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klw
05-17-2016, 02:31 PM
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Nice Lineup

Cozart SS
Hamilton CF
Votto 1B
Phillips DH
Bruce RF
Suarez 3B
Duvall LF
Peraza 2B
Barnhart C


Simon P
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DH Santana
2B Kipnis
SS Lindor
1B Napoli
3B Ramirez
C Gomes
RF Chisenhall
LF Byrd
CF Davis

P Salazar



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Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 02:36 PM
Glad that Peraza is playing if he's going to be up here for the time being. Don't get why you move Suarez out of the #2 hole with the way he's been swinging it the last few days.

TheBigLebowski
05-17-2016, 02:54 PM
If the lineup produces less than 13 runs it's all a moot point.

lollipopcurve
05-17-2016, 03:15 PM
Been waiting for Price to give Peraza a start at 2B.

757690
05-17-2016, 03:31 PM
The fact that thE Reds are okay with Peraza playing 2B in the majors, but not SS, is revealing.

klw
05-17-2016, 03:33 PM
Don't get why you move Suarez out of the #2 hole with the way he's been swinging it the last few days.

That was my question but it appears the two options for the second spot are Hamilton and Suarez. They both have swung well in the 2 spot but Hamilton appears to be the less sure of a thing and therefore keep him at 2 to not mess with his vibe, Suarez can likely hash it better.

Other option would be to go Hamilton 1, Suarez 2 and drop Mr. Cozart and his OBP=BA to the 6 spot.

CySeymour
05-17-2016, 03:37 PM
Glad that Peraza is playing if he's going to be up here for the time being. Don't get why you move Suarez out of the #2 hole with the way he's been swinging it the last few days.

Or dropping Duvall all the way to 7th with the way he's been hitting.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2016, 04:23 PM
If the lineup produces less than 13 runs it's all a moot point.

They need 16. Thirteen wouldn't have been enough last night.

TheBigLebowski
05-17-2016, 04:33 PM
They need 16. Thirteen wouldn't have been enough last night.

My hope is that the 16 was a data point. I fully believe these guys can hold the tribe to 13.

toledodan
05-17-2016, 05:43 PM
Or dropping Duvall all the way to 7th with the way he's been hitting.

SS and CF have to bat 1-2 dude :evil:

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2016, 06:10 PM
The fact that thE Reds are okay with Peraza playing 2B in the majors, but not SS, is revealing.

I believe you are reading way too much into this.

I don't understand taking Suarez out of the #2 spot.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:23 PM
Nothing doing after 1, the only baserunner a long single by Lindor for the Tribe.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2016, 06:26 PM
Man I love Francisco Lindor's game.

757690
05-17-2016, 06:26 PM
I believe you are reading way too much into this.

I don't understand taking Suarez out of the #2 spot.

I'm reading that the Reds don't feel that Peraza is ready to play SS in the majors yet. Maybe that's too much, but that's what I'm reading.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:27 PM
BP walk, Bruce single to right to start the 2nd.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2016, 06:29 PM
I'm reading that the Reds don't feel that Peraza is ready to play SS in the majors yet. Maybe that's too much, but that's what I'm reading.

On what basis?

757690
05-17-2016, 06:31 PM
On what basis?

They had a chance to play him at SS when they rested Cozart. They started De Jesus. But they had no problem playing him in CF, which he has little experience, and now at 2B. If they thought he could handle it, they would have given him a chance to play it.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:31 PM
Suarez Ks, Duvall fouls out to catcher. Not looking so hot for this inning.

Peraza grounds out to 2nd, Reds can't make Salazar pay.

'69
05-17-2016, 06:33 PM
I'm reading that the Reds don't feel that Peraza is ready to play SS in the majors yet. Maybe that's too much, but that's what I'm reading.

Isn't his arm at SS the issue?

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2016, 06:34 PM
They had a chance to play him at SS when they rested Cozart. They started De Jesus. But they had no problem playing him in CF, which he has little experience, and now at 2B. If they thought he could handle it, they would have given him a chance to play it.

Yeah you're reading way too much into this. Shortstop is his natural position.

757690
05-17-2016, 06:34 PM
Isn't his arm at SS the issue?

That is what the scouting reports said when he was in the Braves organization.

Ron Madden
05-17-2016, 06:37 PM
I heard or read somewhere..
The only reason Peraza didn't play SS Sunday was Price had told De Jesus a few days before that he would start @ SS on Sunday..
De Jesus' Mother was in town to watch him play.

But who knows.

757690
05-17-2016, 06:38 PM
Yeah you're reading way too much into this. Shortstop is his natural position.

Then why didn't they play him there when they rested Cozart?

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:38 PM
Yan Gomes almost homers but it's just a long single.

757690
05-17-2016, 06:38 PM
I heard or read somewhere..
The only reason Peraza didn't play SS Sunday was Price had told De Jesus a few days before that he would start @ SS on Sunday..
De Jesus' Mother was in town to watch him play.

But who knows.

Okay. Thanks. I did not hear that. That could explain it.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2016, 06:39 PM
Then why didn't they play him there when they rested Cozart?

Because Bryan Price decided to play De Jesus.

757690
05-17-2016, 06:40 PM
Because Bryan Price decided to play De Jesus.

Rom Madden solved the mystery. But it was a very unique reason.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:43 PM
Awful to not get the catcher there. Bruce has to do better than a 2-hop throw there. 1-hop at the most.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:44 PM
1-0 Indians after a pair of singles with two outs following Gomes' single. Decent throw by Bruce, but it bounced too much and Barnhart couldn't catch it.

Ron Madden
05-17-2016, 06:44 PM
The throw looked to be in time to get him at home but the ball got away from Tuck.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:44 PM
1-0 Indians after a pair of singles with two outs following Gomes' single. Decent throw by Bruce, but it bounced too much and Barnhart couldn't catch it.

Not a "decent" throw for MLB RF standards. High school RF? Perhaps.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:45 PM
Simon working at a snail's pace.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:45 PM
The throw looked to be in time to get him at home but the ball got away from Tuck.

Nearly impossible bounce for Barnhart. Bruce can't throw a worm-burner there.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:45 PM
Not a "decent" throw for MLB RF standards. High school RF? Perhaps.
Itching for an argument, eh. It was slightly short, it was still very much playable.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:46 PM
Itching for an argument, eh. It was slightly short, it was still very much playable.

No, I'm watching the game and pointing out the obvious. That was a bad throw. No need for a 2-hop throw there.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:47 PM
No, I'm watching the game and pointing out the obvious. That was a bad throw. No need for a 2-hop throw there.
Zach Buchanan ‏@ZachENQ 4m4 minutes ago
That was a nice throw by Bruce, but Tucker couldn't handle it. Indians lead 1-0

Go after the beat writer, not really interested in the endless back and forth right now.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:47 PM
Bruce's D continues to hurt Simon. Inning should be over.

Ron Madden
05-17-2016, 06:47 PM
Nearly impossible bounce for Barnhart. Bruce can't throw a worm-burner there.

You're making the throw a lot worse than it was.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:48 PM
2-0 Tribe. That might do it.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:49 PM
Bruce's D continues to hurt Simon. Inning should be over.
Are you serious? Who blames the outfielder for not nailing a runner at home plate when you have a bad pitcher giving up rocket singles to the outfield?

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:50 PM
You're making the throw a lot worse than it was.

Watch the replay again and tell me how that's a good throw from a MLB right fielder. It was bad.

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Are you serious? Who blames the outfielder for not nailing a runner at home plate when you have a bad pitcher giving up rocket singles to the outfield?

With a catcher running with two outs who should have been gunned down? Inning over with any sort of good throw.

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Bruce's bad throw costs the Reds 3 runs. 4-0 Tribe. Ballgame.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 06:50 PM
This is getting out of hand early -- and my head still hurts from the early drinking during last night's game

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:50 PM
4-0 Indians.

Anytime Simon wants to get out of the Spring Training mode I've been hearing about for weeks, I'm ready.

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 06:51 PM
Gonna be a long night at the ballpark......especially if the bullpen comes in early.

757690
05-17-2016, 06:51 PM
4-0 Indians.

Anytime Simon wants to get out of the Spring Training mode I've been hearing about for weeks, I'm ready.

Last two starts were fine.

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 06:52 PM
simon is great.. if only bruce wouldnīt be that bad heīll win the cy

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:52 PM
Last two starts were fine.

Defense played well behind him. Which helps. But let's just blame everything on Pasta when our RF can't throw the ball to home plate on one hop from shallow RF.

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 06:52 PM
All this without Brantley in the lineup.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:53 PM
simon is great.. if only bruce wouldnīt be that bad heīll win the cy

Hilarious! That was so funny. Well played!

Ron Madden
05-17-2016, 06:54 PM
Watch the replay again and tell me how that's a good throw from a MLB right fielder. It was bad.

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With a catcher running with two outs who should have been gunned down? Inning over with any sort of good throw.

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Bruce's bad throw costs the Reds 3 runs. 4-0 Tribe. Ballgame.

It wasn't that bad of a throw but I'm not gonna argue with you.

757690
05-17-2016, 06:54 PM
Defense played well behind him. Which helps. But let's just blame everything on Pasta when our RF can't throw the ball to home plate on one hop from shallow RF.

Nah, Simon stinks today. Bruce and Tucker didn't help, but they aren't giving up ropes.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:54 PM
Nice catch Billy. That's an outfielder getting his job done defensively. Inning finally over.

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 06:54 PM
Hilarious! That was so funny. Well played!

your accusations towards bruce for everything he does defensively (no mather how good or bad they are) are even more funny though...

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:55 PM
Nah, Simon stinks today. Bruce and Tucker didn't help, but they aren't giving up ropes.

Inning still should have been over with only 1 run scoring. Not saying Pasta is good. But I'm also saying Bruce definitely isn't good defensively. At least he's hitting well so we can flip him for a good prospect or two near the deadline.

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 06:56 PM
I was going to get tickets for the Dodgers series in LA next week, but I'm reconsidering. Not much to watch from the Reds side.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:56 PM
your accusations towards bruce for everything he does defensively (no mather how good or bad they are) are even more funny though...

Thank you. Also: Check the defensive stats for Jay. You'll be amazed. (If you're in the camp that thinks he's good defensively.)

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 06:58 PM
Salazar isn't giving up more than 3 runs tonight. I hope everyone is looking forward to the NBA Draft lottery tonight because this game is over.

Chip R
05-17-2016, 06:58 PM
Get a room, you two.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 06:59 PM
Thank you. Also: Check the defensive stats for Jay. You'll be amazed. (If you're in the camp that thinks he's good defensively.)
Who is arguing anything about his defense? We have a thread in the ORG about that. All we are talking about is the throw. It was fine. It wasn't perfect, but it was playable, and Barnhart couldn't find the handle. It doesn't really matter when the pitcher is giving up uncatchable ROCKETS to the outfield every damn hitter in the lineup.

Chuckie
05-17-2016, 07:02 PM
Who is arguing anything about his defense? We have a thread in the ORG about that. All we are talking about is the throw. It was fine. It wasn't perfect, but it was playable, and Barnhart couldn't find the handle. It doesn't really matter when the pitcher is giving up uncatchable ROCKETS to the outfield every damn hitter in the lineup.

No, it wasn't fine. It was bad. A 2-hopper that gives the catcher almost no chance of catching the ball is not a good throw. A good RF throws that ball on the fly or with one hop max. Not a fine throw. Just a bad one. Especially for an MLB RF.

Let's just agree to disagree on this one. Or we can keep disagreeing. Whichever.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 07:08 PM
I'm so ready to say goodbye AGAIN to Simon. I can't recall a Reds pitcher I've disliked more outside of Majewski.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 07:09 PM
The fact that thE Reds are okay with Peraza playing 2B in the majors, but not SS, is revealing.

Not really IMO. I think it's pretty well known that 2b is his better position by far.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2016, 07:10 PM
Simon's bad pitching has the Reds in a 4-0 hole.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 07:11 PM
Simon's bad pitching has the Reds in a 4-0 hole.

correction -- 6-0 now

:help:

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2016, 07:11 PM
6-0 now. 21-6 the last two nights.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 07:12 PM
Give me John Danks, he can at least go 5-6 innings.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 07:12 PM
Yeah you're reading way too much into this. Shortstop is his natural position.

Disagree. 2b is his natural position. Range is excellent, foot work is average, hands are average, arm is below average. At least that's what I've read/heard. If someone can show me otherwise...I'm open to listening.

This just in....Simon sucks.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2016, 07:12 PM
Make it 7-0.

TheBigLebowski
05-17-2016, 07:12 PM
Can't any of these jackasses get Rajai Davis????

Ron Madden
05-17-2016, 07:13 PM
Damn Jay Bruce it's 7-0 now

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 07:13 PM
and where is all the talk about peraza not able to get the ball?

inning would have been long over... poor simon

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 07:13 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8x6pe2tdHyg/TQN0BeW40sI/AAAAAAAAACI/WbizJxKHNNs/s1600/Stop+The+Pain.jpg

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2016, 07:14 PM
Delabar warming up. We need a rainout for about a month straight

klw
05-17-2016, 07:14 PM
I went away for a bit. Came back 7 runs later. I may go away for a bit again.

TheBigLebowski
05-17-2016, 07:16 PM
I HATE this team. Hate it.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 07:18 PM
You know, this team was doing a lot better before Thom came back.

Rantly
05-17-2016, 07:19 PM
Give me John Danks, he can at least go 5-6 innings.

3rd or 4th time I've seen you mention Danks...cousin or something?

TheBigLebowski
05-17-2016, 07:22 PM
Votto. Just blech.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 07:22 PM
3rd or 4th time I've seen you mention Danks...cousin or something?
I just think he's halfway competent, certainly better than Simon. He'll give up runs, but he'll go several innings, something Simon's fans told us was his calling card. Not so much.

BenHayes
05-17-2016, 07:24 PM
I don't know about Bruce but can't imagine professional players like Phillips or Votto giving a damn day after day of this crap!

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 07:28 PM
You know, we could always change the forum name to TribeZone and act like we've always been Cleveland fans and I don't think much of the outside world would notice.

Ron Madden
05-17-2016, 07:30 PM
I think everybody in Cleveland has a hit off Simon..

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 07:31 PM
I don't know about Bruce but can't imagine professional players like Phillips or Votto giving a damn day after day of this crap!Maybe it's just me, but I can almost see it. If night after night you have little chance of winning or even competing, it's easy to throw up your hands and just go through the motions. The fact that this team traded away all the starters and depended on non-proven players (injuries happen and they knew homer was iffy) for starters and relief is tantamount to a large insult to Reds fans.

'69
05-17-2016, 07:34 PM
Well finally able to watch and Simon deals a 1-2-3 inning.

Hay

'69
05-17-2016, 07:36 PM
Lol @ Chuckie, take every skill on this teams D, it would rank, 1. Hamilton's speed, 2. BP's hands, 3. Bruce's arm

KronoRed
05-17-2016, 07:39 PM
You know, this team was doing a lot better before Thom came back.

He and Simon can catch the same bus out of town.

'69
05-17-2016, 07:39 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I can almost see it. If night after night you have little chance of winning or even competing, it's easy to throw up your hands and just go through the motions. The fact that this team traded away all the starters and depended on non-proven players (injuries happen and they knew homer was iffy) for starters and relief is tantamount to a large insult to Reds fans.

You know when a team has quit on itself and haven't seen it, yet, to their credit.

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 07:39 PM
Sounds like Thom knows Riggleman is the next manager and is preparing everyone in advance.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 07:40 PM
Salazar is good, but it looks like the Reds have packed it in for the night.

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 07:46 PM
Chris Welsh calls out the Reds' defense for not giving a lot of effort.

'69
05-17-2016, 07:46 PM
One of those games, one of those series, one of those seasons. Getting to know 'em well.

BenHayes
05-17-2016, 07:47 PM
Maybe this is playing into Mr. Williams overall plan.Get Votto, Phillips and Bruce so POed they will gladly accept a trade to anywhere on the planet thus saving even more money to spend on analytics.

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 07:51 PM
I've never seen anything like this. Ever.

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 07:54 PM
I've never seen anything like this. Ever.

I have...I saw the 1962 Mets.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 07:54 PM
I have...I saw the 1962 Mets.

I was going to post the same thing! - We're old

BCubb2003
05-17-2016, 07:55 PM
I have...I saw the 1962 Mets.

"Can't anybody here play this game?"

'69
05-17-2016, 07:56 PM
I have...I saw the 1962 Mets.

They lost a ton, was it as ugly though...

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 07:57 PM
I was around in 62, but I believe this is worse.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 07:58 PM
They lost a ton, was it as ugly though...

they went 40-120

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 07:58 PM
You guys, we're not even the worst team in the league lol

Roy Tucker
05-17-2016, 07:59 PM
Delabar has the yips.

'69
05-17-2016, 07:59 PM
:help:


they went 40-120

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 07:59 PM
You guys, we're not even the worst team in the league lol

yet

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 07:59 PM
I feel sorry for Barnhart...having to catch these so-called pitchers. They throw a pitch, but have no clue where it's going. Barnhart jumping all over to try to catch, or at least stop the ball.

'69
05-17-2016, 07:59 PM
You guys, we're not even the worst team in the league lol

Yeah, when do the reds play that team?

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 07:59 PM
I think I've seen enough to know, they are phoning it in now. Totally.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:00 PM
ump needs to greatly expand the strike zone to put this thing mercifully to bed

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:01 PM
Delabar was walking like 8 guys per 9 innings in AAA, really not sure what they were expecting here.

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 08:01 PM
I blame Bruce, he should stand behind the plate with a sign showing the strikezone... perhaps they could throw a strike than...

KronoRed
05-17-2016, 08:01 PM
Yeah, when do the reds play that team?

June 13-16 vs Atlanta, winner gets some expired hot dogs, loser gets contracted.

Roy Tucker
05-17-2016, 08:02 PM
ump needs to greatly expand the strike zone to put this thing mercifully to bed

This isn't little league. At least in one of the dugouts.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:02 PM
This isn't little league. At least in one of the dugouts.

post of the night

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:03 PM
They lost a ton, was it as ugly though...

It was laughable....no opponent took them seriously. It was a clown show. I can say one thing...the pitching was not THIS bad.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:03 PM
LOL.

This is the most pathetic display I've ever seen.

Ron Madden
05-17-2016, 08:03 PM
I think I've seen enough to know, they are phoning it in now. Totally.

I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe the players or coaching staff have thrown in the towel...
This team is just cursed with terrible pitching right now.

'69
05-17-2016, 08:04 PM
Poor Price, good lord

BCubb2003
05-17-2016, 08:04 PM
These walks don't just haunt, they steal your soul.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:04 PM
amazing

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:04 PM
I don't think Delabar has it tonight.

Raisor
05-17-2016, 08:05 PM
I don't like Mondays

Roy Tucker
05-17-2016, 08:06 PM
I know this isn't Price's fault, but his days are numbered. The Reds are looking for a dead cat bounce.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:06 PM
I don't think Delabar has it tonight.

"We just got to get Delly going again, I know he can throw the ball better than we have seen."

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:06 PM
I don't think Delabar has it tonight."I think you can go get him now..."

http://socalledfantasyexperts.com/wp-content/uploads/lou-brown-200x300.jpg

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:07 PM
I'll say this and it's the only time you'll hear it from me, but I really feel for Price. He thought these guys could get people out and there is not a consistently dependable pitcher in that dugout. They'll be lucky to win 60 games.

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:08 PM
Isn't there any position player on the Reds that has a pitching background? Put him in. It's not a joke now....the jokes have already been on the mound.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:08 PM
It was laughable....no opponent took them seriously. It was a clown show. I can say one thing...the pitching was not THIS bad.

Mets team ERA - 5.04 -- they walked 571 in 1430 innings

757690
05-17-2016, 08:08 PM
Since the Reds lead 4-0 yesterday, they have given up 25 runs.

redsfanmia
05-17-2016, 08:09 PM
I'll say this and it's the only time you'll hear it from me, but I really feel for Price. He thought these guys could get people out and there is not a consistently dependable pitcher in that dugout. They'll be lucky to win 60 games.

Did he honestly think they could get guys out or were they the best of a bad situation?

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:09 PM
I don't like Mondays

Tuesdays haven't been much of an improvement

redsfanmia
05-17-2016, 08:10 PM
Isn't there any position player on the Reds that has a pitching background? Put him in. It's not a joke now....the jokes have already been on the mound.

Then they blow out their arm like Jose Conseco.

TheBigLebowski
05-17-2016, 08:10 PM
I. Hate. This. Team.

'69
05-17-2016, 08:10 PM
Soon to be 3-14 on the road, that's remarkable.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:10 PM
Wilson Valdez would be the ace of this bullpen.

Roy Tucker
05-17-2016, 08:11 PM
Tuesdays haven't been much of an improvement

I got Friday on my mind.

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 08:11 PM
itīs 2am but I just donīt want to go to bed... I might miss a comeback ;)

westofyou
05-17-2016, 08:11 PM
Uncle

http://i41.tinypic.com/izq447.jpg

Raisor
05-17-2016, 08:12 PM
I'll say this and it's the only time you'll hear it from me, but I really feel for Price. He thought these guys could get people out and there is not a consistently dependable pitcher in that dugout. They'll be lucky to win 60 games.

You do understand that the front office handles who is on the roster, right?

BCubb2003
05-17-2016, 08:12 PM
Tuesdays haven't been much of an improvement

"Call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday is just as bad."

Roy Tucker
05-17-2016, 08:14 PM
Salazar is wearing high tops?

Raisor
05-17-2016, 08:14 PM
Tuesdays haven't been much of an improvement

For some reason that old Boomtown Rats song was going through my head.

#Geldof

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:15 PM
Mets team ERA - 5.04 -- they walked 571 in 1430 innings

Reds ERA before tonight was 5.34. So it will jump higher. Reds on pace for over 660 walks for the season.

Raisor
05-17-2016, 08:15 PM
I. Hate. This. Team.

You don't HAVE to watch. You might have a problem.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:16 PM
This just feels like Bryan Price's last game.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:17 PM
I left for a bit. Am I reading this box score right? Delebar came in and struck out one guy and walked FIVE?!? Wouldn't you think after the 3rd one, you'd yank him? Certainly you can't leave a guy in after 4 in one inning...right? Wow.

I'll be honest, I've been a mild defender of Bryan Price. I know at some point he's got to leave a guy in because the bullpen is extremely overtaxed...but this almost looks like forfeiting a game IMO.

Oh, and by the way...Simon STILL sucks.

'69
05-17-2016, 08:17 PM
It's going to be tough to eclipse getting no hit and losing 16-0 at home

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 08:17 PM
a walk, didnīt see that coming...

westofyou
05-17-2016, 08:18 PM
This just feels like Bryan Price's last game.

As an ineffective manager

BCubb2003
05-17-2016, 08:18 PM
This just feels like Bryan Price's last game.

It makes as much sense as firing Fredi Gonzalez.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:18 PM
Reds ERA before tonight was 5.34. So it will jump higher. Reds on pace for over 660 walks for the season.

the Mets did give up 147 unearned runs too

TheBigLebowski
05-17-2016, 08:19 PM
You don't HAVE to watch. You might have a problem.

Who said I was?

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:19 PM
You do understand that the front office handles who is on the roster, right?Well, "with the advice of the field manager" is what I've heard forever, but no matter, whatever combination they have now is a product that is not totally Bryan Price's fault. That's what I was trying to convey.

westofyou
05-17-2016, 08:19 PM
Reds ERA before tonight was 5.34. So it will jump higher. Reds on pace for over 660 walks for the season.

Cool, their team record is 659 (in 2000)

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:20 PM
Lol @ Chuckie, take every skill on this teams D, it would rank, 1. Hamilton's speed, 2. BP's hands, 3. Bruce's arm

I'd put Cozarts' footwork ahead of Bruce's arm and Barnhart's arm ahead of Jay's too.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:20 PM
For some reason that old Boomtown Rats song was going through my head.

#Geldof

swish -- missed that one :)

Raisor
05-17-2016, 08:21 PM
Who said I was?

So I guess every twent minutes or so you wander in here to say how much you hate the team? Feel free to register for RaisorZone so I can permaban you. ;)

Crumbley
05-17-2016, 08:21 PM
Blake Wood is shaking out there. These guys are so scared to throw strikes. And they are 100% right to be.

redsfanmia
05-17-2016, 08:21 PM
Well, "with the advice of the field manager" is what I've heard forever, but no matter, whatever combination they have now is a product that is not totally Bryan Price's fault. That's what I was trying to convey.

I doubt Price has much input in the roster.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:21 PM
I mean, you have to admit this is kind of funny.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:21 PM
Salazar is wearing high tops?

might be to keep the "stuff being displayed" on the field out of his shoes

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:22 PM
the Mets did give up 147 unearned runs too

Reds on pace for about 85 unearned runs.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:23 PM
I mean, you have to admit this is kind of funny.I prefer to laugh. Crying is the alternative.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:23 PM
Reds on pace for about 85 unearned runs.

it's early

Roy Tucker
05-17-2016, 08:25 PM
The NBA draft lottery is on. I'm watching that. The Reds have sunk to new lows on my TV viewing.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:25 PM
WLW crew pondering which position player Price will bring in to pitch.

RedsfaninMT
05-17-2016, 08:26 PM
I just came in and went immediately to the Game Day thread. Last post I saw about the score was at 6-0. I refused to look, but by folks comments, it was clear that 6-0 was not the case anymore. I flip to GameCast. 12-0? Holy crap!

I predict Bryan Price is done after tonight. Not a fair firing, but I think he is toast.

westofyou
05-17-2016, 08:27 PM
I mean, you have to admit this is kind of funny.

Constant beat downs always traverse into the root of absurdity and that is right in most peoples chuckle zone, hence the Amazing Mets

Roy Tucker
05-17-2016, 08:27 PM
76ers, Lakers, Celtics

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:28 PM
WLW crew pondering which position player Price will bring in to pitch.

I vote Pacheco

westofyou
05-17-2016, 08:28 PM
I just came in and went immediately to the Game Day thread. Last post I saw about the score was at 6-0. I refused to look, but by folks comments, it was clear that 6-0 was not the case anymore. I flip to GameCast. 12-0? Holy crap!

I predict Bryan Price is done after tonight. Not a fair firing, but I think he is toast.
If he's toast he's like the heel end of a the worst loaf of diet bread ever made

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:28 PM
Tonight...Reds pitchers have thrown 160 pitches in 6 innings. Only 90 for strikes.

And with that being said...it's 13-0 now. Color me unimpressed thus far with Peraza's defense.

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:28 PM
I just came in and went immediately to the Game Day thread. Last post I saw about the score was at 6-0. I refused to look, but by folks comments, it was clear that 6-0 was not the case anymore. I flip to GameCast. 12-0? Holy crap!

I predict Bryan Price is done after tonight. Not a fair firing, but I think he is toast.Won't happen yet. By the AS game, maybe.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:28 PM
13-0 the beatdown continues.

'69
05-17-2016, 08:29 PM
I'd put Cozarts' footwork ahead of Bruce's arm and Barnhart's arm ahead of Jay's too.

I will concede Cozart's footwork.

Peraza looked a bit goofy there.

Big Klu
05-17-2016, 08:29 PM
WLW crew pondering which position player Price will bring in to pitch.

When the time comes...

"Now pitching, #15, Jordan Pacheco."

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:29 PM
76ers, Lakers, Celtics

Those used to be the powerhouses. The mighty have fallen. Time marches on.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:30 PM
Jose still needs more AAA time.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:32 PM
I will concede Cozart's footwork.

Peraza looked a bit goofy there.

Agreed on Peraza. IMO Tucker's got the best arm behind the dish the Reds have seen since Johnny. He's got a rifle, an accurate one and he's got an incredibly quick pop to throw. I enjoyed the hell out of watching Ryan Hanigan back there, but Tucker's even better.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:33 PM
When the time comes...

"Now pitching, #15, Jordan Pacheco."

Personally, I want to see Tyler Holt come in...to play center and let Hamilton pitch. Just for giggles.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:34 PM
Personally, I want to see Tyler Holt come in...to play center and let Hamilton pitch. Just for giggles.

hasn't he had shoulder issues?

'69
05-17-2016, 08:34 PM
Meh. I'd rather watch this than NBA anything.

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:35 PM
I miss Joey Votto.

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 08:35 PM
call me crazy and I know its a little bit early but I do have a feeling that the reds wonīt come back in this game...

Raisor
05-17-2016, 08:35 PM
Constant beat downs always traverse into the root of absurdity and that is right in most peoples chuckle zone, hence the Amazing Mets

ChuckleZone better stay away from RaisorZone

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:37 PM
hasn't he had shoulder issues?

was it his throwing shoulder?

I obviously don't want to see anyone injured. And Jay continues to hit. Price sees this and immediately pulls Jay for Holt. :O) I kid.

Kc61
05-17-2016, 08:37 PM
Agreed on Peraza. IMO Tucker's got the best arm behind the dish the Reds have seen since Johnny. He's got a rifle, an accurate one and he's got an incredibly quick pop to throw. I enjoyed the hell out of watching Ryan Hanigan back there, but Tucker's even better.

The only thing that matters is the future-oriented players.

If Peraza looks unready in the field, that matters.

Whether Simon or Delabar can pitch anymore is just not important.

Unfortunately -- for a rebuilding team -- Reds have precious few future-oriented-players on the roster. Due to injury and the need for more seasoning. Once more of them come back or up to the club, it will be more interesting.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:37 PM
call me crazy and I know its a little bit early but I do have a feeling that the reds wonīt come back in this game...

oh ye of little faith

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:37 PM
Fun fact, I also use a 26" bass drum on my kit.

Mine's not quite as beaten down as Mr. Adams' though.

40YrRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:38 PM
The pitching has been sooooooo bad, the offense hasn't been mentioned. 1 hit tonight going into the 7th inning. Votto now down to .213 average with 0 for 3.
It can't get worse, can it?

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:38 PM
Two hits for Bruce, hitting .276/.331/.504 right now on the year.

BenHayes
05-17-2016, 08:38 PM
Tyler Holt will pitch a perfect 8th to hold it at 13.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:38 PM
was it his throwing shoulder?

I obviously don't want to see anyone injured. And Jay continues to hit. Price sees this and immediately pulls Jay for Holt. :O) I kid.

don't remember -- I was trusting you to have the answer / ducks for cover

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 08:38 PM
oh ye of little faith

screw me... weīre back in this game ;)

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:39 PM
Meanwhile the Reds have loaded the bases. At the very least, please erase the shutout.

'69
05-17-2016, 08:39 PM
It begins...

:laugh:

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:39 PM
Tyler Holt will pitch a perfect 8th to hold it at 13.

so you are assuming no runs in the bottom of the 7th......

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:39 PM
The pitching has been sooooooo bad, the offense hasn't been mentioned. 1 hit tonight doing into the 7th inning. Votto now down to .213 average with 0 for 3.
It can't get worse, can it?
I mean, Salazar IS really good. He's actually allowed only 22 hits in 42.2 innings going into tonight. The Indians offense is not good, it's pretty bad to get run out of the building by them.

tomnuetten
05-17-2016, 08:40 PM
only 12 to go

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:40 PM
Duvall! Holy crap a run.

13-1

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:41 PM
REDS SCORE!!! Back within triple slam range!

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:41 PM
Here we go baby!!!!!!!

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:42 PM
REDS SCORE!!! Back within triple slam range!"Gotta keep 'em out of triple slam rage, dude..."

http://d29zunrt9sid73.cloudfront.net/speakermedia/350x350/19117.jpg

'69
05-17-2016, 08:43 PM
Fun fact, I also use a 26" bass drum on my kit.

Mine's not quite as beaten down as Mr. Adams' though.

Ludwig Classics, Bonham kit?

Raisor
05-17-2016, 08:44 PM
The pitching has been sooooooo bad, the offense hasn't been mentioned. 1 hit tonight going into the 7th inning. Votto now down to .213 average with 0 for 3.
It can't get worse, can it?

3rd in the NL in RS in May!

Look on the bright side! It's not all bad!

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:44 PM
Holt in right, DeJesus to short, Pacheco to first, Cingrani on the bump.

Cozy, Bruce & Votto out.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:44 PM
Ludwig Classics, Bonham kit?Affirmative.

Gotta love the giant sound of a 26" kick.

'69
05-17-2016, 08:48 PM
Affirmative.

Gotta love the giant sound of a 26" kick.

Thunderous!
I have a 24" Sonor kit

Tom Servo
05-17-2016, 08:48 PM
Wait, Thom considers Houston a small-market team?

Uh...

Crumbley
05-17-2016, 08:48 PM
What in the blue hell is Thom talking about

RedsBrick
05-17-2016, 08:49 PM
I used to hate off days. Now I can't wait for the next one.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:50 PM
Thunderous!
I have a 24" Sonor kitNice! One of my favorite drummers, Tomas Haake, plays Sonor. They sound great.

Always nice to see other drummers around here.

Mutaman
05-17-2016, 08:50 PM
Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:52 PM
Wait, Thom considers Houston a small-market team?

Uh...

Cool. I always loved living in a small town. It just seems friendlier. Nice to know I'm right where I wanted to be. Houston...small town livin. LOL.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 08:52 PM
Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?Correctamundo.

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 08:53 PM
Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?He did. It was the worst I've ever seen, even in Little League.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 08:53 PM
Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

While that alone is impressive...I'm more impressed by the fact that Price could restrain himself from pouncing out of the dugout after the 2nd one. Must've been napping. :O)

BCubb2003
05-17-2016, 08:54 PM
Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

It was OBP's greatest hour.

'69
05-17-2016, 08:54 PM
Does the 4th largest city just not like baseball?

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 08:55 PM
Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

well he didn't hit any batters

RedsBrick
05-17-2016, 08:56 PM
...and to think the Reds were only -50 in run differential going into last night. We were THAT close...

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:00 PM
well he didn't hit any batters

Price just didn't give him any leeway. That quick hook didn't allow him to really show his stuff. ;)

- - - Updated - - -

LOL. Such a blowout that the AL team is letting the pitcher HIT. hehehe.

klw
05-17-2016, 09:00 PM
I went away for a bit. Came back 7 runs later. I may go away for a bit again.

I am back. They only gave up 6 more runs this time.
https://media.giphy.com/media/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW/giphy.gif

Ron Madden
05-17-2016, 09:01 PM
Tuck with a double

Raisor
05-17-2016, 09:02 PM
Who's going to die on Agents of shield tonight?

Big Klu
05-17-2016, 09:03 PM
Not only has the Tribe scored 13 runs, they've left 12 on base!

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:03 PM
Who's going to die on Agents of shield tonight?

Jon Snow. Wait...what?

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:04 PM
Just curious...does the Mercy Rule apply to major league games too?

westofyou
05-17-2016, 09:05 PM
Who's going to die on Agents of shield tonight?

I'd rather watch 69th and Vine watch nba games than watch any super hero fantasy show

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:06 PM
I'd rather watch 69th and Vine watch nba games than watch any super hero fantasy show

LOL. That was great. :O)

WVRedsFan
05-17-2016, 09:06 PM
Thom giving my friend, Huggs, love and kudos,

Dom Heffner
05-17-2016, 09:06 PM
Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

I just had a friend text me this. I came to this thread to type the exact same thing you did.

Walked 4 guys. With the bases loaded.

Unreal.

Big Klu
05-17-2016, 09:09 PM
Jon Snow. Wait...what?

Nah, it'll be Glenn.

Red Raindog
05-17-2016, 09:09 PM
I just had a friend text me this. I came to this thread to type the exact same thing you did.

Walked 4 guys. With the bases loaded.

Unreal.

what kind of friend drops a text like that on someone?

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:09 PM
I just had a friend text me this. I came to this thread to type the exact same thing you did.

Walked 4 guys. With the bases loaded.

Unreal.

Just remember, you're understating Delebar's accomplishment. He actually walked one other guy in order to load the bases in the first place.

Even Edinson Volquez was impressed.

'69
05-17-2016, 09:10 PM
A 2002 vintage Reese Witherspoon is on FX

klw
05-17-2016, 09:11 PM
I just had a friend text me this. I came to this thread to type the exact same thing you did.

Walked 4 guys. With the bases loaded.

Unreal.

My question is "did any of the Indians swing during this period and if so were they benched?"

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:12 PM
A 2002 vintage Reese Witherspoon is on FX

I'm guessing either Legally Blonde or Sweet Home Alabama.

Ironman92
05-17-2016, 09:12 PM
Thom about slipped up pretty big coming back from commercial to start bottom of the 8th....too bad they caught it

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:12 PM
My question is "did any of the Indians swing during this period and if so were they benched?"

One strikeout came after the first walk. BB,K,BB,BB,BB,BB and THEN Price got the hint.

'69
05-17-2016, 09:12 PM
I'm guessing either Legally Blonde or Sweet Home Alabama.

Yessir, Sweet

Dom Heffner
05-17-2016, 09:13 PM
what kind of friend drops a text like that on someone?

He dropped it and ran, too.

I said "No way."

Silence.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 09:14 PM
Ross Ohlendorf should not be allowed to wear Jose Rijo's jersey number. That's a crime.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:15 PM
Oh well...no AL pitcher hitting.

I don't remember Juan Uribe being that big.

The Operator
05-17-2016, 09:15 PM
Thom about slipped up pretty big coming back from commercial to start bottom of the 8th....too bad they caught itWife and I noticed the same thing.

Wish we could have heard it.

klw
05-17-2016, 09:16 PM
I looked things up on mlb.com. What is truly impressive is that all 4 walks came with a full count! Anyone can get crazy Rick Ankiel wild and miss the barn from 5 feet away but this was a full count each time! That takes some skill and luck! Now after the previous 3 batters walked with the bases loaded, Chisenhall swung at the first pitch. Unless it was cleared from the bench they should have benched him on the spot.

Dom Heffner
05-17-2016, 09:17 PM
Just remember, you're understating Delebar's accomplishment. He actually walked one other guy in order to load the bases in the first place.

Even Edinson Volquez was impressed.

I didn't realize this. The 5th walk.

Here's what I hope: I hope the players in the draft next year are better than the pickings this year.

I also hope the Braves get better.

Mutaman
05-17-2016, 09:17 PM
Redleg's management comments on the state of affairs:



https://youtu.be/5ypUz1WYens

klw
05-17-2016, 09:17 PM
To top things off, I made mixed vegetables in the microwave for dinner and added beans to the mix. The beans are not good.

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2016, 09:18 PM
I looked things up on mlb.com. What is truly impressive is that all 4 walks came with a full count! Anyone can get crazy Rick Ankiel wild and miss the barn from 5 feet away but this was a full count each time! That takes some skill and luck! Now after the previous 3 batters walked with the bases loaded, Chisenhall swung at the first pitch. Unless it was cleared from the bench they should have benched him on the spot.

You should've seen Tucker. He was all over the place diving for balls. Nobody had any idea where the ball was going to go.

'69
05-17-2016, 09:18 PM
Bob's not so bad, I'm telling ya

klw
05-17-2016, 09:20 PM
I didn't realize this. The 5th walk.

Here's what I hope: I hope the players in the draft next year are better than the pickings this year.

I also hope the Braves get better.

Even if the Braves get better, the Reds won't "pass" them. By the break the Reds will get Bailey, Desclafani, Iglesias back and Reed will be up. Lorenzen, Adelman or Finnegan will be in the pen. The Reds will go .500 after the break.