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Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 06:31 PM
Today's Lineups
NO. WASHINGTON CINCINNATI
1. B. Wilkerson, CF R. Freel, 3B
2. J. Carroll, 2B F. Lopez, SS
3. N. Johnson, 1B S. Casey, 1B
4. J. Guillen, RF K. Griffey Jr., CF
5. V. Castilla, 3B A. Dunn, LF
6. R. Church, LF A. Kearns, RF
7. C. Guzman, SS J. LaRue, C
8. B. Schneider, C L. Lopez, 2B
9. L. Hernandez, P B. Claussen, P

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 06:32 PM
Washington (24-21) at Cincinnati (16-28), 7:10 pm EDT

CINCINNATI (Ticker) -- Livan Hernandez seeks his seventh consecutive victory when the Washington Nationals play the Cincinnati Reds on Tuesday.

Hernandez (6-2, 3.69 ERA) is the first pitcher in franchise history to win six straight starts since Javier Vazquez in 2001 for the-then Montreal Expos. The club record is eight straight winning starts, set by Pedro Martinez in 1997 and Charlie Lea in 1983.

Hernandez allowed a run and seven hits in six innings in a 3-2 triumph against the Milwaukee Brewers last Wednesday. The 30-year-old righthander hasn't beaten the Reds since 2000 and is 2-4 with a 4.99 ERA in eight career games against them.

The Reds posted a 5-3 victory in the series opener on Monday. Eric Milton pitched eight innings and allowed one earned run.

The 29-year-old Milton was the first Cincinnati lefthander to go that deep into a game since Lance Davis pitched a complete game against Detroit on September 16, 2001.

Jason LaRue, who entered the game batting .196, had three hits, including his second homer, and drove in two runs for the Reds.

Brandon Claussen (1-3, 4.71) will make his first start since leaving his May 10 start against San Diego in the fourth inning with a left ankle sprain.

The lefthander, making his first career appearance against the Nationals, is 0-2 with a 7.71 ERA in three home starts this season.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 06:33 PM
Injury Report
WASHINGTON
Brad Wilkerson, CF (Forearm; Doubtful Tue. vs Cin. 5/24)
Alex Escobar, CF (Quadricep; 60 Day DL. 3/24)
Joey Eischen, RP (Forearm; 60 Day DL. Out 8-10 weeks. 5/2)
Jose Vidro, 2B (Ankle; 15 Day DL. 5/5(Expected out another 3-weeks. 5/14))
Terrmel Sledge, LF (Hamstring Surgery; Expected out 4-6 months. 5/7)
Claudio Vargas, SP (Elbow; 15 Day DL. 3/17)
Francis Beltran, RP (; 60 Day DL. 3/17. Out for the season.)
Henry Mateo, 2B (Shoulder; 15 Day DL. 5/15)
Antonio Osuna, RP (Shoulder Surgery; 15 Day DL. 4/11)
Jeffrey Hammonds, RF (Pulled Hamstring; 15 Day DL. 5/22)

CINCINNATI
Luke Hudson, SP (Shoulder; 15 Day DL. 4/2)
Anderson Machado, SS (Knee; 15 Day DL. 4/2)
Ramon Ortiz, SP (Face; Left game early. Probable for next start. 5/24)
Wily Mo Pena, RF (Quadriceps; 15 Day DL. 5/3)
Ben Weber, RP (Neck; 15 Day DL. 5/10)
Rich Aurilia, SS (Hamstring; 15 Day DL. 5/10)
Josh Hancock, SP (Groin; 15 Day DL. 4/1)
Ray Olmedo, SS (Elbow; 60 Day DL. 4/2)
Joe Randa, 3B (Sore Foot; Questionable Tue. vs Was. 5/24)
Danny Graves, RP (None; has been released. 5/24)

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 06:34 PM
Wilkerson is on my fantasy team..I've definitely got him starting tonight ;)

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 06:40 PM
Wilkerson is on my fantasy team..I've definitely got him starting tonight ;)

I'm just trying to go two for two in starting game threads tonight. This shake-up on the Reds has me concerned if I don't produce I might get DFA'd. :)

Fullboat
05-24-2005, 06:43 PM
Good God!!! Aurilia is almost ready to come back. :eek:

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 06:44 PM
Good God!!! Aurilia is almost ready to come back. :eek:

Sticky a line up thread with him at SS batting 2nd

Fullboat
05-24-2005, 06:46 PM
Sticky a line up thread with him at SS batting 2nd

Maybe by Friday. :help:

letsgojunior
05-24-2005, 07:06 PM
Junior is going to homer tonight... he always homers on my birthday.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:07 PM
Hope it's with the bases loaded :cool:

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 07:09 PM
:birthday: LGJ Hope Jr homers for you.

Fullboat
05-24-2005, 07:09 PM
Happy B-Day letsgojunior :birthday:

oneupper
05-24-2005, 07:11 PM
Junior is going to homer tonight... he always homers on my birthday.

I wish he'd homer on mine. (It's in October) :(

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:12 PM
He'll never homer on mine (January) ;)

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Claussen having trouble throwing his breaking pitch for strikes.

Got ahead 0-2 on Carroll before he singled on a 3-2 count. 1-2 on Johnson and he walks him. Claussen just can't put the hitters away after getting ahead in the count.

smith288
05-24-2005, 07:19 PM
*crickets* quiet in here.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:20 PM
Guillen popped out. Castilla RBI double

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:20 PM
*crickets* quiet in here.

I think we were just waiting for some runs to score :bang:

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 07:21 PM
*crickets* quiet in here.

We're trying to take a nap.

Nice play by Griffey to cut the ball off. Probably saved a run.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:21 PM
Church K's.

Inning over 1-0 Nationals.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:22 PM
We'll get that back..we'll crush the Nationals

Fullboat
05-24-2005, 07:22 PM
Well that could of been a lot worse.

letsgojunior
05-24-2005, 07:23 PM
We'll get that back..we'll crush the Nationals

Yes on a Junior homer. :beerme:

He has to homer on his own bobblehead night.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 07:24 PM
We'll get that back..we'll crush the Nationals

The Reds are gonna' swat the Nats.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:25 PM
Yes on a Junior homer. :beerme:

He has to homer on his own bobblehead night.

How bout 2 homers? :D

Happy Birthday :beerme:

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:26 PM
Miley runs the Reds out of a potential big inning.

1 out.

westofyou
05-24-2005, 07:27 PM
Giving away outs in the first inning makes me crazy.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 07:27 PM
The Reds are gonna' swat the Nats.

The Reds will buy a carnivorous plant and the 'Nats will fall in and be eaten. ;) :thumbup:

flyer85
05-24-2005, 07:27 PM
Miley runs the Reds out of a potential big inning.

1 out.I thougt it was Freel

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:28 PM
So much for the grand slam :rant:

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:28 PM
FeLo walks.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 07:28 PM
The National PBP just said they like F. Lopez in Cincy and think he'll have a breakout year.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 07:29 PM
Giving away outs in the first inning makes me crazy.

While they were busy dumping people, they could have gone ahead and given Miley his pink slip too, ya know.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:29 PM
I thougt it was Freel

I'm sure Miley called for the steal.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:31 PM
Here we go JR here we go :clap: :clap:

flyer85
05-24-2005, 07:31 PM
Jr has 4 hits off Livan ... all HRs

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:32 PM
Casey walks.

Would be nice to have the bases loaded here eh?

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 07:32 PM
Maybe Sean's protest is to not swing at bad pitches. Keep up the protestin' there, tiger!

Chip R
05-24-2005, 07:33 PM
Maybe Sean's protest is to not swing at bad pitches. Keep up the protestin' there, tiger!Fight the power!

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 07:34 PM
The pace this game is going, it MAY be over in time for the 12:35 game tomorrow

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 07:34 PM
The Reds will buy a carnivorous plant and the 'Nats will fall in and be eaten. ;) :thumbup:

Audrey says hello. :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/images/2004/12/10/little_shop_203_203x152.jpg

smith288
05-24-2005, 07:37 PM
Steeeerike 3. Speedy Gon-Casey with his first SB

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:37 PM
Griffey K's.

double steal, close call at 3rd. Miley is dumb. Almost gave up another out.

Dunn HBP.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 07:37 PM
Audrey says hello. :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/images/2004/12/10/little_shop_203_203x152.jpg

I took my niece and nephew to a greenhouse/conservatory today, and what did they want to buy from the gift shop?

Venus Flytraps. Uncle Falls couldn't let 'em down, could he?

flyer85
05-24-2005, 07:38 PM
I don't think he wanted to pitch to Dunn but didn't want to throw 4 pitches to give him first

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:40 PM
Dunn should have charged in ;)

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:40 PM
Kearns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:40 PM
Kearns 3 run double!

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 07:41 PM
...seems like something may have shaken this team up a bit..

...any ideas?

Fullboat
05-24-2005, 07:42 PM
Wow!!! RELEASE ANOTHER PLAYER

I vote Rich Aurilia off the Island.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:42 PM
Kearns rocks the house :cool:

smith288
05-24-2005, 07:43 PM
...seems like something may have shaken this team up a bit..

...any ideas? Its probably the new snack spread they got. It has been expanded and moved in front of 2 formerly occupied lockers.

MWM
05-24-2005, 07:44 PM
I can't believe Dunn didn't try harder to get out of the way of that pitch. He left the heavy lifting for Austin. How Dunn-like. :pimp:

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 07:44 PM
I took my niece and nephew to a greenhouse/conservatory today, and what did they want to buy from the gift shop?

Venus Flytraps. Uncle Falls couldn't let 'em down, could he?

:thumbup:

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 07:49 PM
Nats go down in order in the 2nd.

Falls City Beer
05-24-2005, 07:49 PM
Man, the Nats have some swing from the heels hackers, don't they?

flyer85
05-24-2005, 07:49 PM
I can't believe Dunn didn't try harder to get out of the way of that pitch. He left the heavy lifting for Austin. How Dunn-like. :pimp:he knew he couldn't hit a HR because there were runners on so he took the easy way out. :confused:

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 07:49 PM
I can't believe Dunn didn't try harder to get out of the way of that pitch. He left the heavy lifting for Austin. How Dunn-like. :pimp:

Would that be called a "soft HBP"?

flyer85
05-24-2005, 07:50 PM
Man, the Nats have some swing from the heels hackers, don't they?thats what milton took advantage of last night. Lots of offspeed early in the count.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 07:52 PM
Ok. For some reason this game isn't on MLB Extra Innings. I have no idea why. Anyone got a free radio link?

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:53 PM
The answer is John Tyler with 15 kids


For those being subjected to Marty ;)

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 07:54 PM
Ok. For some reason this game isn't on MLB Extra Innings. I have no idea why. Anyone got a free radio link?

wkki.net

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 07:55 PM
Ok. For some reason this game isn't on MLB Extra Innings. I have no idea why. Anyone got a free radio link?

I think Letsgojuinor has one but I don't know what it is.

Puffy
05-24-2005, 07:56 PM
gO rEDz!!!

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 07:59 PM
Thanks, guys. For some reason, Sportsline thinks that Luis Lopez is still at the plate.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 08:00 PM
Thanks, guys. For some reason, Sportsline thinks that Luis Lopez is still at the plate.

It's too shocked he's even starting? ;)

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 08:04 PM
Thanks, guys. For some reason, Sportsline thinks that Luis Lopez is still at the plate.

Thats one dude that needs a nickname. LuLo just ain't gonna' cut it. :devil:

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 08:07 PM
Claussen near 70 pitches already

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:07 PM
Church K's. Claussen hit 91 on that pitch.

PuffyPig
05-24-2005, 08:11 PM
Miley runs the Reds out of a potential big inning.

1 out.

I thought that one of the reasons that Freel makes sense at lead off was so he could steal bases?

Yes, there's a risk he might be thrown out, but you can't steal without some risk.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 08:12 PM
I thought that one of the reasons that Freel makes sense at lead off was so he could steal bases?

Yes, there's a risk he might be thrown out, but you can't steal without some risk.

OBM's message was not to risk Outs indiscriminately.

Miley just sends 'em to send 'em. Always has.

CincyRedsFan30
05-24-2005, 08:13 PM
I thought that one of the reasons that Freel makes sense at lead off was so he could steal bases?

Yes, there's a risk he might be thrown out, but you can't steal without some risk.

For me it's a situational thing. I don't think you steal just for the sake of stealing, which is what it seems like the Reds do too often at times.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:13 PM
I thought that one of the reasons that Freel makes sense at lead off was so he could steal bases?

Yes, there's a risk he might be thrown out, but you can't steal without some risk.

I thought the reason Freel leadsoff is because of the .430 OBP. I could care less about stolen bases.

I hate giving away outs, especially in the 1st inning.

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:14 PM
This will be Dunn's sacrifice...I can feeel it

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:15 PM
This will be Dunn's sacrifice...I can feeel it Or not. (he K's looking)

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:15 PM
1st and 3rd 0 out...and the Reds fail to score.

Raisor
05-24-2005, 08:16 PM
I thought that one of the reasons that Freel makes sense at lead off was so he could steal bases?

Yes, there's a risk he might be thrown out, but you can't steal without some risk.

the biggest reason Freel makes sense at leadoff is that he gets on base a ton.

Getting caught stealing is a bigger minus then not getting caught is a plus.

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:16 PM
1st and 3rd no outs and they dont score... flippin a'

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 08:20 PM
Miley just sends 'em to send 'em. Always has.

Freel's got the green light to go whenever. I think. If so that particular play may not have been Miley's fault.

Just sayin....

CrackerJack
05-24-2005, 08:21 PM
Freel's got the green light to go whenever. I think. If so that particular play may not have been Miley's fault.


Then maybe Miley needs to give him the yellow light...:)

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 08:22 PM
Getting caught stealing is a bigger minus then not getting caught is a plus.

Freel is below the threshold for helping his team. After his latest CS, he has a 69% success rate.

PuffyPig
05-24-2005, 08:23 PM
the biggest reason Freel makes sense at leadoff is that he gets on base a ton.

Getting caught stealing is a bigger minus then not getting caught is a plus.

Which is why you need to steal about a 75% success rate for it to make sense.

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:25 PM
the biggest reason Freel makes sense at leadoff is that he gets on base a ton.

Getting caught stealing is a bigger minus then not getting caught is a plus. Hey...This post wasnt funny. I expect better from you Raisor. ;)

Raisor
05-24-2005, 08:26 PM
Which is why you need to steal about a 75% success rate for it to make sense.

isn't it a higher % in today's game, now?

IIRC, it was 75% back in the 70's and 80's when everyone and their mother was playing for one run.

In today's thunder offenses, wouldn't it need to be a much higher %?

Raisor
05-24-2005, 08:27 PM
Hey...This post wasnt funny. I expect better from you Raisor. ;)


I wrote it while juggling puppies.

That's pretty funny, right?

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:30 PM
I wrote it while juggling puppies.

That's pretty funny, right? Depends. Are they wearing bowties? Because if they are, then no.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 08:30 PM
isn't it a higher % in today's game, now?

IIRC, it was 75% back in the 70's and 80's when everyone and their mother was playing for one run.

In today's thunder offenses, wouldn't it need to be a much higher %?

That makes sense Raisor, but all I've heard is 75%. Interesting question...We'll have to check on that, meaning I'll sit here and wait for Steel to tell me. :)

Raisor
05-24-2005, 08:31 PM
Depends. Are they wearing bowties? Because if they are, then no.

I'm sorry, but puppies wearing bowties are VERY funny.

Especially when they're being juggled.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:31 PM
isn't it a higher % in today's game, now?

IIRC, it was 75% back in the 70's and 80's when everyone and their mother was playing for one run.

In today's thunder offenses, wouldn't it need to be a much higher %?

Wasn't it 80% in Moneyball?

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:32 PM
I'm sorry, but puppies wearing bowties are VERY funny.

Especially when they're being juggled. Youre slipping... Bowtie, not funny. Neck scarf...very funny.

SirFelixCat
05-24-2005, 08:33 PM
My kingdom for a lil pbp here folks. *sigh* :-p

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 08:34 PM
I think we've lost complete control of the game thread :)

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:34 PM
My kingdom for a lil pbp here folks. *sigh* :-p PBP? People Being Poopyheads? :P

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:35 PM
Guillen double. Johnson at 3rd.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 08:36 PM
That makes sense Raisor, but all I've heard is 75%. Interesting question...We'll have to check on that, meaning I'll sit here and wait for Steel to tell me. :)

70% is about break even. 75% is helpful, but not to the point that you don't want to take things like...oh...Catcher into account.;)

Schneider is one of the best throwing Catchers in Major League Baseball. To indiscriminately run on the guy, your normal SB success rate better be "Eric Davis in his prime". Otherwise, you just did a Dumb Thing.

No MLB Manager with any intelligence should be giving anyone the green light with Brian Schneider catching or indiscriminately call for a SB with none Out in the first Inning.

But then, we don't have a MLB manager. So, oh well.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:37 PM
Marlon Tyrd pinch hits for Church.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 08:38 PM
That makes sense Raisor, but all I've heard is 75%. Interesting question...We'll have to check on that, meaning I'll sit here and wait for Steel to tell me. :)

But why would it matter Raisor? It's still going to be sucessful attempts vs. the outs created in relation to runs scored. The type of offense being played shouldn't factor into it. Should it?

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:40 PM
3-2 Reds after 4-1/2.

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:40 PM
What is with all the game update tools. ESPN, CBSSportsline, MLB all stuck with Guillen... what a pain.

OldCat
05-24-2005, 08:41 PM
But why would it matter Raisor? It's still going to be sucessful attempts vs. the outs created in relation to runs scored. The type of offense being played shouldn't factor into it. Should it?

Yes, because the "loss" for a CS depends on what chance the guy had of scoring on first vs second base. If you knew the next batter would always hit a HR, it would be lunacy to run since there would be no gain in a SB there, and any CS would cost 1 run. So the bigger the SLG of the league, the easier to score from first and the less value a successful SB has.

PuffyPig
05-24-2005, 08:41 PM
What is with all the game update tools. ESPN, CBSSportsline, MLB all stuck with Guillen... what a pain.

They all run on the same system, so they are often stuck together.

LvJ
05-24-2005, 08:42 PM
What is with all the game update tools. ESPN, CBSSportsline, MLB all stuck with Guillen... what a pain. :runaway:

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:43 PM
funniest. smiley. ever.

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:44 PM
I wonder how one gets the job of Gameupdate guy. Does he sit at home and log into some admin interface with his free MLB game package? Is he some guy at the game?

I want that kind of work.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:44 PM
Freel with a leadoff walk.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 08:45 PM
They all run on the same system, so they are often stuck together.

Dude updating it needs to take a poop BEFORE showing up at the park then.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:46 PM
Dude updating it needs to take a poop BEFORE showing up at the park then.

:bowrofl: :ughmamoru

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 08:47 PM
Did I mention that Brian Scheider is REALLY good at throwing out baserunners???

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:47 PM
:bang:

I strongly dislike Miley.

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:47 PM
Would someone put a banker's pen chain on Ryans foot.

LvJ
05-24-2005, 08:48 PM
Did Freel get caught again? :owned:

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:48 PM
Did Freel get caught again? :owned: Not only did he get caught steeling... He got sentenced to community service for a double offense....

CincyRedsFan30
05-24-2005, 08:50 PM
Why must we steal just for the sake of stealing?

Hernandez' control starts to go on him, so we decide to give him an out and change the complexion of the inning. Smart. :rolleyes:

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 08:50 PM
Lopez flew out, 2 down.

Casey HBP

Griffey reaches on error

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:51 PM
Maybe Dunn can move the bat off his massive shoulder this time.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 08:51 PM
Who are the idiots on the radio I'm being forced to listen to?

LvJ
05-24-2005, 08:52 PM
Not only did he get caught steeling... He got sentenced to community service for a double offense.... :ughmamoru

I just got myself to blame...leave everything up to fate when there's choices I can make...when there's choices I can make. Now my heart needs a polygraph...always eager to pack my bags when I really wanna stay...

Stay on 1st, Freel. :dunno:

smith288
05-24-2005, 08:53 PM
Dunn continues to be near worthless with runners on... grounds out.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 08:55 PM
Dunn continues to be near worthless with runners on... grounds out.

I thought you wanted the bat off his shoulder?

Adam Dunn 2004- Runners On:

.245 BA/.500 OBP/.633 SLG

Yeah. He sucks.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 08:55 PM
No MLB Manager with any intelligence should be giving anyone the green light with Brian Schneider catching or indiscriminately call for a SB with none Out in the first Inning.

But then, we don't have a MLB manager. So, oh well.

How about in the 5th? ;)

It's hindsight now, but those two CS have cost the Reds at least two runs.

PuffyPig
05-24-2005, 08:58 PM
Dunn continues to be near worthless with runners on... grounds out.

As his 1.127 OPS with runners on would seem to indicate.......

smith288
05-24-2005, 09:00 PM
I thought you wanted the bat off his shoulder?

Adam Dunn 2004- Runners On:

.245 BA/.500 OBP/.633 SLG

Yeah. He sucks. Umm.... Hmm...

My incitement worked. You are learning young Jedi. Impressive... Most impressive.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 09:00 PM
How about in the 5th? ;)

It's hindsight now, but those two CS have cost the Reds at least two runs.

Could be.

But I the Freel CS-fest tonight really highlights the concept that a player or manager has to know who he's going up against. Freel's CS % coming into the game might have been above 70%, but he's not a 70% basestealer versus a guy like Schneider. Very very few people are.

Both he and, particularly, Miley should know that.

OldCat
05-24-2005, 09:00 PM
Don't be confusing the situation with nasty old facts, Puffy!

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 09:02 PM
Umm.... Hmm...

My incitement worked. You are learning young Jedi.

What were you trying to entice me to do...post facts that counter your claims of suckitude?

Good plan. ;)

And you're the Dark Side, s_ith288.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

smith288
05-24-2005, 09:02 PM
Cmon guys. Give me a break. Im still having trouble finding a target, post Graves, to direct my negative vibes.

smith288
05-24-2005, 09:03 PM
What were you trying to entice me to do...post facts that counter your claims of suckitude?

Good plan. ;)

And you're the Dark Side, s_ith288.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Actually... I listened to Marty and didnt look into his stupid claims that Dunn sucks with runners on. My bad...in any event S_ith288.... Im not a star wars dork but that is cool... I need a crown of horns now.

LvJ
05-24-2005, 09:04 PM
:dunno: What's going on? Score? Situation?

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 09:05 PM
Cmon guys. Give me a break. Im still having trouble finding a target, post Graves, to direct my negative vibes.

Miley. A bad Manager he is.

Bad Management leads to losing. Losing leads to despair and confusion. Confusion leads to blaming a chair.

LvJ
05-24-2005, 09:05 PM
I'm listening to They Might Be Giants - Alphabet of Nations :bowrofl: :dancingco

OldCat
05-24-2005, 09:05 PM
Cmon guys. Give me a break. Im still having trouble finding a target, post Graves, to direct my negative vibes.

Do they publish the names of the batboys or the grounds crews? I think you could go a long way blaming everything on the guys who roll out the tarp. Especially the guy third from the left!

Joseph
05-24-2005, 09:07 PM
Do they publish the names of the batboys or the grounds crews? I think you could go a long way blaming everything on the guys who roll out the tarp. Especially the guy third from the left!

My wife always tries to blame the middle hose holder [when watering the ground prior to the game] if the Reds lose.

smith288
05-24-2005, 09:09 PM
Do they publish the names of the batboys or the grounds crews? I think you could go a long way blaming everything on the guys who roll out the tarp. Especially the guy third from the left! Im not so sure. He showed promise last year and has the natural ability to unroll. The guy who spray paints the bases doesnt do complete coverage. He should be the target of my ire.

OldCat
05-24-2005, 09:09 PM
My wife always tries to blame the middle hose holder [when watering the ground prior to the game] if the Reds lose.

He should be dfa'd, the hoser!

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:10 PM
Yes, because the "loss" for a CS depends on what chance the guy had of scoring on first vs second base. If you knew the next batter would always hit a HR, it would be lunacy to run since there would be no gain in a SB there, and any CS would cost 1 run. So the bigger the SLG of the league, the easier to score from first and the less value a successful SB has.

I see what your saying OC but the expected runs will always be greater the further along the runners are regardless of SLG. In otherwords, it will always be easier to score from second than it will from first. I'm not sure you can factor in SLG into stolen base percentage in a meaningful way. I may be wrong though, I'm just thinking out loud here. Good post.

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 09:10 PM
:dunno: What's going on? Score? Situation?

I wish I knew. No Gameday or Yahoo etc. updates, and even though I have the game on the radio, I keep tuning it out.

Apparently it's heading to the 7th inning, but that's all I've got.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 09:11 PM
I wish I knew. No Gameday or Yahoo etc. updates, and even though I have the game on the radio, I keep tuning it out.

Apparently it's heading to the 7th inning, but that's all I've got.

3-2 Reds...top 7, Wagner pitching

smith288
05-24-2005, 09:11 PM
I would tell you too but Marty and Steve absolutely suck with details about the game.

I do know Johnson is up and Wagner is pitching

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 09:11 PM
I see what your saying OC but the expected runs will always be greater the further along the runners are regardless of SLG. In otherwords, it will always be easier to score from second than it will from first. I'm not sure you can factor in SLG into stolen base percentage in a meaningful way. I may be wrong though, I'm just thinking out loud here. Good post.

OldCat is correct. The more probable multiple base acquisition is with a runner on 1st, the less valuable a Stolen Base is.

OldCat
05-24-2005, 09:11 PM
Im not so sure. He showed promise last year and has the natural ability to unroll. The guy who spray paints the bases doesnt do complete coverage. He should be the target of my ire.

There you go with that spray painter nonsense. Good tarp rolling beats good spray painting every time. After all grass cutting is 75 percent of grounds-crewing. And is C-ROPS is an awful 22.3333.

smith288
05-24-2005, 09:14 PM
There you go with that spray painter nonsense. Good tarp rolling beats good spray painting every time. After all grass cutting is 75 percent of grounds-crewing. And is C-ROPS is an awful 22.3333. You go by the C-ROPS?? What a loser. Everyone knows the XFR matrix shows quality overall in a season.

Looks at me...my name is OldCat and I use C-ROPS to rate groundscrew... *scoff*

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:14 PM
Wagner comes up limping.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-24-2005, 09:15 PM
Is this the game thread? I seem to be lost in a parallel world

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:16 PM
Wagner gets clipped by Guillen trying to cover first base but remains in the game.

OldCat
05-24-2005, 09:18 PM
I see what your saying OC but the expected runs will always be greater the further along the runners are regardless of SLG. In otherwords, it will always be easier to score from second than it will from first. I'm not sure you can factor in SLG into stolen base percentage in a meaningful way. I may be wrong though, I'm just thinking out loud here. Good post.

True a successful CS is always a plus, but the value of the CS is the difference between the value of the current situation and the one after the CS. Imagine a league where the average SLG is, say 800. A man on first would be pretty likely to score, say 70 pct. if the chance to score on secons is 75 pct, then the max gain is 5 pct, the max loss 70 pct. You better make it almost all the time.

Then we move to a pitchers league where the average SLG is 150. You might have a 10 pct chance to score from first, and a 25 pct from second. So the gain is 15 and the loss only 10. Get on your track shoes!

Virginia Beach Reds
05-24-2005, 09:19 PM
Marlon Tyrd is up.

OldCat
05-24-2005, 09:19 PM
You go by the C-ROPS?? What a loser. Everyone knows the XFR matrix shows quality overall in a season.

Looks at me...my name is OldCat and I use C-ROPS to rate groundscrew... *scoff*

C-ROPS was good enough for my daddy and its good enough for me!

membengal
05-24-2005, 09:19 PM
With gamecasts frozen and a balky internet connection for mbl audio, I am relying on you all tonite for updates. What's the current score?

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 09:20 PM
3-2 Reds to the best of my knowledge.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:20 PM
Could be.

Both he and, particularly, Miley should know that.

Well, they should have known it before the series started but they've been well versed in it tonight.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 09:21 PM
With gamecasts frozen and a balky internet connection for mbl audio, I am relying on you all tonite for updates. What's the current score?

3-2 in the 7th.

Wagner gets a groundout to end the top half of the 7th.

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 09:21 PM
(Maybe doing PBP will make me pay attention to the radio?)

Top of 7th:
Wagner in to pitch. Reds up by a run, but I don't know the score. (3-2?)

Johnson Ks swinging. 1 out.

Guillen safe on an infield hit. Wagner covered 1B for and is a little bit limping as Guillen may have stepped on his foot. Wagner throwing a few pitches to see if he's okay.

Castilla Ks swinging. 2 out.

Byrd walks, Guillen heads to second.

Guzman grounds out to L.Lopez, 3 outs.

FYI: Javy Lopez broke his finger, is probably going on the DL.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:21 PM
Miley. A bad Manager he is.

Bad Management leads to losing. Losing leads to despair and confusion. Confusion leads to blaming a chair.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SteelSD again.

buckeyenut
05-24-2005, 09:24 PM
Actually... I listened to Marty and didnt look into his stupid claims that Dunn sucks with runners on. My bad...in any event S_ith288.... Im not a star wars dork but that is cool... I need a crown of horns now.

Marty is right. Dunn has a BA 10 pts less than his normal BA with runners on (.245 vs .253 or something like that) so he has to suck with runners on base.

buckeyenut
05-24-2005, 09:25 PM
Marty is right. Dunn has a BA 10 pts less than his normal BA with runners on (.245 vs .253 or something like that) so he has to suck with runners on base.BTW, just in case it wasn't glaringly obvious, sarcasm.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 09:26 PM
Marty is right. Dunn has a BA 10 pts less than his normal BA with runners on (.245 vs .253 or something like that) so he has to suck with runners on base.

Unfortunately, Marty can't grab a calculator and figure out that differential represents one half of a base hit.

They got rid of the chairs, but Marty's still insane.

Just sayin'.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 09:26 PM
Did Casey get hurt? Or traded? ;)

Bergolla is going to PH for Casey.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 09:27 PM
I think Casey needs to borrow Dunn's chair...

DJF33
05-24-2005, 09:27 PM
Casey jambed shoulder on play at first.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 09:28 PM
Did Casey get hurt? Or traded? ;)

Bergolla is going to PH for Casey.

1st Major League HR...you heard it here first!

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 09:29 PM
Reds get caught stealing....again

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 09:29 PM
Felipe has been on abse 3 times tonight.

Unfrigginbelievable. Lopez caught stealing.

Miley is as clueless as they come.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 09:29 PM
Hey. Let's just send another runner shall we. That Schneider guy sucks!

Redmachine2003
05-24-2005, 09:30 PM
Speed kills

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 09:30 PM
Bottom of the 7th:

Hernandez still pitching, score still 3-2 Reds.

Freel lines out to right. (Sounds like Guillen made a good play.) 1 out.

F.Lopez hits one up the middle, base hit.

Bergolla hits for Casey; Casey jammed his shoulder on the play at 1B that involved Wagner and Guillen. Doc K has been called to come look at Casey. Hope he's okay. :(

Felipe caught stealing, 2 outs. (You'd think the Reds would quit trying to steal on Livan and Schneider. Just maybe.)

Bergolla grounds out to second, 3 outs.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 09:31 PM
Lets go Reds :D

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 09:32 PM
OMG! Suddenly Gameday is working again! Bout time.

TRF
05-24-2005, 09:33 PM
cbs sportsline is no longer stuck, though the game is in the 5th innin there. :)

Puffy
05-24-2005, 09:33 PM
On the bright side, if this game goes extra innings we have Bergolla in the 3 hole. Wooooohoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 09:33 PM
Come on Mercker

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:35 PM
True a successful CS is always a plus, but the value of the CS is the difference between the value of the current situation and the one after the CS. Imagine a league where the average SLG is, say 800. A man on first would be pretty likely to score, say 70 pct. if the chance to score on secons is 75 pct, then the max gain is 5 pct, the max loss 70 pct. You better make it almost all the time.

Then we move to a pitchers league where the average SLG is 150. You might have a 10 pct chance to score from first, and a 25 pct from second. So the gain is 15 and the loss only 10. Get on your track shoes!

That makes sense. I was using the expected runs matrix as the value of the base situation. Is there a metric that takes SLG into account when figuring stole base success rates that you know of? I've got the formula from BP but I don't know if it takes that into account. Thanks.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 09:36 PM
What the heck.

Schneider singles and Frank Robinson pinch runs for him...with Gary Bennett- another catcher!

CincyRedsFan30
05-24-2005, 09:36 PM
Did Frank Robinson talk to LaRussa? ;)

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 09:37 PM
If Steve Stewart would have just read the thread he would have known the answer

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 09:39 PM
Weathers..our new closer warming in the pen

CincyRedsFan30
05-24-2005, 09:39 PM
Nice job by Mercker!

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 09:39 PM
Top of the 8th:

Mercker in to pitch. Bergolla now at 2nd, L.Lopez at 3rd, Freel in LF, Dunn at 1B. (I think.)

Schneider leads off with a single. Gary Bennett comes in to run for him.

Hernandez, who has thrown 123 pitches, is batting. He sacrifices Bennett to 2B, Hernandez is out at first. 1 out.

Wilkerson is supposedly at bat, but all Marty and Steve are talking about is the trivia question. A-ha! Wilkerson Ks, 2 outs. (Thank you Gameday.)

Carroll pops up, 3 outs.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:40 PM
Hey. Let's just send another runner shall we. That Schneider guy sucks!

If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. :laugh:

I don't mean to laugh. I think this season has finally driven me insane.

Caveat Emperor
05-24-2005, 09:40 PM
Just getting caught up with the game thread...

So, if the Reds win tonight, what else gets taken out of the clubhouse?

Maybe replace the whirpool with a washtub and a boat motor?

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 09:41 PM
Just getting caught up with the game thread...

So, if the Reds win tonight, what else gets taken out of the clubhouse?



The porn

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 09:42 PM
Casey with a jammed left shoulder

(is that what Marty said?)

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:43 PM
Casey jammed left shoulder. Thats the reason he left the game.

CincyRedsFan30
05-24-2005, 09:43 PM
Not sure what Marty said.

I think he and Steve are both taking a vacation day tonight. ;)

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:44 PM
Casey with a jammed left shoulder

(is that what Marty said?)

Don't know, but thats what the National PBP guys just said.

membengal
05-24-2005, 09:45 PM
Not sure what Marty said.

I think he and Steve are both taking a vacation day tonight. ;)

Or...and I am just throwing this out there for consideration...they are so comfortable in their new reclining massage chairs that they are having trouble paying attention to the game action.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:45 PM
Weathers warming up in the pen.

Caveat Emperor
05-24-2005, 09:46 PM
Casey jammed left shoulder. Thats the reason he left the game.

Just a "hunch", but I'm betting he's also checking the proverbial want ads as well...

MWM
05-24-2005, 09:47 PM
All these stolen base attempts are nothing more than prideful stubborness by Miley. He thinks if he doesn't run anymore than it means he shouldn't have run in the first place. It's the "sticking to the game plan" nonsense.

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 09:48 PM
Bottom of the 8th:

Chad Cordero in to pitch. Some more runs would be nice here.

Junior pops up to SS. 1 out.

Dunn Ks, 2 outs. (Marty: "Adam Dunn strikes out. Again." :rolleyes: )

Kearns works the count full, but grounds out to SS. 3 outs.

Onto the 9th!

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 09:48 PM
So..will Marty throw a party when Dunn gets traded for some single A arms?

Kc61
05-24-2005, 09:49 PM
If Casey is out tomorrow, and Randa is out tomorrow, with a short bench (13 pitchers), do the Reds have enough guys to field a team? Do we see Valentin at first base? Does Jacob Cruz actually play the field tomorrow?

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:51 PM
Just a "hunch", but I'm betting he's also checking the proverbial want ads as well...

Looked like Casey took a pretty hard spill trying to make the play at 1st.

And surely even O'Brien could work a trade for Casey.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 09:52 PM
Casey went looking for the chairs

Reds1
05-24-2005, 09:52 PM
Just goes to show we can have Dunn, Kearns, Wily Mo and Griff on this team. Wily Mo has been hurt and now CAsey so if Mo comes back all 4 can play. I don't know if Casey will be out long. Hopefully not, but we have all of them and make it work.

Caveat Emperor
05-24-2005, 09:53 PM
Casey went looking for the chairs

Sean Casey & The Raiders of the Lost Recliners...

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:53 PM
Weathers in to face Guillen with a runner on first with no outs.

flyer85
05-24-2005, 09:53 PM
This organization is heading for disaster at the speed of light and those in charge have their heads in the sand.

Kc61
05-24-2005, 09:54 PM
This organization is heading for disaster at the speed of light and those in charge have their heads in the sand.

You mean they could get worse?

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 09:55 PM
You mean they could get worse?

We're gonna be the Brewers soon

WOO catch the fever

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 09:55 PM
You mean they could get worse?

Depending on one's perspective, he could have meant that things will improve to that point.

membengal
05-24-2005, 09:56 PM
game updates por favor?

TRF
05-24-2005, 09:56 PM
I finally lost it with Marty with his call of Dunn's strikeout. The disdain in his voice, just finally got to me. Since I know he'll never read it on the air...
It amazes me that a man with over 30 years experience shows such utter disdain for a player because of strikeouts. The bitterness in your voice when calling a strikeout by Adam Dunnis not only evident, it is ridiculous. I suppose it doesn't matter that he makes an out less than anyone else on the team except Ryan Freel, or that he leads the NL in HR's and is in the top 10 in OBP and SLG. But keep tooting that strikeout horn.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 09:57 PM
It amazes me that a man with over 30 years experience shows such utter disdain for a player because of strikeouts. The bitterness in your voice when calling a strikeout by Adam Dunnis not only evident, it is ridiculous. I suppose it doesn't matter that he makes an out less than anyone else on the team except Ryan Freel, or that he leads the NL in HR's and is in the top 10 in OBP and SLG. But keep tooting that strikeout horn.

He may read it....but I bet you won't like his response

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 09:58 PM
2 outs 2-1 coount to Byrd.

TRF
05-24-2005, 09:59 PM
he won't, and even if he did, he'd be wrong. The disdain in his voice is obvious. Marty has his favorites, and Dunn isn't one of them.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
Weathers walked Byrd. Baerga pinch hittng for Guzman.
Runners on the corners with two outs.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
Weathers :rant:

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
..the ghost of Graves can be felt at GABP....

tie game

flyer85
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
You mean they could get worse?if the front office actually believes the moves they made have really helped this team then the actions they take in the near future could do irreparable damage.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
Tie game.

CincyRedsFan30
05-24-2005, 10:01 PM
Why is Wagner not getting a shot at closing again?

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 10:01 PM
Baerga pinch hit single. RBI Game tied.

Runners on the corners, still two outs.

Caveat Emperor
05-24-2005, 10:01 PM
The Cincinnati Reds: SSDD.

flyer85
05-24-2005, 10:01 PM
Weathers blew a save, I thought the release of Graves fixed the problem.

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 10:02 PM
Top of the 9th:

Mercker still pitching. :dunno:

Johnson leads off with a base hit. Oops! (WAS has 10 hits tonight? Yikes.)

Now Weathers is coming in.

Guillen grounds out to Dunn, Johnson goes to second. 1 out.

Castilla grounds out to 2B, Johnson goes to third. 2 outs.

Byrd walks. Men at the corners, 2 outs ...

Carlos Baerga in to PH for Guzman. And he gets a hit. BOO. Tie game as Johnson scores. Byrd goes to third base. :thumbdown Harris in to PR for Baerga.

Bennett Ks for the third out.

All tied up at 3.

FYI: Clemens had to leave the game in the 5th because of a sore groin.

FlyingPig
05-24-2005, 10:03 PM
Weather came in long enough to lose the lead..

this is becoming way too common in the 9th inning for the Reds..

TRF
05-24-2005, 10:04 PM
Wagner isn't getting the shot because he falls in love with his slider. When hitters know it is coming they can lay off it. When he learns to trust his fastball more, he'll get that shot. takes some maturity. I think we sometimes forget just how young Wags still is.

SandyD
05-24-2005, 10:05 PM
Miley has decided that what this team needs is the excitement of a bottom of the 9th walk-off something to other. ;)

PuffyPig
05-24-2005, 10:06 PM
Hard to balme Wethers too badly when he comes in with a runner on base already, and gets the 3 ground balls he needs to get out of it. Sometimes the ball finds the hole; it's hard to be perfect, and that's what Weathers had to be. He certainly looked a lot better than Graves does when he blows a save.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 10:06 PM
We lose this game I blame it all on the chairs

CincyRedsFan30
05-24-2005, 10:08 PM
Wagner isn't getting the shot because he falls in love with his slider. When hitters know it is coming they can lay off it. When he learns to trust his fastball more, he'll get that shot. takes some maturity. I think we sometimes forget just how young Wags still is.

I don't agree with the thinking. I think it's time for Wagner to take his lumps. Sure he might struggle, but he can also get out of tough situations easier than most of our other pitchers.

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 10:08 PM
Miley has decided that what this team needs is the excitement of a bottom of the 9th walk-off something to other. ;)

LuLo almost made that come true.

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 10:09 PM
Bottom of the 9th:

Carroll at SS, Harris at 2B. Cordero still pitching.

LaRue flies out. 1 out.

L.Lopez almost hit one out, but it was caught. 2 out.

Valentin is PHing for Weathers. He pops up, 3 outs.

Coffey warming in the bullpen. Time for free baseball!!

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 10:10 PM
Quick question. Did they really remove the chairs from the clubhouse?

TRF
05-24-2005, 10:11 PM
I don't agree with the thinking. I think it's time for Wagner to take his lumps. Sure he might struggle, but he can also get out of tough situations easier than most of our other pitchers.

I'm not saying i agree with it either, but i bet it is the reason. I'd ease him into the role.

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 10:12 PM
Quick question. Did they really remove the chairs from the clubhouse?

Yes.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 10:13 PM
Wagner isn't getting the shot because he falls in love with his slider. When hitters know it is coming they can lay off it. When he learns to trust his fastball more, he'll get that shot. takes some maturity. I think we sometimes forget just how young Wags still is.

Is that any different than Graves relying on his unsinking sinker, curve ball that spins and 85 mph fastball?

CincyRedsFan30
05-24-2005, 10:13 PM
Well, we are talking about the Reds here, so it is certainly reasonable to believe that they might be using faulty thinking.

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 10:14 PM
We lose this game I blame it all on the chairs

You can't because they're gone now.

You can only blame it on the absence of the chairs.;)

DJF33
05-24-2005, 10:15 PM
Wilkerson doubles with one out.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 10:16 PM
Griffey wins this one...

DJF33
05-24-2005, 10:16 PM
Carrol(sp) lines out to Kearns 2 outs

TRF
05-24-2005, 10:16 PM
Is that any different than Graves relying on his unsinking sinker, curve ball that spins and 85 mph fastball?

I believe Graves is an 8 year veteran.

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 10:16 PM
You can't because they're gone now.

You can only blame it on the absence of the chairs.;)

We need the chairs! ;)

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 10:16 PM
I believe Graves is an 8 year veteran.

That's beside the point ;)

Caveat Emperor
05-24-2005, 10:16 PM
You can't because they're gone now.

You can only blame it on the absence of the chairs.;)

If I'm Griffey, I use my multi-millions to order a new chair every day of the week. Have it delivered, wait for Miley to remove it, then order another one...

Eventually we'll show up at the ballpark and find that all the Scout seats now have reclining functions. :laugh:

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 10:16 PM
Bergolla will hit a walkoff homer in the 10th. ;)

DJF33
05-24-2005, 10:16 PM
Griffey wins this one...

Please be right! :beerme:

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 10:18 PM
If I'm Griffey, I use my multi-millions to order a new chair every day of the week. Have it delivered, wait for Miley to remove it, then order another one...

Eventually we'll show up at the ballpark and find that all the Scout seats now have reclining functions. :laugh:

That would be a riot :laugh:

Better...order a chair for each team member but only get rocking chairs for the coaching stuff :D

DJF33
05-24-2005, 10:18 PM
Johnson grounds out to 2nd.

Here come the Reds!

RosieRed
05-24-2005, 10:18 PM
Top of the 10th:

Coffey is indeed pitching.

Majewski is PHing for Cordero. He's 0-fer-4 in his career. He Ks, 1 out.

Wilkerson gets a double. Uh-oh.

Carroll lines out to Kearns, 2 outs.

Johnson grounds out to Bergolla, 3 outs.

CrackerJack
05-24-2005, 10:18 PM
I can't believe they took Adam and Kenny's toys away! :)

TRF
05-24-2005, 10:18 PM
CBS Sportsline has finally gotten to the top of the 10th. I bet washington strands a runner. :)

SteelSD
05-24-2005, 10:19 PM
If I'm Griffey, I use my multi-millions to order a new chair every day of the week. Have it delivered, wait for Miley to remove it, then order another one...

Eventually we'll show up at the ballpark and find that all the Scout seats now have reclining functions. :laugh:

LOL! Truly funny stuff, Caveat! :laugh:

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 10:21 PM
Yes.

A guy on the reds board took a tour of the clubhouse and posted some pics on a website. He had a few of Dunns chair. It's a nice chair. I was going to post a picture of it yesterday but he had already removed the pics. I did steal a good one for my current wallpaper though. No. It wasn't of Dunn's chair. :)

DJF33
05-24-2005, 10:22 PM
Lead off single for Freel.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2005, 10:22 PM
NO STEALING!!!!!!

KronoRed
05-24-2005, 10:22 PM
Lopez bunting?!?


...and what a GOOD idea it is..better then a pop up



;)

Reds Nd2
05-24-2005, 10:23 PM
Freel's on first again. This is more exciting than Graves on the mound. Woo Hoo!

OnBaseMachine
05-24-2005, 10:23 PM
Freel singles. Sweet! He gets another opportunity to get caught stealing again!

Please don't bunt here!