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RedsIn07
05-10-2005, 06:17 PM
Starting Lineups
No. San Diego
1 Damian Jackson, 3B
2 Mark Loretta, 2B
3 Brian Giles, RF
4 Phil Nevin, 1B
5 Ramon Hernandez, C
6 Xavier Nady, CF
7 Miguel Ojeda, LF
8 Khalil Greene, SS
9 Brian Lawrence, P


No. Cincinnati
1 Felipe Lopez, 2B
2 Rich Aurilia, SS
3 Sean Casey, 1B
4 Ken Griffey Jr., CF
5 Adam Dunn, LF
6 Joe Randa, 3B
7 Austin Kearns, RF
8 Javier Valentin, C
9 Brandon Claussen, P

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 06:19 PM
Aurilia batting SECOND!!??? Please help me!

medford
05-10-2005, 06:20 PM
Well let me be the first to complain about Richie Rich starting over Freel.


Edit: Well okay, I'll settle to be the second to complain.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 06:20 PM
Aurilia batting second :laugh:

Go 0-6 and get raised up in the batting order. Defies any logic.

RedsIn07
05-10-2005, 06:21 PM
If Freel needs rest I can understand but if not its just stupid.

Chip R
05-10-2005, 06:21 PM
Starting Lineups

No. Cincinnati
1 Felipe Lopez, 2B
2 Rich Aurilia, SS
:lol: Ok, very funny. Now what's the real lineup?

TeamDunn
05-10-2005, 06:21 PM
Are they resting Freel in case he has to pitch tonight? :p:

WVPacman
05-10-2005, 06:22 PM
Its official Rich Aurilia is Dave Mileys long lost brother. :laugh:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 06:22 PM
I do like seeing back-to-back non-starts from LaBoo

flyer85
05-10-2005, 06:22 PM
nothing like that .230 OBP batting 2nd. Miley has lost all of his marbles. Maybe he will hit cleanup tomorrow

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 06:22 PM
Kearns 7th?

That settles it for me, Miley and Dan O don't like Kearns at all :(

Aurilia :rant:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 06:24 PM
nothing like that .230 OBP batting 2nd. Miley has lost all of his marbles. Maybe he will hit cleanup tomorrow

That's not going to happen...unless he goes 0-8 tonight.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 06:24 PM
Aurilia batting SECOND!!??? Please help me!

Castro or Aurilia......let's start a poll!

WVPacman
05-10-2005, 06:25 PM
Kearns 7th?

That settles it for me, Miley and Dan O don't like Kearns at all :(

Aurilia :rant:

KronoRed,go seek um boy im unloosing the rope so you better sharpen up them claws. :laugh:

SteelSD
05-10-2005, 06:25 PM
Well, that's the lineup listed at USAToday.com. If that's not a typo, then I believe it confirms that Dave Miley has officially lost his last marble.

What's Dan O'Brien's email again?

westofyou
05-10-2005, 06:27 PM
Terry Pendleton 1997 Reds .248/.320/.354 - 113 ab's - Cut in July

Rich Aurilia 2005 Reds .202/.232/.362 - 94 ab's - moved up in the order in the midst of a 1-10 showing over the last week and a half.

Makes ya miss Ray Knight.

WVPacman
05-10-2005, 06:27 PM
Somebody answer this question why does Miley have the guts to bench Larue but not RA. :confused:

flyer85
05-10-2005, 06:27 PM
is there a postal or email address for the Reds FO. I WILL write

westofyou
05-10-2005, 06:28 PM
What's Dan O'Brien's email again?

sisyphus@eternity.org

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 06:28 PM
KronoRed,go seek um boy im unloosing the rope so you better sharpen up them claws. :laugh:
http://www.mgm.com/mgm/uk_images/box-dvd/HANG_EM_HIGH_DVD_hires.jpg

Ben from Cincy
05-10-2005, 06:30 PM
Either Aurilla has some serious dirt on someone or Miley has no baseball sense at all.

Petitt33
05-10-2005, 06:31 PM
I'm seriously goin' to puke! :thumbdown

SteelSD
05-10-2005, 06:32 PM
Reds- Current May forced smallball update:

Stolen Bases: 2-for-4

Bunting for Hits: 0-for-5 (2 Foul Balls, 3 Outs)

That is all.

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 06:32 PM
I like it! We gonna Win tonight.

WVPacman
05-10-2005, 06:34 PM
I like it! We gonna Win tonight.


RA is this you?? LOL just playing with you man ;)

WVPacman
05-10-2005, 06:37 PM
Who's the rookie thats making his ml debut for SD??

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 06:37 PM
I like it! We gonna Win tonight.

Share whatever it is you are drinking ;)

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 06:41 PM
Maybe this is a late April Fools joke by Miley and crew ;)

kyred14
05-10-2005, 06:42 PM
i really want to get mad, i just can't develop the emotions

TeamDunn
05-10-2005, 06:43 PM
Our team stinks so bad Real Reds is interviewing the opposition! :p:

And then rub into us that he got his start here! (Trevor Hoffman).

HotCorner
05-10-2005, 06:43 PM
1 Felipe Lopez, 2B
2 Rich Aurilia, SS


:explode: :doh: :all_cohol :angry: :bang: :help:

HotCorner
05-10-2005, 06:44 PM
Btw ... :miley: is :owned: by :aurilia:

WVPacman
05-10-2005, 06:47 PM
Well guys i'll be back after the game talk to you later!! :beerme:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 06:55 PM
is there a postal or email address for the Reds FO. I WILL write

Cincinnati Reds
100 Main St.
Cincinnati OH 45202

jfar23
05-10-2005, 07:00 PM
I like it. Casey won't be able to hit into as many double plays and maybe his trade stock will go up :beerme:

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:00 PM
anybody else notice that Miley has a different tone in his voice? Sounds tense and agitated to me

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 07:04 PM
anybody else notice that Miley has a different tone in his voice? Sounds tense and agitated to me

A precursor to a firing? :confused:

Joseph
05-10-2005, 07:06 PM
LaRue is out, but Aurilia is still in? Insanity.

Tony Cloninger
05-10-2005, 07:08 PM
LaRue is just as bad if not worse of a hitter right now.........both deserve bench time very badly.

This is comically really....akin to batting Ed Armbrister leadoff in 1976.
But hey....Sparky did do that against SD and he homered twice!! :evil:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:12 PM
Marty's already on Claussen for not putting the batter away

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 07:14 PM
Singing: "Here come the hits.... here comes hits....(but I don't care)...it's alright...(da da da da da da da da) Sun, Sun, Sun....."

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:15 PM
i'm not sure I can take another night of this

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:16 PM
Singing: "Here come the hits.... here comes hits....(but I don't care)...it's alright...(da da da da da da da da) Sun, Sun, Sun....."how about the Long and Winding Road

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:17 PM
3-2 on Jackson...hit
3-2 on Loretta...walk

Here we go. cLOSSen trying to duplicate Paul Wilson's start

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:17 PM
how about the Long and Winding Road

Or "I've Got a Feeling"...or "I'm a Loser"

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:20 PM
I wonder if Phil Nevin has second thoughts about pulling the plug on the trade here for Griffey a few years ago..... ;)

Petitt33
05-10-2005, 07:22 PM
We somehow got out of the inning without allowing anything!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:24 PM
Nice bunt by Felipe. That's what we need in a leadoff hitter...someone who can actually find a way to get on base.

TeamDunn
05-10-2005, 07:24 PM
Lopez, bunt single!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:25 PM
Marty: "A lot of raised eyebrows among the media when they saw the lineup tonight."

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:25 PM
woohoo DP lane baby, way to go Davey

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:26 PM
Aurilia kills that rally

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:26 PM
Aurilia follows his 0-6 night last night by grounding into a first pitch double play in his first at bat tonite.

Tony Cloninger
05-10-2005, 07:26 PM
BC seems to pitch games like this....works counts full or close to it...then manages to get out of it here and there....but then by the 4th or 5th he is gassed and it all implodes on him.

Or maybe that was his last start and it just feels like he does this. :laugh:

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:26 PM
Aurilia kills that rallyis that a broken record

TeamDunn
05-10-2005, 07:27 PM
Marty: "A lot of raised eyebrows among the media when they saw the lineup tonight."

:thumbup:

The media reads Redszone! :laugh:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:28 PM
At this point I think Dave Miley is just going to force Aurilia into the lineup as long as he's here. It seems as if it has almost become personal with him -- this is my team and I'm going to do what I want.

TeamDunn
05-10-2005, 07:28 PM
WHY DO THEY SWING ON THE FIRST PITCH???

And in the first inning???

Make the pitcher work a little for Pete's sake! :bang:

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:29 PM
WHY DO THEY SWING ON THE FIRST PITCH???

And in the first inning???

Make the pitcher work a little for Pete's sake! :bang:

Leave Pete out of this...

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:30 PM
WHY DO THEY SWING ON THE FIRST PITCH???

And in the first inning???

Make the pitcher work a little for Pete's sake! :bang:

Isn't there a mandate in the Reds' minor leagues that they have to take at least one pitch?

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 07:30 PM
Leave Pete out of this...

Pete would bet against any team with Aurilia in the lineup ;)

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:32 PM
Hal and Marty saying that there is speculation in the CLUBHOUSE that O'Brien is forcing Miley's hand to play Aurilia!

That is not a good situation!!!!

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:32 PM
Hal said he was shocked Aurilia was in the lineup, much less than batting second. Hal says there is talk in the clubhouse that Miley is being told who to play and by more than just a few players

Tony Cloninger
05-10-2005, 07:32 PM
DO did not want DM......DO sticks him with RA....so DM says OK...you did not want me and then you stick me with the 2nd coming of Johnny LeMaster....here he is...playing every day beacuse you wanted him. So now he is daring Do to fire him?

TeamDunn
05-10-2005, 07:33 PM
Miley needs to stop being a Yes Sir kind of guy. What is worse? Listening to your boss and losing or not listening and winning! :p:

Either way he will be gone soon.

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:34 PM
Miley, DanO, Casey and Randa in a private meeting for over an hour this afternoon

BRM
05-10-2005, 07:34 PM
Hal said he was shocked Aurilia was in the lineup, much less than batting second. Hal says there is talk in the clubhouse that Miley is being told who to play and by more than just a few players

If that is true, it is disgraceful. DanO has GOT to go...

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:35 PM
Hal McCoy was on with Marty in the top of the second:

McCoy said he was shocked that Aurilia was in the lineup, hitting .200 and not playing well. Said he talked to Freel before the game and Freel was also "stunned."

Said there is even some talk among the players that Miley is being forced to play Aurilia. Also said some players think Miley may be managing not to lose than to win.

Marty said he never could have imagined that this team would be 11-20 at this point. McCoy said its the way that this team loses ballgames that has surprised him.

Marty said that there was an interesting meeting in Miley's office today...Miley, O'Brien, Randa and Casey behind closed doors for about an hour around 4 p.m. this afternoon.

McCoy said Miley told him that the meeting was to make sure that "everybody was on the same page."

Raisor
05-10-2005, 07:35 PM
Miley, DanO, Casey and Randa in a private meeting for over an hour this afternoon


Who danced with whom?

BRM
05-10-2005, 07:36 PM
Miley, DanO, Casey and Randa in a private meeting for over an hour this afternoon

Why Casey and Randa?

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 07:36 PM
Dan O..you can't be the manager too.

Aronchis
05-10-2005, 07:36 PM
The whole Aurilia thing has got to be a embarrasement among the players and coaches. They know the guy stinks but "somebody" really likes him and since he is "the boss", he has to play.

Claussen needs to begin searching for a new career path IMO.

TeamDunn
05-10-2005, 07:38 PM
Casey was teaching Randa the proper hugging technique?

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:38 PM
If Miley is being forced to play Rich Aurilia, as McCoy said is being discussed in the clubhouse, this club is in much worse shape than I thought. That is absolutely unbelievable that DanO is telling the manager who to play.

And if players are starting to complain about this, it could get real ugly.

Tony Cloninger
05-10-2005, 07:38 PM
If what Hal's says is true.....then basically DO has incredible gall and feels like the people running this team (Linder) will let him get away with anything.

I just cannot believe this is true......beacuse it also means Allen has no power in regards to this situation. Not to get more confusing then my previous post....but JA did not want DO...who did not want DM.

DO sabotages? DM ...he gets fired and then Allen leaves or gets fired also?

Is DO ...Rasputin??

BRM
05-10-2005, 07:39 PM
Claussen needs to begin searching for a new career path IMO.

So does DanO and Miley.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 07:39 PM
Dan O..you can't be the manager too.

I have no problem with a GM telling a manager whom to play. I think O'Brien is crazy bad at it, but he's the one in charge.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:40 PM
If what Hal's says is true.....then basically DO has incredible gall and feels like the people running this team (Linder) will let him get away with anything.

I just cannot believe this is true......beacuse it also means Allen has no power in regards to this situation. Not to get more confusing then my previous post....but JA did not want DO...who did not want DM.

DO sabotages? DM ...he gets fired and then Allen leaves or gets fired also?

Is DO ...Rasputin??

Cool...a conspiracy theory. And a very plausible one at that.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 07:40 PM
And if players are starting to complain about this, it could get real ugly.

Players counting down the days till they can get out (Dunn, Kearns, Pena, Lopez)

A lineup fulls of Randas and Aruilias.

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:40 PM
Obviously something is going on. Something went afoul inside of a tomato.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:41 PM
Kearns with a hit! Reds lead 1-0

He absolutely must play EVERY DAY with Pena out. Hear that DanO?

Tony Cloninger
05-10-2005, 07:41 PM
Does not Billy Bean basically dictate to his manager's what or who they need to play? That's how i read it in Moneyball.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:42 PM
I have no problem with a GM telling a manager whom to play. I think O'Brien is crazy bad at it, but he's the one in charge.

Mike Brown did similar crap for 14 years...finally he learned the coach is there for a reason

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:42 PM
Valentin delivers a sac fly. Reds up 2-0

BRM
05-10-2005, 07:42 PM
Meanwhile...Kearns with a RBI double. Valentin with a sac fly. 2-0 Reds.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:43 PM
Kearns: 1-1

Aurilia: 0-1

:)

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:43 PM
During the pregame Marty asked Miley about Kearns playing tomorrow. Miley would only say he is trying to get everybody in there and that freel was off today and would not commit to Kearns playing no matter what happens today. Obviously Kearns getting hits and playing well tonight has little to do with it.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 07:44 PM
Mike Brown did similar crap for 14 years...finally he learned the coach is there for a reason


football isn't baseball.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:44 PM
During the pregame Marty asked Miley about Kearns playing tomorrow. Miley would only say he is trying to get everybody in there and that freel was off today and would not commit to Kearns playing no matter what happens today. Obviously Kearns getting hits and playing well tonight has little to do with it.

Maybe he has to wait for DanO to give him the ok....hell, maybe DanO makes the lineup!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:44 PM
This team has to be the most interesting bad team in the history of baseball. It's a regular soap opera. What ever happened to WLW's "All My Reds" ?

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:44 PM
football isn't baseball.

I know, bad analogy probably, but the Reds are headed down that all too miserable path

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 07:44 PM
I have no problem with a GM telling a manager whom to play. I think O'Brien is crazy bad at it, but he's the one in charge.

He should fire himself

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:45 PM
This team has to be the most interesting bad team in the history of baseball. It's a regular soap opera. What ever happened to WLW's "All My Reds" ?

I'm sure Gary and the Boys will bring it back...

TeamDunn
05-10-2005, 07:45 PM
Maybe he has to wait for DanO to give him the ok....hell, maybe DanO makes the lineup!

THAT would explain the delay in making the lineups public! ;)

Raisor
05-10-2005, 07:46 PM
He should fire himself


If I was him, I'd suspend myself with pay.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:46 PM
Aurilia has seen 2 pitches and has made 3 outs.

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:46 PM
No DP for RA. He might have pulled a muscle, WOOHOO ... er I mean that's unfortunate

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:46 PM
Aurilia is hurt...

Aronchis
05-10-2005, 07:46 PM
Considering that DanO pretty much leaves all the drafting to Terry Renyolds, why would he be such a strongman with Miley? Delegate in one area, be a dictator in another area?.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 07:47 PM
Aurillia pulls up lame.

Maybe they told him that if he wants to continue pulling in a paycheck that an "injury" and a trip to the dl would be the only way.

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 07:47 PM
FeLo to SS and does Freel come in and play 2nd now? or is it DJ?

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:47 PM
Considering that DanO pretty much leaves all the drafting to Terry Renyolds, why would he be such a strongman with Miley? Delegate in one area, be a dictator in another area?.because he didn't want Miley in the first place.

jhiller21
05-10-2005, 07:48 PM
Aurilia tweaked something there.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:48 PM
No DP for RA. He might have pulled a muscle, WOOHOO ... er I mean that's unfortunate

Conspiracy alert! He is faking an injury to indirectly take some of the heat off the FO.

reds44
05-10-2005, 07:48 PM
RICH IS HURT, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hehe

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 07:48 PM
Aurillia pulls up lame.

Maybe they told him that if he wants to continue pulling in a paycheck that an "injury" and a trip to the dl would be the only way.

Can't be released when you're on the DL...

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 07:48 PM
DJ to 2nd base.

Aronchis
05-10-2005, 07:49 PM
I wonder if he really is hurt or if this isn't part of a conspiracy to let things cool off in the clubhouse since Aurilia is darn near causing mutiny ;)

Tony Cloninger
05-10-2005, 07:49 PM
Football ain't baseball as in the game on the field.....but in FO stupidity...is there much of a diffrence between this FO and the old Bengals one in terms of not knowing what they are doing in player personnel and drafting?

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:49 PM
The thing is obviously the manager and GM have lost control when there is open speculation that the FO is drawing up lineups

bha
05-10-2005, 07:49 PM
I would never wish an injury on anyone, but thank goodness!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:49 PM
Could that have been Aurilia's last at bat as a Cincinnati Red?

Petitt33
05-10-2005, 07:50 PM
Aurilia is going out of the game. :thumbup:

2001MUgrad
05-10-2005, 07:50 PM
DJ on second,

That's as freakin bad as Rich at SS. Did I miss something is Freel hurt?? These AAA has beens are killing this team.

flyer85
05-10-2005, 07:50 PM
Claussen is actually throwing well tonight ... I know, bite my tongue

Raisor
05-10-2005, 07:50 PM
Can't be released when you're on the DL...

which is why I said "If he wants to continue to pull a paycheck".

Consiracy theory:

DanO tells Aurillia that he likes him, but can't keep him on the roster. He advises him now would be a good time to come up "hurt" where they can stash him on the DL.

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 07:50 PM
LOL -- This is good...


I've seen 2 nuns in the stands tonight and just saw Santa.

2001MUgrad
05-10-2005, 07:50 PM
Claussen is actually throwing well tonight ... I know, bite my tongue

Wait till its time for the BP to close the game down.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:51 PM
Claussen is actually throwing well tonight ... I know, bite my tongue

Unless he can go 9 innings will it even matter?

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 07:53 PM
Don't NEED him to go 9 innings... Just 8 would be fine if our Pen shows up tonight.

2001MUgrad
05-10-2005, 07:53 PM
When was the last time the Pen did show up??

CincyReds2003
05-10-2005, 07:53 PM
Don't NEED him to go 9 innings... Just 8 would be fine if our Pen shows up tonight.

Yeah and pigs fly!

reds44
05-10-2005, 07:54 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Mercker can be the closer?

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 07:54 PM
Casey, JR, Dunn due up... Lets get some runs.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:54 PM
Claussen has retired 9 straight :eek:

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 07:55 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Mercker can be the closer?


I've said it before....

We have a few on the team that CAN be one...

Graves :rolleyes:
Wager
Weathers
Mercker
Ortiz
Hudson

CincyReds2003
05-10-2005, 07:57 PM
At least Casey can't ground out into a DP

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 07:57 PM
LOL -- This is good...


I've seen 2 nuns in the stands tonight and just saw Santa.

I'm kind of afraid now :help:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:58 PM
Casey needs to get the ball in the air...no more ground balls

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 07:58 PM
From what i've seen it takes about 2 weeks for miley to do something...

So, I'm guessing if Casey isn't knocking the cover off the ball by next homestand we could see him moved in the batting order.

CincyReds2003
05-10-2005, 07:58 PM
LOL -- This is good...


I've seen 2 nuns in the stands tonight and just saw Santa.

At least you didn't see that freaky Burger King mascot..That guy is scary.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 07:59 PM
Griffey looks at strike 3

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 07:59 PM
I'm kind of afraid now :help:


What are you saying.... The Bullpen might do well tonight.

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:01 PM
When JR stuck out I saw Wilson, Milton and Harrang change spots on how they were sitting... What are they trying to do? Change our luck?

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:01 PM
What are you saying.... The Bullpen might do well tonight.

Unless they are padre fans ;)

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:02 PM
At least you didn't see that freaky Burger King mascot..That guy is scary.

I dunno, them Cavemen guys from that tv ad is kinda freaky....

schroomytunes
05-10-2005, 08:03 PM
I like the idea of Hudson being our closer, he has nasty stuff, and being a closer gives his arm a break from all the wear and tear of starting.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:03 PM
When JR stuck out I saw Wilson, Milton and Harrang change spots on how they were sitting... What are they trying to do? Change our luck?

Harang needs to sit as far away from those HR machines as possible.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:04 PM
I like the idea of Hudson being our closer, he has nasty stuff, and being a closer gives his arm a break from all the wear and tear of starting.

Are you saying Graves should go back to starting? ;)

Raisor
05-10-2005, 08:04 PM
I haven't seen my McGriddles girl in a week.

I hope she didn't hook up with loser guy.

CincyReds2003
05-10-2005, 08:05 PM
I dunno, them Cavemen guys from that tv ad is kinda freaky....


I don't know...it kind of freaks me out after watching that ad where that BK Guy is outside that guy's window with an omelete sandwich. His head is gargantuan.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:06 PM
Strained left hamstring for Aurilia. He's being listed as "day-to-day."

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:06 PM
I haven't seen my McGriddles girl in a week.

I hope she didn't hook up with loser guy.

I doubt he ever got the signals ;)

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:07 PM
I don't know...it kind of freaks me out after watching that ad where that BK Guy is outside that guy's window with an omelete sandwich. His head is gargantuan.

He was stalking Leno last night during one skit. That thing is freaky.

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:08 PM
Strained left hamstring for Aurilia. He's being listed as "day-to-day."

darn!!!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:10 PM
Well if (and that is an extremely large IF) the team can somehow, some way, find a way to reel off 3 or 4 wins without Aurilia, maybe Miley/DanO get the painfully obvious message.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:11 PM
Claussen went down on that ball. Training staff heading out

reds44
05-10-2005, 08:11 PM
Man maybe there is some conspiracy theory, because the info on Aurilla came out fast!

Uh-oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Claussen!

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:11 PM
ouch!!

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:11 PM
darn!!!

You can't be released on the DL....

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:12 PM
He got hit on the left shoulder...not exactly what a left-handed pitcher needs.

Man when it rains it pours around here. Claussen pitching very well and he gets hurt and now the bullpen comes on in the 4th. Great...just great!

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:12 PM
It's amazing....Claussen is cruising, he's got a lead, and now he's hurt

The bullpen has to come in EARLY

...the Reds can't catch a break

2001MUgrad
05-10-2005, 08:12 PM
Strained left hamstring for Aurilia. He's being listed as "day-to-day."

PUT HIM ON THE DL. AAA or AA players can NOT be any worse.

2001MUgrad
05-10-2005, 08:13 PM
not good. Stick a fork in this game, its done

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:13 PM
This is salt in the wounds...not only are the Reds 11-20, but now players are dropping like flies. Two forced out of today's game, Pena and Weber on the DL. What next?

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:14 PM
If it wasn't for bad luck we would have any luck.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:14 PM
PUT HIM ON THE DL. AAA or AA players can NOT be any worse.

You can't be RELEASED on the DL....not saying that's in the plans, but if there's any chance of it, you need him "day to day"

2001MUgrad
05-10-2005, 08:14 PM
if you want to count Aurilla.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:15 PM
The Reds lead 2-0 but you would have to say the Padres are in the drivers' seat here. Did we get a big enough lead to withstand this bullpen?

fisch11
05-10-2005, 08:15 PM
Oh lord, Starbucks is in.

2001MUgrad
05-10-2005, 08:16 PM
You can't be RELEASED on the DL....not saying that's in the plans, but if there's any chance of it, you need him "day to day"

Good Point. Its about time to see Dano's boy Romano up anyway.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:16 PM
So now that Claussen's out...who gets to start on 3 days rest next?

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:17 PM
Oh lord, Starbucks is in.

Starbucks? This guy is more like Meijer brand coffee

CincyReds2003
05-10-2005, 08:18 PM
Starbucks? This guy is more like Meijer brand coffee


We need the Bong up here! :devil:

fisch11
05-10-2005, 08:18 PM
Starbucks? This guy is more like Meijer brand coffee

We could get a nickname like that going.
Or>>> Folger's, Maxwell House, etc.

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 08:19 PM
Like Sands through the hourglass, so are the Days of the Reds......

I haven't wanted to mention it too strongly, but as I've been hinting at latley, O'Brien is seemingly forcing Miley into doing MANY things. The more guys close to the team I talk to, the more I am convinced of that.

Injuries aren't good either, but in Aurilia's case, maybe God is sending the idiots in charge a message. And I'm not laughing about someone getting hurt either, but really. Wow.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:19 PM
We could call him Juan Valdez

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:22 PM
Claussen's injury is a sprained left ankle....(FROM FALLING)

CincyReds2003
05-10-2005, 08:22 PM
Sprained left ankle for Claussen.

Gainesville Red
05-10-2005, 08:23 PM
Valentin just wanted to show Kearns how to properly ground into a double play.

schroomytunes
05-10-2005, 08:23 PM
Well maybe coffey can have a good outing and gain some confidence. :thumbup:

Aronchis
05-10-2005, 08:24 PM
and the injury parade continues.

Tommyjohn25
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
IMO, the only injury that may have a long term effect is Claussen, Pena's DL date is retro so he won't be gone long, Weber and RA...Please....I for one won't miss them.

CincyReds2003
05-10-2005, 08:28 PM
Answer to your scoreboard stumper....4 rookies of the year in the 80s that played in the 90s for the Reds.....Vince Coleman, Chris Sabo, Jerome Walton, Benito Santiago.

Tommyjohn25
05-10-2005, 08:30 PM
Nice job by Coffey there.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:32 PM
Reds pitchers are just not allowed to have any kind of success. Claussen pitches well so he sprains his ankle on the mound. Reminds me of Jose Acevedo slipping on the dugout steps at Dodger Stadium when he was pitching very well.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:33 PM
Felipe with a ground rule double. He better be in the lineup to stay.

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:33 PM
I like this kid we call FeLo.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:34 PM
Lopez continues to prove his point

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 08:34 PM
That Lopez can swing the bat ;)

Aronchis
05-10-2005, 08:34 PM
Felipe may be the best SS since 99 Barry Larkin if the Reds would let him play at SS.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:35 PM
It's time for Casey to start swinging the bat. Now

fisch11
05-10-2005, 08:35 PM
Lopez used to have no respect from me. But his work ethic must have improved drastically this year, because the performance is definitely up offensively. Errors are down some, but still an area for more improvement. Great hitting thus far though.

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 08:36 PM
Lopez should be playing short and I'd like to see Bergolla at least get a start or two at second before he is sent back down.

By the by, the reason Hudson is being groomed for bp duty anymore is simple. He has real trouble getting loose enough to pitch effectively. Luke's a starter through and through.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:37 PM
Casey :eek:

That's what we need out of him. Get the ball in the air!

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:37 PM
That's better, Casey

Aronchis
05-10-2005, 08:38 PM
Casey showing "some" signs of power. I am not sure if "Dirty Deeds" Casey or "1999/2004" Casey will be the final outcome yet.

RDriesen16
05-10-2005, 08:38 PM
I have no problem with a GM telling a manager whom to play. I think O'Brien is crazy bad at it, but he's the one in charge.

what the hell do you hire a manager for then. just save the money and be a gm/coach. seriously, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. you are hired by someone else to get players and coaches. the coaches coach the player, the players play. if you are the gm, you DONT coach.

OBORING MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:38 PM
Lopez used to have no respect from me. But his work ethic must have improved drastically this year, because the performance is definitely up offensively. Errors are down some, but still an area for more improvement. Great hitting thus far though.

Same here. I was solidly in the Aurilia camp to start the season and I defended him for awhile. But in an epiphany, it is so clear to me now that Felipe Lopez needs to play shortstop on a regular basis.

RDriesen16
05-10-2005, 08:39 PM
Players counting down the days till they can get out (Dunn, Kearns, Pena, Lopez)

A lineup fulls of Randas and Aruilias.

another reason OBORING MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 08:40 PM
Have I mentioned that I want Lopez starting since before the season began?

Have I mentioned that I want Freel starting over Jimenez?

Have I mentioned that I really like the Randa signing?

RDriesen16
05-10-2005, 08:40 PM
football isn't baseball.

are you freakin serious. please, go away man.

fisch11
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Jr. idle on 13 game hitting streak. Jr.'s longest hitting streak is 18 games with the '99 Mariners. (source: Marty)

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Have I mentioned that I want Lopez starting since before the season began?

Have I mentioned that I want Freel starting over Jimenez?

Have I mentioned that I really like the Randa signing?

Don't know -- Have you??

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Jackson homers on the first pitch of the inning. His first HR of the season.

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Blah -- Lead off homer to the lead off hitter.... ick.

flyer85
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
that straight fastball of Coffey scares me, he needs to use the splitter more

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:43 PM
are you freakin serious. please, go away man.

That wasn't necessary

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 08:44 PM
Don't know -- Have you??

To answer all three questions:

Yes

Yes

Yes

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:44 PM
Coffee's getting cold.

flyer85
05-10-2005, 08:44 PM
better fire up the pen, gasoline is on the way to douse the fire

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:44 PM
Stone warming up

The_jbh
05-10-2005, 08:45 PM
have faith i think Coffey will come back and end this inning. This should be his last inning though. He is no long reliever

CincyRedsFan30
05-10-2005, 08:45 PM
Coffee's getting cold.

Better send it to McDonald's. ;)

Tommyjohn25
05-10-2005, 08:45 PM
are you freakin serious. please, go away man.

If you have a problem with Raisor, maybe you should try the PM function. This is a game thread, let's keep it that way.

fisch11
05-10-2005, 08:46 PM
Starbucks stock down 60 points.

RDriesen16
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
If you have a problem with Raisor, maybe you should try the PM function. This is a game thread, let's keep it that way.

if you have a problem with me, maybe you should try the PM function. This is a game thread, lets keep it that way. :) :) seriously, though, you didnt use it either. the guy is awefully annoying, and i posted about it. it took you more time responding to me than if you just went on to the next post

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
What a throw by Jr!!!!

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
Junior!!!!!!

Wow!!!

flyer85
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
that was a great throw by jr

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
WOW!

Great throw by JR.... BULLSEYE!

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
This is why there is ORG. I'm warming to the concept more and more.

fisch11
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
And he can't play defense anymore? Pssssh!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
the guy is awefully annoying, and i posted about it.

That wasn't necessary either

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 08:49 PM
Junior is just getting started now its getting warm. Man I hope he stays healthy, gets a monster mid summer going and we have a chance to move him.

fisch11
05-10-2005, 08:49 PM
Starbucks out, Pebble in.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:50 PM
Junior is just getting started now its getting warm. Man I hope he stays healthy, gets a monster mid summer going and we have a chance to move him.

A monster full season by Griffey sure would help to take some of the sting of this season away. We have never seen the real Griffey and I would love to see it at least once.

The_jbh
05-10-2005, 08:50 PM
thats the 3rd or 4th great throw by Griffey in the past week.

He's been hitting well and fielding well... where are all those griffey h8rs haha

but seriously he has been playing well and its a good thing because as much as some people want him to leave he'll be here for awhile

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 08:51 PM
I'm feeling worse as the bullpen goes on. Maybe they'll get to Freel and we'll get a real pitcher in there.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:52 PM
thats the 3rd or 4th great throw by Griffey in the past week.

He's been hitting well and fielding well... where are all those griffey h8rs haha

but seriously he has been playing well and its a good thing because as much as some people want him to leave he'll be here for awhile

I don't want him to leave....but financially, it'd be best (of course the real question is...what would the FO do with the money?)

Raisor
05-10-2005, 08:52 PM
what the hell do you hire a manager for then. just save the money and be a gm/coach. seriously, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. you are hired by someone else to get players and coaches. the coaches coach the player, the players play. if you are the gm, you DONT coach.

OBORING MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I think OBrien is terrible at his job, and never should have been hired in the first place. I think he should be fired yesterday and replaced (If Larry Dierker can't manage anymore for health reasons, maybe he can GM..hmmmmm)

All that being said, I have no problem with whomever is the GM telling the field manager who to play. The GM is the man when it comes to the players. He should have the final say.

If Miley wants to lead Aurillia off, I'd want O'Brien telling him he was crazy and not to do it.

If I was O'Brien, I'd tell Miley to bat Dunn higher, or look for another job.

flyer85
05-10-2005, 08:53 PM
looks to get ugly

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 08:53 PM
I don;t want Junior to leave. I want what's best for the Reds, though and at this point freeing up that payroll will help position us. In a perfect world he'd get healthy, finish his career with a bang and in Red.

schroomytunes
05-10-2005, 08:53 PM
I dont want him to go, but if it makes the team better than yeah he's gotta go, and I only say this because of his injury history. :cry:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:54 PM
I don't want him to leave....but financially, it'd be best (of course the real question is...what would the FO do with the money?)

I can picture Lindner and Allen rolling the $500 bills up and smoking them

Aronchis
05-10-2005, 08:54 PM
Ricky, you are killing me pal.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 08:54 PM
I can picture Lindner and Allen rolling the $500 bills up and smoking them

So can I....if they're going to pocket it, then Griffey should stay

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 08:55 PM
Raisor, I understand your point (and agree with it to an extent) but my comeback would be - if the GM has to squash such stupid ideas in the first place he ought to be hiring a new manager instead of managing the manager.

fisch11
05-10-2005, 08:56 PM
I think Ricky Stone and Javier Valentin might just be seperated at birth brothers....gameday photos look awfully alike!

The_jbh
05-10-2005, 08:56 PM
Yeah double play! out of that jam

flyer85
05-10-2005, 08:56 PM
DJ is just awful turning the DP

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:56 PM
Reds winning and Cards losing :thumbup:

How's that for optimism?

Tommyjohn25
05-10-2005, 08:57 PM
Nice DP! At least Stone seems to be able to get the occasional ground ball. Nice Work.

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 08:57 PM
We need Bong to at least the bullpen jokes complete: Coffee and Gravy, Stoner and Bong.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 08:58 PM
Raisor, I understand your point (and agree with it to an extent) but my comeback would be - if the GM has to squash such stupid ideas in the first place he ought to be hiring a new manager instead of managing the manager.

O'Brien didn't hire Miley, he was forced on him, which means I doubt he can fire him.

O'Brien's the head in the noose, he should get the final say on all personel decesions. He's just terrible at it.

Tommyjohn25
05-10-2005, 08:58 PM
We need Bong to at least the bullpen jokes complete: Coffee and Gravy, Stoner and Bong.

:laugh: nice!

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 08:58 PM
We need Bong to at least the bullpen jokes complete: Coffee and Gravy, Stoner and Bong.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 08:58 PM
I don;t want Junior to leave. I want what's best for the Reds, though and at this point freeing up that payroll will help position us. In a perfect world he'd get healthy, finish his career with a bang and in Red.

I'd like Griffey to have the kind of season that would at least help the argument that he might wear a Reds hat in the Hall of Fame.

The_jbh
05-10-2005, 08:58 PM
did someone in our bullpen just get us out of a jam...

WHOA

Stone hasnt been too terrible since being up

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 09:01 PM
"Stone hasnt been too terrible since being up"

No he hasn't. But compared to the other guys in our pen...well...I AM rooting for Freel to get a shot. He can do everything else relatively well.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 09:01 PM
We need Bong to at least the bullpen jokes complete: Coffee and Gravy, Stoner and Bong.

Think of the headline potential with this bullpen:

Stone rocked!

Coffee creamed!

Graves digs hole, buries Reds

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 09:03 PM
I'd like Griffey to have the kind of season that would at least help the argument that he might wear a Reds hat in the Hall of Fame.

I mean its cearly up to JR what hat he wears to the HOF --- I'd say he'd need a to finish out his contract as a Reds and have a good season every year.

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 09:04 PM
Anyone nervous about Weathers after pitching 2 inning last night?

RedlegJake
05-10-2005, 09:05 PM
Weathers always makes me nervous. Like dark clouds and the smell of ozone.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-10-2005, 09:06 PM
I mean its cearly up to JR what hat he wears to the HOF --- I'd say he'd need a to finish out his contract as a Reds and have a good season every year.

He does need to have at least one really strong year here to boost his chances of going in as a Red.

In the Reds favor I would think is the fact that he is a Cincinnati kid and his dad enjoyed some of his best years here. He also hit HR No. 400 and 500 in a Reds uniform. But clearly his MVP years were all in a Mariners uniform. Tough call.

The_jbh
05-10-2005, 09:06 PM
Weathers has really been the only guy consistent lately but yea after 2 innings i dunno


NICE CATCH FELIPE BTW

RedsMan3203
05-10-2005, 09:06 PM
FeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeLooooooooooooooo!

Great Catch!

Matt700wlw
05-10-2005, 09:06 PM
Lopez with a grab!!

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:07 PM
Nice play by Lopez..what would Aurilia do?

The_jbh
05-10-2005, 09:07 PM
please tell me why he isn't at SS everyday?