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RosieRed
05-13-2005, 07:38 PM
No one else seems to want to start the game thread, so you're stuck with me doing it. :devil: ;)


CINCINNATI PHILADELPHIA
AVG HR RBI AVG HR RBI
Felipe Lopez SS .308 4 16 Jimmy Rollins SS .228 4 10
D'Angelo Jimenez 2B .213 0 4 Tomas Perez 1B .364 0 7
Sean Casey 1B .289 1 14 Bobby Abreu RF .313 8 22
Ken Griffey Jr CF .283 4 17 Pat Burrell LF .293 7 28
Adam Dunn LF .264 10 22 Placido Polanco 2B .253 1 8
Joe Randa 3B .294 4 20 David Bell 3B .213 1 10
Austin Kearns RF .213 5 15 Jason Michaels CF .284 1 5
Jason Larue C .169 0 6 Todd Pratt C .160 1 3
Eric Milton LHP .077 1 1 Brett Myers RHP .000 0 0
(2-3, 6.18) (2-2, 1.49)

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 07:43 PM
Wonder how many other teams putt he team leader in rbi and hrs in the 5 spot

Just wondering ;)

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 07:47 PM
Wonder how many other teams putt he team leader in rbi and hrs in the 5 spot

Just wondering ;)

Dave Miley: "Ohhh....you mean GIDP is a bad stat for a #3 hitter?"

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 07:50 PM
I mean..going by Dave's logic to get Dunn the most people in front of him, shouldn't he bat 7th or even 8th? ;)

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 07:57 PM
I mean..going by Dave's logic to get Dunn the most people in front of him, shouldn't he bat 7th or even 8th? ;)

Don't give him any ideas. ;)

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 08:00 PM
Fellas, let's be novel. Win 2 in-a-row today :)

LvJ
05-13-2005, 08:01 PM
Did Grande just turn into Darth Vader for a second? :runaway:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:07 PM
Lopez K's. 1 out.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:08 PM
Jimenez flies out. 2 outs.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 08:09 PM
Marty says Dunn will start at 1B tomorrow, with Freel in LF. Just fyi.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:10 PM
Myers throwing 94/95 MPH fastballs.

Casey lines out. 0-0, Mid. 1st.

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 08:10 PM
A 96 MPH fastball from a young pitcher..... :sigh:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:11 PM
Marty says Dunn will start at 1B tomorrow, with Freel in LF. Just fyi.

Cool. I think Sean needs a day off.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:11 PM
A 96 MPH fastball from a young pitcher..... :sigh:
Lets buy him :D

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:12 PM
Marty says Dunn will start at 1B tomorrow, with Freel in LF. Just fyi.
Dave will do something to mess this up, he'll give Cruz a start a 2nd or something ;)

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 08:12 PM
:pray: :milton: :pray:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:14 PM
Milton hitting 91 MPH on the gun right now.

Rollins flies out. 1 out.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:16 PM
Miton hit 92 MPH with his fastball...

Polanco flies out. 2 outs. Nice play by Lopez.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:17 PM
Abreu doubles.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:17 PM
At least it wasn't a homer.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 08:18 PM
Where's Raisor when we need him to track Milton's HR/IP? :)

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:19 PM
Burrell singles. 1-0 Phillies.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:20 PM
*Polanco batting now. Sorry, didn't pay attention before, lol.

Polanco grounds out to Milton. 1-0 Phillies after 1.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:22 PM
Where's Raisor when we need him to track Milton's HR/IP? :)

Maybe Milton will keep it in the park and not give Raisor any work? :D

TeamCasey
05-13-2005, 08:22 PM
BTW ..... I'm Spartacus!

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 08:23 PM
Just a little note-Griffey is 2 walks shy of 1,000 for his career.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:24 PM
Griffey fouls out. Nice play by Bell. 1 out.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:25 PM
BTW ..... I'm Spartacus!

No..I'M SPARTACUS!

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 08:26 PM
Wonder how many other teams putt he team leader in rbi and hrs in the 5 spot

Just wondering ;)

That's one philosophy. Another one is that you try and get as many runners on base before a guy like Dunn comes to the plate. That gives you an out or two to get some on.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Dunn K's.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Randa pops out. 1-0 Phillies, Mid. 2nd. Myers perfect through 2 IP.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:29 PM
Bell singles.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:30 PM
That's one philosophy. Another one is that you try and get as many runners on base before a guy like Dunn comes to the plate. That gives you an out or two to get some on.

Put him 3rd..let the 2 in front get on :D

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:32 PM
Michaels grounds out...runner to 2B, 1 out. Nice play by Randa.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:33 PM
Pratt doubles. 2-0 Phillies.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:34 PM
Myers grounds out, runner to 3B with 2 outs.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:35 PM
Rollins flies out. 2-0 Phils after 2.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:36 PM
Quiet in here tonight

Milton apathy?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:38 PM
Kearns HBP.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 08:38 PM
No, I'M Spartacus :)

PuffyPig
05-13-2005, 08:39 PM
Grande almost blew a gasket over the Phillies' pitcher's ability to get the runner over to third on a ground ball...with the 2nd out. Is he really that stupid?

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:40 PM
No, I'M Spartacus :)

Yer just trying to steal my pepsi ;)

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:40 PM
LaRue K's. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-13-2005, 08:41 PM
Larue now in an 0 for 23 slump

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:41 PM
Milton bunts the runner to 2B with 2 outs.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 08:42 PM
Yer just trying to steal my pepsi ;)

No....really....I.....well, ok :evil:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:44 PM
This ump. has a small zone going vertically.

Lopez walks... the ball got away from Pratt...1st and 3rd, 2 outs.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:44 PM
Lopez is now in the Dunn/Kearns/Pena list

Guys we need to keep around no matter what.

Yes I know he just walked..but he looked good doing it ;)

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 08:44 PM
Myers has a no-hitter going. I refuse to accept that.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:46 PM
Jimenez K's looking. 2-0 Phillies, Mid. 3rd.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 08:47 PM
Is it me, or does Jimenez complain about the strikezone more than most hitters?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:47 PM
Is it me, or does Jimenez complain about the strikezone more than most hitters?

I think he does. He seems to shake his head and scowl after every other strike called against him.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 08:48 PM
It's ridiculous that Miley continues to bat Jimenez and Casey ahead of Dunn. Why do you want a DP machine and automatic out getting more atbats a game than Dunn?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:48 PM
Perez flies out. 1 out.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 08:48 PM
Lopez is now in the Dunn/Kearns/Pena list

Guys we need to keep around no matter what.



Actually, last week in another thread I got into a discussion with, M2, I think, about this very thing. I really thing that, at the LEAST you keep Dunn, Lopez, and one of Kearns/Pena. While I'd love the idea of all four, one of the 3 OF's are going to get shipped out, IMO. But yes, I included Lopez in that list of players we (the Reds) need to build around.

WVRedsFan
05-13-2005, 08:49 PM
Jimenez K's looking. 2-0 Phillies, Mid. 3rd.

Maybe I'm full of it, but are we taking third strikes more and more. Maybe it's just Jiminez. Maybe it...no matter. This team is totally hit or miss on most nights. Tonight they are miss for some reason.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:50 PM
Abreu flies out. 2 outs. That one was to the fence.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 08:50 PM
Nice play Dunn! :clap: :clap:

Reds Fanatic
05-13-2005, 08:50 PM
Good catch by Dunn

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:52 PM
Burrell flies out. 2-0 Phillies after 3.

Junior looks effortless in CF right now. He is just gliding easily to everything, no matter where it's hit.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 08:52 PM
A fine catch, IMO. (keep in mind I'm at work and just reading what you guys are posting, but thought I could help my rep. score if I chimed in more :D )

Mitri
05-13-2005, 08:53 PM
I haven't been able to watch any games but it seems like the OF defense has been money all week

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:55 PM
Casey loops a single to LF despite getting one in on his hands.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 08:55 PM
A hit! No more no-hitter! :mooner:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:55 PM
Griffey GIDP. 2 outs.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 08:56 PM
Sigh.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:57 PM
Griff was just demonstrating to Casey how frustrating DPs are. ;)

Dunn walks on four pitches.

PuffyPig
05-13-2005, 08:57 PM
Casey is involved in about 95% of DP's the Reds are involved in, offense or defense.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 08:57 PM
Smart pitching by Myers. No use in throwing Dunn a meatball with 2 outs and no one on.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 08:58 PM
Randa grounds one into the hole at SS, nice play by Rollins...forces Dunn at 2B. 2-0 Phils, Mid. 4th.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:01 PM
Polanco HBP.

Falls City Beer
05-13-2005, 09:02 PM
Milton sucks. What else is there to say?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:05 PM
Thanks a lot TC. ;)

Bell walks. 1st and 2nd, 0 outs.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:05 PM
This isn't looking good. :help:

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 09:05 PM
Milton sucks. What else is there to say?

Watch out for the 3-run dinger here?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:05 PM
Michaels lines out to CF. 1 out.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:06 PM
At least we don't have him for 2 more years ya know....oh....well....wait a sec....shoot :cry:

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:07 PM
Oh, and thanks y'all :D:D:D

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:07 PM
Milton is gonna get a dp here

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:08 PM
Milton looking rather wild right now.

Pratt HR...5-0 Phillies

Reds Fanatic
05-13-2005, 09:08 PM
Watch out for the 3-run dinger here?
You called it 3 run home run.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:08 PM
Well in my world they did...

Is Dunn hurt?!?!?!?

No..just thought he was holding his arm funny..

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:08 PM
Watch out for the 3-run dinger here?

YES ;)

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:08 PM
:milton: :owned:

:bang:

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 09:09 PM
When is Dan O'Brien going to be held accountable for this crap? This is pathetic. Is Milton hurt??? :confused:

Eric_Davis
05-13-2005, 09:09 PM
C'mon, Milton! Step up to the plate and be the leader on this team you need to be.

Reds Nd2
05-13-2005, 09:09 PM
Sigh...

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:09 PM
Miltons not hurt..he just stinks

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:10 PM
Milton is just sickening to watch. He doesn't even have good control right now. He either misses by a lot or lofts them down the middle.

Myers grounds out. 2 outs.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:10 PM
Rollins singles hard off the wall on one-hop.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:11 PM
Really, at this point, can you be surprised by Milton giving up a Milton at least once if not twice a game. Really should come as no shock to any of us. Not even frustrating.


So if this does not change, which I do not see it doing, what then? Send him to the BP? That contract is quite the albatross right now and in the future if this does not change. And I praised the signing. :hurlandcry:

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 09:11 PM
You called it 3 run home run.

I hate being right, but Eric Milton makes it so easy. :censored:

Edited to add: I hate to say it, but a better fielder than Dunn probably could've brought that back from over the wall. There was a play to be made, but Dunn misjudged the baseball.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:13 PM
Perez walks. 1st and 2nd, 2 outs. This is VERY ugly.

And Gully makes the daily trip to the mound for a Reds starter within the first few innings. ;)

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:13 PM
I'm listening to the Phillies announcers: " ... And Milton falls behind yet another hitter."

Sigh.

Falls City Beer
05-13-2005, 09:13 PM
No way DanO returns next year as GM. Milton's contract is his death certificate.

Reds Fanatic
05-13-2005, 09:14 PM
Stone warming up

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:14 PM
Get him outta there..at least we aren't paying the bullpen a ton to stink.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 09:14 PM
Good idea to walk Perez with Abreu on deck.

:help:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:14 PM
Stone up in the Reds pen. Looks like more major bullpen abuse tonight.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:14 PM
Chat's open. :)

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:14 PM
I'm listening to the Phillies announcers: " ... And Milton falls behind yet another hitter."

Sigh.

Bet they giggle about it now that he's not pitching for them :bang:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:15 PM
Double steal...2nd and 3rd, 2 outs.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 09:15 PM
Chat's open. :)

I came in a little while ago and said hi to ya...and you ignored me. :(

;)

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:15 PM
No way DanO returns next year as GM. Milton's contract is his death certificate.

Is anyone going to be upset by that either? :shakesheadno:

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:16 PM
I came in a little while ago and said hi to ya...and you ignored me. :(

;)

Not true!

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CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:16 PM
Milton has thrown about 10 hanging pitches down the middle this inning.

He's lucky he hasn't given up more than the one HR.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 09:16 PM
Is anyone going to be upset by that either? :shakesheadno:

Nope. I'm counting down the days until DanO is fired. Miley too.

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 09:17 PM
No way DanO returns next year as GM. Milton's contract is his death certificate.

Should be Gully's, too, IMO.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:17 PM
Milton has thrown about 10 hanging pitches down the middle this inning.

He's lucky he hasn't given up more than the one HR.

Wait, isn't Abreu about up? :evil:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:17 PM
Abreu K's looking. 5-0 Phillies after 4.

Eric_Davis
05-13-2005, 09:17 PM
No way DanO returns next year as GM. Milton's contract is his death certificate.

Not true. You have to judge him by the development of the minor leagues, which is what he was brought in here to do.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 09:17 PM
Not true!

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Oops. I left right as you answered back. My fault! :)

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:18 PM
:shakesheadno:

Hey SC, are you making up your own smilies now?

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:18 PM
Should be Gully's, too, IMO.

Agree 100%. He has had enough rope already. He is at least partially to blame with a staff THIS bad.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:19 PM
No way Dan O gets canned..look how long it took them to fire Bowden

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:19 PM
Hey SC, are you making up your own smilies now?

Slow night at work and Milton on the mound...other ideas? :gigglestohimself: :D

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:20 PM
Kearns singles.

Eric_Davis
05-13-2005, 09:20 PM
This game is set up so that we could have a comeback that will be remembered as the point of no return. There. Who wants to take a swing at that one? I served it up well.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:21 PM
Slow night at work and Milton on the mound...other ideas? :gigglestohimself: :D

No, by all means, knock yourself out!

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 09:22 PM
LaRue is just swinging wildly at these pitches. He's looked beyond awful in these at bats over the last few weeks.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:22 PM
LaRue K's looking. 1 out.

Eric_Davis
05-13-2005, 09:22 PM
Let's get two runs this inning, then shut them down in the bottom of the fifth, and we're back in it.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:23 PM
Milton K's looking on three pitches. 2 outs.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:23 PM
Milton up to bat

I don't get this at all.

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 09:24 PM
This is painful to watch. Larue tries to break out of a hitting slump by taking two-strike pitches. Milton tries to get on base by bunting to the dug-out behind third base.

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 09:25 PM
Milton up to bat

I don't get this at all.

They're down by 5, and they simply can't blow the bullpen another night. They need to get at least through the 5th with Milton.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:25 PM
Lopez K's looking. 5-0 Phillies, Mid. 5th.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:26 PM
They're down by 5, and they simply can't blow the bullpen another night. They need to get at least through the 5th with Milton.

Then we'll be down by 10 ;)

westofyou
05-13-2005, 09:27 PM
Brett Myers has some good stuff.

Note: That's called giving credit to the other team instead of slamming the Reds.

It's sometimes applicable.

TeamCasey
05-13-2005, 09:27 PM
Thanks a lot TC. ;)


You're welcome. :) I appreciate it. You gave me the chance to play outside a bit more tonight.

Eric_Davis
05-13-2005, 09:28 PM
Did I miss something or did Milton not get pinch-hit for with a runner on first and only one out?

What is Miley smoking?

Didn't someone say we have like 13 pitchers on this team? Pinch-hit the catcher and move on. If an injury happens to the second catcher, we were going to lose the game anyway, so who cares?

Help!

Falls City Beer
05-13-2005, 09:29 PM
For all intents and purposes, Milton's major league career will end with his contract in Cincinnati. I couldn't care less that they throw his rag-arm out there as a sacrificial lamb to preserve guys like Wagner, who actually has a real career ahead of him (maybe).

Big Klu
05-13-2005, 09:29 PM
Milton up to bat

I don't get this at all.


They're down by 5, and they simply can't blow the bullpen another night. They need to get at least through the 5th with Milton.

And don't forget--they just don't have any position players available with the 13-man pitching staff they are carrying! ;)

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:29 PM
Burrell K's looking. 1 out.

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 09:30 PM
Brett Myers has some good stuff.

Note: That's called giving credit to the other team instead of slamming the Reds.

It's sometimes applicable.

Jelousy overrides common sense in this instance.

I mean, seriously, did the Reds FO oversleep for the meeting where everyone else picked out a hard-throwing youngster?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:30 PM
Polanco doubles.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:31 PM
Brett Myers has some good stuff.

Note: That's called giving credit to the other team instead of slamming the Reds.

It's sometimes applicable.

He is good

But it just shows even more how BAD Milton is ;)

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:32 PM
Bell singles. 1st and 3rd, 1 out.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:33 PM
Stone back up in the pen now.

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 09:34 PM
Jelousy overrides common sense in this instance.

I mean, seriously, did the Reds FO oversleep for the meeting where everyone else picked out a hard-throwing youngster?

What 'jelousy'? We can see that the Reds have no common sense, but what did they have to be jealous of? That they don't have a $25 million pitcher? FYI, it's "jealousy". ;)

PuffyPig
05-13-2005, 09:34 PM
Milton has pitched very badly this season, but he has never been this bad.

He has a history of have a 4+ ERA and winning games.

He's no where close to that.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:34 PM
Michaels walks. Bases loaded, 1 out.

Stone coming in to face Pratt.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:35 PM
Milton out..hooray :(

Reds Fanatic
05-13-2005, 09:35 PM
Milton horrible again tonight. 4 1/3 IP, 8 H, 3W, 1 HR, 1 HBP, 5 ER so far

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:36 PM
Milton out..hooray :(

But with one out and a runner on, he should have been out before the inning started. C'est la vie. Come Sept. both Miley and DanO will be gone and we can start rebuilding, again......

Eric_Davis
05-13-2005, 09:36 PM
That decision to not pinch-hit for Milton looks so good right now.

Miley should be fired on Sunday night if we don't win this series against the Phillies.

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 09:36 PM
Milton has pitched very badly this season, but he has never been this bad.

He has a history of have a 4+ ERA and winning games.

He's no where close to that.

If this isn't a clue that Don Gullet isn't the man the Reds need at pitching coach helm, I don't know what is. It seems that EVERY pitcher regresses under Gullet. I guess it's more important to please the old-timer ticket buyers than the fans that don't know a thing about Don Gullet. :rolleyes:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:37 PM
Pratt singles. 6-0 Phillies.Bases still loaded, 1 out.

Pratt's 5 RBI so far tonight ties his career high for one game.

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Milton horrible again tonight. 4 1/3 IP, 8 H, 3W, 1 HR, 1 HBP, 5 ER so far

Right about now I'm wishing we had Jimmy Haynes. Didn't he at least have better stuff than Milton?

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 09:38 PM
What 'jelousy'? We can see that the Reds have no common sense, but what did they have to be jealous of? That they don't have a $25 million pitcher? FYI, it's "jealousy". ;)

The Reds are inept and poorly run.

I, as a fan, am jealous of the fact that it's been almost a decade since I've been able to root for someone who didn't rely on the Jedi Mind Trick to retire hitters. :rolleyes:

Oh well.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:39 PM
Myers K's. 2 outs.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 09:39 PM
Pratt needs a triple for the cycle. I don't see him getting the cycle as my grandma can outrun Pratt

westofyou
05-13-2005, 09:40 PM
Right about now I'm wishing we had Jimmy Haynes. Didn't he at least have better stuff than Milton?

No.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:41 PM
Rollins doubles... 8-0 Phillies. :help:

westofyou
05-13-2005, 09:41 PM
Good game on at 10:30 EST, Braves/Dodgers.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:42 PM
8-0 Phillies after 5.

Reds Nd2
05-13-2005, 09:42 PM
I don't understand going to the bullpen in that situation. It's going to be difficult to come back the way Myers is pitching. Why not leave Milton out there and give the bullpen a rest tonight? At least let Milton taste his own bases loaded cooking and let Stone start with a fresh plate.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:42 PM
Rollins doubles... 8-0 Phillies. :help:


:owned: :bowrofl: :ughmamoru :barf:




:cry:

Reds Fanatic
05-13-2005, 09:42 PM
8 earned runs allowed for Milton tonight. His ERA is now 7.21.

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 09:43 PM
At least I am taping the Balt/CWS game so I can see baseball and a couple of pitching staffs that know how to pitch

:cry: <------ :sad:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:44 PM
I don't understand going to the bullpen in that situation. It's going to be difficult to come back the way Myers is pitching. Why not leave Milton out there and give the bullpen a rest tonight? At least let Milton taste his own bases loaded cooking and let Stone start with a fresh plate.

Plus it would have been fun to see how high his ERA was after this game if he had stayed out there. He's been so bad, in a sick way it's funny to see how bad it can get for him.

Jimenez singles.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 09:44 PM
Good game on at 10:30 EST, Braves/Dodgers.

I'll have to watch that game. Nothing like watching a game at beautiful Dodger Stadium and listening to Vin Scully.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:45 PM
Casey DP. # 12

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 09:46 PM
Yup... :bang:

ETA: I guess it's fruitless to continue complaining about batting a DP machine in the #3 hole, since it obviously isn't going to change.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 09:46 PM
Casey grounds into a DP, just like clockwork.

:rolleyes:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:47 PM
Griffey flies out.8-0, Mid. 6th.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:49 PM
Abreu hits an infield single.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:50 PM
How many hits did the Reds give up yesterday? Are we still in that streak of giving up double-digit hits?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:51 PM
Burrell GIDP. 2 outs.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:52 PM
Polanco grounds out. Nice play by Lopez. 8-0 Phils after 6.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 09:53 PM
How many hits did the Reds give up yesterday? Are we still in that streak of giving up double-digit hits?

12 yesterday, 11 tonight.

The streak lives...

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 09:54 PM
Put up the white flag :(

westofyou
05-13-2005, 09:54 PM
SEASON
AT BATS displayed only--not a sorting criteria
RUNS CREATED/GAME vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria

GIDP YEAR GIDP AB RC/G
1 Jim Rice 1984 36 657 0.09
2 Jim Rice 1985 35 546 0.58
T3 Jackie Jensen 1954 32 580 0.68
T3 Ivan Rodriguez 1999 32 600 0.72
T3 Cal Ripken 1985 32 642 0.53
T6 Tony Armas 1983 31 574 -1.53
T6 Ben Grieve 2000 31 594 0.08
T6 Bobby Doerr 1949 31 541 1.33
T6 Jim Rice 1983 31 626 1.82
T10 Dave Winfield 1983 30 598 0.99
T10 Carl Yastrzemski 1964 30 567 0.97
T10 Ernie Lombardi 1938 30 489 2.19

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:55 PM
12 yesterday, 11 tonight.

The streak lives...

I thought so.

:runawaycr :runawaycr

westofyou
05-13-2005, 09:55 PM
Note the huge number of Reds Sox on that list

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 09:55 PM
Reds are getting shut out. I refuse to accept that.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:56 PM
Dunn walks.

traderumor
05-13-2005, 09:56 PM
If the Reds are not going to fire Gullett, guys like Milton that have come from other organizations need to scrap whatever crap is being fed to them. Milton hopped up a 93 four seamer on Abreu. I don't buy Welsh's "he can't throw as hard as he used to." He's 28 years old, sure he can, unless his arm is injured, which I don't think it is. You do not bring in major league pitchers and teach them a "new" fastball. Right now, he is not getting beat with his best stuff, he is getting beat following bad advice.

westofyou
05-13-2005, 09:57 PM
Dunn walks.

29 BB and 32 K's - I like that ratio.

westofyou
05-13-2005, 09:59 PM
If the Reds are not going to fire Gullett, guys like Milton that have come from other organizations need to scrap whatever crap is being fed to them. Milton hopped up a 93 four seamer on Abreu. I don't buy Welsh's "he can't throw as hard as he used to." He's 28 years old, sure he can, unless his arm is injured, which I don't think it is. You do not bring in major league pitchers and teach them a "new" fastball. Right now, he is not getting beat with his best stuff, he is getting beat following bad advice.

Arm?

Or Knee?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 09:59 PM
Randa doubles. 2nd and 3rd, 0 outs.

Coffey up in the pen.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 10:00 PM
29 BB and 32 K's - I like that ratio.

I was just about to type that.

On pace to walk around 132 times. That would tie the Reds record held by Joe Morgan.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Kearns with a sac. fly...runner to 3B with 1 out. 8-1 Phils.

Big Klu
05-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Sac Fly for Kearns...

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 10:01 PM
Kearns with the most important stat....sac flys

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:01 PM
LaRue singles. 8-2 Phillies. LaRue's streak gone.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 10:02 PM
Reds are getting shut out. I refuse to accept that.

:beerme:

OldCat
05-13-2005, 10:03 PM
Rosie -- you need to 'not accept' a whole lot more

westofyou
05-13-2005, 10:03 PM
I was just about to type that.

On pace to walk around 132 times. That would tie the Reds record held by Joe Morgan.

and leave all the heavy lifting for Randa. ;)

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:03 PM
Cruz K's. 2 outs

traderumor
05-13-2005, 10:03 PM
That sac fly was a thing of beauty. Man, I'm glad that ball didn't get out of the park

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:04 PM
Lopez lines out. 8-2 Phils, Mid. 7th.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 10:05 PM
Rosie -- you need to 'not accept' a whole lot more
Any more losses, any more Milton homers :D

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Rosie -- you need to 'not accept' a whole lot more

Reds are losing. I refuse to accept that. :)

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Coffey in.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:07 PM
Bell fouls out. 1 out. Nice play over the shoulder by Randa.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:09 PM
Michaels K's. 2 outs.

westofyou
05-13-2005, 10:10 PM
hey who's that?

It's freaking Todd Pratt.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:10 PM
Pratt singles for his fourth hit.

traderumor
05-13-2005, 10:10 PM
I am soooooooooooooooooooooo tired of watching freakin' scrubs wear us out.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 10:10 PM
and leave all the heavy lifting for Randa. ;)

and Aurilia.

woy, any stats out there that show approx. how many runs the Reds have lost by hitting Dunn so far down in the lineup opposed to him batting 2nd?

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:11 PM
Howard doubles, 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs.

traderumor
05-13-2005, 10:12 PM
Man, Pratt is a slow grandma, he should have been able to crawl home on that hit

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2005, 10:12 PM
Ryan Howard was 1-19 before that double.

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2005, 10:12 PM
Am I dreaming? Did a Reds pitcher just hit 96 MPH?! :eek:

westofyou
05-13-2005, 10:12 PM
and Aurilia.

woy, any stats out there that show approx. how many runs the Reds have lost by hitting Dunn so far down in the lineup opposed to him batting 2nd?

As many as the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin?

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 10:13 PM
I wish I'd kept track of all the "career" games players have against us. Both pitchers and hitters.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:14 PM
Rollins walks. Bases loaded, 2 outs.

traderumor
05-13-2005, 10:14 PM
Coffey and Wagner need to learn that there are three, not two outs, in an inning.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:15 PM
Perez doubles. 11-2 Phillies.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 10:15 PM
Well at least it wasn't a grand slam

traderumor
05-13-2005, 10:16 PM
11 runs with two hitters in the lineup. Two hitters.

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:18 PM
Abreu almost with another HR...12-2 Phillies.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 10:18 PM
12-2 bad guys.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 10:19 PM
This team drives me crazy. CRAZY I say! :runaway:

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 10:22 PM
Am I dreaming? Did a Reds pitcher just hit 96 MPH?! :eek:

I think that was the recording of how fast that pitch was going before it hit the wall in right-center. :laugh:

traderumor
05-13-2005, 10:22 PM
That was all started by not being able to get the number 8 hitter out with two outs. How much longer can they let Miley and Gullett go on?

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 10:22 PM
That was all started by not being able to get the number 8 hitter out with two outs. How much longer can they let Miley and Gullett go on?
2007.

ws1990reds
05-13-2005, 10:24 PM
That was all started by not being able to get the number 8 hitter out with two outs. How much longer can they let Miley and Gullett go on?

I get the feeling that the Reds FO has no clue as to what we forum junkies think. The only way they "get it" is by the number of tickets sold. :angry:

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:25 PM
Sorry folks, I'm all PBP out tonight. I can't even describe this debacle anymore.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 10:26 PM
Don't blame you Cincy :(

traderumor
05-13-2005, 10:27 PM
If it takes that long, I will be on a Reds sabbatical again, circa 1996-1998. There are plenty of other things to do.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 10:32 PM
Freel in CF..Bergolla at SS (nice play he just made) Lopez at 3rd

CincyRedsFan30
05-13-2005, 10:32 PM
Lopez' throws look very good tonight. I think he's "getting it".

OldCat
05-13-2005, 10:33 PM
Am I dreaming? Did a Reds pitcher just hit 96 MPH?! :eek:

Wasnt Freel doing that when he got his DUI?

TeamCasey
05-13-2005, 10:41 PM
Sorry folks, I'm all PBP out tonight. I can't even describe this debacle anymore.

:beerme: You get a major cheers tonight. Great job.

TeamCasey
05-13-2005, 10:43 PM
Bergolla looks 10 years old!

Redmachine2003
05-13-2005, 10:44 PM
Gully has to go. It is time to make a change in the pitching department.

RosieRed
05-13-2005, 10:45 PM
Gully has to go. It is time to make a change in the pitching department.

I agree, but DanO strongly implied that there won't be any changes to the coaching staff. (In an article today.)

SirFelixCat
05-13-2005, 10:46 PM
Bergolla looks 10 years old!

Both in face and build. See him from up close and you would really agree with that. :laugh:

37red
05-13-2005, 10:47 PM
I just came home and saw the score........... I have to admit I just kind of grinned with a lost sort of feeling. Sorry everybody, I think we have to start rooting for them as we would a little league sort of team. My wife and I just sort of laugh as the bottom falls out and the team implodes.

KronoRed
05-13-2005, 10:49 PM
I agree, but DanO strongly implied that there won't be any changes to the coaching staff. (In an article today.)

:rant:

Because everything is working so well right now

Redmachine2003
05-13-2005, 10:49 PM
I agree, but DanO strongly implied that there won't be any changes to the coaching staff. (In an article today.)
DanO can get his Cheese with Gully if he doesn't have the you know whats to do what is needed.

TeamCasey
05-13-2005, 11:02 PM
It's REALLY hard to watch them implode so early. I get apathetic .... a glimpse of hope, disappointed, apathetic.