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CincyRedsFan30
05-21-2005, 07:02 PM
Lineups:

Indians:
Sizemore CF
Blake RF
Broussard 1B
Martinez C
Gerut LF
Boone 3B
Cora 2B
Peralta SS
Sabathia P

Reds:
Lopez SS
Bergolla 2B
Casey 1B
Griffey CF
Dunn LF
Randa 3B
Kearns RF
Valentin C
Ramirez P

SirFelixCat
05-21-2005, 07:04 PM
2 runs yesterday...let's not shake it up and try for, oh, I don't know...more?


*sigh*...glad I'm playing poker tonight.

Regardless of Miley, Go Reds!

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 07:16 PM
No Freel again?

Bergolla is taking Aurilias spot..when Rich is ready..he's back and batting 2nd.

LvJ
05-21-2005, 07:34 PM
I highly doubt Aurilia will start over Lopez and Freel. It's not going to happen. I have more faith in Miley than that. Freel right now has a back problem, so it's cool to see Willy get some starts while he can. The lineup is fine, or expected, but I'd move Kearns to the 2 spot and Dunn to the 3 spot. Other than that.. lets make it two in a row with another good outing for Ramirez, please.

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 07:37 PM
No Freel again?

Bergolla is taking Aurilias spot..when Rich is ready..he's back and batting 2nd.

Freel's back is hurting him....probably a muscle strain

westofyou
05-21-2005, 07:39 PM
Bergolla is taking Aurilias spot..when Rich is ready..he's back and batting 2nd.
Doubtful, Lopez has shown what younger age can give you at SS, I don't expect regression to be the final goal of the team.

LvJ
05-21-2005, 07:45 PM
Harang sounds like my kind of guy. :dancingco

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 08:00 PM
Freel's back is hurting him....probably a muscle strain

I think he hurt it sliding into 2B Tuesday night.

Raisor
05-21-2005, 08:06 PM
I don't expect regression to be the final goal of the team.

We are talking about the same team, right?

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:09 PM
Doubtful, Lopez has shown what younger age can give you at SS, I don't expect regression to be the final goal of the team.

Lopez will stay, bat lead off and play 2nd

Aurilia is SOLID..remember? ;)

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:14 PM
Lizard K's the first batter

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:16 PM
Casey Blake lines out to Randa

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:17 PM
Bender doubles off the wall.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:17 PM
Who's that guy on with Grande?

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 08:18 PM
-Sizemore K's on a 3-2 pitch
-Blake lined out to Randa
-Broussard doubles to left
-Vic Martinez singles in Broussard, 1-0 Indians
-Gerut K's looking

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 08:18 PM
Who's that guy on with Grande?

Dan Hoard

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:18 PM
Victor Martinez singles, Broussard scores. still 2 out.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:18 PM
Dan Hoard

Gracias!

TeamCasey
05-21-2005, 08:18 PM
Dan Hoard

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:19 PM
Coco Crisp jokes ;)

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:20 PM
Gerrut K's

Raisor
05-21-2005, 08:20 PM
Milton, 0 HR in 0 IP

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:21 PM
Sportsline finall realized the game was on... grr. I am used to them, not espn or mlb's version.

i hate change.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:22 PM
Hefty Lefty?

Well..at least Hoards stuff is fresh ;)

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:23 PM
Sabbathia is only 24? seems like he's been around forever.

BoydsOfSummer
05-21-2005, 08:24 PM
Now if we could just get Hoard to replace Grande.

LvJ
05-21-2005, 08:24 PM
Nice hittin' Willy.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:25 PM
FeLo K's, Bergolla singles.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 08:25 PM
Hey Hey! Bergolla with a single.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:26 PM
Casey single instead of GIDP.

nice to break things up Sean.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:26 PM
Sabbathia is only 24? seems like he's been around forever.

He came up when he was 20 or 21 I think.

TeamCasey
05-21-2005, 08:27 PM
Someone should sticky the game thread on the Reds Live side. I noticed that last night too.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:27 PM
heh. sportsline has junior batting righty.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:29 PM
Griff singles, Bergolla scores.

1-1 woo hoo!

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 08:30 PM
heh. sportsline has junior batting righty.

He was hitting righty in that AB. He's trying his hand at switch hitting tonight. :evil:

Larkin411
05-21-2005, 08:32 PM
Now if we could just get Hoard to replace Grande.

I can't help liking George. He has a nice even-keel thing going on that makes all the Reds seasons seem like they fall into the "this too shall pass" category. Of course then the game ends and I decide that really the Reds will be awful forever and ever, or at least the next 5 years which feels like forever:).

Plus he doesn't think he's the arbiter of everyone's worthiness like Marty.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:32 PM
Dunn GIDP.

knotted at 1 after 1.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:33 PM
I dunno about anyone else..I would have preferred he strike out there ;)

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 08:34 PM
Dunn grounds into a Casey. His first of the year.

Sad thing is, some folks would rather see a DP there then a K.

LvJ
05-21-2005, 08:34 PM
Junior!!!!!!!

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 08:35 PM
NICE catch by Griff!

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:35 PM
NICE PLAY JR! :clap:

DoogMinAmo
05-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Did anyone else notice the 18-3 game in Texas. Wow, talk about a football state. Hopefully the Indians won't get past the extra point tonight :thumbup:

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:35 PM
AB flies out to junior.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Nice over the shoulder catch by Griff!

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Booney hasn't changed a bit. first pitch swinging.

LvJ
05-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Did anyone else notice the 18-3 game in Texas. Wow, talk about a football state. Hopefully the Indians won't get past the extra point tonight :thumbup: Atleast 20 HR's in that game.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:36 PM
Ugh. lizard gets boone on one pitch then hits Cora

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:36 PM
Did anyone else notice the 18-3 game in Texas. Wow, talk about a football state. Hopefully the Indians won't get past the extra point tonight :thumbup:
Ezequiel Astacio 1.2 pitched 9 hits 9 earned runs :help:

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:37 PM
Yes! double play!

LvJ
05-21-2005, 08:37 PM
Some GREAT D this inning!

Willy and Griff!

DoogMinAmo
05-21-2005, 08:37 PM
Atleast 20 HR's in that game.

8 by Texas and 2 by Houston, just RIDICULOUS.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:38 PM
Dp! 5-4-3!

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 08:38 PM
Bergolla standing in to make the turn. Nice!

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:38 PM
Bergolla apparently turned the DP well with the runner bearing down hard. Good to know.

DoogMinAmo
05-21-2005, 08:40 PM
Bergolla standing in to make the turn. Nice!

For those watching, and just to be a bit of a :evil: , could or would D'lo have made the same play?

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:40 PM
man i love free internet broadcasts... :)

LvJ
05-21-2005, 08:40 PM
:bowrofl: Holycrap, Willy does look young.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:41 PM
Hey! i just noticed someone gave me rep points.

I'll have none of that.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:41 PM
Dribbler to Broussard and Randa is retired.

1 out.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 08:42 PM
For those watching, and just to be a bit of a :evil: , could or would D'lo have made the same play?

IMO, yes he woud have.

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 08:42 PM
man i love free internet broadcasts... :)

You have a link to that? :)

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:43 PM
Kearns singles to center, line drive.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:44 PM
shhh! wkki.net.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:44 PM
Valentin flies out to center.

2 outs.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 08:44 PM
Bergolla apparently turned the DP well with the runner bearing down hard. Good to know.

As a side note, it looked like Randa had a bit of trouble getting the ball out of his glove to start the 6-4-3.

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 08:46 PM
shhh! wkki.net.

Thanks! :)

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:47 PM
The Lizard with a 6 pitch AB K's swinging.

Sabbathia sounds real hittable today 2 IP 4 hits 39 pitches.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:48 PM
hey, i just passed 3,500 posts.

now do i get a jacket or something?

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 08:48 PM
hey, i just passed 3,500 posts.

now do i get a jacket or something?

It's in the mail :D

paintmered
05-21-2005, 08:49 PM
hey, i just passed 3,500 posts.

now do i get a jacket or something?

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TRF
05-21-2005, 08:50 PM
CC flies out to Dunn.

1 down.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:51 PM
http://emissions.sludgefaktory.com/images/straight%20jacket%20basix.jpg


pheh. got two of those.. one in red, one in white.

liner to Bergolla, two out.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Casey Blake singles to left.

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:55 PM
BB grounds out to second.

Lizard has started with a first pitch strike on all but three batter he has face. maybe 4.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 08:55 PM
Does anyone else think the cavemen in the Geico commercials are just a tad too sensitive?

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:57 PM
That's 8 first pitch strike to four balls.

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 08:57 PM
That's 8 first pitch strike to four balls.

And 0 pitch to contact first pitches ;)

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:58 PM
FeLo singles.

I swear if RA ever gets another start at SS...

Raisor
05-21-2005, 08:58 PM
Does anyone else think the cavemen in the Geico commercials are just a tad too sensitive?

One of them should hook up with the McDonalds McGriddle Girl.

I'll just have to live my life through the caveman.

TeamCasey
05-21-2005, 08:58 PM
Bergolla .... Hey! That should be a spaghetti sauce!

TRF
05-21-2005, 08:58 PM
And 0 pitch to contact first pitches ;)

Well technically AB did fly out on the first pitch, but it was a strike that he hit.

DoogMinAmo
05-21-2005, 08:59 PM
I have been gone for a month, and there are only a few things I am keen on... the pitching with the exception of Harang, and apparently the Lizard, has been horrible, D'lo is gone, and Felo is flat out raking it right now.

Anything else I should know?

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 08:59 PM
Yay! Bunting...uhhhhhhhhh (That makes it 1-for-8 for May. I'm counting)

BTW...anyone hear Lopez' response to that interview question they played during his AB?

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 09:00 PM
Lopez is 5-9(2B, 4 1B) in his career vs Sabathia.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:01 PM
Bergolla hits into the FC at second, nobody covers first.

1 out Casey up.

I think CC will be at 60 pitches soon.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 09:01 PM
Indians look like us out there :lol:

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 09:01 PM
Casey RBI double! Advances to 3rd on the throw.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:01 PM
Casey doubles and advances to third on the throw. Bergolla scores!

Reds 2-1! woo hoo!

TeamCasey
05-21-2005, 09:02 PM
Casey sucks. They should trade him. ;)

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 09:02 PM
Bergolla to be sent down after this inning for not sliding.

News at 11.

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 09:03 PM
Yay! Bunting...uhhhhhhhhh (That makes it 1-for-8 for May. I'm counting)

BTW...anyone hear Lopez' response to that interview question they played during his AB?

Nope, what did he say?

Griffey groundout scores Casey.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:03 PM
Griff GO, but plates Casey. Reds lead 3-1!

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 09:03 PM
I have been gone for a month, and there are only a few things I am keen on... the pitching with the exception of Harang, and apparently the Lizard, has been horrible, D'lo is gone, and Felo is flat out raking it right now.

Anything else I should know?

Danny Graves got 4 outs last night in a 1 run game, and didn't blow it.




I was stunned too!

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 09:05 PM
Nope, what did he say?

Can't remember the exact words, but the interviewer positioned a question about him performing recently. Lopez responded with something akin to, "I've been performing since spring training." Actually appeared to look annoyed at the question's inference.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:07 PM
Dunn grounds out, Sabbathia now at 59 pitches in just three innings of play.

For as many pitches as he has thrown though, the reds should be tagging for a few more runs before chasing him from the mound.

Lizard seems to lose focus after getting ahead of hitters quickly. I hope he grows out of that.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:09 PM
One of them should hook up with the McDonalds McGriddle Girl.

I'll just have to live my life through the caveman.

It's better to live vicariously than not live at all.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:09 PM
Martinez K's. Another first pitch strike.

hello Milton, Wilson et al... anyone watching?

westofyou
05-21-2005, 09:09 PM
Sabbathia now at 59 pitches in just three innings of play.
25% of those have been against Dunn.

DoogMinAmo
05-21-2005, 09:09 PM
Dunn grounds out, Sabbathia now at 59 pitches in just three innings of play.

For as many pitches as he has thrown though, the reds should be tagging for a few more runs before chasing him from the mound.

Lizard seems to lose focus after getting ahead of hitters quickly. I hope he grows out of that.

MLB Gameday has CC at 62 after 3 innings. Agreed about the runs thing, I have a gut feeling before the end of the fifth, they will score at least 3 more.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:10 PM
Gerut singles to right.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:11 PM
The lizard hits Booney.

again, some things never change. dude is a human target.

BCubb2003
05-21-2005, 09:11 PM
I have been gone for a month, and there are only a few things I am keen on... the pitching with the exception of Harang, and apparently the Lizard, has been horrible, D'lo is gone, and Felo is flat out raking it right now.

Anything else I should know?

Dunn still doesn't have a sac fly and Milton hasn't given up a homer in a couple of days, Graves got a save by striking out some guys but he still feels small, Wagner is struggling, Freel is hurting, Wilson is pushed back but not far enough, Bergolla looks like he's 11 years old, Randa has taken control of the team, Ortiz might amount to something, Miley is disgusted, the team is embarrassed, Gullett is still the pitching coach, we're all Spartacus, that's baseball says Lindner, in other words -- status quo.

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 09:12 PM
Boone HBP. The Reds have hit four Indian batters in 10 innings. Harang hit two last night.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:12 PM
Cora flies out to Dunn. 2 outs.

westofyou
05-21-2005, 09:13 PM
http://www.statusquo.co.uk/images/xs/images/cov1_01.jpg

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:13 PM
Bergolla to be sent down after this inning for not sliding.

News at 11.

Noticed that did ya'? :)

What was up with him touching the plate with his hand? For some reason I can't explain, I like the kid, but that was just odd.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 09:13 PM
Boone HBP. The Reds have hit four Indian batters in 10 innings. Harang hit two last night.

How long before CC starts beaning Reds?

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:14 PM
WP runners advance.

does doing the PBP always feel like talking to yourself?

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:15 PM
Grrrr...

2 run single for Peralta. Tie game.

DoogMinAmo
05-21-2005, 09:15 PM
Dunn still doesn't have a sac fly and Milton hasn't given up a homer in a couple of days, Graves got a save by striking out some guys but he still feels small, Wagner is struggling, Freel is hurting, Wilson is pushed back but not far enough, Bergolla looks like he's 11 years old, Randa has taken control of the team, Ortiz might amount to something, Miley is disgusted, the team is embarrassed, Gullett is still the pitching coach, we're all Spartacus, that's baseball says Lindner, in other words -- status quo.

:thumbup:

So, to paraphrase, we are a Graves, Wilson, Milton, and half an Ortiz away from being a much better team?

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 09:15 PM
How long before CC starts beaning Reds?

Cliff Lee will retaliate tomorrow. He's the guy that beaned Griffey last year in Cleveland.

Tie game.

Falls City Beer
05-21-2005, 09:16 PM
Welcome to the fold, Lizard. You're not a man till you cough up a lead to Judy-hitting outfit.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 09:16 PM
Aww crap :(

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 09:16 PM
Sabathia homers. :laugh:

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:17 PM
aw crap.

Sabbathia homers.

kill me.

DoogMinAmo
05-21-2005, 09:17 PM
You have got to be kidding me. CC homers to center, 5-3 Indians.

westofyou
05-21-2005, 09:17 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you......... PHYSICS!!!

Falls City Beer
05-21-2005, 09:17 PM
Scratch another name off the list.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 09:18 PM
Pitching to contact! Allright! ;)

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:18 PM
i'm taking a break for food.

someone else wanna do PBP?

ws1990reds
05-21-2005, 09:19 PM
"Pitching to contact" has definitely become a concept that pitchers in the Reds organization had gotten a solid grasp on. :rolleyes: Oh well, have fun in the minors, Ramirez. :thumbup:

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 09:20 PM
i'm taking a break for food.

someone else wanna do PBP?

Can you bring me some food?

CincyRedsFan30
05-21-2005, 09:21 PM
Ramirez has nice action on his pitches, but he did several things there that you just can't do, such as hititng the weak-hitting Boone, serving up wild pitches and HR to pitchers. No can do.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:21 PM
Can you bring me some food?

it's a 1300 mile drive, but sure. do you like texas chili?

TeamCasey
05-21-2005, 09:23 PM
do you like texas chili?

Is there any other kind? :devil: ;)

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 09:23 PM
it's a 1300 mile drive, but sure. do you like texas chili?

Sounds good to me!!

:p:

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:24 PM
it's a 1300 mile drive, but sure. do you like texas chili?

Sure, I'll take some since your headed this way and don't worry about the PBP, we'll stop the game untill you get back. :)

TeamCasey
05-21-2005, 09:24 PM
Trip for Austin. Cool! :)

Kc61
05-21-2005, 09:24 PM
[QUOTE=KronoRed]Pitching to contact! Allright! ;)[/QUOTE

Seriously, I'm not watching, but I'll bet Lizard was afraid to walk the pitcher. It would violate "pitch to contact." Walks are bad, but you can't be afraid to walk guys, or you'll wind up grooving pitches.

TeamCasey
05-21-2005, 09:24 PM
Calling it a double and an error.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:27 PM
What in the world was that? Showing bunt with two outs?

PuffyPig
05-21-2005, 09:30 PM
What in the world was that? Showing bunt with two outs?

Ramirez has done that in every AB this season. He's takes the first pitch but shows the bunt.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:30 PM
The Lizard is thrown out at first on strike three. Scored still tied.

CincyRedsFan30
05-21-2005, 09:30 PM
Valentin has some of the worst AB for a non-pitcher that I've ever seen. Ugly.

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 09:32 PM
Ramirez has done that in every AB this season. He's takes the first pitch but shows the bunt.

Maybe Mark Berry's signs aren't in Spanish

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:33 PM
Blake grounds out 6-3.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:35 PM
Broussard singles on a 2-2 count.

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 09:35 PM
If you're not listening to the TV broadcast, you're really missing out on some of the straight-up dumbest things George Grande has ever said.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:36 PM
Two away as Martinez flys out to Dunn.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:37 PM
If you're not listening to the TV broadcast, you're really missing out on some of the straight-up dumbest things George Grande has ever said.

radio for me... please share.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:39 PM
Gerut grounds sharply to Casey who makes the third out unassisted. Heading to the bottom of the 5th, score still 5 - 3. OOps.

Lopez, Bergolla, and Casey due up. I think.

Edit: Can't even get the score right. :redface:

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:39 PM
If you're not listening to the TV broadcast, you're really missing out on some of the straight-up dumbest things George Grande has ever said.

Indians announcers on mlb.tv. for me.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:41 PM
Lopez grounds out 5 - 3.

Hurry back TRF. :)

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 09:41 PM
radio for me... please share.

Ok...you asked for it...

"When a big hitter is out of the lineup, it's not the performance that's missed- it's their presence. Like when Ken Griffey Jr. is in the lineup, Eric Wedge knows it and when Juan Gonzalez is in the Indians lineup, Dave Miley knows it."

There was no follow-up to this. At least no follow-up that could be understood by humans.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:42 PM
still shoving food in my mouth..

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:43 PM
Ok...you asked for it...

"When a big hitter is out of the lineup, it's not the performance that's missed- it's their presence. Like when Ken Griffey Jr. is in the lineup, Eric Wedge knows it and when Juan Gonzalez is in the Indians lineup, Dave Miley knows it."

There was no follow-up to this. At least no follow-up that could be understood by humans.

wow. i mean.... wow.

the performance is the presence you dolt!

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 09:43 PM
still shoving food in my mouth..

Just ate a gyro myself. Greeks were genius.

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 09:44 PM
wow. i mean.... wow.

the performance is the presence you dolt!

He then went on to say that the Indians lineup is built around Juan Gonzalez.

I can't make that stuff up.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:45 PM
grilled burger for me. my wife is a genius.

Chili tomorrow.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:45 PM
and.... i'm back.

WVRedsFan
05-21-2005, 09:46 PM
I'm enjoying Dan Hoard, though. When he gets the chance to speak. I really don't miss Chris. Put him and George together and you get a non-stop taling spree.

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 09:47 PM
Grande just called Bob Boone a "brilliant baseball mind". It's like I get a comedy show AND a baseball game all in one. That's REAL VALUE, folks!

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:47 PM
AB lines out to Bergolla. 1 out.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:48 PM
Peralta grounds out to Casey. 2 out.

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 09:48 PM
I'm enjoying Dan Hoard, though. When he gets the chance to speak. I really don't miss Chris. Put him and George together and you get a non-stop taling spree.

Yeah. Hoard is actually good and, IMO, was having a difficult time following Grande's line of thinking on the "big hitter presence" thing. It was almost like he was trying to avoid saying anything rational- thereby making Grande look stupid.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:49 PM
Gotta say, despite the little blow up, I have been impressed with Ramirez.

whoops. Cora GO to Case, Peralta GO to Randa.

Falls City Beer
05-21-2005, 09:50 PM
Gotta say, despite the little blow up, I have been impressed with Ramirez.

whoops. Cora GO to Case, Peralta GO to Randa.

He gives up long flies. Loses concentration. No out pitch. He's a keeper. ;)

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:51 PM
Back to Ramirez a moment. Yes he's given up 5 runs but overall despite that one inning he has pitched economically, with a ton of first pitch strikes. The runs I attribute to youth. And he'll mature. His first inning after those runs scored he sttled down right away.

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 09:51 PM
Grande just called Bob Boone a "brilliant baseball mind".

He probably thinks Bucky Showalter doesn't over-manage too...or Dusty Baker knows how to use a pitcher

TeamCasey
05-21-2005, 09:52 PM
Went to a pig roast today. Dinner was a brownie.

Proceeds to fight a waste water plant in a tiny community on a gorgeous river. It was worth the cholesterol.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:52 PM
and.... i'm back.

Well, I tried bit now I'm laughing at the Grandeisms and can hardly type.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:53 PM
Griff grounds out, Dunn K's

2 outs.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:54 PM
Randa K's swinging.

Raisor
05-21-2005, 09:55 PM
Just ate a gyro myself. Greeks were genius.


there used to be a place near me, run by a nice Japanese family, that had THE best gyros on the planet. Not a big lamb eater, but those Steak/cheese gyro with extra greek sauce were to DIE for. Maybe it was the slight almuninium taste from the wrapings or something.

They also had great wings too.

I think the health department shut them down, but I didn't die, so it's all good.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:57 PM
This is likely elizardo's last inning as he is due up 3rd. 83 pitches through 6 ip and one bad inning.

I hope he gets another start.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:58 PM
CC grounds out to Casey.

1 down.

TRF
05-21-2005, 09:58 PM
Sizemore also grounds to Casey.

two outs.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:58 PM
Of the last five HR's hit by Indians pitchers, 3 have come off Reds pitching.

Sabbathia, Burba, and ? didn't catch the other one.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 09:59 PM
Claussen was warming up in the pen earlier.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 10:01 PM
He gives up long flies. Loses concentration. No out pitch. He's a keeper. ;)

Around here he is ;)

Falls City Beer
05-21-2005, 10:02 PM
Claussen was warming up in the pen earlier.

Dumb. The guy has one bad outing all season and he's in the pen, while Milton, Wilson, and Ortiz stink for the carrion birds.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:02 PM
Casey Blake just misses and flies out to Dunn.

3 up, 3 down.

If this was his final inning, and i believe it was, Ramirez leave with 7.0 ip, 5 er 0 BB, but two hit batsmen, one of which scored, 3 K's with 93 pitches. He threw a lot of first pitch strikes, and generally kept Cleveland off balance. except for 1 inning.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:02 PM
Bob Howry in for Cleveland.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:04 PM
Kearns K's

1 out.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:07 PM
Pornstache singles to right. likely see a pich hitter for the lizard. in fact it's Luis Lopez.

might as well keep the lizard in.

Falls City Beer
05-21-2005, 10:07 PM
Luis Lopez looks like a rabbit.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:07 PM
Luis Lopez looks like a rabbit.

hits like a mouse.

Raisor
05-21-2005, 10:08 PM
Was Juan Castro brought back?

oh, wait, it's Lopez

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 10:09 PM
Luis Lopez has a routine after each pitch that would make Casey proud

Raisor
05-21-2005, 10:09 PM
Listening to Grande, sounds like he wants the all "good guy" team.

Me, I don't mind having black hats around, as long as they can play.

Raisor
05-21-2005, 10:10 PM
I swear, I'm going to Elvis my TV before the year is gone. A year of listening to Grande will send me to the nuthouse.

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 10:10 PM
George Grande is now attempting to spin away that Luis Lopez isn't below-replacement-level fodder.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:11 PM
the mouse fouls out.

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Luis Lopez wearing #15.

He should never be allowed to wear a number that Foster wore. Save that for someone who actually deserves to wear it.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Lopez 2 up.

Raisor
05-21-2005, 10:12 PM
George Grande is now attempting to spin away that Luis Lopez isn't below-replacement-level fodder.


Was Luis Lopez ever a Cardinal? That would explain it, right?

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 10:15 PM
F.Lopez fouled off ball 4 there

Just sayin.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 10:15 PM
Dumb. The guy has one bad outing all season and he's in the pen, while Milton, Wilson, and Ortiz stink for the carrion birds.

Maybe, but he's been lucky. I mean, just how many flyball pitchers can the Reds acquire for the rotation? I'm waiting for Harang to come down to earth and I'm afraid it won't be pleasant when he does.

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 10:15 PM
Felipe made an out but that was a great atbat.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:15 PM
FeLo grounds out to first in a nine pitch AB.

Raisor
05-21-2005, 10:16 PM
The "I'm bored, so I spent five minutes looking up the numbers" stats of the day:

Going into tonight, the Reds have averaged 6.67 Runs/Game in wins, and 3.87 R/Game in losses.

The pitching have allowed 3.27 r/game in wins and 6.96 runs/game in losses.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:17 PM
Merker in to pitch.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 10:18 PM
Felipe made an out but that was a great atbat.

Nice play by Broussard ranging behind the bag. Could have easily been a hit, I thought.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:19 PM
The "I'm bored, so I spent five minutes looking up the numbers" stats of the day:

Going into tonight, the Reds have averaged 6.67 Runs/Game in wins, and 3.87 R/Game in losses.

The pitching have allowed 3.27 r/game in wins and 6.96 runs/game in losses.

so, when they hit and pitch well they win?

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:19 PM
Broussard GO to Bergolla. 1 down.

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 10:20 PM
Kyle Davis has thrown 5 shutout innings tonight(4 hits, 5 K's) in his major league debut at Boston. Braves winning 6-0.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:21 PM
Martinez flies out to Kearns. 2 outs.

ws1990reds
05-21-2005, 10:22 PM
I'm still seething over Felipe jogging to first on the grounder that was fielded far behind the first base bag. He could have had an infield single on that one. If they would just do the small things, they'd be better than a last-place team. :bang:

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:23 PM
Gerut grounds out to Bergolla to end the inning.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:26 PM
Bergolla flies out to Blake. 1 down.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:28 PM
Arthur Rhodes in to pitch.

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 10:30 PM
Kyle Davis has thrown 5 shutout innings tonight(4 hits, 5 K's) in his major league debut at Boston. Braves winning 6-0.

Should have gone after Davies with any of Kearns, Pena, or Casey (plus).

Oh well.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:30 PM
Casey singles to left.

i think Mister Casey is starting to return to form.

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 10:30 PM
I thought Sauerbeck would come on. Casey/Griffey/Dunn are on a combined 6-40 with 4 walks vs Sauerbeck.

Instead it's Rhodes, Griffey has a 1.037 OPS against him..Casey now 2-2..Dunn 0-1

OnBaseMachine
05-21-2005, 10:31 PM
Should have gone after Davies with any of Kearns, Pena, or Casey (plus).

Oh well.

Yep. It would be nice to have a starter that can K someone eh?

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:32 PM
Junior K's looking. 2 down.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 10:33 PM
If they would just do the small things, they'd be better than a last-place team. :bang:

The little things won't help a pitching staff whose league ranks in ERA is 15th, whose L.R. in OPS against is dead last, whose L.R. in WHIP is 15th, whose, well you get the picture.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 10:33 PM
I don't like this ump.

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 10:34 PM
Yep. It would be nice to have a starter that can K someone eh?

Out pitches are good.

ws1990reds
05-21-2005, 10:34 PM
Why do they INSIST on standing there and taking pitches with two strikes? Pathetic. Does this team even care? :angry:

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:34 PM
Dunn K's looking. and we go to the ninth.

Marty bashing Kearns and WMP, while ignoring the incredible life sucking play of Rich Aurillia.

Reds Fanatic
05-21-2005, 10:35 PM
Wagner coming in to pitch the 9th

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Dunn K's looking. and we go to the ninth.

Marty bashing Kearns and WMP, while ignoring the incredible life sucking play of Rich Aurillia.

WMP and Aurilia are playing?

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Wagner in to pitch the ninth. hope he's over last night's difficulties.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:37 PM
Booney K's. 1 out.

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 10:38 PM
And Aaron Boone throws a very audible F-bomb from the dugout.

He stinks right now. But hey, he cares. So I guess that's something?

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 10:39 PM
WMP and Aurilia are playing?

No. But it's been determined that Rich Aurilia can suck the life from an offense from the DL as well.

He's scrappy that way.;)

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 10:40 PM
No. But it's been determined that Rich Aurilia can suck the life from an offense from the DL as well.

He's scrappy that way.;)

Now that's talent!

ws1990reds
05-21-2005, 10:40 PM
Dunn and Griffey don't communicate, and a catchable ball drops right there between them. What this team needs is a new manager. :angry:

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:40 PM
Miscommunication between Junior and Dunn. Double for Cora, but Junior's hammy appears fine. :)

I prefer the flub to junior slamming into Dunn.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:42 PM
Peralta grounds out to FeLo... Cora does not advance. 2 outs.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:43 PM
Belliard grounds out to FeLO to end the inning.

last chance folks.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 10:44 PM
No. But it's been determined that Rich Aurilia can suck the life from an offense from the DL as well.

He's scrappy that way.;)

Rich Aurilia >




http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/images/HSTngc4261.gif

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:45 PM
Wickman in to blow the save... :)

SteelSD
05-21-2005, 10:46 PM
FYI-

After last night's game, Felipe Lopez' Zone Rating at SS was .881.

That would rank fifth among all MLB Shortstops.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:47 PM
Randa grounds out to Boone.

1 down.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:51 PM
Kearns grounds out to Boone. 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
05-21-2005, 10:54 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, THAT was a closer.....that is what a closer is supposed to do consistantly.

Unfortunately the Reds closer walks a fine line between totally sucking, and getting the job done.

TRF
05-21-2005, 10:55 PM
Valentin ends it with a fly to right.

i'm never doing PBP again.... i'm bad luck.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 10:55 PM
You'll get em next time TRF ;)

Falls City Beer
05-21-2005, 10:55 PM
Boy, sure glad Jimenez is gone. They sure went all out there without the bad influence.

RBA
05-21-2005, 10:56 PM
Is it common for the losing manager to run into the clubhouse after the game? I always thought they come out and shake the other manager's hand.

The way Miley took off, he either had to go to the bathroom or he was going to clean out his office.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 10:56 PM
Valentin ends it with a fly to right.

i'm never doing PBP again.... i'm bad luck.

Nah, you did a good job tonight. PBP isn't as easy as it looks. I proved that. ;)

TRF
05-21-2005, 11:00 PM
awright, who keeps giving me rep points? i need negative rep points for PBP when they lose.

Seriously, it was kinda fun. Maybe I'll try again next week.

CincyRedsFan30
05-21-2005, 11:01 PM
The way Miley took off, he either had to go to the bathroom or he was going to clean out his office.

:laugh:

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 11:03 PM
awright, who keeps giving me rep points? i need negative rep points for PBP when they lose.

Seriously, it was kinda fun. Maybe I'll try again next week.

Don't say that, your rep will get so low that you get kicked off the board.

Reds Nd2
05-21-2005, 11:08 PM
FWIW, the Reds need to finish the season 66 - 54 to end up at .500 for '05.

flyer85
05-21-2005, 11:10 PM
It is almost a nightly occurrence that whoever the best PH the Reds have ends up not being used because Miley is saving him for a situation that never comes to pass.

traderumor
05-21-2005, 11:37 PM
FYI-

After last night's game, Felipe Lopez' Zone Rating at SS was .881.

That would rank fifth among all MLB Shortstops.I am also impressed with Felipe's ever increasing ability to stay alive at the plate.

traderumor
05-21-2005, 11:39 PM
I don't recall hearing anything, but why hasn't LaRue been playing? Is he hurt?

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 11:50 PM
No idea on LaRue, funny..I thought he was about to start heating up

TRF
05-21-2005, 11:55 PM
at his current rate FeLo had he been playing SS full time, would be second in the NL in OPS.

I loathe the Rich Aurillia signing.

KronoRed
05-21-2005, 11:56 PM
Just wait till he comes off the DL.

traderumor
05-22-2005, 12:22 AM
No idea on LaRue, funny..I thought he was about to start heating upHe must be on the latest "asset devaluation" list. I was hoping I'd hear he had a nagging injury, not that they were playing Valentin on purpose. The stupidity grows daily, like mold on leftovers.

cReds1
05-22-2005, 12:00 PM
Boy, sure glad Jimenez is gone. They sure went all out there without the bad influence.

Yea, that RAH, RAH speech did wonders too. :evil:

Also, i just saw the power rankings in the paper this morning and not by a surprise, but we are next to last. It said something about bring on the cowbells.