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schroomytunes
05-07-2005, 11:02 PM
O.K. we have the sunday night game on ESPN. Milton's going against Weaver, we may have a chance to win 2 in a row.Would be really nice to see a sell-out here and give the boys a boost before the Pads come in. Also.it shows Lindner that even though times are tough the fans are still here. Maybe ol Carl will then force DanO to do something other than a simple roster move. I think the lineup should be;
1)Jimenez
2)Lopez
3)casey
4)Dunn
5)griffey
6)kearns
7)randa
8)larue
I think we should stick to this lineup until wily mo gets back,its the best we got and use Freel to give guys days off(miley's super sub).

OldRightHander
05-07-2005, 11:05 PM
I'm hoping for a good crowd as well. I'm taking my mother, our little tradition every year for mother's day. Hopefully Milton can keep the ball in the park tomorrow night and the offense can get it going again.

CTA513
05-07-2005, 11:24 PM
If Milton pitches inside and keeps the ball down we will have a chance. He didnt that his last start and went 6 innings gave up 5 hits and 1 run. I hope he can do the same or better on sunday.

schroomytunes
05-07-2005, 11:29 PM
Make as much noise as you can! we need to show the boys at ESPN we dont care about how much you pick on our staff, we love our REDS! Have Fun my man, wish I was there! :beerme:

schroomytunes
05-07-2005, 11:30 PM
now pass the peanuts......and the beer!

fisch11
05-08-2005, 02:15 AM
I'll be in Primetime....I'm 2-0 this season at games!

OnBaseMachine
05-08-2005, 02:26 AM
Dunn has hit six of his eight homeruns this year in games televised by ESPN. Let's hope he can continue that trend and hit about two more Sunday night.

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 02:32 AM
Dunn probably doesn't like the fact that he doesn't get the attention he deserves on ESPN, which makes him extra motivated for the games on their network.

schroomytunes
05-08-2005, 02:39 AM
Dunn is going to have a helluva game tomorrow, I can feel it. I'm also gonna go out on a limb and predict Milton does too. Let's give the boys in the pen a much needed rest!

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 10:59 AM
Dunn probably doesn't like the fact that he doesn't get the attention he deserves on ESPN, which makes him extra motivated for the games on their network.

I don't think Adam Dunn cares about ESPN exposure. He's never come across as that kind of person.

fisch11
05-08-2005, 12:36 PM
Let's hope this isn't going to be the Mother's Day Massacre part II. I think we get a winning streak rolling to get back to .500!

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 01:44 PM
I was actually being a bit sarcastic, I just forgot to use the ;)

PuffyPig
05-08-2005, 04:34 PM
Dunn probably doesn't like the fact that he doesn't get the attention he deserves on ESPN, which makes him extra motivated for the games on their network.

I'm betting on the coincidence of a small sample size.

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 04:36 PM
As I said before, I was just being sarcastic. Sorry for any confusion.

reds44
05-08-2005, 06:02 PM
Guess what?


WE CAN WIN A SERIES TODAY!


YEA

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 06:42 PM
This thing better not be blacked out locally, because the Reds website isn't listing any TV coverage

I'll be mad!!

Eric_Davis
05-08-2005, 06:59 PM
Win a series against one of the three best teams in the league, and get things going.

Milton gets win #3 tonight on his way to a 16-win season.

6-4-3
05-08-2005, 07:01 PM
The crowds for this series have been decent, if you factor in the 7-game skid entering the series. Hopefully a crowd of 30,000 for Sunday Night Baseball.

reds44
05-08-2005, 07:04 PM
This thing better not be blacked out locally, because the Reds website isn't listing any TV coverage

I'll be mad!!

It wont be, its National TV

Gainesville Red
05-08-2005, 07:12 PM
It's gonna be great, today's been so long. It needs to be 8 o'clock a little faster, don't you think?

flyer85
05-08-2005, 07:34 PM
I don't think Adam Dunn cares about ESPN exposure. He's never come across as that kind of person.If you read on one of the blogs recent interview with Lancaster where they talked about what the players were like that would seem to be true. Lancaster's main point about Dunn was that he is not defined by baseball and caught up in the trappings that come with it. Very interesting read

Caveat Emperor
05-08-2005, 07:37 PM
Well, I'm heading down to the GABP tonight for my second game of the year. I figured my attending yesterday did the team some good, so we'll see if we can't make it 2 for 2. :beerme:

flyer85
05-08-2005, 07:46 PM
I feel better ... Aurilia is back in the lineup.

Freel
Lopez
Casey
Jr
Dunn
Randa
Aurilia
Larue

Miley is officially developmentally disabled

Falls City Beer
05-08-2005, 07:51 PM
I feel better ... Aurilia is back in the lineup.

Freel
Lopez
Casey
Jr
Dunn
Randa
Aurilia
Larue

Miley is officially developmentally disabled

That lineup absolutely blows corn. Casey and Junior are like collapsing stars, even light cannot escape.

NCRed
05-08-2005, 07:53 PM
Thats it/ Kearns is just not valued by this coaching staff (*unless there is an injury we dont know about). Basically now we have Aurilia playing in front of Kearns. Why oh Why must this be.

OnBaseMachine
05-08-2005, 07:53 PM
:rolleyes:

Aurilia over Kearns is a joke.

My lineup:

Freel
Kearns
Dunn
Griffey
Randa
Casey
Lopez
LaRue

or

Freel
Dunn
Griffey
Kearns
Casey
Randa
Lopez
LaRue

Golgafrinchan
05-08-2005, 07:53 PM
Jimenez enters the game yesterday and goes 3-for-3 with two doubles.

Miley responds by sitting him on the bench in favor of the rotting corpse of Rich Aurilia.

Unreal.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 07:54 PM
That lineup absolutely blows corn. Casey and Junior are like collapsing stars, even light cannot escape.

You mean the 11 game hitting streak Junior?

flyer85
05-08-2005, 07:59 PM
You mean the 11 game hitting streak Junior?the Jr with the .730 OPS maybe. Of course Casey is checking in at .670

PickOff
05-08-2005, 08:00 PM
Jimenez enters the game yesterday and goes 3-for-3 with two doubles.

Miley responds by sitting him on the bench in favor of the rotting corpse of Rich Aurilia.

Unreal.

I'm sure Miley would remind you that Jimenez accomplished that feat coming off the bench, and Kearns as well for that matter. Clearly that is where they feel most comfortable. ;)

Walkerforpres
05-08-2005, 08:04 PM
Puke. x 2. That's awful for a nationally televised game. Isn't the idea to get your BEST players showcased for a national audience? Aurilia over Kearns is pure rubbish.

Of course if they win 9-2 we'll be too happy to bother with the details.

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 08:06 PM
Just amazing. I thought Miley had finally figured it out, but obviously not.

Why is Kearns not playing and Aurilia is?

Apparently Pena/Kearns are both out of his favor now.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 08:09 PM
Just amazing. I thought Miley had finally figured it out, but obviously not.

Why is Kearns not playing and Aurilia is?

Apparently Pena/Kearns are both out of his favor now.

Pena should be on the DL if his quad is still acting up...this organization playing short handed time and time again baffles me

westofyou
05-08-2005, 08:10 PM
the Jr with the .730 OPS maybe. Of course Casey is checking in at .670

Sean Casey 18.75% of his hits are EBH, I wish he was fast.

Ryan Freel in RF to put Kearns on the Bench vs Weaver is a shame (I'm assuming Pena is still hurting)

Lopez at 2nd now means we have 3 2nd baseman and 1Aurilia and 5 OF's and 1 Aurilia.

I think we have too many Aurlia's IMO.

6-4-3
05-08-2005, 08:12 PM
Kearns is simply being prohibited from "getting it going" and that is sad.

OnBaseMachine
05-08-2005, 08:15 PM
It's quite obvious that this organization doesn't like Kearns. Shame.

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 08:15 PM
Pena should be on the DL if his quad is still acting up...this organization playing short handed time and time again baffles me

I agree.

They did it all year last year as O'Brien chuckled his head off about it and they are doing it again this year.

BrooklynRedz
05-08-2005, 08:18 PM
I fail to see the logic in not DL-ing Pena, even if there is the possibility he will not require the full 15 days.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 08:23 PM
This went on when Bowden was the manager, players being hurt but not being DLd...after a week it's time to make that move :rant:

It some way to save money? :help:

westofyou
05-08-2005, 08:26 PM
It's quite obvious that this organization doesn't like Kearns. Shame.

Nah, it's obvious that Dave thinks that Vets are the way to go and that his "shuffling" of the lineup and the insertion of "speed" at the top has a greater cache over speed at the top and Kearns in the middle.

Freel officially has the worst RF arm in baseball, it might take a couple of guys taking bases from him for that to sink in.

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 08:26 PM
Jeff Weaver has given up 55 fly balls and 39 ground balls this year, so I'm hoping our power hitters can get hit some pitches out against him. (Even though he has given up two HR in 36.2 IP this year). It would seem GABP would be the place where he might have a rough night if he pitches like he normally does in allowing FB.

schroomytunes
05-08-2005, 08:26 PM
This is crazy. Kearns and D'Lo had awesome games yesterday and Miley for all his wisdom decides not to start them. Why oh why! does he continue to follow in the footsteps of Bob Boone?

Gainesville Red
05-08-2005, 08:32 PM
I don't know what to say, not the line-up I was looking for.

pedro
05-08-2005, 08:36 PM
Miley must be insane.

Or the Reds are seriously shopping Kearns and don't want to get him hurt.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 08:38 PM
I think they are shopping him..for middle relief help probably :bang:

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 08:40 PM
Sad, but go Reds :)

TRF
05-08-2005, 08:52 PM
Hey SC, PBS (one of my many jobs) is running a sspecial on Tornadoes in the Texas Panhandle.

You are gonna love it here in June!

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 08:54 PM
Hey SC, PBS (one of my many jobs) is running a sspecial on Tornadoes in the Texas Panhandle.

You are gonna love it here in June!\


Yay, I can't wait. :thumbdown

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 08:55 PM
\


Yay, I can't wait. :thumbdown

Ahh... "you say :thumbdown , I say :thumbup: , :thumbup: :thumbup: , I don't know why you say :thumbdown I say :thumbup: "

OK, I had to do that. ;)

TRF
05-08-2005, 09:00 PM
3 years ago, Happy Texas was all but wiped out.

kinda like the reds rotation.

and now back to your regularly scheduled game thread.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 09:09 PM
I love seeing the hometown team on national TV :)

(Reds or Bengals)

KySteveH
05-08-2005, 09:12 PM
Is Mike Edwards the same Mike Edwards that was in the Reds org a couple (few) years back? Think he made it as high as Louisville in 2002 perhaps.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 09:14 PM
Is Mike Edwards the same Mike Edwards that was in the Reds org a couple (few) years back? Think he made it as high as Louisville in 2002 perhaps.

Yep

KySteveH
05-08-2005, 09:16 PM
Holy Cow, did I just see Junior wearing short sleeves???!!! It's like seeing Michael Tucker without the turtleneck!

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 09:23 PM
Casey's mom is in the crowd :thumbup:

KySteveH
05-08-2005, 09:28 PM
Casey's mom is in the crowd :thumbup:

The did a short piece where she spoke from her home about "Sean-y".

flyer85
05-08-2005, 09:39 PM
having to watch RA is making me feel ill.

flyer85
05-08-2005, 09:44 PM
I have a title for the 2005 Reds - "Dumb and Dumber"

RedsIn07
05-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Freel!!!
Maybe his arm sucks but that was a nice catch!

Riverfront
05-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Wooooo. Nice catch by Freel. Now let's score some runs!

Gainesville Red
05-08-2005, 09:53 PM
best catch I've seen all year. Still want Kearns out there, but that is a hell of a grab from Freel.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 09:53 PM
Gotta love :freel:

:thumbup:

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Holy Crap!!

Milton HR!!

RedsIn07
05-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Milton HR!!!

Gainesville Red
05-08-2005, 09:55 PM
What????!!!!!!!!!!! So far tonight Milton loves the hitters park! Awesome.

Gallen5862
05-08-2005, 09:57 PM
Milton hits a homerun!

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 09:57 PM
Milton's homer: 388 feet

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 09:59 PM
Jeff Weaver has given up 55 fly balls and 39 ground balls this year, so I'm hoping our power hitters can get hit some pitches out against him. (Even though he has given up two HR in 36.2 IP this year). It would seem GABP would be the place where he might have a rough night if he pitches like he normally does in allowing FB.

:thumbup: ;)

flyer85
05-08-2005, 10:00 PM
DP Machine at it again

howyoufreelin
05-08-2005, 10:01 PM
How many is that for Mighty Casey this year? Miley, get him out of the 3 hole.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Junior!!!!!!

Gallen5862
05-08-2005, 10:05 PM
Nice catch by Junior to save a homerun.

howyoufreelin
05-08-2005, 10:06 PM
best catch I've seen all year. Still want Kearns out there, but that is a hell of a grab from Freel.

Did Jr. just top that one?

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 10:07 PM
JR robbed Bradley!

Milton walks Kent.

Walkerforpres
05-08-2005, 10:07 PM
Argh! Show it again! :)

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:12 PM
This national TV thing gets Junior going!!

Walkerforpres
05-08-2005, 10:12 PM
Griffey!

Gallen5862
05-08-2005, 10:12 PM
Junior homerun 504 ties eddie murray.

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 10:12 PM
Originally Posted by CincyRedsFan30
Jeff Weaver has given up 55 fly balls and 39 ground balls this year, so I'm hoping our power hitters can get hit some pitches out against him. (Even though he has given up two HR in 36.2 IP this year). It would seem GABP would be the place where he might have a rough night if he pitches like he normally does in allowing FB...


(Ahem)

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:13 PM
Nothing cheap about that HR...that was a no doubter!

...I've missed that swing!

The Baumer
05-08-2005, 10:18 PM
So that's what it looks like to have an ace on the mound!

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:35 PM
Come on Milton, don't go Wilson on us.... :pray:

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:37 PM
Nice, Lopez :rolleyes:

Playadlc
05-08-2005, 10:38 PM
That's not a hit, I don't care what the techincal call is on that...that goes down as an error in my book.

flyer85
05-08-2005, 10:38 PM
we could be down 3-4 by the time this is over

howyoufreelin
05-08-2005, 10:40 PM
saw that one coming...

Playadlc
05-08-2005, 10:40 PM
Eric Milton is absolutely terrible.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:40 PM
That was predictable...

flyer85
05-08-2005, 10:40 PM
Gopher King strikes again. That's what $25M looks like

Aronchis
05-08-2005, 10:41 PM
Milton looks like Lowe did during yesterday's game, so hittable it is sad.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:42 PM
Someone is now warming up....just now

alexad
05-08-2005, 10:43 PM
Milton is going to give up the long ball, I just wish the bases were not loaded and it was a player who has not hit a homerun all season.

One win over the last nine is better than no wins over the last nine. (Just trying to find some positive in this whole mess).

I still say somebody's head has to roll over this whole situation.

MartyFan
05-08-2005, 10:43 PM
Yikes!!

alexad
05-08-2005, 10:43 PM
Someone is now warming up....just now

Matt, this surprises you how????

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:44 PM
Matt, this surprises you how????

Doesn't....just reporting :D

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:47 PM
Don't count the redlegs out yet...

alexad
05-08-2005, 10:49 PM
I never do, but it appears I could manage this team right now and get better production. Lopez is playing well tonight and should be left there, no strings attached. I do not care where he plays as long as he is playing.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:50 PM
I never do, but it appears I could manage this team right now and get better production. Lopez is playing well tonight and should be left there, no strings attached. I do not care where he plays as long as he is playing.

I would agree...he's EARNED it (and that is all I wanted him to do)

I was OK with him not starting over Aurilia in the beginning, but wanted him to take advantage of his opportunities....he's done that

flyer85
05-08-2005, 10:50 PM
don't think Casey can GIDP here

Playadlc
05-08-2005, 10:51 PM
I never do, but it appears I could manage this team right now and get better production. Lopez is playing well tonight and should be left there, no strings attached. I do not care where he plays as long as he is playing.

It is embarrassing that this kid is not the everyday SS on this team. Absolutely embarrassing.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:52 PM
Come on, Weaver!!! He's fragile!!!

Aronchis
05-08-2005, 10:53 PM
Getting a little wild there eh Jeffrey?

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 10:54 PM
Dunn's due a blast.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 10:54 PM
Dunn hasn't had a sac fly since July 2 years ago.....:lol:

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 10:55 PM
Dunn walks. Bases loaded for Randa

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 10:57 PM
Randa flies out to center.

Aurilia is coming up. :(

flyer85
05-08-2005, 10:57 PM
sure glad we have a good hitter behind Dunn. Now Aurilia, nice lineup construction Dave

Gallen5862
05-08-2005, 10:57 PM
We have got to get some runs!

flyer85
05-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Weaver certainly isn't pitching too contact

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Aurilia K's.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:00 PM
wow :rolleyes:

Playadlc
05-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Jeff Weaver has filthy stuff. He struggles with location at times, but his stuff is as good as anyone, IMO.

butlerbulldogs
05-08-2005, 11:01 PM
why isn't Lopez playing SS, and Kearns or Wily MO in the OF, would have loved to see one of those guys up instead of Aurilla

great call, MILEY!!

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:01 PM
no first pitch fastball GS for Weaver, the only pitch he threw for a strike once he got in trouble was a breaking ball

Aronchis
05-08-2005, 11:01 PM
That 6th inning is a good representation of what Reds baseball is all about.

FWIW, I am thinking Aurilia is thinking of himself as the "a man's man" type player.

alexad
05-08-2005, 11:02 PM
Jeff Weaver has filthy stuff. He struggles with location at times, but his stuff is as good as anyone, IMO.
Just think he could be pitching for the Reds, but the BIG BOYS did not want to spend the money and make a trade for him a few years ago.

butlerbulldogs
05-08-2005, 11:02 PM
not like Kearns hasn't been swinging a hot bat??

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:02 PM
Jeff Weaver has filthy stuff. He struggles with location at times, but his stuff is as good as anyone, IMO.No, Randa and Aurilia are just dumb hitters, they got themselves out. That was what Weaver was counting on

flynn78
05-08-2005, 11:04 PM
Could someone please keep me calm? I once again seem to have convinced myself that we turned a corner. AHHHHHHH :bang:

flynn78
05-08-2005, 11:04 PM
Groundhog Day!!!!!!!!!

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 11:04 PM
Damn, why do I keep watching this crap.

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:04 PM
BTW, an 85 mph fastball with a slider that breaks mostly in the horizontal plane is not nasty stuff.

howyoufreelin
05-08-2005, 11:05 PM
Why to go Milty...

Aronchis
05-08-2005, 11:05 PM
No, Randa and Aurilia are just dumb hitters, they got themselves out. That was what Weaver was counting on

I agree. The Weaver lovefest isn't appealing considering his past numbers and personality. I don't see the "great" stuff.

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:05 PM
Groundhog Day!!!!!!!!!except this one won't be ending for 3 years.

Tommyjohn25
05-08-2005, 11:06 PM
Good thing they kept Milton in this inning, because that extra run the Dodgers scored really helped. This is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 11:06 PM
I thought we signed Milton to be an "innings eater." I don't think he's got through the 7th inning yet this season.

toledodan
05-08-2005, 11:06 PM
the human batting tee is finally out of the game! :bang: how many years is milton signed for? :mooner:

bucknutdet
05-08-2005, 11:06 PM
Hurt me, Milton Bradley crushed that one.

Aronchis
05-08-2005, 11:06 PM
except this one won't be ending for 3 years.

Maybe the Yankees will get desperate and take him considering that his salary is only 4 million this year with the rest paid in signing bonus.

Playadlc
05-08-2005, 11:07 PM
No, Randa and Aurilia are just dumb hitters, they got themselves out. That was what Weaver was counting on

I agree that Aurilla is a dumb hitter, but I have no idea how you can't think Weaver has good stuff watching this game. I'm not saying he is a top notch SP, he doesn't have the head to be that, but his stuff is nasty, IMO.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:07 PM
Aurilia gone...Lopez moves to short...Jiminez goes to second

ws1990reds
05-08-2005, 11:07 PM
Eric's just collecting a paycheck. Anyone else the Reds can try that have something more than a pulse?

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 11:07 PM
the human batting tee is finally out of the game! :bang: how many years is milton signed for? :mooner:
Unfortunately, we get to look at him two years after this season. :thumbdown

Petitt33
05-08-2005, 11:08 PM
Aurilia gone...Lopez moves to short...Jiminez goes to second
A little to late...

flynn78
05-08-2005, 11:10 PM
I agree. The Weaver lovefest isn't appealing considering his past numbers and personality. I don't see the "great" stuff.
I agree Aronchis,Weaver is sometimes really good, sometimes really bad. No proof that he can be one or the other consistently.

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:11 PM
I agree that Aurilla is a dumb hitter, but I have no idea how you can't think Weaver has good stuff watching this game. I'm not saying he is a top notch SP, he doesn't have the head to be that, but his stuff is nasty, IMO.no he doesn't and his 5.7 ERA attests to that. He had mediocre stuff but is a smart pitcher who counts on most hitters not being patient and will get themselves out chasing his junk(that really only applies for RH hitters). He has nothing for the lefties and he knows it. He had no intention of pitching to Jr or Dunn because he wasn't afraid of Randa and Aurilia.

flynn78
05-08-2005, 11:13 PM
I think like Jo Dee Messina "my give a damn is busted" about the Reds.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Jeff Weaver is an inning eater...he's still truckin'

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:17 PM
somebody remind me why Miley is the manager.

SunDeck
05-08-2005, 11:18 PM
somebody remind me why Miley is the manager.

Because he'll do laundry, too.

Playadlc
05-08-2005, 11:18 PM
no he doesn't and his 5.7 ERA attests to that. He had mediocre stuff but is a smart pitcher who counts on most hitters not being patient and will get themselves out chasing his junk(that really only applies for RH hitters). He has nothing for the lefties and he knows it. He had no intention of pitching to Jr or Dunn because he wasn't afraid of Randa and Aurilia.

Weaver has a career ERA right around 4.5. He will be right around that # at the end of the year.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:19 PM
I'm quickly becomming a Felipe Lopez fan

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:19 PM
the innings eater didnt make it thru 7. He averages 6IP per start, that would be an innings eater by Reds standards

Aronchis
05-08-2005, 11:20 PM
Because he'll do laundry, too.

also Carl Lindner's as well obviously.

Lopez is feeling it right now, Casey needs to produce.

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:20 PM
Weaver has a career ERA right around 4.5. He will be right around that # at the end of the year.exactly ... a below average pitcher.

flynn78
05-08-2005, 11:20 PM
somebody remind me why Miley is the manager.
I think it is because the Reds are cheap and so is his contract and he is a career minor leaguer who jumped at the chance. :D

Playadlc
05-08-2005, 11:23 PM
exactly ... a below average pitcher.

A below average pitcher with very good stuff. :p:

flynn78
05-08-2005, 11:23 PM
I just saw we are third worst in the league with RISP. I feel for those other two teams, I really do beacause it is driving me crazy! :bang:

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:27 PM
A below average pitcher with very good stuff. :p:good command and very mediocre stuff.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:27 PM
19,634 showed up for the ESPN game tonight

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:28 PM
game could have been very different if you had added Kearns and subtracted Aurilia

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:30 PM
Due to lineup construction a team with no margin for error starts off giving the other team a handicap before the game begins

Weaver looked at that lineup and knew he could handle the 6-7-8 hitters without a problem

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:30 PM
7.25 and 6.18 is the ERA for Paul Wilson and Eric Milton in that order...

...that's the top of this rotation :help:

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 11:31 PM
7.25 and 6.18 is the ERA for Paul Wilson and Eric Milton in that order...

...that's the top of this rotation :help:

Don't forget to throw in Ortiz and Claussen. :help:

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:31 PM
Don't forget to throw in Ortiz and Claussen. :help:

I don't want a headache......


side note: nobody warming up in bullpen

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:32 PM
love that Ricky Stone ... he fits perfectly in this pen.

Playadlc
05-08-2005, 11:32 PM
good command and very mediocre stuff.

Well, to quote Ron Burgundy..."agree to disagree"

flynn78
05-08-2005, 11:32 PM
Reds pitching staff meet Rented Mule.
Rented Mule this is the Reds pitching staff.
You have a lot in common.

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:32 PM
This pitching staff gets worse every year and Don Gullett gets a free pass.....amazing

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:34 PM
This is pretty pathetic for the national spotlight....I hope the nation is getting a nice laugh :bang:

Aronchis
05-08-2005, 11:35 PM
Ricky?......Ricky?.......Ricky Ricky Ricky :mooner:

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:35 PM
This pitching staff gets worse every year and Don Gullett gets a free pass.....amazingNobody can make the Ricky Stones any good. He has to have pinpoint control to have success, his stuff is garbage

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:35 PM
Nobody can make the Ricky Stones any good. He has to have pinpoint control to have success, his stuff is garbage

Ok...our talent evaluators and scouts don't get fired then --- something needs to be done

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:36 PM
the judy hitter almost got a dinger

Aronchis
05-08-2005, 11:36 PM
Stone just got mighty lucky against the smurf.

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:37 PM
Ok...our talent evaluators and scouts don't get fired then --- something needs to be doneI believe you are starting to catch on. The problems start in the FO.

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:38 PM
If Dunn played against the Reds he'd hit 70 HRs

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:44 PM
night will end with no Kearns or WMP

Tracy ought to send Miley a thank you card

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:50 PM
Weber in....hasn't pitched in a week

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 11:53 PM
More good news... we get to face Peavy tomorrow night! ;)

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:54 PM
More good news... we get to face Peavy tomorrow night! ;)I'm sure Aurilia will get him

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 11:54 PM
Weber has nothing left at all. He is wild by a foot or two. Please release him!

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 11:55 PM
I'm sure Aurilia will get him

I wonder if he'll bat 6th or 7th tomorrow night?! I'm so excited about finding out, I'm just hanging on the edge of my seat already!

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:55 PM
Weber has nothing left at all. He is wild by a foot or two. Please release him!

Do you think DanO would do that? This was one of his big acquistions since this is the year to be competetive....

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:56 PM
Red's motto ... "bring us your tired, your hungry, your crappy relievers."

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 11:57 PM
Do you think DanO would do that? This was one of his big acquistions since this is the year to be competetive....

True. He also brings that vet. presence and knows how to handle himself.

As O'Brien said to Lance the other day, we need to be confident in him. He just needs a little more time. Just a few more months before we give up on him!

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:57 PM
Weber has nothing left at all. He is wild by a foot or two. Please release him!I think the main problem is he is scared to throw it over the plate

Matt700wlw
05-08-2005, 11:58 PM
True. He also brings that vet. presence and knows how to handle himself.

As O'Brien said to Lance the other day, we need to be confident in him. He just needs a little more time. Just a few more months before we give up on him!

This team won't survive a few more months...if something is not addressed VERY soon, any hope of a successful season will officially be gone - it's grim now but there is at least time to attempt to fix it

Glad to see they're being patient

flyer85
05-08-2005, 11:59 PM
This team won't survive a few more months...This team is finished already. There is no redeeming this pitching staff

CincyRedsFan30
05-08-2005, 11:59 PM
Unfortunately, sad bad true statements. Very sad.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:01 AM
Can Ben make it more fun by getting the opponent into double-digit runs again?

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:03 AM
He's getting close... as the crowd boos.... ;)

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 12:04 AM
I should just laugh...

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 12:04 AM
Can Ben make it more fun by getting the opponent into double-digit runs again?

He is doing his part.

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 12:05 AM
release Weber, fire Miley (what is he doing talking to ESPN during the game?? he should be worried about winning a ballgame!!), cut Aurilla (bring up Ray Olmedo to back up felipe Lopez)
ahhhhhh!!!!this is killing me!! we need to make changes

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:05 AM
why not give a guy like Shearn a chance. 20IP 12H 27Ks. He supposedly throws pretty hard.

Last year the Indians will awful but they kept switching people out until they found some guys in AAA(betancourt, Miller, Howry that could get people out.

release Weber and Stone, bring up Kelly and Shearn. Kelly goes into the rotation and Ortiz goes to the pen. They could not be worse

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:06 AM
Ben couldn't quite contribute to the team goal. ;)

flynn78
05-09-2005, 12:07 AM
The gas grill (Weber) is heating me up! :angry:

toledodan
05-09-2005, 12:07 AM
damn they only got 9 runs tonight! :rolleyes:

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Choi must have been a bit over excited!!

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:08 AM
The gas grill (Weber) is heating me up! :angry:we will take your word, there is no doubt he heats up the opponents bats

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Updated seasonal stats on Weber:

12.1 IP, 20 H, 11 ER, 9 BB, 8 K (8.03 ERA)

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:08 AM
It is the FO and the manager that heat me up.

CTA513
05-09-2005, 12:09 AM
Weber is supposed to be setting a good example for the younger guys... he hasnt done anything except show how to walk people and give up runs.

:/

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:09 AM
Choi must have been a bit overexcited!!that one was 3 inches off the ground

flynn78
05-09-2005, 12:11 AM
The Reds have a real knack for making me feel like Charlie Brown running at Lucy holding the football. I make myself believe that they aren't going to take the ball away, but everytime they do and I act suprised as I land on my butt defeated again.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:14 AM
I really feel for Freel. He always tries so hard to help the team out.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:15 AM
will sean do the dirty deed?

flynn78
05-09-2005, 12:16 AM
Please flyer I have a weak heart ;)

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:16 AM
Yes he will :)

flynn78
05-09-2005, 12:17 AM
When will a DP become officially known as hitting into a Sean Casey?

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:17 AM
Sean is a bonafide rally killer

WVSteveVT
05-09-2005, 12:18 AM
Sean is a bonafide rally killer


But his Batting Average is sooo High! :bang: :bang: :bang:

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:18 AM
There are definitely outcomes much worse that a K but nobody(on the Reds) seems to care Casey now has 10 GIDP.

The Baumer
05-09-2005, 12:19 AM
I don't get the pessimism around here. I for one am looking forward to seeing who the Reds select for the #1 pick in the 2006 draft. Maybe a good power hitting outfielder?

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:21 AM
Freel/Lopez are doing their part at the top of the order. I'm very impressed by Lopez' progress at the plate. He now has a .319 average, with 5 BB, which further augments his OBP.

David Cubbedge
05-09-2005, 12:22 AM
Miley SUCKS!

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:22 AM
I don't get the pessimism around here. I for one am looking forward to seeing who the Reds select for the #1 pick in the 2006 draft. Maybe a good power hitting outfielder?exactly what we need. No, the Reds will draft the player they can get to agree to their bonus demands. I hope the Padres enjoy Matt Bush.

Gainesville Red
05-09-2005, 12:22 AM
I've come to two realizations tonight. #1.) I'm starting to dislike Weber more than I dislike Weathers, and that's really saying something. #2.) We can sit here and argue about what the line-up should be, and why Kearns isn't playing, or why Lopez isn't in all the time, or any of the things that SHOULD be happening. The reality is it doesn't matter, because no matter what the line-up is we aren't going to score 10+ runs every night. Until we get some pitching we just aren't going to win no matter what the line-up is. Losing sucks, huh.

CTA513
05-09-2005, 12:23 AM
Miley SUCKS!

BANNED!


:evil:

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 12:24 AM
When thing of Dirty Deeds, Sean Casey and double plays, I can't help but think of the ACDC song "Dirty Deeds" and Sean Casey :)

LoganBuck
05-09-2005, 12:24 AM
I whole heartedly agree about Lopez and Freel. Why is Aurillia stealing ABs from Kearns or Pena. If you are looking for a roster spot for when Machado comes back Rich has to be the one to go.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:25 AM
Freel/Lopez are doing their part at the top of the order. I'm very impressed by Lopez' progress at the plate. He now has a .319 average, with 5 BB, which further augments his OBP.WHen they get on Sean will kill that rally.

On case you were wondering Sean is the worst in MLB. 10 GIDP in 33 chances. In case your wondering, Adam "the K" Dunn is on the opposite end of the list.

For BF I will come up with a new stat tomorrow it is called adjusted batting average where the batter has one hit subtracted from his total hits for each GIDP hit into.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:28 AM
When thing of Dirty Deeds, Sean Casey and double plays, I can't help but think of the ACDC song "Dirty Deeds" and Sean Casey :)the bad part is they are not "Done Dirt Cheap".

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:28 AM
Yup, Lopez' OBP is now .385, and his OPS is well over .900.

Latest on Aurilia:
.218/.250/.641

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:30 AM
WHen they get on Sean will kill that rally.

On case you were wondering Sean is the worst in MLB. 10 GIDP in 33 chances. In case your wondering, Adam "the K" Dunn is on the opposite end of the list.

For BF I will come up with a new stat tomorrow it is called adjusted batting average where the batter has one hit subtracted from his total hits for each GIDP hit into.

As impressive as Case was last year, he has really struggled this year. His lack of HR don't even do his poor performance justice.

Until (if) he starts improving, I'm thinking he should probably be batting somewhere around 6th or 7th.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 12:35 AM
As impressive as Case was last year, he has really struggled this year. His lack of HR don't even do his poor performance justice.

Until (if) he starts improving, I'm thinking he should probably be batting somewhere around 6th or 7th.Seans BA adjsuted for GIDP is .257 if you add 10 ABs for the 10 GIDP. I will have to decide which is more accurate, adding ABs or subtracting hits

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 12:37 AM
Ugly.

BTW, with Milton's latest HR and seasonal total of (13), he is still right on target for about 70 given up on the year. :help: