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Joseph
05-16-2005, 08:05 PM
Road sweep #1, and series sweep #2 begins tonight.

Reds:

R. Freel 2b
F. Lopez ss
S. Casey 1b
K. Griffey Jr. cf
A. Dunn lf
J. Randa 3b
A. Kearns rf
J. LaRue c
P. Wilson p


Mets:

J. Reyes ss
M. Cameron rf
C. Beltran cf
C. Floyd lf
M. Piazza c
D. Mientkiewicz 1b
D. Wright 3b
K. Matsui 2b
K. Benson p


Pitching matchup:

Wilson, 1-4 with a 7.46 ERA on the season pitches for the Redlegs
The Mets counter with the reason for the pitching overpayout during the offseason in Kris Benson, he of the 6.75 ERA and 0-1 record this year.

Should be a real pitchers duel.

Joseph
05-16-2005, 08:11 PM
According to FSN, Benson has electric stuff.

CalSean
05-16-2005, 08:14 PM
:( Man, all the action for this thread is in the Royal Forums. Where is everyone. I feel like a low life. Oh, well, Go Reds.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:14 PM
According to FSN, Benson has electric stuff.

Unfortunately, we make every pitcher seem like he has electric stuff.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2005, 08:15 PM
We need some Electric Bugaloo.

Joseph
05-16-2005, 08:16 PM
Breakin' 2 Electric Bugaloo?

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:17 PM
If Paul Wilson struggles again tonight, I don't care what he says -- DL him. He needs to be able to get out Major League hitters and he isn't doing that. But I guess we'll see what happens tonight. (Actually, we will probably have a pretty good indication in the first inning)

Joseph
05-16-2005, 08:18 PM
Yep, the first inning will be the key for him, as always.

Benson looked solid in the first inning.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2005, 08:20 PM
The original is always better.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:20 PM
That didn't take long...

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:20 PM
That didn't take long. Paul Wilson is atrocious

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:21 PM
If Paul Wilson struggles again tonight, I don't care what he says -- DL him. He needs to be able to get out Major League hitters and he isn't doing that. But I guess we'll see what happens tonight. (Actually, we will probably have a pretty good indication in the first inning)

First batter

Joseph
05-16-2005, 08:21 PM
Not long at all

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:22 PM
The mets announcer said that lefties are hitting .413 with 4 homers vs. Wilson. Bad sign

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:24 PM
1-0 Mets. But in all honesty this inning was shaping up to be a whole lot worse than this.

Joseph
05-16-2005, 08:25 PM
1-0 Mets. But in all honesty this inning was shaping up to be a whole lot worse than this.

Hey, its not over yet ;)

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:25 PM
I guess I spoke a little too soon.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:27 PM
Marty: "There is the inclination to say 'Here we go again,' but we have thought that and said that entirely too many times this season with Paul Wilson and Eric Milton on the mound." :laugh:

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:27 PM
Floyd's homer was an 87 mph fastball with zero movement according to the announcers

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:27 PM
That's it....eye candy time

Kris Benson's wife (www.annabenson.net)


This will be easier to look at!

RedsMan3203
05-16-2005, 08:28 PM
Nothing like being down 2-0 after 1 inning.

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:28 PM
Well Paul kept it under 10 this time, lets see if he keeps it under 5 given up this game. For his sake I hope he is hurt b/c he stinks lately.

Joseph
05-16-2005, 08:28 PM
That's it....eye candy time

Kris Benson's wife (www.annabenson.net)


This will be easier to look at!

That one on the calendar was always one of my favs pics of her.

ws1990reds
05-16-2005, 08:30 PM
When will the Reds put Wilson on the DL (permanently)? He's useless. :rolleyes:

schroomytunes
05-16-2005, 08:32 PM
I think there is an injury and he's trying to work through it.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:34 PM
off topic: UC is having a press conference at 8:30

RedsMan3203
05-16-2005, 08:34 PM
When will the Reds put Wilson on the DL (permanently)? He's useless. :rolleyes:

It was just the 1st inning -- Have to see how the rest of the game goes... I mean Harrang gave up 3 runs in 1 inning and all hell didn't break lose.... Hopefully Pauly settles down and pitches some baseball.

But, given the past 3 starts... something has to be wrong.


I say, DL Wilson once Pena is ready to come back and put Ramirez in his spot.

toledodan
05-16-2005, 08:34 PM
That one on the calendar was always one of my favs pics of her.


all i can say is WOW!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:35 PM
Why can't this team ever score with runners in scoring position and less than 2 outs? Randa fouled off two very hittable pitches before striking out!

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:35 PM
all i can say is WOW!

He gets to go home to her whether he pitches good or gets lit up

RedsMan3203
05-16-2005, 08:36 PM
off topic: UC is having a press conference at 8:30


Anyword if its on Huggins or not?

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:36 PM
I have to say I am enjoying the Mets announcers, they made Piazza's play on the wild pitch funny by describing it as Piazza looking for the ball and no one attempting to help him.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:37 PM
Anyword if its on Huggins or not?

It's about Huggs....but last report is Huggs won't accept any buyout and will play out his contract

I'm not sure what is up now

redsfan30
05-16-2005, 08:37 PM
off topic: UC is having a press conference at 8:30
Is the Huggy Bear getting the axe?

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:37 PM
off topic: UC is having a press conference at 8:30

Hmm... I wonder... :ughmamoru

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:38 PM
Kearns is getting pitched around to get to Larue according to the Met's guys b/c Larue is so cold, obviously they haven't seen AK lately

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:38 PM
Is the Huggy Bear getting the axe?

If so...this city won't be too kind to Nancy tomorrow

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:41 PM
If so...this city won't be too kind to Nancy tomorrow

I don't know about that. As a non-UC fan, I think getting rid of Thuggins is EXACTLY what that program needs. There is no excuse for him bringing some of those players in.

LaRue drives in a run with two outs! :eek:

RedsMan3203
05-16-2005, 08:41 PM
If so...this city won't be too kind to Nancy tomorrow


I think the only time the city is happy ( during the past 2 yeras ) during UC basketball and Bengals football. Any other time.. its dead.

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:42 PM
Well at least Larue gets a hit after seeing the 4th slider of the AB

RedsMan3203
05-16-2005, 08:42 PM
LaRue drives in a run with two outs! :eek:


:eek: :eek: :thumbup:

RedsMan3203
05-16-2005, 08:42 PM
Benson up to 41 pitches.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:43 PM
Is Larue coming around?

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 08:48 PM
The hit parade continues against Paul Wilson

Aronchis
05-16-2005, 08:48 PM
Paulie, Paulie, PAULIE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(DanO thinking to himself).

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:49 PM
2nd and 3rd with no outs. Paul Wilson is just killing the Reds. This situation has to be addressed ASAP. I can't see why he continues to get run out there every 5 days. Ramirez should take his place in the rotation

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:49 PM
84 mph fastball to Wright

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:50 PM
Here is a question to ponder: If you had to win a game and had to start either Paul Wilson or Eric Milton, who would you choose?

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:50 PM
Paul seems to get ahead of hitters but 84mph fastballs do put away major league hitters

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:51 PM
Why would Casey cut that off??

OldXOhio
05-16-2005, 08:51 PM
Here is a question to ponder: If you had to win a game and had to start either Paul Wilson or Eric Milton, who would you choose?

(c) Steve Parris

LincolnparkRed
05-16-2005, 08:52 PM
Here is a question to ponder: If you had to win a game and had to start either Paul Wilson or Eric Milton, who would you choose?

Neither

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:52 PM
Further evidence why Adam Dunn should be starting at first base

BuckeyeRed27
05-16-2005, 08:54 PM
Looks like we are going to have to score about 19 runs tonight.

What is wrong with Paul Wilson????

WMR
05-16-2005, 08:56 PM
You start Eric Milton. He has at least shown the capability of striking ppl. out. Paul Wilson is hurt. He's got to be, there's no other excuse for these sorts of outings.

The Front Office/Miley say that he says he is fine, but he's obviously not fine, and he's killing this ballclub with these sorts of "performances"

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 08:57 PM
Why bunt when your ahead 3-1 on the count to lead off the inning?

Aronchis
05-16-2005, 08:57 PM
Actually Gullet is worried that Wilson is hurt but nobody has "officially" taken action.

RedsMan3203
05-16-2005, 08:58 PM
Here is a question to ponder: If you had to win a game and had to start either Paul Wilson or Eric Milton, who would you choose?


Do I have to?

WMR
05-16-2005, 08:59 PM
Why bunt when your ahead 3-1 on the count to lead off the inning?

Why does this ballclub do 85% of the things that they do?

PickOff
05-16-2005, 09:00 PM
Looks like we are going to have to score about 19 runs tonight.

What is wrong with Paul Wilson????

Nothing is wrong with Wilson, he'll tell you that, Gullet will tell you that, and O'Brien will tell you that he's gonna believe whatever comes out of Paul's mouth. I have to say, he had maybe four more mph on his fast ball last year, but it wouldn't make that much difference anyway. He can't pitch with 90 percent grit and 10 percent guile.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 09:00 PM
You start Eric Milton. He has at least shown the capability of striking ppl. out. Paul Wilson is hurt. He's got to be, there's no other excuse for these sorts of outings.


There is at least one other excuse: He is just not that good. Last year was the abberration for P. Wilson, and the Reds FO was fooled by it. And even last year after the All-Star break he was terrible. His ERA since that time is over 6.00. I don't think he is struggling, I think these are realistic results for him. He was released by the Devil Rays, for crying out loud.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 09:04 PM
Mike Cameron is going to get fined in the Mets' kangaroo court for striking out twice against Paul Wilson

WMR
05-16-2005, 09:04 PM
Grande was just saying how Belisle went to go see the Liberty Bell and Coffey was making his first trip to NYC... Glad that the Reds can at least serve as a travel agency if nothing else.

Oh yeah: Did anyone else hear George say--AGAIN--that the Reds couldn't wait to get back Aurilia's "solid" presence???? I really want to throttle that guy sometimes. :bang: :angry: :angry: :help: :angry: :bang:

WMR
05-16-2005, 09:07 PM
There is at least one other excuse: He is just not that good. Last year was the abberration for P. Wilson, and the Reds FO was fooled by it. And even last year after the All-Star break he was terrible. His ERA since that time is over 6.00. I don't think he is struggling, I think these are realistic results for him. He was released by the Devil Rays, for crying out loud.

:help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :(

Aronchis
05-16-2005, 09:11 PM
Wow, Wilson went a whole inning without giving up a run and against the meat of the Mets order, miracles still happen.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 09:18 PM
Outside of the first series of the year, what, exactly, has Joe Randa contributed to this team. It seems like he is always up with the bases loaded and less than 2 outs and he can't do anything. Again, there is a reason teams like the Pirates and Royals didn't want him.

Joseph
05-16-2005, 09:22 PM
Outside of the first series of the year, what, exactly, has Joe Randa contributed to this team. It seems like he is always up with the bases loaded and less than 2 outs and he can't do anything. Again, there is a reason teams like the Pirates and Royals didn't want him.

Hopefully he'll contribute some trade value come June 15th

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 09:29 PM
Outside of the first series of the year, what, exactly, has Joe Randa contributed to this team. It seems like he is always up with the bases loaded and less than 2 outs and he can't do anything. Again, there is a reason teams like the Pirates and Royals didn't want him.

He's been solid on defense

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 09:30 PM
Wow...somebody must be a Joe Randa fan :laugh:

(Not you Matt)

Aronchis
05-16-2005, 09:31 PM
Wilson is too good for the Mets

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 09:33 PM
I didn't hear WLW cut into the game with info. on Huggins. What's going on?

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 09:36 PM
I spoke too soon...Huggins news conference on now. Apparently he is staying to coach the remaining 2 years on his contract. Disappointing UC

PickOff
05-16-2005, 09:41 PM
How did Lopez get doubled up? Anybody watching the game?

Joseph
05-16-2005, 09:42 PM
How did Lopez get doubled up? Anybody watching the game?

FO to Cameron, FeLo thrown out at home

guttle11
05-16-2005, 09:43 PM
just thought id pass this along, huggins will stay at UC for two more years then retire, that is the right move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PickOff
05-16-2005, 09:43 PM
Tried to tag, huh? Was it a baserunning error or just a great throw by Cameron?

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 09:45 PM
I spoke too soon...Huggins news conference on now. Apparently he is staying to coach the remaining 2 years on his contract. Disappointing UC

And if he's winning in the Big East, and everything is improving (image, which seems to be all Nancy cares about) how could Zimpher let him walk without looking dumb?

It's another way for Huggins to prove he deserves to stay there


For now, it's the right move...

guttle11
05-16-2005, 09:47 PM
i want to make a bet with the moderators. If Im right my reputation goes to 100, if im wrong, it goes to -10.

Paul Wilson has a groin problem. Hes not pushing off well, and his swing looked like all arms. My guess, he will be on the DL by June 1st!

Aronchis
05-16-2005, 09:49 PM
Wilson's golden era is over

baboone
05-16-2005, 09:51 PM
Marty going on and on about how Wilson must be hurt because he's not throwing that hard... Uh, maybe that would explain his 4.84 career ERA.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 09:52 PM
just thought id pass this along, huggins will stay at UC for two more years then retire, that is the right move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I disagree. The Roy Bright situation should have been the last straw. His players have long been out-of-control yet he continues to bring in questionable characters. It's no secret what UC's national reputation is ONLY because of its thug-life basketball program. That's all Bob Huggins' fault. There is a reason that UC was voted, by far, college basketball's "Most Hated" program by Sports Illustrated last year.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 10:05 PM
Wilson charged with what....6 earned runs tonight?


At least he's consistant :help:

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 10:06 PM
Actually, this was one of Wilson's "better" outings so far this year.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 10:08 PM
Actually, this was one of Wilson's "better" outings so far this year.

That's depressing...

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2005, 10:15 PM
Nothing like the ol' wild pitch/error on the same play. Man my interest in this team is falling fast

baboone
05-16-2005, 10:16 PM
9-2. this is getting good.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 10:18 PM
Little League teams are better than this...

...Leelee Sobieski on NBC :)

Coffeybro
05-16-2005, 10:24 PM
Coffey was making his first trip to NYC

Just correcting this. The entire family went to NYC back when Todd was 9. First night we went to a Yankee's game. Next morning our car was stolen out of the hotel parking lot. We flew home. The funny thing was Todd was afraid of flying at that time. He told us to put him on a bus home. We convinced him the plane woudln't go higher than the hotel we stayed in. I will never forget him yelling at us on the plane. YOU LIED.

TC81190
05-16-2005, 10:25 PM
Why isn't Coffeybro way past 200 in rep points?

CTA513
05-16-2005, 10:33 PM
Hopefully todays performance earned Wilson a trip to the DL so we can have someone else pitch and have a chance to win.

Marc D
05-16-2005, 10:40 PM
Hopefully todays performance earned Wilson a trip to the DL so we can have someone else pitch and have a chance to win.

That's the scariest/saddest part of it all...there is no one else.

PickOff
05-16-2005, 10:41 PM
The lizard. Keep Claussen in.

Coffeybro
05-16-2005, 10:43 PM
Why isn't Coffeybro way past 200 in rep points?

I haven't posted that often since the new system. If I can be promised to make it to 200 or above AND be ensured of protection from Todd's fastballs :evil: , I may grab 3 pics and scan them of Todd in his diapers at a year and a half with a braves helmet and glove going through a wind up. :thumbup:

KronoRed
05-16-2005, 10:44 PM
That looked low

Bah

TC81190
05-16-2005, 11:15 PM
Wow. Game has been over for some time and no one says ONE thing to acknowledge it.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 11:17 PM
There was a game? ;)

TC81190
05-16-2005, 11:18 PM
:laugh:

OldXOhio
05-16-2005, 11:19 PM
I guess there's nothing more that can be said about this nightly replay of the Reds brand of baseball. They are what they are, a very bad team.

KittyDuran
05-16-2005, 11:19 PM
Wow. Game has been over for some time and no one says ONE thing to acknowledge it.The Dragons won 6-5 - oh, you mean the Reds game... ;)

Joseph
05-16-2005, 11:27 PM
I haven't posted that often since the new system. If I can be promised to make it to 200 or above AND be ensured of protection from Todd's fastballs :evil: , I may grab 3 pics and scan them of Todd in his diapers at a year and a half with a braves helmet and glove going through a wind up. :thumbup:

I like that idea :lol:

KronoRed
05-16-2005, 11:30 PM
The Dragons won 6-5 - oh, you mean the Reds game... ;)

Call the Dragons up ;)

Joseph
05-16-2005, 11:36 PM
I disagree. The Roy Bright situation should have been the last straw. His players have long been out-of-control yet he continues to bring in questionable characters. It's no secret what UC's national reputation is ONLY because of its thug-life basketball program. That's all Bob Huggins' fault. There is a reason that UC was voted, by far, college basketball's "Most Hated" program by Sports Illustrated last year.

Do you think UC will have the same notoriety on a national level without Huggins though? It's not a UK, UNC, Duke, etal, and it would probably drop considerably without him.

Matt700wlw
05-16-2005, 11:40 PM
Do you think UC will have the same notoriety on a national level without Huggins though? It's not a UK, UNC, Duke, etal, and it would probably drop considerably without him.

And Nancy would have some explaining to do.....

...hopefully when the new AD gets in, Huggs will get his extension -- not counting on it, but hopefully the AD will have some sense

CTA513
05-17-2005, 12:10 AM
That's the scariest/saddest part of it all...there is no one else.

Elizardo Ramirez could also take his spot since hes already up here. If not I think Luke Hudson is waiting to be brought back, and if they really need a starter Josh Hancock is almost ready to come back. Either of those guys would be better than Wilson right now.