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savafan
04-21-2005, 10:03 PM
Which of these do you think we'll see as president first?

TRF
04-21-2005, 10:08 PM
Colin Powell in '08!

Who's with me!!!

Unassisted
04-21-2005, 11:11 PM
Colin Powell in '08!

Who's with me!!!If the choice in '08 is between Hillary and Colin Powell, I think I'll stay home in November. There have to be better choices.

RedsBaron
04-21-2005, 11:13 PM
If the choice in '08 is between Hillary and Colin Powell, I think I'll stay home in November. There have to be better choices.
Who would you suggest?

TRF
04-21-2005, 11:26 PM
Unassisted, you say that after what the country nominated in '04?

Powell vs Hillary

Bush vs Kerry

'08 in a landslide.

Unassisted
04-21-2005, 11:33 PM
Who would you suggest?Rudy Giuliani or Christie Whitman would get me excited for the GOP side. I'm less well-versed in the Dems, but would pay attention if a "Blue Dog" emerged. The nearest Blue Dog example to me is Henry Cuellar, but he's a mere freshman in the House.

My idol in the House during the 90's was Scott Klug, Republican from Wisconsin. I would have followed that guy into a burning building. He retired once it was no longer fashionable to be a moderate.

KronoRed
04-21-2005, 11:34 PM
Neither

Hispanic

RBA
04-21-2005, 11:34 PM
Barbara Boxer would be a nice choice.

savafan
04-21-2005, 11:35 PM
Neither

Hispanic

Interesting, who?

RBA
04-21-2005, 11:36 PM
Neither

Hispanic

Bill Richardson, maybe not the best choice, but he is popular out west. And he might be able to pick up Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado for the Dems.

KronoRed
04-21-2005, 11:38 PM
Interesting, who?

No idea

but it won't be before 2020, I hope I'm wrong but we've been electing middle age white guys for 200 plus years, it will be 2-4 elections in a row of a serious candidate giving it a shot before one gets elected.

RBA
04-21-2005, 11:41 PM
No idea

but it won't be before 2020, I hope I'm wrong but we've been electing middle age white guys for 200 plus years, it will be 2-4 elections in a row of a serious candidate giving it a shot before one gets elected.

It will happen when we least expect it. But it will happen.

gm
04-22-2005, 02:49 AM
Better odds of the US being invaded by foreign armies

RedsBaron
04-22-2005, 08:00 AM
Bill Richardson, maybe not the best choice, but he is popular out west. And he might be able to pick up Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado for the Dems.
Richardson was one guy I thought that Kerry should have chosen as his runningmate. I thought he was more likely to deliver a state or two to the ticket than was Edwards.
I'd guess we are more likely to see a woman President first, but I then agree with KronoRed-an Hispanic President is probably more likely than an African-American President.

RedFanAlways1966
04-22-2005, 08:42 AM
Condi Rice would be a nice(r) choice.

RedsBaron
04-22-2005, 08:45 AM
It could be an interesting discussion about what "kind" of woman or Hispanic or African-American would be a likely successful candidate.
One of the prejudices against a woman President would probably be whether or not she was "strong enough" to be Commander in Chief. I'm not advocating that prejudice; I'm just saying it likely will be there. Margaret Thatcher obviously didn't have much problem in overcoming that prejudice in Britian. Among prominent women in this country, Hillary Clinton and Condi Rice may be in the best position at the moment, and they would still probably have problems with the prejudice. A woman would have to be considered to be strong without being strident, an unfair standard, but one that probably would still be there. RBA mentioned Barabra Boxer, but I can't see her ever having enough moderate appeal to grab a few of the red states a Democrat would need to be elected.
A successful Hispanic or African-American candidate would probably have to be non-threatening to white voters. I'll use Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan, both of whom were conservatives, as examples. I realize some here probably hated both men, but Goldwater lost big and Reagan won big in Presidential politics in part because Goldwater appeared to be threatening while Reagan appeared to be a sunny optimist. Barack Obama has a much better chance IMO of being elected President than Jesse Jackson ever did because Obama gives the appearance of being an optimistic unifier while Jackson was polarizing. Colin Powell had appeal as a possible candidate because he appeared to be competent and non-threatening. One of the things I liked about Bill Richarson as a possible candidate was that he seems to be quietly competent.

bomarl1969
04-22-2005, 09:22 AM
If Hillary Clinton becomes president of this country I am moving to the Bahamas because I would be ashamed to call her our country's president.

Johnny Footstool
04-22-2005, 11:04 AM
Condi Rice would be a nice(r) choice.

Nicer than what? An Al-Queda operative? A pint of yogurt? A talking goat?

zombie-a-go-go
04-22-2005, 11:05 AM
If Hillary Clinton becomes president of this country I am moving to the Bahamas because I would be ashamed to call her our country's president.

See, guys... Republicans and Democrats aren't as different as everyone says they are. :laugh:

westofyou
04-22-2005, 12:05 PM
Nicer than what? An Al-Queda operative? A pint of yogurt? A talking goat?

A sockful of BB's upside the head would be my guess.