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letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 07:23 PM
San Diego at Cincinnati

Preview - Box Score - Recap


(18-15)


San Diego 18-15 (Road: 8-11) 7:10pm ET

Cincinnati 11-20 (Home: 8-9) CHAN4, FSOH



(11-20)



San Diego
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
D. Jackson 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .227
M. Loretta 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .274
B. Giles rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .235
P. Nevin 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .260
R. Hernandez c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .291
X. Nady cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .260
M. Ojeda lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .233
K. Greene ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
B. Lawrence p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .091
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
F. Lopez 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .321
R. Aurilia ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .202
S. Casey 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .293
K. Griffey Jr. cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
A. Dunn lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .265
J. Randa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .296
A. Kearns rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .214
J. Valentin c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
B. Claussen p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

San Diego
IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
B. Lawrence 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5.19

Cincinnati
IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
B. Claussen 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5.60

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 07:25 PM
I want Kearns traded now, he's gonna rot in Cincy with these guys running the show.

7th? behind Randa?!? with Valentin to protect him?

LvJ
05-10-2005, 07:32 PM
What????

After committing an error and going 0-6 last night he gets moved up to 2nd while Kearns who homered in his last two games gets benched for 2 nights and placed 7th?!

:confused: :laugh: :cry: :confused:

Chip R
05-10-2005, 07:33 PM
A Damian Jackson sighting. princeton should be thrilled.

M2
05-10-2005, 07:37 PM
Dave Miley apparently lives in a parallel universe which cannot be reached by sound or logic.

OldCat
05-10-2005, 07:38 PM
Miley must read RZ every day and is just toying with you all now.

:devil:

westofyou
05-10-2005, 07:39 PM
The imagination station is out of fuel.

OldCat
05-10-2005, 07:41 PM
What????

After committing an error and going 0-6 last night he gets moved up to 2nd while Kearns who homered in his last two games gets benched for 2 nights and placed 7th?!

:confused: :laugh: :cry: :confused:

Kearns didnt homer yesterday. Too bad for us.

SteelSD
05-10-2005, 07:43 PM
Dave Miley apparently lives in a parallel universe which cannot be reached by sound or logic.

How much you want to bet that Miley did it in an attempt to remove Aurilia from RBI opportunities? And I'm sure his backup logic will mean we see at least one Aurilia sac bunt tonight after Lopez gets on.

Guy put Aurilia in the 2-slot to make Outs and didn't think twice about it. I'm now pretty sure that the only thing on the opposite side of a black hole is Dave Miley's brain.

LvJ
05-10-2005, 07:47 PM
Kearns didnt homer yesterday. Too bad for us. The last two games he played before getting benched.

M2
05-10-2005, 07:52 PM
How much you want to bet that Miley did it in an attempt to remove Aurilia from RBI opportunities? And I'm sure his backup logic will mean we see at least one Aurilia sac bunt tonight after Lopez gets on.

Guy put Aurilia in the 2-slot to make Outs and didn't think twice about it. I'm now pretty sure that the only thing on the opposite side of a black hole is Dave Miley's brain.

Steel = profiler of criminal baseball activities

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 07:52 PM
Dave Miley must be fired.

I have refrained from saying until now because, frankly, I kinda like the guy. But it's become increasingly clear that he is incompetent.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 08:00 PM
Never thought I would say this...I would rather have Bob Boone back.

Boone would atleast bat Dunn 2nd every now and then.

Mitri
05-10-2005, 08:02 PM
This is ridiculous and it hasn't even started. I'm speechless at what's in the 2 slot.

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 08:03 PM
I am extremely tired of Chris Welsh continually saying "you can't put your finger on any one thing" when you can. Sure the hits haven't always come BUT.... they've come through a lot more than the pitching has.

Mitri
05-10-2005, 08:03 PM
that said, let's get a win for RZ's sake!

pedro
05-10-2005, 08:06 PM
"Miley" Happens

Puffy
05-10-2005, 08:06 PM
Aurilia not only playing but hitting second. I am dumbfounded.

SirFelixCat
05-10-2005, 08:08 PM
I said this last night and I will stress it even more now: UNCLE. ENOUGH ALREADY. REALLY.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:09 PM
It's a god-awful small affair
To the boy with the greying hair
But his manager is yelling "No"
And his past rep has kept him in the show
But his range is nowhere to be seen
Now he walks through my sunken dream
To the seat with the clearest view
And he's hooked to the second slot
But the bat is a saddening bore
For he's lived it ten times or more
He could spit in the eyes of fools
As they ask him to focus on
Bunt Hits dragging in the infield
Oh man! Look at those cavemen go
It's the freakiest show
Take a look at the coach man
Always picking the wrong guy
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show
Is there life on Mars?

Joseph
05-10-2005, 08:09 PM
I'm absolutely baffled by this lineup and Aurilia's presence on this team. If Freel needed a day off, give Bergolla a start at 2nd and put FeLo at SS.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-10-2005, 08:10 PM
I had this strange feeling all day that he'd not only be in the lineup, but he'd be positioned in said lineup in such a way as to act as lighter fluid and a stiff wind on the blaze.

This is absolutely laughable. What is he trying to prove?

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 08:11 PM
I had this strange feeling all day that he'd not only be in the lineup, but he'd be positioned in said lineup in such a way as to act as lighter fluid and a stiff wind on the blaze.

This is absolutely laughable. What is he trying to prove?

That he's smarter than the rest of us. Just like Boone used to do.

What gets me is that Aurilia gets chance after chance after chance. Austin Kearns has a slow start, and he gets buried on the bench.

Kearns hits two homers....still on the bench.
Aurilia makes two terrible plays in the field and goes 0-6.....moved up in the lineup.

Makes no sense.

Aurilia's OPS is now 594. That's Castro-esque.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 08:12 PM
SWEET SASSY MOLLASSY!

I come home from a movie expecting a bad lineup, but not something like THIS!

It's Juan Castro all over again.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 08:12 PM
I'm absolutely baffled by this lineup and Aurilia's presence on this team. If Freel needed a day off, give Bergolla a start at 2nd and put FeLo at SS.

Exactly. Give Bergolla some PT.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-10-2005, 08:14 PM
[QUOTE=RedlegNation]That he's smarter than the rest of us. Just like Boone used to do.
QUOTE]

I don't get the impression that he thinks he 'smarter' than anyone. I think he throws names in hats and simply draws.

SirFelixCat
05-10-2005, 08:14 PM
Serious question here: What, honestly, could be his rationale to this lineup? I, for one, can not guess. But I'm curious as to what others may think.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 08:15 PM
[QUOTE=RedlegNation]That he's smarter than the rest of us. Just like Boone used to do.
QUOTE]

I don't get the impression that he thinks he 'smarter' than anyone. I think he throws names in hats and simply draws.

I dunno. I think he's going to be stubborn about this Aurilia thing because, doggonit, he knows that veterans are better, and he's going to prove it to everyone.

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 08:15 PM
[QUOTE=RedlegNation]That he's smarter than the rest of us. Just like Boone used to do.
QUOTE]

I don't get the impression that he thinks he 'smarter' than anyone. I think he throws names in hats and simply draws.

Right. Dave's dumber than bacon grease, and makes no effort to mask it.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 08:16 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, bacon grease......

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 08:19 PM
George Grand: The Reds didn't score after the second inning last night; the story more often than not this year.

Like that was the problem last night even though they had a 4-run lead.

Every night I get hotter under the collar than I was the night before, and every night, I don't think it's possible to get any more angry.

Between the commentary and Aurilia still in the game, I think I/'m losing my mind and that my head will explode at any minute.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:22 PM
Serious question here: What, honestly, could be his rationale to this lineup? I, for one, can not guess. But I'm curious as to what others may think.

Dave Miley played baseball in the 70's.

Most #2 hitters from 1965-1995 were "contact" hitters whose job was to move guys over or create the out after Omar Moreno or whatever skinny out machine was batting leadoff that day.

Dave Miley still has More than a Feeling and he's going to play Headgames with you and me until we begin Taking it to the streets.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 08:24 PM
I have figured out Miley's rationale: Aurilia has a .333 BA against Brian Lawrence in his career.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:24 PM
George Grande produces more cheese nightly than Northeastern Wisconsion does annually

KittyDuran
05-10-2005, 08:24 PM
Bunt hit for FeLo...

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:25 PM
Good job Rich.

Chip R
05-10-2005, 08:25 PM
Miley's reasoning for batting Aurilia 2nd per Marty: "I'm just trying to get something going." :help:

Virginia Beach Reds
05-10-2005, 08:25 PM
Ah, yes. DP lane for Aurilia.

SunDeck
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
Man, I was just trying to think of the last time the 'legs had a lineup. I mean, for like a week.

LvJ
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
Uh .. [/Aurilia]

Virginia Beach Reds
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
I have figured out Miley's rationale: Aurilia has a .333 BA against Brian Lawrence in his career.

what 1/3?

Mitri
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
.200

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
If Roy Hobbs showed up in the clubhouse tonight Miley would sit him over Aurilia.

Joseph
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
I have figured out Miley's rationale: Aurilia has a .333 BA against Brian Lawrence in his career.

And it did him a whole lot of good in that double play

M2
05-10-2005, 08:27 PM
Like I said in another thread on Reds Live, Rich Aurilia's sewn up his 72 virgins in heaven.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:27 PM
Casey reaches on an error :clap:

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 08:27 PM
Not saying I agree with that rationale, but it's probably Miley's reasoning.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 08:27 PM
Miley's reasoning for batting Aurilia 2nd per Marty: "I'm just trying to get something going." :help:

:rolleyes:

Hey Miley here's an idea. Bat Dunn 2nd instead of wasting your high OBP hitter in the 5th spot.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:27 PM
"I'm just trying to get something going."

Might I suggest?

http://www.beyondfertility.com/vaseline.jpg

Larkin411
05-10-2005, 08:28 PM
I thought about making a HACKING MASS fantasy team(you try to choose the stiffest players i.e. those that will play badly yet will play often) that just had Reds players. I should've done it. Rich alone would've helped me win.

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 08:29 PM
If Austin Kearns gets traded (a guy with upside and who's very cheap right now), well, I just don't know.

I have no idea what this hatefest is all about, but I can't imagine why DOB doesn't like him... unless it's because he's talked to the media a couple times, but I somehow think it's more than that, and it may be what led Austin to go AWOL for a couple days last year.

He's done what he asked him to do, including the third base experience. Austin spent a whole lot of time on that during the offseason last year; Dan said the plan was a failure (never said why) but regardless, said he'd play him there a bit during ST, but he never did.

And remember how long he was on the DL last year? Wasn't something said about that too? Like he was ok for quite awhile before they took him off and brought him back up. Or was it the lengthy rehab assignment; I can/'t remember exactly.

What ever, I'd just like to throw my hands up in the air and not care... but I do care, and it's making me more sick to my stomach each and every day. I can only speculate how the players must feel.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:29 PM
I doubt it RedLeg, Miley has shown he doesn't give a flying flip about previous stats with other lineups.

Unless he just got to that chapter in "How to Manage" ;)

Virginia Beach Reds
05-10-2005, 08:30 PM
Might I suggest?

http://www.beyondfertility.com/vaseline.jpg

Boy, that's funny.

How about in order to get 'something going' and produce some offense, you position your players in a lineup using statistics to back your moves and not age, height or years of major league service.

OldCat
05-10-2005, 08:30 PM
Maybe he's trying to keep Casey from the DP record

pedro
05-10-2005, 08:31 PM
It's a god-awful small affair
To the boy with the greying hair
But his manager is yelling "No"
And his past rep has kept him in the show
But his range is nowhere to be seen
Now he walks through my sunken dream
To the seat with the clearest view
And he's hooked to the second slot
But the bat is a saddening bore
For he's lived it ten times or more
He could spit in the eyes of fools
As they ask him to focus on
Bunt Hits dragging in the infield
Oh man! Look at those cavemen go
It's the freakiest show
Take a look at the coach man
Always picking the wrong guy
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show
Is there life on Mars?

and....

Will you stay in our losers story?
If you stay you won't be sorry
cause we believe in you
yes you'll blow, but take a chance
With a couple of kooks
not Hung up on the stats thing....

Virginia Beach Reds
05-10-2005, 08:32 PM
Not that I rely on the GAB gun, but Claussen only throwing about 86-87 MPH tonight.

(I hope not) but 2nd time through the lineup might be ugly again.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:32 PM
I thought about making a HACKING MASS fantasy team(you try to choose the stiffest players i.e. those that will play badly yet will play often) that just had Reds players. I should've done it. Rich alone would've helped me win.

I am currently #124

SunDeck
05-10-2005, 08:34 PM
On Sportsline game site, Ojeda shows up as a silhouette. Like the mystery man or something...creepy.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:35 PM
From game thread Beta

"Hal said he was shocked Aurilia was in the lineup, much less than batting second. Hal says there is talk in the clubhouse that Miley is being told who to play and by more than just a few players"


Wonderful!

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 08:36 PM
Dude, silhouettes are the worst. Our house was lousy with him; can't get rid of him.

Chip R
05-10-2005, 08:37 PM
Boy, that's funny.

How about in order to get 'something going' and produce some offense, you position your players in a lineup using statistics to back your moves and not age, height or years of major league service.That's just crazy talk. ;)

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 08:37 PM
What kind of GM dictates the presence in the lineup of a guy OPSing 594 with the range of a statue? This is just idiotic on an unprecedented level.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 08:38 PM
Dunn walks for the 25th time in 98 atbats this year.

Larkin411
05-10-2005, 08:39 PM
I am currently #124

I meant to get my team together but I just procrastinated for too long. Did you just pick Reds players?

membengal
05-10-2005, 08:40 PM
Aurilia not only playing but hitting second. I am dumbfounded.

Um. Yeah. Just got home from work, turned on the game, and then pulled up RZ. You all broke the news to me. I see Miley is busy testing my apathy. God forbid one of our columnists should call him out at some point over this dreck.

SunDeck
05-10-2005, 08:40 PM
Rally cap.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:40 PM
Hal says there is talk in the clubhouse that Miley is being told who to play and by more than just a few players"

That's good scuttlebutt, the kind that comes out in ten years.

Which Red writes a book and what would the title be?

Casey?

"Things I've heard at first."

Junior

"Slip Sliding Away, My years in Rhineland"

Jason LaRue

"Aaargh...I'll get it"

Danny Graves

"Boo's hurt my feelings but don't hurt my monthly balance"

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:41 PM
Kearns doubles to left

Wow..he might be a good player.

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 08:41 PM
Way to go Kearns! Was it me, or did the crowd cheer just a little louder for him?

SunDeck
05-10-2005, 08:41 PM
Rally cap's workin'.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 08:41 PM
Nice job Kearns. You just earned yourself a spot on the bench for the next week.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Valentin with a sac fly

SIGN THAT MAN LONG TERM! ;)

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
I meant to get my team together but I just procrastinated for too long. Did you just pick Reds players?

Nah, I couldn't think of any Red that was worst then who I picked.

I was wrong so far.

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Kearns doubles to left

Wow..he might be a good player.

From one Kearns-faithful to another. :beerme:

Let's enjoy it while we can.

SunDeck
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Too early for a double switch?

SunDeck
05-10-2005, 08:45 PM
Okay, Rally cap has spun off the meter.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 08:45 PM
Dunn walks for the 25th time in 98 atbats this year.

Actually its 25 walks in 123 at bats - He has 98 at bats plus 25 walks, which equals 123 at bats/plate appearances.

Unless he has sacrifice flies, then that would add to his plate appearances. Does anyone know if Dunn has any sacrifice flies this year? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

:devil: :devil: :devil:

M2
05-10-2005, 08:46 PM
And the RBI situation finds Rich Aurilia.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 08:46 PM
Aurilia's hurt!

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:46 PM
No sac flys...he stinks.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:46 PM
RA has caught reds fever.

leg injury.

Mitri
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
.198, it's official

SteelSD
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
Aurilia looks like he just tweaked a hammy.

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
Aurilia pulls up at first grabbing his hammy.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 08:47 PM
Kearns needed to go 0-6, that would have guaranteed he played tomorrow. He is so stupid. Its like he doesn't want to play, what with producing and stuff....

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
Actually its 25 walks in 123 at bats - He has 98 at bats plus 25 walks, which equals 123 at bats/plate appearances.

Unless he has sacrifice flies, then that would add to his plate appearances. Does anyone know if Dunn has any sacrifice flies this year? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

:devil: :devil: :devil:

Nope...no sac flies. They should release him or demote him to the minors until he learns to hit clutch sac flies. :D

SunDeck
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
Aurilia's hurt!
Rally cap is now an evil genius.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
This is what pushed Terry Pendelton out of the picture... sucking and having leg problems.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
I thought he was gonna come through with a big hit there. Nah, just kidding. I knew he'd ground weakly to short.

Aurilia = Dante Bichette (while serving the Reds)

He Rich is GONE...pulled hammy.

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
Rik Mayall voice: "That's that, anyway."

Cant Touch This
05-10-2005, 08:49 PM
That's good scuttlebutt, the kind that comes out in ten years.

Which Red writes a book and what would the title be?

Casey?

"Things I've heard at first."

Junior

"Slip Sliding Away, My years in Rhineland"

Jason LaRue

"Aaargh...I'll get it"

Danny Graves

"Boo's hurt my feelings but don't hurt my monthly balance"


Great humor. Maybe I can add a few:

Milton: "Dealing with aggrevated neck strain"
Weber: "Dealing with OC: Obsessive Convulsions"
Weathers: "Make like a tree and get out of here, butthead."

IslandRed
05-10-2005, 08:49 PM
Jimenez takes over at second. Felipe shifts over to short. Yes!

Larkin411
05-10-2005, 08:49 PM
I feel sorry for Rich too. It must be uncomfortable to go out night after night when you know what everyone is thinking. Especially since he's new to the team and yet other guys are being passed over to put him in.

If I were Rich, I'd fake an injury.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:49 PM
Rich out

Hope he's not seriously hurt, just needs a month or 2 on the bench.

DJ comes in at 2nd.

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 08:49 PM
Lopez now at SS. :beerme:

M2
05-10-2005, 08:50 PM
Aurilia pulls up at first grabbing his hammy.

I hate to see anyone get injured, but I'm counting this as a divine mercy.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 08:51 PM
Here's hoping Rich is not seriously hurt... I think it's idiocy on the grandest scale to continue playing him, but Aurilia seems like a good guy and is not to blame in this situation IMO.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:51 PM
Miley looks upset.

Is he considering forfeiting since his GUY is out?

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 08:51 PM
I hate to see anyone get injured, but I'm counting this as a divine mercy.

Speaking of divine mercy, has anyone noticed the nun sitting behind the first base line?

Storm brewing here. I'm out.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:53 PM
Miley looks upset.

Is he considering forfeiting since his GUY is out?

That's the exact same look Gary Burghoff had in the short lived series "After Mash"

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:55 PM
Right now this is the the starting lineup I thought they'd have (sans LaRue)

pedro
05-10-2005, 08:55 PM
From game thread Beta

"Hal said he was shocked Aurilia was in the lineup, much less than batting second. Hal says there is talk in the clubhouse that Miley is being told who to play and by more than just a few players"


Wonderful!

If DanO is really calling the shots on the lineups, and then telling the press he isn't, he is an evil, evil man.

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 08:56 PM
That's the exact same look Gary Burghoff had in the short lived series "After Mash"

:cry: :usa:

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 08:56 PM
Now just to somehow ;) get Kearns to move up a few spots :D

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 08:57 PM
Claussen has retired 9 straight. He can look good at times, and then Jimmy Haynes-esque at other times.

Cant Touch This
05-10-2005, 08:57 PM
OT: WOY is not west of pedro.

M2
05-10-2005, 08:57 PM
From game thread Beta

"Hal said he was shocked Aurilia was in the lineup, much less than batting second. Hal says there is talk in the clubhouse that Miley is being told who to play and by more than just a few players"


Wonderful!

Makes sense on a certain level. GMs tend to like the players they've acquired and it probably hasn't escaped DanO's notice that his acquistions have fallen flat outside of Joe Randa and Kent Mercker. Perhaps he's worried others will notice as well. For instance, if John Allen wanted Wayne Krivsky instead of DanO and then overruled DanO, hiring Miley instead of Brian Graham, then who's he more likley to blame for this mess?

westofyou
05-10-2005, 08:58 PM
OT: WOY is not west of pedro.

Southwest

pedro
05-10-2005, 08:59 PM
OT: WOY is not west of pedro.

Actually he is. Only slightly.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 08:59 PM
Any chance someone can take Chris Welsh out to a field in the country and set him free to run wild?

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Any chance someone can take Chris Welsh out to a field in the country and set him free to run wild?

Or enter him in a Magnum PI "look a like" contest.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Any chance someone can take Chris Welsh out to a field in the country and set him free to run wild?

He'd find his way back ;)

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:01 PM
Dunn flies out, thank goodness he didn't K.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:01 PM
Adam Dunn sees more bad pitches than any Red I've ever seen.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 09:01 PM
How big of a lead will we blow tonight?

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:02 PM
How big of a lead will we blow tonight?

hey, the Reds can blow a lead without OUR help.

:evil:

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:03 PM
Adam Dunn sees more bad pitches than any Red I've ever seen.

That's because he doesn't swing at them.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 09:04 PM
hey, the Reds can blow a lead without OUR help.

:evil:

:D

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:06 PM
That's because he doesn't swing at them.

http://www.npl.co.uk/thelearningroom/images/teachers.gif

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:07 PM
Casey ran a long way to catch that

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:08 PM
Tonights Drinking Word is "Slump", everytime George or Chris says "Slump" take a pull off your bottle or can.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 09:12 PM
Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here comes the bullpen!

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:12 PM
Rotten luck. Hope Claussen's ok.

Everyone get your hard hats on, here comes the bullpen

Larkin411
05-10-2005, 09:13 PM
Tonights Drinking Word is "Slump", everytime George or Chris says "Slump" take a pull off your bottle or can.

I wouldn't be able to go to work tomorrow if I did that :) .

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 09:13 PM
What happened.

Edskin
05-10-2005, 09:14 PM
I got lucky tonight. My digital cable is acting up, and two of my extra innings stations aren't working-- and the Reds game is on one of them.

But here's the sad part: I spent an hour on the phone with the cable people (they're sending a guy out on Thursday) and then I rushed to the internet to check the updates.

For an 11-20 team. Ugh :(

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 09:14 PM
Coffey now pitching.

IslandRed
05-10-2005, 09:14 PM
Sounds like Claussen took a liner off his left shoulder and had to come out (assuming I heard correctly).

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:15 PM
Sounds like Claussen took a liner off his left shoulder and had to come out (assuming I heard correctly).
And he somewhat rolled his ankle. He probably has quite a frog on his shoulder.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 09:18 PM
Coffey gets X-man to ground into a DP.

Inning over.

PuffyPig
05-10-2005, 09:18 PM
Tonights Drinking Word is "Slump", everytime George or Chris says "Slump" take a pull off your bottle or can.

And everytime you read "Aurilla's injured", take a swig.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:19 PM
We'll need about 25 runs tonight

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:20 PM
I got lucky tonight. My digital cable is acting up, and two of my extra innings stations aren't working-- and the Reds game is on one of them.

But here's the sad part: I spent an hour on the phone with the cable people (they're sending a guy out on Thursday) and then I rushed to the internet to check the updates.

For an 11-20 team. Ugh :(

Therapy Ed, therapy.;)

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:20 PM
And everytime you read "Aurilla's injured", take a swig.

Lucky for us it's not Miley is a FILL IN BLANK, people would be dropping left and right.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:23 PM
DP works the 2nd time

If at first you don't succeed

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 09:23 PM
He was hit on the rt shoulder (looked to be really close to the collarbone). He rolled/twisted to his lt completely around and fell off the mound onto his back. He may have twisted his ankle when he twisted around.

membengal
05-10-2005, 09:27 PM
Running pet peeve:

Evertime George Grande says the scoreboard is on the "smiling side" I want to break something.

Good thing Aurilia is out of the game, or Miley would have him in at pitcher for Claussen.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:29 PM
Running pet peeve:

Evertime George Grande says the scoreboard is on the "smiling side" I want to break something.



Personally "hi hello and welcome" gets on my nerves.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Running pet peeve:

Evertime George Grande .


you can stop right there.

All you have to say is "George Grande" and you've made your point :evil:

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Ther's a marching band walking down my street. They must have heard about Aurilia.

Edskin
05-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Not just George, but when announcers say, "all tied up at 5-5." Or "Knotted up at 6 apiece"--- that drives me crazy. How else can you be tied or knotted up?

M2
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
Nice outing by Coffey. The Reds need him in a big way.

membengal
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
Personally "hi hello and welcome" gets on my nerves.

Yeah, I hate that too. Actually, every time he and Welsh make excuses for this crap I get just a little madder. Each time I am surprised I still have the capacity for that emotion. Then I remember to take my apathy juice and its all better.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
Ther's a marching band walking down my street. They must have heard about Aurilia.

Wave for us :)

princeton
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
Aurilia pulls up at first grabbing his hammy.

the old split-contract, batting .198 hammy pull. eh?

heady ballplayer

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
That Lopez guy is pretty good...doubles to CF

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:34 PM
I'm glad Puffy got Felipe's ball .

Stormy
05-10-2005, 09:34 PM
FeLo!! Seeing pitches, working counts, driving the ball with EBH power/authority, producing from both sides of the plate, and making some deft plays afield... what more can you ask? Great stuff.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:34 PM
Ther's a marching band walking down my street. They must have heard about Aurilia.

It is 2 dollar beer night down at the Pub.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:35 PM
I'm really happy to see Lopez continuing to make adjustments this year. We saw his progress at the end of last year, glad to see he's managed to extend it to this year under less than perfect circumstances (position changes, lineup instability, Miley happens).

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:36 PM
Just lost the sound on FSN.

Not complaining mind you..

OldRightHander
05-10-2005, 09:36 PM
:miley: "That darn Felipe Lopez is still hitting. I can't wait for Rich's hammy to heal so I can get him back in at short and bench Felipe. I can't stand young shortstops with good range and a good bat."

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:37 PM
Casey..with no chance of a DP..doubles Lopez in

:clap:

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 09:37 PM
FeLo!! Seeing pitches, working counts, driving the ball with EBH power/authority, producing from both sides of the plate, and making some deft plays afield... what more can you ask? Great stuff.

I believe Felipe has now doubled in 5 consecutive games. I was opposed to him leading off..but he's changed my mine. That OBP is up around .400 now.

membengal
05-10-2005, 09:38 PM
Just lost the sound on FSN.

Not complaining mind you..

That has put me on the smiling side of the evening...

membengal
05-10-2005, 09:39 PM
I believe Felipe has now doubled in 5 consecutive games. I was opposed to him leading off..but he's changed my mine. That OBP is up around .400 now.

Every double from FeLo makes Dan O'Brien mad enough to speak in clear and concise sentences.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:40 PM
Felipe has doubled in 5 games in a row, his OPS entering today's game was 964, and his OBP was 379. Just shows how utterly stupid even the thought of playing Aurilia over him was.

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:41 PM
I'm glad Puffy got Felipe's ball .

funny, I could have sworn it was Mike Renderle.

RedlegNation
05-10-2005, 09:41 PM
Felipe has doubled in 5 games in a row, his OPS entering today's game was 964, and his OBP was 379. Just shows how utterly stupid even the thought of playing Aurilia over him was.

"Stop with the facts. What about feelings? And veteran leadership?"

--Dave Miley

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:42 PM
Damian Jackson Homers

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:42 PM
"Stop with the facts. What about feelings? And veteran leadership?"

--Dave Miley

You're forgetting postseason experience.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:43 PM
funny, I could have sworn it was Mike Renderle.

Mike Foley maybe.

When Damian Jackson hits a home run it gives ya Darrel Chaney feelings.

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 09:43 PM
Every double from FeLo makes Dan O'Brien mad enough to speak in clear and concise sentences.

Thanks alot. I just spit apathy juice all over my keyboard. :)

SteelSD
05-10-2005, 09:44 PM
funny, I could have sworn it was Mike Renderle.

It was BF. He threw it back.

Stormy
05-10-2005, 09:45 PM
I believe Felipe has now doubled in 5 consecutive games. I was opposed to him leading off..but he's changed my mine. That OBP is up around .400 now.

Though his BB per plate appearance are down (likely due to his sporadic early usage), I've always believed that he will take enough pitches, draw enough walks and hit with a high enough average (from both sides of the plate) to merit hitting in the #1-2 slot. A likely .300+ hitter whose BB totals and EBH power will keep him near 375-400OBP range with near 500 Slg%. An added bonus, is that as he settles into a defined position and role, he might start to develop his running game too, for some speed adjusted OPS benefits, as he is the type of guy who can probably swipe 20-25 at a 75% clip IMHO.

As a "FeLo is the future" guy from the day he arrived, I'm thrilled to see him weather the storms of struggles, injury, attitude, misusage and emerge from it as a guy who is starting to put it all together. Lark knew this kid had the tools to be the next stellar Cincy SS, and it's a huge boost to this talent desperate franchise to have a guy like Felipe growing into the role.

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 09:46 PM
It was BF. He threw it back.

Nah. He's too busy ripping MWM and RedsZone on the Reds board.

Stormy
05-10-2005, 09:47 PM
Griff, that is just so fluid and beautiful. Starting to look like the natural again... please let the guy have a year of 500+ healthy ABs.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:47 PM
Here was Miley's justification for batting Aurilia second:

"We're just trying to jumpstart him," Miley said. "Hopefully we'll get some hit-and-run situations and get him going."

SteelSD
05-10-2005, 09:47 PM
Junior! BANG BANG throw!!

Mitri
05-10-2005, 09:49 PM
I wish I could've seen that.

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:50 PM
I wish I could've seen that.

You will on ESPN. It was that nice.

westofyou
05-10-2005, 09:51 PM
Miley said. "Hopefully we'll get some hit-and-run situations and get him going."

Dave can't wait to get home and watch Solid Gold too, he loves Madamn.

OldRightHander
05-10-2005, 09:51 PM
That throw brought back memories of the Junior of ten years ago. He still has a heck of an arm.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 09:51 PM
I wish I could've seen that.

me too. I'll just have to imagine it and wait for ESPN.

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:52 PM
Dave can't wait to get home and watch Solid Gold too, he loves Madamn.

really? I would have thought he was more of a "Lambchop" kind of guy.

http://www.puppetjungle.com/images/auroram/lambchop.JPG

Stormy
05-10-2005, 09:54 PM
Griffey's throw + some bad Padres baserunning acumen = keeping us out of a potential big, backbreaking inning (so far).

Claussen's ankle X-Rays negative, by the way. Good news.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 09:54 PM
Lets go DP lets go.

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 09:56 PM
X-rays on Claussen's ankle were negative.

OldRightHander
05-10-2005, 09:56 PM
My three favorite numbers are 6 4 3.

pedro
05-10-2005, 09:56 PM
Lets go DP lets go.

Nice call Krono!

The reds real DP combo gets one on the books.

Mitri
05-10-2005, 09:57 PM
This is the infield we all want to see

Caveat Emperor
05-10-2005, 09:59 PM
Griff, that is just so fluid and beautiful. Starting to look like the natural again... please let the guy have a year of 500+ healthy ABs.

That throw was beautiful...catch, load up, and throw all in one completely fluid motion. On a fly, right to Joe Randa as he slaps the tag on.

I'm still skeptical of Griffey being back...but his play lately is making me desperately want to believe.

I'm pulling for him big time!

Raisor
05-10-2005, 09:59 PM
I was called "annoying" on the Beta Game Thread.

I feel small now.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 10:00 PM
By the way, Felipe's OPS is up to 1.018. 2nd best for NL SS's behing Clint Barmes's Coors inflated numbers.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 10:01 PM
I was called "annoying" on the Beta Game Thread.

I feel small now.

I'd give you some reputation points to make you feel better, but apparently I have to "spread them around.";)

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:02 PM
I have to "spread them around.";)

:wave:

M2
05-10-2005, 10:02 PM
I was called "annoying" on the Beta Game Thread.

I feel small now.

Here's 12 points of love for your trouble. You've been positivized.

pedro
05-10-2005, 10:02 PM
By the way, Felipe's OPS is up to 1.018. 2nd best for NL SS's behing Clint Barmes's Coors inflated numbers.

surpisingly, Barmes' OPS is a not to shabby .849 on the road.

pedro
05-10-2005, 10:03 PM
Here's 12 points of love for your trouble. You've been positivized.

your positive power is worth 12 points? I think mine is only 8. God I'm a loser.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:04 PM
I was called "annoying" on the Beta Game Thread.

I feel small now.

Them's fighting words :cool:

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 10:04 PM
:wave:

9 points for you

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 10:04 PM
I was called "annoying" on the Beta Game Thread.

I feel small now.

Your annoying on this thread too. Feel better? :)

That's just a joke BTW. Doesn't seem like that other guy will be around much longer.

Larkin Fan
05-10-2005, 10:04 PM
That throw was beautiful...catch, load up, and throw all in one completely fluid motion. On a fly, right to Joe Randa as he slaps the tag on.

I'm still skeptical of Griffey being back...but his play lately is making me desperately want to believe.

I'm pulling for him big time!

How can one not pull for the guy? He's worked hard and hopefully it'll continue to pay off. It's great to see some shades of the Ken Griffey Jr. awed the world of baseball just a few years ago.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:05 PM
Sweet :D

Raisor
05-10-2005, 10:05 PM
Here's 12 points of love for your trouble. You've been positivized.


Thanks, I should beg more often.

I'm going to sell at 275.

Larkin Fan
05-10-2005, 10:06 PM
your positive power is worth 12 points? I think mine is only 8. God I'm a loser.

Nah, he's just been here longer. ;)

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 10:06 PM
your positive power is worth 12 points? I think mine is only 8. God I'm a loser.

Mines only 5 points. I'm gonna' start being nice to M2. ;)

pedro
05-10-2005, 10:06 PM
Thanks, I should beg more often.

I'm going to sell at 275.

I think you should sell yourself at 285. It's closer to your house.

M2
05-10-2005, 10:06 PM
your positive power is worth 12 points? I think mine is only 8. God I'm a loser.

It's the extra 10,000 posts. In most circles you're not the one who'd get loser status for that.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 10:06 PM
surpisingly, Barmes' OPS is a not to shabby .849 on the road.

That's what I get for not looking it up. I just remember a few weeks ago I heard on BBTN that he was OPSing below .700 away from Coors. Obviously he has been hitting much better lately.

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 10:07 PM
your positive power is worth 12 points? I think mine is only 8. God I'm a loser.

Yeah I'm feeling kind of down, not only am I worth a measly 9 points, but someone dinged me the other night for saying that opposing hitters must salivate when they see an upcoming series with the Reds.:lol:

traderumor
05-10-2005, 10:07 PM
Aurilia would have had that one in his hip pocket :evil:

Mitri
05-10-2005, 10:07 PM
The Real Thug Life is have a great game

realreds1
05-10-2005, 10:07 PM
I hate to say this -- because it involves an injury to a player, and I don't wish an injury on any ballplayer -- but... could the Aurillia injury, assuming it's bad, knock him from the line-up for good? I mean, he hasn't torn it up this year. Maybe this is the door opened for FeLo at SS.

Caveat Emperor
05-10-2005, 10:07 PM
Mines only 5 points. I'm gonna' start being nice to M2. ;)

Cry me a river...My reputation power is so low that people actually GET points when I negativize them!

Stormy
05-10-2005, 10:08 PM
Making it look easy, the gun from the hole followed by climbing the ladder. I'm sure Aurilia would have made those plays look routine, as well, maybe caught them in his hat.

Mitri
05-10-2005, 10:09 PM
Making it look easy, the gun from the hole followed by climbing the ladder. I'm sure Aurilia would have made those plays look routine, as well.

routine base hits of course

Larkin Fan
05-10-2005, 10:09 PM
Cry me a river...My reputation power is so low that people actually GET points when I negativize them!

Wow!

Raisor
05-10-2005, 10:09 PM
I wonder how many rep points I'l earn/lose if Raisor returns speaking in the third person for the rest of the season.

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 10:09 PM
Cry me a river...My reputation power is so low that people actually GET points when I negativize them!

Ouch! That is bad.

M2
05-10-2005, 10:10 PM
Mines only 5 points. I'm gonna' start being nice to M2. ;)

I believe I'm responsible for over 10% of your reputation. You're going to have to tithe to me.

Larkin411
05-10-2005, 10:10 PM
Yeah I'm feeling kind of down, not only am I worth a measly 9 points, but someone dinged me the other night for saying that opposing hitters must salivate when they see an upcoming series with the Reds.:lol:

They dinged you for that? I'm giving you points just for the injustice of it.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:10 PM
Double switch time.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:13 PM
Freel in at 3rd now..Randa out

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 10:13 PM
I believe I'm responsible for over 10% of your reputation. You're going to have to tithe to me.

Thanks. I wondered you had voted for me. I thought it was BF. :notworthy

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 10:14 PM
Freel in at 3rd now..Randa out

Gameday says Freel is in for Kearns :confused:

Caveat Emperor
05-10-2005, 10:14 PM
I believe I'm responsible for over 10% of your reputation. You're going to have to tithe to me.

Somebody ought to publish a list and sticky it on RedsLive! of the "Power Brokers" of reputation that the newbies need to suck up to. :laugh:

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 10:14 PM
They dinged you for that? I'm giving you points just for the injustice of it.

I tried to get you back, but I've given out too much reputation apparently. I'll spread the love again tomorrow.:)

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Gameday says Freel is in for Kearns :confused:

Maybe I heard Grande wrong? :confused:

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Has anyone seen the nun's at the ballpark yet?

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Question: why does Jacob Cruz never play, except to PH? just curious.

Larkin411
05-10-2005, 10:16 PM
I wonder how many rep points I'l earn/lose if Raisor returns speaking in the third person for the rest of the season.

Ahh memories :) .

Edskin
05-10-2005, 10:16 PM
Pretty big K for Wagner, IMO. He's one of the few guys on this team that I have hope for-- so I watch his every move more intently.

pedro
05-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Now this is the infield many were arguing for over the winter.

Raisor & Zombie come to mind.
and maybe even Steel.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Freel in for Kearns..I did hear wrong

Miley :bang:

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 10:18 PM
Freel in for Kearns..I did hear wrong

Miley :bang:

:angry: :bang:

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 10:18 PM
I've seen it all now. Javier Valentin draws a four pitch walk.

Falls City Beer
05-10-2005, 10:19 PM
Miley's a scrot.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 10:19 PM
I have mixed feelings for Freel.

He's scrappy, but is he scrappy enough?

Can you be TOO scrappy?

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 10:20 PM
Hellllooooo? Can anyone answer my Jacob question?

Caveat Emperor
05-10-2005, 10:20 PM
Freel in for Kearns..I did hear wrong

Miley :bang:

The only thing I can figure is that Miley saw Austin Kearn's car speeding away from his house late one night and thinks the worst...

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:20 PM
Freel is the definition of scrappy

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 10:20 PM
Freel in for Kearns..I did hear wrong

Miley :bang:

Kearns goes 1-3 with a double and gets pulled from the game. Why put weenie arm Freel in right?

Stormy
05-10-2005, 10:20 PM
Pretty big K for Wagner, IMO. He's one of the few guys on this team that I have hope for-- so I watch his every move more intently.

Yes, and that was actually astutely putting him in a position to succeed (and a profound BP move by Miley is less frequent than a yeti sighting). Jackson can beat a guy who relies on location like Weathers, but should be easily overpowered, and a guy who will chase a slider the likes of Wagner's. He pulled a pitcher at an appropriate time, went with a solid matchup, and put Wagner in a position to succeed. A rare positive from the BP, and a nice effort from the 1 guy whose pivotal to the future of this 'pen.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:21 PM
Hellllooooo? Can anyone answer my Jacob question?

I'd venture it's because Cruz is Mileys PH guy, he wants him to be ready just inc ase.

M2
05-10-2005, 10:21 PM
The only thought running through my mind right now is "Falkenborg, Mistress of the Dark."

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 10:21 PM
I think Freel went in for Randa, didn't he.

Puffy
05-10-2005, 10:21 PM
Now this is the infield many were arguing for over the winter.

Raisor & Zombie come to mind.
and maybe even Steel.

Ahem.......

The whole loathing of the Randa signing here.

Larkin411
05-10-2005, 10:22 PM
Hellllooooo? Can anyone answer my Jacob question?

Wasn't he the best pinch-hitter in the league last year? I remember him having a crazy-good batting average as a pinch-hitter at some point. That and the surplus of players we seem to have(if you consider Rich a player-no offense to him as a person, just sayin').

Raisor
05-10-2005, 10:22 PM
Hellllooooo? Can anyone answer my Jacob question?

with Dunn, Kearns, WMP, Junior, Casey, and Freel in fronit of him at the positions he plays, how many games is dude going to get?

I'd rather they have gone with AJ ZAPPPPPP, if only because he's got a cooler name.

Caveat Emperor
05-10-2005, 10:22 PM
The only thought running through my mind right now is "Falkenborg, Mistress of the Dark."

Falkenborg: Resistence is Futile

letsgojunior
05-10-2005, 10:22 PM
Ahem.......

The whole loathing of the Randa signing here.

Hi Puffy!:wave:

Reds Nd2
05-10-2005, 10:23 PM
Hellllooooo? Can anyone answer my Jacob question?

I'm working on it, just had to check first. LOL Cruz is a OF/1B, mostly OF and the Reds have better options than Cruz when it comes to playing time.

traderumor
05-10-2005, 10:23 PM
Even though an out, Lopez is looking sweet.

KronoRed
05-10-2005, 10:24 PM
I think Freel went in for Randa, didn't he.

Grande has said both at some point this inning :confused:

traderumor
05-10-2005, 10:25 PM
Freel is probably trying to play both :)

TeamBoone
05-10-2005, 10:25 PM
Ok, thanks. I went in to look at his roster position before I asked the question because I haven't seen him play in so long that I forget where he plays. On the Reds active roster, he's listed as an infielder, so that's why I asked.

Raisor
05-10-2005, 10:26 PM
BIG SWEAT~! coming into the game.

pedro
05-10-2005, 10:26 PM
Ahem.......

The whole loathing of the Randa signing here.

oh yeah, and Puffy.

OnBaseMachine
05-10-2005, 10:28 PM
Encarnacion is 2-3 tonight. Trade Randa for a pitching prospect and call up Eddy. :D