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Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 10:48 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CigSNo4UoAAYoyI.jpg

#FreePeraza

OnBaseMachine
05-15-2016, 11:26 AM
Nice to see the rebuilding Reds starting Ivan DeJesus Jr. over Jose Peraza.

androosh
05-15-2016, 11:48 AM
Nice to see the rebuilding Reds starting Ivan DeJesus Jr. over Jose Peraza.Sometimes you've just got to go with the sure thing. Like guaranteeing the #7 spot doesn't reach base all game.

Chuckie
05-15-2016, 12:13 PM
Nice to see the rebuilding Reds starting Ivan DeJesus Jr. over Jose Peraza.

Is this Price's way of pouting? Price knows he won't be around next year. (Dick's comments earlier this week make that pretty clear IMO.) Why should he care about developing Peraza?

What a joke. There is not one Reds fan that would rather see DeJesus in the lineup over Peraza today. I was looking forward to seeing where he was batting in the lineup and what position he would play. I was almost floored when I saw he wasn't in the lineup. I say "almost" because Bryan Price doing dumb things is commonplace by now.

Red Raindog
05-15-2016, 12:19 PM
Sometimes you've just got to go with the sure thing. Like guaranteeing the #7 spot doesn't reach base all game.

:laugh:

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 12:35 PM
Price is a bit of a Dusty disciple.....in all the bad ways possible more than any of the good. One of those seems to be that he does not believe he has to cater to any rebuilding and that it entails playing a guy like Peraza.

Bench players have to stay sharp.

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 12:48 PM
Price is a bit of a Dusty disciple.....in all the bad ways possible more than any of the good. One of those seems to be that he does not believe he has to cater to any rebuilding and that it entails playing a guy like Peraza.

Bench players have to stay sharp.If that was the case, why did he not bat him last night instead of the almost sure out (not that Ivan is any less sure out) Cabrerra? As much as Dusty confounded me, Price does it double. That said, what's the use of giving Peraza a trip to the majors and then sit him on the bench?

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 12:56 PM
If that was the case, why did he not bat him last night instead of the almost sure out (not that Ivan is any less sure out) Cabrerra? As much as Dusty confounded me, Price does it double. That said, what's the use of giving Peraza a trip to the majors and then sit him on the bench?

Pereza did start yesterday in CF and he batted 2nd.

The only thing that Price seems to have more than Dusty, who I was OK with most of the time.....is more flexibility with a batting order but even then the CF/SS still bats 1st/2nd no matter who they seem to be.

Oh and that need to be overly aggressive to the point of stupidity on the base paths until the whole team is full of TOOBLAN who seem to have no clue how to run the bases is aggravating.

Kilgore_Trout
05-15-2016, 01:20 PM
With Cozart getting the day off, this was the perfect opportunity to start Peraza at short. What a bummer.

redrum
05-15-2016, 01:24 PM
With Cozart getting the day off, this was the perfect opportunity to start Peraza at short. What a bummer.

If Peraza is not good enough defensively to play SS with the Reds, he becomes immediately less interesting as a prospect.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 01:27 PM
If Peraza is not good enough defensively to play SS with the Reds, he becomes immediately less interesting as a prospect.
He's played a solid SS in Louisville, and De Jesus is certainly no Cozart himself.

redrum
05-15-2016, 01:31 PM
He's played a solid SS in Louisville, and De Jesus is certainly no Cozart himself.

Yet here we are. A perfect opportunity to play the 'ss of the future' at his natural position is being passed by.

NebraskaRed
05-15-2016, 01:43 PM
Phillies announcers talking about how "lost" Votto has looked this series

OnBaseMachine
05-15-2016, 01:48 PM
Votto with weak contact on 2-0. Count me in as officially worried about Votto.

757690
05-15-2016, 01:54 PM
Yet here we are. A perfect opportunity to play the 'ss of the future' at his natural position is being passed by.

This suggests that they don't think he's ready to play MLB SS. But that doesn't mean that he will never be.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 01:57 PM
Leadoff double for Bruce in the 2nd

The Operator
05-15-2016, 01:59 PM
Duvall the double machine strikes again.

1-0 Reds

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 01:59 PM
Another Duvall RBI double!

1-0 Redlegs

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 02:00 PM
Another double for The Louisville Slugger Adam Duvall!!!

NebraskaRed
05-15-2016, 02:00 PM
Duvall is making me a believer

757690
05-15-2016, 02:00 PM
Another double from Duvall. I think his nickname should be Double Duvall, or DD for short.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:05 PM
Barnhart makes it 2-0!

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Still nobody out

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:05 PM
De Jesus single, Barnhart single, 2-0 Redlegs

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:06 PM
Year in year out The Reds suck at bunting.

'69
05-15-2016, 02:08 PM
Year in year out The Reds suck at bunting.

And the Nerds are happy.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:09 PM
Holt GIDP to end the inning.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:09 PM
Holt GIDP to end the inning.
Peraza could have done that.

'69
05-15-2016, 02:10 PM
Peraza could have done that.

How about Peraza at 1st

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 02:11 PM
Pereza did start yesterday in CF and he batted 2nd.

The only thing that Price seems to have more than Dusty, who I was OK with most of the time.....is more flexibility with a batting order but even then the CF/SS still bats 1st/2nd no matter who they seem to be.

Oh and that need to be overly aggressive to the point of stupidity on the base paths until the whole team is full of TOOBLAN who seem to have no clue how to run the bases is aggravating.Totally agree 100%.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:17 PM
Wow Bruce looked bad there. Sun in his eyes or terrible read?

SirFelixCat
05-15-2016, 02:17 PM
Wow Bruce looked bad there. Sun in his eyes or terrible read?

REALLY strong wind.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 02:17 PM
Correctly ruled a single, but should have been caught.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:18 PM
Ugh.

Starting to think Bruce belongs in LF.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 02:18 PM
Wow Bruce looked bad there. Sun in his eyes or terrible read?

Wind Blown Single

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:19 PM
Fielder's choice puts runners at 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:24 PM
Suarez with a single

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:26 PM
John Lamb in the dugout.

My wife noticed him for the first time the other night. "Who the heck is that?" she says. "Oh he's one of the 3 guys they got back for Cueto." I reply.

She says "I thought maybe he was in the dugout selling meth or something."

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:28 PM
Joey why

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:29 PM
DatDudeDP to end the inning after the Votto whiff.

NebraskaRed
05-15-2016, 02:29 PM
those Phillies announcers are just straight up mocking Votto

malcontent
05-15-2016, 02:30 PM
those Phillies announcers are just straight up mocking Votto
How so? This should be interesting.

CWRed
05-15-2016, 02:31 PM
That Votto swing was one of the worst I've ever seen. There was not one part of his body that wasn't spazzing. What is going on with him?

NebraskaRed
05-15-2016, 02:32 PM
How so? This should be interesting.

talking/almost laughing at how badly he missed that pitch that, according to them, he should have murdered

malcontent
05-15-2016, 02:33 PM
That Votto swing was one of the worst I've ever seen. There was not one part of his body that wasn't spazzing. What is going on with him?
Probably requires an intervention.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 02:33 PM
Heard Jim Kelch and Doug Flynn on Reds Radio for the 1st inning. Sounded better than I thought they would together.

CWRed
05-15-2016, 02:34 PM
Probably requires an intervention.

Maybe a decaf latte? :-)

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:35 PM
Nice barehand by Suarez...but Votto had to bail on the throw or else get plowed over by Franco.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 02:36 PM
E5 :(

malcontent
05-15-2016, 02:36 PM
See ball. Hit ball.

Votto's eyes aren't (presumably) going to go bad. He needs to stop over-thinking, guessing, and STOP choking up.

IMNSHO.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:38 PM
That Votto swing was one of the worst I've ever seen. There was not one part of his body that wasn't spazzing. What is going on with him?

Gotta be mental at this point.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:39 PM
Probably requires an intervention.https://img0.etsystatic.com/025/0/5607105/il_570xN.571396744_pb7v.jpg

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 02:39 PM
Gotta be mental at this point.

Maybe he's thinkin too much.

40YrRedsFan
05-15-2016, 02:42 PM
That Votto swing was one of the worst I've ever seen. There was not one part of his body that wasn't spazzing. What is going on with him?

Votto will be 33 in September. His skills are starting to decline.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 02:43 PM
Don't think up there son.....you'll only hurt the ballclub.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 02:45 PM
Votto will be 33 in September. His skills are starting to decline.

:laugh:

He's not Nate Colbert circa 1975-76. Yes I brought him up again because he was the first player I ever saw fall from a cliff within a year like no other before.

Unless he's turning into Mister Magoo.......he is just mechanically out of sorts...not losing is skills in just 1 year.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:46 PM
Duvall makes it 1st and 3rd, nobody out with a single.

Kinda excited about him.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:47 PM
Gotta be mental at this point.I'm afraid not, I think he still has not been able to adjust to the new way they are pitching him.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:47 PM
Votto will be 33 in September. His skills are starting to decline.A little too dramatic of a one drop off to be chalked up entirely to aging if you ask me.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 02:47 PM
I'd like to see Duvall hit cleanup for a couple weeks just to see how he does.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:49 PM
De Jesus can't hit it deep enough for a sac fly, now one out with the runners still on the corners.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:51 PM
I'm afraid not, I think he still has not been able to adjust to the new way they are pitching him.Could be.

I just wonder why suddenly, teams have found this magic way to pitch to him. Out of nowhere basically. Where did it come from?

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Duvall narrowly escapes being picked off, they had him dead to rights. 2nd and 3rd, one out.

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Barnhart being intentionally walked, bases load with 1 out.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 02:51 PM
Joey needs the same advice that Rose gave Sabo one time.....per Spuds... He asked Pete what he could do to help his slump in the 2nd half of 1988, where he almost lost his ROY to Mark Grace.

Pete told Chris... I don't know...Just go up there and hit the ball. Pete was a deep thinker.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:51 PM
lol nice job Price sending Duvall, really worked out here

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Could be.

I just wonder why suddenly, teams have found this magic way to pitch to him. Out of nowhere basically. Where did it come from?
I know, that's my question too, it just seems like a real life deus ex machina. But a RedlegNation writer has noted that Votto has had difficulty with inside pitching since 2013.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 02:52 PM
Can't anybody on this team hit a decent flyball to get a run in or is this ballpark so small that you have to hit it to the warning track?

CWRed
05-15-2016, 02:52 PM
Did they just do that again? Steal so pitcher comes up. Does Price have any brain cells?

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:52 PM
WOW

Bases loaded walk to Straily. 3-0 Reds

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 02:52 PM
Alright Straily RBI walk

The Operator
05-15-2016, 02:53 PM
A walk on 4 pitches, no less.

I thought only The Reds did stuff like that, lol.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:53 PM
Just the way Price drew it up, I knew it.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 02:54 PM
Can't anybody on this team hit a decent flyball to get a run in or is this ballpark so small that you have to hit it to the warning track?

Doug Flynn said the wind held it up.
watching on TV listening to radio.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 02:54 PM
Joey needs the same advice that Rose gave Sabo one time.....per Spuds... He asked Pete what he could do to help his slump in the 2nd half of 1988, where he almost lost his ROY to Mark Grace.

Pete told Chris... I don't know...Just go up there and hit the ball. Pete was a deep thinker.

Now you've done it! Somewhere, THom is beginning a 40-minute dissertation.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 02:54 PM
Joey could always back off the plate a little bit and wait until he gets 2 strikes to choke up. That would be worth a try.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 02:55 PM
Now you've done it! Somewhere, THom is beginning a 40-minute dissertation.

I am sure Thom has baseball manifestos all over his home waiting to spring them on the world.

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 02:56 PM
Was Holt a high OBP guy in the minors?

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 02:57 PM
Did they just do that again? Steal so pitcher comes up. Does Price have any brain cells?

I'm guessing they might have had a play on (like a hit & run). Duvall got picked off first, but just kept running and beat the throw to second.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 02:58 PM
Did they just do that again? Steal so pitcher comes up. Does Price have any brain cells?
It really should be noted this was incredibly dumb, and only worked out well due to blind luck. No reason to send the runner, who doesn't have great speed, there. Even if he hits into a double play, you still score a run.

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Was Holt a high OBP guy in the minors?
Yes.


Holt fielder's choice scores another run, 4-0 Redlegs.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:01 PM
SUAREZ!!

3-run dinger!

7-0 Reds

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:01 PM
Suarez is back!!!! 3 run homer

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:01 PM
Suarez! :jump:

7-0 Redlegs

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 03:01 PM
Suarez!!!! 3 for 3

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:02 PM
Perhaps seeing a lefty was just what the Doctor ordered for Eugenio

BCubb2003
05-15-2016, 03:02 PM
That's euge.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 03:03 PM
Can Straily go 9 innings? :evil:

PXShaman
05-15-2016, 03:04 PM
Perhaps seeing a lefty was just what the Doctor ordered for Eugenio

Or maybe having Votto behind you gets you that meatball on 3-2.
But that was a great swing he put on that pitch.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:04 PM
Welsh just mentioned the Ken Giles trade.

Still can't believe how much Houston gave up for him.

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:05 PM
Surely the hitting coach is working with Votto. We've never, ever seen him like this.

TheBigLebowski
05-15-2016, 03:06 PM
So happy so see Eugene running into a couple.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:06 PM
Or maybe having Votto behind you gets you that meatball on 3-2.

It was a hanging breaking ball, try harder.

40YrRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:09 PM
Can you D/L a player for mental anguish?

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:09 PM
Can Straily go 9 innings? :evil:

I don't know about 9, but he should be able to go a little deeper due to the 7-run lead. (Low-stress innings.)

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:11 PM
Just pound the strike zone, Straily. You've got a 7-run lead. No need to nibble at the corners.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:11 PM
I don't know about 9, but he should be able to go a little deeper due to the 7-run lead. (Low-stress innings.)
Unfortunately, as we've seen here, Straily has never been especially pitch efficient.

TheBigLebowski
05-15-2016, 03:12 PM
Welsh just mentioned the Ken Giles trade.

Still can't believe how much Houston gave up for him.

Dunno which was worse - that one or the Shelby Miller fiasco.

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It was a hanging breaking ball, try harder.

Was that necessary?

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 03:13 PM
Another seeing eye single

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:13 PM
Walking the #8 guy and giving up a hit to a pitcher...I wouldn't recommend it.

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Was that necessary?
Yes.

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:14 PM
This looks to be a typical Reds game--get an early lead and then the pitching gets lousy and the other team catches up and passes by one run as the bats die

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:14 PM
So happy so see Eugene running into a couple.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/358126686/jeep1_400x400.jpg

TheBigLebowski
05-15-2016, 03:15 PM
Walking the #8 guy and giving up a hit to a pitcher...I wouldn't recommend it.

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Yes.

Not my fight. Have it your way, dude.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:16 PM
BTW, Scott Schebler is 3-4 today in Louisville with a HR.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 03:17 PM
This looks to be a typical Reds game--get an early lead and then the pitching gets lousy and the other team catches up and passes by one run as the bats die

Schleprock.. ;)

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:18 PM
Walking the #8 guy and giving up a hit to a pitcher...I wouldn't recommend it.

On the other hand, the Phillies issued a bases-loaded walk on four pitches to a pitcher with a batting average of .000.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:19 PM
Wheels are coming off for Straily. Bases loaded now with two outs.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:19 PM
This looks to be a typical Reds game--get an early lead and then the pitching gets lousy and the other team catches up and passes by one run as the bats die

The bats haven't died yet. They just scored five runs in their most recent inning.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:20 PM
Jim Day says Straily's hand was looked at by the medical staff earlier.

Delabar warming.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:21 PM
Straily's body language is not good.

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Long foul ball that missed being a grand slam by about 20 feet.

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:21 PM
The bats haven't died yet. They just scored five runs in their most recent inning.True and I hope they don't, but the key word there is "yet."

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:21 PM
Got him. K ends the inning.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:21 PM
That was as long and stressful as a no-run inning you will see.

RedsfaninMT
05-15-2016, 03:21 PM
Wheels are coming off for Straily. Bases loaded now with two outs.

I wish all the Reds pitchers had the wheels come off like that.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 03:22 PM
Good lookin off speed pitch to end the inning!

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:22 PM
Jim Day says Straily's hand was looked at by the medical staff earlier.

Delabar warming.

So most likely Straily will not be pitching deep into this game.

malcontent
05-15-2016, 03:25 PM
BTW, Scott Schebler is 3-4 today in Louisville with a HR.
Schebler breaches containment. All is lost.

TheBigLebowski
05-15-2016, 03:26 PM
What hex has been cast upon this staff??

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:26 PM
What hex has been cast upon this staff??
Papa Shango.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5yLgocD9LT7GvnS7v68/giphy.gif

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:27 PM
Duvall on fire.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 03:27 PM
You have got to me flipping kidding me. Pitcher gets a 7 run lead and he got hurt doing what exactly? Frail team that needed a starter to go at least 7 and you cannot even do that with a 7 run lead.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 03:30 PM
Schebler breaches containment. All is lost.

At least it shows if given playing time he is not a Brendan Bosch clone.....even if it is AAA.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:30 PM
What hex has been cast upon this staff??

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/GalleryComics_1900x900_20140319_SP-Jonah-Hex-v2_5303eff056f654.26412804.jpg

TheBigLebowski
05-15-2016, 03:30 PM
Papa Shango.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5yLgocD9LT7GvnS7v68/giphy.gif

Used to love that guy!!

_Sir_Charles_
05-15-2016, 03:31 PM
You have got to me flipping kidding me. Pitcher gets a 7 run lead and he got hurt doing what exactly? Frail team that needed a starter to go at least 7 and you cannot even do that with a 7 run lead.

I don't have video, but Straily was on the bases in the top half of that inning. Any chance he got hurt sliding?

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:32 PM
I don't have video, but Straily was on the bases in the top half of that inning. Any chance he got hurt sliding?

He's actually been on the bases twice today.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:37 PM
Way to pimp your long fly ball to the warning track, Howard.

LOL

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:37 PM
He got it! He got it!

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:37 PM
Great catch by Holt!!!

_Sir_Charles_
05-15-2016, 03:37 PM
He's actually been on the bases twice today.

I tuned in at the start of the 4th. Good timing on my part. :O)

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:38 PM
Holt!

http://www.f4wonline.com/sites/www.f4wonline.com/files/Daniel_Bryan_2012CutByJibunjis.png

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:39 PM
Better get Strialy out of there

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 03:39 PM
Good play Duvall

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:40 PM
Ruiz singles, runners at 1st and 3rd with one out.

Straily running on fumes.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:40 PM
Better get Strialy out of there
Yeah I'm sure he wants the W, but he looks donezo.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 03:41 PM
I don't have video, but Straily was on the bases in the top half of that inning. Any chance he got hurt sliding?

At this point in time if you blow on a Reds player you might be taking a chance of an injury. My fine china has more reseliency. Lamb already hurt himself swinging a bat. I mean even Bartolo Colon, who should get hurt anytime he moves a round more than a 1 yard radius... does not get hurt this much.

I really do not know..... I am frustrated. :laugh:

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:42 PM
K!

2 outs

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 03:43 PM
One more out then get him outta there with a chance to win.

That should do it for Straily.. Hope the Bullpen can hold a 7 run lead

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:44 PM
Straily escapes unscathed.

7-0 Reds after 5.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:44 PM
Well, it got very ugly in the last two, but Straily is in line for the win with five scoreless.

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 03:44 PM
whew!
Straily escapes unscathed.

7-0 Reds after 5.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:45 PM
One more out then get him outta there with a chance to winAgreed.

Man these 5 inning starts are piling up. Has a team ever had the most IP by a bullpen and also the worst bullpen ERA over the course of a year? That would be something.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 03:45 PM
Great job working his way out of these jams. I am sorry he is hurt so If my posts sound like I am blaming the player...not my intent. Now about Bob Boone though.....that's the guy we need to speak with.

Red Raindog
05-15-2016, 03:46 PM
One more out then get him outta there with a chance to win.

That should do it for Straily.. Hope the Bullpen can hold a 7 run lead

what could wrong with this bullpen?

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:46 PM
Pacheco hits for Straily.

On to the vaunted bullpen.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:47 PM
I'd try and see if Delabar and Somsen could finish it out themselves.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:48 PM
Straily was obviously laboring today, but he gutted it out to give the Reds five scoreless innings.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:53 PM
Jeez, how did Franco still make that play after taking the ball to the throat?

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 03:54 PM
I'm afraid to look at Votto's slash line against lefties this year.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 03:54 PM
Jeez, how did Franco still make that play after taking the ball to the throat?

Adrenaline.

Alooohaz
05-15-2016, 03:55 PM
Alohaz - don't wanna jinx it....but haven't felt a game like this - w/ this lead for good while...happy for the team - NOW DON'T BLOW IT !!!

Kc61
05-15-2016, 03:56 PM
What is the explanation for Votto this year? Injury, bad luck, mechanics, age, distraction?

Haven't read anything that analyzes his problems in a serious way.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 03:58 PM
That 95 mph fastball Delabar K'd Burress with had some nice life on it.

_Sir_Charles_
05-15-2016, 04:00 PM
I'm afraid to look at Votto's slash line against lefties this year.

Lefties or righties...it's pretty depressing either way this year.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:00 PM
What is the explanation for Votto this year? Injury, bad luck, mechanics, age, distraction?

Haven't read anything that analyzes his problems in a serious way.

https://redlegnation.com/2016/04/29/neutralizing-joey-votto/

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 04:01 PM
That 95 mph fastball Delabar K'd Burress with had some nice life on it.

Delabar throws a heavy ball. He likely will saw off a lot of bats.

Tadasimha
05-15-2016, 04:03 PM
Not often you see guys named for Beck albums hit into force outs! ;)

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:05 PM
Were the fans taunting Votto?

He just majorly went out of his way to tease them and not throw a foul into the stands. Pretty funny, if you ask me.

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 04:06 PM
It's so frustrating watching the bullpen pitch. Find the flipping plate!

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:06 PM
Chris sounds surprised that Delabar is walking guys, he shouldn't be.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:08 PM
And Holt doesn't have that one. Boink off the glove.

7-2 game.

traderumor
05-15-2016, 04:09 PM
Were the fans taunting Votto?

He just majorly went out of his way to tease them and not throw a foul into the stands. Pretty funny, if you ask me.

It's Philly, so little doubt they were heckling him brutally.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:10 PM
It's Philly, so little doubt they were heckling him brutally.Yea, probably a given.

Good for Joey, Philly fans deserve it. :D

traderumor
05-15-2016, 04:11 PM
We have a bullpen full of Nick "Full Count" Massett types.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 04:13 PM
A few more runs would make me feel a bit more comfortable..

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:13 PM
We have a bullpen full of Nick "Full Count" Massett types.Speaking of Nick, I hear his latest rehab assignment is going great. Throwing free and easy.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:15 PM
Bruce on with a walk.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:15 PM
Nice day for Jay, a double, a single, and two walks.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:16 PM
Duvall awarded 1st on catcher's interference.

_Sir_Charles_
05-15-2016, 04:16 PM
Speaking of Nick, I hear his latest rehab assignment is going great. Throwing free and easy.

Last I heard he was with the Nationals...still right?

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 04:16 PM
Bruce and Duvall have been on base all day.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:18 PM
Didn't Edwin Encarnacion always get a lot of catcher's interference calls with the Reds?

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 04:18 PM
Duvall reaches on catcher's interference. Scored E2, no AB charged against Duvall.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 04:19 PM
Didn't Edwin Encarnacion always get a lot of catcher's interference calls with the Reds?

More than any Red that I can remember.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 04:19 PM
Didn't Edwin Encarnacion always get a lot of catcher's interference calls with the Reds?

Yes, because he had an exceptionally long swing.

BCubb2003
05-15-2016, 04:20 PM
Last I heard he was with the Nationals...still right?

Yes, pitching in Syracuse.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:20 PM
A few ugly PAs this series by Barnhart.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:20 PM
Last I heard he was with the Nationals...still right?No idea... I was just poking fun.

Seemed like for several years all we heard was "Nick Masset feels great, throwing well!" and then the next day it was "Nick Masset suffers setback, out 2 more months".

He was Sean Marshall v1.0

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 04:21 PM
Duvall reaches on catcher's interference. Scored E2, no AB charged against Duvall.

And it counts on his OBP..

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:22 PM
No idea... I was just poking fun.

Seemed like for several years all we heard was "Nick Masset feels great, throwing well!" and then the next day it was "Nick Masset suffers setback, out 2 more months".

He was Sean Marshall v1.0
Just wait till Bill Bray is feeling better!

malcontent
05-15-2016, 04:23 PM
Taking a called third down 0-2 with two runners in scoring position and two outs.

:thumbdown:

RedsfaninMT
05-15-2016, 04:23 PM
No idea... I was just poking fun.

Seemed like for several years all we heard was "Nick Masset feels great, throwing well!" and then the next day it was "Nick Masset suffers setback, out 2 more months".

He was Sean Marshall v1.0

Funny, because I was going to post a "you mean Sean Marshall" response, but decided against it. Your memory of things is very much inline with mine.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 04:24 PM
Yes, pitching in Syracuse.

In my mind, Syracuse is still a Blue Jays farm team. My first professional game was Syracuse at Columbus in 1981 at Cooper Stadium, during the MLB strike. My Little League coach took the whole team to the game for Batting Helmet Night. We all had seats behind the first base dugout, wearing our free Yankees batting helmets.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:26 PM
Just wait till Bill Bray is feeling better!Every time I used to drive past these signs I'd think about Bill Bray.

http://www.thebluebook.com/inc/img/qp/167300/bilbrey-construction-inc-logo.png

Red Raindog
05-15-2016, 04:27 PM
I'm afraid to look at Votto's slash line against lefties this year.

.188 .333 .281 .614

BCubb2003
05-15-2016, 04:28 PM
In my mind, Syracuse is still a Blue Jays farm team. My first professional game was Syracuse at Columbus in 1981 at Cooper Stadium, during the MLB strike. My Little League coach took the whole team to the game for Batting Helmet Night. We all had seats behind the first base dugout, wearing our free Yankees batting helmets.

Syracuse folks would rather have a New York team, but they've been able to see Strasburg and Harper on their fast rise.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 04:28 PM
First 1-2-3 inning for either team in this game..

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:28 PM
Nice inning from Wood.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:31 PM
.188 .333 .281 .614http://cdn.onlineincometeacher.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/The-Horror-Of-Bad-Writing-How-Not-To-Get-Your-Guest-Post-Published.jpg?b6fad9

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:32 PM
Chris opining how surprised he was Peraza didn't start today.

Us too, Chris.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 04:34 PM
Chris opining how surprised he was Peraza didn't start today.

Us too, Chris.

They said De Jesus' Mother was there to watch him play today..:)

Dis is da big leagues

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:34 PM
Holt singles with 1 out.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 04:37 PM
Suarez has hit the ball hard today.

RedsfaninMT
05-15-2016, 04:39 PM
I can't even watch the game and Joey's swings are painful.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:39 PM
Votto K's again, Phans love it.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:40 PM
Ah, Joey.

Would have loved to see him go deep there and stick it to Philly's "fans". No such luck.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 04:40 PM
This guy throws hard but those pitches were on the plate... not inside.

Red Raindog
05-15-2016, 04:41 PM
when does the "Do the Reds need to platoon at 1st?" thread start?

Raindog ducks for cover

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:42 PM
Mark Sheldon
‏@m_sheldon
Cheers as Votto struck out 3rd time. Hitless in his last 14 PA since a HR on Monday. #reds

oof

_Sir_Charles_
05-15-2016, 04:43 PM
Not a good day for Mr. Votto.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:43 PM
Jeez, Joey.

OnBaseMachine
05-15-2016, 04:43 PM
That's an error. Votto is lost.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 04:44 PM
Joey needs to keep the ball in front of him...
At bat and in the field..

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:44 PM
That's an error. Votto is lost.
To be fair, he was doing that even when he was OPSing 1.000

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 04:47 PM
Servo.....did you not correct me when I said Ohlendorf was like Kevin Gregg Part Duex during the 1st week of the season?

This guy just throws straight meatballs to me.

BCubb2003
05-15-2016, 04:48 PM
4-6-not-to-be-3

Strikes Out Looking
05-15-2016, 04:48 PM
[QUOTE=Ron Madden;3468118]Joey needs to keep the ball in front of him...
At bat and in the field..[/QUOTE

It's the curse of the day off. He shouldn't have had two days in a row of not playing - he's a creature of habit and needs to be in there every day the Reds have a game. I blame Price for his Dustymetric way of managing - like the fact that Cozart gets so many days off.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:48 PM
Ugh reds bullpen

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:50 PM
Servo.....did you not correct me when I said Ohlendorf was like Kevin Gregg Part Duex during the 1st week of the season?

This guy just throws straight meatballs to me.
Well...he has lived down to expectations, but his peripherals are still a lot better than Gregg's.

And this run here shouldn't really be earned thanks to that ole job by Votto, but what are ya gonna do.

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Drew Hayes warming lol

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 04:52 PM
Whoever said there is no crying in baseball never saw this bullpen pitch.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:53 PM
7-3 game to the 9th.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:54 PM
They must have been taunting Joey brutally all weekend.

Getting into it with fans like that isn't his normal MO.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 04:55 PM
lol Votto may suck right now but he still rules, Phillies fans have that coming

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:56 PM
lol Votto may suck right now but he still rules, Phillies fans have that comingIndeed.

I can only assume they've gone out of their way to earn his disdain. Joey's the last guy I would ever expect it from.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 04:57 PM
Philly fans being appalled that someone is being a jerk to them? :cry:

malcontent
05-15-2016, 04:57 PM
Votto continues the taunting battle, now with individual kids. Not bright, at all.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 04:58 PM
Votto continues the taunting battle, now with individual kids. Not bright, at all.Someone in that crowd must have seriously pissed him off.

I'd love to know the whole story.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 04:59 PM
Indeed.

I can only assume they've gone out of their way to earn his disdain. Joey's the last guy I would ever expect it from.

He should have spiked it at the pitcher's mound like Pete used to do.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 05:00 PM
Votto continues the taunting battle, now with individual kids. Not bright, at all.
You really hate the guy, huh?

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 05:00 PM
Votto continues the taunting battle, now with individual kids. Not bright, at all.

You kidding? Kids from Philly have vocabularies like Teamsters.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 05:00 PM
Another hit for Bruce

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 05:02 PM
Philly Kids come out cursing right out the womb.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 05:04 PM
Cingrani warming up

- - - Updated - - -

Maybe those kids insulted Canada, or even Nibbles.

RiverRat13
05-15-2016, 05:07 PM
Duvall with a nice slash line - .286/.330/.571.

malcontent
05-15-2016, 05:07 PM
You really hate the guy, huh?
When was the last time you saw a player fake-tossing the ball to fans?

I've never seen it before. If you're being "taunted" by fans...common sense tells you a little courtesy would help matters.

RedsfaninMT
05-15-2016, 05:08 PM
7 stranded by Barnhart? That's not a great number for the entire team.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 05:08 PM
You really hate the guy, huh?I wouldn't say he hates Votto.

I'd just say that maybe, he's not content with Votto. :-p

_Sir_Charles_
05-15-2016, 05:09 PM
Cozart! BOOM!

9-3 Reds

The Operator
05-15-2016, 05:09 PM
When was the last time you saw a player fake-tossing the ball to fans?

I've never seen it before. If you're being "taunted" by fans...common sense tells you a little courtesy would help matters.It's Philly. Their own players have even gotten into it with the fans there.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 05:09 PM
9-3 Good Guys!!!

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 05:09 PM
Two-run PH single for Zack Attack!

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 05:10 PM
When was the last time you saw a player fake-tossing the ball to fans?

I've never seen it before. If you're being "taunted" by fans...common sense tells you a little courtesy would help matters.
I mean you take these shots ("not bright) at Votto a lot, just wondering if perhaps you wanted to lay your chips on the table.

I've seen players have fun like that with the fans plenty of times. And even if a guy who wasn't one of my favorite Reds did it to the Philly fans, I would still laugh.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 05:10 PM
It's Philly. Their own players have even gotten into it with the fans there.

Just ask Ritchie Allen.

TheBigLebowski
05-15-2016, 05:11 PM
Just ask Ritchie Allen.

And Santie Claus.

WVRedsFan
05-15-2016, 05:12 PM
I'm taking a nice long breath. Surely a 6-run lead is safe?

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 05:13 PM
Bases juiced for Geno

40YrRedsFan
05-15-2016, 05:13 PM
Araujo pitches like he came out of the Reds bullpen.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 05:14 PM
lol @ that jamoke grabbing the foul ball

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 05:14 PM
I was really looking forward to Joey vs. Philly again.

malcontent
05-15-2016, 05:15 PM
I mean you take these shots ("not bright) at Votto a lot, just wondering if perhaps you wanted to lay your chips on the table.
Everyone on this board knows I'm not a Votto fan.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 05:15 PM
And Santie Claus.And JD Drew. He still has the imprint of a Duracell battery in his forehead thanks to them.

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 05:17 PM
I'm taking a nice long breath. Surely a 6-run lead is safe?
Drew Hayes in....I'm not sure.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 05:17 PM
I'm taking a nice long breath. Surely a 6-run lead is safe?

Drew Hayes is first to the post.

The Operator
05-15-2016, 05:17 PM
Oh, and remember when that Philly fan intentionally threw up on a girl?


Classy city.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 05:19 PM
Do any of our relievers ever get the first man out in the 9th inning?

The Operator
05-15-2016, 05:19 PM
Oh, and then remember the time Eagles fans cheered the sight of a motionless Michael Irvin when he suffered a career ending neck injury?

Tom Servo
05-15-2016, 05:20 PM
Everyone on this board knows I'm not a Votto fan.
I actually did not know that, though I kind of assumed due to the various pot shots. I guess congrats on finally having it pay off this year.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 05:20 PM
Oh, and remember when that Philly fan intentionally threw up on a girl?


Classy city.

I have only been in two altercations with opposing fans at a sporting event, and both times it was with Philadelphia fans. One was with a Phillies fan at a Reds-Phillies game at GABP, and the other was with an Owls fan at an OU-Temple football game in Athens.

40YrRedsFan
05-15-2016, 05:21 PM
First time I've seen Hayes, and after 2 hitters, I'm not impressed. Tries to guide the ball instead of throwing it. IMO, he won't be here long.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 05:22 PM
So Peraza, who is an actual prospect does not start at SS in a meaningless game but now that it's the 9th..and you have a lead....you put in the son of Ben Weber and Josias? Manzanillo to close it out?

The Operator
05-15-2016, 05:22 PM
Bases loaded. 1 out.

Good lord, this bullpen.

_Sir_Charles_
05-15-2016, 05:23 PM
I actually did not know that, though I kind of assumed due to the various pot shots. I guess congrats on finally having it pay off this year.

Joey's actually got a personality type that I can easily understand turning off some fans (quiet, detatched, un-emotional quite often). Now someone not appreciating his talent/ability...that one I will never understand.

Big Klu
05-15-2016, 05:23 PM
First time I've seen Hayes, and after 2 hitters, I'm not impressed. Tries to guide the ball instead of throwing it. IMO, he won't be here long.

I would send him back to Louisville when Billy Hamilton returns.

Tony Cloninger
05-15-2016, 05:24 PM
Mike Schmidt? How did he forgive those people for the hell he was put through?
Greg Luzinski?
Donovan McNabb?

Only WC Fields wishes he was in Philadelphia but he was always drunk.

Ron Madden
05-15-2016, 05:25 PM
First time I've seen Hayes, and after 2 hitters, I'm not impressed. Tries to guide the ball instead of throwing it. IMO, he won't be here long.

There has to be a better choice in the farm system.