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medford
05-24-2005, 06:19 PM
Per Segman,

Same as yesterday, but insert Louis Lopez into second (batting 8th) for Bergolla

3B Freel
SS Felo
1B Casey
CF Griff
LF Dunn
RF Kearns
C Fe Fe Larue
2B Louis Lopez
P Claussen

Anyone else think that Bergolla looked awfully overmatched last night. Its the first time I saw him at bat this year. Looks like he needs a full year down in AAA. Hopefully its just one game, I was hoping to see a little more out of him than a bunch of whiffs, and a gift infield single. Perhaps a couple of solid outs, or at least ground balls.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 06:22 PM
Per Segman,

Same as yesterday, but insert Louis Lopez into second (batting 8th) for Bergolla

3B Freel
SS Felo
1B Casey
CF Griff
LF Dunn
RF Kearns
C Fe Fe Larue
2B Louis Lopez
P Claussen

Anyone else think that Bergolla looked awfully overmatched last night. Its the first time I saw him at bat this year. Looks like he needs a full year down in AAA. Hopefully its just one game, I was hoping to see a little more out of him than a bunch of whiffs, and a gift infield single. Perhaps a couple of solid outs, or at least ground balls.

He looked good defensively

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 06:26 PM
No Randa again..hmm....

Bergolla needs time in AAA....soon.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 06:28 PM
go kearns!

oneupper
05-24-2005, 06:28 PM
No Randa again..hmm....

Bergolla needs time in AAA....soon.


Randa has something with his foot/ankle.

SirFelixCat
05-24-2005, 06:33 PM
Randa has something with his foot/ankle.

They said last night on the broadcast (GB TiVo) that his ankle was hurt...nothing serious, I guess, just banged up.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 06:34 PM
I enjoy this lineup a heck of a lot more than previous Miley creations, but I'd still like to see a split somewhere between that Casey/Griffey/Dunn combo. The Mets sure figured it out with Koo in their series with the Reds, and we saw how bad those 3 looked against Scott Sauerbeck the other night.

It just screams "easy inning" for a team with a solid lefty specialist. I don't really understand WHY, exactly, but it always seems that way. A Mike Gonzalez/Ray King/Koo/Chris Hammond/Matt Perisho type and that L-L-L sequence is 90% sure to go down for the count.

Upon Pena's return, it should be a little easier to slot a power RH hitter in between those 3.

cumberlandreds
05-24-2005, 06:41 PM
The Nats don't have a lefty in their bullpen at this time or on their 25 man roster in fact. So we should have an advantage with all out lefty hitters.

oneupper
05-24-2005, 06:52 PM
Anyone else think that Bergolla looked awfully overmatched last night. Its the first time I saw him at bat this year. Looks like he needs a full year down in AAA. Hopefully its just one game, I was hoping to see a little more out of him than a bunch of whiffs, and a gift infield single. Perhaps a couple of solid outs, or at least ground balls.

Yeah, but Felipe looked absolutely AWFUL last year when he came up the first time.

It's good that Bergolla can see some ML pitching without it costing us too much. Then he can go back to AAA with a better idea of what he has to work on to stick up in the bigs.

RedsIn07
05-24-2005, 06:53 PM
All four of the hits Griffey has of Hernandez are homers.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 06:54 PM
Claussen could be next on the chopping block. DanO is in a decadent mood right now. All players who were part of the past regime or aquired in the 03 trades should be held on notice. Wonder why the Lizard got the call over Steve Kelly? Why was DanO so gunhoe to get rid of Moseley?

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:10 PM
Wilkerson flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Carroll singles.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:15 PM
Johnson walks.

:/

Petitt33
05-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Claussen already struggling. :(

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Guillen pops out. 2 outs.

Petitt33
05-24-2005, 07:17 PM
Guillen pops out to Casey.

2 down. Runners on 1st and 2nd.

jfar23
05-24-2005, 07:17 PM
Claussen throws so many pitches. I think they should move him to the pen.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:19 PM
Castilla doubles, 1 run scores.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:20 PM
Claussen really needs to learn how to throw strikes.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:21 PM
Church strikes out. 3 outs.

1-0 Nationals.

Petitt33
05-24-2005, 07:21 PM
Church K's

3 down

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 07:22 PM
Claussen really needs to learn how to throw strikes.

That isn't his problem. Both Carroll and Johnson were down two strikes, but he allowed both to get on board afterwords.

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2005, 07:22 PM
He just cannot put people away. He has to learn really good command in order to compensate for no out pitch.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:24 PM
That isn't his problem. Both Carroll and Johnson were down two strikes, but he allowed both to get on board afterwords.

He made 27 pitches in the 1st inning, 13 of them were balls.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:25 PM
Freel singles.

Petitt33
05-24-2005, 07:25 PM
Freel singles to right

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:25 PM
Freel caught stealing. 1 out.

:/

Petitt33
05-24-2005, 07:25 PM
Freel CS at 2nd.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 07:26 PM
He made 27 pitches in the 1st inning, 13 of them were balls.

Most of those balls came after 2 strikes. He wasn't inducing a K(except to Church) or ground/fly outs.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:27 PM
Lopez walks.

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2005, 07:29 PM
I don't understand the point of trying to steal second in the first inning with no one out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:31 PM
Casey walks.

Buckeye33
05-24-2005, 07:32 PM
I don't understand the point of trying to steal second in the first inning with no one out.

I would have to guess that Freel has the green light at anytime, and he felt he could gte a good jump off Livan, just didn't happen to work out.

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2005, 07:33 PM
18 pitches, 1 out, 2 men on...getting to Livan early tonight...this is a good sign.

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2005, 07:34 PM
full count to griff...here we go griff!

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:35 PM
Lopez almost picked off 2B.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:36 PM
Griffey strikes out, Lopez & Casey steal 2nd & 3rd. 2 outs.

jfar23
05-24-2005, 07:36 PM
The Reds really need Junior to pick it up. He hasn't hit so well lately.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:36 PM
Dunn hit by pitch, bases loaded. 2 outs.

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2005, 07:36 PM
darn

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 07:37 PM
Griff's in recession.

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2005, 07:37 PM
The Reds really need Junior to pick it up. He hasn't hit so well lately.

in the month of may isn't he batting over .300 with like 4 home runs?

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 07:38 PM
Griff's hitting 250 in May with 5 homers.

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2005, 07:39 PM
He is not regressing.....he just cannot come through every single time.

He has been more consistent this month for sure.

Petitt33
05-24-2005, 07:40 PM
Yes!!! Kearns with a 3 RBI 2B!!!

3-1 Reds

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:40 PM
Kearns doubles, 3 runs scores.

3-1 Reds!!!

jfar23
05-24-2005, 07:40 PM
I don't know about the whole month but his batting average is on a steady dive lately.

How wonderful would it be to see a clutch hit here or a bases clearing double? To actually cash in, come on kearns! WOW!! :beerme:

Buckeye33
05-24-2005, 07:41 PM
THat's what you call a

C-L-U-T-C-H

HIT!

Good job Ears.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:42 PM
Larue flies out. 3 outs.

3-1 Reds after 1 inning.

Petitt33
05-24-2005, 07:42 PM
LaRue pops out to short. 3 outs

3-1 Reds after 1 inning!

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2005, 07:43 PM
So has Dunn's. I still trust both Griffey and Dunn in situations like this more so than anyone else on this team.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 07:44 PM
That is what we have been missing offensively all year, excellent job :kearns:

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:44 PM
Guzman grounds out. 1 out.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 07:44 PM
So has Dunn's. I still trust both Griffey and Dunn in situations like this more so than anyone else on this team.

Dunn's also OPSing .300 more than Griffey.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:46 PM
Schneider flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:48 PM
Hernandez grounds out. 3 outs.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 07:49 PM
Why don't the Reds cut Stone and put Claussen in the bullpen then bring Steve Kelly up. Sounds reasonable to me.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:52 PM
L. Lopez strikes out. 1 out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:53 PM
Claussen grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:54 PM
Freel grounds out. 3 outs.

3-1 Reds after 2 Innings.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:57 PM
Wilkerson grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 07:58 PM
Carroll doubles.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 08:00 PM
What the heck is going on with Sportsline/MLB? Neither are picking this up.....they're still in the bottom of the 2nd.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:01 PM
Johnson singles, then goes to 2nd on an error.
Runners at 2nd & 3rd.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:02 PM
Guillen grounds out to 3rd, runners stay put. 2 outs.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:02 PM
Castilla intentionally walked, bases loaded. 2 outs.

Buckeye33
05-24-2005, 08:05 PM
On an unrelated note, Homer Bailey is again not starting for the Dayton Dragons tonight.

Not good if you ask me.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:06 PM
Church strikes out. 3 outs.

:)

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:08 PM
Claussen is up to 66 pitches after 3 innings. The bullpen will probably have to pitch 3-4 innings tonight.

MartyFan
05-24-2005, 08:09 PM
It may not be pretty but he is getting the job done

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:10 PM
F. Lopez singles.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:11 PM
Casey singles, F. Lopez goes to 3rd.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 08:12 PM
Claussen has been brutal tonight, the Nats offense must not be very good.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:13 PM
Griffey strikes out. 1 out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:14 PM
Dunn strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:15 PM
Kearns grounds out. 3 outs.

3-1 Reds after 3 Innings.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:18 PM
Guzman grounds out. 1 out.

Buckeye33
05-24-2005, 08:18 PM
Man, Kearns comes up with a rare Reds clutch 2 out hit, then the team remorts back to being themselves and leaves a runner on 3rd base when he got there with no outs.

Unacceptable.

DanO, Griffey, Dunn, Kearns all must be designated for assignment before the game is over.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:18 PM
Schneider singles.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:19 PM
Hernandez bunts Schneider over to 2B. 2 outs.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:21 PM
Wilkerson flies out. 3 outs.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 08:23 PM
If Claussen can make it through one more inning(which is debateable with the meat of the order coming up), I would get him out of there pronto, he looks awfull tonight. Belisle could use 2 innings of work.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:26 PM
Larue grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:26 PM
L. Lopez grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:27 PM
Claussen grounds out. 3 outs.

3-1 Reds after 4 innings.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:31 PM
Carroll grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:33 PM
Johnson walks.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:34 PM
Guillen doubles, Johnson to 3rd.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:36 PM
Castilla walks, bases loaded. 1 out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:37 PM
Byrd pinch hitting for Church.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:37 PM
Belisle warming up.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:39 PM
Byrd flies out. 1 run scores. 2 outs.

:/

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:40 PM
Guzman lines out. 3 outs.

3-2 Reds.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 08:40 PM
score? inning?

Edd Roush
05-24-2005, 08:40 PM
Thanks for the updates CTA...

ESPN Gamecast is frozen for the game on my laptop, it's nice to get the updates

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:43 PM
score? inning?

3-2 Reds 5th inning.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 08:43 PM
Every PBP site is frozen for this game. Whoever is doing the stringing must have had a computer crash or something. I've tried yahoo, cbs, espn, and mlb. Every site is showing Guillen hitting in the 3rd inning.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:44 PM
Freel walks.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 08:44 PM
It's frozen everywhere. I'll bet Danny got ahold of the internet feed to Cincinnati and chopped the wires to pieces.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 08:44 PM
Claussen gets the award for "I pitched like crap but still left with my dignity in tact award", yuck pal.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 08:44 PM
3-2 Reds 5th inning.

Thanks cap'n.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:46 PM
Freel caught stealing again. 1 out.

:/

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:47 PM
F. Lopez flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:48 PM
Casey hit by pitch.

CincyReds2003
05-24-2005, 08:49 PM
Every PBP site is frozen for this game. Whoever is doing the stringing must have had a computer crash or something. I've tried yahoo, cbs, espn, and mlb. Every site is showing Guillen hitting in the 3rd inning.

Either his computer crashed, or he is checking out some other websites.... :D

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:50 PM
Griffey reaches 1st after Carroll boots the ball, Casey to 3rd.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:52 PM
Dunn grounds out. 3 outs.

3-2 Reds after 5 Innings.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 08:52 PM
Either his computer crashed, or he is checking out some other websites.... :D

Same here. Relying on RZ for updates :)

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 08:54 PM
I think it's crankin' back up. Sportsline is motoring through the bottom of the 3rd now.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:56 PM
Schneider strikes out. 1 out.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:57 PM
Hernandez singles on fly ball that no one attempts to catch.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:59 PM
Wilkerson strikes out. 2 outs.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 08:59 PM
Claussen still in? Pitch count?

CTA513
05-24-2005, 08:59 PM
Claussen still in? Pitch count?

Claussens still in with 105 pitches.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:00 PM
Carroll grounds out. 3 outs.

3-2 Reds

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:00 PM
Claussen is sacking it up tonite.....

GameCast is still frozen on ESPN

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 09:00 PM
When's the last time the Reds strung quality starts back to back?

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:02 PM
Sportsline made it to the top of 4 before another freeze. Nuts.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:03 PM
Wagner warming up.

SirFelixCat
05-24-2005, 09:03 PM
When's the last time the Reds strung quality starts back to back?

When Christ was a Corporal? :giggle:

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:03 PM
Kearns strikes out. 1 out.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:05 PM
So I take it Weathers is the closer for now w/ Wagner and others serving as set ups? Out of the many in the pen, Weathers is the last guy I'd think we'd use as closer....hmmm going with experience I suppose. I would really like to see us acquire a young closer or start using wagner in that role since this season is a wash

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:05 PM
dangit kearnsy!!!! put a big game together

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:05 PM
Larue strikes out. 2 outs.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:06 PM
So I take it Weathers is the closer for now w/ Wagner and others serving as set ups? Out of the many in the pen, Weathers is the last guy I'd think we'd use as closer....hmmm going with experience I suppose. I would really like to see us acquire a young closer or start using wagner in that role since this season is a wash

They will. No one in their right minds could envision Weathers as anything but a very short-term option.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:06 PM
is it still 3-2?

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:06 PM
L. Lopez singles.

Cruz to bat for Claussen.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:07 PM
is it still 3-2?

Yes, 6th inning.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:08 PM
Cruz strikes out. 3 outs.

3-2 Reds after 6 Innings.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:08 PM
claussen pitched a solid 6 innings tonite
gotta love that.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 09:10 PM
thanks for the updates guys, since the internet is broken :D . I'd be really teed off right now without y'all, since my wife is using the radio to listen to country crap music, I can't listen to the game.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:10 PM
Wagner in to pitch the 7th.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:11 PM
set em down wagner......lets get this game to.........???weathers???? uhhh ya, that sounds right, weathers....?right?

Edd Roush
05-24-2005, 09:12 PM
Yea this is pretty odd, without the Gamecasts, or even scoreboards updating. If I could give out rep points, I would definately give them to CTA.

Thanks for keeping us posted man

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:12 PM
Johnson strikes out. 1 out.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 09:13 PM
For those trying to follow online, for some reason Fox Sports is up to date now. The rest are still broken I believe. I forgot about good ol' Fox Sports online. :rolleyes:

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:14 PM
Guillen singles.

Wagner limping around after having his foot stepped on by Guillen at 1st.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:15 PM
ya when are we "allowed" to give out rep points. I guess we're not big enough baseball fans. Its a weird system used on this board.....i thought that Russia was the only communist country.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 09:15 PM
That's just what we need. A pitching injury to one of the guys doing well.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:16 PM
That's just what we need. A pitching injury to one of the guys doing well.

He seems to be ok, hes back out there pitching.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 09:17 PM
Kearnsy you have to be in the ORG to give out rep points. I actually think the board is doing quite well under the new system, and I was one of the skeptics. Although nobody must read my posts, since I never get repped. :D

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:17 PM
Castilla strikes out. 2 outs.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:18 PM
Wagner=Nastiness

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:19 PM
Byrd walks, runners at 1st & 2nd. 2 outs.

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2005, 09:19 PM
Calling people Commies 'aint gonna help you either. ;)

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:20 PM
Wagner hit 92 mph on his fast ball.

2001MUgrad
05-24-2005, 09:20 PM
What's up with all the scoreboards on the net??

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:20 PM
Guzman grounds out. 3 outs.

3-2 Reds.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:20 PM
Off-topic: Cubs broadcasters mention that they'll address the "rumors" surrounding the Danny Graves situation. Hmm....

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:21 PM
What's up with all the scoreboards on the net??

Most of them are frozen. The only one that seems to be working is on foxsports.com

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 09:22 PM
How many baserunners did Claussen allow?

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:22 PM
Most of them are frozen. The only one that seems to be working is on foxsports.com

It's one of the poorer "live" update sites that I've seen, but updates are updates! Thanks CTA for keeping us somewhat sane tonight!

butlerbulldogs
05-24-2005, 09:22 PM
whats the score? espn.com isn't working, only for the reds-nats game, all the other ones are updating

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 09:22 PM
Most of them are frozen. The only one that seems to be working is on foxsports.com

As I thought a conspiracy!!!!! ;)

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:23 PM
Fox has Claussen down for 6 IP 7 H 2 ER 4 BB 4 K

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:23 PM
How many baserunners did Claussen allow?

According to Fox Sports hes allowed 11 (7 hits, 4 walks).

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:24 PM
whats the score? espn.com isn't working, only for the reds-nats game, all the other ones are updating

3-2 Reds, 7th Inning.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:24 PM
Freel lines out. 1 out.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 09:25 PM
Ugh. Not pretty peripherals. BUT...sounds like he exploited the Nats' weakness--swinging hard and heavy.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 09:26 PM
How many baserunners did Claussen allow?

Too many. Though I will give him credit, he fought a little rust and off stuff even though his fastball was topping out in the lower 90's more often tonight.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:26 PM
Livan Hernandez is an absolute stud. He seems to throw 120-130 every single time out and no history of arm troubles.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:26 PM
Bergolla is on deck and will bat for Casey.

Casey jammed his shoulder on the play at 1st involving, Wagner, Casey & Guillen.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:27 PM
F. Lopez singles.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:27 PM
Sportsline trying to catch up again.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 09:27 PM
It's one of the poorer "live" update sites that I've seen, but updates are updates! Thanks CTA for keeping us somewhat sane tonight!
Yes it's quite substandard. By my experience, I use sportsline for everything but NBA usually. Sportsline has a trend of screwing up the stats for NBA games.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:28 PM
Game Day is almost caught up.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:29 PM
Lopez thrown out stealing. 2 outs.

When are they going to learn? thats the 3rd time they Reds have been thrown out stealing tonight.

jfar23
05-24-2005, 09:30 PM
Why do they keep running on Schneider? :bang: It makes no sense.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 09:30 PM
Felipe has done well filling in for Aurilia, he should get some playing time after Rich comes back at 2nd and 3rd coming off the bench, also spelling Rich on his days off(yes, I am being sarcastic).

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:30 PM
Bergolla grounds out. 3 outs.

3-2 Reds after 7 Innings.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:31 PM
Wow. 3 CS. Do these two (Freel/Lopez) have the green light, or is Miley just that stupid?

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:32 PM
Mercker in to pitch the 8th.

Bergolla goes to 2B, L. Lopez to 3B, Dunn to 1B, Freel to LF.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:33 PM
Schneider singles.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:34 PM
If the Reds can hold the lead this inning, our new office-temp closer is going to have to face the meat of the lineup this time around........nothin' easy like last night awaiting Weathers.

Joseph
05-24-2005, 09:34 PM
Wow. 3 CS. Do these two (Freel/Lopez) have the green light, or is Miley just that stupid?

Most players have the green light except in certain situations.

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2005, 09:34 PM
So Wagner gets stepped on and Casey james his shoulder.....but Guillen is feeling great?


Is this when the injuries....freak or otherwise start to pile up?
Usually the more teams lose ...the more injured they become.
What comes first.....the injuries or the losing?

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 09:35 PM
So Wagner gets stepped on and Casey james his shoulder.....but Guillen is feeling great?


Is this when the injuries....freak or otherwise start to pile up?
Usually the more teams lose ...the more injured they become.
What comes first.....the injuries or the losing?

Well...the losing has been here...

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:35 PM
Bennett pinch runs for Schneider.

Hernandez bunts Bennett to 2B. 1 out.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:37 PM
I feel extra innings

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:37 PM
Wilkerson strikes out. 2 outs.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:38 PM
Nice job by Mercker there.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:38 PM
Carroll pops out. 3 outs.

3-2 Reds

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:39 PM
Weathers was warming up, so hes probably going to pitch the 9th.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:39 PM
nice.....this team might win two in a row.....

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 09:40 PM
shh, don't jinx it dude

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:40 PM
nice.....this team might win two in a row.....

Hey! :scared:

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:41 PM
Weathers, the new closer.......what happens if he just does a great job as the closer, does he remain it as the rest of the year? Any clue why threw drew out of a hat and chose Weathers to be the new closer of the minute? I mean what did he have to merit that role, has anyone read or heard anything on radio about the decision to make him the stopper?

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:41 PM
Cordero pitching the 8th for the Nationals.

Gainesville Red
05-24-2005, 09:41 PM
not watching tonight, any word on Casey?

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:41 PM
no such things as a jinx with this team....if they lose, oh well.....they're building for 2003! wait.....

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:42 PM
Weathers, the new closer.......what happens if he just does a great job as the closer, does he remain it as the rest of the year? Any clue why threw drew out of a hat and chose Weathers to be the new closer of the minute? I mean what did he have to merit that role, has anyone read or heard anything on radio about the decision to make him the stopper?

We've said it before. It's a "closer-by-committee" according to Miley. That means whoever has the hot hand goes with it until he slips. It's Weathers at the moment because of all that "veteran" moxie. Or something.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:43 PM
Griffey pops out. 1 out.

jfar23
05-24-2005, 09:44 PM
Johnson, Guillen, Castillo in the 9th for Weathers. I'd feel better if Dunn could add a run right here.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:45 PM
Dunn strikes out. 2 outs.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:46 PM
well so much for that.....dunn and griffey were absolutely worthless tonite....really sick of those two.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:46 PM
Dunn, Griffey both scuffling. Down to .242 and .252 respectively.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:46 PM
whats going on with kearnsy

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:48 PM
Kearns grounds out. 3 outs

3-2 Reds after 8 Innings.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:48 PM
Weathers to pitch the 9th.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:48 PM
they're absolutely brutal...no reason they both deserve to play everyday when WMP comes back, start kearns and WMP every night.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 09:49 PM
I think Griff may be a bit gassed. WMP needs to get his arse back pronto. I have no clue for somebody that has a "strained" quad would be doing with this much time. Is he snoozing with DanO on the 'hidden recliners?".

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:50 PM
Mercker is staying in to face Johnson.

Johnson singles.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:50 PM
Mercker is pulled, Weathers is now brought in.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:51 PM
they're absolutely brutal...no reason they both deserve to play everyday when WMP comes back, start kearns and WMP every night.

What's Kearns doing to justify his playing time? Really nothing besides his RBIs tonight.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 09:51 PM
Oh boy, where's Danny? :)

jfar23
05-24-2005, 09:51 PM
It is time, woh-ohh, it is time for stormy weather.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:52 PM
What's Kearns doing to justify his playing time? Really nothing besides his RBIs tonight.

he's hit safely in 9 of his last 12 games, and over his last 10 games is hitting at a .360 clip about

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:54 PM
Guillen grounds out, Johnson goes to 2nd. 1 out.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 09:55 PM
What's Kearns doing to justify his playing time? Really nothing besides his RBIs tonight.

I can only assume this is sarcasm because not only is Kearns responsible for all the Reds RBIs against a pitcher VERY tough on RHH, but he's taken virtually every count to 3-2 before making an out, thus making productive outs. He's done nothing wrong by my count. And relative to every other offensive player, he's been great.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 09:55 PM
he's hit safely in 9 of his last 12 games, and over his last 10 games is hitting at a .360 clip about

Adam Dunn in OPSing over 1.050 but you want him benched in favor of a guy OPSing under .800? Make sense to me.

I love Kearns, but no way should he start over Dunn.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:56 PM
Castilla grounds out. Johnson goes to 3rd. 2 outs.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 09:56 PM
I can only assume this is sarcasm because not only is Kearns responsible for all the Reds RBIs against a pitcher VERY tough on RHH, but he's taken virtually every count to 3-2 before making an out, thus making productive outs. He's done nothing wrong by my count. And relative to every other offensive player, he's been great.

Uh...I *said* besides his performance tonight. I mean in the overall sense, what has he done to prove himself more worthy of PT than Griffey?

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:58 PM
one more out

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 09:58 PM
I just think griffey is a terrible offensive player IMO.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:58 PM
Byrd walks.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 09:59 PM
Baerga batting for Guzman.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
I just think griffey is a terrible offensive player IMO.
WOW. Never heard that one before. Lost a step in the field, sure. He's struggling a bit at the moment, but everybody slumps. His track record shows that when healthy, he'll hit. Methinks you've been drinking the WLW FurmanCunninghamTracyJones Kool-Aid.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
I just think griffey is a terrible offensive player IMO.

"terrible"? Come on. Not the same as he once was, even in his 1st year in Cincy, but he's far from a terrible player.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
Baerga singles, 1 run scores.

3-3 tie game.

snowstorm
05-24-2005, 10:01 PM
I just think griffey is a terrible offensive player IMO.

I'm a huge Austin Kearns fan, but I'd disagree with that.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 10:01 PM
The curse of Graves lives on! Ugh. :(

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 10:02 PM
They just wanted the game to go to extra innings so the online scoreboards can catch up so they can save face. :D

CTA513
05-24-2005, 10:02 PM
Bennett strikes out. 3 outs.

3-3 tie game, 9th Inning.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 10:03 PM
Weathers at least got out of it. Bottom 9, here we come.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 10:03 PM
WOW. Never heard that one before. Lost a step in the field, sure. He's struggling a bit at the moment, but everybody slumps. His track record shows that when healthy, he'll hit. Methinks you've been drinking the WLW FurmanCunninghamTracyJones Kool-Aid.

first of all, tracy jones has always been all over juniors jock....always. So where have you been. Second of all, I read a stat in sports illustrated, actually a graphic about a month ago, it was a comparison of Ken Griffey Jr's #'s, and Kevin Mench (reserve player/spot starter for the rangers) #'s during the last four years. I would bet gilpdawg you don't even know who kevin mench is, but thats right in the past four years, that baseball nobody has out produced Ken Griffey offensively. He's simply not a great player anymore, and right now he's not even good.

Aronchis
05-24-2005, 10:03 PM
Hopefully its Wagner's turn to close next and he "Lopez's" the role.

Nugget
05-24-2005, 10:05 PM
I just think griffey is a terrible offensive player IMO.

That's why Junior gets the RBI's. He hasn't got it done tonight but someone else should be able to. That's why baseball is a team game. Its OK to support a player but I think some prejudice is seeping through.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 10:05 PM
Uh...I *said* besides his performance tonight. I mean in the overall sense, what has he done to prove himself more worthy of PT than Griffey?

Griffey, season OPS: .740

Kearns, season OPS: .766

Neither is killing the ball, but Kearns can actually get to balls hit to his right or left.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 10:05 PM
Larue flies out. 1 out.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 10:06 PM
first of all, tracy jones has always been all over juniors jock....always. So where have you been. Second of all, I read a stat in sports illustrated, actually a graphic about a month ago, it was a comparison of Ken Griffey Jr's #'s, and Kevin Mench (reserve player/spot starter for the rangers) #'s during the last four years. I would bet gilpdawg you don't even know who kevin mench is, but thats right in the past four years, that baseball nobody has out produced Ken Griffey offensively. He's simply not a great player anymore, and right now he's not even good.

Kevin Mench has 130 ABs for Texas this year. He's a pretty much full-time player. If you're going to quote a stat, then you might want to link the stat.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 10:06 PM
L. Lopez flies out. 2 outs.

Marty made it sound like it was a homerun. :/

jfar23
05-24-2005, 10:07 PM
Marty thought that was gone :(

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 10:07 PM
first of all, tracy jones has always been all over juniors jock....always. So where have you been. Second of all, I read a stat in sports illustrated, actually a graphic about a month ago, it was a comparison of Ken Griffey Jr's #'s, and Kevin Mench (reserve player/spot starter for the rangers) #'s during the last four years. I would bet gilpdawg you don't even know who kevin mench is, but thats right in the past four years, that baseball nobody has out produced Ken Griffey offensively. He's simply not a great player anymore, and right now he's not even good.
I know who Kevin Mench is. He's not that obscure of a player. Anybody who follows baseball would know him. That's not a fair comparison and you know it. Show me the numbers. Betcha Mench has more ABs. And don't give me that "you don't even know who he is" I've forgotten more baseball than you probably know. No offense, but I just don't care for your tone towards my post.

fisch11
05-24-2005, 10:07 PM
Don't tease me, Marty!!

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 10:08 PM
It was a graphic in sports illustrated. I'd quote it if it was available online. You stated that mench has 130 at bats, why didn't you quote that stat?

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 10:09 PM
Gilp I don't just know, and live baseball, I played the game for 22 years.....little league/ high school/ and college. I've played with players in the show right now...... so I don't know that you've "forgotten" more than I know.

Nugget
05-24-2005, 10:09 PM
first of all, tracy jones has always been all over juniors jock....always. So where have you been. Second of all, I read a stat in sports illustrated, actually a graphic about a month ago, it was a comparison of Ken Griffey Jr's #'s, and Kevin Mench (reserve player/spot starter for the rangers) #'s during the last four years. I would bet gilpdawg you don't even know who kevin mench is, but thats right in the past four years, that baseball nobody has out produced Ken Griffey offensively. He's simply not a great player anymore, and right now he's not even good.

It's great you can pick out the stats which suit your argument. In the last four years Junior has only been a bit player. FOR THE LAST FOUR YEAR JUNIOR HAS BEEN INJURED. You will find that Kevin Mench has probably played the same amount of games. Why don't you also pull up Kearn's stats from the last two years and compare them to Kevin Mench.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 10:09 PM
someone just batted and got the 3rd out.

going into the 10th.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 10:09 PM
It was a graphic in sports illustrated. I'd quote it if it was available online. You stated that mench has 130 at bats, why didn't you quote that stat?

What stat? You said Mench was a reserve. I disputed it with his high # of ABs. That's the stat.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 10:09 PM
Nugget you discredited yourself when you called me "predjudice".

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 10:10 PM
someone just batted and got the 3rd out.

going into the 10th.

Valentin.

According to MLB Gameday (and apparently Marty), that fly ball by Luis Lopez was almost gone.

CTA513
05-24-2005, 10:10 PM
Coffey into pitch.

gilpdawg
05-24-2005, 10:11 PM
Oh, and Kearnsy Ears-Kevin Mench has a career OPS of .842......Your beloved Kearns (I like him too, I'm not knocking him) has an OPS of .829 career. Who's the "baseball nobody?"

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 10:11 PM
first time on an in game thread gone into extra innings. who would stay if it went 16?

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 10:11 PM
Coffey is not to be trusted folks. Get yer crash helmets.

Walkerforpres
05-24-2005, 10:12 PM
Coffey?? Aw man...

CTA513
05-24-2005, 10:12 PM
Majewski strikes out. 1 out.

KearnsyEars
05-24-2005, 10:12 PM
I'm just saying, Griffey is great by no means, neither is Kevin Mench. Junior is done....he'll never hit .280 again, he'll never hit 30 HR again, and he'll never drive in 100 RBI again. He was my favorite growing up.

Nugget
05-24-2005, 10:13 PM
Nugget you discredited yourself when you called me "predjudice".

It's quite obvious that you don't like Junior as a player. To say that he is no longer even a good player would indicate that when analysing Junior's performance you are prejudicial, ie more likely to be critical of his performance.