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Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 09:43 PM
Reds

cf Hamilton

ss Cozart

1b Votto

rf Bruce

lf Duvall

2b Phillips

3b Suarez

c Cabrera

p Reed

Giants

cf Span

lf Pagan

rf Williamson

c Posey

ss Crawford

1b Belt

2b Green

3b Pena

p Cain

Red Raindog
07-26-2016, 09:52 PM
That is one ugly line up -- and I mean the font and layout --- don't you know I'm jaded and I expect sparkly things to distract me from the last place record?

:p

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 09:57 PM
The bright side of a losing season?

I won't stay up until 1am watching these west coast games, and thus not feel like poop at work in the morning.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:00 PM
I saw that FSO was showing Game 2 of the 1976 World Series tonight. I have the boxed set version of the 1975 World Series on DVD, and this looks like the same format. Does anyone know if the '76 Series is also available as a boxed set? I would be interested in purchasing it if it is now available for sale.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 10:00 PM
That is one ugly line up -- and I mean the font and layout --- don't you know I'm jaded and I expect sparkly things to distract me from the last place record?

:p

Sorry I was doin my best..
It took so long for the Giants to post a lineup I guess I was in a hurry to post it.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:03 PM
I saw that FSO was showing Game 2 of the 1976 World Series tonight. I have the boxed set version of the 1975 World Series on DVD, and this looks like the same format. Does anyone know if the '76 Series is also available as a boxed set? I would be interested in purchasing it if it is now available for sale.

http://https://www.amazon.com/MLB-Vintage-World-Films-Cincinnati/dp/B000NA2TUG (https://www.amazon.com/MLB-Vintage-World-Films-Cincinnati/dp/B000NA2TUG)

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:05 PM
Reds
Hamilton cf
Cozart ss
Votto 1b
Bruce rf
Duvall lf
Phillips 2b
Suarez 3b
Cabrera c
Reed p

Giants
Span cf
Pagan lf
Williamson rf
Posey c
Crawford ss
Belt 1b
Green 2b
Pena 3b
Cain p


That is one ugly line up -- and I mean the font and layout --- don't you know I'm jaded and I expect sparkly things to distract me from the last place record?

:p

There! Is that better? :p

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:07 PM
Sorry I was doin my best..
It took so long for the Giants to post a lineup I guess I was in a hurry to post it.

Hey, I've got your back! :thumbup:

I appreciate the work you do!

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 10:08 PM
Good evening from AT&T Park! Taking in the game tonight. Go Reds!

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:09 PM
http://https://www.amazon.com/MLB-Vintage-World-Films-Cincinnati/dp/B000NA2TUG (https://www.amazon.com/MLB-Vintage-World-Films-Cincinnati/dp/B000NA2TUG)

Thanks, but is that the complete 1976 Series, or just a highlight DVD?

GADawg
07-26-2016, 10:12 PM
this second half start has me re-energized! Of course that could turn in an instant....I can't lie

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:12 PM
Thanks, but is that the complete 1976 Series, or just a highlight DVD?

I think just the official MLB film. Seems as though the actual tv broadcast isn't available as a dvd box set.

However, all 4 games are available in their entirety on YouTube

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:13 PM
I think just the official MLB film. Seems as though the actual tv broadcast isn't available as a dvd box set.

However, all 4 games are available in their entirety on YouTube

Thanks! Maybe they will make it available some time soon.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:15 PM
Memo to Jim Day:

Mack Jenkins is not a very dynamic interview.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:18 PM
Thanks! Maybe they will make it available some time soon.

During the broadcast of game 4 they pan up to a box at Yankee Stadium being shared by Joe D and Cary Grant.

Would love to spend an evening at the park with those guys and listen to their stories.

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 10:19 PM
George Grande crediting Votto's resurgence to aggression

ehl oh ehl

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:20 PM
George perpuating the myth that Votto was just looking to walk earlier this year.

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 10:21 PM
Grande is trying to see how many times he can say "Runs batted in" in one sentence.

GADawg
07-26-2016, 10:22 PM
During the broadcast of game 4 they pan up to a box at Yankee Stadium being shared by Joe D and Cary Grant.

Would love to spend an evening at the park with those guys and listen to their stories.

those two would be more boring than Mack Jenkins! Too soon?

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 10:25 PM
I'd like to see Cody Reed settle down and get his first big league win tonight.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:26 PM
those two would be more boring than Mack Jenkins! Too soon?

You're right. A night with Mack and Ted Power beats a night with Cary Grant and Joe D anytime.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:27 PM
During the broadcast of game 4 they pan up to a box at Yankee Stadium being shared by Joe D and Cary Grant.

Would love to spend an evening at the park with those guys and listen to their stories.

My only memory of Joe DiMaggio was as Mr. Coffee.

Seven-year-old Big Klu was surprised and confused when his mom and dad told him that Mr. Coffee had once been a great baseball player.

https://pouringcoffeeads.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/mister-cofeee.jpg

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 10:27 PM
Span singles on this pitch.

11271

GADawg
07-26-2016, 10:28 PM
especially these days

Red Raindog
07-26-2016, 10:29 PM
My only memory of Joe DiMaggio was as Mr. Coffee.

Seven-year-old Big Klu was surprised and confused when his mom and dad told him that Mr. Coffee had once been a great baseball player.

:lol:

I have his autograph on a 1938 Yankees team ball --- hate the Yanks but love the ball

Red Raindog
07-26-2016, 10:31 PM
ugly start to this game

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:31 PM
My only memory of Joe DiMaggio was as Mr. Coffee.

Seven-year-old Big Klu was surprised and confused when his mom and dad told him that Mr. Coffee had once been a great baseball player.

Lol that was before my time. My earliest memory of baseball endorsement was Pete with Grecian Formula.

The man was a favorite son of golden age mobsters and bedded Marilyn Monroe. I'd think he'd be quite the interesting story teller.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:31 PM
Pagan reaches on catcher's interference, E2. (No AB charged)

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:31 PM
Just reading body language Reed seems a bit intimidated.

Ugh, and now catcher's interference. 13 pitches and still no outs.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 10:32 PM
Round the horn double play!!!

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:33 PM
Yesiree, needed that one.

GADawg
07-26-2016, 10:34 PM
someone tell Grande than it's "Bumgarner" and not "BumgarDner"

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:34 PM
someone tell Grande than it's "Bumgarner" and not "BumgarDner"
Forget it, it's Chinatown.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 10:36 PM
No real damage done other than a higher pitch count for Cody..

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:36 PM
http://youtu.be/S1pVoJcRz7A

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 10:37 PM
Round the horn double play!!!

Suarez really took his time to make a good throw to second there. You can see he's been working on his defense. Not perfect by a long shot but getting better.

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 10:38 PM
Cain inducing lots of pop ups.

Red Raindog
07-26-2016, 10:45 PM
That's a hit? I must be drunk - better pace myself better

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:45 PM
Oh come on, that's called a hit against Reed?

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:47 PM
Strong defense. Cozart screws one up, and now Duvall screws one up. Two on, no out.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:47 PM
E7

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 10:48 PM
Marty said the Reds are playin like a bunch of clowns..

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:48 PM
Surprised that wasn't scored a hit

PuffyPig
07-26-2016, 10:49 PM
Not exactly helping the rookie.

I can see not giving Cozart an error, the ball was stung. But Cozart will tell you he should have caught that.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:50 PM
Great play by Cozart

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 10:50 PM
Nice play Cozart and Suarez

Giants challenge and runner is ruled safe.
Giants 1
Reds o

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:51 PM
Good lord Suarez....

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:51 PM
ugh he might have been safe

Reed not looking so hot. Lot of pitches, very little swing and miss, very little help from the guys behind him.

PuffyPig
07-26-2016, 10:52 PM
Great play by Cozart

Being challenged. Looked safe but it's not impossible to suggest that he might have tagged him. Hopefully not conclusive.

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 10:52 PM
welp

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:52 PM
Another thing that bothers me about replay:

Belt was called out, but just stands there and defies the umpires while the challenge goes on. He should have to leave the field since he was called out. If the call is overturned, then he can return to the field.


Call overturned. Safe.

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 10:52 PM
Well, he looked out from my seat, dammit!

LoganBuck
07-26-2016, 10:52 PM
Does it seem like Cody Reed gets all the whacko stuff occurring when he is on the mound every time?

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 10:53 PM
I can't begin to even evaluate how Reed is doing with this defense so far. WTH?

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 10:53 PM
You honestly have to be kidding me.

- - - Updated - - -


Does it seem like Cody Reed gets all the whacko stuff occurring when he is on the mound every time?

I would call that HR pretty whacko

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:53 PM
Does it seem like Cody Reed gets all the whacko stuff occurring when he is on the mound every time?

Indeed, I said in his last start he has to feel snakebit at this point.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:54 PM
Prospects....

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:54 PM
I got a bad feeling about this...

http://img.deseretnews.com/images/top/main/23566/23566.jpg

GADawg
07-26-2016, 10:54 PM
i hate to keep picking on Grande but I wish he would be less excited on opponents homers

Banshee
07-26-2016, 10:54 PM
Wow, make that 2 for 19.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 10:54 PM
3 run HR for Matt Cain

Giants 4
Reds 0

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 10:54 PM
Good to see the pitcher batting .056 hit a 425 ft HR

LoganBuck
07-26-2016, 10:54 PM
Gee whiz.

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 10:54 PM
I'm glad Bryan Price insists that Reed couldn't use more time in AAA...

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:55 PM
Prospects....

Suspects....

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 10:55 PM
I can't begin to even evaluate how Reed is doing with this defense so far. WTH?

A HR given to the opposing pitcher should help

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 10:56 PM
That thing was crushed too

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 10:58 PM
A HR given to the opposing pitcher should help

Yeah, as part of the 3rd inning

Rantly
07-26-2016, 10:58 PM
I can't begin to even evaluate how Reed is doing with this defense so far. WTH?

The ball to Cozart, yes should have been an error, but was hit extremely hard regardless

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 10:58 PM
Indeed, I said in his last start he has to feel snakebit at this point.

He just gave up a 425-ft. homer to a pitcher who was 1-for-18. That's on him.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:03 PM
Billy Doubles down the RF line thought he might try for 3

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 11:03 PM
Is Billy turning into an actual big league hitter before our eyes? Or is he teasing us?

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 11:04 PM
He just gave up a 425-ft. homer to a pitcher who was 1-for-18. That's on him.

It is....and if Cozart missing one, catcher interfering for another freebee, Duvall missing a pop fly for yet another freebee...if we had the ability to go back in time and those players make those plays...which all 3 literally always do. I'd bet he wouldn't have given up a HR...now don't get me wrong. The HR is completely a result of Reed's loss of focus/slash terrible pitch.

Players have to pick each other up and early on no one is picking anyone up and are continuing the onslaught of terrible baseball tonight.

Let's get it going now. Someone get it started.

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:04 PM
Wow, make that 2 for 19.


He just gave up a 425-ft. homer to a pitcher who was 1-for-18. That's on him.I hit send on that before it happened.


I'm thrilled Reds fans now hate our best pitching prospect, thanks Reds.

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 11:06 PM
I can't begin to even evaluate how Reed is doing with this defense so far. WTH?

Yeah I don't put any of that on him. First two batters should have been out. The fly ball, Billy would have had that but I think Duvall called him off.

- - - Updated - - -

Can't blame a rookie for getting all flustered after that and grooving one to the pitcher who just got really lucky.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:06 PM
Clean food time!

Panera seems like a very Bay Area thing (even though it isn't).

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:09 PM
I defend the Reds when they do things I understand, even if I don't completely agree. This Reed situation, like Peraza, is one I don't understand.

Reed's first 7 starts in AAA: 40.2 innings, 33 hits, 40 strikeouts, 9 walks, 2 HR, 2.21 ERA

Reed's last 4 starts in AAA: 24 innings, 26 hits, 23 strikeouts, 8 walks, 4 HRs, 4.88 ERA

So they waited until teams got a chance to get another look at him, make adjustments, hit him better...and then called him up. Makes as much sense as calling up Peraza and having him sit his ass on the bench every day.

BluegrassRedleg
07-26-2016, 11:10 PM
He just gave up a 425-ft. homer to a pitcher who was 1-for-18. That's on him.

It's the same-ol-same-ol with this guy... He can't locate to save his life.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:10 PM
I hit send on that before it happened.


I'm thrilled Reds fans now hate our best pitching prospect, thanks Reds.

Things were happening so quickly that it was hard for me to keep up. I didn't mean for it to sound like I was being snarky.

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 11:12 PM
Is George drunj? He did too tag him with the ball. Great play by Phillips

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 11:13 PM
I defend the Reds when they do things I understand, even if I don't completely agree. This Reed situation, like Peraza, is one I don't understand.

Reed's first 7 starts in AAA: 40.2 innings, 33 hits, 40 strikeouts, 9 walks, 2 HR, 2.21 ERA

Reed's last 4 starts in AAA: 24 innings, 26 hits, 23 strikeouts, 8 walks, 4 HRs, 4.88 ERA

So they waited until teams got a chance to get another look at him, make adjustments, hit him better...and then called him up. Makes as much sense as calling up Peraza and having him sit his ass on the bench every day.

Young pitchers generally get knocked around. That's been happening since Moses wore short pants. If Reed is any good, he'll adjust and become what his talent says he should become.

I don't get the Peraza situation at all. No sense having him up to sit the bench.

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:13 PM
Oh god, BP missed the tag.

What a disaster.

BluegrassRedleg
07-26-2016, 11:13 PM
RIDICULOUS. How long do you get???

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 11:13 PM
safe

c'mon BP

GADawg
07-26-2016, 11:13 PM
the good news is that we can all go ahead and go to bed and rest up for tomorrow's game

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:13 PM
Double Play ends the inning!!!

Giants Challenge

Looks like Phillips missed the tag.

No DP runner going to 2B is safe

Giants 5
Reds 0

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 11:14 PM
Little easier to evaluate Reed now. He appears to be pitching like the majority of our relief pitchers the first half of the season

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 11:14 PM
I swear I think some of these Giants fans have their manhood wrapped up in the success or failure of every damn play. Jesus.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 11:16 PM
I swear I think some of these Giants fans have their manhood wrapped up in the success or failure of every damn play. Jesus.

Sounds like Wrigley Field

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:16 PM
Young pitchers generally get knocked around. That's been happening since Moses wore short pants. If Reed is any good, he'll adjust and become what his talent says he should become.

I don't get the Peraza situation at all. No sense having him up to sit the bench.
I know you are a strong proponent of pitchers coming up and taking their licks, but there are certain thresholds for me. I think minor league development matters, and so does major league service time for that matter. Reed started last year in A+ ball, and doesn't even have a full seasons worth of starts in the AA-AAA level combined.

For me it's not even so much that the Reds called him up too soon, that happens, it's that so far they are stubbornly refusing to admit it.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:16 PM
I've got a bad feeling about this.

http://img.deseretnews.com/images/top/main/23566/23566.jpg

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 11:17 PM
Looks like a finger is touching to me...no angle showed it wasn't

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160727/6104a4ef23f1c085f0ed718d71dec176.jpg

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:18 PM
Yeah great, first strikeout of the game with 8 hits and 5 runs in.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:19 PM
I know you are a strong proponent of pitchers coming up and taking their licks, but there are certain thresholds for me. I think minor league development matters, and so does major league service time for that matter. Reed started last year in A+ ball, and doesn't even have a full seasons worth of starts in the AA-AAA level combined.

For me it's not even so much that the Reds called him up too soon, that happens, it's that so far they are stubbornly refusing to admit it.

You and I have disagreed about Reed, and I actually hope you are right because I want him to do well.

But I have seen nothing in him that makes me think he is anything close to a big-league pitcher at this point.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:20 PM
Joey Votto Goes Boom!!!!!!!

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 11:20 PM
VOTTO

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 11:20 PM
Joey staying crazy locked in..geesh

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:21 PM
Votto! :jump:

5-1 game

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 11:22 PM
I know you are a strong proponent of pitchers coming up and taking their licks, but there are certain thresholds for me. I think minor league development matters, and so does major league service time for that matter. Reed started last year in A+ ball, and doesn't even have a full seasons worth of starts in the AA-AAA level combined.

For me it's not even so much that the Reds called him up too soon, that happens, it's that so far they are stubbornly refusing to admit it.

I just think it's better that he takes his inevitable licks now when it doesn't really matter, than later when it does (hopefully)

The best place to learn to get Major League hitters out is in the major leagues IMO. I just don't see anything more to gain in AAA for Reed at this point. He's gotta learn to swim or sink.

Fil3232
07-26-2016, 11:22 PM
Stayed up for one more Votto AB. Didn't disappoint. Guy is unreal.

Kc61
07-26-2016, 11:22 PM
Haven't watched too much tonight. But Reed is a slider first pitcher and the slider isn't deceiving anyone.

If you're going to lead with your breaking pitch, in the majors, it had better be devestating.

That's why I think Stephenson has a better chance, he's the classic pitcher who leads with the fastball, as I understand, who uses his secondary stuff to keep hitters honest.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:23 PM
Congratulations to Joey Votto, who has tied recent Hall of Fame inductee Ken Griffey Jr. for eighth place on the Reds all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 231
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Joey Votto - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Brandon Phillips - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:24 PM
Haven't watched too much tonight. But Reed is a slider first pitcher and the slider isn't deceiving anyone.

If you're going to lead with your breaking pitch, in the majors, it had better be devestating.

That's why I think Stephenson has a better chance, he's the classic pitcher who leads with the fastball, as I understand, who uses his secondary stuff to keep hitters honest.

They have been hammering his fastball not his slider..

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:25 PM
The best place to learn to get Major League hitters out is in the major leagues IMO. I just don't see anything more to gain in AAA for Reed at this point. He's gotta learn to swim or sink.
I keep hearing people say this but I don't understand it. Why have a Triple-A then? I think there is plenty to gain from making more than just 11 starts at the AAA level. You get to see the same hitters again like you will in the big leagues. The hitters have more patience, they punish more mistake pitches, and you have to repeat your mechanics every time out.

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:26 PM
You and I have disagreed about Reed, and I actually hope you are right because I want him to do well.

But I have seen nothing in him that makes me think he is anything close to a big-league pitcher at this point.
If you haven't watched him in the minors or know the scouting reports or his history, which I know is the case with you, yes, I understand he's looked bad. Ridiculously bad given the HR/9 rate. But I guarantee you he won't continue to be this bad over a larger period of time. He's got too much talent.


Haven't watched too much tonight. But Reed is a slider first pitcher and the slider isn't deceiving anyone.

If you're going to lead with your breaking pitch, in the majors, it had better be devestating.

That's why I think Stephenson has a better chance, he's the classic pitcher who leads with the fastball, as I understand, who uses his secondary stuff to keep hitters honest.
He's just throwing fastballs over the middle is the problem.

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 11:28 PM
Annnnd Joey Votto's OPS is officially over .900

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 11:31 PM
Reed has been hurt a lot by the defense tonight. He's making hitters get themselves out but the fielders have to catch the ball. And they aren't. It's not as bad as it looks, imo.

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:31 PM
Annnnd Joey Votto's OPS is officially over .900
Boy I'm bout to do it.

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:33 PM
With the Votto OPS over .900, the avatar is back by popular demand.

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:34 PM
Nice inning from Reed.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 11:34 PM
I keep hearing people say this but I don't understand it. Why have a Triple-A then? I think there is plenty to gain from making more than just 11 starts at the AAA level. You get to see the same hitters again like you will in the big leagues. The hitters have more patience, they punish more mistake pitches, and you have to repeat your mechanics every time out.

AAA is for fringe players or for guys who are blocked to get reps. The Reds staff has been largely crap all year. Reed is their top prospect who's been dominating the minor leagues for a year and a half. He should be with the big club, learning on the job during a season where his results don't really matter much. Whether or not he's successful is something time will answer, but the big leagues is where he should be IMO.

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 11:34 PM
With the Votto OPS over .900, the avatar is back by popular demand.

Jinx

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:36 PM
Jinx
I know, it's why I've been holding off. But it's what the people want.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:36 PM
Suarez leads off the 5th with a line single to CF

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:38 PM
If you haven't watched him in the minors or know the scouting reports or his history, which I know is the case with you, yes, I understand he's looked bad. Ridiculously bad given the HR/9 rate. But I guarantee you he won't continue to be this bad over a larger period of time. He's got too much talent.


He's just throwing fastballs over the middle is the problem.

Yes, I will admit that I don't follow the minors closely, and seldom if ever look at minor-league scouting reports. I do occasionally look at minor league stats to see how players are performing.

And yes, he has looked very bad since his callup. But I also look at him and say to myself, "He's left-handed, and he's got a major-league body. There's got to be something there."

But he's definitely not ready for prime time. I agree that at this point he needs more time at Louisville.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 11:38 PM
This game isn't over. Cain stinks.

Rantly
07-26-2016, 11:39 PM
Billy raked an RBI single to right!

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:39 PM
Billy RBI single to RF

Giants 5
Reds 2

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:40 PM
5-2 game. Billy loves him some big west coast parks.

- - - Updated - - -

He's safe.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:42 PM
WOW!!! 3 calls overturned tonight

Rantly
07-26-2016, 11:42 PM
Don't see how they overturned that one but good for BH

BluegrassRedleg
07-26-2016, 11:43 PM
WOW!!! 3 calls overturned tonight

Country Joe & Co. are struggling.

Tracy Jones
07-26-2016, 11:44 PM
Country Joe & Co. are struggling.

Just another night at the office for him and his crew

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:44 PM
Giants 5
Reds 2

middle of the 5th

WVRedsFan
07-26-2016, 11:44 PM
Popout makes it all for naught.

40YrRedsFan
07-26-2016, 11:46 PM
Cody Reed is the Reds 'not ready for prime time' player.

40YrRedsFan
07-26-2016, 11:48 PM
Until Reed learns to throw inside, he's gonna get hammered.

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:48 PM
Cabrera's receiving skills seem to leave something to be desired. Would prefer to have a veteran, big-league backstop handling these kids.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:48 PM
Cody Reed is the Reds 'not ready for prime time' player.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/24/8e/d1/248ed18b31f2a65c12e5a840845821db.jpg

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:50 PM
Cabrera's receiving skills seem to leave something to be desired. Would prefer to have a veteran, big-league backstop handling these kids.

I was thinking the same thing. There seems to be something lacking in his fundamentals.

40YrRedsFan
07-26-2016, 11:51 PM
Reed was hosed on that inside fastball. Looked like a strike to me.

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 11:52 PM
Marty complaining about Votto cutting that ball off that Bruce had no chance to get Posey?

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:53 PM
I was thinking the same thing. There seems to be something lacking in his fundamentals.
It's becoming clear to me why he was stuck in AAA despite having a decent stick for a catcher.


6-2 Giants on a sac fly.

Rantly
07-26-2016, 11:53 PM
Cabrera's receiving skills seem to leave something to be desired. Would prefer to have a veteran, big-league backstop handling these kids.

Corky?

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:53 PM
Marty complaining about Votto cutting that ball off that Bruce had no chance to get Posey?
lol is he really complaining? That throw wasn't going to do anything.

TheRedScare
07-26-2016, 11:54 PM
lol is he really complaining? That throw wasn't going to do anything.

No I was asking haha, I'm watching on TV

Tom Servo
07-26-2016, 11:56 PM
Votto with a leadoff single.

Ron Madden
07-26-2016, 11:56 PM
Line Drive single to CF for Votto leading off the 6th

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 11:56 PM
Yes yes yes!

BluegrassRedleg
07-26-2016, 11:56 PM
lol is he really complaining? That throw wasn't going to do anything.

He's been in rare form tonight. Woke up on the wrong side of the bed, for sure.

Big Klu
07-26-2016, 11:58 PM
Marty complaining about Votto cutting that ball off that Bruce had no chance to get Posey?

It wouldn't be Votto's fault anyway. The catcher calls for the cut on a throw like that.

WrongVerb
07-26-2016, 11:58 PM
Yes yes yes!

This was supposed to be in response to Tom's observation about Cabrera. Oh well.

Ironman92
07-26-2016, 11:58 PM
Votto singles...I need Tom Servo to keep a running OPS with his avatar change. So far it's 2.000

Playadlc
07-27-2016, 12:00 AM
How has Reed looked tonight? Unlucky again?

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 12:01 AM
Yes yes yes!

http://www.f4wonline.com/sites/www.f4wonline.com/files/Daniel_Bryan_2012CutByJibunjis.png

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 12:01 AM
Man, I find it hard to believe that when teams are playing guys like Howie Kendrick(!) in the outfield that there really isn't heavy interest in trading for Jay Bruce. Unless CarGo and Braun are available, and I don't think they will get moved, there is nobody else available who is better than Bruce.

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2016, 12:02 AM
2-Run HR for Duvall... All the sudden it's 6-4.

WrongVerb
07-27-2016, 12:02 AM
Heat selling missile, that was. Wow!

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 12:02 AM
Duvall! :jump:

6-4 game!

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:03 AM
The Louisville Slugger Adam Duvall touches'em all

Giants 6
Reds 4

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 12:04 AM
How has Reed looked tonight? Unlucky again?
Defense did him zero favors, I think more of his runs should have been unearned, but he continues to struggle avoiding the middle of the plate (or "Right...Down...Broadway" as the Cowboy likes to say).

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:11 AM
Giants 6
Reds 4
middle of the 6th

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 12:11 AM
Chris notes it's hard to believe Cain has been around 10 years. I agree, feels like yesterday the 2006 Reds collapsed against Cain and the Giants on the west coast.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN200608270.shtml

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 12:17 AM
Lorenzen with a one pitch out and a one-out walk. Yesiree double play to end the frame.

Ironman92
07-27-2016, 12:18 AM
How has Reed looked tonight? Unlucky again?

Like our relief pitchers in April/May with bad defense behind them

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:18 AM
Double Play ends the inning.
Giants 6
Reds 4
Time for the Reds to make their comeback

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:21 AM
Chris notes it's hard to believe Cain has been around 10 years. I agree, feels like yesterday the 2006 Reds collapsed against Cain and the Giants on the west coast.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN200608270.shtml

Losing pitcher that day was Kyle Lohse. He lost again today...his job that is, as he was DFA'd by the Rangers.

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:23 AM
De Jesus to PH again reaches base on an E5

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 12:24 AM
Not sure how Ivan Jr. doesn't get a hit on that ball when a similar ball was ruled a hit for the Giants in the 2nd inning.

Maybe Peņa should wear a cup when he plays 3B.

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:25 AM
Not sure how Ivan Jr. doesn't get a hit on that ball when a similar ball was ruled a hit for the Giants in the 2nd inning.

Maybe Peņa should wear a cup when he plays 3B.
Sweetheart scorer

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 12:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUTVmuqviqE

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:26 AM
He's speaking about 3 octives higher right now.

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2016, 12:28 AM
Umpires tonight: gawd-awful

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:28 AM
Billy didn't like strike 3 call

Ironman92
07-27-2016, 12:28 AM
Joe West is such an embarrassment to MLB. He's as bad as those hideous NBA refs.

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:29 AM
Billy didn't like strike 3 call

Reds hosed again on a ball or strike call.

westofyou
07-27-2016, 12:29 AM
Losing pitcher that day was Kyle Lohse. He lost again today...his job that is, as he was DFA'd by the Rangers.

Stupid Reds should have signed him...

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:31 AM
Cozart single to CF
Runners at 1st & 2nd for Joey Votto

WrongVerb
07-27-2016, 12:32 AM
Not sure how Ivan Jr. doesn't get a hit on that ball when a similar ball was ruled a hit for the Giants in the 2nd inning.

Maybe Peņa should wear a cup when he plays 3B.

That hurt me from 150 feet away. Sounded like the ball hit the bat twice.

Ironman92
07-27-2016, 12:32 AM
Predicting back to back triples from Ruth and Gehrig here

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 12:33 AM
Stupid Reds should have signed him...
Glad someone else remembers that lol

Ironman92
07-27-2016, 12:34 AM
Darn it Servo

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 12:35 AM
darn LOOGYs

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:35 AM
Still
Giants 6
Reds 4

Middle of the 7th

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:35 AM
Today's game is number 100 of the season. It's been a pretty tough season. But come October, I will be wishing April, 2017 would get here.

westofyou
07-27-2016, 12:36 AM
I hope all your nights are better than mine, eating a late dinner at an Applebee's ( cause it's open) beat the Seattle airport.. At least they have local microbrews


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Ironman92
07-27-2016, 12:37 AM
darn LOOGYs

He really hides the ball well from Votto. He makes Joey look bad most every time.

westofyou
07-27-2016, 12:37 AM
Today's game is number 100 of the season. It's been a pretty tough season. But come October, I will be wishing April, 2017 would get here.

I already am myself

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 12:39 AM
That hurt me from 150 feet away. Sounded like the ball hit the bat twice.

OK, we're going to try something. If it works, everybody hit Bogdanski! OK, on 2!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HWAQ8rTBLUk/maxresdefault.jpg

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:42 AM
GOOD LORD!!!!

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:42 AM
Wood putting it on a tee for the Giants

Or walking them.

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:45 AM
Finally Wood gets an out!!!

WrongVerb
07-27-2016, 12:45 AM
At least no one has homered yet off a reliever...

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:47 AM
At least no one has homered yet off a reliever...

Give'em time

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:49 AM
I think this one is ovah!

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:49 AM
They're beatin on Blake Wood like a drum

I'd leave him out there to get his brains beat out

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:55 AM
Wood finally retires the Giants in the 7th. 9-4 Giants

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:56 AM
Bruuuuuuuuuuce!!!!!!!!!

HR


GIANTS 9
REDS 5

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 12:58 AM
Duvall goes back to back!!!!!!

Giants 9
Reds 6

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 12:58 AM
Bruce making himself look good. He must want to get traded.;)

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 12:59 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 232
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Joey Votto - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Brandon Phillips - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 01:01 AM
Bruce making himself look good. He must want to get traded.;)

NO... I believe him when he says he'd like to retire as a Red

40YrRedsFan
07-27-2016, 01:04 AM
NO... I believe him when he says he'd like to retire as a Red

I know he wants to stay......but if he wants play for a championship, Cincinnati is not the place.


Not in the next few years anyway.

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 01:09 AM
I think George forgot that Duvall homered in the sixth inning. He kept saying that Duvall had hit his 24th homer to tie Bruce. Adam has two homers tonight.

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2016, 01:15 AM
I'm out of time. :p

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2016, 01:17 AM
LOL... I went back to watch that Billy Hamilton awful call earlier again on replay. Never put it back in real time. :p

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 01:19 AM
Duvall follows it up with another HR.

I think you're runnin way behind..

Kingspoint
07-27-2016, 01:21 AM
I think you're runnin way behind..

We should draft Gibson instead of Alonso.

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2016, 01:21 AM
I kept thinking, "Wow, the Reds have hit a couple of dingers and nobody's got much to say." :laugh:

Kingspoint
07-27-2016, 01:23 AM
One of (or two!) PH, Hamilton or Cozart to get on to set up the drama for Votto/Bruce/Duvall.

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 01:26 AM
I kept thinking, "Wow, the Reds have hit a couple of dingers and nobody's got much to say." :laugh:

We were giving you the silent treatment.

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 01:27 AM
Billy goes to 1B with a walk!!!!

TheRedScare
07-27-2016, 01:28 AM
The stupid Votto hate will be real if he makes the last out of the game, despite him having a great game otherwise. Oh well.

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 01:28 AM
Billy goes to 1b with a walk!!!!

He's getting on base a lot more often recently.

TheRedScare
07-27-2016, 01:29 AM
Walk, hit, or flyout please. GIDP/K not an option.

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 01:30 AM
Cozart singles Billy to 3rd.

Joey at the plate

WVRedsFan
07-27-2016, 01:30 AM
Cody Reed needs more seasoning. Judgment. Always my criticism of the manager. If Cory doesn't need more seasoning in AAA, I think they need to replace hi on the roster.

TheRedScare
07-27-2016, 01:32 AM
Oh man, Joey JUST missed that

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 01:32 AM
Joey sac fly scores Billy

Giants 9
Reds 7

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 01:33 AM
The stupid Votto hate will be real if he makes the last out of the game, despite him having a great game otherwise. Oh well.

Franchester is conflicted. Votto made an out, but it was a sac fly.

Kingspoint
07-27-2016, 01:33 AM
Just too bad Reed had to start.

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 01:35 AM
George, Duvall has 25 HR's now.

TheRedScare
07-27-2016, 01:36 AM
Franchester is conflicted. Votto made an out, but it was a sac fly.

he's probably happier than he would be if Votto walked tbh

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2016, 01:36 AM
We were giving you the silent treatment.

11273

WVRedsFan
07-27-2016, 01:36 AM
Reds lose 9-7, but they battled. Without the Reed start, they had a chance.

Tom Servo
07-27-2016, 01:37 AM
Jay with 3 swings and misses at that knuckle curve in the dirt. Oh well.

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 01:37 AM
You can't blame the Reds hitters for tonights loss. You ain't gonna win many games when ya give up 9 runs.

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 01:38 AM
Congratulations once again to Joey Votto, who has tied Hall of Fame inductee Ken Griffey, Jr. for eighth place on the Reds all-time home run list.

Votto and Jay Bruce also hit the Daily Double by homering in the same game.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 232
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Joey Votto - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Brandon Phillips - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

Kingspoint
07-27-2016, 01:39 AM
It's hard to win when they need 9 runs, or when 7 isn't enough.

When Bruce is gone, the Offense will dry up. Phillips isn't a Major Leaguer any more, so they'll pitch around Votto and Duvall. Everyone else's OBP sucks.

It really sucks wasting the talents of Votto, Dunn, Cueto, Chapman, Frazier, Bruce, Cozart and Leake.

Ron Madden
07-27-2016, 01:40 AM
Reds @ Giants Box Score

http://m.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-giants/2016/07/26/448358#game=448358,game_state=final,game_tab=box

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 01:43 AM
On pace for 63-99.

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 01:46 AM
Reds fall to 5-8 on Bow Tie Tuesday.

Big Klu
07-27-2016, 02:04 AM
In 35⅔ innings, Cody Reed has given up 14 BB's and 10 HR's.

But Bryan Price mentions in the interview with Jim Day that he's learning some lessons.

WrongVerb
07-27-2016, 02:21 AM
Dangit! I left after the end of the 7th and didn't get to see the back to back jacks from Bruce and Duvall. Ah, well, chalk another one up for the bad guys. And bring that top draft pick a little bit closer.

WrongVerb
07-27-2016, 02:24 AM
It's hard to win when they need 9 runs, or when 7 isn't enough.

When Bruce is gone, the Offense will dry up. Phillips isn't a Major Leaguer any more, so they'll pitch around Votto and Duvall. Everyone else's OBP sucks.

It really sucks wasting the talents of Votto, Dunn, Cueto, Chapman, Frazier, Bruce, Cozart and Leake.

Opening day 2013 (when Ludwick went down and the team did nothing to address the gaping maw in left field) is when the Reds administration quit trying to win the world series. The rest since then has been downhill minutia.

cumberlandreds
07-27-2016, 07:07 AM
Reds are now 0-7 in games that Reed has started. Not too good.

Ironman92
07-27-2016, 07:54 AM
Reed definitely wasn't good. I can't bash on him without also thinking of the horrid horrid defense early on and then what Wood did.

This was more of a team loss.

Kingspoint
07-27-2016, 11:46 AM
Opening day 2013 (when Ludwick went down and the team did nothing to address the gaping maw in left field) is when the Reds administration quit trying to win the world series. The rest since then has been downhill minutia.

Yes, that was inexcusable incompetence. Letting Phillips play with an injured wrist/hand for months to the detriment of the team was no better, and that medical decision was repeated over and over again with different starters.

Incompetent in-season "non-decisions" is Walt's trademark. He's very good in the off-season, but is a piss-poor GM during it...always has been.