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fielder's choice
06-02-2004, 12:42 AM
He looked terrible at the plate, and we all know about his poor D. He's worthless to us at this point.

Chip R
06-02-2004, 12:49 AM
He looked terrible at the plate, and we all know about his poor D. He's worthless to us at this point.
LaRue? Lopez? Wily Mo? Hummell?

Super_Barry11
06-02-2004, 12:51 AM
Hummel just screams "thug life" to me... :lol:

CougarQuest
06-02-2004, 12:54 AM
Is this another personal attack on Casey?

RosieRed
06-02-2004, 12:55 AM
Hummel just screams "thug life" to me... :lol:

:MandJ: :MandJ: :MandJ:

:roll:

TeamBoone
06-02-2004, 12:55 AM
I'm going to assume you mean Lopez, seeing as he's the last to be called up.

Why are you calling him a thug? Because of his tattoos (that show)? That's the only reason I can think of.

Also, IMHO, you can't tell much from the few ABs he got tonight; give the guy a chance.

jmcclain19
06-02-2004, 12:59 AM
Hummel just screams "thug life" to me... :lol:

Yeah, I'd have to agree there

BoydsOfSummer
06-02-2004, 12:59 AM
Fe-No(socks) just needs a couple sweet remote controlled cars to get in a groove. He'll be alright.

NC Reds
06-02-2004, 01:09 AM
I'm not a FeLo fan. I thought Olmedo was better last year.

Chip R
06-02-2004, 01:15 AM
Freel? ;)

CougarQuest
06-02-2004, 01:21 AM
You know, I attempted to make jest of this post but it really does bother me that one of the Reds players is being called a "Thug" with no basis behind why. Has this player done something to qualify him being called a "thug" (oh I don't know like; snatched an old ladies purse while she was crossing the street; broke into a church to steal the Christmas fund; punched a player running from 2nd to 3rd for no reason; sexually assaulted of one of the Rosie Reds).

westofyou
06-02-2004, 01:35 AM
I'm not a FeLo fan. I thought Olmedo was better last year.

They were the same guy, except Felipe could get on base a bit more.


RAINER OLMEDO

GIVEN NAME: Rainer Gustavo Olmedo
BORN: 5/31/1981 Maracay, Venezuela
BAT: B THROW: R HEIGHT: 5'11" WEIGHT: 150 MLB DEBUT: 5/25/2003
CAREER GAMES BY POSITION: 2B: 18 SS: 51

YEAR TEAM AGE G AB R H 2B 3B HR HR% RBI BB SO SB CS AVG SLG OBA OPS
2003 Reds 22 79 230 24 55 6 1 0 0.00 17 13 46 1 1 .239 .274 .280 .554
TOTALS 79 230 24 55 6 1 0 0.00 17 13 46 1 1 .239 .274 .280 .554
LG AVERAGE 241 34 65 13 1 8 3.21 32 25 44 4 2 .269 .431 .341 .772
POS AVERAGE 239 31 63 12 2 5 1.95 25 19 40 5 2 .262 .387 .318 .705

YEAR TEAM RC RCAA RCAP OWP RC/G TB EBH ISO SEC BPA IBB HBP SAC SF GIDP OUTS PA POS
2003 Reds 17 -19 -12 .206 2.45 63 7 .035 .091 .296 0 0 7 0 4 187 250 SS
TOTALS 17 -19 -12 .206 2.45 63 7 .035 .091 .296 0 0 7 0 4 187 250
LG AVERAGE 36 0 0 .500 5.16 104 22 .162 .273 .472 2 3 2 2 6 187 272
POS AVERAGE 30 -7 0 .411 4.27 92 19 .125 .216 .425 2 2 2 2 5 187 263

FELIPE LOPEZ

2003

YEAR TEAM AGE G AB R H 2B 3B HR HR% RBI BB SO SB CS AVG SLG OBA OPS
2003 Reds 23 59 197 28 42 7 2 2 1.02 13 28 59 8 5 .213 .299 .313 .612
TOTALS 59 197 28 42 7 2 2 1.02 13 28 59 8 5 .213 .299 .313 .612
LG AVERAGE 213 30 57 12 1 7 3.21 28 22 39 3 1 .269 .431 .341 .772
POS AVERAGE 211 28 55 11 2 4 1.95 22 16 35 4 2 .262 .387 .318 .705

YEAR TEAM RC RCAA RCAP OWP RC/G TB EBH ISO SEC BPA IBB HBP SAC SF GIDP OUTS PA POS
2003 Reds 20 -11 -6 .305 3.27 59 11 .086 .244 .392 1 1 2 1 2 165 229 SS
TOTALS 20 -11 -6 .305 3.27 59 11 .086 .244 .392 1 1 2 1 2 165 229
LG AVERAGE 32 0 0 .500 5.16 92 20 .162 .273 .472 2 2 1 2 5 165 240
POS AVERAGE 26 -6 0 .411 4.27 82 17 .125 .216 .425 2 1 2 2 4 165 232

FELIPE LOPEZ



SECOND BASE
YEAR TEAM G PO A E DP PCT RANGE
2003 Reds 3 3 4 1 1 .875 2.33
TOTALS 3 3 4 1 1 .875 2.33

THIRD BASE
YEAR TEAM G PO A E DP PCT RANGE

2003 Reds 8 3 4 0 0 1.000 0.88


SHORTSTOP
YEAR TEAM G PO A E DP PCT RANGE

2003 Reds 50 60 133 15 20 .928 3.86

RAINER OLMEDO



SECOND BASE
YEAR TEAM G PO A E DP PCT RANGE
2003 Reds 18 35 36 0 9 1.000 3.94
TOTALS 18 35 36 0 9 1.000 3.94

SHORTSTOP
YEAR TEAM G PO A E DP PCT RANGE
2003 Reds 51 60 121 14 21 .928 3.55
TOTALS 51 60 121 14 21 .928 3.55

Boss-Hog
06-02-2004, 01:42 AM
FC, I'm also interested as to why Felipe is being called a thug. It's one thing not to like him based on his perfomance (which has obviously been subpar). It's another thing to attack him with no substance behind it.

MasonBuzz3
06-02-2004, 01:48 AM
I say we give the guy more than 2 pinch hit at bats in his first game back before we send him back to louisville.

Chip R
06-02-2004, 01:49 AM
I don't know if he's necessarily calling him a thug. My guess is that he sees FeLo's tats and whatever and believes that FeLo is a person who idolizes gangstas. Kind of like Allen Iverson. He was probably frustrated with FeLo's feeble pinch hitting attempt and he just lashed out in frustration. If FeLo had gone yard, the reaction probably woul have been different.

SYCMiniBus
06-02-2004, 02:05 AM
Wow a guy gets off of a plane 30 minutes before the game starts, gets put in mid game and struggles I bet he isnt the first person in history to struggle after a day of travel especially considering it was his 1st 2 MLB AB's of the season. That and this in general has to be one of the most amazing threads ever. "thug life"??? Is Gravey thug life?? He has more tats then Lopez does.

KronoRed
06-02-2004, 04:25 AM
They were the same guy, except Felipe could get on base a bit more.


Well Olemdo has a cooler first name so I prefer him ;)

And when I read thug I immediately though of Hummel, the guy is trouble ;) :D

RosieRed
06-02-2004, 04:52 AM
I, for one, like Felipe's tattoos. ;)

TeamCasey
06-02-2004, 07:00 AM
Can someone explain the No Socks thing to me? It came up in a thread yesterday too. Didn't know the connection.

Raisor
06-02-2004, 07:41 AM
T is for Tough
H is for Hell
U is for Ugly
and
G is for Jail, cuz everybody knows that a THUG can't spell.

RedFanAlways1966
06-02-2004, 09:05 AM
I have to admit that when I saw Felipe last night...

The tattoos really looked "weird". I am not used to seeing MLB players with visible tattoos. NBA... yep. NFL lineman (who usually have their arms bare)... yep. College basketball players... yep. MLB players... nope.

I am sure that someone will say what about this guy or that guy. I am sure there are others, but as a lifelong REDS fan it really seemed strange. My wife even made a comment about it.... "Woah, are those tattoos? Don't see that too often in baseball."

It is Felipe's decision and I do not care. But it still seemed weird to see that (visible 'toos) on a REDS player. This is the kind of reaction you get from someone who as a kid watched the black-shoed (dorky ones too), stirrup socks pulled all the way down, no facial hair (or tattoos) Big Red Machine of the 1970's. Weird!!

Larkin411
06-02-2004, 09:15 AM
I liked the tattoos, I just wished they'd be on arms that were a little more patient at the plate. But it's probably hard to be a d-lo under those circumstances...maybe with more experience he'll settle down...And no matter what the Reds look like, at least none of them have jesus hair like Johnny Damon...or worse hair like Craig Wilson...shudder...

smith288
06-02-2004, 09:29 AM
ESPN Classic had the 79 series with the Pirates and Orioles. Talk about hairs styles from the pits of hell.

http://www.toptown.com/hp/66/pirate8.gif

Curse the 70's!

SantaClaussen
06-02-2004, 09:31 AM
Hey, if he ever learns to hit like his hype suggests he can then he can tattoo his face for all I care. Having a son with more art on his body than the Met (and one "old style" tatt myself) it doesn't bother me in the least. Tatts don't make a thug. They just encourage the narrow minded to make wisecracks.

Thanks for the fielding stats WOY - I was surprised to see that indeed, Ranier looks no better in the field when you see the numbers.

I am in the camp that sya give FeLo a chance - last night he was doubtless jet-lagged (its a long trip to Miami) and thrown in the game. I'll give the guy more than a couple at bats before I send the 'Hood Posse after him.

smith288
06-02-2004, 09:35 AM
I don't buy the "long flight" excuse for FeLo.

I blame the "cant play at this level" excuse.

But thats just me.

SYCMiniBus
06-02-2004, 11:28 AM
Wow 2 AB's and send him down he is done, a bit pre mature don't you think.

Chip R
06-02-2004, 11:37 AM
Wow 2 AB's and send him down he is done, a bit pre mature don't you think.
Some people wanted to cut Van Poppel before he even threw a pitch this year.

Chip R
06-02-2004, 01:21 PM
FeLo may be Thug Life but he's no match for this guy

zombie-a-go-go
06-02-2004, 01:26 PM
Whatever... cat's got no tats. :D

KYRedsFan
06-02-2004, 01:48 PM
Just a terrible thread. That is all.

TeamCasey
06-02-2004, 01:49 PM
Just a terrible thread. That is all.

....... and still, I don't know what "no socks" means. :MandJ:

smith288
06-02-2004, 01:50 PM
Wow 2 AB's and send him down he is done, a bit pre mature don't you think.He had time with the Reds last year and Toronto.

2001 - 49 games - Toronto
2002 - 85 games - Toronto
2003 - 59 games - Reds

sporting a whopping .231 avg and a .298 obp. He has had chances. Im just losing all hope with that guy. He had more errors (15) than RBIs (13).

I hope he proves me wrong but he has AAA material written all over him.

Red Leader
06-02-2004, 01:52 PM
....... and still, I don't know what "no socks" means. :MandJ:

It's pretty stupid actually, TC. Lance said yesterday that Lopez showed up late to a game last year and forgot his socks at the hotel, so he took batting practice without any socks and was heckled for it or something to that effect.

Chip R
06-02-2004, 01:53 PM
....... and still, I don't know what "no socks" means. :MandJ:
According to Lance, Lopez was late to batting practice last year and showed up to the cage without socks on. He had forgotten them.

westofyou
06-02-2004, 01:58 PM
According to Lance, Lopez was late to batting practice last year and showed up to the cage without socks on. He had forgotten them.

And Casey Candel use to swing in the Astros underground cage in the buff.

I'd rather have to deal with the guy without the socks.

Red Leader
06-02-2004, 02:00 PM
And Casey Candel use to swing in the Astros underground cage in the buff.

I'd rather have to deal with the guy without the socks.

I would laugh my butt off if he fouled one straight down off the plate real hard. :MandJ: At least wear a cup

Chip R
06-02-2004, 02:01 PM
I would laugh my butt off if he fouled one straight down off the plate real hard. :MandJ: At least wear a cup
How are you going to keep it on without a jock?

Red Leader
06-02-2004, 02:03 PM
How are you going to keep it on without a jock?


Duct tape. Geez. Every guy knows that you use duct tape for everything ;)

KronoRed
06-02-2004, 04:08 PM
Duct tape. Geez. Every guy knows that you use duct tape for everything ;)

Not for that!!! :eek: :eek:

tremere
06-02-2004, 05:13 PM
I liked the tattoos, I just wished they'd be on arms that were a little more patient at the plate. But it's probably hard to be a d-lo under those circumstances...maybe with more experience he'll settle down...And no matter what the Reds look like, at least none of them have jesus hair like Johnny Damon...or worse hair like Craig Wilson...shudder...

I for one like all the long hair. It screams of Howard Johnson to me. The days when players like John Kruk (please, no bashing of his commentary) played the game like good ol' boys do. Today, it's all about "pretty boy" hygiene and appearances.

TampaBayRed
06-02-2004, 07:02 PM
Lol Chip! Michael Bolton is indeed a thug! I love how he raps along with gangsta rap in his car, then rolls up the window when a black guy walks by!
God I love that movie!!! :D