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SteelSD
04-16-2005, 03:37 PM
He's definitely got good stuff when he can keep it down in the zone and move it around like he did today.

He did a great job today, I sure hope he can break that pattern, Steel. Did he seem like he was losing his concentration when he'd get hit hard with the Twins?

Honestly, bud...it would all happen so quickly, that you really couldn't tell. I guess you could call it concentration, but it was so strange because one moment you'd be like "Wow...this guy could pitch a no-hitter today!" Then a couple minutes later, you'd be wondering where that 3-Run lead went to.

Normally, I think I can see a breakdown coming. Guy elevates his pitches...starts hanging breaking balls up in the zone...gives up a BB to a guy who should be an easy out...etc. But with Milton, he'll look exactly the same unhittable self and then...suddenly...the lead is gone. Like I said, it's just strange. I dunno why. Could be that his fastball straightens out as he tires. Could be that his fly ball rate just catches up with him too often. But I've rarely seen a guy who just looks dazzling and then, suddenly, there are baseballs flying all over the ballpark.

And yeah, he's fully capable of pitching games like he did today and doesn't just "luck" into those kind of starts. He's skilled enough to do it.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2005, 03:38 PM
Graves in....hold on to your seat

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2005, 03:38 PM
Bagwell doubles.

Puffy
04-16-2005, 03:38 PM
I'd rather see the Mets get out of Shea. I think it's heresy to tear down Yankee Stadium.

Actually if I were the Mets, I'd urge the Yankees to build in Manhattan and I'd move into the House That Ruth Built.

Well, I've always said Shea Stadium is the ugliest stadium from the outside I have ever seen. They have these horrible flouresent things on the outside, its just bad.

But the interior of the Stadium is actually really nice. Lots of good seats, etc. I agree that the Mets could use a better stadium, but its not all that bad either.

adampad
04-16-2005, 03:39 PM
Do you think they put Graves in because they think drama sells tickets?

Thats all I can think of.

Raisor
04-16-2005, 03:39 PM
Well, I've always said Shea Stadium is the ugliest stadium from the outside I have ever seen. They have these horrible flouresent things on the outside, its just bad.

But the interior of the Stadium is actually really nice. Lots of good seats, etc. I agree that the Mets could use a better stadium, but its not all that bad either.


and they DO have a giant apple.

Apples are good.

CTA513
04-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Ensberg grounds out. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Ensberg grounds out to the pitcher. 1 out.

Raisor
04-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Do you think they put Graves in because they think drama sells tickets?

Thats all I can think of.


:runawaycr

Falls City Beer
04-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Well, I've always said Shea Stadium is the ugliest stadium from the outside I have ever seen. They have these horrible flouresent things on the outside, its just bad.

But the interior of the Stadium is actually really nice. Lots of good seats, etc. I agree that the Mets could use a better stadium, but its not all that bad either.


I completely agree. Shea has always topped my list of underrated ballparks.

SteelSD
04-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Oh, funny thing happened today during the 8th Inning in the Florida/Mets game.

Todd Jones in to pitch. Miguel Cairo walks to the plate. Jones pulls out NOTES from his back pocket, reads them, then proceeds to pitch to Cairo.

I have no idea what he was reading, but the announcers figured it must be his scouting report on Cairo.

Then Jones walked Cairo on five pitches.

Go figure.

CTA513
04-16-2005, 03:41 PM
Gold Glove Graves. 2 outs.

KronoRed
04-16-2005, 03:41 PM
One more out please :pray:

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2005, 03:41 PM
Lane grounds out to Graves. Good play by Graves on a hard hit ball. 2 outs.

DoogMinAmo
04-16-2005, 03:41 PM
Graves must have the sinkeer working, two straight GBs up the middle right back to him.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2005, 03:42 PM
Lamb pinch hitting for Burke

Matt700wlw
04-16-2005, 03:42 PM
Oh, funny thing happened today during the 8th Inning in the Florida/Mets game.

Todd Jones in to pitch. Miguel Cairo walks to the plate. Jones pulls out NOTES from his back pocket, reads them, then proceeds to pitch to Cairo.

I have no idea what he was reading, but the announcers figured it must be his scouting report on Cairo.

Then Jones walked Cairo on five pitches.

Go figure.

Must have been Don Gullett's cheat sheet

Puffy
04-16-2005, 03:43 PM
Braden Looper comes in with a one run lead and immediately gives up back to back singles to Cabrera and Delgado, to put runners on the corners with no outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2005, 03:43 PM
Lamb drives in a run 3-2.

KronoRed
04-16-2005, 03:43 PM
Braden Looper comes in with a one run lead and immediately gives up back to back singles to Cabrera and Delgado, to put runners on the corners with no outs.
Graves trying to match him :rant2:

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2005, 03:43 PM
Vizcaino in to pinch hit for Ausmus.

Raisor
04-16-2005, 03:44 PM
Lamb drives in a run 3-2.



:rant2:

GAC
04-16-2005, 03:44 PM
Good old Danny "drama" Graves. :lol:

3-2 now with 2 outs

Milton has his Graves doll out sticking pins in it!

Puffy
04-16-2005, 03:44 PM
Oh, funny thing happened today during the 8th Inning in the Florida/Mets game.

Todd Jones in to pitch. Miguel Cairo walks to the plate. Jones pulls out NOTES from his back pocket, reads them, then proceeds to pitch to Cairo.

I have no idea what he was reading, but the announcers figured it must be his scouting report on Cairo.

Then Jones walked Cairo on five pitches.

Go figure.

Ahem.

I posted about that last page. Am I on your ignore because of the whole "hat" issue?

Matt700wlw
04-16-2005, 03:44 PM
:explode:

RFS62
04-16-2005, 03:44 PM
Oh, funny thing happened today during the 8th Inning in the Florida/Mets game.

Todd Jones in to pitch. Miguel Cairo walks to the plate. Jones pulls out NOTES from his back pocket, reads them, then proceeds to pitch to Cairo.

I have no idea what he was reading, but the announcers figured it must be his scouting report on Cairo.

Then Jones walked Cairo on five pitches.

Go figure.


He did it with us too. He's got notes on how he wants to pitch each hitter, and carries it with him like a yardage book.

CTA513
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Reds Win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KronoRed
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Reds win!!! :D

Jaycint
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Bruntlett in to pinch run, guess he's a speed demon. :dancingco

jhiller21
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Reds Win! Danny almost blew it again :)

Raisor
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Final in Chicago, CWS def Sea 2-1 in 1 hour and 40 minutes

RFS62
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Yeah Baby

Reds1
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Yes! In typical Danny Graves fassion we actually beat the stros.

M2
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Danny always makes sure the fans get their money's worth.

DoogMinAmo
04-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Tobttr!

GAC
04-16-2005, 03:46 PM
This one belongs to the Reds!

3-2

SERENITY NOW! SERENITY NOW!

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2005, 03:46 PM
Vizcaino grounds out to second. Reds win 3-2. We finally beat the Astros this year. :beerme:

SteelSD
04-16-2005, 03:47 PM
Ahem.

I posted about that last page. Am I on your ignore because of the whole "hat" issue?

Well...exCUSE me!

What, like I'm just supposed to search for YOUR posts while I type my own, Mr. Puffy Big Shot Man Guy???

And I still hate your hate of hats. So THERE! :mooner:

Puffy
04-16-2005, 03:47 PM
That was a typical Danny Graves save.

:explode:

Falls City Beer
04-16-2005, 03:47 PM
In other news, Brewers face real team; lose unceremoniously. Full Report.

Raisor
04-16-2005, 03:47 PM
This one belongs to the Reds!

3-2

SERENITY NOW! SERENITY NOW!


Serenity now, insanity later

RFS62
04-16-2005, 03:48 PM
That was a typical Danny Graves save.

:explode:


I just know he owns a lot of stock in Rolaids or Excedrin

traderumor
04-16-2005, 03:48 PM
Final in Chicago, CWS def Sea 2-1 in 1 hour and 40 minutes
Tom Browning would be proud. Missed most of the game at my son's bball practice. Glad to see Milton pitch well. Ok, off to see if the Dodgers can finish off Gibson and the Cards, circa 1969. 1-0 Dodgers, Bill Sudakis took Gibby deep, I think he's going down next time up :)

SteelSD
04-16-2005, 03:48 PM
And Dan O'Brien might just want to get on the horn with Omar because Braden Looper appears to be a Danny Graves wanna-be so far this year. Just blew another Save in the top of the ninth.

ws1990reds
04-16-2005, 03:49 PM
Well, Danny Graves does it ugly but he got the save. :rolleyes:

membengal
04-16-2005, 03:49 PM
Nice game thread, I am just as glad I skipped last night's...

Kudos to Milton, the team needed a gem from one of its pitchers to pick up the offense a little bit.

Interesting comments on Milton by Steel...I have observed the same things from him over the years, I guess my hope is that he will have more "on" days than "concerntration lapses" as his years advance. I guess a hopeful sign is two starts in GABP for Milton and two Reds wins.

I am also enjoying the lift Wily Mo is giving the team in his role.

And, since I am in the Lopez camp, nice big hit for Rich. Good to see.

FlyingPig
04-16-2005, 03:49 PM
At least for one day we are the Astro's daddy...

:bowrofl:

Puffy
04-16-2005, 03:50 PM
And Dan O'Brien might just want to get on the horn with Omar because Braden Looper appears to be a Danny Graves wanna-be so far this year. Just blew another Save in the top of the ninth.

Yup. And Looper was lucky because Cabrera was safe the play before Encarnacion doubled, so the Mets could be losing now instead of tied.

KronoRed
04-16-2005, 03:50 PM
I'd like to see Wagner start to get some save opportunities

Puffy
04-16-2005, 03:51 PM
This is what game threads used to be - so thanks to everyone who contributed. Even Raisor.

KronoRed
04-16-2005, 03:52 PM
This is what game threads used to be - so thanks to everyone who contributed. Even Raisor.

Agreed, this was a good thread everyone :clap:

I'm 1-0 in game threads..I will never start another one again ;)

BCubb2003
04-16-2005, 03:53 PM
I'd like to see Wagner start to get some save opportunities

If he starts, how can he get save opportunities? Never mind...

M2
04-16-2005, 03:53 PM
I completely agree. Shea has always topped my list of underrated ballparks.

Really? I can't stand Shea. I was always on the fence about which I disliked more, Shea or the Vet. Never could decide. Hit it with a wrecking ball and reclaim the parkland.

SteelSD
04-16-2005, 03:53 PM
I am also enjoying the lift Wily Mo is giving the team in his role.

One day, God was watching all the MLB games at once (he can do that because he's God) and decided that Left-Handed pitchers were getting out of hand.

Wily Mo Pena is His effort to do something about that.;)

Raisor
04-16-2005, 03:54 PM
I'd like to see Wagner start to get some save opportunities


I'm torn.

On days I think the Reds might be able to contend, I'd like Wagner to get the saves. On most days, however, I'd like to see Graves still get the chances to shine him up, so they can (maybe) ship him out. Like to try to flip him before his contract is up. SOMEONE (I'm looking at you JimBo) would give the Reds a bucket of balls or something for him.

Jaycint
04-16-2005, 03:54 PM
Great perfomance out of Milton today. Here's to hoping that's the guy we see the majority of the time he takes the hill.

Raisor
04-16-2005, 03:55 PM
This is what game threads used to be - so thanks to everyone who contributed. Even Raisor.


You're welcome.

Wait.

HEEEYYY!

:eek:

Falls City Beer
04-16-2005, 03:55 PM
Really? I can't stand Shea. I was always on the fence about which I disliked more, Shea or the Vet. Never could decide. Hit it with a wrecking ball and reclaim the parkland.

Don't know why. Maybe it has some sentimental attachment for me. It's scuzzy, but it doesn't have that empty canyon feel that the Vet had.

RFS62
04-16-2005, 03:56 PM
Really? I can't stand Shea. I was always on the fence about which I disliked more, Shea or the Vet. Never could decide. Hit it with a wrecking ball and reclaim the parkland.



Which reminds me, what's the worst park in the American League?








.
Chan Ho Park.

SteelSD
04-16-2005, 03:56 PM
Don't know why. Maybe it has some sentimental attachment for me. It's scuzzy, but it doesn't have that empty canyon feel that the Vet had.

It's the apple.

<Update:> Mota just melted down for the Fish, allowing Looper to vulture a Win. Ugly Ninth Inning.

Raisor
04-16-2005, 03:57 PM
It's the apple.


First you steal Puffy's bit on the notebook, now you're ripping off my apple joke.

You sir are a disgrace.

;)

Puffy
04-16-2005, 04:00 PM
Which reminds me, what's the worst park in the American League?

Chan Ho Park.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

M2
04-16-2005, 04:04 PM
Don't know why. Maybe it has some sentimental attachment for me. It's scuzzy, but it doesn't have that empty canyon feel that the Vet had.

I do like the upper deck in RF where it fells like one wrong step and you'll fall 150 feet to your death.

BCubb2003
04-16-2005, 04:04 PM
Was the last out a play at first or a play at a base?

Mutaman
04-16-2005, 04:07 PM
The NY Football Giants have announced plans to build a new stadium in the Meadowlands. The Jets have a brand new facility thats going to be built in Manhattan. Now the Yanks have a new yankee Stadium going up in the Bronx.

Thats awesome!

The Jets stadium will never be built in Manhattan. too many reasons not too and too many people against it.

DoogMinAmo
04-16-2005, 04:07 PM
Was the last out a play at first or a play at a base?

From Gameday:

Pitch 1 - Ball
Pitch 2 - Ball
Pitch 3 - In play, out(s) recorded

Jose Vizcaino grounds out, second baseman D'Angelo Jimenez to first baseman Sean Casey.