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Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 12:49 PM
That "quad injury" must be keeping him out....

paintmered
04-24-2005, 01:00 PM
Lineups?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

LvJ
04-24-2005, 01:20 PM
CINCINNATI FLORIDA
AVG HR RBI AVG HR RBI
Ryan Freel 2B .379 0 1 Juan Pierre CF .315 0 4
Ken Griffey Jr CF .200 0 3 Damion Easley 2B .182 0 1
Sean Casey 1B .258 0 3 Carlos Delgado 1B .333 2 9
Joe Randa 3B .281 4 12 Juan Encarnacion RF .290 3 19
Adam Dunn LF .300 4 9 Paul Lo Duca C .352 1 8
Austin Kearns RF .195 1 5 Mike Lowell 3B .176 2 8
Rich Aurilia SS .217 2 8 Jeff Conine LF .286 0 0
Jason Larue C .238 0 4 Alex Gonzalez SS .218 1 7
Brandon Claussen LHP .000 0 0 Brian Moehler RHP .000 0 0
(0-1, 5.40) (1-0, 2.13)

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 01:23 PM
Casey and Griffey still ahead of Dunn. :explode:

Lopez goes 2-3 with a homer yesterday..and is on the bench today.

BadFundamentals
04-24-2005, 01:37 PM
should be Dunn batting 2 and Griff batting 5 :cool:

buckshotrod
04-24-2005, 01:38 PM
Makes a lot of sense to my managerial mind..Griffey bats 2nd batting .200 and Ks more than my grandma. I like Miley but dag nab it, put his butt on the bench with jimenez so they can play with each other. I would start Cruz over Griff. don't get me wrong, he WAS a great player but you don't win by playing a guy that can't do it anymore and still don't know how to run out a "so called HR" that bounces off the fence!

BadFundamentals
04-24-2005, 01:39 PM
I didn't realize it but Miley must subscribe to KRISP and understand that KRISPY hitters make good cleanup and 5 holers. Randa has cooled off but Miley keeping him in 4 hole on strength of his low strikeouts (for this team) and .308 RISP.

SYCMiniBus
04-24-2005, 01:45 PM
Miley has the tough job of keeping Casey and Jr happy and also trying to get them rolling. If he drops them to the 5 and 6 hole or the 6 and 7 hole then he is running a risk of hurting their confidence and get them thinking even more. Then again keeping them so high in the order you run the risk of hurting your team. While I dont think Dunn should bat 5 I dont think he should bat 2 either. I would probably go: Freel, Casey, Dunn, Kearns, Jr., Randa, Aurillia, LaRue (with todays players). But normally I would put Pena in the 4 spot instead of Kearns and Lopez instead of Aurillia.

Walkerforpres
04-24-2005, 01:50 PM
When it's broke.....don't fix it, I guess. Unbelieveable. Hoping for a solid Claussen performance today......

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:08 PM
Freel leads off with a hit

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:10 PM
Freel steals second

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:11 PM
Jr not running hard all the way?

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:11 PM
Junior grounds out to first, Freel goes to third. 1 out.

Kc61
04-24-2005, 02:11 PM
That's exactly why Griffey should not hit second. A typical two hitter beats that out.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 02:12 PM
Nice running, Junior...I knew you had it in you :)

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:12 PM
Ok, never mind. He was. Good going Jr.

Walkerforpres
04-24-2005, 02:12 PM
Why not? If Freel went to third (Sportsline hasn't gotten that far yet), then Griffey did his job for that AB.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:12 PM
1-0 Reds

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:12 PM
Casey gronds out to short and drives in the run 1-0 Reds

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Randa flies out to end the inning.

Walkerforpres
04-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Someone's been listening to George Grande's blather ("get 'em on, get 'em over, get 'em in). Nice job.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:15 PM
Pierre grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

Trace's Daddy
04-24-2005, 02:16 PM
Shouldn't the #2 batter lay down a bunt sometimes to advance the #1 guy when he's on? Would Griffey ever bunt?

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:17 PM
Easley flies out to second. 2 outs.

RedsBaron
04-24-2005, 02:18 PM
Miley has the tough job of keeping Casey and Jr happy and also trying to get them rolling. If he drops them to the 5 and 6 hole or the 6 and 7 hole then he is running a risk of hurting their confidence and get them thinking even more. Then again keeping them so high in the order you run the risk of hurting your team. While I dont think Dunn should bat 5 I dont think he should bat 2 either. I would probably go: Freel, Casey, Dunn, Kearns, Jr., Randa, Aurillia, LaRue (with todays players). But normally I would put Pena in the 4 spot instead of Kearns and Lopez instead of Aurillia.
I'm much more interested in the team winning than I am in trying to keep Griffey and Casey "happy."

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 02:19 PM
I'm much more interested in the team winning than I am in trying to keep Griffey and Casey "happy."

My thoughts exactly.

Drop them down. If they don't like, oh well. Start hitting is all I can tell you.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:19 PM
Awesome inning Santa.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:19 PM
Delgado strikes out looking. Good inning for Claussen.

Walkerforpres
04-24-2005, 02:19 PM
Claussen off to a good start.

Kc61
04-24-2005, 02:20 PM
That's the best I've ever seen Claussen throw.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 02:20 PM
Delgado takes strike 3.

Good inning from Claussen.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:22 PM
Dunn grounds out to second. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:23 PM
Kearns lines a hit to right.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:25 PM
Aurlia strike out looking. 2 outs.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 02:27 PM
My thoughts exactly.

Drop them down. If they don't like, oh well. Start hitting is all I can tell you.

Last year Casey was an RBI machine early out of the 5 spot (and the 6 spot). Then they moved him up.
Griffey hit 5th, 6th or cleanup most of the time.

Randa has never been a cleanup hitter.

I don't see why they would mind a switch. I think Miley has that "player sensitivity" stuff in his head and that's what's keeping him back (aside from the fact he's not very bright).

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:28 PM
Larue strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds middle of the 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:32 PM
Encarnacion flies out to right. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:34 PM
Lo Duca singles

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:36 PM
Dunn is silly.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:36 PM
Lowell doubles. Looked like Dunn lost track of the ball.

savafan
04-24-2005, 02:39 PM
Lowell doubles. Looked like Dunn lost track of the ball.

Not trying to knock Dunn, but would his defense at first hurt anymore than his defense in the outfield?

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:39 PM
Conine strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:41 PM
Gonzalez is intentionally walked to get to the pitcher. Bases loaded with 2 outs.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 02:41 PM
Moehler is career O for 32.

Hope he's not due.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 02:41 PM
Dunn's defense is offensive.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:42 PM
What a play Claussen!

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:42 PM
Moehler grounds out to the pitcher to end the inning. 1-0 Reds after 2.

SYCMiniBus
04-24-2005, 02:45 PM
I'm much more interested in the team winning than I am in trying to keep Griffey and Casey "happy."

With all do respect part of the reason you feel that way is because you are not the manager of the team and do not have to deal with them every day. There is more to being a manager then making out a lineup card. I do not know if a calculator will tell you that, but any actually manger will.

Hoosier Red
04-24-2005, 02:46 PM
Conine strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Just to point out, this strikeout was probably worse for the fish than if he had put a bat on the ball somewhere.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
Claussen flies out to left. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
Freel gets another hit.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
Again...Ryan Freel makes it tough to take him out of the everyday lineup

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
Great atbat by Claussen! Flyout on the 9th pitch.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
ahh Freel.

it aint rocket science. Luckily for Freel, Griffey doesn't play in the infield.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
:dancingco Nobody stoppin' Freel

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 02:48 PM
...wow...Griffey's BA is now under 200 :eek:

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:49 PM
Junior gets an infield hit. 1st and 2nd with one out.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:49 PM
Hey, a hit Jr. :)

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 02:49 PM
Junior gets a base hit!!!! No hustle, and almost still got thrown out, AS USUAL. But at least he didnt spike himself.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:49 PM
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: Easley ..

Chip R
04-24-2005, 02:50 PM
Just to point out, this strikeout was probably worse for the fish than if he had put a bat on the ball somewhere.Not if he had hit it back to the pitcher or the 3rd baseman or popped it up on the infield or hit a foul pop up or hit a nubber in front of the plate.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:50 PM
Casey drives in a run with an infield hit. 2-0 Reds. 1st and 2nd with one out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:51 PM
Randa fouls out to first. 2 outs.

Hoosier Red
04-24-2005, 02:52 PM
Not if he had hit it back to the pitcher or the 3rd baseman or popped it up on the infield or hit a foul pop up or hit a nubber in front of the plate.
BAH!

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:52 PM
Dunn flies out to deep center. Inning over. 2-0 Reds middle of the 3rd.

Chip R
04-24-2005, 02:55 PM
BAH!HUMBUG!

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:55 PM
Pierre grounds out to first. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:57 PM
Easley grounds out to short. 2 outs.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 02:58 PM
That's a real OFer for ya. Good play Kearns.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 02:58 PM
Delgado flies out to right. 1-2-3 inning for Claussen. 2-0 Reds after 3.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 03:02 PM
great catch by Kearns.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:03 PM
Kearns with another solid hit to right.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 03:03 PM
Kearns 2-2 :beerme:

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 03:03 PM
Kearns... nice hit too.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:04 PM
Aurilia grounds into a 4-6-3 double play.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:04 PM
Larue lines out to second. 2-0 Reds middle of the 4th.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:08 PM
Encarnacion leads off with a walk

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:09 PM
Lo Duca flies out to center. 1 out.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 03:10 PM
Good play Jr.

LvJ
04-24-2005, 03:12 PM
Earthquake in Fl. ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:13 PM
Lowell walks. 1st and 2nd with one out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:15 PM
Conine strikes out looking on a nice pitch on the outside corner. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:18 PM
Gonzalez flies out to the warning track in left. 2-0 Reds after 4.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 03:21 PM
Conine strikes out looking on a nice pitch on the outside corner. 2 outs.

Good thing Conine is in for Cabrera today. :D

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:21 PM
Claussen grounds out to the pitcher. 1 out.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 03:22 PM
Claussen has seen 15 pitches in his 2 atbats today. Impressive.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:22 PM
Freel grounds out to the pitcher. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:24 PM
Junior flies out to third. 2-0 Reds middle of the 5th.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:27 PM
Moehler grounds out to second.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 03:28 PM
Moehler grounds out to second.


OH for 34...

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:29 PM
Easley lines out to third. Nice catch by Randa. Inning over. 2-0 Reds after 5.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 03:29 PM
7 pitch inning for Brandon.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 03:29 PM
Nice 7 pitch inning for Claussen. 83 pitches through 5.

He can probably go 1 more inning.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:31 PM
Casey lines a hit to center.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 03:31 PM
Is Sean Casey coming out of his slump?

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 03:31 PM
I'd like to see Dunn connect for a HR this inning...

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:33 PM
Randa lines out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:35 PM
Dunn walks, 1st and 2nd with one out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:37 PM
Kearns strikes out looking. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:38 PM
Aurilia flies out to second. 2-0 Reds middle of the 6th.

westofyou
04-24-2005, 03:39 PM
Maybe Claussen can school Aurilia on the advandages of working the count?

The guys saw at most 4-5 pitches in his 3 ab's today, just plain sad.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:41 PM
Delgado hit by the pitch to lead off the inning.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 03:42 PM
Maybe Claussen can school Aurilia on the advandages of working the count?

The guys saw at most 4-5 pitches in his 3 ab's today, just plain sad.

Absolutely. Claussen 15 pitches in two ABs.

RFS62
04-24-2005, 03:43 PM
Claussen at 90 pitches

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:43 PM
Encarnacion flies out to center. 1 out.

Kc61
04-24-2005, 03:44 PM
Absolutely. Claussen 15 pitches in two ABs.

Well, Kearns worked the count just before RA and got called out. Sometimes hitting the first pitch is good. The problem today is that Aurilia isn't hitting it very well.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 03:47 PM
Well, Kearns worked the count just before RA and got called out. Sometimes hitting the first pitch is good. The problem today is that Aurilia isn't hitting it very well.

I get your point, but not a good example. Kearns fouled off two pitches before taking strike three.

So he was actually swinging from the start.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:47 PM
Lo Duca lines a hit to right. 1st and 2nd with one out.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:47 PM
Valentine coming in to pitch.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 03:48 PM
Lo Duca lines a hit to right. 1st and 2nd with one out.

Time to yank Brandon...he's done.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 03:50 PM
Claussen pitched well today...would have been nice to get him through the sixth, but he pitched 5 solid innings

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:51 PM
Lowell strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

westofyou
04-24-2005, 03:51 PM
Sometimes hitting the first pitch is good.

Sure it is, but RA's a hacker and has never learned to take a walk yet.

6th inning pitch counts rise, work on that a bit...plus he hacked at the 1st pitch in his last ab.

3.56 pitches per plate apperance for RA in his career, 4440 ab's with an itchy trigger finger.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:53 PM
Conine flies out to center. Good job by Valentine to get out of the inning and a good start by Claussen. 2-0 Reds after 6.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 03:53 PM
Valentine has come around....he's been pitching well

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:57 PM
Larue strikes out looking. Pitch looked inside. Cruz pinch hitting for Valentine.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 03:57 PM
LaRue talking smack. Too funny.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 03:58 PM
Cruz grounds out to second. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:00 PM
Freel strikes out swinging. 2-0 Reds middle of the 7th

oneupper
04-24-2005, 04:01 PM
Seven measly singles and two runs off Brian "CY"' Moehler. That's the definition of collective slump.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:03 PM
Wagner in to pitch.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:05 PM
Gonzalez grounds out to third. Castillo pinch hitting for Moehler.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:06 PM
Castillo ground out to second. Nice Play by Freel!

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:07 PM
I sense a Freel benching after today... ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:07 PM
Pierre grounds out to second. 2-0 Reds after 7.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 04:08 PM
9 pitch inning for Wagner. Keep him in for the 8th.

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2005, 04:08 PM
Memo to: DANNY GRAVES
Re: How to pitch an effective inning of relief.
Date: 4/24/05

See: Wagner, Ryan.

Love,
Reds Management

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 04:09 PM
9 pitch inning for Wagner. Keep him in for the 8th.

...and the 9th

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:11 PM
Perisho in to pitch for Florida. Junior strikes out looking. 1 out.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 04:11 PM
Griffey......

....sigh

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:11 PM
OMJ:K

oneupper
04-24-2005, 04:11 PM
Last year Griff took this guy yard for a three run jack...sigh...

Kc61
04-24-2005, 04:12 PM
Casey seems to be finding his stroke.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 04:12 PM
Casey starting to look like Casey!

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:12 PM
Casey doubles his 3rd hit of the game. This is the best Casey has looked in a long time.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:13 PM
Gotta love Casey.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 04:14 PM
Casey has been having a lot of trouble with pitches inside (ground outs).

Super_Barry11
04-24-2005, 04:15 PM
It's the birthday boy!!!!!! :)


(I love the guy, but I hope we hit him hard here!) ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:16 PM
Jones in to pitch for the Marlins

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:16 PM
Smiley Randa... a great pickup to be sure. Even if he did just pop it up.

oneupper
04-24-2005, 04:16 PM
So much for "breaking up the righties"' :p:

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:16 PM
Randa flies out to 1st. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:17 PM
Intentional walk to Dunn.

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2005, 04:18 PM
Casey seems to be finding his stroke.

I believe it was WOY that made the excellent point during one of the pirate game threads that contact hitters, like Casey, are prone to horrific types of slumps because they'll go through prolonged periods of making weak contact and routine groundouts that result in double plays and rally-killing moments.

It's especially true with Casey, who lacks to the speed to beat out some of those infield slaps.

It's just something that you have to deal with when you've got a player like him. ..and it is good to see him on the upswing.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:18 PM
Kearns grounds out to short. Still 2-0 Reds middle of the 8th.

Playadlc
04-24-2005, 04:19 PM
I'm starting to worry just a tad bit about Austin Kearns.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:22 PM
Easley walks to lead off the inning

PuffyPig
04-24-2005, 04:23 PM
I'm starting to worry just a tad bit about Austin Kearns.

He's looked better today with 2 hard hit singles.

westofyou
04-24-2005, 04:23 PM
I'm starting to worry just a tad bit about Austin Kearns.

He has 2 hits today, I'm more worried why Miley keeps batting a guy in the 4th slot who was 3-26 since the Reds played the Cardinals.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 04:23 PM
Reds pitchers always find a way to walk hackers like Easley.

CincyRedsFan30
04-24-2005, 04:23 PM
He has 2 hits today, I'm more worried why Miley keeps batting a guy in the 4th slot who was 3-26 since the Reds played the Cardinals.

So am I.

Randa is NOT a cleanup hitter. I'm sure he's pressing there and he's not hitting as a result.

He needs to bat 5th or 6th right now.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:24 PM
Delgado grounds into a 4-6-3 double play!

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 04:24 PM
Double play!

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 04:24 PM
Double play :clap:

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:25 PM
Encarnacion grounds out to short. 2-0 Reds after 8.

CincyRedsFan30
04-24-2005, 04:25 PM
Nice work by Wagner!

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 04:26 PM
Gotta love Ryan Wagner

MasonBuzz3
04-24-2005, 04:26 PM
wags is filthy

Trace's Daddy
04-24-2005, 04:26 PM
Need to get an insurance run...I have a feeling that things will be getting exciting in the bottom of the 9th

BUTLER REDSFAN
04-24-2005, 04:26 PM
note to reds offense-you are allowed to get more than 2 runs a game

CincyRedsFan30
04-24-2005, 04:26 PM
I would really like at least one run in the 9th here. Otherwise we could certainly have a Grave(s) Situation on our hands.

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 04:27 PM
Need to get an insurance run...I have a feeling that things will be getting exciting in the bottom of the 9th

2 should be enough, Graves lets one guy in then shuts em down :D

flyer85
04-24-2005, 04:27 PM
Everybody ready for Mr Excitement, Full Pack ... Don Sta ... er Danny Graves.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:28 PM
Aurilia doubles to lead off the inning

CincyRedsFan30
04-24-2005, 04:28 PM
Aurilia doubles!

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:29 PM
Good bunt by Larue to get Aurilia to third. Jimenez pinch hitting for Wagner.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:30 PM
Jimenez with a weak line drive to second. 2 outs. Jimenez now 3 for 36 batting left handed.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 04:31 PM
Why waste an out with LaRue? Dumb move by Miley, imo.

PuffyPig
04-24-2005, 04:32 PM
Why waste an out with LaRue? Dumb move by Miley, imo.

Of course, If Jimenez hits a SF, it would have been a good move.

Moving a runner to third with one out is not wasting an out.

We scored in the first by doing that.

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 04:33 PM
That looked outside...oh well..Graves time ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Freel strikes out looking. Reds again strand a runner at third. 2-0 Reds middle of the 9th.

Super_Barry11
04-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Happy Birthday, Todd Jones...

Now let's get 3 outs here and WIN!!!

CincyRedsFan30
04-24-2005, 04:34 PM
So much for getting that run.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Hold your breath, everyone....

RedSchmo2
04-24-2005, 04:35 PM
Jiminez is a piece of crap. I was all for the bunt until I saw Jiminez pinch hitting. Lopez, as bad as he is was a better option after his showing yesterday.

Anyway... here comes the scare with Graves.

Raisor
04-24-2005, 04:36 PM
Jiminez is a piece of crap. .

Easy, killer.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 04:36 PM
Of course, If Jimenez hits a SF, it would have been a good move.

Moving a runner to third with one out is not wasting an out.

We scored in the first by doing that.

I like to play for more than 1 run.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:36 PM
Hold your breath, everyone....

:beerme: Yep...

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2005, 04:36 PM
They really need a little smiley face that's praying for when Danny Graves comes in to pitch...

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:37 PM
Woah... go Reds, but that was ball 4

westofyou
04-24-2005, 04:37 PM
Danny Graves creates tension like a Tribble creates other Tribbles.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2005, 04:37 PM
They really need a little smiley face that's praying for when Danny Graves comes in to pitch...

:pray:

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:37 PM
there's ball 5 for the walk

flyer85
04-24-2005, 04:37 PM
boo yah

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:37 PM
Lo Duca walks. The Danny Graves rollercoaster ride begins.

MasonBuzz3
04-24-2005, 04:38 PM
time for the most exciting 3 outs in baseball....
lead-off walks are always fun :doh:

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 04:38 PM
How bout..

Danny loads the bases, beans a run in then gets a triple play ;)

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2005, 04:38 PM
Danny Graves creates tension like a Tribble creates other Tribbles.

...and, ironically enough, I wouldn't be too terribly against beaming Danny Graves to a Klingon ship...

westofyou
04-24-2005, 04:39 PM
Jiminez is a piece of crap.

Hidy Ho

http://www.opposable-thumbs.com/invite98/images/hanky_animated.gif

flyer85
04-24-2005, 04:39 PM
time for the most exciting 3 outs in baseball....
that may be very optimistic

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:39 PM
ouch.

Raisor
04-24-2005, 04:40 PM
Danny Graves creates tension like a Tribble creates other Tribbles.


Tribbles, as far as Dr McCoy can tell, are born pregnent.

Just sayin

westofyou
04-24-2005, 04:40 PM
Tribbles, as far as Dr McCoy can tell, are born pregnet.

Just sayin

Hack

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:41 PM
Lowell with a deep fly out to left. 1 out.

Gainesville Red
04-24-2005, 04:41 PM
He's got a thing for getting outs at the warning track.

PuffyPig
04-24-2005, 04:41 PM
I like to play for more than 1 run.

With a 2 run lead in the 9th, playing for 1 run is just smart baseball.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:42 PM
Danny does make it interesting, doesn't he...

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:42 PM
Conine flies out to center. Cabrera coming in to pinch hit.

Chip R
04-24-2005, 04:43 PM
With a 2 run lead in the 9th, playing for 1 run is just smart baseball.I agree. Especially with Graves pitching.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 04:43 PM
With a 2 run lead in the 9th, playing for 1 run is just smart baseball.

Not in my book. I am playing for the big inning.

Edskin
04-24-2005, 04:43 PM
Danny does make it interesting, doesn't he...

Yes, if you find heart attacks interesting :)

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:44 PM
Lo Duca steals second.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:44 PM
wow... I know one umpire that seems to want to go early...

PuffyPig
04-24-2005, 04:45 PM
Lo Duca steals second.

Fielder indifference, no SB.

Little Alex
04-24-2005, 04:45 PM
ho boy....

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:45 PM
Broken bat hit for Cabrera 2-1. Lenny Harris coming in to pinch hit.

Gainesville Red
04-24-2005, 04:45 PM
C'mon, just give me one more.

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 04:46 PM
2-1

Never ever bring Graves in with a 1 run lead ;)

Trace's Daddy
04-24-2005, 04:46 PM
Here we go!

flyer85
04-24-2005, 04:46 PM
shoulda stayed with the offspeed

Gainesville Red
04-24-2005, 04:46 PM
an intresting strike zone today.

westofyou
04-24-2005, 04:46 PM
Think Danny is thinking about that Sandwich comment from 97?

Gainesville Red
04-24-2005, 04:47 PM
Harris looks like he's better off w/o the sandwich. Walks by the way, c'mon, Graves, one more, pretty please.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:47 PM
Harris walks. 1st and 2nd with 2 outs.

Edskin
04-24-2005, 04:47 PM
Never ever bring Graves in with a 1 run lead

Take off the "1 run lead" part and I agree 100%

flyer85
04-24-2005, 04:47 PM
he may walk in the a run

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 04:48 PM
Walks Lenny Harris. Good grief.

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 04:48 PM
Harris walks

Casey goes out to let Danny know what a closer is supposed to do :D

BoydsOfSummer
04-24-2005, 04:48 PM
Graves makes my chest hurt.

Walkerforpres
04-24-2005, 04:48 PM
I don't understand the 'prevent' defense by Dunn on that Cabrera hit. That ball would have been caught with normal depth in the outfield.

Edskin
04-24-2005, 04:49 PM
In all seriousness, I truly do question Miley's intelligence by insisting that Graves be the closer. It honestly baffles me.

Reds Fanatic
04-24-2005, 04:49 PM
Pierre strikes out. Reds Win 2-1!!!

Walkerforpres
04-24-2005, 04:49 PM
Reds win! Whew.

Raisor
04-24-2005, 04:49 PM
I wish I could find my ABC picture for Danny.

flyer85
04-24-2005, 04:49 PM
he has better command with the curve

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 04:50 PM
Ballgame.

Reds win!

westofyou
04-24-2005, 04:50 PM
I don't understand the 'prevent' defense by Dunn on that Cabrera hit. That ball would have been caught with normal depth in the outfield.

Coaches set the defense, Knight was good at it. This years crew not so good.

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 04:50 PM
Reds win :clap: :clap:

Do the Marlins need a closer? Graves can be had ;)

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2005, 04:50 PM
...clear!

...clear!

Alright, I'm back...

Walkerforpres
04-24-2005, 04:50 PM
Pierre has now struck out 2 times in 78 ABs. Think Dunn/Griffey/Kearns/Pena/anyone on the Reds could take a hint? :)

CincyRedsFan30
04-24-2005, 04:50 PM
Graves is just money! ;)

flyer85
04-24-2005, 04:50 PM
In all seriousness, I truly do question Miley's intelligence by insisting that Graves be the closer. It honestly baffles me.I would agree if you could be sure Graves wouldn't be the setup man

Trace's Daddy
04-24-2005, 04:51 PM
Good pitching --> up until Graves. :)

RedSchmo2
04-24-2005, 04:52 PM
Graves has to go from the Closer's role. He does not have closer's stuff and he has completely lost his control from the pre-Starter days.

Great job by Claussen! That is the good news amongst a lot of bad this weekend.

Reds Nd2
04-24-2005, 04:53 PM
Of course, If Jimenez hits a SF, it would have been a good move.

It would have been a miracle. He's had 10 SF's for his career. A career .382 SLG combined with a career 1.31 G/F ratio makes the chances of D'Lo hitting a sac fly rather remote.

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 04:54 PM
Pierre has now struck out 2 times in 78 ABs. Think Dunn/Griffey/Kearns/Pena/anyone on the Reds could take a hint? :)

They should ground out instead? ;)

PuffyPig
04-24-2005, 04:56 PM
One thing I noticed today was that Graves' stuff was much better. He really didn't throw up much in the way of hittable pitches. Cabrerra's single was on a very good pitch, and Carerra was lucky to get a hit on it.

Who would have thought that Graves could strike out Pierre to end the game. A non- strike -out pitcher gets the leagues hardest batter to K on 3 straight unhittable pitches.

While the results show that Graves gave up his customary 1 run when he could, I think that he got there in a different way.

He looked better than any game this season.

adampad
04-24-2005, 04:56 PM
Did Pierre swing at a bad pitch?

Kc61
04-24-2005, 04:56 PM
Graves, right now, is not the problem. The offense is.

ramp101
04-24-2005, 04:57 PM
It's nearly impossible to strike out JP, that was flat out wicked by Graves

good win for you guys today... kept our bats at bay

that wasnt supposed to rhyme

SYCMiniBus
04-24-2005, 05:04 PM
Graves has shown a very good to great curve this season. The problem is he can not locate his "sinker". Not only can he not locate it, but it doesnt move. He is throwing a sinker that doesn't sink. I do not have a super slow mo TV or a good angle so I do not know if he is not getting on top of the ball or what the problem is. But I would imagine that at some point that sinker will start to sink again. That being said it is tough to do better then 7 for 7.

CincyRedsFan30
04-24-2005, 05:05 PM
A few things to watch for at Wrigley Field when it comes to this slumping offense breaking out:

# 1: Kearns has hit 4 HR there... his highest non-GABP total

# 2: Dunn has 8 HR in 90 AB there

# 3: Aurilia has hit pretty well there

Walkerforpres
04-24-2005, 05:05 PM
One thing I noticed today was that Graves' stuff was much better. He really didn't throw up much in the way of hittable pitches. Cabrerra's single was on a very good pitch, and Carerra was lucky to get a hit on it.

Who would have thought that Graves could strike out Pierre to end the game. A non- strike -out pitcher gets the leagues hardest batter to K on 3 straight unhittable pitches.

He looked better than any game this season.

I agree. I was saying to no one in particular that Graves' stuff looked better than it had at any point this year by miles. He was throwing some nasty stuff to Lowell and Cabrera.

Puffy
04-24-2005, 05:14 PM
He looked better than any game this season.

You mean besides the two walks?

Chip R
04-24-2005, 05:24 PM
You mean besides the two walks?Wagner walked a couple guys today too, no?

Mutaman
04-24-2005, 05:24 PM
Why waste an out with LaRue? Dumb move by Miley, imo.

Yesterday somebody complained about Miley not bunting when he was down 4-0. Today somebody complains when he bunts in an obvious sacrifice situation. In both cases the posters were so adament that they were right that they called Miley stupid and dumb for not following their second guess. No comment.

KronoRed
04-24-2005, 05:25 PM
Wagner walked a couple guys today too, no?

Well yeah, but Wagner has those cool socks ;)

Bobcat J
04-24-2005, 05:25 PM
Wagner walked a couple guys today too, no?

Wagner walked only 1 in 2 innings. It was his first BB of the season.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2005, 05:27 PM
Yesterday somebody complained about Miley not bunting when he was down 4-0. Today somebody complains when he bunts in an obvious sacrifice situation. In both cases the posters were so adament that they were right that they called Miley stupid and dumb for not following their second guess. No comment.

I would have still disagreed with the move, even if Jimenez hit a sac fly. I would rather play for more than just the one run.

westofyou
04-24-2005, 05:28 PM
Wagner walked only 1 in 2 innings.

And he threw a larger percentage of strikes and he had a 6-0 GB-FB ration (pretty good for a K pitcher) Graves on the other hand had 2 FO's and a K

Pitches - K's
R Wagner 20-13;
D Graves 30-16;