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androosh
05-23-2016, 09:02 PM
I'll take the blame for the Reds' 1-10 streak, as I've been on vacation for all but one of those games and haven't been able to watch a single one. Well, the streak stops tonight as I've started the first game thread I have in a while.

Here are the lineups:

Reds:
SS Cozart
CF Hamilton
1B Votto
2B Phillips
RF Bruce
LF Duvall
3B Pacheco
C Barnhart
P Finnegan

Dodgers:
LF @kikehndez
3B @redturn2
1B @AdrianTitan23
2B Kendrick
CF Thompson
SS Seager
RF Puig
C @AJEllis17
P Kershaw

I'll update them to look better once a graphic is available.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:02 PM
Hmmm....Jim Kelch or Vin Scully. Tough decision.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:10 PM
Cozart leads off with a double!

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:11 PM
Billy makes a "productive out", bunts Cozart to 3rd. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:12 PM
Hmmm....Jim Kelch or Vin Scully. Tough decision.

What stinks is those of us in the local area are stuck with Kelch.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:14 PM
Votto lines out to Seager. 2 outs

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:14 PM
Hit that hard but right at Seager

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:16 PM
Phillips grounds out.

This is why I hate bunting. Give away an out to Kershaw and he strands the runner.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:16 PM
Cozart needs to teach the rest of these bums how to hit.

texasdave
05-23-2016, 10:19 PM
Does anyone have any updates on the phantom trade?

androosh
05-23-2016, 10:19 PM
Can't find a graphic to use from my phone, so the first post stays as is!

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 10:20 PM
What stinks is those of us in the local area are stuck with Kelch.

I have no problem at all with Kelch & Welsh.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:20 PM
Has anyone have any updates on the phantom trade?
Cincinnati Reds
‏@Reds
The Reds have acquired from the Orioles 2 international signing bonus slots for RHP Franderlyn Romero.

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 10:22 PM
Can't find a graphic to use from my phone, so the first post stays as is!

I have no idea who half of these "@" people are!

CWRed
05-23-2016, 10:22 PM
Phillips grounds out.

This is why I hate bunting. Give away an out to Kershaw and he strands the runner.

Exactly.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:23 PM
Wow Brandon boots an easy one. Should have been an easy 10 pitch inning.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:23 PM
Phillips flat out boots an easy grounder, Gonzalez on first with 2 outs.

texasdave
05-23-2016, 10:23 PM
Cincinnati Reds
‏@Reds
The Reds have acquired from the Orioles 2 international signing bonus slots for RHP Franderlyn Romero.

For the uneducated, like myself, what does that mean exactly? Any dollar amounts?

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 10:23 PM
Wow! E4 on an easy grounder!

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:23 PM
Ugh. Looked like a quick easy inning for Finnegan and BP boots the two out grounder.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:25 PM
Finnegan gets rattled and walks the next batter. C'mon, get it together.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:25 PM
Now a walk. This easy inning has got complicated fast

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:27 PM
Finnegan gets rattled and walks the next batter. C'mon, get it together.
Don't think he was rattled, just didn't hit his spots.

I still can't believe BP booted that ball, even Vin Scully says a 6 year old could make that play.

757690
05-23-2016, 10:27 PM
Phillips grounds out.

This is why I hate bunting. Give away an out to Kershaw and he strands the runner.

Kershaw is exactly who you should bunt against. He's not walking you, and there's a more than good chance he will strike you out. Hamilton was going to make an out against Kershaw, might was well make it productive.

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 10:27 PM
I was unaware until yesterday that Trayce Thompson is the son of former Laker Mychal Thompson.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:27 PM
Trayce Thompson, the guy The Reds helped the Dodgers acquire, grounds out and the inning is over.

klw
05-23-2016, 10:28 PM
Trace I Could Have Been a Red Thompson grounds out to end the inning.

Ironman92
05-23-2016, 10:29 PM
I was unaware until yesterday that Trayce Thompson is the son of former Laker Mychal Thompson.

Brother of Klay...the all-star shooting guard for golden state

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:30 PM
Reds are swinging early in the count as Bruce grounds out on the first pitch

Ironman92
05-23-2016, 10:30 PM
Phillips has more misplays this season already than I can remember him having in a whole season.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:30 PM
Kershaw is exactly who you should bunt against. He's not walking you, and there's a more than good chance he will strike you out. Hamilton was going to make an out against Kershaw, might was well make it productive.Well it didn't work, did it? Seems that way an awful lot with Reds teams from the last 6 years.

I guess I just don't like the idea of giving away an out to Cy Young, when there are other ways to move runners over without forfeiting an out.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:30 PM
I feel like the "go after Kershaw's first pitch" strategy is only going to help make the inevitable complete game easier.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:31 PM
Duvall strikes out swinging

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:32 PM
Duvall K's on the curve. He didn't have a prayer.

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Easy 1-2-3 inning for Cy Kershaw

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:32 PM
That was a quick 8 pitch inning as Pacheco the automatic out flies out.

androosh
05-23-2016, 10:32 PM
I have no idea who half of these "@" people are!I updated the Reds lineup to have real names. That's the most important one, anyway.

757690
05-23-2016, 10:33 PM
Scully said Duvall has diabetes. Did anyone else know this? First I heard. Makes his performance even more impressive.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:33 PM
Scully said Duvall has diabetes. Did anyone else know this? First I heard. Makes his performance even more impressive.
I just found out the other day looking Duvall up on Wikipedia.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:34 PM
Nice play by Votto

CWRed
05-23-2016, 10:36 PM
Kershaw is exactly who you should bunt against. He's not walking you, and there's a more than good chance he will strike you out. Hamilton was going to make an out against Kershaw, might was well make it productive.

No. A single likely scores Cozart. A ground out to the right side or fly ball to right moves him. Against Kershaw and really anyone, outs are precious. As if one run is a game winner. It lets him off the hook. And there are stats out there to prove this, but I digress.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:37 PM
Puig strikes out swinging

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 10:37 PM
I updated the Reds lineup to have real names. That's the most important one, anyway.

That's cool. I was being somewhat facetious, anyway. I had figured out all of them except for Pacheco. (And some of the Dodgers, but I probably wouldn't know them anyway! :D)

I appreciate that you post the lineups. I always look forward to seeing them before the game. (I also really like that you post the game time.)

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:38 PM
1-2-3 inning for Finnegan

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:38 PM
An easy 9 pitch inning for Finnegan

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:41 PM
Tucker singles leading off the 3rd.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:43 PM
Not the best bunt from Finnegan, fielder's choice.

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 10:44 PM
Well, good throw on that one by Ellis.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:44 PM
Bunt attempt was too close in front of the plate and Ellis turns it into a FC to cut down the lead runner

texasdave
05-23-2016, 10:45 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/2016-17-international-slot-values-and-bonus-pools/#T7HSfFXuc1MEcAT6.97

The Orioles have a total pool of 2,539,600. This is made up of their 4 slot values, plus the 700,000 that is added to each team's pool. The 4 individual slot values the Orioles will receive are: 1) 885,300, 2) 451,400, 3) 304,900 and 4) 198,000. So, the minimum international bonus slot value that the Reds will receive is 502,900.

This means the Reds can spend an extra half a million or so dollars before the tax kicks in.

Here is a link to an article that explains it all fairly well: http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/viva-el-birdos-knowledge-nest/2014/7/2/5864451/mlb-a-primer-on-international-amateur-free-agency

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:50 PM
Billy grounds out, still scoreless thru 2.5

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:50 PM
Hamilton grounds out. Runner stranded at 2nd. 0-0 mid 3rd

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:54 PM
Kershaw base hit.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:54 PM
I wouldn't recommend giving up hits to Kershaw with 2 strikes on him.

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 10:54 PM
Not a fan of the flat blue Dodgers helmets. I preferred the ones with the glossy shine.

CWRed
05-23-2016, 10:55 PM
Kershaw base hit.

Is it just me but why the hell was Billy playing so deep? Seems to be a trend of easy outs dropping in front of our boys.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:55 PM
Hernandez flies out to Billy, 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:56 PM
Turner is probably the most dangerous guy in this lineup against a lefty. I'd tread lightly.

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 10:58 PM
6-4-yessiree-3!

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:58 PM
6-4-3 DP to end the inning. 0-0 after 3.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 10:58 PM
Turner GIDP, Finnegan strands Kershaw.

Scoreless thru 3

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 10:58 PM
Yesiree! Very nicely done.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 10:59 PM
Through 3, 37 pitches for Kershaw and 42 pitches for Finnegan

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:02 PM
Leadoff walk to Votto. First time Kershaw has allowed a leadoff walk all year

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:02 PM
Joey walks.

BluegrassRedleg
05-23-2016, 11:03 PM
Stop the presses.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:03 PM
BP GIDP

2 outs. UUGGGGGHHH

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:03 PM
Votto is quickly erased on a 6-3 DP

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:04 PM
Hell of a game for DatDude so far. Ugh.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:05 PM
Bruce grounds out. No score thru 3.5

40YrRedsFan
05-23-2016, 11:07 PM
Tough crowd here tonight.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:08 PM
Should be noted that our new guy who shows up after every Votto at-bat doesn't seem to be junkhead. junkhead, for all his faults, was not obsessed with batting average nor would he resort to vulgarities once he was found out.

This new guy is even more pathetic though.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:08 PM
Should be noted that our new guy who shows up after every Votto at-bat doesn't seem to be junkhead. junkhead, for all his faults, was not obsessed with batting average nor would he resort to vulgarities once he was found out.

This new guy is even more pathetic though.

I swear he had a different username last week.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:10 PM
Kendrick lines a single right up the middle

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:11 PM
What posts are you guys referring to? I see no such posts. :D

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:14 PM
Thompson hit that hard but lines out to Hamilton

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:14 PM
I must really love the Reds to stay up for a game that's going to make me tired at work tomorrow. Something magical needs to happen instead of the usual bullpen Gong show.

757690
05-23-2016, 11:15 PM
Joey walks.

I'm counting that as winning tonight's game. Best we can hope for.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:15 PM
Wild pitch moves Kendrick to 3rd

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:15 PM
Wild pitch moves Kendrick to 3rd
That's a wild pitch? Looked like a passed ball.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:16 PM
Still scoreless thru 4

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:17 PM
That's a wild pitch? Looked like a passed ball.

Yes they scored it a wild pitch.

Ground out to short. 0-0 after 4.

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Through 4, Kershaw 48 pitches, Finnegan 61 pitches

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:17 PM
That's a wild pitch? Looked like a passed ball.

Yeah, I would have scored that as a passed ball.

Chuckie
05-23-2016, 11:20 PM
You guys, I'm thinking it's good that Finnegan is basically matching Kershaw thus far.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:21 PM
Duvall strikes out. Pacheco flies out to center

Chuckie
05-23-2016, 11:22 PM
Almost forgot the Fight Doctor was even on the roster. We have some kinda club this year.

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:22 PM
The cheap tickets are pretty amusing in the sense that my dad joked last week about that very thing.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:23 PM
That is 3 Ks for Kershaw. 0-0 mid 5th

40YrRedsFan
05-23-2016, 11:23 PM
You guys, I'm thinking it's good that Finnegan is basically matching Kershaw thus far.

He's in the game because he has walked only 1.

RedlegJake
05-23-2016, 11:25 PM
I have faith in Finny thru about 5. Then it gets dicey - bullpen or him getting shaky. Neither one comforts me

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:25 PM
Puig fouls out to 1st

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:27 PM
4 pitch walk to Ellis

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:27 PM
DodgersZone probably has trolls signing up to bash Puig and his .241/.284/.380 line.

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4 pitch walk to Ellis
I wouldn't recommend doing this.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:28 PM
Dodgers are gonna challenge that.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:28 PM
Nice play by Cozart to start a very close 6-4 FC.

kaldaniels
05-23-2016, 11:28 PM
I have faith in Finny thru about 5. Then it gets dicey - bullpen or him getting shaky. Neither one comforts me

Finny tantalizes me. He's right on the edge of being able to put it together as a starter. But I don't know if he can do it.

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:29 PM
Surprised the Dodgers aren't challenging.

kaldaniels
05-23-2016, 11:29 PM
Day-um Cozart.

Chuckie
05-23-2016, 11:29 PM
Cozy can pick it now.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:29 PM
Shouldn't that have been Pacheco's ball?

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:30 PM
lol wut just happened

Chuckie
05-23-2016, 11:30 PM
Bad News Reds rise up. Pacheco should be nowhere near an MLB field.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:30 PM
Kershaw to 3rd. He goes to 2nd on a wild pitch. A good throw may have had him but Barnhart throws it wildly into center.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:30 PM
god that whole play was embarassing

kaldaniels
05-23-2016, 11:30 PM
Am I a bad guy for hoping Kershaw got hurt as he was bustling to third?

It was a heat of the moment thing.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:30 PM
Finnegan escapes the inning. Scoreless thru 5

Chuckie
05-23-2016, 11:30 PM
No problem. Because Finnegan is a stud.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:31 PM
Hernandez flies out to right. 0-0 after 5.

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Through 5, Kershaw 59 pitches, Finnegan 71 pitches

WrongVerb
05-23-2016, 11:31 PM
Bad News Reds

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:32 PM
A bit disappointed with Barnhart's defense tonight, Finnegan isn't exactly uncorking pitches, just regular balls in the dirt that Barnhart isn't playing well.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:33 PM
Am I a bad guy for hoping Kershaw got hurt as he was bustling to third?

It was a heat of the moment thing.It happens :p

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:34 PM
4 Ks for Kershaw

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:34 PM
Kershaw getting a generous zone. Finnegan K's. 1 out.

WrongVerb
05-23-2016, 11:35 PM
A bit disappointed with Barnhart's defense tonight, Finnegan isn't exactly uncorking pitches, just regular balls in the dirt that Barnhart isn't playing well.

I'd suspect sick or hung over. Definitely not his usual self.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:35 PM
Cozart grounds out to short

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:37 PM
Hamilton grounds out. 0-0 mid 6th

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:37 PM
Kershaw is finding his groove. Not looking good for the good guys.

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:37 PM
Kershaw heating up and we're ice cold.

RedlegJake
05-23-2016, 11:37 PM
Only 4 Ks? Kershaw's a bum

kaldaniels
05-23-2016, 11:39 PM
Big inning for Finnegan.

This is where you grow up.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:40 PM
Full count walk to Turner to lead off the inning.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:41 PM
Leadoff walk to Turner

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:41 PM
Wut the heck Barnhart?!?!?

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:41 PM
Damnit Brandon 3 walks to 1 strikeout is Alfredo Simon stuff.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:41 PM
Barnhart is having a rough night. Tried a pickoff throw and it goes into right field.

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:42 PM
Barnhart is just having a really rough night.

kaldaniels
05-23-2016, 11:42 PM
Vin going off on how bad teams self-destruct.

He's right you know.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:42 PM
This isn't gonna end well.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:42 PM
Gonzalez check swing single to left and the game is hanging by a thread here. 1st and 3rd with no outs.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:43 PM
lol baseball is a stupid game and nothing matters

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:43 PM
We're really making a push to have the most errors in the NL after tonight.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:43 PM
Tucker makes a mound trip.

"Sorry about my crappy D tonight, Finny. But seriously bro get it together!"

Chuckie
05-23-2016, 11:44 PM
Gonna go out on a limb and say things are about ready to fall apart for our Reds.

#boldprediction

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:44 PM
Don't worry guys, Cotham is warming up. He'll get us out of it if Finny caves in here.

WrongVerb
05-23-2016, 11:44 PM
Do the Reds normally call pitches from the bench? Barnhart looked into the dugout for the pitch. Gotta be sick or something.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:45 PM
1-0 Dodgers

Reds give up a run for the double play. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:45 PM
6-4-3 DP. 1-0 Dodgers

Chuckie
05-23-2016, 11:45 PM
1-0 Dodgers on the double play. Not bad.

BluegrassRedleg
05-23-2016, 11:45 PM
Ballgame.

Thanks, Barnhart and Votto.

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 11:45 PM
6-4-yessiree-3!

Chuckie
05-23-2016, 11:45 PM
Do the Reds normally call pitches from the bench? Barnhart looked into the dugout for the pitch. Gotta be sick or something.

It's obviously because Bryan Price is a baseball genius.

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:46 PM
LOL

2016 Reds

Thompson singles off Pacheco's glove.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:46 PM
Now Thompson reaches on a ball off the glove of Pacheco.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:46 PM
Pacheco can't play defense but on the bright side, he also can't hit.

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:47 PM
I shudder to think what this defense will look like when we trade Cozart.

WrongVerb
05-23-2016, 11:47 PM
Thompson has a hit against the Reds.

Schebler currently in AAA.

Dodgers winning on that front.

Yes, I'm bitter about the Frazier trade.

BluegrassRedleg
05-23-2016, 11:47 PM
Pacheco can't play defense but on the bright side, he also can't hit.

I thought he was a decent pickup when they got him, but he hasn't brought a thing to the table.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:48 PM
Pacheco can't play defense but on the bright side, he also can't hit.

It is a true mystery how Pacheco is on any major league roster.

Thompson steals 2nd. At least it was finally a good throw by Barnhart

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:48 PM
Finally a decent throw from Tucker bot not in time. SB for Thompson.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:48 PM
Seager strikes out. 1-0 Dodgers after 6

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:49 PM
Finny works out of it with only 1 run allowed.

I thought it'd be way worse. Still probably ballgame though.

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:49 PM
That was a nice pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:49 PM
Through 6, 69 pitches for Kershaw, 88 pitches for Finnegan

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:52 PM
Pacheco can't play defense but on the bright side, he also can't hit.https://media.giphy.com/media/Mmzh0luGq7vGM/giphy.gif

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Joey K's on a half-swing right down the middle. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:53 PM
5 Ks for Kershaw. I am sure a new user account is being prepared as we speak

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:53 PM
Joseph, the check swings gotta stop.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:54 PM
Phillips hit it hard but grounds out to 3rd

The Operator
05-23-2016, 11:54 PM
Kershaw sets down 11 in a row. Still not 80 pitches thru 7.

1-0 Dodgers

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:55 PM
Kershaw is rolling right along. 1-0 Dodgers mid 7th

CWRed
05-23-2016, 11:55 PM
The fundamental unsoundedness (yeah I made that up) of this team continues to spiral out of control. Bryan Price is on it. I'm confident it will turn around.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:57 PM
Leadoff single by Puig

40YrRedsFan
05-23-2016, 11:57 PM
Marty also saying what a lousy job of putting the bullpen together by the front office.

KYExtemper
05-23-2016, 11:58 PM
I'm surprised Finnegan s still out there based on the last inning.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2016, 11:59 PM
4-6-3 DP

Tom Servo
05-23-2016, 11:59 PM
Yesiree

BluegrassRedleg
05-23-2016, 11:59 PM
Reds games in Chavez Ravine the last 20 years: Groundhog Day, the movie

Stay up all night, watch the inept Reds offense shut down by brilliant LA pitching; Dodgers eke out a run or two in spite of themselves, win the game.

Big Klu
05-23-2016, 11:59 PM
4-6-yessiree-3!

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:00 AM
Thanks for deleting the latest post, MT... I went ahead and took the trash out. :)

Tom Servo
05-24-2016, 12:01 AM
Thanks for deleting the latest post, MT... I went ahead and took the trash out. :)
Imagine going through the effort of signing up on a forum after every at-bat of a baseball player? Good lord. I legit worry about that guy's mental health.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:01 AM
Kershaw grounds out. Great start by Finnegan

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:01 AM
Thanks for deleting the latest post, MT... I went ahead and took the trash out. :)

What did I miss?

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:01 AM
Finny thru 7 with only 1 ER.

Bryan gonna try and push him thru 8?

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:02 AM
Nice line for Finnegan. Didn't seem to have his best control/command tonight.

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:02 AM
What did I miss?Same hit-and-run anti-Votto dude.

Tom Servo
05-24-2016, 12:03 AM
Nice line for Finnegan. Didn't seem to have his best control/command tonight.
To be fair, one of the walks came after BP booted an easy two-out grounder. The command was pretty solid, he was basically pitching to contact and generating a good amount of weak contact as opposed to swings and misses.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:04 AM
Finny has never gone that deep.

7 IP.

That's a big step.

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To be fair, one of the walks came after BP booted an easy two-out grounder. The command was pretty solid, he was basically pitching to contact and generating a good amount of weak contact as opposed to swings and misses.

I don't even know how many walks he gave up. I saw a lot of missed locations. Overall a good start.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:05 AM
Duvall strikes out for the 3rd time tonight

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:06 AM
Imagine going through the effort of signing up on a forum after every at-bat of a baseball player? Good lord. I legit worry about that guy's mental health.I couldn't imagine spending my free time like that.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:07 AM
7 Ks for Kershaw

BluegrassRedleg
05-24-2016, 12:07 AM
Swing. The. Bat.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:07 AM
7 Ks for Kershaw

Under 10 is a moral victory.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:07 AM
Ground out to 1st. 14 in a row retired. 1-0 Dodgers mid 8th

KYExtemper
05-24-2016, 12:07 AM
Kershaw is just making this look too freakin' easy.

Tom Servo
05-24-2016, 12:08 AM
Arrieta has nothing on Kershaw

Don't @ Me

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:08 AM
Now I consider letting Finny go back out. It is a loss.

See if he can bring it home in 8 IP.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:10 AM
Now I consider letting Finny go back out. It is a loss.

See if he can bring it home in 8 IP.

Here he goes. Didn't realize he was at 98 pitches.

Pitch to contact and let's go home.

malcontent
05-24-2016, 12:10 AM
Scully has twice called Kershaw's 74-mph curve...the one that breaks 16 inches...a "straight change-up".

Agree with Big Klu...the Dodgers messed up their helmets with that flat finish.

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:10 AM
Finnegan still on the hill!

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:11 AM
Finnegan still in.

First pitch fly out to center

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It is really a shame to waste a start this good

Tom Servo
05-24-2016, 12:11 AM
Scully has twice called Kershaw's 74-mph curve...that breaks 16 inches...a "straight change-up".
He was calling Finnegan's 93 heater a breaking pitch and an 86 mph pitch in the dirt a breaking ball.

I don't care though, I'd listen to him read the phonebook.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:11 AM
4 pitch walk to Turner

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:12 AM
Walk to Turner.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:12 AM
That's what I'm talking about regarding control/command.

He missed on the last 3 pitches. Close but not where he wanted.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:14 AM
4th DP turned by the Reds. Great start by Finnegan

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:14 AM
6-4-3!

Finnegan through 8 on only 1 ER. Ooohh yea.

KYExtemper
05-24-2016, 12:14 AM
Double play #4!

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:14 AM
Last 3 to Adrian were right where Finnegan wanted.

Nice job.

Ron Madden
05-24-2016, 12:14 AM
Nice Game Mr. Finnegan!!!

Tom Servo
05-24-2016, 12:14 AM
Great effort tonight Finny

40YrRedsFan
05-24-2016, 12:15 AM
Finnegan 8 ip, 5 hits, 1 run..........and can't win. Too bad.

757690
05-24-2016, 12:15 AM
Not sure what to root for. If the Reds score, they tie the game. If they don't, Finnegan gets credit for a compete game.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:15 AM
Double play #4!

Happy about it. But unsustainable.

Sorry to be a downer folks.

Finny could be successful. But it won't be in this manner.

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:16 AM
You know it's a rough season when over 50% of the "Volkswagon Drive Of The Game" clips are past homers from years if not decades ago.

powersackers
05-24-2016, 12:16 AM
Dual CGs. One shutout. Good baseball.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:17 AM
Suarez pinch hitting

BluegrassRedleg
05-24-2016, 12:17 AM
Arrieta has nothing on Kershaw

Don't @ Me

Maybe not, but Arrieta playing half his games at this ridiculous ballpark would be scary, too.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:18 AM
Suarez grounds out to short

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:18 AM
Seager nails Suarez on what could have been a hit on a lesser SS.

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:19 AM
Remember that stretch from mid-'99 thru early '01 when The Reds never got shut out? That was fun.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:20 AM
Cozart grounds out to short

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:20 AM
Cozart keeps Seager busy. 2 outs.

BluegrassRedleg
05-24-2016, 12:20 AM
Home plate ump tonight is outstanding.

KYExtemper
05-24-2016, 12:20 AM
Only down 1 run, but it feels like 10.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:20 AM
No shame in this guys.

Wish Cozy had made it home in the first.

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:21 AM
Reds lose. Again.

Ugh

Big Klu
05-24-2016, 12:21 AM
On pace for 54-108.

Reds Fanatic
05-24-2016, 12:22 AM
That is it. Reds lose 1-0. 8 in a row.

Tom Servo
05-24-2016, 12:22 AM
Well...it was a reasonably entertaining game. All the caps tipped to Kershaw.

Tom Servo
05-24-2016, 12:26 AM
One thing I'd point out, in the bask of an 8 inning start, that Finnegan only recently turned 23. For reference, Tyler Bedee (http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.cgi?id=beede-000tyl) was drafted a few picks ahead of him in 2014, and Erick Fedde was picked right behind him, and they are also both 23. Both of those guys had more innings under their belt in college than Finnegan, and they are in AA and A+, respectively.

Finny ain't perfect, he's not a phenom, but he's still ahead of the curve.

texasdave
05-24-2016, 12:27 AM
If the nerds won the war on bunting, then Bryan Price is that lone, holdout Japanese soldier on some small island in the Pacific that is still fighting the war 20 years later. The Reds got 2 hits, and Price tried to sac bunt after both of them.

KYExtemper
05-24-2016, 12:34 AM
If the nerds won the war on bunting, then Bryan Price is that lone, holdout Japanese soldier on some small island in the Pacific that is still fighting the war 20 years later. The Reds got 2 hits, and Price tried to sac bunt after both of them.

In fairness, one of those attempts was with the pitcher, but Finnegan can hit, so yeah, valid point.

757690
05-24-2016, 12:37 AM
If the nerds won the war on bunting, then Bryan Price is that lone, holdout Japanese soldier on some small island in the Pacific that is still fighting the war 20 years later. The Reds got 2 hits, and Price tried to sac bunt after both of them.

I stated before. Bunting against Kershaw is smart for weak hitters like the pitcher and Hamilton. They are almost automatic outs against Kershaw, and likely strike out victims, so might as well make their outs productive.

Bunting isn't always a bad idea.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:42 AM
If the nerds won the war on bunting, then Bryan Price is that lone, holdout Japanese soldier on some small island in the Pacific that is still fighting the war 20 years later. The Reds got 2 hits, and Price tried to sac bunt after both of them.

No snark. Serious question to you and those who like this post.

What do the nerds say about bunting when the batters are OPSing .649 and .648 and the pitcher is the most dominant pitcher in years.

No offense, but while I don't like bunting, I can't give Price a hard time on this one.

Take away the AB's you reference and the Reds were 0 for 25.

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:46 AM
The reason I don't like bunting is because it rarely ends up working (for The Reds), even if you move the runner over as Hamilton did.

The Reds suck at bunting and have for years. Maybe I could get on board if The Reds had a reputation as being fundamentally sound but honestly, all the way back to early in the Dusty Baker era, they've sucked out loud at bunting. But they keep doing it.

Tom Servo
05-24-2016, 12:46 AM
No snark. Serious question to you and those who like this post.

What do the nerds say about bunting when the batters are OPSing .649 and .648 and the pitcher is the most dominant pitcher in years.

No offense, but while I don't like bunting, I can't give Price a hard time on this one.

Take away the AB's you reference and the Reds were 0 for 25.
I just liked the analogy lol.

Honestly I don't think bunting or not bunting mattered tonight with Kershaw on the mound, though I would have just had Billy swinging away in the first with a runner on 2nd. Just take your shots.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:49 AM
The reason I don't like bunting is because it rarely ends up working (for The Reds), even if you move the runner over as Hamilton did.

The Reds suck at bunting and have for years. Maybe I could get on board if The Reds had a reputation as being fundamentally sound but honestly, all the way back to early in the Dusty Baker era, they've sucked out loud at bunting. But they keep doing it.

I hear you. But to complain about it tonight?

What were we expecting Hamilton or Finnegan (the history of Reds bunting doesn't matter here) to do if they swung the bat? I'm just saying tonight, the odds just may have tipped in favor of trying to bunt the guy over. In the end...it really didn't matter.

kaldaniels
05-24-2016, 12:51 AM
The best plan of action for a poor hitting team vs. Kershaw may just be to have the manager flip a coin before every pitch.

Heads: Try to put it over the fence.
Tails: Take.

Kinda serious.

The Operator
05-24-2016, 12:53 AM
I hear you. But to complain about it tonight?

What were we expecting Hamilton or Finnegan (the history of Reds bunting doesn't matter here) to do if they swung the bat? I'm just saying tonight, the odds just may have tipped in favor of trying to bunt the guy over. In the end...it really didn't matter.It isn't even so much about tonight, for me.

It's a frustration that has built up for years, all the way back to Dusty. Reds teams are consistently bad at it and yet continue to drop bunts down like they were some small ball powerhouse. It's just annoying.


In the end, like you say, it didn't matter.

WVRedsFan
05-24-2016, 01:08 AM
Glad I missed this one. I actually stooped to watch WWE Raw with my son. I feel so dirty

BluegrassRedleg
05-24-2016, 01:10 AM
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Clayton Kershaw had 3 shutouts this month, the rest of MLB has 3

cumberlandreds
05-24-2016, 07:46 AM
On pace for 54-108.

Exact opposite of the 1975 Reds. Never thought I would see the Reds come full circle like this.

cumberlandreds
05-24-2016, 07:47 AM
On the bright side Kershaw only struck out 7. Breaking his streak of 10+ strikeout games.

Finnegan had a complete game. I really didn't think a Reds starter would have a complet game this season. Congrats to Finny.

lollipopcurve
05-24-2016, 08:45 AM
Helluva game from Finnegan. Best start from a Reds hurler this year.

BuckeyeRed27
05-24-2016, 11:28 AM
I went to the game last night, first time I've been able to see the Reds in person in a few years. I barely had time to finish my beer, but I guess that happens with Kershaw is pitching.