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Puffy
05-18-2005, 05:03 PM
Danny Graves even blows others people's save opportunities!!

Sorry Mr. Looper, no save for you!

MWM
05-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Graves needs to be released. Seriously! He's worthless and no one is going to trade for him.

westofyou
05-18-2005, 05:06 PM
Graves is to pitching what Palmer is to Chocolate

A fraud.

Stormy
05-18-2005, 05:06 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Saying Danny Graves is pitching batting practice is no longer a joke. It's true. I would bet most major legue hitters hit Graves just as well as they do their batting practice pitcher.

WHIP now over 2.00 and a BAA over .300, and I'm sure an OPSA to match. He is virtually pitching batting practice, and has been reduced to a 1 pitch pitcher, whose primary pitch has a nasty propensity to stay up in the zone rather than sink with any regularity.

MWM
05-18-2005, 05:06 PM
Cliff Floyd was trying to hit the ball 700 feet with those swings.

Mutaman
05-18-2005, 05:06 PM
The New York media fully expected a sweep and they were right. This team has reached the level of noncompetitive. Here's the good news--- it doesn't get any worse than this.

Stormy
05-18-2005, 05:08 PM
Reverting to the secondary pitch, his backdoor curve, which hasn't been effective since about 2000.

M2
05-18-2005, 05:09 PM
Graves is horrible, but David Wright's 100% ballplayer regardless of that.

westofyou
05-18-2005, 05:09 PM
bad enough to send me uptown early for lunch.

MWM
05-18-2005, 05:10 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:clap: :clap: :clap:

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

westofyou
05-18-2005, 05:10 PM
Graves is horrible, but David Wright's 100% ballplayer regardless of that.

Yep... that's true.

Roy Tucker
05-18-2005, 05:10 PM
You know, I don't think it will solve anything, but if the Reds continue to put on exhibitions like the one today (and like the many that have gone on for the last 6 weeks), I gotta think Miley's job is going to be in jeopardy soon. Jeez these guys are playing lousy baseball.

What's the saying? You can't fire all the players so the manager goes.

Stormy
05-18-2005, 05:11 PM
At first, I thought he wanted to stay out there longer because opposing fans don't 'boo' him. However, now there are some pretty derisive chants finding their way towards the Baby Faced A$$assin, even on the Road.

I feel small.

Red Leader
05-18-2005, 05:12 PM
You know, I don't think it will solve anything, but if the Reds continue to put on exhibitions like the one today (and like the many that have gone on for the last 6 weeks), I gotta think Miley's job is going to be in jeopardy soon. Jeez these guys are playing lousy baseball.

What's the saying? You can't fire all the players so the manager goes.

Unfortunately, I don't even think the F.O will get that right. :rolleyes:

Puffy
05-18-2005, 05:12 PM
The Reds record thus far in May is 4-13 for a winning percentage of .235

flyer85
05-18-2005, 05:12 PM
Here's the good news--- it doesn't get any worse than this.Are you sure? That's what was being said at the end of April. I have a feeling we haven't seen the bottom yet.

M2
05-18-2005, 05:12 PM
maybe it is because both with routine plays?

Nah, it's because Marty's the Jim Ross of baseball broadcasters.

corkedbat
05-18-2005, 05:13 PM
Here's the good news--- it doesn't get any worse than this.

There's always Aurillia's return from the DL. (Can't even bring myself to post a laughing smilie on that one)

traderumor
05-18-2005, 05:13 PM
We need Bob Uecker to announce our games. He would have enough material to hold him over for years with this joke of a baseball team.

Mutaman
05-18-2005, 05:13 PM
I've been a Reds fan since 1959. This may be the lowpoint. This is worse than the early 80's.

Roy Tucker
05-18-2005, 05:13 PM
I feel small.
I bet Danny rues the day he said that.

M2
05-18-2005, 05:14 PM
And our old friend Manny Aybar in to push in the dagger to the hilt.

smith288
05-18-2005, 05:15 PM
No...it can get worse than this. I say this beause I said it after the Milwaukee series....it got worse. I said it after the St Louis series...it got worse. I thought we saw some positives early on in the Philly series...nope...got worse.

I have no reason to think we have bottomed out with what I have recently seen from the group of "baseball" players.

pedro
05-18-2005, 05:15 PM
stick a fork in him. graves is done.

Mutaman
05-18-2005, 05:15 PM
Are you sure? That's what was being said at the end of April. I have a feeling we haven't seen the bottom yet.

We could lose every game the rest of the year and I would't feel any worse about this organization than I do now. We've hit the bottom. Which is not to say we are going to rise from the bottom any time soon.

smith288
05-18-2005, 05:18 PM
Called out on strikes...its like they dont even give a crap.

Stormy
05-18-2005, 05:18 PM
And our old friend Manny Aybar in to push in the dagger to the hilt.

Fitting, as is the fact that this afterthought reliever has a 20K-to-3BB ratio this year, whereas our $6 million "closer" boasts a 5K-to-11BB rate on the season.

Nice game for the struggling Sean Casey.

Mutaman
05-18-2005, 05:18 PM
It's time for Mr. Lindner to buy some tv time or hold a press conference and tell us good Reds fans what he intends to do about this situation.

Reds Fanatic
05-18-2005, 05:19 PM
The saddest thing is no matter how bad this gets you just know this organization will do nothing. On the day off tomorrow there should be major changes. Instead Miley will spend the day dreaming up more insane lineups, Linder will count his millions and O' Brien will go buy more binders.

Red Leader
05-18-2005, 05:19 PM
We could lose every game the rest of the year and I would't feel any worse about this organization than I do now. We've hit the bottom. Which is not to say we are going to rise from the bottom any time soon.

Yea, this organization is just like a huge anchor dragging on the bottom of the ocean floor. Hopefully there's a drop off on the ocean floor about a mile deep that will cause the anchor to drop and yank the ship under, and sink it, for good.

Reds Fanatic
05-18-2005, 05:21 PM
The only bright spot of the day Casey just got his 5th hit to drive in a run.

Red Leader
05-18-2005, 05:22 PM
Casey 5-5 on the day. That's at least good to see.

MWM
05-18-2005, 05:23 PM
Griffey would be the tying run were it not for Graves. Although, we wouldn't be seeing Aybar either.

Red Leader
05-18-2005, 05:23 PM
I would seriously like to see Dunn hit a 600 ft homer before this game ends. Just so I know he vented some of the frustration I know he's feeling.

Roy Tucker
05-18-2005, 05:24 PM
...Linder will count his millions...
I believe it's billions with a B.

Reds Fanatic
05-18-2005, 05:24 PM
Junior homers. 10-6. Sad thing is that would have tied it before Graves blew this game open.

Stormy
05-18-2005, 05:24 PM
Way to go Griff... nice to at least take some frustration out and put up some numbers versus Aybar, to put him in his place.

flyer85
05-18-2005, 05:25 PM
Although, we wouldn't be seeing Aybar either.meaningless runs against a bad pitcher.

Puffy
05-18-2005, 05:25 PM
Yea, fantasy stats!! Now for Dunn.....

Eric_Davis
05-18-2005, 05:28 PM
How in the world can ownership/management justify Miley being employed by the REDS on this date? He has no control whatsoever of this team.

Miley might have taken them down this terrible path, but ownership/managment took them to the point of no return.

MWM
05-18-2005, 05:28 PM
Danny Graves' throw to first base in the 8th was the funniest thing I've seen this year.

Reds Fanatic
05-18-2005, 05:28 PM
Well that nightmare is over. Reds lose 10-6 to run the current losing streak to 4.

Red Leader
05-18-2005, 05:28 PM
You jinxed him, Puffy. Dunn popped out to 3rd.

In other news around the league....David Wells got completely hammered by the A's in his return to the rotation.

7 ER in 1.1 IP.

37red
05-18-2005, 05:30 PM
what happened with the throw to first?

37red
05-18-2005, 05:33 PM
MWM, what happened with the throw to first, I didn't see it? Come on, I need cheering up.

M2
05-18-2005, 05:33 PM
You jinxed him, Puffy. Dunn popped out to 3rd.

In other news around the league....David Wells got completely hammered by the A's in his return to the rotation.

7 ER in 1.1 IP.

At the local Trader Joe's there's a sign that says, "Is Wells pitching tonight? Make sure to stock up on beer!"

MWM
05-18-2005, 05:34 PM
what happened with the throw to first?

After the HR by Wright, the next hitter bounced back to Graves. Graves took his time to throw it to first and then threw it away from about 15 feet away.

Eric_Davis
05-18-2005, 05:35 PM
What a disastrous season.

Over by May 18th.

This team was not that bad.

Miley is such an idiot that he couldn't recognize before the season began that Aurilia was worthless, that Freel should start everyday, that Pena should have started every day. He is truly lacking brain cells that the rest of the human race has in their head.

Yet, his brain seems to be tied to something common with the management of this club because he wasn't fired before being allowed to tank the entire season.

Roy Tucker
05-18-2005, 05:38 PM
At the local Trader Joe's there's a sign that says, "Is Wells pitching tonight? Make sure to stock up on beer!"
Trader Joe's, home of Two Buck Chuck.

37red
05-18-2005, 05:39 PM
thanks I needed that, I think. maybe they'll put it on the sports clips. well, if the hitter doesn't take advantage of his pitching he's nice enough to help them out. it's a wonder that the batter didn't throw it back like a good fan would in chicago. I don't think any self respecting batter would accept a gift like that from the likes of graves.

Joseph
05-18-2005, 05:40 PM
I hold out some faith, based on the Marlins of a couple seasons ago, but in order for that to happen there needs to be changes and in a hurry. If the current situation continues without changes at Manager, Closer, and starting rotation then they will lose the 106 games they are on pace to lose.

Roy Tucker
05-18-2005, 05:40 PM
What a disastrous season.

Over by May 18th.

This team was not that bad.

Miley is such an idiot that he couldn't recognize before the season began that Aurilia was worthless, that Freel should start everyday, that Pena should have started every day. He is truly lacking brain cells that the rest of the human race has in their head.

Yet, his brain seems to be tied to something common with the management of this club because he wasn't fired before being allowed to tank the entire season.
Don't hold back ED, tell us how you really feel :cool:

15fan
05-18-2005, 05:41 PM
As of right now, only Kansas City has more losses (28) than the Reds.

Tampa has just as many (26), and Colorado is close behind with 25.

What's the top of the 2006 draft look like?

Mutaman
05-18-2005, 05:42 PM
What a disastrous season.

Over by May 18th.

This team was not that bad.

Miley is such an idiot that he couldn't recognize before the season began that Aurilia was worthless, that Freel should start everyday, that Pena should have started every day. He is truly lacking brain cells that the rest of the human race has in their head.

Yet, his brain seems to be tied to something common with the management of this club because he wasn't fired before being allowed to tank the entire season.

Thats what they want you to think- Lindner and his crew. Do you really think it would make one cotton picking difference if Aurilia started everyday or if Freel played from the beginning. Or who the manager is? Come on. We have a 5.70 ERA . Sparky coulnd't win with these guys. This organization is incompetent, and it starts way above Miley, like at the top.

37red
05-18-2005, 05:45 PM
did you see the update in the new york times saying British researchers have found that red increases the chances of winning, and that the researchers must not be following the Cincinnati Reds.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/18/science/18cnd-red.html?hp

corkedbat
05-18-2005, 05:47 PM
Headline and lead paragraph for an article in the NY Times:

The Color of Victory Is Red, Scientists Say

Wearing red increases the chance of victory in sports, say British researchers who clearly do not follow the Cincinnati Reds.

LOL 37Red

KronoRed
05-18-2005, 05:50 PM
Headline and lead paragraph for an article in the NY Times:

The Color of Victory Is Red, Scientists Say

Wearing red increases the chance of victory in sports, say British researchers who clearly do not follow the Cincinnati Reds.

LOL 37Red

That's just mean :laugh:

37red
05-18-2005, 05:51 PM
I wouldn't have been surprised if the Enquirer put that little spot up tomorrow, but even in the times. I wonder, does this discredit the report......... hmmmmm

M2
05-18-2005, 05:53 PM
As of right now, only Kansas City has more losses (28) than the Reds.

Tampa has just as many (26), and Colorado is close behind with 25.

What's the top of the 2006 draft look like?

Pretty good actually, there's some quality college arms coming down the pike Andrew Miller and Daniel Bard of UNC, Dallas Buck of Oregon State, Ian Kennedy of USC and Wade LeBlanc of Alabama top the list. Miller's probably the best of the bunch.

RANDY IN INDY
05-18-2005, 05:57 PM
Headline and lead paragraph for an article in the NY Times:

The Color of Victory Is Red, Scientists Say

Wearing red increases the chance of victory in sports, say British researchers who clearly do not follow the Cincinnati Reds.

LOL 37Red

Maybe they'll can the black! :beerme:

37red
05-18-2005, 06:00 PM
Soon the only color left will be black......... for the funeral of this season for the reds.

Eric_Davis
05-18-2005, 08:23 PM
Pretty good actually, there's some quality college arms coming down the pike Andrew Miller and Daniel Bard of UNC, Dallas Buck of Oregon State, Ian Kennedy of USC and Wade LeBlanc of Alabama top the list. Miller's probably the best of the bunch.

I'm probably going to go watch Dallas Buck this weekend as the Beavers play the Trojans. How about that for a headline? Make up your own. ;)

It'd be great if Kennedy was facing Buck on the same day.