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WVRed
06-07-2004, 01:36 PM
If anybody can find scouting reports that I dont have, it would be greatly appreciated.

1.RHP-Homer Bailey(LaGrange HS Texas)(6'4 185, R-R)
2.OF-BJ Szymanski(Princeton)(6'5 210, S-R)
3.C-Craig Tatum(Mississippi St)((6'1 215, R-R)
4.RHP-Rafael Gonzalez(George Washington HS NY)(6'3 225, R-R)
5.SS-Paul Janish(Rice University)(6'2 180, R-R)
6.C-Lonny Roa(Puerto Rico Baseball Academy)(6'3 215, R-R)
7.LHP-Phillippe Alexan Valliquette(Canada HS)(6'0 175, L-L)
8.LHP-Gregory Goetz(Bellevue CC)(6'4 195, L-L)
9.2B-Trevor Lawhorn(East Carolina)(6'2 182, R-R)
10.RHP-Terrell Young(Grenada HS)(6'3 175, R-R)
11.RHP-Jason Urquidez(Arizona St)(6'1 165, R-R)
12.OF-Cody Strait(Evansville U)(6'1 185, R-R)
13.IF-Drew Anderson(Ohio St)(5'9 170, S-R)
14.RHP-Jared Sanders(Oregon St)(6'2 210, R-R)
15.3B-JD Reninger(Texas)(5'10 190, R-R)
16.OF-Travis Kaats(Grand Canyon University)(6'1 205, R-R)
17.SS-Milton Loo(Hawaii HS)(6'1 185, R-R)
18.LHP-Charles O'Neal(Chipola JC Georgia)(6'4 165, R-L)
19.LHP-Andrew Jenson(San Diego St)(6'2 200, L-L)
20.C-Robert Coello(Okaloosa Walton CC)(6'4 215, R-R)
21.SS-Blake Honey(Lafayette HS Ark)(6'1 175, R-R)
22.3B-Matt Levering(Regis Univ Col)(6'0 195, R-R)
23.OF-Pedro Hawkins(Green River CC)(5'10 195, R-R)
24.RHP-Adam Gilliahan(Crowder College)(6'3 200, R-R)
25.LHP-Robert Nichols(Sabino HS AZ)(6'5 215, L-L)
26.RHP-Johnny Ray Dillard(Southwestern Oklahoma St)(6'1 160, R-R)
27.RF-James Langham(Georgia College)(Not available)
28.CF-Donny Ecker(Los Altos HS Cal)(6'4 190, L-R)
29.LHP-Darnell Sparks(Prairie View A&M)(6'0 170, L-L)
30.LHP-David Griffin(Fresno St)(6'0 180, L-L)
31.RHP-Jacob Arrieta(Plano East Sr HS)(6'3 210, R-R)
32.RHP-Robert Wachman(Valdosta St)(Not available)
33.RHP-Dylan Moseley(Arkansas HS)(6'4 185, R-R)
34.SS-Drew Phillips(Northwestern Oklahoma St)(6'2 195, R-R)
35.RHP-Robert Palencia(Monsignor Edward Pace HS, Miami, FL.)(6'1 190, R-R)
36.LHP-Todd Johnson(Central Michigan)(6'3 210, L-L)
37.LF-Andrew Wells(Tulsa Union HS)(6'2 205, R-R)
38.C-Robert Orton(Florida Atlantic U)(6'1 210, R-R)
39.1B-Mario Colletto(Simi Valley HS)(6'3 165, L-L)
40.RHP-Brad Morenko(Oakland U)(6'4 215, R-R)
41.RHP-Scott Mueller(Greenway HS)(6'3 175, R-R)
42.SS-Ben Price(Terra Linda HS)(6'3 185, S-R)
43.RHP-Benjamin Parker(Huston-Tilluston College)(6'3 220, R-R)
44.C-Jacob Long(Johansen HS)(6'1 180, R-R)
45.RF-Brandon Roberts(U Michigan)(6'4 215, L-R)
46.1B-Justin Glover(Westside HS)(6'1 220, R-R)
47.1B-Bradley Jarrell(Denham Springs HS, R-R)
48.3B-Bradley Key(South Carolina)(6'0 185, R-R)
49.RHP-Tyler Cales(James Madison HS)(6'4 195, R-R)
50.LF-Juan Buck(East HS)(6'3 214, R-R)


Baseball America on Homer Bailey-
There's not often a lot of fuss in La Grange, Texas. A town of 4,500, it sets off U.S. Highway 77 about midway between San Antonio and Houston, and beyond the Fayette County Fair and an air show, there's not much going on.

But once a week during baseball season this spring, La Grange became a must-see travel destination for major league scouting directors and crosscheckers. And they all came to see easygoing, hard-throwing senior righthander Homer Bailey.

David "Homer" Bailey Jr. is the real McCoy. He drives a Ford F-150 diesel pickup truck, wears boots and a cowboy hat and spends his free time hunting in the woods back of his father's egg farm. "Right now it's wild boar season," he says. "I cut the tusks out and keep a collection in my room."

Like the eye of a hurricane, the sanguine Bailey hasn't been caught up in the hype that has surrounded the town, yet he is at its center. He offers a mid-90s fastball, solid secondary pitches, a slender, projectable build and an unflappable demeanor strong enough to withstand a Texas twister. It has made him the most sought-after high school player in the draft class of 2004.

The 18-year-old has long been a big deal in his hometown. Texas has produced a bevy of pitching prospects, and it was clear Bailey was another one in the making as he cut his teeth against the state's tough competition. He has notched wins over current minor league pitching prospects Zach Segovia and Don Levinski, to name just a couple.

Legacy Born
As a freshman in 2001, Bailey was thrown right in to the fire and led La Grange High to the Class 3-A championship. He matched up with future Reds first-rounder Ryan Wagner, then a Houston-bound senior, in a regional final against Yoakum High and outdueled him to advance. Against Iowa Park High in the state semifinals, he took on lefty Chase Wright, a third-round pick that year by the Yankees, and dominated, winning 7-1. "He could do everything," recalls Wright, now with the Yankees' Class A Battle Creek affiliate. "In that big of a game to get the start, that takes a lot. Velocity-wise and good command . . . You could tell he had a chance."

A day later in the title game against Forney High, with the score tied 3-3 in the fifth inning, La Grange coach Ralph Ferguson called on Bailey in relief. He retired all eight batters he faced as La Grange rallied to win 4-3. As a 15-year-old, Bailey was the Class 3-A tournament MVP as the winning pitcher in the school's first state championship since 1973.

"When you're around baseball you just see certain talents, and you know they're special," Ferguson says. "He handled pressure very well from the beginning."

Bailey's fastball was touching 89 mph then, and his velocity has climbed each year. Despite his impressive credentials, however, he entered his senior season as one of about a dozen good righthanders in this year's prep class. While most of the others have faded, at least a bit, Bailey has surged to the top of the list.

He was brilliant from the season's first outing. He grabbed the reins in March, when he took on Weimar High's Ken Kasparek and struck out 10 over four perfect innings, touching 94 mph. From there, he dug in the spurs and galloped to the top of draft boards with a fearless approach and an advanced assortment of pitches.

"Absolutely," a scouting director said when asked if Bailey had surpassed Nick Adenhart, who was the top prep pitching prospect coming into the season. "I think he's got a better body, the ball comes out of his hand easier, he has more projection to him, he throws harder and has a sharper breaking ball.

"He's the epitome of a pure projection pitcher. He has plus stuff with a good breaking ball, and he even has a little change-piece now. And it comes out of his hand really easy."

Bailey did not allow an earned run until his eighth outing and wrapped up the regular season 10-0, 0.23 with two saves. He allowed two earned runs, striking out 144 and walking seven in 61 innings. He threw a five-inning no-hitter with 13 strikeouts in a mercy-rule 10-0 win over Hardin-Jefferson High in the first round of the playoffs.

Scouts said Bailey will add velocity as he fills out his spindly, 6-foot-4, 185-pound frame. He's pitched at 93 mph this season with plus command of all three of his pitches, including an 81-83 mph curveball with 11-to-5 break.

"He's always been able to have more velocity than the average pitcher out there, so everyone knew that he had some arm strength," an area scout said. "But to develop the secondary pitches that he has is a credit to how hard he's worked.

"It doesn't look like he's throwing that hard, but you pull out the gun and he's 92, 93, 94 and it's so easy and smooth."

Signature Of His Own
Easy and smooth are not often adjectives used to describe the big flamethrowers the state has produced so many of. The first image of Roger Clemens to pop into your head doesn't often incorporate anything resembling mellow. Even Texas high school product Josh Beckett has taken a liking to a rugged goatee and is known for his signature ripping of his right leg through the air after releasing a pitch.

But Bailey has produced similar results at the high school level with a smooth and fluid motion. His delivery has perfect tempo, and though his body is still awkward, his mechanics look comfortable and aligned, never forced or deliberate.

Still, his delivery and stuff draw comparisons to other pitchers the state has produced. And in an era when high school righthanders are picked apart by scouts looking for a reason not to spend an early-round selection and millions of dollars, Bailey stands up to the scrutiny.

"There's always going to be some risk involved with any pitcher you take," a scouting director said. "But there's going to be some people taking chances on this kind of arm. It's one of those rare ones that doesn't come along often.

"If you look at the state of Texas, two recent ones that have gone out of the state in the first five picks have had a little success: Beckett and (Kerry) Wood."

Bailey has a scholarship to stay in state at Texas, but as a likely top 10 pick in the draft, he's not likely to make it to Austin except as a visitor. He doesn't seem any more anxious about what lies ahead than he is about the collection of mud on his truck's tailgate.

"It's a tough position to be in, but at the same time it's really not," he says in the matter-of-fact fashion that epitomizes his humble persona. "If I was lucky enough to be taken in the first five picks, who would not go pro? If you talk to anyone who goes that high and says they're going to college, they're lying.

"It makes sense. If you go to college, it's not to pursue a career, it's to get better and go higher in the draft. If you go in the first five picks, you can't do any better than that. You have to take that advantage when it's there. You don't just pass up that kind of money."

So until the draft, Bailey will continue to savor the long summer evenings that allow him a little extra daylight for hunting. And La Grange will savor its easygoing, hard-throwing prospect for a little bit longer, before giving him over to the rest of the country.

BBA on BJ Szymanski-

Szymanski has been one of the biggest revelations in this year's draft class. After spending his freshman year as a starting wide receiver on the Princeton football team, Szymanski took part in a Reds tryout camp and was urged by scouts to give baseball a shot. The 6-foot-5, 215-pound center fielder was an instant hit, batting .330 and earning second team all-Ivy League recognition as a sophomore. He rocketed up the draft charts this spring after he hit a mammoth homer off Old Dominion righthander Justin Verlander in front of about 100 scouts in his first game of the 2004 season. He moved up to first team all-Ivy after batting .378-6-48 in the regular season and leading the Tigers in most offensive categories. Szymanski is a gifted, five-tool athlete with a long-limbed body. He has been clocked in the 60-yard dash at 6.45 seconds and shows loose, graceful actions in the outfield with above-average arm strength. At the plate, he has an upright, slightly open stance and a smooth swing. He's a switch-hitter whose swing is almost a mirror image from both sides of the plate, and he has above-average power potential. Szymanski's swing can get long at times, and he could stand to be more patient at the plate

BBA on Craig Tatum-

Scouting Report: Highly regarded as a pitcher coming out of high school, Tatum has developed into one of the better defensive catchers in college baseball. His arm strength rates 65 on the 20-80 scale, and he consistently delivers the ball to second base in 1.85-1.92 seconds. He's become a sound receiver as a redshirt sophomore, and has gained strength offensively and developed some of his raw power. He still struggles to make consistent contact and has worn down from his catching load. While he has a strong body, he often skips infield and bullpen sessions to stay fresh for games, leading some to question his durability.

BBA on Rafael Gonzalez-

Scouting Report: Gonzalez is a wild card in this year's draft. He attended George Washington High in the Bronx before dropping out and briefly moving to the Dominican Republic last year. After watching him in a tryout, the Yankees signed him for $200,000, but the commissioner's office voided the contract after discovering Gonzalez was an American citizen and the Major League Scouting Bureau had reports on him. Gonzalez returned to George Washington for his senior year, but was declared ineligible. He played on a scout team this spring, pitching every Sunday, while working out for clubs on the side. Gonzalez is a soft-bodied player with a good delivery and easy arm action. He was inconsistent this spring, creating a split camp in the scouting community on his potential. In some outings he was in the 93-95 mph range with a power curve and above-average changeup, while in others he was in the high 80s with a fringy breaking ball.

TOB on Paul Janish-

COMMENT: MEDIUM FRAME. SLOPED SHOULDERS. LEAN, SLENDER OVERALL BUILD. LONG ARMS. UPRIGHT, OPEN STANCE. FLAT BAT. LONG, SWEEP STROKE W/ LIFT. PLUS ARM STRENGTH W/ GOOD ON-LINE CARRY. FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND INF ACTIONS. SOFT, SURE HANDS. EXCELLENT INF INSTINCTS. MAKES ALL THE PLAYS. SOLID DEFENSIVE SKILLS W/ QUESTIONABLE BAT POTENTIAL. BAT WILL DETERMINE LEVEL OF PLAY.

TOB on Lonny Roa-

COMMENT: LARGE FRAME. SOLID, DURABLE BUILD. STRONG FROM TOP DOWN. MUSCULAR CHEST. STRENGTH IN LEGS. HIGH REAR. BIG, STRONG HANDS. WIDE, CLOSED STANCE. SETS UP DEEP TO HIT. SHORT STRIDE. SLIGHT UPPERCUT SWING W/PWR TO HIT BALL OVER THE FENCE. AGGRESSIVE BAT, WANTS TO HIT. BALL JUMPS OFF BAT. ADEQUATE RECEIVER. BLOCKS BALL IN DIRT. COURAGE ON PLAYS AT PLATE. LEADERSHIP QUALITIES. EXPERIENCE AT 1B & OF.

TOB on Phillippe Alexan Vallequette-

COMMENT: MEDIUM-LARGE FRAME. SLENDER, ATHLETIC BUILD. SLOPED SHOULDERS. HIGH WAIST. FLAT CHEST. LONG ARMS, LEGS. DEFINED THIGHS. ROOM FOR ADDED DEVELOPMENT. SIMILAR TO JARROD WASHBURN. NO WINDUP DELIVERY, 3/4 RELEASE. LOOSE, FLUID ARM. EXCELLENT ACTION. BALL JUMPS FROM HAND. FB LATE TAIL & SINK, MOST 91 EARLY. 3/4 ROTATION CB, OCCAISIONAL LATE BITE. STRAIGHT CHANGEUP TAILS, KEEPS ARM SPEED. GOOD EXTENTION OVER FRONT SIDE. PROJECTABLE BODY. LHP W/ QUICK, LIVE ARM. GOOD DELIVERY. WILL HAVE 3 QUALITY PITCHES. MATURITY & EXPERIENCE WILL HELP PITCHABILITY. FUTURE LHS AT MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL.

TOB on Gregory Goetz-

COMMENT: EXTRA-TALL FRAME. LEAN, WIRY BUILD. RANGY. SLIGHT HIGH WAISTED. NEAR PHYSICAL MATURE. ADDED 15 LBS SINCE H.S. ANGULAR UPPER BODY. TRIM AT WAIST. THIN ARMS. TAPERED LEGS. SIMILAR TO SHAWN ESTES. NO WINDUP, HIGH 3/4 SLIGHT ACROSS BODY DELIVERY. SHORT CIRCLE TAKEBACK. LOOSE, QUICK ARM. GOOD DOWN PLANE. BIG DOWN 3/4 CB W/LOOSE ROTATION. MIXES CIRCLE CHANGE, IMPROVED. FIELDS POSITION ADEQUATE. LHP W/QUICK ARM.

TOB on Trevor Lawhorn

COMMENT: MEDIUM FRAME, WELL-PROPORTIONED. SOMEWHAT SLENDER. RECENT MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT, FAIR WIRY STRENGTH. SIMILAR TO STEVE FINLEY. SQUARE, BIT NARROW, TOED IN. BAT AWAY AT MID BODY, HANDS LOW. BAT HEAD COCKED OME TOWARDS PITCHER. GENERATES BAT SPEED & FLUID STROKE AFTER CORRECTING POOR SET UP POSITION. AGGRESSIVE CUTS. ENOUGH CONTACT. LIFT IN BAT. FAIR RUNNER. THROW CARRY, ACCURATE. ADEQUATE ANGLES, READS BATTED BALL.

TOB on Terrell Young

TERRELL YOUNG GRENADA HS RHP R/R 6'3" 175 1985-08-07 HS
COMMENT: LONG, LEAN, ATHLETIC FRAME. WELL PROPORTIONED ARMS & LEGS. EXCELLENT PITCHERS BUILD. ROOM TO GET BIGGER & STRONGER. NO WINDUP DELIVERY. LIGHTNING QUICK ARM, BALL JUMPS OUT OF HAND. THROWS EASY. FB EXPLODES IN ZONE W/RIDING, SINKING LIFE. CB HAS TIGHT, QUICK BREAK. 3/4 PLANE SLIDER, PROPER ROTATION. OUTSTANDING YOUNG PITCHING PROSPECT W/ ENOUGH UPSIDE TO HAVE DOMINANT STUFF AT ML LEVEL. GOOD MOUND PRESENCE. A COMPETITOR.

TOB on Jason Urdiquez

JASON URQUIDEZ ARIZONA ST U RHP R/R 6'1" 165 1982-09-12 4YR
COMMENT: MEDIUM-LARGE FRAME. THIN, WIRY STRONG BUILD. TRIM WAIST. THIN LEGS. NO WIND UP. TALL, COMPACT DELIVERY. DEEP DROP IN BACK. TAPS TOE TWICE IN STRIDE, SIMILAR TO ROBB NEN. GOOD EXTENTION OUT FRONT. AVG ARM SPEED THROUGH 3/4 SLOT. FB MOST 87-88 W/ RUN & SINK, LATE AT TIMES FROM LOW 3/4 SLOT. DECEPTIVE STRAIGHT CHANGE UP. FB ARM SPEED W/ SINK LIFE. FEEL FOR HARD, SLURVE-TYPE SLIDER. 3/4 TILT, OCCAISIONAL LATE BITE. GAMER TYPE, KNOWS HOW TO WIN. AROUND THE PLATE, MIXES PITCHES WELL MUST HIT SPOTS TO BE EFFECTIVE.

TOB on Jared Sanders

COMMENT: TALL FRAME. SUPPLE, ATHLETIC BUILD. GOOD OVERALL STRENGTH. SLIGHTLY HIGH WAISTED. WELL DEVELOPED UPPER BODY. THICK THROUGH ROUNDED SHOULDERS. TRIM AT WAIST. BUILT LKE RUSS ORTIZ. NO WIND UP, 3/4, ACROSS BODY DELIVERY. DECEPTIVE SHOULDER TUCK, TURN. LOOSE, EASY ARM. HIDES BALL WELL THROUGH PIVOT. MAINTAINS MAJOR LEAGUE FB W/TAIL LIFE ON SHORT RELIEF STINT. WILL RUN BALL UP & IN TO RHH. TALL, DOWN 3/4 SLURVE FOR CB. INFREQUENT CIRCLE CHANGE UP OCCAISIONALLY SINKS. WELL BUILT RHP W/QUALITY ARM. UNDERVALUED STOCK. WILL BE BETTER IN PRO ENVIRONMENT.

WVRed
06-07-2004, 02:08 PM
Guys, please keep this on the draft thread.:)

Reds select BJ Syzmanski with the 48th pick. Im looking up info right now.

MasonBuzz3
06-07-2004, 02:10 PM
BJ Syzmanski
http://teamonebaseball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=3&pr_key=28283

RBA
06-07-2004, 02:12 PM
BJ Syzmanski
http://teamonebaseball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=3&pr_key=28283

"Potential five-tool outfielder" :eek:

The more the Reds change, the more they stay the same. :D

WVRed
06-07-2004, 02:40 PM
Third round selection-

C-Craig Tatum(Mississippi St)

Hey, where did the sticky go? :evil:

WVRed
06-07-2004, 03:03 PM
Fourth Round pick-
SP-Rafael Gonzalez(HS)

LvJ
06-07-2004, 03:14 PM
Hey, looking good so far. :thumbup:

BTW: On Homer: Brewerfan.net Rank: #1 High School, #5 overall

IslandRed
06-07-2004, 03:21 PM
Thought I heard the Reds took this guy in Round 5:



PAUL JANISH, RICE U, SS, R/R, 6'2" 180

COMMENT: MEDIUM FRAME. SLOPED SHOULDERS. LEAN, SLENDER OVERALL BUILD. LONG ARMS. UPRIGHT, OPEN STANCE. FLAT BAT. LONG, SWEEP STROKE W/ LIFT. PLUS ARM STRENGTH W/ GOOD ON-LINE CARRY. FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND INF ACTIONS. SOFT, SURE HANDS. EXCELLENT INF INSTINCTS. MAKES ALL THE PLAYS. SOLID DEFENSIVE SKILLS W/ QUESTIONABLE BAT POTENTIAL. BAT WILL DETERMINE LEVEL OF PLAY.

IslandRed
06-07-2004, 03:45 PM
Round 6: Lonny Roa, C, Puerto Rico Baseball Academy.



LONNY ROA, PUERTO RICO BB ACADEMY HS, C, R/R, 6'3" 215, 1985-11-28

COMMENT: LARGE FRAME. SOLID, DURABLE BUILD. STRONG FROM TOP DOWN. MUSCULAR CHEST. STRENGTH IN LEGS. HIGH REAR. BIG, STRONG HANDS. WIDE, CLOSED STANCE. SETS UP DEEP TO HIT. SHORT STRIDE. SLIGHT UPPERCUT SWING W/PWR TO HIT BALL OVER THE FENCE. AGGRESSIVE BAT, WANTS TO HIT. BALL JUMPS OFF BAT. ADEQUATE RECEIVER. BLOCKS BALL IN DIRT. COURAGE ON PLAYS AT PLATE. LEADERSHIP QUALITIES. EXPERIENCE AT 1B & OF.

IslandRed
06-07-2004, 03:58 PM
Round 7:


PHILIPPE-ALEXAN VALIQUETTE, EDOUARD MONTPETIT HS, LHP, L/L, 6'0" 175, 1987-02-14

COMMENT: MEDIUM-LARGE FRAME. SLENDER, ATHLETIC BUILD. SLOPED SHOULDERS. HIGH WAIST. FLAT CHEST. LONG ARMS, LEGS. DEFINED THIGHS. ROOM FOR ADDED DEVELOPMENT. SIMILAR TO JARROD WASHBURN. NO WINDUP DELIVERY, 3/4 RELEASE. LOOSE, FLUID ARM. EXCELLENT ACTION. BALL JUMPS FROM HAND. FB LATE TAIL & SINK, MOST 91 EARLY. 3/4 ROTATION CB, OCCAISIONAL LATE BITE. STRAIGHT CHANGEUP TAILS, KEEPS ARM SPEED. GOOD EXTENTION OVER FRONT SIDE. PROJECTABLE BODY. LHP W/ QUICK, LIVE ARM. GOOD DELIVERY. WILL HAVE 3 QUALITY PITCHES. MATURITY & EXPERIENCE WILL HELP PITCHABILITY. FUTURE LHS AT MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL.

IslandRed
06-07-2004, 04:17 PM
Round 8:


GREGORY GOETZ, BELLEVUE CC, LHP, L/L, 6'4" 195, 1984-01-25

COMMENT: EXTRA-TALL FRAME. LEAN, WIRY BUILD. RANGY. SLIGHT HIGH WAISTED. NEAR PHYSICAL MATURE. ADDED 15 LBS SINCE H.S. ANGULAR UPPER BODY. TRIM AT WAIST. THIN ARMS. TAPERED LEGS. SIMILAR TO SHAWN ESTES. NO WINDUP, HIGH 3/4 SLIGHT ACROSS BODY DELIVERY. SHORT CIRCLE TAKEBACK. LOOSE, QUICK ARM. GOOD DOWN PLANE. BIG DOWN 3/4 CB W/LOOSE ROTATION. MIXES CIRCLE CHANGE, IMPROVED. FIELDS POSITION ADEQUATE. LHP W/QUICK ARM.

IslandRed
06-07-2004, 04:25 PM
Round 9, announced as Trevor Lawhorn, and I could have sworn they announced him as a second baseman:


DARRYL LAWHORN, EAST CAROLINA U, RF, L/R, 6'2" 180, 1982-12-18

COMMENT: MEDIUM FRAME, WELL-PROPORTIONED. SOMEWHAT SLENDER. RECENT MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT, FAIR WIRY STRENGTH. SIMILAR TO STEVE FINLEY. SQUARE, BIT NARROW, TOED IN. BAT AWAY AT MID BODY, HANDS LOW. BAT HEAD COCKED OME TOWARDS PITCHER. GENERATES BAT SPEED & FLUID STROKE AFTER CORRECTING POOR SET UP POSITION. AGGRESSIVE CUTS. ENOUGH CONTACT. LIFT IN BAT. FAIR RUNNER. THROW CARRY, ACCURATE. ADEQUATE ANGLES, READS BATTED BALL.

IslandRed
06-07-2004, 04:34 PM
Chuckle... just now scrolled down WVRed's initial message and saw where he's been updating. Could have saved myself some work. :MandJ:

MasonBuzz3
06-07-2004, 04:39 PM
10th round
TERRELL YOUNG GRENADA HS RHP R/R 6'3" 175 1985-08-07 HS
COMMENT: LONG, LEAN, ATHLETIC FRAME. WELL PROPORTIONED ARMS & LEGS. EXCELLENT PITCHERS BUILD. ROOM TO GET BIGGER & STRONGER. NO WINDUP DELIVERY. LIGHTNING QUICK ARM, BALL JUMPS OUT OF HAND. THROWS EASY. FB EXPLODES IN ZONE W/RIDING, SINKING LIFE. CB HAS TIGHT, QUICK BREAK. 3/4 PLANE SLIDER, PROPER ROTATION. OUTSTANDING YOUNG PITCHING PROSPECT W/ ENOUGH UPSIDE TO HAVE DOMINANT STUFF AT ML LEVEL. GOOD MOUND PRESENCE. A COMPETITOR.

UKFlounder
06-07-2004, 04:41 PM
Chuckle... just now scrolled down WVRed's initial message and saw where he's been updating. Could have saved myself some work. :MandJ:

But the effort is MUCH appreciated - I hadn't looked back at the first post either, so thank you for doing this.

This thread is very handy, as I don't have time to read through the bigger draft thread right now.

Good job to you & WVRed! :thumbup:

MasonBuzz3
06-07-2004, 05:00 PM
11th Round
JASON URQUIDEZ ARIZONA ST U RHP R/R 6'1" 165 1982-09-12 4YR
COMMENT: MEDIUM-LARGE FRAME. THIN, WIRY STRONG BUILD. TRIM WAIST. THIN LEGS. NO WIND UP. TALL, COMPACT DELIVERY. DEEP DROP IN BACK. TAPS TOE TWICE IN STRIDE, SIMILAR TO ROBB NEN. GOOD EXTENTION OUT FRONT. AVG ARM SPEED THROUGH 3/4 SLOT. FB MOST 87-88 W/ RUN & SINK, LATE AT TIMES FROM LOW 3/4 SLOT. DECEPTIVE STRAIGHT CHANGE UP. FB ARM SPEED W/ SINK LIFE. FEEL FOR HARD, SLURVE-TYPE SLIDER. 3/4 TILT, OCCAISIONAL LATE BITE. GAMER TYPE, KNOWS HOW TO WIN. AROUND THE PLATE, MIXES PITCHES WELL MUST HIT SPOTS TO BE EFFECTIVE.

LexingtonRedsFan
06-07-2004, 06:02 PM
Whats up with all the guys with no wind-ups??? Isnt that the same issue that Graves had when he tried to become a starter?? Does this mean that they are all relievers??

ochre
06-07-2004, 06:04 PM
I think in the scouting context it means that they don't take their hands over their heads as part of their delivery.

LexingtonRedsFan
06-07-2004, 06:10 PM
I think in the scouting context it means that they don't take their hands over their heads as part of their delivery.

Thanks for the explanation, but that leads me to another question??? Is that a bad thing or a good thing??? I can honestly say, I have never really thought about whether or not a pitcher brings his hands above his head and any pitfalls/advantages it may have??

ochre
06-07-2004, 06:14 PM
Not sure, and I could very well be wrong with my explaination :), but it was the only thing that made sense in the quantities I was seeing. :)

gm
06-07-2004, 06:41 PM
Whats up with all the guys with no wind-ups??? Isnt that the same issue that Graves had when he tried to become a starter?? Does this mean that they are all relievers??


"no wind-up" worked pretty well for Jim Kaat, back in the day

Bowden's Ghost
06-07-2004, 08:10 PM
We took a five-tool outfielder with our second pick! Somewhere, Jim Bowden is laughing.

kheidg-
06-07-2004, 08:30 PM
Overall it looks like a pretty decent draft. I like the looks of Homer Bailey. Everybody seemed pretty high on him, some places projecting him a top 5 pick. Rotoworld says that he has as much upside as anybody in the draft.
BJ Szymanski - I had the impression that he was more of a power guy than speed but his stats say otherwise at Princeton. Only 2 HR, but 6 triples. 13 SB in 15 tries. Not bad.
Janish looks like a good 5th round pick. His numbers make him look like a clutch hitter, unless he batted with runners on base a lot. 2 year stats look like he is a potential .300 hitter. Had 44 RBI this year.
Drew Anderson at 13 also looks good for middle infielder. Had a good year - batting .308 with 12 HR and an .875 OPS.
There has to be something that I'm missing with Jared Sanders. But I guess he was drafted by the BlueJays out of high school so maybe he has some upside but has just sucked it up. 7.67 ERA and 13.89 hits per game isn't good.

WVRed
06-07-2004, 11:16 PM
Some more info from Baseball America-

5.SS-Paul Janish-

Scouting Report: Janish has lived up to his reputation as a standout defender at shortstop this spring, making just three errors in his 52 games while continuing to show a strong arm, soft hands and solid range. After batting just .296 with six homers in his first two seasons at Rice, then .105 with wood bats for Team USA last summer, Janish improved significantly at the plate. He was hitting .358 with nine homers in late May, doing a better job of using the whole field. He still could use more strength and a shorter stroke. There are few true shortstops available in the draft, so he could go as high as the third round to a team that believe he'll hit enough. If he returns to Ricečand Owls juniors are often difficult to signčhe could get a chance to pitch in 2005. His fastball tops out at 93 mph, and his slurve and changeup are promising.

6.C-Lonny Roa-

Scouting Report: At 6-foot-3 and 215 pounds, Roa is stronger and more physically mature than the rest of the island's top prospects. He was the best performer at Puerto Rico's annual Excellence Games in early May, demonstrating power potential with a quick, short, compact swing. Scouts aren't sure whether he'll remain behind the plate because his feet are slow and he's not a polished receiver. His arm strength is adequate. Roa, who moved to Puerto Rico from the Dominican Republic about five years ago, is eager to sign and made himself a possible fourth- or fifth-round pick off his showing in predraft workouts.

10.RHP-Terrell Young-

Scouting Report: One of the draft's more intriguing cases, Young has scouts befuddled. He earned a high grade from the Major League Scouting Bureau based on his pure stuff, which can be filthy. He has the state's best arm, loose and quick from a sound delivery. His fastball can sit in the 90-94 range, and at times he spins a plus breaking ball. His personal history causes the most doubts. He's considered a good bet to sign because he has a 3-year-old son and is not a strong student--he's a Meridian CC signee). He'll need an organization willing to monitor him closely and shepherd him through the minor leagues to reach his considerable ceiling.

princeton
06-08-2004, 07:45 AM
After batting just .296 with six homers in his first two seasons at Rice, then .105 with wood bats for Team USA last summer, Janish improved significantly at the plate. [/B]

A dollar five???

A dollar five.

puca
06-08-2004, 08:13 AM
.105

Agreed, not very impressive. How many ABs? Could have been 2-19. Could just be a small sample size.

I must admit I don't have a good feeling about the folks the Reds have running the draft, so consequently I don't have a good feeling about the draft. There probably would have been doubts in my mind no matter who they drafted, however to me this draft looks high-risk. Only time will tell. The upside is pretty good, but the odds are a little long for my liking.

princeton
06-08-2004, 08:29 AM
I miss Leland Maddux. His apparent draft philosophy better fit the Reds' needs, and I think that it was a huge mistake to drop him for Fred Claire's favorite man

in the long run Kearns/Dunn won't be Reds

in the long run we'll all be dead

GriffeyFan
06-08-2004, 11:00 AM
Has anyone seen draft grades for day one yet?

NC Reds
06-08-2004, 11:04 AM
The fact that Janish made team USA is a major positive, but that average is scary.

CougarQuest
06-08-2004, 01:50 PM
Is it .105 because of the wood bat or is it .105 because it is a small sample size or is it .105 because of better competition?

jmcclain19
06-08-2004, 02:08 PM
In the Regionals this weekend.

Janish started all five games, he went

4-20, with 3K, 2BB, 3R, 2RBI, 1E and 1CS

WVRed
06-08-2004, 02:09 PM
btw, im going to try and get other info up such as hitting/throwing, height, weight, etc. Right now im following BBA to get the draft tracking info.

RedLegsToday
06-08-2004, 02:27 PM
FWIW,

Craig Burley at the Batters Box did a comprehensive study of all college hitters and listed all hitters, adjusting for strength of schedule and park factors. The Reds college hitters were rated as follows(note, this listed included all college hitters, not just draft eligibles, and doesn't adjust for position):

2.OF-BJ Szymanski(Princeton) 153rd
3.C-Craig Tatum(Mississippi St) 323rd
5.SS-Paul Janish(Rice University) 92nd
9.2B-Trevor Lawhorn(East Carolina) 104th
12.OF-Cody Strait(Evansville U) 137th
13.IF-Drew Anderson(Ohio St) 443rd
15.3B-JD Reninger(Texas) 702nd

looks to me like Janish should be left at SS for now.

RedLegsToday
06-08-2004, 02:37 PM
BTW, Burley lists Jason Urquidez as the 23rd best college pitcher this season. Maybe a steal for the Reds in the 11th round.

gm
06-08-2004, 03:17 PM
BTW, Burley lists Jason Urquidez as the 23rd best college pitcher this season. Maybe a steal for the Reds in the 11th round.

That would be nice (hehehe)

GriffeyFan
06-08-2004, 03:23 PM
Tatum (from his hometown paper):
Tatum, meanwhile, provided a steady presence behind the plate while batting .325 with 13 homers and 60 RBIs for Mississippi State. The Cincinnati Reds took Tatum in the third round, and it's a good bet the former Hattiesburg High School star will soon sign a professional contract.

"I already got a Reds hat," Tatum said. "The Reds told me they have a desperate need for a catcher. It's been fun. I'm just glad I was able to share the experience with my parents and my girlfriend. In high school, I thought I'd be drafted, and it never happened."

gm
06-08-2004, 03:32 PM
Tatum (from his hometown paper):
Tatum, meanwhile, provided a steady presence behind the plate while batting .325 with 13 homers and 60 RBIs for Mississippi State. The Cincinnati Reds took Tatum in the third round, and it's a good bet the former Hattiesburg High School star will soon sign a professional contract.

"I already got a Reds hat," Tatum said. "The Reds told me they have a desperate need for a catcher. It's been fun. I'm just glad I was able to share the experience with my parents and my girlfriend. In high school, I thought I'd be drafted, and it never happened."

Tatum was my runner-up for "first to show" but I just 'had' to choose a pitcher after princeton snapped up a position player for the first time ever (Symantics)

Red Leader
06-08-2004, 06:55 PM
Rd

19 ANDREW JENSON SAN DIEGO ST U LHP L/L 6'2" 200 1981-12-31 4YR
20 ROBERT COELLO OKALOOSA WALTON CC C R/R 6'4" 215 1984-11-23 JR
21 RAYMOND HONEY LAFAYETTE COUNTY HS SS R/R 6'1" 175 1985-12-24 HS
22 MATTHEW LEVERING REGIS U 3B R/R 0'60" 195 1981-12-18 4YR
23 PEDRO HAWKINS GREEN RIVER CC CF R/R 5'10" 195 1983-11-30 JR
24 ADAM GILLIHAN CROWDER COL RHP R/R 6'3" 200 1983-09-28 JR
25 ROBERT NICKOLS SABINO HS LHP L/L 6'5" 215 1986-03-04 HS
26 JOHNNY DILLARD SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA ST RHP R/R 6'1" 160 1981-01-14 4YR
27 JAMES LANGHAM GEORGIA COL RF R/R 0'0" 0 1982-09-03 4YR
28 DONNIE ECKER LOS ALTOS HS CF L/R 6'4" 190 1986-03-09 HS
29 TERRANCE SPARKS PRAIRIE VIEW A&M U LHP L/L 0'60" 170 1983-02-19 4YR
30 DAVID GRIFFIN FRESNO ST U LHP L/L 0'60" 180 1981-08-16 4YR
31 JACOB ARRIETA PLANO EAST SR HS RHP R/R 6'3" 210 1986-03-06 HS
32 ROBERT WACHMAN VALDOSTA ST U RHP R/R 0'0" 0 1982-04-10 4YR
33 DYLAN MOSELEY ARKANSAS HS RHP R/R 6'4" 185 1986-06-18 HS
34 DREW PHILLIPS NORTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA ST SS R/R 6'2" 195 1981-04-12 4YR
35 ROBERT PALENCIA MONSIGNOR EDWARD PACE HS RHP R/R 6'1" 190 1986-01-09 HS
36 TODD JOHNSON CENTRAL MICHIGAN U LHP L/L 0'63" 210 1980-11-29 4YR
37 ANDREW WELLS TULSA UNION HS LF R/R 6'2" 205 1985-08-08 HS
38 ROBERT ORTON FLORIDA ATLANTIC U C R/R 6'1" 210 1982-05-24 4YR
39 MARIO COLLETTO SIMI VALLEY HS 1B L/L 6'3" 165 1986-03-20 HS
40 BRAD MORENKO OAKLAND U RHP R/R 6'4" 215 1981-08-15 4YR
41 SCOTT MUELLER GREENWAY HS RHP R/R 6'3" 175 1986-06-09 HS
42 BEN PRICE TERRA LINDA HS SS S/R 0'63" 185 1986-05-20 HS
43 BENJAMIN PARKER HUSTON-TILLOTSON COLLEGE RHP R/R 6'3" 220 1980-08-01 4YR
44 JACOB LONG JOHANSEN HS C R/R 6'1" 180 1986-04-17 HS
45 BRANDON ROBERTS U MICHIGAN RF L/R 0'64" 215 1981-08-08 4YR
46 JUSTIN GLOVER WESTSIDE HS 1B R/R 6'1" 220 1985-10-31 HS
47 BRADLEY JARRELL DENHAM SPRINGS HS 1B R/R 0'0" 0 1985-10-18 HS
48 BRADLEY KEY U SOUTH CAROLINA 3B R/R 6'0" 185 1983-03-14 4YR
49 TYLER CALES JAMES MADISON HS RHP R/R 6'4" 195 1986-02-20 HS
50 JUAN BUCK EAST HS LF R/R 6'3" 214 1985-01-26 HS

WVRed
06-08-2004, 07:23 PM
already taken care of:)

CougarQuest
06-08-2004, 09:40 PM
Final tally of the 50 rounds:
23 pitchers, 8 of them left handers.
8 - RHP out of high school
7 - RHP out of college
2 - LHP out of high school
6 - LHP out of college

C - 3 from college, 1 from baseball academy, 1 from high school
1 - 3 out of high school
2 - 2 out of college
SS - 2 out of college, 3 out of high school
3 - 3 out of college
OF - 6 out of college, 3 out of high school

bellhead
06-08-2004, 09:41 PM
Just sign all of them please!!!!

knuckler
06-09-2004, 08:53 AM
Tatum (from his hometown paper):
"I already got a Reds hat," Tatum said. "The Reds told me they have a desperate need for a catcher."

Sounds like somebody isn't as sold on Miguel Perez as we've been hearing...

Doc. Scott
06-09-2004, 10:37 AM
The Reds would be lucky if they signed half their draft picks. Last year they didn't even hit that many. If they sign thirty or more, that's a great job.

Aronchis
06-09-2004, 10:50 AM
Sounds like somebody isn't as sold on Miguel Perez as we've been hearing...

or Larue

gm
06-09-2004, 11:02 AM
or Larue

Or Miller or Sardinha

You've gotta figure Jason's a short-timer. He's passed his peak of pay-versus-production for the Cincy budget and is rapidly descending down the far side of the hill.

Colorado Red
06-09-2004, 11:12 AM
Thanks to everyone for the great coverage we had on the MLB draft.


Pick Team Player School Position B/T Ht Wt DOB Class Video
7 DAVID BAILEY LA GRANGE HS RHP R/R 6'4" 185 1986-05-03 HS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: MEDIUM-LONG FRAME. GOOD BODY. LONG, SLENDER, BUILD. HIGH WAISTED. LONG ARMS. LARGE HANDS. LOOSE, EFFORTLESS ARM. COMFORT ZONE 93-95 W/ LATE SINK. BALL EXPLODES OUT OF HAND. 11/5 CB W/ TIGHT ROTATION, SHARP K ZONE BITE WHEN OUT FRONT. EXCELLENT MOUND PRESENCE. YOUNG RHP W/ EXTREMELY HIGH CEILING. EFFORTLESS POWER ARM W/ PLUS PITCHABILITY.

48 BRANDON SZYMANSKI PRINCETON U CF S/R 6'5" 210 1982-10-01 4YR 56K | 350K
COMMENT: LONG LIMBED. RACE HORSE TYPE BODY. THIN ANKLES. LOOSE, LIVE, GRACEFUL ACTIONS. FULLY MATURED. RESEMBLES JON OLERUD. STRAIGHT UP, SLIGHTLY OPEN STANCE W/ NARROW SPREAD. HARD, LINE DRIVE CONTACT TO ALL FIELDS. TOUGH OUT. GAP PWR. BALL JUMPS. GOOD READS ON FLY BALLS. GLIDES TO BALL. PLAYABLE ARM WILL IMPROVE. FLIES 1ST TO 3RD. FEARLESS. CAN CARRY TEAM. HAS THE MAKINGS OF A 5-TOOL PLYR.

78 CRAIG TATUM MISSISSIPPI ST U C R/R 6'1" 215 1983-03-18 4YR 56K | 350K
COMMENT: LARGE FRAME. STRONG, DURABLE BODY. BIG HANDS & FEET. PROPORTIONED ARMS & LEGS. SIMILAR TO FORMER ML RANDY HUNDLEY. WIDE, STRAIGHT AWAY STANCE. STRENGTH IN SWING TO DRIVE BALL. OCCAISIONAL PWR TO LEFT FIELD. GOOD EXTENTION ON CONTACT. PLUS ARM. GOOD RECEIVING SKILLS. BLOCKS, SHIFTS & CATCHES BALL EASY. GOOD LOOKING CATCHING PROSPECT. TOOLS TO CATCH IN THE BIG LEAGUES.

108 RAFAEL GONZALEZ NO SCHOOL RHP R/R 6'3" 225 1986-03-21 NS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: FORMER LEAN PITCHERS BODY NOW HEAVY & SOFT. WIDE, ROUNDED SHOULDERS. ADDED WEIGHT THROUGH MIDDLE, HIPS & THIGHS, CORRECTABLE W/ HARD WORK. HIGH WINDUP, LOW ELBOW, 3/4 SLOT, LANDS TO 1B LINE. LOOSE ARM, NEAR COMPACT IN BACK, FINE OUT FRONT. MOST FB 90-91. KNUCKLE-CB, FLASHED 1 FAIR, 3/4 ROTATION. PLAYER STATES KNUCKLE-CB GRIP CHANGEUP. DEFINITE RAW PWR ARM STRENGTH.

138 PAUL JANISH RICE U SS R/R 6'2" 180 1982-10-12 4YR 56K | 350K
COMMENT: MEDIUM FRAME. SLOPED SHOULDERS. LEAN, SLENDER OVERALL BUILD. LONG ARMS. UPRIGHT, OPEN STANCE. FLAT BAT. LONG, SWEEP STROKE W/ LIFT. PLUS ARM STRENGTH W/ GOOD ON-LINE CARRY. FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND INF ACTIONS. SOFT, SURE HANDS. EXCELLENT INF INSTINCTS. MAKES ALL THE PLAYS. SOLID DEFENSIVE SKILLS W/ QUESTIONABLE BAT POTENTIAL. BAT WILL DETERMINE LEVEL OF PLAY.

168 LONNY ROA PUERTO RICO BB ACADEMY HS C R/R 6'3" 215 1985-11-28 HS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: LARGE FRAME. SOLID, DURABLE BUILD. STRONG FROM TOP DOWN. MUSCULAR CHEST. STRENGTH IN LEGS. HIGH REAR. BIG, STRONG HANDS. WIDE, CLOSED STANCE. SETS UP DEEP TO HIT. SHORT STRIDE. SLIGHT UPPERCUT SWING W/PWR TO HIT BALL OVER THE FENCE. AGGRESSIVE BAT, WANTS TO HIT. BALL JUMPS OFF BAT. ADEQUATE RECEIVER. BLOCKS BALL IN DIRT. COURAGE ON PLAYS AT PLATE. LEADERSHIP QUALITIES. EXPERIENCE AT 1B & OF.

198 PHILIPPE-ALEXAN VALIQUETTE EDOUARD MONTPETIT HS LHP L/L 6'0" 175 1987-02-14 HS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: MEDIUM-LARGE FRAME. SLENDER, ATHLETIC BUILD. SLOPED SHOULDERS. HIGH WAIST. FLAT CHEST. LONG ARMS, LEGS. DEFINED THIGHS. ROOM FOR ADDED DEVELOPMENT. SIMILAR TO JARROD WASHBURN. NO WINDUP DELIVERY, 3/4 RELEASE. LOOSE, FLUID ARM. EXCELLENT ACTION. BALL JUMPS FROM HAND. FB LATE TAIL & SINK, MOST 91 EARLY. 3/4 ROTATION CB, OCCAISIONAL LATE BITE. STRAIGHT CHANGEUP TAILS, KEEPS ARM SPEED. GOOD EXTENTION OVER FRONT SIDE. PROJECTABLE BODY. LHP W/ QUICK, LIVE ARM. GOOD DELIVERY. WILL HAVE 3 QUALITY PITCHES. MATURITY & EXPERIENCE WILL HELP PITCHABILITY. FUTURE LHS AT MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL.

228 GREGORY GOETZ BELLEVUE CC LHP L/L 6'4" 195 1984-01-25 JR 56K | 350K
COMMENT: EXTRA-TALL FRAME. LEAN, WIRY BUILD. RANGY. SLIGHT HIGH WAISTED. NEAR PHYSICAL MATURE. ADDED 15 LBS SINCE H.S. ANGULAR UPPER BODY. TRIM AT WAIST. THIN ARMS. TAPERED LEGS. SIMILAR TO SHAWN ESTES. NO WINDUP, HIGH 3/4 SLIGHT ACROSS BODY DELIVERY. SHORT CIRCLE TAKEBACK. LOOSE, QUICK ARM. GOOD DOWN PLANE. BIG DOWN 3/4 CB W/LOOSE ROTATION. MIXES CIRCLE CHANGE, IMPROVED. FIELDS POSITION ADEQUATE. LHP W/QUICK ARM.

258 TREVOR LAWHORN * EAST CAROLINA U 2B R/R 6'2" 182 1982-12-18 4YR
COMMENT:

288 TERRELL YOUNG GRENADA HS RHP R/R 6'3" 175 1985-08-07 HS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: LONG, LEAN, ATHLETIC FRAME. WELL PROPORTIONED ARMS & LEGS. EXCELLENT PITCHERS BUILD. ROOM TO GET BIGGER & STRONGER. NO WINDUP DELIVERY. LIGHTNING QUICK ARM, BALL JUMPS OUT OF HAND. THROWS EASY. FB EXPLODES IN ZONE W/RIDING, SINKING LIFE. CB HAS TIGHT, QUICK BREAK. 3/4 PLANE SLIDER, PROPER ROTATION. OUTSTANDING YOUNG PITCHING PROSPECT W/ ENOUGH UPSIDE TO HAVE DOMINANT STUFF AT ML LEVEL. GOOD MOUND PRESENCE. A COMPETITOR.

318 JASON URQUIDEZ ARIZONA ST U RHP R/R 6'1" 165 1982-09-12 4YR 56K | 350K
COMMENT: MEDIUM-LARGE FRAME. THIN, WIRY STRONG BUILD. TRIM WAIST. THIN LEGS. NO WIND UP. TALL, COMPACT DELIVERY. DEEP DROP IN BACK. TAPS TOE TWICE IN STRIDE, SIMILAR TO ROBB NEN. GOOD EXTENTION OUT FRONT. AVG ARM SPEED THROUGH 3/4 SLOT. FB MOST 87-88 W/ RUN & SINK, LATE AT TIMES FROM LOW 3/4 SLOT. DECEPTIVE STRAIGHT CHANGE UP. FB ARM SPEED W/ SINK LIFE. FEEL FOR HARD, SLURVE-TYPE SLIDER. 3/4 TILT, OCCAISIONAL LATE BITE. GAMER TYPE, KNOWS HOW TO WIN. AROUND THE PLATE, MIXES PITCHES WELL MUST HIT SPOTS TO BE EFFECTIVE.

348 WILLIAM STRAIT U EVANSVILLE RF R/R 6'1" 185 1983-05-28 4YR
COMMENT:

378 DREW ANDERSON OHIO ST U 2B S/R 5'9" 170 1983-02-02 4YR
COMMENT:

408 JARED SANDERS OREGON ST U RHP R/R 6'2" 210 1981-11-19 4YR
COMMENT: TALL FRAME. SUPPLE, ATHLETIC BUILD. GOOD OVERALL STRENGTH. SLIGHTLY HIGH WAISTED. WELL DEVELOPED UPPER BODY. THICK THROUGH ROUNDED SHOULDERS. TRIM AT WAIST. BUILT LKE RUSS ORTIZ. NO WIND UP, 3/4, ACROSS BODY DELIVERY. DECEPTIVE SHOULDER TUCK, TURN. LOOSE, EASY ARM. HIDES BALL WELL THROUGH PIVOT. MAINTAINS MAJOR LEAGUE FB W/TAIL LIFE ON SHORT RELIEF STINT. WILL RUN BALL UP & IN TO RHH. TALL, DOWN 3/4 SLURVE FOR CB. INFREQUENT CIRCLE CHANGE UP OCCAISIONALLY SINKS. WELL BUILT RHP W/QUALITY ARM. UNDERVALUED STOCK. WILL BE BETTER IN PRO ENVIRONMENT.

438 JARRETT REININGER U TEXAS 3B R/R 5'10" 190 1982-12-03 4YR
COMMENT:

468 TRAVIS KAATS GRAND CANYON U CF R/R 6'1" 205 1982-04-27 4YR
COMMENT:

498 MILTON LOO MOLOKAI HS SS R/R 0'61" 185 1986-04-02 HS
COMMENT:

528 CHARLES O'NEAL CHIPOLA JC LHP R/L 0'64" 165 1983-09-12 JR
COMMENT:

558 ANDREW JENSON SAN DIEGO ST U LHP L/L 6'2" 200 1981-12-31 4YR
COMMENT:

588 ROBERT COELLO OKALOOSA WALTON CC C R/R 6'4" 215 1984-11-23 JR
COMMENT:

618 RAYMOND HONEY LAFAYETTE COUNTY HS SS R/R 6'1" 175 1985-12-24 HS
COMMENT:

648 MATTHEW LEVERING REGIS U 3B R/R 0'60" 195 1981-12-18 4YR
COMMENT:

678 PEDRO HAWKINS GREEN RIVER CC CF R/R 5'10" 195 1983-11-30 JR
COMMENT:

708 ADAM GILLIHAN CROWDER COL RHP R/R 6'3" 200 1983-09-28 JR
COMMENT: TALL, STRONG, WELL BUILT, ATHLETIC FRAME. WELL PROPORTIONED. BROAD SHOULDERS. STRONG LEGS. IMPRESSIVE PHYSICALLY. FB RIDING LIFE & OCCASIONAL SINK, MOST 86-88. DECENT 3/4 SLIDER. CHANGES ARM SLOT, CREATES BETTER MOVEMENT. ATTACKS HITTERS. COMMAND MUST IMPROVE. CAN'T IGNORE THE ARM & BODY.

738 ROBERT NICKOLS SABINO HS LHP L/L 6'5" 215 1986-03-04 HS
COMMENT:

768 JOHNNY DILLARD SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA ST RHP R/R 6'1" 160 1981-01-14 4YR
COMMENT: MEDIUM FRAME. ANGULAR, LEAN, WIRY, MATURE BUILD. NO WIND UP, 3/4 DELIVERY. LOOSE ARM. FB VELOCITY TOUCHES AVG AT TIMES W/ SINK. CB MOST SLURVE BREAK. CIRCLE CHANGE SHOWS OCCASIONAL SINK. PHYSICALLY MATURE. USABLE QUICKNESS IN ARM, MINOR MECHANICAL FAULTS W/ DELIVERY. FB W/ SINK, SLURVE-TYPE CB. CHANGE UP WILL IMPROVE.

798 JAMES LANGHAM GEORGIA COL RF R/R 0'0" 0 1982-09-03 4YR
COMMENT:

828 DONNIE ECKER LOS ALTOS HS CF L/R 6'4" 190 1986-03-09 HS
COMMENT:

858 TERRANCE SPARKS PRAIRIE VIEW A&M U LHP L/L 0'60" 170 1983-02-19 4YR
COMMENT:

888 DAVID GRIFFIN FRESNO ST U LHP L/L 0'60" 180 1981-08-16 4YR
COMMENT:

Colorado Red
06-09-2004, 11:14 AM
Both of my post were taken from MLB.com.




Pick Team Player School Position B/T Ht Wt DOB Class Video
918 JACOB ARRIETA PLANO EAST SR HS RHP R/R 6'3" 210 1986-03-06 HS
COMMENT:

948 ROBERT WACHMAN VALDOSTA ST U RHP R/R 0'0" 0 1982-04-10 4YR
COMMENT:

978 DYLAN MOSELEY ARKANSAS HS RHP R/R 6'4" 185 1986-06-18 HS
COMMENT: TALL, LONG, LANKY BODY. PROPORTIONED ARMS & LEGS. DEFINED WAIST. LOTS OF ROOM TO FILL OUT & GET BIGGER & STRONGER. SIMILAR TO AARON SELE. HIGH 3/4 ARM SLOT. LOOSE ARM, FAIR MECHANICS. FB HAS ARM SIDE RUN, SINK ACTION WHEN DOWN. CB RUNS DOWN & AWAY. OCCAISIONAL PROPER PLANE & BREAK TO SLIDER. CHANGE UP HAS POTENTIAL.

1008 DREW PHILLIPS NORTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA ST SS R/R 6'2" 195 1981-04-12 4YR
COMMENT:

1038 ROBERT PALENCIA MONSIGNOR EDWARD PACE HS RHP R/R 6'1" 190 1986-01-09 HS
COMMENT:

1068 TODD JOHNSON CENTRAL MICHIGAN U LHP L/L 0'63" 210 1980-11-29 4YR
COMMENT:

1098 ANDREW WELLS TULSA UNION HS LF R/R 6'2" 205 1985-08-08 HS
COMMENT:

1128 ROBERT ORTON FLORIDA ATLANTIC U C R/R 6'1" 210 1982-05-24 4YR
COMMENT:

1158 MARIO COLLETTO SIMI VALLEY HS 1B L/L 6'3" 165 1986-03-20 HS
COMMENT:

1188 BRAD MORENKO OAKLAND U RHP R/R 6'4" 215 1981-08-15 4YR
COMMENT:

1218 SCOTT MUELLER GREENWAY HS RHP R/R 6'3" 175 1986-06-09 HS
COMMENT:

1247 BEN PRICE TERRA LINDA HS SS S/R 0'63" 185 1986-05-20 HS
COMMENT:

1276 BENJAMIN PARKER HUSTON-TILLOTSON COLLEGE RHP R/R 6'3" 220 1980-08-01 4YR
COMMENT:

1305 JACOB LONG JOHANSEN HS C R/R 6'1" 180 1986-04-17 HS
COMMENT:

1334 BRANDON ROBERTS U MICHIGAN RF L/R 0'64" 215 1981-08-08 4YR
COMMENT:

1363 JUSTIN GLOVER WESTSIDE HS 1B R/R 6'1" 220 1985-10-31 HS
COMMENT:

1392 BRADLEY JARRELL DENHAM SPRINGS HS 1B R/R 0'0" 0 1985-10-18 HS
COMMENT:

1421 BRADLEY KEY U SOUTH CAROLINA 3B R/R 6'0" 185 1983-03-14 4YR
COMMENT:

1449 TYLER CALES JAMES MADISON HS RHP R/R 6'4" 195 1986-02-20 HS
COMMENT:

1477 JUAN BUCK EAST HS LF R/R 6'3" 214 1985-01-26 HS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: TALL, LARGE FRAME. WELL PROPORTIONED, ATHLETIC BUILD. SUPPLE. BROAD SHOULDERS. THICK THROUGH CHEST. EXRA-LONG ARMS. BIG HANDS. STRONG LEGS. NEAR PHYSICAL MATURITY. SIMILAR TO ALBERT PUJOLS. SLIGHTLY CLOSED, UPRIGHT STANCE. SLIGHT UPPERCUT STROKE. VERY QUICK THROUGH ZONE. GOOD EXTENTION & FOLLOW THROUGH. BALL JUMPS & CARRIES OFF BAT. PLUS HR PWR POTENTIAL. POWERFUL STRIDE, 4.25-1B, 6.90-60 YD. TRACKS BALL WELL IN OUTFIELD. PHYSICALLY IMPRESSIVE. STRONG. BAT CHANCE TO BE SPECIAL. RUN PRODUCER POTENTIAL. BIG UPSIDE.


:GAC:

gm
06-09-2004, 11:27 AM
108 RAFAEL GONZALEZ NO SCHOOL RHP R/R 6'3" 225 1986-03-21 NS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: FORMER LEAN PITCHERS BODY NOW HEAVY & SOFT. WIDE, ROUNDED SHOULDERS. ADDED WEIGHT THROUGH MIDDLE, HIPS & THIGHS, CORRECTABLE W/ HARD WORK. HIGH WINDUP, LOW ELBOW, 3/4 SLOT, LANDS TO 1B LINE. LOOSE ARM, NEAR COMPACT IN BACK, FINE OUT FRONT. MOST FB 90-91. KNUCKLE-CB, FLASHED 1 FAIR, 3/4 ROTATION. PLAYER STATES KNUCKLE-CB GRIP CHANGEUP. DEFINITE RAW PWR ARM STRENGTH.



Sounds like RG ate his way from "Ramon Martinez" to "Livian Hernandez"

creek14
06-09-2004, 02:22 PM
Just a little observation on Dylan Moseley. Terry once told me that he has much better stuff than Dustin at the same age, but not near the discipline/drive. FWIW.

Doc. Scott
06-09-2004, 02:30 PM
Dylan has to have a college scholarship on the table, does he not?

Raisor
06-09-2004, 07:02 PM
Rob Neyer's column today is about the "scout speak" from the draft (those, uh, interesting comments like:


108 RAFAEL GONZALEZ NO SCHOOL RHP R/R 6'3" 225 1986-03-21 NS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: FORMER LEAN PITCHERS BODY NOW HEAVY & SOFT. WIDE, ROUNDED SHOULDERS. ADDED WEIGHT THROUGH MIDDLE, HIPS & THIGHS, CORRECTABLE W/ HARD WORK. HIGH WINDUP, LOW ELBOW, 3/4 SLOT, LANDS TO 1B LINE. LOOSE ARM, NEAR COMPACT IN BACK, FINE OUT FRONT. MOST FB 90-91. KNUCKLE-CB, FLASHED 1 FAIR, 3/4 ROTATION. PLAYER STATES KNUCKLE-CB GRIP CHANGEUP. DEFINITE RAW PWR ARM STRENGTH.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=neyer_rob&id=1818713

M2
06-09-2004, 07:30 PM
Neyer's piece notes that B.J. Szymanski has a "race horse type body" and that he resembles John Olerud. I'm going to assume that resemblance is only from the neck up, because Olerud got a nice, possumy figure. You can't be both athletically architected and built like John Olerud. And if it's only a facial resemblance, why bother to include it? That Olerud line is either completely incogruous or totally irrelevant.

WVRed
06-09-2004, 10:35 PM
FWIW, can this be archived in the future? Im not overly concerned about right now, since I might bold whoever we sign.

Boss-Hog
06-09-2004, 10:46 PM
FWIW, can this be archived in the future? Im not overly concerned about right now, since I might bold whoever we sign.
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