM
those brewers :lol:

Red Raindog
05-07-2016, 08:45 PM
speed is L_E_T_H_A_L

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:46 PM
Two run(!) single by Votto! Ridiculous speed by Billy to score from first.

6-2 Redlegs

Ironman92
05-07-2016, 08:46 PM
Oh Billy

RedsfaninMT
05-07-2016, 08:47 PM
Two run(!) single by Votto! Ridiculous speed by Billy to score from first.

6-2 Redlegs

Thanks. Gameday is soooo slow.

Ironman92
05-07-2016, 08:47 PM
WOW! That was fun to watch. Billy was FLYIN!

2 run single by Votto. Is there ANYBODY else who could've scored there?

Not only did he score but his speed IMO forced the error by the 3rd baseman trying for the perfect relay

757690
05-07-2016, 08:48 PM
Hits and runs against the Brewers should be valued at 75% the value of normal hits and runs. That said, I hate to find out what hits and runs against the Reds bullpen are worth.

Ironman92
05-07-2016, 08:48 PM
Thanks. Gameday is soooo slow.

Billy is NOT

BluegrassRedleg
05-07-2016, 08:48 PM
LOL. Cap'n Tootblan almost out at third.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:48 PM
Thanks. Gameday is soooo slow.
I think Billy's speed broke them.

Gandalf the Red
05-07-2016, 08:50 PM
Not only did he score but his speed IMO forced the error by the 3rd baseman trying for the perfect relay

Totally. Billy is master and commander of the Reds' Psychological Warfare Division.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 08:50 PM
If Billy ever learned to get on base even at a .320-.330 clip that alone would solve a lot of the team's problems on offense.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 08:51 PM
WOW! That was fun to watch. Billy was FLYIN!

2 run single by Votto. Is there ANYBODY else who could've scored there?

The last Red I can remember scoring from first on a single was Eddie Milner. I think it was in 1985 at Shea Stadium, and it was on a single by Pete Rose.

It's probably happened since then, but that's the last one I remember.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:53 PM
The last Red I can remember scoring from first on a single was Eddie Milner. I think it was in 1985 at Shea Stadium, and it was on a single by Pete Rose.

It's probably happened since then, but that's the last one I remember.

I don't recall that. Eddie was fast...but not even close to being in the same league as Mr. Hamilton. I know he drives many fans nuts...but there are times that he is just SOOOOO fun to watch.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 08:53 PM
It seems whenever Billy has a good day at the plate, the Reds score a lot of runs.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 08:54 PM
I don't recall that. Eddie was fast...but not even close to being in the same league as Mr. Hamilton. I know he drives many fans nuts...but there are times that he is just SOOOOO fun to watch.

I'm not saying that Milner was as fast as Hamilton. (He wasn't.) But he did score from first, because Rose had a three-run single.

Chip R
05-07-2016, 08:57 PM
http://www.naoligo.com/kkk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ha-ha-nelson-Simpsons-nelson-ha-ha-93-p-672x480.jpg

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 08:57 PM
I'm not saying that Milner was as fast as Hamilton. (He wasn't.) But he did score from first, because Rose had a three-run single.

The way Pete was running at that time, it probably would've been a triple for anyone else.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 08:57 PM
I'm not saying that Milner was as fast as Hamilton. (He wasn't.) But he did score from first, because Rose had a three-run single.

I know you weren't. Just adding that...as I remember Eddie well too. Loved watching him play defense too.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 08:58 PM
Lucroy HR

6-3 game

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Chris, you're a smart guy, but you gotta retire the rally-killer meme at some point.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:00 PM
Only 70+ pitches but Finnegan struggling now. Delabar warming in the pen.

Ugh. Little hit up the middle, just over Finnegan's head and then BP muffs it.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:01 PM
The way Pete was running at that time, it probably would've been a triple for anyone else.

Rose still ran OK, especially for his age, stealing 8 bases in 9 attempts at age 44.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:03 PM
Rose still ran OK, especially for his age, stealing 8 bases in 9 attempts at age 44.

Lol I know. Just a little old age Pete humor.

'69
05-07-2016, 09:05 PM
Crap. Hill 2-run HR

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 09:06 PM
Getting close as Hill homers to make it 6-5

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:06 PM
Well this start went into the toilet in a hurry

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:06 PM
Finnegan spiked an attempted changeup in the ground, he really doesn't have that pitch tonight, relying heavily on the fastball.

And now Hill hits a 2 run HR on a 3-2 fastball over the middle. And we have a 6-5 ballgame.

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 09:06 PM
Oh My God Here Comes The Bullpen :eek:

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:07 PM
Steve Delabar makes his Reds debut, rocking the #56 previously worn by Scott Sullivan and Todd Coffey.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:08 PM
Oh my god here comes the bullpen

Well at least it's someone coming in who's...different?

That's all I got.

'69
05-07-2016, 09:09 PM
Epic jinx, talked about the. 053 BAA Finnegan on a 3-2 count for lke five minutes

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 09:10 PM
Not a good way to start with a 4 pitch walk

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:10 PM
Lol walks the first hitter he faces.

Yep. He's a Reds bullpenner.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:11 PM
Not a good way to start with a 4 pitch walk

Actually a 5-pitch walk.

Gandalf the Red
05-07-2016, 09:12 PM
Steve Delabar makes his Reds debut, rocking the #56 previously worn by Scott Sullivan and Todd Coffey.

I was just thinking earlier this week how Scott Sullivan probably would be a rock star closer in the 2016 bullpen.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:13 PM
Delabar pretty much showing what he is with his first two batters faced. Walked the first one, and struck out the next one. He does both of those a lot.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:14 PM
Delabar does throw a live ball. It's just that sometimes he's not sure where it's going.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:14 PM
Bartolo Colon hit a HR for the Mets.

video: https://twitter.com/_BenDiamond/status/729116264019406851

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:15 PM
Nice inning by Delabar

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:16 PM
I was just thinking earlier this week how Scott Sullivan probably would be a rock star closer in the 2016 bullpen.

Todd Coffey would probably be the closer with this crew!

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:17 PM
Todd Coffey would probably be the closer with this crew!

I remember when Coffey actually was the closer...briefly

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 09:18 PM
We're gonna need a bigger lead.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:19 PM
I remember when Coffey actually was the closer...briefly

That was right before Eddie Guardado showed up, right?

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:19 PM
We're gonna need a bigger lead.
and a bigger boat.

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 09:21 PM
and a bigger boat.

Exactly what I was thinkin

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:21 PM
and a bigger boat.

http://www.powerandmotoryacht.com/sites/default/files/u15/jaws.jpg

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:23 PM
That was right before Eddie Guardado showed up, right?

Yeah but Eddie never closed out many games for the Reds. He got hurt, Coffey stunk, and Weathers just kind of took over from there.

'69
05-07-2016, 09:24 PM
Coco's appearances were always interesting, he'd fit right in too.

klw
05-07-2016, 09:25 PM
We're gonna need a bigger lead.
And more FBI guys. - Deputy Chief Dwayne T Robinson

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 09:26 PM
http://www.powerandmotoryacht.com/sites/default/files/u15/jaws.jpg

In my head, Price is Roy complaining about shoveling that slop. The Bullpen is that chum. The shark is the opposing teams' hitters.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:27 PM
And more FBI guys. - Deputy Chief Dwayne T Robinson

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXDjbhyWcAEDhGu.png

Ironman92
05-07-2016, 09:28 PM
Bartolo Colon hit a HR for the Mets.

video: https://twitter.com/_BenDiamond/status/729116264019406851

And they cleared the dugout and went into the tunnel to hide lol

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:28 PM
JC really does have good stuff.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:29 PM
In my head, Price is Roy complaining about shoveling that slop. The Bullpen is that chum. The shark is the opposing teams' hitters.

Another way of looking at it is that the shark just seriously photobombed Roy Scheider.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:30 PM
6 consecutive scoreless from the pen. Where am I? What year is it?

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:30 PM
Nice inning from Ramirez

Gandalf the Red
05-07-2016, 09:33 PM
6 consecutive scoreless from the pen. Where am I? What year is it?

"Well, you're the Admiral, and we're going for a joyride, see . . ."

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/joyride-with-perot/n10313

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:36 PM
"Well, you're the Admiral, and we're going for a joyride, see . . ."

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/joyride-with-perot/n10313

I miss Phil Hartman

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:41 PM
Who gets the 8th? JC?

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:42 PM
Cozart leadoff with a single but Billy grounded him over to second, Votto grounded him to third, and BP flew out. Get em on, get em over...can't get em in with 3 outs.

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Who gets the 8th? JC?
I'd probably stick with him, yeah.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:44 PM
Who gets the 8th? JC?

Yes, the Reds continue to ride with El Rey, as J.C. (Juan Carlos) stays in the game.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:44 PM
JC Superstar

Or not

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 09:44 PM
Big K of Carter there

Chuckie
05-07-2016, 09:45 PM
See, that sucked.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 09:45 PM
Aaron Hill with a 2-HR game?

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 09:45 PM
Tie game as Hill homers again and the bullpen starts another streak

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 09:45 PM
:( A. Hill dinger #2. tie ball game.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:45 PM
lol burned by the corpse of Aaron Hill

Gandalf the Red
05-07-2016, 09:45 PM
JC giveth and JC taketh away.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 09:47 PM
Seriously...when the hell is the "woo" going to go away already. I'm SOOOOOO sick of it. Especially when it's one lone idiot doing it in a mostly quiet stadium.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:47 PM
Aaron Hill with a 2-HR game?

I asked what year it was didn't I?

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 09:47 PM
Sure was a nice four run lead we had there for a bit.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:49 PM
Otherwise a pretty impressive outing by Juan Carlos

Kc61
05-07-2016, 09:49 PM
Cotham was warming.

Not sure why Ohlendorf is on the team. They don't use him very much. Pitched once in the last five.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:52 PM
Cotham was warming.

Not sure why Ohlendorf is on the team. They don't use him very much.

13 games 13 innings. He's used as much as everyone else more or less.

757690
05-07-2016, 09:55 PM
Bartolo Colon hit a HR for the Mets.

video: https://twitter.com/_BenDiamond/status/729116264019406851

Joe Sheehan
‏@joe_sheehan
Bartolo Colon is out-slugging Jason Heyward.

By 147 points.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 09:56 PM
Cueto went 8.1 of shutout ball today

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 09:57 PM
Cueto went 8.1 of shutout ball today

It's REDSZONE...not EXREDSZONE!

just kidding, I follow him too. I can't find it in me to root against him. :(

Gandalf the Red
05-07-2016, 09:59 PM
Cueto went 8.1 of shutout ball today

I didn't realize starters were allowed to pitch into the 9th.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:01 PM
I didn't realize starters were allowed to pitch into the 9th.

Only those looney liberals in San Francisco allow it.

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 10:02 PM
Dear lord. I just want to shoot the "woo"ing idiots. Grrrrrr.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:03 PM
I can't believe I ever defended the woo. I had no idea it would still be a thing four years later.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:04 PM
Scream woo at the top of your lungs if you're an idiot. Or Ric Flair.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:04 PM
Well, 1 run on a HR in 4 innings from the bullpen isn't so bad. Let's walk it off.

Kc61
05-07-2016, 10:04 PM
13 games 13 innings. He's used as much as everyone else more or less.

Not lately.

Until tonight. Nice inning for Ohlendorf.

Red Rover
05-07-2016, 10:05 PM
Dear lord. I just want to shoot the "woo"ing idiots. Grrrrrr.

I had to mute that last inning, much more enjoyable.

kaldaniels
05-07-2016, 10:07 PM
Fat Bartolo rounding the bases is just surreal.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:07 PM
https://youtu.be/2sSofokAIiw

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:07 PM
I can't believe I ever defended the woo. I had no idea it would still be a thing four years later.

I never did like it but I hate it worse when the Reds are getting beat or late in a close game

RedTeamGo!
05-07-2016, 10:10 PM
Cueto went 8.1 of shutout ball today

Curious, will you post his stats when he has a bad outing?

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:11 PM
2-0...and Schebler swings at THAT?

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Curious, will you post his stats when he has a bad outing?

No. Why would I wanna do that?

kaldaniels
05-07-2016, 10:11 PM
2-0...and Schebler swings at THAT?

He made up his mind to swing on that as ball 2 was caught by Lucroy.

RedTeamGo!
05-07-2016, 10:12 PM
2-0...and Schebler swings at THAT?

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No. Why would I wanna do that?

Why would you want to post his good stats on a Reds board?

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 10:12 PM
Schebler singles to right

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:13 PM
And we have a base runner!!!

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:13 PM
Calling it: The Legend of Cozart will be cemented here.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:13 PM
He made up his mind to swing on that as ball 2 was caught by Lucroy.

Lol I think you're right. He came through in the end though.

Now Zack Zack the hitting maniac will save us all.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:15 PM
Why would you want to post his good stats on a Reds board?

I dunno...because he's a favorite of mine and I assume still is to many others here. Weird that you care.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:17 PM
He just missed that...

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:18 PM
Calling it: The Legend of Cozart will be cemented here.
Yeah, the legend of the no-hit shortstop!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eky9MK7-HI

_Sir_Charles_
05-07-2016, 10:18 PM
Why would you want to post his good stats on a Reds board?

Because some guys will always be Reds in some fans' hearts.

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 10:18 PM
Extra innings. On to the 10th

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 10:20 PM
Cotham in for the 10th

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 10:22 PM
Nice play by Cozart but the throw just pulls Votto off the bag

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:22 PM
We gotta get through the meat of the Brewers batting order here.

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:23 PM
Damn that WOO!

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 10:24 PM
Trouble here as LuCroy singles. 1st and 2nd

Chuckie
05-07-2016, 10:25 PM
It's a Saturday night and we're not only watching a bad baseball team, we're chatting about it on a message board.

Hello my fellow nerds!

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 10:25 PM
Infield hit. Bases loaded with no outs.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:25 PM
10735

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:25 PM
It's a Friday night and we're not only watching a bad baseball team, we're chatting about it on a message board.

Hello my fellow nerds!

Saturday here

Chuckie
05-07-2016, 10:26 PM
Saturday here

Man, your brain is faster than my editing skills.

Reds Fanatic
05-07-2016, 10:27 PM
Wow. Hill homers again. Grand slam and his 3rd homer of the night

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:27 PM
Lol Aaron Hill

Chuckie
05-07-2016, 10:27 PM
Game over. Some scrub just hit a 2-run HR

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:28 PM
Aaron Hill? I hate you

DocRed
05-07-2016, 10:28 PM
Wow....worst pitching staff in baseball. Oh well..

Chuckie
05-07-2016, 10:28 PM
Remember when we thought Cotham was good? That was funny stuff on our part.

Gandalf the Red
05-07-2016, 10:29 PM
J.J. Hoover: "Ha! We'll see how well they get along without me!"

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:29 PM
Good to see we got quality back for Chapman.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:29 PM
3 HRs in a game to Aaron Hill. You can only laugh.

Chuckie
05-07-2016, 10:29 PM
Draft pick guys. Keep your eyes on the prize.

TheBigLebowski
05-07-2016, 10:29 PM
Good to see Caleb finally settling down and fitting in with his new friends.

Kc61
05-07-2016, 10:29 PM
Game over. Some scrub just hit a 2-run HR

I saw a four run homer. Maybe my TV is on the blink.

Cotham isn't a good candidate for this kind of spot. Doesn't miss enough bats. He'd better off in the middle of games.

This one is basically on Finnegan who couldn't hold the lead. Too bad but Reds can win the series tomorrow.

HokieRed
05-07-2016, 10:30 PM
I could feel this coming for the last several innings. I hate to say it, but I do think we've been more optimistic about Cotham than there's any reason to be. Got to get longer starts out of Finnegan.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:30 PM
J.J. Hoover: "Ha! We'll see how well they get along without me!"

Someone had to fill the void of batting tee that JJ left behind

Chuckie
05-07-2016, 10:31 PM
Good to see we got quality back for Chapman.

Jag is raking in Double-A though.

(If "raking" means being one of the worst players in all of Double-A.)

At least Rookie Davis is good. If not, that trade would have been somehow even worse than I originally thought.

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 10:32 PM
Cotham will soon be boarding the Louisville Express.

Chuckie
05-07-2016, 10:32 PM
Starting to feel like we might miss the playoffs this year

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:34 PM
Jag is raking in Double-A though.

(If "raking" means being one of the worst players in all of Double-A.)

At least Rookie Davis is good. If not, that trade would have been somehow even worse than I originally thought.

Yeah everything I've heard of Davis is positive. Cotham at his best is meh. Still better than Drew Hayes though

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:34 PM
Is that 3 infield hits this inning?

TheBigLebowski
05-07-2016, 10:35 PM
Cotham was toss-in chaff.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:35 PM
Is that 3 infield hits this inning?

Yessir!

In fairness, Cotham was a bit unlucky before Hill came up.

Chip R
05-07-2016, 10:36 PM
Stupid Hoover.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:36 PM
Hayes stinks

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:37 PM
Keystone Cops

Kc61
05-07-2016, 10:37 PM
Gotta prioritize the bullpen, Reds, or this is what you are going to get.

Now Hayes is getting bombed.

This bullpen is the scrap heap theory of relief pitching in the flesh. See the results.

DocRed
05-07-2016, 10:37 PM
Suarez California dreaming...

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 10:38 PM
Hayes may have the seat next to Cotham on the Louisville Express.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:39 PM
Gotta prioritize the bullpen, Reds, or this is what you are going to get.

Now Hayes is getting bombed.

This is the scrap heap theory of relief pitching in the flesh.Dude do you really think the Reds see any of these jabronis as part of the future?

Gandalf the Red
05-07-2016, 10:39 PM
Seems like this inning should be starring a short, round-faced kid and his pet beagle.

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:39 PM
Suarez California dreaming...

Yeah. Not sure what he was doing there. He wasn't covering a base or backing up anybody.

Larkin11
05-07-2016, 10:40 PM
lol

aernisius
05-07-2016, 10:40 PM
This is a nice reward for ending the bullpen scoring streak. Seems like we should get 8 games worth of the record for this one.

Larkin11
05-07-2016, 10:41 PM
The baseball gods weren't ready for us to end the streak last night. This is their wrath.

Kc61
05-07-2016, 10:44 PM
Dude do you really think the Reds see any of these jabronis as part of the future?

I follow the team pretty closely. I don't know what the Reds intend with their future bullpen.

'69
05-07-2016, 10:45 PM
Well, 1 run on a HR in 4 innings from the bullpen isn't so bad. Let's walk it off.

OK, walking it off... ;)

Mutaman
05-07-2016, 10:45 PM
This is just incompetence.

Ironman92
05-07-2016, 10:47 PM
3 k's looking for Votto? Down a TD and he's beside himself about the call.

Ironman92
05-07-2016, 10:47 PM
Phillips battling Cozart for the only AS spot

Tracy Jones
05-07-2016, 10:47 PM
Phillips is murdering the ball - Captain Obvious

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:48 PM
I follow the team pretty closely. I don't know what the Reds intend with their future bullpen.
There are some guys pitching well in the minors in the bullpen, some pitching well in the minors in the rotation, and some guys big league ready and possibly pushed out of the rotation sooner or later (Moscot, Lamb, Lorenzen).

Of course I agree with you completely that the bullpen is important, but the whole thing about specifically needing to groom guys as relievers just doesn't add up.

Ironman92
05-07-2016, 10:49 PM
Is it ironic that one of the noticeable sponsors in the hitting background for all tv viewers is Ollie's Bargain Outlet?

Ironman92
05-07-2016, 10:49 PM
Suarez with a Janish to seal the loss

Big Klu
05-07-2016, 10:50 PM
Congratulations to Brandon Phillips, who has tied Vada Pinson for twelfth place on the Reds all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 213
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
9. Eric Davis - 203
10. Barry Larkin - 198
11. Joey Votto - 196
12. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Brandon Phillips - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

757690
05-07-2016, 10:51 PM
Maybe Brandon can be convinced to accept a trade to the Nationals now? The Reds might actually get something good for him, if he did.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:52 PM
Maybe Brandon can be convinced to accept a trade to the Nationals now? The Reds might actually get something good for him, if he did.
Nats have Daniel Murphy, that ship has sailed.

40YrRedsFan
05-07-2016, 10:53 PM
This is going to be a much longer "rebuild/retool/tweak, etc" than the execs want to admit.

Kc61
05-07-2016, 10:54 PM
There are some guys pitching well in the minors in the bullpen, some pitching well in the minors in the rotation, and some guys big league ready and possibly pushed out of the rotation sooner or later (Moscot, Lamb, Lorenzen).

Of course I agree with you completely that the bullpen is important, but the whole thing about specifically needing to groom guys as relievers just doesn't add up.

Name me one reliever pitching well in AA or AAA who is among the Reds top fifty prospects.

The Reds are not devoting top arms to the bullpen at this juncture.

Nor are they converting any meaningful arms to the pen. I know, Daniel Wright. He'll save it all.

RedTeamGo!
05-07-2016, 10:54 PM
I dunno...because he's a favorite of mine and I assume still is to many others here. Weird that you care.

Just took it as trolling. My mistake...

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 10:54 PM
Suarez with a Janish to seal the loss

With all due respect: I disagree. I think the Bullpen had more to do with the loss than Suarez

I'm sorry thought your post said to steal the loss instead of seal the loss

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 10:59 PM
Name me one reliever pitching well in AA or AAA who is among the Reds top fifty prospects.

Zack Weiss. Alejandro Chacin might crack top 50 as well. But besides that, I don't think the distinction between pitching well as a starter or pitching well as a reliever in AA/AAA matters.

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 11:03 PM
I think we'd be worse off than we are now if a bunch of our top prospects were relief pitchers.

Kc61
05-07-2016, 11:03 PM
Zack Weiss. Alejandro Chacin might crack top 50 as well. But besides that, I don't think the distinction between pitching well as a starter or pitching well as a reliever in AA/AAA matters.

For all we know, Zach Weiss is out indefinitely with injury. Chacin is supposedly not a bat misser.

Don't be dazzled by a lot of AA relief success. We're talking about getting out Ryan Braun and Jonathan Lucroy in the 8th and 9th innings. It takes a pretty talented pitcher.

I've heard this theory for years - don't pay for relievers, don't devote highly rated prospects to relief. You can find good relievers off the scrap heap.

I'm watching the scrap heap every night with this club and it doesn't work. It's like any other position. Talent wins out.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 11:09 PM
For all we know, Zach Weiss is out indefinitely with injury. Chacin is supposedly not a bat misser.

Don't be dazzled by a lot of AA relief success. We're talking about getting out Ryan Braun and Jonathan Lucroy in the 8th and 9th innings. It takes a pretty talented pitcher.

I've heard this theory for years - don't pay for relievers, don't devote highly rated prospects to relief. You can find good relievers off the scrap heap.

I'm watching the scrap heap every night with this club and it doesn't work. It's like any other position. Talent wins out.The Reds did pay for relievers. Last year they tried a quick fix with Gregg and got burned. This year is just a rebuild, spending money on the bullpen wouldn't make much sense. There's no indication to me that the Reds don't value relief pitching, we saw the money they have to Broxton, Marshall, Parra, etc and only cut ties with LeCure, Ondrusek, etc because they got bad, not because the Reds were being cheap.

HokieRed
05-07-2016, 11:09 PM
I follow the team pretty closely. I don't know what the Reds intend with their future bullpen.

I don't think this is that hard. Here's a projection for next year's staff. Rotation: Bailey, DeSclafani, Stephenson, Reed, and one of Finnegan, Iglesias, and Lamb. Two of the last three will be in the pen, together with Lorenzen, Cingrani, Straily, and two of Wood, Delabar, Johnson, Ramirez, Adleman. Moscot, Weiss, Somsen, Dayan Diaz, possibly even Simon. I think Hoover, Hayes, and Ohlendorf will be out of the organization; Cotham may still be in the organization.

Kc61
05-07-2016, 11:16 PM
The Reds did pay for relievers. Last year they tried a quick fix with Gregg and got burned. This year is just a rebuild, spending money on the bullpen wouldn't make much sense. There's no indication to me that the Reds don't value relief pitching, we saw the money they have to Broxton, Marshall, Parra, etc and only cut ties with LeCure, Ondrusek, etc because they got bad, not because the Reds were being cheap.

I'm not saying the Reds are being cheap. I'm saying that I've read for years on this site that it's foolish to spend money or top talent on a bullpen. I don't agree, never did.

As for the Reds currently, it's not a matter of money. Presumably the whole team is getting cheaper, which is fine with me. I don't expect the pen to be any different.

I simply want to see a viable plan for a bullpen. I do not. This entire pitching staff is turning over and I see a lot of effort and talent devoted to this rotation. I do not see the same with the bullpen.

'69
05-07-2016, 11:18 PM
JC Ramirez hitting 97, if his #1 isn't straight as a string, may have something there. Ohlendorf throwing off speed @ 81 and then brings it at 94-95..Cingrani ooking like he turned the corner, and Wood seems solid, servieable at a minimum.

I agree with KC that you don't build a pen from the scrap heap, a strong BP is just as important to any phase of winning consistently.

Kc61
05-07-2016, 11:21 PM
I don't think this is that hard. Here's a projection for next year's staff. Rotation: Bailey, DeSclafani, Stephenson, Reed, and one of Finnegan, Iglesias, and Lamb. Two of the last three will be in the pen, together with Lorenzen, Cingrani, Straily, and two of Wood, Delabar, Johnson, Ramirez, Adleman. Moscot, Weiss, Somsen, Dayan Diaz, possibly even Simon. I think Hoover, Hayes, and Ohlendorf will be out of the organization; Cotham may still be in the organization.

That's fine, but to my knowledge the Reds have never even suggested that Finnegan, Iglesias or even Lamb will be in the bullpen. They have steadfastly said that they will be starters.

So I don't view this as a Reds plan. It's a good thought from you, but until I see the Reds devote some real talent to the bullpen I won't be satisfied with this pitching rebuild.

'69
05-07-2016, 11:21 PM
I see Lorenzen's name as lock for the BP, which he certainly isn't. Give him his shot, just no reason to be enamored with him.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 11:28 PM
Chacin is supposedly not a bat misser.

BTW, Chacin has a K/9 near 11.0 for his minor league career, so I'm not sure where you might have heard he doesn't miss bats.

And I know he doesn't meet your current threshold, but Jimmy Herget is lights out in A+ and I think can move very quickly in the system. But again, I'm more concerned with arms in the system, period.

Ron Madden
05-07-2016, 11:29 PM
The Good News is we play again tomorrow.
Forget this game and move on.

kaldaniels
05-07-2016, 11:37 PM
The Good News is we play again tomorrow.
Forget this game and move on.

Agreed.

Let's watch Lamb (starting tomorrow) close guys. If he can just be a #3 or #4 starter it will open the door to many options for some of our other starters/starting prospects. Don't underestimate his importance to the club going forward. He's my wildcard.

Tom Servo
05-07-2016, 11:40 PM
He's my wildcard.
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/John+Lamb+San+Francisco+Giants+v+Cincinnati+YYThcV GAuPAl.jpg

kaldaniels
05-07-2016, 11:53 PM
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/John+Lamb+San+Francisco+Giants+v+Cincinnati+YYThcV GAuPAl.jpg

I wish there was a better image out there...I was wanting to go along the lines of...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/41/b3/8641b3d352c8184f6de14ad12fa868a0.jpg

WVRedsFan
05-08-2016, 12:23 AM
Glad u was in Pittsburgh and didn't have to follow this game. Great Caesar's Ghost, the bullpen is BAD. That said, it appears the "brain trust" is doing all they can to not develop a bullpen. I'm with Kc in that I don't see a plan. Maybe later.

Did get to watch the Cardinals beat the Bucs. Those of you who constantly while about, Marty, Thom, the Cowboy, and George should listen to this bunch. Simply the worst crew in MLB. Never have so many HOFamers ever played on one team and every run scored by the opposition was not justified.

Kc61
05-08-2016, 01:58 AM
BTW, Chacin has a K/9 near 11.0 for his minor league career, so I'm not sure where you might have heard he doesn't miss bats.

And I know he doesn't meet your current threshold, but Jimmy Herget is lights out in A+ and I think can move very quickly in the system. But again, I'm more concerned with arms in the system, period.

Chacin is a good prospect, I don't think he gets enough mention. Indeed he does have a very good K rate, you are right.

Ron Madden
05-08-2016, 02:25 AM
I turned on the radio after the game and heard Marty saying the defense has been the biggest disappointment and the Reds most troublesome problem so far this season.

Red Raindog
05-08-2016, 07:04 AM
I turned on the radio after the game and heard Marty saying the defense has been the biggest disappointment and the Reds most troublesome problem so far this season.

:laugh: