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pedro
05-10-2005, 09:28 PM
TB, I think it's really just the concept that PH is a skill unto itself. Really, the Reds are doing him a favor. He's always the first PH off the bench and if he succeeds he can build quite a career out of it. Look at Lenny Harris.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:28 PM
oh yeah, and Puffy.


It's hard to forget Puffy, though goodness knows I try.

:mooner:

:bang:

:evil:

traderumor
05-10-2005, 09:28 PM
Valentin should get home, he had it easy

Stormy
05-10-2005, 09:28 PM
Miley's a scrot.

It becomes increasingly difficult to presume that Miley can makes such a mess of the Kearns' situation out of arbitrary cluelessness, or earnest personnel evaluation... this treatment smacks of intent, and it's disturbing. It's unpleasant to have an outdated, out of his depths, bush leaguer as your manager, it's outrageous to have him alienating and misusing future cornerstones, of a talent bereft franchise, in the process.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 09:29 PM
Hi Puffy!:wave:

Hey Karin! Know what - My brother got into Catholic Law on Saturday.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 09:29 PM
Yay! The bullpen can't blow a 5-1 lead, can they?

Can they?

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 09:29 PM
I'm so glad to see Reyes on the opposing team!

Thanks, Pedro.

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:29 PM
Encarnacion is 2-3 tonight. Trade Randa for a pitching prospect and call up Eddy. :D

the Dodgers need Randa. bad. But I'd let Freel play out the year there. Then let him move over to 2B next year when EE comes up.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 09:30 PM
It's hard to forget Puffy, though goodness knows I try.

:mooner:

:bang:

:evil:
I just gave you positive rep points and this is the thanks I get?

Can I take back points? Anyone? Anyone?

Edskin
05-10-2005, 09:30 PM
5-1 Reds. Game over.





:)

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Casey has fantastic hair.

Just sayin.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Hey Karin! Know what - My brother got into Catholic Law on Saturday.

Congrats to him! Did he re-apply this year?

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
5-1 Reds. Game over.

Yup! The Reds offense just keep stinking up the joint because they can't bounce back from those blown saves.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
Congrats to him! Did he re-apply this year?

Yeah, he did

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
the Dodgers need Randa. bad. But I'd let Freel play out the year there. Then let him move over to 2B next year when EE comes up.

Can't do that, need Freel stealing at bats from Kearns

Phhhl
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
Who is going to close this one out tonight?

traderumor
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
5-1 Reds. Game over.





:)

If the good bullpen was called the Nasty Boys, what do you call these guys? Haven't used this one in a while, but what about Suck Wads?

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
It becomes increasingly difficult to presume that Miley can makes such a mess of the Kearns' situation out of arbitrary cluelessness, or earnest personnel evaluation... this treatment smacks of intent, and it's disturbing. It's unpleasant to have an outdated, out of his depths, bush leaguer as your manager, it's outrageous to have him alienating and misusing future cornerstones, of a talent bereft franchise, in the process.

Wish I didn't have to 'spread the reputation' around because really this is so accurate.

RFS62
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Hey, I just got in after a brutal day on the road. I almost ran over several pedestrians when I hear the lineups on XM.

I don't have time to read the whole game thread, but is there any mention of the closed door meeting between DanO, Miley, Casey, and Randa that was discussed by Hal and Marty in the second inning?

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Congrats to yer bro Puffy :beerme:

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Ok, thanks. I went in to look at his roster position before I asked the question because I haven't seen him play in so long that I forget where he plays. On the Reds active roster, he's listed as an infielder, so that's why I asked.

No problem. His niche is supposedly as a switch hitting PH but over three seasons, the sample sizes appear, to me at least, to be inconclusive to proving either claim is true.

traderumor
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Who is that guy in CF :eek:

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Casey has fantastic hair.

Just sayin.

He'd fit right in in "The Great Gatsby"

FlyingPig
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Could someone please find Pedro Borbon and tell him to warm up? it's getting close to the 9th and the Reds are up by 4...and I'm desperate..

:help:

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:34 PM
Who is going to close this one out tonight?

COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS!

Get them to sign, on the line, that is dotted.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:34 PM
Yeah, he did

Is he going to go? Seems like a nice area, I've driven past it approximately 70,000 times the past few months.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 09:35 PM
the Dodgers need Randa. bad. But I'd let Freel play out the year there. Then let him move over to 2B next year when EE comes up.

I've heard the Dodgers want to call up that Guzman kid instead of making a trade for a 3B.

Caveat Emperor
05-10-2005, 09:35 PM
Who is that guy in CF :eek:

He reminds me of someone, but that person hasn't played baseball since 1999... :thumbup:

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:35 PM
I don't have time to read the whole game thread, but is there any mention of the closed door meeting between DanO, Miley, Casey, and Randa that was discussed by Hal and Marty in the second inning?

I can't imagine there being any talk about that...

:evil:

RFS62
05-10-2005, 09:36 PM
I can't imagine there being any talk about that...

:evil:


Yeah, I didn't think so. I figured I was the only one who knew about it.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:37 PM
Grande (shudder) speaks of Kevin Towers always wanting Austin Kearns

He outta call now and offer some old over the hill vets ;)

traderumor
05-10-2005, 09:38 PM
All Aboard the Gravy Train (sputter, chug, spit, cough, wheeze)

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:38 PM
Here's what cincyreds.com had to say:

Meeting called: General manager Dan O'Brien is notorious for calling regular meetings with his front-office and coaching staffs. But on Tuesday, O'Brien's meeting with Miley included two players: third baseman Joe Randa and first baseman Sean Casey.

"We're trying to get back to basics," Miley said. "That's basically what the conversation was about."

Miley said he and O'Brien called the two veteran players in. The Reds, who have dropped 10 of their last 11 games, don't have an official captain, but Casey and Randa have clearly established themselves as leaders in the clubhouse.

"Those two are our corner guys," Miley said, probably referring to much more than their positions on the field.

RFS62
05-10-2005, 09:41 PM
Hey, did anybody notice that Aurilia was in the 2 spot in the lineup tonight?

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:41 PM
Dunn flies out for the third time. He's just taunting us with those non-sac flies.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:41 PM
In a crappy note for the evening it looks like Jr's hitting streak is going to be snapped at 13.

traderumor
05-10-2005, 09:41 PM
http://www.achievement.org/library/bookcovers/LittleEngi_0.jpg

C'mon Danny, Positive Mental Images "I am the Gravy Train, I think I can, I think I can, I am the Gravy Train, I think I can, I think I can"

At least that's what Tom Hume said Danny's problem was, just needs a widdle confidence :evil:

RFS62
05-10-2005, 09:41 PM
Hey, did anybody hear that Nixon resigned?

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:41 PM
Hey, did anybody notice that Aurilia was in the 2 spot in the lineup tonight?
:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

I hadn't noticed ;)


Well there's Randa so Freel did replace Kearns :angry:

Puffy
05-10-2005, 09:42 PM
Congrats to yer bro Puffy :beerme:

Thanks K-Man!

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:42 PM
At least that's what Tom Hume said Danny's problem was, just needs a widdle confidence :evil:

That and being "feeling small".

traderumor
05-10-2005, 09:42 PM
Hey, did you guys know that shortstops can get to balls toward the second base side?

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 09:43 PM
Dunn flies out for the third time. He's just taunting us with those non-sac flies.

Showing off his warning track power tonight. :devil:

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:43 PM
That and being "feeling small".

I deserve to be negatized for terrible grammer.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 09:43 PM
Is he going to go? Seems like a nice area, I've driven past it approximately 70,000 times the past few months.

Yes, that is where he undergraded, so he is going to go back there.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:43 PM
Bergolla grounds out in his first MLB at bat

He runs it out..he's solid ;)

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 09:44 PM
Well there's Randa so Freel did replace Kearns :angry:

Yeah, I noticed that too Krono. Geez!

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:45 PM
Graves in..still getting booed.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:46 PM
Graves in..still getting booed.

they aren't booing, they're calling for Aaron Boone!

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:46 PM
I like Graves' hair also, but Casey's is a little nicer.

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 09:47 PM
Note to Graves: See how easy it is to earn some cheers.

Just sayin....

FlyingPig
05-10-2005, 09:48 PM
I'm soooo glad Danny is in the game..he is sooo my favorite..

I wish they wouldn't wait till the end to put him in every night..


*blink blink*

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:49 PM
Just sayin....

anyone that writes "Just sayin" owes me a dollar everytime he/she says it.

Just sayin about your sayin.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 09:49 PM
I'm watching the White Sox and the Devil Rays.

Graves is dead to me.

Caveat Emperor
05-10-2005, 09:50 PM
Note to Graves: See how easy it is to earn some cheers.

Just sayin....

Danny Graves needs to grow a goatee.

Because it's a proven scientific fact that everyone's evil twin has a goatee, and I imagine that Danny Graves' evil twin is a hard-throwing shutdown closer.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:50 PM
It's called Range George, you probably forgot.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:50 PM
Graves is dead to me.

The Klingons did that to Worf a couple times in Star Trek.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:50 PM
Reds Win!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 09:51 PM
The Klingons did that to Worf a couple times in Star Trek.


I wish I knew what that means.

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 09:51 PM
anyone that writes "Just sayin" owes me a dollar everytime he/she says it.

Take a check?

...niyas tsuj

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:51 PM
[QUOTE=Caveat Emperor]Danny Graves needs to grow a goatee.

Because it's a proven scientific fact that everyone's evil twin has a goatee,QUOTE]

I'd hate to see Casey's "good" twin. Think of the damage a non evil Casey could do with non-evil hugs.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:52 PM
I wish I knew what that means.

A million billion negative rep points for not being a nerd.

NERDS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:53 PM
I prefer geek ;)

Pen did well tonight, start of something new or just some strange aberration? ;)

Yachtzee
05-10-2005, 09:53 PM
Graves is dead to me.

Now that is a great pun. :)

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 09:56 PM
Tonight is the start of a 20 game win streak.

I think I just wet my pants..someone let off a firecracker outside my window. :angry:

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 09:58 PM
Tonight is the start of a 20 game win streak.

I think I just wet my pants..someone let off a firecracker outside my window. :angry:

They have a pill for that. "Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go right now."

RedsBaron
05-10-2005, 09:59 PM
It becomes increasingly difficult to presume that Miley can makes such a mess of the Kearns' situation out of arbitrary cluelessness, or earnest personnel evaluation... this treatment smacks of intent, and it's disturbing. It's unpleasant to have an outdated, out of his depths, bush leaguer as your manager, it's outrageous to have him alienating and misusing future cornerstones, of a talent bereft franchise, in the process.
Dave Miley may succeed in increasing ticket sales by at least one. I haven't been to a game yet this year, but I may go just so I can boo Miley. Bush leaguer is right.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 10:00 PM
They have a pill for that. "Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go right now."

And...I...don't...have...to go...right now.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 10:00 PM
anyone that writes "Just sayin" owes me a dollar everytime he/she says it.

Just sayin about your sayin.

Screw you hippie!

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/825505/Cartman.jpg

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Tonight is the start of a 20 game win streak.

I think I just wet my pants..someone let off a firecracker outside my window. :angry:

Graves? ;)

Caveat Emperor
05-10-2005, 10:02 PM
And...I...don't...have...to go...right now.

God, I love this board. :laugh:

rdiersin
05-10-2005, 10:04 PM
Danny Graves needs to grow a goatee.

Because it's a proven scientific fact that everyone's evil twin has a goatee, and I imagine that Danny Graves' evil twin is a hard-throwing shutdown closer.

Then Milton and Wilson need to shave theirs off.

RosieRed
05-10-2005, 10:43 PM
First things first: I'm glad the Reds won. Very nice to be reminded that they can win a game here and there. I hope Claussen is okay, as well as Aurilia.

Now onto the real stuff: What in the hell kind of lineup was that???? I am really and truly at my wits end over the lineups we see. I absolutely cannot believe Aurilia was in the No. 2 spot, and Kearns was batting seventh. It blows my mind that Aurilia was in the lineup AT ALL. Honestly, words can't express my disbelief. A million bang-your-head-on-the-wall smilies might come close.

I only caught bits and pieces of the game, until I was driving home and caught the 8th and 9th innings. Did Miley really take Kearns out of the lineup to get Freel into the game? And if so, why? Was it a situational thing that made sense at the time? Please, someone, tell me it was. :help:

What's sad to me is that I really can't get past the lineup tonight. Even though they won, I'm still frustrated. Sigh. Someone tell me to let it go, because I don't want to be this annoyed every night. :)

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 10:49 PM
First things first: I'm glad the Reds won. Very nice to be reminded that they can win a game here and there. I hope Claussen is okay, as well as Aurilia.

Now onto the real stuff: What in the hell kind of lineup was that???? I am really and truly at my wits end over the lineups we see. I absolutely cannot believe Aurilia was in the No. 2 spot, and Kearns was batting seventh. It blows my mind that Aurilia was in the lineup AT ALL. Honestly, words can't express my disbelief. A million bang-your-head-on-the-wall smilies might come close.

I only caught bits and pieces of the game, until I was driving home and caught the 8th and 9th innings. Did Miley really take Kearns out of the lineup to get Freel into the game? And if so, why? Was it a situational thing that made sense at the time? Please, someone, tell me it was. :help:

What's sad to me is that I really can't get past the lineup tonight. Even though they won, I'm still frustrated. Sigh. Someone tell me to let it go, because I don't want to be this annoyed every night. :)

Hey, it's not your fault Miley stinks. I mean it could be that bad. You could be the one causing Miley's stinkiness. But you're not. You follow the Way and the Way in you follows. Breathe in; breathe out. Zen.

pedro
05-10-2005, 11:22 PM
There's a really good chance that was the worst line up the Reds will face all year.

WVRedsFan
05-11-2005, 01:57 AM
I have a confession to make. I didn't watch tonight's game (just wasted money to DirecTV, I guess). Instead I listened for the most part (which leaves me cold when Steve does PBP--he has to be the most boring PBP man in the major leagues) and hoped for the best.

Since I didn't see the game, I thought Claussen was pitching well until the unfortunate ball that hit him. It sounded like he had command. Tell me if I'm wrong. It also sounded like the bullpen sucked it up tonight except for Graves' usual hittable performance. This sounded like a major league club for the first time in a long time. A couple of things still bother me...

We're still not hitting. We got a total of seven hits tonight. That shocked me. Something is wrong here and you can put the blame where you want to, but it's been the same for the past three years. We just don't see the ball well or we're lousy. Once again, take your pick.

Continuing to put Rich Aurilla in the lineup borders on the insane. He's hitting on the interstate now - I95. "The man who paid his dues" benched Kearns for hitting in the .220's, so where is the consistency here? I guess the pulled hamstring will answer a lot of questions. If he plays, then we can call the guys in the white coats and haul "TMWPHD" off to the insane asylum.

Our pitchers, although they didn't allow a lot of runs, still allow a lot of hits. Our pitchers don't seem to have velocity--even those who used to. Looking as recently as last year, these pitchers kept the opposition in check with less hits than innings pitched, so what's the difference? Graves came in the 9th and allowed two hits. That's a closer?

I thought it was funny hearing Andy Furman defending Graves tonight and proclaiming that Graves "would be in the Reds Hall of Fame." How in the world can you defend Graves? He had some good seasons, but the last three? Lots of saves and lots of close calls and many blown saves. If he makes it, good for him. I just want to see him and his $6 million contract gone.

Good win. Let's hope we don't see the total end of our hopes (if, indeed any are left) if Paul Wilson continues to struggle. I keep thinking Jimmy Haynes as I watch him pitch this year. If I were the Reds, I'd never give a retread pitcher any more than a one-year contract ever again. If Jim Bowden was a sucker, DanO was an idiot for not looking at history.

And finally, I just feel sorry for Aaron Harang. The one guy who everyone thought was never going to be able to pitch any better than a 5th starter should, is the ace of the staff. He's given up less hits than innings pitched (and only he and Mercker can say that), has a sterling ERA of less than 3.50 (Mercker is the only other one below 4 at 2.25, which leads the team), and is as stoic as anyone I've ever seen. Folks, he ain't Roger Clemmons, but he's a winner and deserves something more than a non decision when the guys who replaced him gave up more hits in 0.0 innings than he did in eight. If I were Aaron, I might be looking to get out of here fast. In fact, that could be said for most of the club.

Since I've established a tradition, I won't watch until they lose again. The only problem is that even with XM's signal coming in loud and clear, I long to hear Joe's voice. Don't worry, I'll get over it (though time is running short).

RedsBaron
05-11-2005, 06:44 AM
Harang has pitched great. In 44 innings he has allowed only 14 walks while striking out 34 hitters, averaging 6.95 Ks per 9 innings. Harang, Wagner, maybe Claussen are about the only guys on this staff worth keeping for the long haul.
As for Rich Aurilia, his injury last night marks the first time in my nearly 40 years as a Reds fan that I mentally cheered upon hearing that a Red was injured. I kinda feel guilty about my reaction, so I'm wishing him a speedy recovery. I hope he is ready to again play about October 15.