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SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 09:39 PM
F-8. 1 out. Runner holds woohoo!!!!


On a 3-0 count no less :) :thumbup:

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:39 PM
Saenz swings on a 3-0 pitch and flies out to center. Bases still loaded.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 09:39 PM
Come on DP

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 09:40 PM
GSHR. Argh.


Milton strikes again.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 09:40 PM
:angry: CRIMITY!

TRF
05-08-2005, 09:40 PM
well that blows.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:40 PM
what a surprise

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:40 PM
Phillips hits a grand slam to left. 5-2 Dodgers.

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 09:40 PM
Milton serves up his 12th Milton of the season. That hurts.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:41 PM
3 years of this we have to look forward to

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 09:41 PM
Sigh...

ws1990reds
05-08-2005, 09:41 PM
Milton is THE worst pitcher contract I've ever seen the Reds sign. Flat out terrible. I thought it was really funny when fans here were saying that he would give up a lot of solo homeruns. Ya think? :bang:

WVRed
05-08-2005, 09:42 PM
Ok, im calling this the Curse of the CBus image, whos with me?

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:42 PM
Ledee doubles

SteelSD
05-08-2005, 09:42 PM
Jeez does this look familiar. Probably because I've seen it so many times with Milton. There's no time to defense against it, because he looks like he's cruising and then...BAM!...baseballs are flying all over the park. It's his M.O.

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 09:42 PM
Ok, this BETTER be his last inning.

Check that.

This BETTER be his last batter if he doesn't get him out.

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 09:43 PM
Still not a single ground ball out for Milton. 19 outs. 19 fly ball outs.

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 09:43 PM
Ricky Stone warming in the pen.

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 09:44 PM
6-3 ground out. Finally a ground out. sheesh.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:44 PM
Edwards grounds out to short. Runner goes to 3rd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:45 PM
Weaver grounds out to third. 5-2 Dodgers middle of 6.

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 09:45 PM
Casey NEEDS to write a book, when he retires, of the conversations he has had at 1B. That would be a must read IMO.

A book of Casey's conversations would be longer than this. (http://educationalbookservice.safeshopper.com/11/51.htm?533)

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 09:45 PM
Swinging bunt by Weaver. Milton can't make the play, but a nice job of backing him up by Randa and gets him :D


Offense time!

Falls City Beer
05-08-2005, 09:46 PM
Well, the Lopez/Freel snafu didn't help but still, he probably still serves up a big fly to Phillips for a three run shot.

TRF
05-08-2005, 09:46 PM
Eric Milton is reminding me more and more of Elmer Dessens.

strict 5 inning pitcher.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:46 PM
90 pitches for Fly Boy

MWM
05-08-2005, 09:46 PM
I knew it was too good to last.

Milton's ERA is now up to 6.05. i wonder if that's "solid"? Isn't that what his signing was supposed to be - a "solid" and "proven" and "front line" starting pitcher?

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:48 PM
Anybody catch the movie about Milton's life.... The Aviator?

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 09:48 PM
Thank the Lord that Casey more often than not can scoop that ball at first or the Reds would be in even deeper trouble.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:48 PM
Lopez leads off with a double.

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 09:49 PM
Anybody catch the movie about Milton's life.... The Aviator?

:lol:

TRF
05-08-2005, 09:49 PM
again.. lopez... aurillia... why?

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 09:49 PM
Milton's ERA is now up to 6.05. i wonder if that's "solid"? Isn't that what his signing was supposed to be - a "solid" and "proven" and "front line" starting pitcher?

Don't forget, he's an innings eater too.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 09:49 PM
I knew it was too good to last.

Milton's ERA is now up to 6.05. i wonder if that's "solid"? Isn't that what his signing was supposed to be - a "solid" and "proven" and "front line" starting pitcher?

But Milton "knows how to win", right?

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 09:50 PM
Ok, im calling this the Curse of the CBus image, whos with me?

You posted it :bang:

MWM
05-08-2005, 09:50 PM
It's not like an over-the-shoulder catch is routine. It would have been a very good play had Lopez made it.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:50 PM
We're gonna have to take matters into our own hands.

Anybody got Jeff Gillooly's number?

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:51 PM
Casey flies out to right. Runner goes to 3rd. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Junior hit by the pitch. 1st and 3rd with one out.

TRF
05-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Griff smiles at being drilled.

man he is some kind of ball player.

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Jerk. I should kick Jeff Weaver's :mooner:

MWM
05-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Bush league by Weaver....to be expected. No question about the intention. Junior did admire his HR a little last time.

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Ouch! right in the butt!

Warning issued.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:53 PM
why in the world are they issuing a warning there

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:54 PM
sorry guys, I don't think that was intentional.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 09:54 PM
Come on Dunn :clap:

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Dunn walks. Bases loaded for Randa.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Squeel like a pig, Weaver!!!

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Lol I love how ESPN is getting all in a bunch over this sac fly stuff. Why does it even matter?

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Oh don't start that sac fly crap :rant:

Raisor
05-08-2005, 09:56 PM
Dunn advances the runner with a BB.

I swear, I'm taking hostages the next time Sac Flies and Dunn are mentioned in the same sentence

ochre
05-08-2005, 09:56 PM
Louisville slugger sent adam bats with sac fly in place of his name.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 09:56 PM
Puffy Randa up now

MWM
05-08-2005, 09:56 PM
Randa loves that first pitch. Not a good time to be swinging at the first pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 09:57 PM
Randa flies out to center. 2 outs. Bases still loaded.

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 09:57 PM
I thought it was really funny when fans here were saying that he would give up a lot of solo homeruns. Ya think? :bang:

The last three seasons, Milton has given up 70 homeruns. 38 solo shots and 32 with runners on. Tonight was his second G.S. during that span.

TRF
05-08-2005, 09:57 PM
RA better provide some of that veteran stuff we keep hearing.

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 09:57 PM
Puffy loathes the Joe Randa signing.

MWM
05-08-2005, 09:58 PM
Perfect time to PH Kearns right now.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 09:58 PM
Randa's not clutch..

If he only would have gotten an extra five feet on that flyout he would have been clutch.

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 09:59 PM
Perfect time to PH Kearns right now.

Oh man! I almost typed there before reading. They sure could use his bat right now.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 09:59 PM
Paul LoDuca would never have taken that foul off his shoulder like Phillips just did. He would have caught it while doing a backflip.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:00 PM
again.... RA... Lopez... why?

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:00 PM
Aurilia strikes out swinging. Bases left loaded. 5-2 Dodgers after 6.

RedlegNation
05-08-2005, 10:00 PM
Boy, that Aurilia's sure a good veteran to have around. Clutch.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 10:01 PM
Does Miley miss Juan Castro so much that he's playing Aurillillillillia everyday to make up for the fact that Castro's not on the team?

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:01 PM
I loathe the RA signing.

Lopez would have doubled off the wall...

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:02 PM
Shame we didn't have a guy named Austin batting in that spot

CrackerJack
05-08-2005, 10:02 PM
Sure could've used a guy who's hot like Jiminez there....

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 10:03 PM
"That's a big reason why the Reds are 11-18." So say's Marty, after Aurilia strikes out. :bang:

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:03 PM
Izturis flies out to right. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Good play by Milton. 2 outs.

M2
05-08-2005, 10:04 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Kronosb/1.jpg

DanO: Hey, remember that time I gave Eric Milton $25 million and tried to pass off Rich Aurilia as a viable player?

Bald Guy: Dude, that was classic!

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Bradley with a long home run to center. 6-2 Dodgers.

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Does Miley miss Juan Castro so much that he's playing Aurillillillillia everyday to make up for the fact that Castro's not on the team?

Watching Aurilia everyday makes me miss Castro.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:04 PM
so i'm guessing Milton is German for Gasoline.

MWM
05-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Bradley has been all over Milton all night. It was just a matter of time.

MWM
05-08-2005, 10:06 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 10:06 PM
But Milton knows how to win, just like Aurilia has playoff experience, and Randa is a solid player!!

RFS62
05-08-2005, 10:06 PM
so i'm guessing Milton is German for Gasoline.


:laugh: :laugh:

Kc61
05-08-2005, 10:06 PM
I think the Reds have had enough of national TV for awhile.

ws1990reds
05-08-2005, 10:06 PM
I think we should name Eric "Eric MiltDoWn".

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 10:06 PM
"That's a big reason why the Reds are 11-18." So say's Marty, after Aurilia strikes out. :bang:

Huh. I thought Marty was in love with Aurilia.

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 10:07 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Kronosb/1.jpg

DanO: Hey, remember that time I gave Eric Milton $25 million and tried to pass off Rich Aurilia as a viable player?

Bald Guy: Dude, that was classic!

That gets some serious reputation points. :thumbup:

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 10:07 PM
The last three seasons, Milton has given up 70 homeruns. 38 solo shots and 32 with runners on. Tonight was his second G.S. during that span.

EDIT: Make that 71 HR's with 39 being solo and 31 with runners on. I guess he's trying to even the scales after the G.S.

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 10:08 PM
Bradley has been all over Milton all night. It was just a matter of time.

Which is why it surprised me when he came back out in that inning, though I'm sure he was hoping to replace him next inning because he would be due to bat second.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:08 PM
Stone in to pitch. Jimenez in to play second.

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 10:08 PM
OK. They can do this!

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:08 PM
kent flies out to left. 6-2 Dodgers middle of the 7th.

MWM
05-08-2005, 10:09 PM
I think now is a good time to go and re-live the shellacking I took in the Milton acquisition thread for not liking the signing.

M2
05-08-2005, 10:09 PM
I think we should name Eric "Eric MiltDoWn".

I like the Miltdown concept. He leaves us little choice but to have fun at his expense.

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 10:09 PM
That gets some serious reputation points. :thumbup:

Yea' it did. :thumbup:

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 10:11 PM
Lopez is now at SS after the double switch.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:12 PM
Lopez is now at SS after the double switch.

Should have done that before the first inning.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:13 PM
Larue strikes out swinging. 1 out.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:13 PM
LaRue needs a couple of games off i think.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:14 PM
But Milton knows how to win, just like Aurilia has playoff experience, and Randa is a solid player!!

:explode:

ochre
05-08-2005, 10:14 PM
Should have done that before the first inning.
1st inning double switch? Now that's boone'esque :)

:)

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 10:14 PM
Should have done that before the first inning.

On April 4th.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:15 PM
Jimenez strikes out looking. 2 outs.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 10:15 PM
LaRue needs a couple of games off i think.

Yeah, but that means Valentin would have to play.

I'd rather have a bad LaRue over a bad Valentin

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:16 PM
Freel singles.

MWM
05-08-2005, 10:17 PM
Lopez has been raking the ball, and attempting a bunt single is a "smart move?"

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:18 PM
Lopez lines a single to right. 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:18 PM
once again... lopez aurillia...

never mind.

MWM
05-08-2005, 10:19 PM
Uh, Lopez should have been playing every day coming out of spring.

traderumor
05-08-2005, 10:19 PM
Lopez sits next game. He's got two nice hits tonight.

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 10:19 PM
Yeah, but that means Valentin would have to play.

I'd rather have a bad LaRue over a bad Valentin

Valentin's hurt... tweaked muscle in his side, I think.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:20 PM
Kelly Wunsch coming in to pitch for the Dodgers.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:20 PM
Yeah, but that means Valentin would have to play.

I'd rather have a bad LaRue over a bad Valentin

right now, Jason's head is worse than Valentin's ability.

he needs a break. What's he hitting? a buck sixty? at some point BA does matter. It's in his head. he needs a mental break for a couple of days.

traderumor
05-08-2005, 10:21 PM
Valentin's hurt... tweaked muscle in his side, I think.Strained it reaching for a sandwich in the after game spread is what I heard.

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 10:21 PM
Really could use a patented SC double here.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:21 PM
Valentin's hurt... tweaked muscle in his side, I think.

DL?

Raisor
05-08-2005, 10:22 PM
right now, Jason's head is worse than Valentin's ability.

he needs a break. What's he hitting? a buck sixty? at some point BA does matter. It's in his head. he needs a mental break for a couple of days.

eh, I can live with a 322 OBP in the 8 spot. His SLG will get going, eventually.

traderumor
05-08-2005, 10:22 PM
Where was Saenz playing?

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:22 PM
Casey hits it hard but lines it right to the first baseman. 6-2 Dodgers after 7.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:23 PM
ugh. Casey is pulling everything, and getting no elevation at all.

IMO he's hurting somewhere. and it is his MO to hide such things.

RosieRed
05-08-2005, 10:23 PM
DL?

I don't think he's been on the bench long enough. Maybe after another week, then they can put him on the DL.

;)

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:24 PM
Phil after today, that 322 OBP is around .310. or lower.

he needs a break, and if Valentin is to hurt to catch, DL him and bring up Sardines.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 10:25 PM
ugh. Casey is pulling everything, and getting no elevation at all.

IMO he's hurting somewhere. and it is his MO to hide such things.

well, he IS scrappy.

Scrappy people play through injuries!

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:25 PM
Saenz grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 10:25 PM
well, he IS scrappy.

Scrappy people play through injuries!

I know someone else who is scrappy.

Phil Raisor

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:26 PM
I don't think he's been on the bench long enough. Maybe after another week, then they can put him on the DL.

;)

Right

I forgot the Dan O rules ;)

RFS62
05-08-2005, 10:26 PM
Mr. Red's head looks like a grade school paper mache project

Sad

Raisor
05-08-2005, 10:27 PM
I know someone else who is scrappy.

Phil Raisor

darn right

RFS62
05-08-2005, 10:28 PM
Pop the question yet there, scrappy boy?

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:28 PM
darn right

one too many letters at the beginning of the word. ;)

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:29 PM
Phillips singles.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 10:29 PM
Pop the question yet there, scrappy boy?

Not yet, I'm still planning the operation.

It'll be before May 21st.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 10:30 PM
Not yet, I'm still planning the operation.

It'll be before May 21st.


Good. We need something to talk about around here.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:31 PM
Ledee singles to right. 1st and 2nd with one out.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:32 PM
Edwards doubles 7-2

MWM
05-08-2005, 10:32 PM
Ricky Stone looks like he's throwing underhand. There's nothing on it. He won't be long for the big club.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 10:33 PM
Well, stick a fork in me, I'm done.

Gotta get up early for work. I'm not scrappy enough to do my job with five hours sleep while the team's head is being caved in with a brick.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:34 PM
Good night Phil :wave:

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:35 PM
Grabowski strikes out. 2 out.

Raisor
05-08-2005, 10:35 PM
Good night Phil :wave:

Goodnight John Boy

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:36 PM
Izturis flies out to the warning track in right. 7-2 Dodgers middle of the 8th.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:37 PM
Goodnight John Boy

I'm Mary Jo


Wait..wrong show? :D

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:40 PM
Junior strikes out swinging. 1 out.

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 10:40 PM
Who ever is screaming on every pitch is going to drive me to drink. It's blood curddling.

letsgojunior
05-08-2005, 10:41 PM
Well I'm headed to bed. I'm exhausted from my 1200 mile magical mystery tour up and down the east coast. Later kids

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:41 PM
Dunn doubles.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:42 PM
Randa singles in a run and goes to 2nd on a throwing error. 7-3

TeamBoone
05-08-2005, 10:44 PM
Why is Kearns being dissed?

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:44 PM
he whined to the press is all i can figure.

traderumor
05-08-2005, 10:45 PM
Ricky Stone looks like he's throwing underhand. There's nothing on it. He won't be long for the big club.Funny thing is, he is indistinguisable. That's the way all our chuckers look.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:45 PM
Cruz strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:47 PM
Larue can't buy a hit.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 10:47 PM
Repko makes a diving catch on the warning track to rob Larue of a hit.

traderumor
05-08-2005, 10:48 PM
Well, looks like our one game winning streak is going to come to a screeching halt.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 10:48 PM
Well, looks like our one game winning streak is going to come to a screeching halt.


Yep, one in a row.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:53 PM
Who ever is screaming on every pitch is going to drive me to drink. It's blood curddling.

Guess they think they are helping

Helping drive fans away maybe :bang:

RFS62
05-08-2005, 10:55 PM
Empty stands and screaming drunks.

Great

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:56 PM
Empty stands and screaming drunks.

Great

Can we have Louisville play our games from now in? ;)

Falls City Beer
05-08-2005, 10:56 PM
Empty stands?

I give Miley another week.

I give DanO till the end of the season.

TRF
05-08-2005, 10:56 PM
well that did it for me.. gotta jet for home.

wally post
05-08-2005, 10:57 PM
I'm totally disgusted by Dan O. In my business, he doesn't get paid. I wish him the worst of all things. !)#(*%^&
What are we gonna do.... wear bags over our heads????

RFS62
05-08-2005, 10:58 PM
Well, the butt whipping is much more vivid in High Def.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Well, the butt whipping is much more vivid in High Def.

Lucky you RFS ;)

wally post
05-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Fortunately, I'm only listening to the game. Can we organize a get rid of DanO campaign? I'm serious. I'll contribute

Falls City Beer
05-08-2005, 11:00 PM
I have to tell you, I had no high hopes for this season, but I had no idea this team would suck this bad. I'm shocked at how awful this team is.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Phillips drives in another run 8-3

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 11:01 PM
Helping drive fans away maybe :bang:

I'll probably get dinged for this but I think the play on the field is doing more to drive fans away than anything else. With that said, the Reds are gonna' come back in the bottom of the inning and win this game and the series. Good night all.... :)

wally post
05-08-2005, 11:01 PM
Let's place an ad in the Enquirer. I'm ticked.

RFS62
05-08-2005, 11:02 PM
With that said, the Reds are gonna' come back in the bottom of the inning and win this game and the series. Good night all.... :)


Yeah, I remember my first beer.....

MWM
05-08-2005, 11:03 PM
So, do people think there's any possibility that John Allen will get the boot any time soon?

Reds Nd2
05-08-2005, 11:04 PM
I have to tell you, I had no high hopes for this season, but I had no idea this team would suck this bad. I'm shocked at how awful this team is.

To be honest, I thought they'd lose between 80 and 90 games this season. I didn't think they'd lose them all at one time though.

wally post
05-08-2005, 11:04 PM
yeah. He's first. Let's do our part. Put our money where our mouth is.

WVRedsFan
05-08-2005, 11:05 PM
So, do people think there's any possibility that John Allen will get the boot any time soon?

I really don't think John Allen is the problem this time unless I've missed something. We spent money on a homerun pitcher in a homerun park and a lot of horrible relievers (not to mention a washed up shortstop that the manager feels is better than a young guy hitting 50 points higher) and our coaching staff simply cannot (at least does not) improve anyone. We have a very talented lineup. Either they are not being handled correctly or they stink and we should have an early firesale. I think it's the former.

But, I'm just a fan. What do I know?

RFS62
05-08-2005, 11:05 PM
So, do people think there's any possibility that John Allen will get the boot any time soon?


I don't think so.

This is on DanO. Miley will go first, though.

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 11:06 PM
How is Weber in the majors? He can not throw a strike, but if he does, he gets shelled. This organization is pathetic. :thumbdown:

traderumor
05-08-2005, 11:07 PM
So, do people think there's any possibility that John Allen will get the boot any time soon?The Reds are once again in a position to clean house, which they had the chance to do two years ago, but of course they decided to scapegoat. With part of the team up for sale, we could hope the Lindner decides to get out while the getting's bad. However, the new folks could make some demands as a condition of purchase, such as making organization wide changes.

Hey, its almost bedtime, I can start dreamin' early ;)

wally post
05-08-2005, 11:10 PM
well, I've just lost a couple-a-reputation points. Guess I'm out of line somehow. I'm in with an ad in a Sunday Enquirer. Of course, I know nothing - just a fan. But this is awful - we've known it would be bad since the signings and front office moves. Too bad. Can't we do something????

traderumor
05-08-2005, 11:11 PM
And once again, a team struggling at the plate finds their stroke during a weekend in the batting cage against the most expensive batting practice pitchers in the history of the major leagues

ws1990reds
05-08-2005, 11:11 PM
So, do people think there's any possibility that John Allen will get the boot any time soon?

Won't happen. A lot of folks would love to see him gone (me included), ain't going to happen.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 11:11 PM
Short of a few players I don't think anyone should be keeping their jobs

traderumor
05-08-2005, 11:12 PM
well, I've just lost a couple-a-reputation points. Guess I'm out of line somehow. I'm in with an ad in a Sunday Enquirer. Of course, I know nothing - just a fan. But this is awful - we've known it would be bad since the signings and front office moves. Too bad. Can't we do something????

The team's up for sale :evil:

MWM
05-08-2005, 11:12 PM
I really don't think John Allen is the problem this time unless I've missed something.

You haven't missed anything, it's probably jsut a different perspective. But John Allen is the guy steering the ship of the franchise. This is a franchise problem that starts much higher than the 25 players and the coaches in the dugout. This is an organization that has no idea what they're doing and no direction at all. John Allen might be not directly to blame, but he's in so far over his head, he just can't see anything. The rest of it trickles down from there.

ws1990reds
05-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Empty stands?

I give Miley another week.

I give DanO till the end of the season.

They won't fire Miley before the All-Star break, not likely at all this season. He's part of the Good Ol' Boy's Network. DanO has way too many supporters saying "he needs at least two more years, it's too small a sample size to judge him!". :thumbdown

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 11:16 PM
Well, at least the offense has not quit. The pitching staff, on the other hand, never started, much less quit.

SirFelixCat
05-08-2005, 11:16 PM
And there is #10 for Casey. :yack:

ws1990reds
05-08-2005, 11:16 PM
And, Casey does what he usually does. GIDP. :thumbdown

SteelSD
05-08-2005, 11:17 PM
#10

I just about can't take it anymore.

Phhhl
05-08-2005, 11:18 PM
You haven't missed anything, it's probably jsut a different perspective. But John Allen is the guy steering the ship of the franchise. This is a franchise problem that starts much higher than the 25 players and the coaches in the dugout. This is an organization that has no idea what they're doing and no direction at all. John Allen might be not directly to blame, but he's in so far over his head, he just can't see anything. The rest of it trickles down from there.

Amen.

KronoRed
05-08-2005, 11:20 PM
Does this count as another mothers day massacre?

SunDeck
05-08-2005, 11:20 PM
I have to tell you, I had no high hopes for this season, but I had no idea this team would suck this bad. I'm shocked at how awful this team is.

I had high hopes. I thought at least they were trying to bring in some pitching. But, not being one who knows a whole hell of a lot about the stuff...or lack there of that they brought in, I fell for it.

I don't watch the games, just follow them on the web, so I have a lot of faith in my friends here on this board to tell me what's happening. Can't say I can remember when this group was so down so early. Maybe we are all just getting sick of it and our hope wells have collectively run dry, but I sense very little optimism about this being a young season, about there being a lot of baseball to play and all that. This is just a bad ballclub from top to bottom right now.

WVRedsFan
05-08-2005, 11:21 PM
You haven't missed anything, it's probably jsut a different perspective. But John Allen is the guy steering the ship of the franchise. This is a franchise problem that starts much higher than the 25 players and the coaches in the dugout. This is an organization that has no idea what they're doing and no direction at all. John Allen might be not directly to blame, but he's in so far over his head, he just can't see anything. The rest of it trickles down from there.

Oh, I agree. It needs to change from top to bottom and maybe send some players packing, too. But having said that, there has to be something wrong on the field, too. With the talent we have offensively, there is no excuse for non-improvement from year to year. We still strikeout at an alarming rate. We haven't hit with RISP in so long I can't remember. It just gets worse. That's on the coaching staff, the manager, and the general manager. That's what I was saying.

wally post
05-08-2005, 11:22 PM
You haven't missed anything, it's probably jsut a different perspective. But John Allen is the guy steering the ship of the franchise. This is a franchise problem that starts much higher than the 25 players and the coaches in the dugout. This is an organization that has no idea what they're doing and no direction at all. John Allen might be not directly to blame, but he's in so far over his head, he just can't see anything. The rest of it trickles down from there.

yep. agreed.

smith288
05-08-2005, 11:26 PM
Oh, I agree. It needs to change from top to bottom and maybe send some players packing, too. But having said that, there has to be something wrong on the field, too. With the talent we have offensively, there is no excuse for non-improvement from year to year. We still strikeout at an alarming rate. We haven't hit with RISP in so long I can't remember. It just gets worse. That's on the coaching staff, the manager, and the general manager. That's what I was saying. Couldnt agree much more with that.

wally post
05-08-2005, 11:27 PM
good point WV. This is far more complex - and NOT OUR JOB to fix. But I certainly wish there was something we, as fans, could do to initiate some action towards a healthy front office. I wish we could send a message to Mr. Lindner.

MWM
05-08-2005, 11:29 PM
Yes, but the overall condition of the franchise is on Allen and Lindner. And I disagree with your assessment with the talent, which is where we part ways. I thought this was a bad team on paper (I predicted 90 losses coming into the season). When you top that off with the wrong players being the ones getting the PT (see Aurilia), then you have the recipe for one of the wrost teams in the game.

wally post
05-08-2005, 11:29 PM
Man, more posts from me tonight than in the last year! Stepping away from the computer.... :help:

wally post
05-08-2005, 11:31 PM
(still stepping away, but totally enjoying a day off and Redzone) :D .....if we could place a notice of some sort in the Enquirer (they could no doubt use the money) I'm in for a hun.

WVRedsFan
05-08-2005, 11:32 PM
Yes, but the overall condition of the franchise is on Allen and Lindner. And I disagree with your assessment with the talent, which is where we part ways. I thought this was a bad team on paper (I predicted 90 losses coming into the season). When you top that off with the wrong players being the ones getting the PT (see Aurilia), then you have the recipe for one of the wrost teams in the game.

Really, MWM, we totally agree. I just don't express myself as well as you. I have the same feelings. No disagreement here as far as I'm concerned.

Unassisted
05-08-2005, 11:51 PM
good point WV. This is far more complex - and NOT OUR JOB to fix. But I certainly wish there was something we, as fans, could do to initiate some action towards a healthy front office. I wish we could send a message to Mr. Lindner.Not attending games speaks volumes. I imagine that even an aged billionaire can decipher that message.

SunDeck
05-08-2005, 11:55 PM
Not attending games speaks volumes. I imagine that even an aged billionaire can decipher that message.
It hasn't worked in the past. On the contrary, their response has been that the fans lack of enthusiasm for coming down and watching the Reds lose would mean higher ticket prices and low payroll. Obtuse doesn't begin to describe these guys.
:mooner:

Chip R
05-09-2005, 01:04 AM
At the beginning of the 6th when Roepke led off with a sharp single to RF, I turned to Kitty and said, "Get the bullpen up." When Milton gave up the slam to Phillips I felt somewhat vindicated. Now that I think about it, it wouldn't have mattered if they brought someone in from the pen unless it was Wagner and I knew he had the night off anyway. Anyone they brought in was going to be the match the the gas can that was Milton. :(

MWM was right. Where the hell was Kearns when Aurilia was up with the bases loaded?! He could have put Kearns in RF, moved Freel to 2nd and slid Lopez to SS. Of course where the hell was Kearns when the game started?! Then Miley double switches with Aurilia in the next inning anyway. Folks, this is going to be a looooooooooooong season.