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KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:21 PM
Anyone remember that Jim Mora interview about the Saints a few years ago? Like to hear that from Miley ;)

RFS62
05-06-2005, 09:21 PM
Spinks was scared completely to death before the bell rang for round one. He looked like he was ready to cry.

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:23 PM
Anyone remember that Jim Mora interview about the Saints a few years ago? Like to hear that from Miley ;)


PLAYOFFS!?!?!?!

PuffyPig
05-06-2005, 09:23 PM
Over the last 7 innings, the Reds relievers have given up only 3 runs. Hey, that's a quality start.

Of course, if your relievers pitch 8 innings by the end of the 8th, you've got some problems.

SandyD
05-06-2005, 09:26 PM
Anyone remember that Jim Mora interview about the Saints a few years ago? Like to hear that from Miley ;)

The coulda, woulda, shoulda speech? That was something like a decade ago, I think.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 09:26 PM
Rich Aurilia with a doub...er, single.

M2
05-06-2005, 09:27 PM
Clone Ryan Wagner.

TeamCasey
05-06-2005, 09:27 PM
Is the Ump drinking now?

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:28 PM
Geez, that's a tough one. Reds/Dodgers?
Even the Losers... get lucky sometimes.

http://wepner.homestead.com/files/chuck2.jpg

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:28 PM
The coulda, woulda, shoulda speech? That was something like a decade ago, I think.

The one where he said Diddly Poo a lot

I found it :D

RFS62
05-06-2005, 09:28 PM
Why the hell isn't Miley out of the dugout flipping out after that call???

Light a freakin' fire, dammit!!!!

This strong, silent crap isn't playing.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 09:29 PM
You gotta come out and argue that! I mean, argue and cuss until they are forced to toss you! Just on principle!

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:29 PM
He was like 2 feet from the bag..that was terrible ump..we can lose on our own.

SteelSD
05-06-2005, 09:29 PM
Spinks was scared completely to death before the bell rang for round one. He looked like he was ready to cry.

And it wasn't that he was scared he was going to be knocked out. You could tell just by looking at him that he KNEW he was gonna' go down.

He was afraid of being killed.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:29 PM
Why the hell isn't Miley out of the dugout flipping out after that call???

He just made a great deal on his auto insurance with Geico though.

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:30 PM
Kearns :clap::clap:

Hey Miley..start him and get Aurilia on the bench

OnBaseMachine
05-06-2005, 09:31 PM
Nice job Kearnsie!

He'll be back on the bench tomorrow. ;)

PuffyPig
05-06-2005, 09:33 PM
We're not as bad as we look.

We're not as bad as we look.

We're not as bad as we look.

There, I feel better.

But you know, we really aren't as bad as we look.

TeamBoone
05-06-2005, 09:34 PM
Why the hell isn't Miley out of the dugout flipping out after that call???

Light a freakin' fire, dammit!!!!

This strong, silent crap isn't playing.

I thought they said he did come out and argue!

I still can't get over that blatant call. I don't care how far the Reds are down, that was ridiculous. That ump should be fired.

Austin's HR would have been 3 instead of 2, except for that.

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:35 PM
But you know, we really aren't as bad as we look.

The Reds can't possibly be as good as I look:

(Cue Puffy with the picture..)

BCubb2003
05-06-2005, 09:37 PM
Anyone remember that Jim Mora interview about the Saints a few years ago? Like to hear that from Miley ;)

"The Saints ain't good enough. It's that simple. We're close and close don't mean (expletive). I'm tired of coming close and we're going to work our butts off till we ain't close anymore. We've got a long way to go to be a football team that even thinks about being a contender. Even thinks about it. ...

"The New Orleans Saints haven't had a winning season in 21 years. This has been the worst franchise in the history of the National Football League ... for 21 years. That's ridiculous.

I'm (expletive) off right now. You bet your (expletive) I am. I'm sick of coulda, woulda, shoulda, coming close, if only."

M2
05-06-2005, 09:37 PM
And it wasn't that he was scared he was going to be knocked out. You could tell just by looking at him that he KNEW he was gonna' go down.

He was afraid of being killed.

But Frazier looked like he was killed once Tyson connected.

In separate news, Matt Clement's on his way to 4-0, 3.35.

PuffyPig
05-06-2005, 09:38 PM
The Reds can't possibly be as good as I look:



Hey, the New England Patriots aren't as good as you look.

SandyD
05-06-2005, 09:38 PM
there was a hitless game in the HS baseball qtr finals last night. Only run scored a batter walked, went to third on an error by the outfielder, and stole home with the pitcher threw to first to hold the runner.

Neither team had a hit.

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:39 PM
Big inning comback...14-13 final score

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:39 PM
Funny how Dunn keeps ending up on base in front of those "professional hitters"

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:40 PM
Hey, the New England Patriots aren't as good as you look.


Darn Tootin.

:pimp:

M2
05-06-2005, 09:40 PM
D.J. Houlton will rue the day he first tossed a tennis ball with his father after today's beating. Scarred for life he is.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:40 PM
BTW

I'm Spartacus

http://www.meredy.com/kirkdouglas/spartacus.jpg

SteelSD
05-06-2005, 09:41 PM
But Frazier looked like he was killed once Tyson connected.

In separate news, Matt Clement's on his 4-0, 3.35.

Yeah. For pure unbridled brutality, the Frazier fight takes it. But the Spinks fight was just domination on all levels. That kid knew he shouldn't be anywhere near that ring.

And your separate news is unsurprising.;)

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:41 PM
BTW

I'm Spartacus




Put some pants on.

Where's the McGriddle Girl?????

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:41 PM
"The Saints ain't good enough. It's that simple. We're close and close don't mean (expletive). I'm tired of coming close and we're going to work our butts off till we ain't close anymore. We've got a long way to go to be a football team that even thinks about being a contender. Even thinks about it. ...

"The New Orleans Saints haven't had a winning season in 21 years. This has been the worst franchise in the history of the National Football League ... for 21 years. That's ridiculous.

I'm (expletive) off right now. You bet your (expletive) I am. I'm sick of coulda, woulda, shoulda, coming close, if only."

Thanks BCubb :lol:

PuffyPig
05-06-2005, 09:42 PM
I still can't get over that blatant call. I don't care how far the Reds are down, that was ridiculous. That ump should be fired.



WIth the runner coming into second trying to break up the DP, they'll call the runner out in that situation 100 times out of 100 times. If you look at the slow mo, it looks like he actually may have had his foot on the bag. But, if he removes his foot a little early, they'll always call him out. It's only if the throw clearly brings him off the bag do they call him safe.

SteelSD
05-06-2005, 09:42 PM
And in other unsurprising news, the fans are booing Graves mercilessly.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:43 PM
"Danny Graves is not well liked." said Willy Loman to his oldest son Biff.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:45 PM
George Grande is an enabler.

Just Sayin.

MWM
05-06-2005, 09:45 PM
Danny has to be counting the days when he doesn't have to play in Cincinnati anymore. But so am I.

How much you think Graves will get next year? I say someone will pay him $3-$4MM rane.

RFS62
05-06-2005, 09:45 PM
Wonder if Gravy will have anything else to say to the press about the boos?

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:45 PM
Danny has to be counting the days when he doesn't have to play in Cincinnati anymore. But so am I.

Danny "Abacus" Graves

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:45 PM
Call the Cubs and offer Graves for a piece of pie.

TeamBoone
05-06-2005, 09:46 PM
WIth the runner coming into second trying to break up the DP, they'll call the runner out in that situation 100 times out of 100 times. If you look at the slow mo, it looks like he actually may have had his foot on the bag. But, if he removes his foot a little early, they'll always call him out. It's only if the throw clearly brings him off the bag do they call him safe.

I watched the replay, Puffy. The throw pulled him 2 feet off the bag!

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:46 PM
Danny has to be counting the days when he doesn't have to play in Cincinnati anymore. But so am I.

How much you think Graves will get next year? I say someone will pay him $3-$4MM rane.


I don't like Danny Graves' hair.

If he had shorter hair, I bet he'd be a better pitcher.

RFS62
05-06-2005, 09:47 PM
Wow, George and Chris making me want to puke.

SteelSD
05-06-2005, 09:47 PM
Happy Gilmore hitting.

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:47 PM
Call the Cubs and offer Graves for a piece of pie.

see how it all comes back to pie?

Pie, is good.

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:48 PM
Happy Gilmore hitting.

I like the Gilmore Girls. I don't like Happy Gilmore.

I really like eating pie while watching the Gilmore Girls.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:49 PM
Wow, George and Chris making me want to puke.


Typical press from the local annoucers, more interested in "Friends and Family" then in calling a spade a spade.

Gawd they lay it on thick.

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:49 PM
I got cake right now..we should take cake for Graves as well

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:49 PM
I like the Gilmore Girls. I don't like Happy Gilmore.

I really like eating pie while watching the Gilmore Girls.

Been a long time since I had sweet thistle pie.

OnBaseMachine
05-06-2005, 09:49 PM
Call the Cubs and offer Graves for a piece of pie.

The Cubs have a prospect named Felix Pie.

SandyD
05-06-2005, 09:50 PM
And I have to go face a room full of baseball folks who'll think I'm nuts when I tell them the Reds are my team.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 09:50 PM
see how it all comes back to pie?

Pie, is good.

Depends on the pie...

Rhubarb & Mincemeat = bad
Lemon Merangue & Key Lime = ehh...
Apple, cherry, pumpkin, peach, banana creme, coconut creme = GOOD!

At this point, I would settle for a piece of rhubarb pie for Graves.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:51 PM
On mothers day all woman over the age of FIFTEEN get a gift at the GAB.

I find that funny.

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:51 PM
The Cubs have a prospect named Felix Pie.


I bet there's a joke there someplace.

RFS62
05-06-2005, 09:51 PM
Ya know, I'm all for the closer mentality of turning the page and forgetting your bad outings, unless you SUCK with stunning regularity!!!

Graves would do his reputation a lot of good if he'd go over and beat the water cooler with a bat after nights like Monday.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 09:52 PM
Chris is polishing the turd.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 09:53 PM
Speaking of which, is Carlos Perez available? :D

RFS62
05-06-2005, 09:53 PM
Chris is polishing the turd.


Boy, is he ever.

MWM
05-06-2005, 09:53 PM
The sad thing about this season is that it will result in the cutting of payroll NEXT year. And Graves coming off the books won't make much difference when considering arbitration raises. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Dunn traded THIS offseason.

Raisor
05-06-2005, 09:54 PM
Depends on the pie...

Rhubarb & Mincemeat = bad
At this point, I would settle for a piece of rhubarb pie for Graves.

nothing gets the taste of fear and humiliation out of your mouth like Beebopareebop Rhubarb Pie.


But one little thing can revive a guy,
And that is a piece of rhubarb pie.
Serve it up, nice and hot.
Maybe things aren't as bad as you thought.

Mama's little baby loves rhubarb, rhubarb,
Beebopareebop Rhubarb Pie.
Mama's little baby loves rhubarb, rhubarb,
Beebopareebop Rhubarb Pie.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 09:56 PM
nothing gets the taste of fear and humiliation out of your mouth like Beebopareebop Rhubarb Pie.


But one little thing can revive a guy,
And that is a piece of rhubarb pie.
Serve it up, nice and hot.
Maybe things aren't as bad as you thought.

Mama's little baby loves rhubarb, rhubarb,
Beebopareebop Rhubarb Pie.
Mama's little baby loves rhubarb, rhubarb,
Beebopareebop Rhubarb Pie.

I knew that would get you going! :) Do I get credited with an assist for setting you up like that?

M2
05-06-2005, 09:56 PM
Chris is polishing the turd.

He's just trying to make it pulchrifecal.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 09:58 PM
Felipe Lopez must play every day.

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 09:58 PM
Life from the Reds :)

SteelSD
05-06-2005, 09:59 PM
Felipe Lopez has done absolutely nothing but play good baseball so far this season.

So what's Miley's take? "Gee...can't replace Aurilia. He's a VET. So let's put him at 2B instead of having him take over the SS position."

<Throws up hands>

<Walks away>

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 10:00 PM
Wilson Alvarez is still in the league?!?!

Wow

westofyou
05-06-2005, 10:01 PM
<Throws up hands>

<Walks away>

Looks back yells something, spits..

<Throws up hands>

<Walks away>

BCubb2003
05-06-2005, 10:01 PM
The final score: Wilson 8, offense 5, bullpen 5

SteelSD
05-06-2005, 10:01 PM
Ah. Casey grounds out to SS this time.

What a nice change.

TeamBoone
05-06-2005, 10:02 PM
Well, if not for the first inning they just might have won this one.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 10:02 PM
Ah. Casey grounds out to SS this time.

What a nice change.

The man is boosting SS and 2nd baseman's assists numbers across the league.

KronoRed
05-06-2005, 10:03 PM
We at least showed some life.

westofyou
05-06-2005, 10:03 PM
Well, if not for the first inning they just might have won this one.

And if they hadn't resigned Wilson we might have won too.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 10:04 PM
Steel,

I agree. Lopez should be at SS. Aurilia should be at 2B--actually, I think he could be serviceable as a right-handed PH with some pop and a utility man available to play all four infield positions. But he should NEVER take playing time at SS from FeLo, ESPECIALLY when both are in the lineup at the same time!

TeamBoone
05-06-2005, 10:04 PM
Time to go watch Numbers.

M2
05-06-2005, 10:05 PM
Watching the Sox-Mariners at the moment. I just learned the proper pronounciation of J.J. Putz's last name is Poots and not Putts. Who knew?

Also, Red Sox fans boo Bret Boone for his poor choice in fraternal relations.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 10:07 PM
Jim Day (is that his name?) is freakin' annoying.

SteelSD
05-06-2005, 10:07 PM
Steel,

I agree. Lopez should be at SS. Aurilia should be at 2B--actually, I think he could be serviceable as a right-handed PH with some pop and a utility man available to play all four infield positions. But he should NEVER take playing time at SS from FeLo, ESPECIALLY when both are in the lineup at the same time!

I don't want Aurilia anywhere near this team if he's going to get anything over 100 PA in a season.

As for 2B, I see where you're coming from, but I want nothing to do with Aurilia having to throw across his body.

He's done and has been for some time.

Big Klu
05-06-2005, 10:10 PM
I don't want Aurilia anywhere near this team if he's going to get anything over 100 PA in a season.

As for 2B, I see where you're coming from, but I want nothing to do with Aurilia having to throw across his body.

He's done and has been for some time.

I don't disagree with you. I was just one of many who was duped into thinking that Aurilia was signed as an upgrade to Juan Castro. I didn't think he would actually take PT from FeLo.

RFS62
05-06-2005, 10:13 PM
The Aurilia signing didn't bother me a bit until it became obvious that he was going to be in the starting lineup.

M2
05-06-2005, 10:13 PM
I don't disagree with you. I was just one of many who was duped into thinking that Aurilia was signed as an upgrade to Juan Castro. I didn't think he would actually take PT from FeLo.

IMO, the Reds handed him the job the day he signed with them. They built him up in the two weeks prior to the first ST game and it didn't matter that Felipe outplayed him in Florida and so far it doesn't matter that Felipe's blowing him away in real games.

Kc61
05-06-2005, 10:22 PM
I don't want Aurilia anywhere near this team if he's going to get anything over 100 PA in a season.

As for 2B, I see where you're coming from, but I want nothing to do with Aurilia having to throw across his body.

He's done and has been for some time.

Really, with this pitching does Aurilia really matter? They could play Hector Tiburcio or Alex Rodriguez at shortstop and it wouldn't matter. Never saw pitching like this. Unreal.

TRF
05-06-2005, 10:52 PM
KC, it matters because if the current FO gets a clue, or a new one comes in, FeLo will have developed into the everyday SS this team needs.

<climbs clocktower>

<looks for binder>

i love adding to a good joke.

TRF
05-06-2005, 10:56 PM
I like the Gilmore Girls. I don't like Happy Gilmore.

I really like eating pie while watching the Gilmore Girls.

How can anyone not like Happy Gilmore.

That alligator should have won an oscar.

Kc61
05-06-2005, 10:58 PM
KC, it matters because if the current FO gets a clue, or a new one comes in, FeLo will have developed into the everyday SS this team needs.

<climbs clocktower>

<looks for binder>

i love adding to a good joke.

By the time this FO gets a clue, FeLo will be retired.

SunDeck
05-06-2005, 11:00 PM
Bright spot, here.
My wife just walked in and I told her that Wilson gave up 8 runs before getting an out and that they lost 13-3. She said,
"Well, I guess that's pretty good. They could of lost by, like, 48."
My little speck of sunshine. My little, clueless about baseball speck of sunshine. God love 'er.

SirFelixCat
05-06-2005, 11:05 PM
:cry: :barf::laugh:

traderumor
05-06-2005, 11:07 PM
I don't disagree with you. I was just one of many who was duped into thinking that Aurilia was signed as an upgrade to Juan Castro. I didn't think he would actually take PT from FeLo.Now he's taking away PT from Kearns. Yea, Aurilia instead of Kearns. Obviously, with the putrid pitching it wouldn't matter, but there is no excuse for continuing to play Aurilia in anything but a backup role.

RosieRed
05-06-2005, 11:11 PM
IMO, the Reds handed him the job the day he signed with them. They built him up in the two weeks prior to the first ST game and it didn't matter that Felipe outplayed him in Florida and so far it doesn't matter that Felipe's blowing him away in real games.

I'll trot these stats out any chance I get:

Lopez: .308/.357/.590
(39 ABs)

Aurilia: .224/.256/.400
(85 ABs)

Both have 3 HRs, and Aurilia (12) has one more RBI than Lopez (11).

KittyDuran
05-06-2005, 11:54 PM
Well, got back from the game about an hour ago. Yep, stayed for the whole shabang... :( Until Freel got the hit I was kinda hoping for Penny to pitch a no-hitter :devil: since I've never seen one. Nothing more to add - really a shame because it was a good crowd tonight. Will be back tomorrow afternoon, then got tickets for Sunday's game today.

KronoRed
05-07-2005, 12:40 AM
You're a true fan Kitty ;)

WVRedsFan
05-07-2005, 01:33 AM
At the risk of losing rep, I have to admit that Miley is not the main problem. The organization is. It seems they have a defeatist attitude. Some examples:

1. We need pitching and they go after fly ball pitchers who give up the long fly.
2. They continue to trot Danny Graves out to close when most everyone in the universe (outside of some fans who love Gravy) says he is not a closer.
3. They continue to persue a "Pitch to Contact" system that works well with kids who can throw 95 mph when they only have 88 mph pitchers.
4. Instead of taking positive action to stop what is obviously a lost season, they make one move--bring in a minor league pitcher who, curiously enough, showed less than 90 on the radar gun all night. And he pitches to contact--long contact.

Then, there's our boy Dave. You know, the guy who "paid his dues" in the minors for about 100 years.

1. He plays Jiminez forever at 2B, lets this slow runner leadoff and takes his time to bench him as we lose and lose and lose.
2. He plays Rich A. at SS with statistics that just spell "over the hill" while the younger SS of the future sits on the bench with better numbers (including fielding--well, relatively speaking).
3. He leaves Ryan Freel, much faster and more enthusiastic, out of the lineup for so long even though his numbers are better.
4. He plays WMP only sparsely even though he is burning up left handed pitching.
5. He continues with a rotation of relievers that include Belisle, Weathers, Weber, Wagner, and Graves, regardless of the situation.
6. Values veteran players over young players for whatever reason as we lose, lose, lose.

Folks, this is a prescription for disaster (as we know) that must be headed off soon. It won't and the season will be the disaster, but it's baseball and better than most everything out there. Trouble is, I'd like to win one of three instead of none of three.

And I don't see a solution on the horizon. I'm losing hope.

SandyD
05-07-2005, 01:59 AM
The Aurilia signing didn't bother me a bit until it became obvious that he was going to be in the starting lineup.

Yep ... exactly how I felt. I thought he was signed as b/u.

I agree Lopez needs to play regularly to show what he can do. Hopefully get over his throwing problems.

But I have to wonder if the organization has given up on FeLo and plans to look elsewhere for a long term solution. And that's why they brought in RA. Stopgap.

GAC
05-07-2005, 05:21 AM
We've gone into our prevent offense, I see.

Thank you. Reading through this thread at various humorous posts, and after going to bed in the 3rd inning (wasn't gonna waste a good night's sleep on these ignats), I needed to hear some humor. We need to maintain that right now fellow Red fans. I was tired, and was hoping a nightmare involving Roseanne Barr in a speedo eating a hot fudge sundae while riding my mower, would wash away the nightmare I was witnessing on that field.

Purely pathetic display of baseball ineptness.

This team is gonna have to turn it around just to be lousey.

I hope Miley doesn't get fired. That's too easy on him. He needs to get a taste of what hell is. ;)

KittyDuran
05-07-2005, 07:59 AM
Yep ... exactly how I felt. I thought he was signed as b/u.

I agree Lopez needs to play regularly to show what he can do. Hopefully get over his throwing problems.

But I have to wonder if the organization has given up on FeLo and plans to look elsewhere for a long term solution. And that's why they brought in RA. Stopgap.AND that's exactly how I felt. As much as people revel in FeLo's capabilities (offensive/defensive) - his erratic throwing is scary at times. BTW, I felt the same way about Aaron Boone at 3rd. I've stated this before, but I believe that the FO thinks that both RA and FeLo are temporary measures at SS. Remember who's shoes that are filling - and I I think the FO is looking for another Larkin. RA and FeLo combined don't come close... :(

membengal
05-07-2005, 08:43 AM
Well, he out Austin'd Jeff Austin's performance a few years ago.

Reading through the first few pages of this thread was nice therapy.

Boss, thanks for the above reminder.

My story on that game. Drove the family up from Memphis for the weekend. Daughter excited (her first game, she was 7), 1-year-old in tow. Seats down the line in right, get there early for BP and to walk the new stadum. Settle into our seats to "enjoy the game" and Jeff Austin got no one out. As painful a game as I have been at in my lifetime by far. Punctuated by my 7-year-old asking if the Reds were ever going to be allowed to hit.

Anyway, I thankfully missed last night's carnage because I was outside in the back yard pitching to my now 9-year-old and 3-year old. Figured I would miss at most an inning or two. Came in to get a beverage and check the score at the exact moment a friend of mine (Cards fan) calls to ask if it is really 7-0 with no outs in the first like he just heard on the radio.

Sigh.

westofyou
05-07-2005, 09:57 AM
his erratic throwing is scary at times.

Time to make a choice.

A. Maybe lose some runners/games with an erratic arm

B. Lose games with a no range, slow, low OB SS. night after night.

Me?

I'll gamble that the throws cause less pain then all the other aspects of the game that get upgraded.

Spring~Fields
05-07-2005, 10:07 AM
:roll:
(wasn't gonna waste a good night's sleep on these ignats), I needed to hear some humor. We need to maintain that right now fellow Red fans. I was tired, and was hoping a nightmare involving Roseanne Barr in a speedo eating a hot fudge sundae while riding my mower, would wash away the nightmare I was witnessing on that field.

:roll: as the man said, "that's funny stuff right there" gettr done. GAC has seen the light....... :evil: