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Golgafrinchan
05-09-2005, 07:27 PM
Pads:
Roberts, CF
Loretta, 2B
Klesko, LF
Nevin, 1B
Giles, RF
Hernandez, C
Greene, SS
Burroughs, 3B
Peavy, P

Reds:
Freel, RF
Lopez, 2B
Casey, 1B
Griffey, CF
Dunn, LF
Randa, 3B
Aurilia, SS
Valentin, C
Harang, P

Lineups from mlb.com

Ravenlord
05-09-2005, 07:30 PM
let's break Rich Aurilia's thumbs!

eh...probably wouldn't matter...Miley would probably still put him in the lineup.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 07:31 PM
Hmm, I am pissed to say the least.

Is there something wrong with Kearns or is Miley just that damn stupid?

Golgafrinchan
05-09-2005, 07:32 PM
With Aurilia stinking up the joint, Kearns's recent power surge, -and- Kearns's complaining about not playing on Sunday, I felt pretty confident that Kearns would be playing tonight.

Either Kearns is in Miley's (or the front office's) doghouse, or something weird is going on.

WillPitch4Food
05-09-2005, 07:36 PM
Could Kearns sitting be a precursor to a trade?? Might not want to get him hurt if he's already being seriously shopped around and has some suitors the Reds are interested in... or our managment needs taken out back and beaten... either way it doesn't make Aurilia any better :)

RedTeamGo!
05-09-2005, 07:38 PM
Dunn batting 5th with Randa protecting him is just so far beyond common sense it is ridiculous.

KronoRed
05-09-2005, 07:39 PM
Well Bergolla will get a nice paid vacation while he's in Cincy :(

PickOff
05-09-2005, 07:39 PM
Unbelievable. :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

RedTeamGo!
05-09-2005, 07:40 PM
at least Felipe is in the lineup now.

SirFelixCat
05-09-2005, 07:41 PM
Well Bergolla will get a nice paid vacation while he's in Cincy :(

And that's a shame. It will not do him any good at all. He'll be used as a PR, but he needs AB's. Good to see one of my interviewee's make the show though :thumbup:

jfar23
05-09-2005, 07:43 PM
Wow, the Reds are better than I thought. They can't even get a player like Kearns into the game with Pena hurt. Talk about a deep team!

PickOff
05-09-2005, 07:46 PM
Fans: So, Coach, could you explan to us why Aurillia is starting instead of Kearns?

Miley: Uh.....what do you mean? Aurillia doesn't play right.

Fans: Well, Dave, if you bench Rich, move Lopez to short, and Freel to second than you can play Kearns in right.

Miley: Hm. Hadn't thought of that. Do you think it's too late to change the lineup for tonight?

Fans: We don't know, Dave, why don't you check the ump, or better yet call Selig, I'm sure he could tell.

Miley: Gee, thanks Fans, what would I do without ya?

Fans: We have no idea, Dave, no idea.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 07:46 PM
Why does Aurilia continue to struggle but get playing time, and it appears Kearns may be coming around and continues to sit?

What is going on??

kyred14
05-09-2005, 07:47 PM
Unbelievable. :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

i couldn't have said it better myself, unbelievable and plain stupid

PickOff
05-09-2005, 07:48 PM
at least Felipe is in the lineup now.

True. Too bad he's playing second!

fs43340
05-09-2005, 07:51 PM
LET'S GO REDS,LET'S GO! Let me hear you! Don't worry be happy! Smiles everyone,Smiles!

PickOff
05-09-2005, 07:55 PM
Okay, Marty, ask Miley the tough ones.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 07:58 PM
Hmm, I am pissed to say the least.

Is there something wrong with Kearns or is Miley just that damn stupid? can't be suprised? What changed over yesterday? RA gets another 0-fer, that is a daily occurrence.

I am clueless as to what is going.

My only conclusion is that Miley is afraid to play Kearns everyday. Why? Because he will have a serious problem if Kearns plays everyday and gets hot, what happens when Pena come back? Miley doesn't want to deal with the sitaution where it is obvious the 3 young guys are superior hitters to Jr and especially Casey.

Afterall them is team is not losing because he is playing the out machine in Aurilia.

PickOff
05-09-2005, 08:02 PM
Way to serve up the softballs, Marty. He had the perfect opportunity to follow up with the Aurillia question, but he never brought Rich up. Dissappointing.

schroomytunes
05-09-2005, 08:03 PM
I'm dumbfounded, does Miley have a clue? Why is Kearns not in the lineup? I'm sorry but Miley has got to go. Rich Aurilia is going to go 0-4, and leave 5 RISP, and Miley will pinch-hit Cruz ahead of Kearns, and then say afterwards he was holding Kearns back for that big home run. :bang: :bang: :bang: :help: :help: :help: :help: :cry:

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:03 PM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34473

Bobcat J
05-09-2005, 08:04 PM
You know, I was going to go down to the stadium tonight. But, then I saw this lineup and my motivation to go disappeared.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:04 PM
The beat rolls on :rolleyes:

KronoRed
05-09-2005, 08:05 PM
Marty must love Miley... :rant:

RedlegJake
05-09-2005, 08:06 PM
Freel, best at 2ndbase in right, Kearns our best defensive outfielder on the bench, Lopez, our shortstop heir apparent at 2nd, Casey batting 3rd where some kind of base running ability is much to be desired, and Legs of Lombardi Aurilia at SS? Even if the Reds had great pitching it's be tough to win with this kind of managing. Heck, we might get a hit from the catcher tonight, though.

PickOff
05-09-2005, 08:07 PM
Maybe, just maybe Rich has been in the lineup recently because there is a scout from Japan watching him tonight and we are hoping for a trade? Please. Please be true.

Seriously, though, is any teams shortstop playing worse than Rich and have no job security? I hope so and I hope Dano is offering to pay at least half of Aurillia's salary.

:help:

flyer85
05-09-2005, 08:09 PM
BTW, with Peavy and his nasty slider Dunn will be ptiched around like Weaver did last night. He won't get anything to hit if the AB is important. Peavy and his slider will handle Randa and Aurilia.

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:13 PM
BTW, with Peavy and his nasty slider Dunn will be ptiched around like Weaver did last night. He won't get anything to hit if the AB is important. Peavy and his slider will handle Randa and Aurilia.

Flyer, is there any way that you'd consider managing the Reds? That sort of insight is sorely lacking apparently from the top of the organization to the bottom.

RedlegJake
05-09-2005, 08:13 PM
BTW, with Peavy and his nasty slider Dunn will be ptiched around like Weaver did last night. He won't get anything to hit if the AB is important. Peavy and his slider will handle Randa and Aurilia.

All too true. The better the pitcher the more they'll go this route as long as Randa and Aurilia are "protecting" Dunn. That's why Dunn would bat third if I had my druthers and Jr. 4th, Casey 5th. If they walk AD then at least they'd have to get 2 real hitters out.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 08:16 PM
Flyer, is there any way that you'd consider managing the Reds? That sort of insight is sorely lacking apparently from the top of the organization to the bottom.Just proof that any idiot can do it. Why can't the Reds get it right?

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:17 PM
Just proof that any idiot can do it. Why can't the Reds get it right?

Have you seen the movie Scanners?

CTA513
05-09-2005, 08:19 PM
Harang is off to a good start.
1-2-3 inning with 2 strike outs.

Im starting to think he stopped doing "pitch to contact". ;)

flyer85
05-09-2005, 08:20 PM
Have you seen the movie Scanners?don't believe I have.

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:21 PM
Felipe!!!

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:21 PM
Felipe is swinging the bat well.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:21 PM
Felipe Lopez continues to do well

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:22 PM
Please George don't mention DP depth

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:24 PM
Almost a "Casey" ball there. Griff double. Thanks for the run Peavy.

CTA513
05-09-2005, 08:24 PM
Griffey seems to be swinging the bat very well lately. :)

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:26 PM
Wow Flyer, you must be telepathic.

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:26 PM
Git-er-Dunn, a walk. Pitch around to get to Randa.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 08:27 PM
Dunn got Jr a pitch to hit but he is unlikely to see any

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:27 PM
BTW, with Peavy and his nasty slider Dunn will be ptiched around like Weaver did last night. He won't get anything to hit if the AB is important. Peavy and his slider will handle Randa and Aurilia.

You're right on it, Dunn walks.

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:27 PM
Two run double by Randa. Reds lead 3-0.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:28 PM
2 run double for Randa!!!

3-0 Reds

flyer85
05-09-2005, 08:28 PM
Guess Peavy should have stayed with the slider.

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 08:28 PM
Peavy rocked :beerme:

flyer85
05-09-2005, 08:29 PM
what was Giles doing out there?

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:29 PM
Wow, nice hustle by Aurilia to stretch that error by Giles.

4-0 Reds

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:29 PM
2 base error from Aurilia, Reds 4-0.

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:29 PM
Did they give Giles an error on Aurilia's bloop?

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:30 PM
Did they give Giles an error on Aurilia's bloop?

yes

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:30 PM
:randa: "I'll teach you to pitch around Dunn!"

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:30 PM
Wow, nice hustle by Aurilia to stretch that error by Giles.

4-0 Reds

He's solid...

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:31 PM
I hope that error doesn't keep Austin out of the lineup tomorrow. Austin deserves a fair shake.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 08:32 PM
Peavy is racking up that pitch count

OSUredsFAN
05-09-2005, 08:32 PM
Lets just HOPE they can hold on to it.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:32 PM
Valentin K's.

Headed to the 2nd, 4-0 Reds.

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:33 PM
I hope that error doesn't keep Austin out of the lineup tomorrow. Austin deserves a fair shake.

nonono, if Aurilia performs well then that necessitates that he NOT play tomorrow. That is our strategery: When you play well you sit, when you play poorly, you play.


btw, who's on first?

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:34 PM
28 pitches for Peavy.

NCRed
05-09-2005, 08:34 PM
Great first for the Reds. Just 6 more runs to get in a comfort zone (kidding...I hope!)

This may seal more bench time for Austin though.

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:34 PM
:valentin: Does anyone else expect Ashton Kutcher to jump out of the stands and tell us that we are getting Punk'd when this man is at the plate ;)

RedlegJake
05-09-2005, 08:35 PM
Lots of pitches for Peavey. Keep this up and get him out of there early.

RedlegJake
05-09-2005, 08:36 PM
I still hate this lineup but I won't argue with the first inning results.

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:38 PM
Would lopez have made that play?

flynn78
05-09-2005, 08:38 PM
Darn another guaranteed start for Aurilia ;)

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:38 PM
Hey, Aurilia did get his glove on it.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:38 PM
One word: YES

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:39 PM
Aurilia.....:rolleyes:

PickOff
05-09-2005, 08:39 PM
Hey, Aurilia did get his glove on it.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:39 PM
Aurilia MUCKS IT UP AGAIN

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:40 PM
That Aurilia is some kind of special player at SS...

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:40 PM
Lopez saved him to a degree there.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:40 PM
Lopez is the only reason there was 1 out made on that play...

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:40 PM
Lopez w/ a bail-out of Aurilia!

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:41 PM
Two impressive innings for Harang. He is actually getting ahead and staying ahead so far, unlike he usually does.

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:42 PM
My 100th post! No matter how this game or this season turns out, Being a Reds fan wouldn't be nearly as much fun w/o RedsZone. :)

CTA513
05-09-2005, 08:42 PM
Im so glad they got out of that inning with 0 runs.

Sean_CaseyRules
05-09-2005, 08:42 PM
Aurilia needs benched man, i would put jiminez in now.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:44 PM
I really like Peavy's pace of pitching.

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:44 PM
Aurilia needs benched man, i would put jiminez in now.

Kearns needs to be in ahead of Jimenez.

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:45 PM
I'd like to see that young kid Bergolla play a couple innings...

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:46 PM
Lopez flies out to left. 2 down

Casey coming up.

PickOff
05-09-2005, 08:46 PM
Miley: Nice work out there, Rich. Way to get a glove on those balls. . . .wait a little to the. . . .oh yeah, that's it. . .ahhh. . . .I really do like you.

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:46 PM
SB for Freel.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:46 PM
Freel steals 2nd.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:48 PM
Casey with an RBI 2B makes it 5-0 Reds!

Sean_CaseyRules
05-09-2005, 08:48 PM
Go Casey!!!!

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:48 PM
Casey with a gapper, scoring Freel. 5-0 Reds.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:48 PM
What team are we watching?

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 08:48 PM
Wow, Sean Casey actually drove in a run!!!!!

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:48 PM
YES!!! Small Ball! IF we can get ANY manufactured runs, this ship can get righted. (oh yeah, and fix the line-up, which has been discussed ad naseum)

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:49 PM
What team are we watching?
Don't know but I love what I'm seeing! :)

PickOff
05-09-2005, 08:49 PM
Nice one by Freel. I like getting him in the lineup. Good thing he can fill in just about anywhere, keep giving different folks rest.

Double for Casey!

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:50 PM
Don't know but I love what I'm seeing! :)

:beerme:

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:50 PM
Griff walks. Two on, two out for Dunn.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:50 PM
Griffey walks. Runners on 1st and 2nd. 2 out

Sean_CaseyRules
05-09-2005, 08:51 PM
Dunn will get 2 RBI's

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:52 PM
Dunn will get 2 RBI's

There's still time

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 08:52 PM
Dunn K's.

Sean_CaseyRules
05-09-2005, 08:53 PM
Well you can say im not very good at calling things....

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:54 PM
Does anyone know why the club waited till now to put WMP on DL? Has his injury gotten worse or something? Was he initially misdiagnosed?

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:55 PM
This is the most runs Peavy has given up in any one start this year.

We sometimes torch aces though...while getting beat by Shawn Estes. Just part of the mystery that is the Reds.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:55 PM
Does anyone know why the club waited till now to put WMP on DL? Has his injury gotten worse or something? Was he initially misdiagnosed?

I'm going with the idea that O'Brien was considering all options, both internal and external. He had to carefully and scientifically examine the situation before making a move.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:55 PM
Does anyone know why the club waited till now to put WMP on DL? Has his injury gotten worse or something? Was he initially misdiagnosed?

It's all about patience :D

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:56 PM
I'm going with the idea that O'Brien was considering all options, both internal and external. He had to carefully and scientifically examine the situation before making a move.

Is that what he calls that? :D

Sean_CaseyRules
05-09-2005, 08:56 PM
How do we do good against great teams, and good pitchers, but get beat by the worse teams...

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:57 PM
How do we do good against great teams, and good pitchers, but get beat by the worse teams...

The Cards and Dodgers are hardly bad teams.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 08:57 PM
How do we do good against great teams, and good pitchers, but get beat by the worse teams...

Like the Dodgers? Like the Cardinals? Like the Marlins? :confused:

Sean_CaseyRules
05-09-2005, 08:58 PM
Man we are playing great.

BRM
05-09-2005, 08:58 PM
Harang is looking good through 3 IP.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 08:59 PM
Is that what he calls that? :D

It's O'Brien-speak. Definitey a harder system/language than Latin. ;)

Am I imagining or is Harang actually being pitch efficient to the extreme?!

Sean_CaseyRules
05-09-2005, 08:59 PM
What i ment was over the years we have started off great and i remember last year, getting beat by the pirates and the brew-crew

WMR
05-09-2005, 08:59 PM
I'm going with the idea that O'Brien was considering all options, both internal and external. He had to carefully and scientifically examine the situation before making a move.

Was that comment approved by the Office of the General Manager? They might need a lawyer to go over the exact wording,,,

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:01 PM
Randa is raking again.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 09:02 PM
the reds do lead the league in doubles

ws1990reds
05-09-2005, 09:02 PM
Would lopez have made that play?

I think he would have. Just a step on the bag and throw it to first. Aurilia "The Elf Boss" should be making toys.

BRM
05-09-2005, 09:03 PM
Another "professional at-bat" by Aurilia.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:03 PM
Quite a player that Aurilia is ;)

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:06 PM
I'd rather have a struggling LaRue than a normal Javier Valentin. LaRue at least works pitchers.

RedlegNation
05-09-2005, 09:07 PM
That Aurilia is a great veteran.

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:09 PM
I say bring back Benito Santiago! I remember I was at a game when he played for the Reds, and you know how each player has their own little ditty, and his was the absolute funniest thing i had ever heard: it was like this little flute playing the most effiminate little ditty me and my buddy had ever heard. LOL i'll never forget that.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:10 PM
44 pitches through 4 IP for Harang.... 6 pitches that inning...wow! Is he really a Reds pitcher?

CTA513
05-09-2005, 09:11 PM
44 pitches through 4 IP for Harang.... pitches that inning...wow! Is he really a Reds pitcher?

Another good thing is hes only given up 1 hit 0BB and 4Ks.

:beerme:

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:12 PM
Rich Aurilla, a cagey veteran, that is holding this team together at this difficult time...great pickup DaN-0

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:14 PM
"Cagey" ---> I like it

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 09:15 PM
Lopez with a 2 bagger!

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:16 PM
Riddle me this: How many runs have the Reds lost out on this year w/ Felipe riding the pine?

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 09:16 PM
Felipe Lopez gets another hit.....this kid (I was tough on him the past couple years) is coming around.

He's worked hard and has earned his spot to play everyday.

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:16 PM
the kid has half the at bats of the cagey vet and double the hits

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 09:17 PM
Lopez is red hot right now. I bet Aurilia is keeping his distance or he would get burned.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 09:17 PM
side note: Felipe Lopez is another Jim Bowden find that has surpassed the Dan O'Brien finds

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:17 PM
That Roger Clemens guy is at it again. He has pitched 4 shutout innings of his own and has an ERA of under 1.20 on the year.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 09:18 PM
Casey flies out to left.

Headed to the 5th

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:19 PM
side note: Felipe Lopez is another Jim Bowden find that has surpassed the Dan O'Brien finds

Well, even a blind rat (Bowden) manages to find some cheese every now and then

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Too bad that Clemens can't get a run out of his squad to save his life.

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:20 PM
if I was Miley
here is the right lineup (note:wily mo on DL)

Mine: Miley's:
1 Freel, 2b Freel, of
2 Lopez, ss Lopez, 2b
3 Griffey, cf Casey, 1b
4 Kearns, of Griffey, cf
5 Dunn, of Randa, 3b
6 Casey, 1b Dunn, of
7 Randa, 3b Aurilla, ss
8 LaRue, C Valentin, c

if you had to guess, who do you think was the major league manager?

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 09:21 PM
Well, even a blind rat (Bowden) manages to find some cheese every now and then

Pena, Wagner, Lopez is 3 right there

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:22 PM
i didn't mind bowden

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:22 PM
Bowden was awful. O'Brien just appears to be worse.

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 09:23 PM
Pena, Wagner, Lopez is 3 right there

Show me the starting pitching?

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:23 PM
Harang suddenly getting hit hard. He is losing his control a bit and is giving up hits as a result.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Show me the starting pitching?

Can't...for either guy

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Marty is addressing an e-mail he got criticizing him for not "calling out" Miley for playing Aurilia every day.

E-mailer: "You, Marty, don't have the guts to call Miley out on the air. You are getting old and complacent."

This Aurilia hatred is starting to get a little ridiculous.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:25 PM
Cards up 1-0 on a Pujols HR in the 1st.(Over the Dodgers)

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:26 PM
what did marty say?

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Marty is addressing an e-mail he got criticizing him for not "calling out" Miley for playing Aurilia every day.

E-mailer: "You, Marty, don't have the guts to call Miley out on the air. You are getting old and complacent."

This Aurilia hatred is starting to get a little ridiculous.

not as ridiculous as losing 9 out of 10 games and possibly falling out of contention before the end of may!!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:27 PM
Pena, Wagner, Lopez is 3 right there

I would hardly classify Felipe Lopez as a "find." And certainly not on the same level as WMP and Ryan Wagner. Lopez's value is exaggerated by some Reds fans because of Rich Aurilia's ineptitude. He's almost getting the star treatment because of the intense hatred, by some, of Aurilia.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 09:28 PM
Marty let Miley get away with having Freel and Lopez competing with DJ and Kearns for PT. Aurilia didn't even come up. That is inexcusable considering Lopez has always been a SS

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:28 PM
what did marty say?

That's when the Padres scored so Marty was sidetracked and never got back to the e-mail. He was more making light of the e-mailer for calling him old.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 09:29 PM
That's when the Padres scored so Marty was sidetracked and never got back to the e-mail. He was more making light of the e-mailer for calling him old.

And that the emailer is a bad speller...

...the emailer said "... 3 lefties in a roll" instead of "...3 lefties in a row"

flyer85
05-09-2005, 09:29 PM
nice comeback by Harang.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:29 PM
Harang K's the side after the back-to-back doubles. 7 K's through 5 for him.

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 09:30 PM
Harang is extra nasty tonight, wonder if he can hold on 2 more innings?

CTA513
05-09-2005, 09:31 PM
Nice to see Harang adjust to getting hit and then striking out 3 people.

65 pitches through 5 innings.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:32 PM
I would hardly classify Felipe Lopez as a "find." And certainly not on the same level as WMP and Ryan Wagner. Lopez's value is exaggerated by some Reds fans because of Rich Aurilia's ineptitude. He's almost getting the star treatment because of the intense hatred, by some, of Aurilia.

Lopez is playing as well as anyone on the team right now, and appears on his way to turning into a very solid player.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:32 PM
Nice to see Harang adjust to getting hit and then striking out 3 people.


Sure would be nice if Mr. Milton would follow that example.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 09:33 PM
pitch was outside

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:33 PM
Good thing we got to Peavy over the first couple of innings, because it seems he's finding his groove to a degree.

KySteveH
05-09-2005, 09:34 PM
pitch was outside

Who this ump? He's called the pitch 0-4 inches outside a strike several times.

Edit: Just realized it's Bruce Dreckman, I'm pretty sure.

BRM
05-09-2005, 09:35 PM
Good thing we got to Peavy over the first couple of innings, because it seems he's finding his groove to a degree.

He definitely seems to have settled down a bit.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:35 PM
Who this ump? He's called the pitch 0-4 inches outside a strike several times.

He must have 10:30 dinner reservations at Jeff Ruby's.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 09:35 PM
Peavy really does a nice job of adding and subtracting from his fastball. He is between 88-92 but has been as fast as 94 and as slow as 86

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 09:37 PM
He must have 10:30 dinner reservations at Jeff Ruby's.

I'd want to leave too! :D

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:37 PM
:yikes:

I just went to my refridgerator to grab a beer only to discover I am all out. Now that's some scary stuff!

:help:

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:38 PM
sorry to hear that reds/flyers fan, that has to be disheartening...too bad you don't have a cagey vet as your roommate, he/she could have picked some up on the way home from work

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 09:39 PM
:yikes:

I just went to my refridgerator to grab a beer only to discover I am all out. Now that's some scary stuff!

:help:

Now that is a problem!!

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Aurilla is AWESOME!

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Aurilia with another fielding screw up :bang:

flyer85
05-09-2005, 09:40 PM
what happened to Mr steady

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Uh oh...Aurilia with an error.

Let the bashing begin...

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Aurilia is trying to help Miley do his job!

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Aurilia has been brutal tonight.

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:41 PM
he is much better than Kearns

BRM
05-09-2005, 09:41 PM
It gets more pathetic with each game.

flyer85
05-09-2005, 09:42 PM
Aurilia has been brutal tonight.remove the tonight and I will agree

Silverback
05-09-2005, 09:42 PM
Aurilia has been brutal tonight.

Just tonight?

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 09:43 PM
Harang's beginning to lose it

Nice comeback to a 3-0 count on Giles.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:43 PM
This would be a totally different situation right now if not for Aurilia's latest error...

BRM
05-09-2005, 09:43 PM
Aurilia has "earned" five or six more starts with his performance tonight.

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:44 PM
Guys, let's all not forget here: Just five years ago, this guy hit 37 home runs. That is a history of solid production. He is a known quantity, he is the veteran that we need at SS (hmmmmm... a veteran at SS,,,, didn't we usedta have one of those???)

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:47 PM
Wow, nice job by Harang!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:47 PM
Thanks Giles. Harang with a beautiful 6 innings tonight. Wouldn't it be nice if these kinds of starts were the norm around here?

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:48 PM
here comes the cagey vet, lets see what he does at the plate (after his brilliant effort in the field0

flyer85
05-09-2005, 09:48 PM
Thanks Giles. Harang with a beautiful 6 innings tonight. Wouldn't it be nice if these kinds of starts were the norm around here?we won't be finding out this year

BRM
05-09-2005, 09:48 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if these kinds of starts were the norm around here?

That would be refreshing.

CTA513
05-09-2005, 09:49 PM
Thanks Giles. Harang with a beautiful 6 innings tonight. Wouldn't it be nice if these kinds of starts were the norm around here?

I think these will be the kind of starts Harang has in his future starts. I think he has dropped that whole pitch to contact thing and is doing what works for him.

Im just glad Harang got out of the inning with 0 runs.

:beerme:

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:50 PM
Aurilia has done NOTHING right tonight.

BRM
05-09-2005, 09:50 PM
Rich flies out to right. One down.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 09:51 PM
I think these will be the kind of starts Harang has in his future starts. I think he has dropped that whole pitch to contact thing and is doing what works for him.

Im just glad Harang got out of the inning with 0 runs.

:beerme:

Maybe that's exactly what we need -- a pitching staff mutiny. Ditch the song and dance about "pitching to contact" and do whatever you want. The results certainly can't get any worse.

BRM
05-09-2005, 09:51 PM
Valentin singles. :eek:

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:52 PM
Valentin now has a .273 average, with 0 BB. He's so patient! I'll take a hit though...

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:52 PM
Aurilia has done NOTHING right tonight.

what are you talking about he hit that last one right on the head!!

also, he ''knocked down" a definite single up the middle, that lopez scooped to save the single!!

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:53 PM
Does Freel swing at the first pitch too often? That is one potential knock against him in comparison to D'Lo

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:54 PM
what are you talking about he hit that last one right on the head!!

also, he ''knocked down" a definite single up the middle, that lopez scooped to save the single!!

LOL, "knocked down?""""" HAHAHA: he bumbled what should have been a DP ball

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:56 PM
Freel averages almost 4 pitchers per AB, and draws a ton of walks. No beef from me.

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:58 PM
Is Bergolla faster than Freel?

butlerbulldogs
05-09-2005, 09:58 PM
wily mo

"knocked down" (sarcasm)

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 09:59 PM
I'm getting a bit worried now. I think Harang is striking too many hitters out to stay in the rotation. O'Brien will probably dump him because he doesn't follow orders in pitching to contact. ;)

WMR
05-09-2005, 09:59 PM
Sorry!!! Butler! My bad! LOL

BRM
05-09-2005, 09:59 PM
Another K from Harang. He looks really good tonight.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 10:00 PM
Greene flies out to first.

2 down

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 10:02 PM
What an outing from Harang:

7 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 K

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:02 PM
How about Aaron Harang? :clap:

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:05 PM
:clap: :harang: :clap:

Milton, Wilson, Ortiz, and Claussen: THAT is how it is supposed to be done

WMR
05-09-2005, 10:05 PM
Does anyone know about Bergolla's speed? Is he faster than Freel?

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:05 PM
Marty said Harang is going to pitch the eigth. Nobody is warming up. :thumbup:

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:05 PM
...it appears Aaron will go the 8th

BRM
05-09-2005, 10:06 PM
Casey with his second double of the night.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:08 PM
Griffey with a hit to right. That's all for Peavy.

BRM
05-09-2005, 10:09 PM
Griff singles. 1st and 3rd with one out for Dunn. Peavy is coming out.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:11 PM
Seanez in to face AD...Casey at third and Griffey at first

Walkerforpres
05-09-2005, 10:13 PM
Sac fly time? Please? :)

KySteveH
05-09-2005, 10:14 PM
Does anyone know about Bergolla's speed? Is he faster than Freel?

From what I have seen, he is a bit faster than Freel. IMO, Freel really isn't in the "elite" speed group, but he looks like he's hustling all the time.

BRM
05-09-2005, 10:15 PM
Dunn K's. I can only imagine what Marty is saying.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:15 PM
Dunn strikes out swinging. And AD is still searching for that extremely elusive sac fly.

WMR
05-09-2005, 10:15 PM
Yeah,,, I guess in comparison to everyone else on the squad, Freel looks like Rickey Henderson,,, would be nice to have a true speedster, tho.

BRM
05-09-2005, 10:17 PM
Randa K's looking. Inning over.

WMR
05-09-2005, 10:18 PM
I say give Daddy Wags the ninth inning tonight

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:19 PM
Reds strand 2. I don't understand why this team's runs always seem to come in bunches. Tonight it's 5 in the first couple of innings and then nothing. Or in other recent games is nothing until the 8th or 9th, and then they'll score a few. Why can't they seem to string together some consistent scoring throughout a game?

Maybe something like this:

021 102 03X

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:19 PM
I say give Daddy Wags the ninth inning tonight

...That's not in the book ;)

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:20 PM
Forget Graves. This team could sorely use a complete game.

WMR
05-09-2005, 10:20 PM
hey they just said he's warming up in the pen! yahoo!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:21 PM
C'mon Harang...get Roberts here.

WMR
05-09-2005, 10:21 PM
That's HOT

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:22 PM
Double Play!!!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:22 PM
In my best Mr. Burns voice: Excellent.

WMR
05-09-2005, 10:24 PM
Where has this team been the past month and a half?

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 10:24 PM
Wow, Harang!

8 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 8 K

Lopez can field :)

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:24 PM
Complete game
Complete game
Complete game

This pitching staff could really use one

CTA513
05-09-2005, 10:24 PM
Excellent outing by Harang.

I hope Wagner is coming in for the 9th.

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 10:25 PM
Complete game
Complete game
Complete game

This pitching staff could really use one

I wouldn't push him too much. Only Dusty's pitchers can get pushed like that.

WMR
05-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Welsch: "If you win the first game in a series, then you guarantee that you will not be swept."

Solid.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Mercker to pitch the 9th

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Welsch: "If you win the first game in a series, then you guarantee that you will not be swept."

Solid.

Now that's deep

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Merker to pitch the ninth. I disagree with the move but what a great outing by Aaron Harang -- easily the best of the year

CincyRedsFan30
05-09-2005, 10:28 PM
Aurilia is just so talented... I am beyond words.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:28 PM
Welsch: "If you win the first game in a series, then you guarantee that you will not be swept."


To borrow a line from Major League: "He's not the best color guy in the league for nothing."

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 10:30 PM
Merker or Weathers are who you bring into this situation. Graves and Wagner are your setup and closer's, Belisle is the long man rookie, Coffey is the rookie also and Stone just flat sucks, go with your vets, though with the way Weathers has been pitching, it is no surprise he was passed.

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 10:32 PM
Welsch: "If you win the first game in a series, then you guarantee that you will not be swept."

Solid.
LMAO!

I love Welsch and everything, but his announcing sucks.

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:32 PM
Wagner to pitch!!!! :thumbup:

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:33 PM
I think Graves stole Wagner's uniform :(

Aronchis
05-09-2005, 10:34 PM
Bad move by Miley, he is more concerned about job security than Wagner's future. This was the ideal night to get him 2 days straight of rest and he didn't take the oppourtunity. You don't bring in Wagner.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:34 PM
Yup...Dave Miley's golden touch remains intact. Take out a starter who's cruising, bring in a reliever who serves up a bomb to the first batter.

RedTeamGo!
05-09-2005, 10:35 PM
:bang:

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:35 PM
What the...??

Wags! What's going on?

Petitt33
05-09-2005, 10:35 PM
I hope you all aren't thinking what I'm thinking. :(

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:35 PM
Yup...Dave Miley's golden touch remains intact. Take out a starter who's cruising, bring in a reliever who serves up a bomb to the first batter.

Had he left Harang in there and the same thing happened would you be saying he should have pulled him?

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-09-2005, 10:35 PM
If this team manages to win a game here and there, I'm firmly convinced it's despite Dave Miley

Matt700wlw
05-09-2005, 10:35 PM
I hope you all aren't thinking what I'm thinking. :(

It may be Gravy time...:help: