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Reds Fanatic
07-16-2016, 03:13 PM
Reds

1. Zack Cozart (R) SS
2. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Jay Bruce (L) RF
5. Adam Duvall (R) LF
6. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
7. Jose Peraza (R) 2B
8. Ramon Cabrera (S) C
9. John Lamb (L) P

androosh
07-16-2016, 05:15 PM
Yesterday - "We aren't going to start Peraza over BP, etc".

Today - Peraza starting at second base.

Raisor
07-16-2016, 06:10 PM
Yesterday - "We aren't going to start Peraza over BP, etc".

Today - Peraza starting at second base.

BP has a muscle pull. It's why he came out of the game yesterday

cumberlandreds
07-16-2016, 06:54 PM
BP has a muscle pull. It's why he came out of the game yesterday

Wimp. :)

androosh
07-16-2016, 06:58 PM
BP has a muscle pull. It's why he came out of the game yesterdayAh, didn't get to watch the game, so didn't know that. But...if he can play through a fractured hand, surely he can play through a pulled muscle.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:18 PM
Villar single to LF
Perez HR to LF, 2-0 MIL
Braun bloop single to RF, should have been caught by Peraza

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 07:20 PM
John Lamb is all kinds of awful.

Wolves198921
07-16-2016, 07:21 PM
wow the Reds suck

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 07:22 PM
4-0 Brew Crew after the top of the first.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 07:22 PM
John Lamb is all kinds of awful.

And the Reds brass says the team will be competitive in 2017:lol:

Kc61
07-16-2016, 07:23 PM
John Lamb is all kinds of awful.

C'mon. He's on the RedsZone top ten list!

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:24 PM
Lucroy K's
Carter double to RF, Braun scores. 3-0

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 07:25 PM
Lamb takes the concept of 'inconsistency' to a whole other level.

I know this much, the Reds have given him a number of chances to stick in the rotation.

Raisor
07-16-2016, 07:25 PM
And the Reds brass says the team will be competitive in 2017:lol:

I guess it depends on what you mean by "competitive". I haven't seen anything that says the team thinks they'll contend next season.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:26 PM
Scooter flyout to LF, 7
Middlebrooks two-out single. Carter scores. 4-0. Middlebrooks out at 2nd, 9-3-6.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:27 PM
I guess it depends on what you mean by "competitive". I haven't seen anything that says the team thinks they'll contend next season.

Strange, you keep calling 2023, "next season".

Do you have a flux capacitor?

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:31 PM
Two out single by Joey.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:34 PM
Middlebrooks with a case of alligator arms on that foul popup by Bruce. New life! Make him pay, Jay!

Bruce walks! Two on for Duvall.

Duvall hard ground ball to SS, 6-4 FC.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 07:34 PM
C'mon. He's on the RedsZone top ten list!

That's not saying much for what's on the horizon.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 07:36 PM
wtf was Lamb doing?

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 07:37 PM
Nice hustle, John. Jeez.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 07:39 PM
There should be a new stat for mental errors. BF-Lamb 1

mth123
07-16-2016, 07:41 PM
John Lamb is all kinds of awful.

I concur. More and more. A few minutes ago I posted that I thought he was an obvious choice for the bullpen. I really wonder if he's even a major leaguer. I hate the 60 MPH stuff. He tries to be too cute and it doesn't fool anyone. He goes to that way too often.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 07:42 PM
Votto daydreaming of OBP again?

Knightro28
07-16-2016, 07:43 PM
Is there something wrong with Cabrera? He's dropped several pitches tonight.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:44 PM
Flores groundout 3U. Votto barely beat him as Lamb forgot to cover 1st
Nelson K swinging
Villar bunt single
Perez K swinging

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 07:46 PM
Lamb at 40 pitches already.

CWRed
07-16-2016, 07:46 PM
If there was a stat for errors that should be errors, for example, bonehead, lazy plays, mental errors....this team would average 5-6 a a game. Hell, sometimes they have 2 or 3 in one inning.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 07:48 PM
Suarez only has 5 doubles? Holy crap

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:48 PM
Votto daydreaming of OBP again?

I'm sure Franchester would think so if he were here tonight.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 07:50 PM
Brantley - "The Reds are trying to get him [Peraza] at bats"

No they're not.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:50 PM
Suarez only has 5 doubles? Holy crap

Didn't Geno have a lot of doubles last year?

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 07:50 PM
I'm starting to question whether Suarez is an everyday player.....or even a bench player at this point.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 07:51 PM
Jose Havoc

Raisor
07-16-2016, 07:52 PM
I'm starting to question whether Suarez is an everyday player.....or even a bench player at this point.

Sophomore slump.

Todd Frazier, for example, didn't make his major league debut until he was 25.

Suarez turns 25 in a couple of days.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:53 PM
Peraza with a bloop single to RF, then steals 2nd.

He's got some wheels! Almost as fast as Billy.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:54 PM
Sophomore slump

Most sophomores who slump this badly have to repeat the 10th grade.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 07:55 PM
Peraza with a bloop single to RF, then steals 2nd.

He's got some wheels! Almost as fast as Billy.
Nice part is that, despite the slander he's getting on the ORG, he is a much better hitter than Hamilton. So he can actually utilize his speed pretty consistently.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:56 PM
Lamb sure killed the hell out of that one!

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 07:57 PM
Lamb hit that one about 2 inches.

Kc61
07-16-2016, 07:57 PM
I concur. More and more. A few minutes ago I posted that I thought he was an obvious choice for the bullpen. I really wonder if he's even a major leaguer. I hate the 60 MPH stuff. He tries to be too cute and it doesn't fool anyone. He goes to that way too often.

I've been saying Lamb to the bullpen since last season. When he has to get 21 outs (assuming 7 innings) he generally gets burned somewhere along the way.

He's an example of someone who would need work to become a reliever but I think it would be a worthwhile project.

The Reds will soon have to begin to exercise judgment as to which of these starters are worth the effort in that role. Thankfully they will run out of starting spots, which will force them to trade some guys or move some to the pen.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 07:57 PM
I'm starting to question whether Suarez is an everyday player.....or even a bench player at this point.

He likely isn't a starter for this team when they're competitive next.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 07:59 PM
He likely isn't a starter for this team when they're competitive next.

And just who will be?

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:03 PM
And just who will be?

At third, probably Senzel. Suarez is very bad.

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Speaking of players not in starting roles when the Reds are competitive next - John Lamb!

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:03 PM
LOL

mth123
07-16-2016, 08:04 PM
And just who will be?

Check the paper for today's birth notices. Maybe one of those kids.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 08:04 PM
Just amazing

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:04 PM
Should be strike 3, as Lucroy didn't touch that ball.

And right on cue, Lucroy deposits the next pitch in the LF seats for a 2- run homer.

Price needs to get tossed on that one just on the principle of it.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:05 PM
I'm assuming that play is unreviewable?

mth123
07-16-2016, 08:05 PM
I've been saying Lamb to the bullpen since last season. When he has to get 21 outs (assuming 7 innings) he generally gets burned somewhere along the way.

He's an example of someone who would need work to become a reliever but I think it would be a worthwhile project.

The Reds will soon have to begin to exercise judgment as to which of these starters are worth the effort in that role. Thankfully they will run out of starting spots, which will force them to trade some guys or move some to the pen.

I've come around on the one time through the order thing, but his first hitter woes may mean he can't relieve either.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:06 PM
At third, probably Senzel. Suarez is very bad.

Don't see it. Senzel will be gone before this team sniffs relevance.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:07 PM
I'm assuming that play is unreviewable?

Yes.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 08:07 PM
Get Lamb on the Louisville express....sooner than later

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:08 PM
Announcers talking Homer and RobSteve, but Adleman made a four inning rehab start tonight for Louisville, btw.

KittyDuran
07-16-2016, 08:09 PM
Blame this on my Mom. During the BRM days the Reds would lose bad when she attended. Now she has a crush on Lamb and his flowing locks. [emoji78]


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Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:10 PM
Not the outing we were looking for, but probably the outing we deserve. :(

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:10 PM
I like John Lamb, but just a pathetic outing in a season with way too many of them for him. I don't think he should get the ball in five days.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:11 PM
Price tossed! Chances of winning improved!

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:11 PM
Blame this on my Mom. During the BRM days the Reds would lose bad when she attended. Now she has a crush on Lamb and his flowing locks. [emoji78]


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Remind Mom that the players on the BRM were required to shave and have nice haircuts.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:12 PM
Should have done that earlier, Bryan.

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:12 PM
Home plate umps suck. But so does John Lamb.

Kc61
07-16-2016, 08:12 PM
I've come around on the one time through the order thing, but his first hitter woes may mean he can't relieve either.

Last year Lamb allowed 1.45 homers per nine. This year it's worse, 1.59 coming into tonight.

Unless he fixes that problem, there is no role for him.

I'd pull him out of the rotation (I would have awhile ago) and have him work with, say, Ted Power on relief pitching. Streamline the pitch arsenal, focus on two best pitches, shorter stints.

See what happens.

I do not see the point with some of these guys. I'd rather see Simon give up 12 runs per game than have a prospect used in the wrong role over and over. Try something new with Lamb.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:14 PM
Price tossed! Chances of winning improved!

He needed to do that just to defend his team.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:14 PM
Sampson gets the first batter. We all know the grand slam is inevitable though.

mth123
07-16-2016, 08:14 PM
Last year Lamb allowed 1.45 homers per nine. This year it's worse, 1.59 coming into tonight.

Unless he fixes that problem, there is no role for him.

I'd pull him out of the rotation (I would have awhile ago) and have him work with, say, Ted Power on relief pitching. Streamline the pitch arsenal, focus on two best pitches, shorter stints.

See what happens.

Agreed. Step one, junk that 60 MPH crap.

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:14 PM
Is there something wrong with Cabrera? He's dropped several pitches tonight.

Yes, he shouldn't be playing in MLB.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:15 PM
Should have done that earlier, Bryan.

What, make a pitching change or get tossed?

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:15 PM
Clown show, bro.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:15 PM
Jimmy Nelson just played Votto and Suarez for morons

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:15 PM
"just not smart baseball"

Reds 2016

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 08:16 PM
Agreed. Step one, junk that 60 MPH crap.

His fastball was only around 87-88 tonight..

mth123
07-16-2016, 08:16 PM
Yes, he shouldn't be playing in MLB.

Chuckie, some times people quibble with you, but a lot of the time you just post what we're all thinking but don't want to be inflammatory.

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:17 PM
Do they have the Run Rule in MLB?

;)

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:17 PM
9-0 Milwaukee. Gonna be a long summer.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:18 PM
I've been worried every time a ball is hit remotely at Votto these last few games.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:18 PM
Cowboy is being highly critical, but I don't see it as being malicious. I see it as someone who has been through the wars, and is speaking from experience.

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:18 PM
Chuckie, some times people quibble with you, but a lot of the time you just post what we're all thinking but don't want to be inflammatory.

Sir, are you calling me inflammatory?

Kidding, I take it as a compliment.

KittyDuran
07-16-2016, 08:19 PM
Remind Mom that the players on the BRM were required to shave and have nice haircuts.

She didn't like facial hair back then but her taste in looks have changed...that and she watches too much reality TV. [emoji79]


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Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:20 PM
Cowboy is being highly critical, but I don't see it as being malicious. I see it as someone who has been through the wars, and is speaking from experience.
Zero problem with anything Cowboy has said tonight, think he's been on the money and clearly knows his pitching.


This game thread on the other hand...

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:20 PM
Chuckie, some times people quibble with you, but a lot of the time you just post what we're all thinking but don't want to be inflammatory.

I think we all know that Cabrera is a AAA catcher. But when your #1 catcher goes down for the season in early April for the second year in a row, it forces your hand.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 08:20 PM
Sir, are you calling me inflammatory?

Kidding, I take it as a compliment.

You have gas? :laugh:

mth123
07-16-2016, 08:20 PM
Sir, are you calling me inflammatory?

Kidding, I take it as a compliment.

Actually I'm saying you are right on. Take it. People don't do that much on here for anybody.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 08:22 PM
Zero problem with anything Cowboy has said tonight, think he's been on the money and clearly knows his pitching.


This game thread on the other hand...

Can you find anything good about tonight's game to post?

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:23 PM
9-0 Milwaukee. Gonna be a long summer.

A long summer? More like a long decade.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:24 PM
A long summer? More like a long decade.

good thing the Reds are just rebooting and not actually rebuilding

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:25 PM
Can you find anything good about tonight's game to post?
Nope. Just think you some of you guys take it a bit too seriously.

Red Raindog
07-16-2016, 08:26 PM
Are the Reds in the Front Office still of the opinion that is is watchable?

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:26 PM
I want to write a letter to the Reds saying that I deserve a Zack Cozart bobblehead for watching this game.

mth123
07-16-2016, 08:27 PM
Nope. Just think you some of you guys take it a bit too seriously.

You have the advantage of being able to wait this rebuild out. Anyone over 30 probably won't live long enough.;)

Kc61
07-16-2016, 08:27 PM
Did I just hear that this game is only in the third inning? It feels like we're late in the second game of a twin bill.

Red Raindog
07-16-2016, 08:29 PM
plenty of time to score a run

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:30 PM
good thing the Reds are just rebooting and not actually rebuilding

What's the difference? This team sucks, and it isn't getting better anytime soon.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:30 PM
what the hell is Otterbein University

Red Raindog
07-16-2016, 08:30 PM
did I just hear "one of the few voices of reason in the clubhouse"?

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:31 PM
Did I just hear that this game is only in the third inning? It feels like we're late in the second game of a twin bill.

We're an hour and 20 minutes into this one.

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:31 PM
Cowboy says of Cozart: "He's one of the very few voices of reason in the Reds' clubhouse."

Make of that what you will (about the rest of the supposed leaders).

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:31 PM
Yeah, they should keep a shortstop who will be entering his age 32 season next year and will probably be 34-35 before the team is good next. Why not, Jeff?

Kc61
07-16-2016, 08:31 PM
Brantley says that he'd like to see Cozart stick around with the Reds.

I agree with him.

Unpopular view, but I agree with the Cowboy.

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:32 PM
did I just hear "one of the few voices of reason in the clubhouse"?

You don't need your ears checked.

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Brantley says that he'd like to see Cozart stick around with the Reds.

I agree with him.

Unpopular view, but I agree with the Cowboy.

Just seems highly unlikely after inking AlfRod for $7M, and with Dick Williams saying on the record (which surprised me) that Peraza would play SS if the Reds trade Cozart. It's not surprising Peraza would play SS in that situation, it was just odd that Dick was so candid about it. I'm used to Walt, who says next to nothing of substance to the media. Dick will say what's on his mind, to a degree.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:32 PM
what the hell is Otterbein University

Division III school in Westerville, OH (suburb of Columbus). It's evidently where Jim Day went to college.

They are in the same conference as the Division III National Champions in football, Mount Union.

Kc61
07-16-2016, 08:32 PM
Yeah, let's keep a shortstop who will be entering his age 32 season next year and will probably be 34-35 before the team is good next. Why not, Jeff?

1. The future shortstop is Rodriguez who won't be ready for awhile. Peraza isn't really a starting shortstop.

2. Zack isn't expensive and his defense will help young pitchers.

3. Jeff says that Zack is a good mentor, I wasn't aware of that.

Those are the reasons.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:33 PM
You don't need your ears checked.

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Just seems highly unlikely after inking AlfRod for $7M, and with Dick Williams saying on the record (which surprised me) that Peraza would play SS if the Reds trade Cozart.

Williams said that? I didn't see that. That's cool, and surprising.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 08:33 PM
Nope. Just think you some of you guys take it a bit too seriously.
I guess I do. Following the Reds for 48 years, I honestly can't remember seeing a team look so beaten while on the field. Even the early 80's teams weren't this bad in that respect. I continue to hope that things turn around, but it isn't looking promising. I would like to see a World Series before my time is up.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:34 PM
Votto 2 for 2

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:34 PM
1. The future shortstop is Rodriguez who won't be ready for awhile. Peraza isn't really a starting shortstop.

2. Zack isn't expensive and his defense will help young pitchers.

3. Jeff says that Zack is a good mentor, I wasn't aware of that.

Those are the reasons.

If the Reds' future SS is Rodriguez, they're in more trouble than I thought. The guy couldn't manage a .300 SLG in Cuba. I think the Reds' future SS for their next competitive team is A) Peraza (unlikely) B) Not in the organization at this time.

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:34 PM
what the hell is Otterbein University

D-III school here in Columbus (actually the suburb of Westerville). Quality education and some good D-III sports teams.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:37 PM
and the rally fizzles

Chuckie
07-16-2016, 08:37 PM
Packers with just 3 field goals to lead 9-0. Let's see if the Bengals can get a TD and a FG for the 10-9 win.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 08:39 PM
Packers with just 3 field goals to lead 9-0. Let's see if the Bengals can get a TD and a FG for the 10-9 win.

Milwaukee Packers?

Red Raindog
07-16-2016, 08:40 PM
FWIW -- Lamb's ERA now 6.43 -- which is better than Sampson's 6.75

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 08:41 PM
Is tonight the night where we see a position player pitch?

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 08:41 PM
Is tonight the night where we see a position player pitch?

Price seems really averse to this idea for some reason. Too proud I guess.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:43 PM
Is tonight the night where we see a position player pitch?

No. They only have three position players on the bench (not including the injured Phillips).

When you have eight pitchers in your bullpen, you don't need to pitch a position player.

Red Raindog
07-16-2016, 08:43 PM
strange comments from the booth tonight -- Counsell's players are in the game --- He demands it

is that in indirect shot?

Roy Tucker
07-16-2016, 08:44 PM
I'm glad I went to last night's game.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:44 PM
Milwaukee Packers?

The Pack used to play one or two home games a season at old County Stadium in Milwaukee.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:45 PM
strange comments from the booth tonight -- Counsell's players are in the game --- He demands it

is that in indirect shot?

I don't think there is anything indirect about it.

40YrRedsFan
07-16-2016, 08:46 PM
strange comments from the booth tonight -- Counsell's players are in the game --- He demands it

is that in indirect shot?
I was wondering that myself. My guess....yes. These games must be hard for the guys in the broadcast booths, also

Kc61
07-16-2016, 08:49 PM
I was wondering that myself. My guess....yes. These games must be hard for the guys in the broadcast booths, also

LOL, the guys in the booth shouldn't be questioning effort unless they nave some strong basis for it.

Sure, there have been some lapses, but can you imagine a veteran trying to get through this season with this club?

This pitching staff?

I think the Reds have given a high degree of effort when you consider that this is a tryout camp more than a baseball team.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:52 PM
LOL, the guys in the booth shouldn't be questioning effort unless they nave some strong basis for it.

Sure, there have been some lapses, but can you imagine a veteran trying to get through this season with this club?

This pitching staff?

I think the Reds have given a high degree of effort when you consider that this is a tryout camp more than a baseball team.

I don't have a problem with Brantley or Welsh saying something if they see something questionable. Both of them have been there, and know what is and should be expected.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 08:57 PM
Good catch in LF by Duvall!

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 09:04 PM
Billy should have argued that he fouled that ball off.

RedTeamGo!
07-16-2016, 09:10 PM
Holy moly Lamb is baaaaaaad.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 09:11 PM
Holy moly Lamb is baaaaaaad.
http://i.imgur.com/gJKXcJL.jpg

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 09:13 PM
http://i.imgur.com/gJKXcJL.jpg

I loved that jacket when Chris wore it that night. Looked like he stole it from Doc Severinsen's closet.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6002/5954705819_15dea6a577_b.jpg

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 09:13 PM
If only Votto was better at driving in runs, then this game might be in reach

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 09:14 PM
Interesting, JD says Tom Browning believes Tyler Mahle could pitch in the bigs currently.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 09:17 PM
Votto 3 for 3. Seems to like him some Jimmy Nelson.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 09:17 PM
Votto 3 for 3. Seems to like him some Jimmy Nelson.

selfish votto settling for singles down 9-0 /s

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 09:19 PM
Enjoying the talk from Day and Brantley about the pitchers in the minors, don't think you'd get that from Thom, for instance.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 09:24 PM
Enjoying the talk from Day and Brantley about the pitchers in the minors, don't think you'd get that from Thom, for instance.

Jim Day knows that he isn't an expert, so he doesn't try to talk about things he doesn't know. He's also a fan, so he asks questions of Brantley (or Welsh, when working with him) that fans want to ask.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 09:27 PM
Sampson with an excellent outing. Four innings of three-hit shutout relief.

Mutaman
07-16-2016, 09:31 PM
Milwaukee Packers?

Pack played 2-4 home games per year in Milwaukee through 1994. At that time Milwaukee ticket holders were offered tickets at Lambeau to one pre-season game and games 2 and 5 of the regular season schedule and of course most accepted. So for two of their home games, many of the fans at Lambeau are from Milwaukee.

Ron Madden
07-16-2016, 09:39 PM
You don't need your ears checked.

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Just seems highly unlikely after inking AlfRod for $7M, and with Dick Williams saying on the record (which surprised me) that Peraza would play SS if the Reds trade Cozart. It's not surprising Peraza would play SS in that situation, it was just odd that Dick was so candid about it. I'm used to Walt, who says next to nothing of substance to the media. Dick will say what's on his mind, to a degree.

That's interesting.. When did Williams say this?
All I've heard is the same ol song and dance routine from Walt..

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 09:49 PM
Votto 4 for 4

Ron Madden
07-16-2016, 09:51 PM
Enjoying the talk from Day and Brantley about the pitchers in the minors, don't think you'd get that from Thom, for instance.

I was listening to the Brennaman and Jones on Baseball show the other day and Jones ask Marty who the Reds 1st round draft pick was..

Marty said "I have no idea, I don't pay any attention to that stuff.
Jones then ask if he follows the NFL or NBA Draft?
Marty said yes I follow the NBA Draft because I love college basketball.

You would think he would know or remember who the Reds drafted #1 just a few weeks ago.

TheRedScare
07-16-2016, 09:51 PM
That's Votto's first 4 hit game in 2 years

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 09:52 PM
Votto 3 for 3. Seems to like him some Jimmy Nelson.

Now 4-for-4.

Batting average is up to .262.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 09:54 PM
Duvall busts it down the line pretty hard. Beats the throw on the attempted DP for an RBI fielder's choice.

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 09:58 PM
Ivan Jr. stays in the game at SS.

JUMBO! now pitching.

Ironman92
07-16-2016, 09:58 PM
Duvall busts it down the line pretty hard. Beats the throw on the attempted DP for an RBI fielder's choice.

He's became my favorite Reds player

WVRedsFan
07-16-2016, 10:07 PM
Sort of glad that the games aren't available in Myrtle Beach on TV. Oh the misery...

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 10:07 PM
Cowards plunk Jose Havoc knowing he was going to hit a rare 8 run HR

Tuff Nut
07-16-2016, 10:09 PM
I was listening to the Brennaman and Jones on Baseball show the other day and Jones ask Marty who the Reds 1st round draft pick was..

Marty said "I have no idea, I don't pay any attention to that stuff.
Jones then ask if he follows the NFL or NBA Draft?
Marty said yes I follow the NBA Draft because I love college basketball.

You would think he would know or remember who the Reds drafted #1 just a few weeks ago.

Who's Marty Brennaman?

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 10:10 PM
Nieuwenhuis must have thought Ramon Cabrera was his dad.

(For those of you who don't know, Ramon's father, Alex Cabrera, twice hit 50+ homers in a season in Japan, including one season with 55.)

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 10:13 PM
And that's the ol' ball game.

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 10:15 PM
Pros:

Votto gets four hits
Bullpen throws 7 scoreless innings
I mentioned Thom Brennaman earlier and it reminded me of his infamous "I gotta tackle my kid IN the shower!" comment.

Cons:

The game sucked.

Ron Madden
07-16-2016, 10:18 PM
Tough game.. It's not the first and won't be the last...
Rebuilding is not a pretty sight, let's hope this all pays off sometime in the near future..

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 10:20 PM
On pace for 59-103.

(No change from last night.)

Ironman92
07-16-2016, 10:27 PM
Somewhere, someone is mad at Votto for getting 4 hits with no one on base and then fanning with bases loaded.

Ron Madden
07-16-2016, 10:31 PM
Tim Addleman had a real nice rehab start tonight..

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 10:36 PM
Somewhere, someone is mad at Votto for getting 4 hits with no one on base and then fanning with bases loaded.

http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Ohio/2015/1/22/012215-fso-mlb-marty-brennaman.vresize.1200.675.high.80.jpg

Tom Servo
07-16-2016, 10:53 PM
Tom ‏@Haudricourt 8m8 minutes ago
#Brewers Jonathan Lucroy always honest. Said he didnít foul tip pitch before HR but bat did strike plate to make noise that fooled ump.


If he was always honest though wouldn't he have walked back to the dugout?

Big Klu
07-16-2016, 10:57 PM
Tom ‏@Haudricourt 8m8 minutes ago
#Brewers Jonathan Lucroy always honest. Said he didn’t foul tip pitch before HR but bat did strike plate to make noise that fooled ump.


If he was always honest though wouldn't he have walked back to the dugout?

Because the umpire didn't call him out.

Ironman92
07-16-2016, 10:57 PM
Tom ‏@Haudricourt 8m8 minutes ago
#Brewers Jonathan Lucroy always honest. Said he didnít foul tip pitch before HR but bat did strike plate to make noise that fooled ump.


If he was always honest though wouldn't he have walked back to the dugout?

Not unless the ump asked him.

Johnny5
07-17-2016, 12:01 AM
I want to write a letter to the Reds saying that I deserve a Zack Cozart bobblehead for watching this game.

I'm in!

Rantly
07-17-2016, 09:49 AM
I was listening to the Brennaman and Jones on Baseball show the other day and Jones ask Marty who the Reds 1st round draft pick was..

Marty said "I have no idea, I don't pay any attention to that stuff.
Jones then ask if he follows the NFL or NBA Draft?
Marty said yes I follow the NBA Draft because I love college basketball.

You would think he would know or remember who the Reds drafted #1 just a few weeks ago.

Heard that too but in all fairness, Tracy asked him if he knew who the Bengals first round pick was.

Rantly
07-17-2016, 09:56 AM
Somewhere, someone is mad at Votto for getting 4 hits with no one on base and then fanning with bases loaded.

but RBI is an overrated stat