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OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 06:58 PM
I have to give Miley credit, he's dumber that I thought. Batting Bergolla ahead of Dunn again? Wow.


PITTSBURGH AT CINCINNATI -- LINEUPS

PITTSBURGH CINCINNATI
AVG HR RBI AVG HR RBI
Matt Lawton RF .251 4 19 Ryan Freel CF .333 1 3
Tike Redman CF .228 2 11 William Bergolla 2B .138 0 1
Jason Bay LF .280 10 22 Felipe Lopez SS .307 6 21
Daryle Ward 1B .263 8 21 Austin Kearns RF .261 5 24
Rob Mackowiak 3B .333 3 15 Adam Dunn 1B .247 13 25
Jose Castillo 2B .321 2 9 Luis Lopez 3B .300 0 1
Jack Wilson SS .191 2 9 Jason Romano LF .000 0 0
Humberto Cota C .242 2 11 Javier Valentin C .186 0 4
Oliver Perez LHP .071 0 0 Elizardo Ramirez RHP .000 0 0
(2-4, 7.50) (0-2, 4.80)

RBA
05-26-2005, 07:00 PM
I have to give Miley credit, he's dumber that I thought. Batting Bergolla ahead of Dunn again? Wow.

Well, he does have Luis Lopez to provide protection for him. If Dunn batted higher Luis Lopez wouldn't be able to protect him.

pedro
05-26-2005, 07:00 PM
That is a bizzare piece of work.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 07:01 PM
If Oliver Perez throws Dunn a strike tonight he's stupid. I would intentionally walk him everytime.

Why didn't they call EE up to get him some atbats while Randa is hurt? Oh nevermind, that would be the smart thing to do. I forgot this was the Reds.

Red Leader
05-26-2005, 07:02 PM
Worst. Lineup. Possible.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 07:03 PM
Lineup translation:

Freel
Pitcher
Lopez
Kearns
Dunn
Pitcher
Pitcher
Pitcher
Pitcher

creek14
05-26-2005, 07:06 PM
See OnBaseMachines avatar? The one where Dunn and Kearns look like they are going "huh?" They just got a look at this line-up.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-26-2005, 07:08 PM
that's pathetic...like he drew names from dunns cowboy hat or something.

PEE YOOO.

westofyou
05-26-2005, 07:10 PM
20 years ago tonight.


Cincinnati Reds AB R H RBI BB SO PO A
Milner cf 3 0 2 0 1 0 4 0
Rose 1b 4 0 0 0 0 0 8 1
Parker rf 4 2 1 1 0 1 4 0
Knicely c 3 0 2 1 0 0 2 1
Cedeno pr 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Van Gorder c 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1
Redus lf 4 0 0 0 0 1 2 1
Concepcion ss 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 0
Krenchicki 3b 3 0 0 0 0 2 0 2
Foley 2b 3 0 0 0 0 0 4 5
Stuper p 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1
Oester ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Franco p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Walker ph 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
Hume p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 31 2 6 2 2 6 27 12

Lost 7-2 to St. Louis

10 years ago tonight


Cincinnati Reds AB R H RBI BB SO PO A
D. Sanders cf 4 0 1 0 0 1 3 0
Larkin ss 5 0 2 2 0 0 0 3
Morris 1b 2 0 1 0 0 0 5 1
Harris 1b 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 0
Gant lf 2 1 1 0 2 0 1 0
R. Sanders rf 4 0 1 0 0 1 3 0
Taubensee c 3 0 1 1 1 0 7 0
Boone 2b 4 1 1 0 0 1 4 2
Branson 3b 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 4
Jarvis p 2 0 1 0 0 1 1 0
Howard ph 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
McElroy p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Carrasco p 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
Totals 35 4 11 4 3 5 27 10


Won 4-2 over St Louis

westofyou
05-26-2005, 07:12 PM
Lineup building is the Lincoln Log stage in the Reds clubhouse, Legos are too difficult for this bunch.

OldCat
05-26-2005, 07:13 PM
Well, teams are always beating us with scrubs, guys in slumps and pitchers getting hits. Maybe we can do the same today.

We should suit up the Pirate's players kids. I've seen father-son games and those kids are dynamite. They always blow out the dads.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 07:16 PM
I don't want to rain on anyones parade here, but you've got a lineup with Valentin, L. Lopez, Romano, and my boy Bergolla in it. Is there really any way to make it any better than it is?

Using Steels post, look at it like this. Instead of Miley splitting up his lefthanders, he's splitting up his pitchers. Come to think of it, Milton might be a better addition to the lineup. :)

OldCat
05-26-2005, 07:16 PM
Hey, there's a bright side to the fact Aurilia is coming back. They'll have to send down Romano.

Give RA this much - he hasn't made any outfielders sit.

Redny
05-26-2005, 07:21 PM
They will send down Bergolla

Tony Cloninger
05-26-2005, 07:26 PM
The logic of DO with Romano being "versatile" amazes me.

He can play 2B....maybe? If it's a very bad emergency ..maybe he can...but who really cares. How about bringing up the best player?

Matt700wlw
05-26-2005, 07:28 PM
Where's Griffey?

Redny
05-26-2005, 07:30 PM
O. Perez almost always shuts the Reds down (except for the last time). I don't think any of the lefties have hit him at all. Therefore Griffey sits, he has played alot (for him) lately and this is a good spot to rest him.

Matt700wlw
05-26-2005, 07:31 PM
O. Perez almost always shuts the Reds down (except for the last time). I don't think any of the lefties have hit him at all. Therefore Griffey sits, he has played alot (for him) lately and this is a good spot to rest him.

I guess that makes sense...but that lineup isn't very intimidating....

SirFelixCat
05-26-2005, 07:33 PM
Wow. Sad lineup construction. Dunn will not see a single pitch within 2 feet of the K zone. wow. :sadmonkey:

OldCat
05-26-2005, 07:33 PM
I guess that makes sense...but that lineup isn't very intimidating....

Well, its scaring ME!!!

Ravenlord
05-26-2005, 07:34 PM
hasn't all of Bergolla's hits come against hard throwing lefties? perhaps that's Miley's logic. however, it's still stupid. Miley is TRYING TO LOSE this game.

Puffy
05-26-2005, 07:35 PM
wow. A lineup with Bergolla, L. Lopez, Valentin and Romano and still Adam Dunn hits 5th.

I am utterly speechless. On the bright side I have O. Perez in my fantasy league.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 07:37 PM
Over/Under on Bunt-for-Hit attempts: 3

oneupper
05-26-2005, 07:37 PM
O. Perez almost always shuts the Reds down (except for the last time). I don't think any of the lefties have hit him at all. Therefore Griffey sits, he has played alot (for him) lately and this is a good spot to rest him.

Casey actually hits .500 against Perez, but Miley sat him out last time, too.
(ok..this time he's hurt).

smith288
05-26-2005, 07:37 PM
THis is beyond embarassing.... Fans should get their money back for this display of incompetence.

Matt700wlw
05-26-2005, 07:38 PM
THis is beyond embarassing.... Fans should get their money back for this display of incompetence.

What if they win?

Matt700wlw
05-26-2005, 07:38 PM
Romano goes yard twice...

...I will put the pipe down now...

oneupper
05-26-2005, 07:43 PM
vs. Perez:

Griffey 0 for 10
Romano 0 for 9
Kearns 2 for 7 1HR
Valentin 0 for 4
Freel 5 for 13 1HR
Dunn 3 for 11 1HR
WMP 6 for 19 2HR
Casey 11 for 22
LaRue 3 for 18 1 HR
Lopez 1 for 3

LvJ
05-26-2005, 07:46 PM
:laugh: :confused: :laugh: :confused: :laugh: :confused: :laugh: :confused:

oneupper
05-26-2005, 07:46 PM
What if they win?

If they win, it's worse, cause Miley will think this lineup WORKs and then use it ad infinitum.

smith288
05-26-2005, 07:51 PM
What if they win? Im pretty confident a loss is eminent tonight but if im wrong... a bling squirrel and a nut comes to mind.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 07:51 PM
hasn't all of Bergolla's hits come against hard throwing lefties? perhaps that's Miley's logic. however, it's still stupid. Miley is TRYING TO LOSE this game.

4 hits divided evenly but he does hit lefties better than righties. .222/.222/.222 Small sample size and all. ;)

membengal
05-26-2005, 08:04 PM
So, the gameplan is for a perfect game from the Lizard and Bergolla diving into a pitch and getting balked to second, third and home for a 1-0 Reds win then?

oneupper
05-26-2005, 08:07 PM
So, the gameplan is for a perfect game from the Lizard and Bergolla diving into a pitch and getting balked to second, third and home for a 1-0 Reds win then?

Nahh..two solo HRs by Kearns. Great defense wins it for the Lizard. 2-1!

Tony Cloninger
05-26-2005, 08:07 PM
That's how Drysdale and Maury Wills used to do it in the 60's. :thumbup:

Larkin Fan
05-26-2005, 08:08 PM
That lineup scares the crap out of me.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 08:10 PM
So, the gameplan is for a perfect game from the Lizard and Bergolla diving into a pitch and getting balked to second, third and home for a 1-0 Reds win then?

Your correct about the perfect game but Bergolla's gonna' try a sac bunt with Freel on 1st. Freel scores on the bunt. :)

Big Donkey
05-26-2005, 08:11 PM
Holy cow, is that lineup for real?! I just checked in from work... oh my, what a surprise. Dunn still 5th even with half the lineup composed of Z-Troop members. I'm sure everything I'm thinking has already been someone's sentimental contribution on here so I'll just leave the post as is and go back to work.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:13 PM
The perfect game last all of 3 pitches as Lawton lined a single to right.

Redman flies out to Freel.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:14 PM
The Lizard has fell behind in the count to the first 3 batters. He will get crushed if he continues to do that.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 08:18 PM
Elizardo's not fooling anyone right now.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:19 PM
2-0 Pirates

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:26 PM
Lopez homers to right!

Stud! 2-1 Pirates.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 08:27 PM
Lopez is :rockband:

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 08:27 PM
You can count the Shortstops on one hand who could hit that pitch out.

BANG! Lopez.

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:27 PM
Felipe Lopez has cemented himself as the starting SS. All he has done this years is progress and produce.

He'll be benched the day RA comes off the DL, i just know it.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:28 PM
Lopez has very good opposite field power. Hit that ball off the end of that bat into the Pirate bullpen.

Matt700wlw
05-26-2005, 08:28 PM
Lopez is blooming....kinda like Wily Mo did last year...

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:30 PM
Kearns and Dunn walk.

Perez threw Perez 1 strike that atbat...1 more than he should have.

Larkin Fan
05-26-2005, 08:31 PM
I'm really liking Lopez. His performance this year is further proof as to why he should be the starting shortstop and Auriliia should be shipped elsewhere.

Larkin Fan
05-26-2005, 08:32 PM
Kearns and Dunn walk.

We saw that one coming.

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:32 PM
This lineup construction is going to cost the reds at least 2-3 runs tonight. bank on that.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:32 PM
Luis Lopez steps in and K's.

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:35 PM
Man, If I were Jacob Cruz, I'd be pretty pissed about this lineup. Guy was the last ML player to start a game, Romano gets called up, what a few days ago, and gets a start.

I really don't give a crap about the lefty matchup when said lefty has a 7+ era.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:38 PM
There isn't a SS in the NL that I would take over Lopez. Barmes is a nice player and all, but I like Lopez better. Lopez has much better plate discipline.

Felipe leads all NL SS in OPS.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:40 PM
Oliver Perez singles with 2 outs.

Bergolla with a decent play to end the inning.

2-1 Pirates after 1-1/2

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:42 PM
Defensively, Bergolla has it all over D'lo.

Offensively... blech at this point.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:43 PM
Ray Romano steps in and pops out.

http://www.mirage.com/images/ent/ray_romano2.jpg

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:43 PM
Corky Romano flies out to center. 1 out.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:44 PM
Valentin flies out to Redman just short of the track.

The Lizard K's. 2-1 Buccos after 2.

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:44 PM
Valentin Romano's to center... 2 outs.

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:46 PM
Lizard K's. we go to the third, 2-1 Pirates.

RedlegNation
05-26-2005, 08:48 PM
Here's what I don't understand:

Dave Miley thinks that a complete stiff like Rich Aurilia is a better player than Felipe Lopez.

Yet tonight, Lopez is good enough to hit third ahead of Adam Dunn!

Sometimes I think Miley is just going through the motions. He has no idea what he's doing half the time, does he?

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:49 PM
Redman leads off the 3rd with a double off the wall in RCF.

Bay doubles in Redman, 3-1 Pirates. Still 0 outs.

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:50 PM
Tike (what a silly name) doubles to center.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:51 PM
Ward homers to right, 5-1 Pirates.

Mackowiak walks on 4 straight.

SirFelixCat
05-26-2005, 08:52 PM
Now we got'em where we want'em :thumbup:

Falls City Beer
05-26-2005, 08:52 PM
I told you this kid's got nuttin'.

Matt700wlw
05-26-2005, 08:53 PM
This one is starting off well...

M2
05-26-2005, 08:53 PM
I believe this has turned into what they call a beatdown. Ramirez is getting ripped out there.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 08:53 PM
Ok. I'd just like to ignore what's going on in the game right now because it appears that it's about to get brutal.

BUT...

I'm convinced that Ryan Freel has a mental "glitch" that will not allow him to release a baseball without it having to touch his glove at least once while it's in his possession.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:54 PM
After RW walks on 4 pitches, Castillo steps in and swings at the first pitch which was low. Double play on next pitch.

Jack Wilson doubles.

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:54 PM
wow. that happened quick.

lizard is teh suck.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 08:55 PM
The Bergolla man-love from the announcers is getting to the point of ridiculous.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 08:56 PM
OBM, we were discussing Dunn hitting in the 5th spot on a game thread the other day and it lead to how many times Dunn leads off an inning. Well, I stumbled on those splits today and this is how it shakes out. Just thought you might be curious. Only Freel has led off more innings than Dunn or Griffey.


Name # of times leading
off an inning (Total Plate Appearances)
Freel 58
Dunn 47
Griffey 47
D'Lo 41

M2
05-26-2005, 08:57 PM
I told you this kid's got nuttin'.

That's the Reds, always trying to french kiss a mirage.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 08:57 PM
Cota intentionally walked after the Wilson double.

Perez lays down a bunt single. Bases loaded.

TRF
05-26-2005, 08:58 PM
O freaking Perez singles.

oh, this is bad.

Falls City Beer
05-26-2005, 08:58 PM
If this were a problem with control, I'd say stick with him. But everything that goes over the plate with this kid gets pummeled. Mercilessly.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 08:59 PM
The Bergolla man-love from the announcers is getting to the point of ridiculous.

LOL I've been waiting for someone to say that about me. :laugh:

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:00 PM
OBM, we were discussing Dunn hitting in the 5th spot on a game thread the other day and it lead to how many times Dunn leads off an inning. Well, I stumbled on those splits today and this is how it shakes out. Just thought you might be curious. Only Freel has led off more innings than Dunn or Griffey.


Name # of times leading
off an inning (Total Plate Appearances)
Freel 58
Dunn 47
Griffey 47
D'Lo 41

Thanks for posting that.

That's closer that I thought. It seems like Dunn has led off more than that..guess not. I still want them to move him up in the order. There's no excuse for batting Dunn 5th. Especially tonight.

Joseph
05-26-2005, 09:00 PM
This got real ugly, real fast.

M2
05-26-2005, 09:01 PM
If this were a problem with control, I'd say stick with him. But everything that goes over the plate with this kid gets pummeled. Mercilessly.

Interesting stat tossed out by the Bucs broadcasters, Ramirez held RH hitters to a .205 BA in AAA, but LH hitters touched him at a .338 clip.

TRF
05-26-2005, 09:01 PM
Keisler in for the lizard.

lets hope he can take one for the team here. This pen needs a rest.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:03 PM
Keisler replaces Ramirez.

Lawton walks to make it 6-1. Redman groundout to Dunn ends the inning.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 09:07 PM
Thanks for posting that.

That's closer that I thought. It seems like Dunn has led off more than that..guess not. I still want them to move him up in the order. There's no excuse for batting Dunn 5th. Especially tonight.

You might remember that I didn't have a problem with Dunn hitting 3-4-5, but after seeing that, I can say I've changed my mind about him hitting 5th. ;)

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:08 PM
Freel K's on 3 pitches. 1 down.

TRF
05-26-2005, 09:09 PM
nothing gives a struggling pitcher confidence like facing the reds.

Not because they are an easy out. on the contrary.

It's that they get a 5 run cushion real quick.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:10 PM
Bergolla fouls off the bunt. That's 1, Steel.

William K's on a 2-2 pitch in the dirt.

And Lopez chases a 56 footer for strike 3.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 09:12 PM
Bergolla fouls off the bunt. That's 1, Steel.

William K's on a 2-2 pitch in the dirt.

We'll count it as one thus far, but Romano showed bunt in his first AB as well- just decided not to offer at the pitch- so it's really more like 1.5. ;)

Puffy
05-26-2005, 09:15 PM
The Pirates announcers were just talking about O. Perez and said "not to take anything away from the Reds hitters, but Perez is not facing Edmonds, Rolen, Pujols and Sanders, he is facing Freel, Bergolla, L. Lopez, Valentin and Romano - if he has even decent stuff he should have an excellent outing"

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 09:15 PM
Is anyone watching Oliver Perez closely? It almost looks like he starts his wind up before toeing the rubber on alot of pitches. Anyone else notice this or is it just me?

Joseph
05-26-2005, 09:17 PM
"Special friend"?

smith288
05-26-2005, 09:17 PM
The Pirates announcers were just talking about O. Perez and said "not to take anything away from the Reds hitters, but Perez is not facing Edmonds, Rolen, Pujols and Sanders, he is facing Freel, Bergolla, L. Lopez, Valentin and Romano - if he has even decent stuff he should have an excellent outing" If you put Elizardo to pitch against us, he would have an excellent outting.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 09:18 PM
The Pirates announcers were just talking about O. Perez and said "not to take anything away from the Reds hitters, but Perez is not facing Edmonds, Rolen, Pujols and Sanders, he is facing Freel, Bergolla, L. Lopez, Valentin and Romano - if he has even decent stuff he should have an excellent outing"

Well, those Pirates announcers are obviously idiots then.

I mean, Bergolla, Luis Lopez, Valentin, and Romano are all solid citizens, work very hard, and none has ever owned a shiatsu massage recliner.

So they gotta' be good, don't they?? :dunno:

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:18 PM
Keisler throws a 1-2-3 inning.

6-1 Buccos after 3-1/2

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:22 PM
Kearns takes strike 3 called. Borderline call.

Dunn takes a ball, strike called on a low pitch, ball inside, strike 2 swinging, ball 3 away, ball 4. Nice job of laying off that tough slider.

Puffy
05-26-2005, 09:23 PM
Dunn walks again. Shocker.

smith288
05-26-2005, 09:24 PM
You might as well watch the UPN or the Food Channel after Dunn walks... Zzzzzzz

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:24 PM
Luis Lopez continues to swing at everything under the sun. 2 down.

Romano singles to center.

Puffy
05-26-2005, 09:28 PM
Perez isn't even looking at Dunn - he could take third easily if he so chose. Down by 5, you don't do it, but still.

RedlegJake
05-26-2005, 09:30 PM
Casey. Pena. Griffey. All 3 out at the same time. Well, I've become split about winning anyway - if this team miraculously began to win at even a .500 clip O'Brien would claim it was all coming together and we'd be stuck with him and his regime. Even Miley might not get fired then. I hate wanting to lose but if its the way to get rid of OB, Gullett and Miley quicker then I'll just count as each loss as another step to post-OB.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:30 PM
Mackowiak robs Valentin of extra bases and possibly 2 runs.

6-1 Pirates after 3.

Anyone out there need PBP? I'll keep on going if needed.

smith288
05-26-2005, 09:44 PM
not me, thanks. This thread needs cpr though. lol

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:44 PM
There's bad bunt attempt #2.5

traderumor
05-26-2005, 09:45 PM
I just got home to see that lineup. Every one who paid their hard earned money to get in tonight ought to demand a refund, or at least a reduction to AAA ticket prices. Geesh, I don't care if Sandy Koufax is out there, Luis Lopez, Jason Romano, Javier Valentin, and William Bergolla should never be in the same lineup in anything above a B game in Spring Training. :bang: :angry: :bang: :angry: :bang: :angry: :bang: :angry: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:

That isn't even acceptable for the second game of a DH

smith288
05-26-2005, 09:47 PM
I just got home to see that lineup. Every one who paid their hard earned money to get in tonight ought to demand a refund, or at least a reduction to AAA ticket prices. Geesh, I don't care if Sandy Koufax is out there, Luis Lopez, Jason Romano, Javier Valentin, and William Bergolla should never be in the same lineup in anything above a B game in Spring Training. :bang: :angry: :bang: :angry: :bang: :angry: :bang: :angry: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:

That isn't even acceptable for the second game of a DH Welcome to our pain TR

Puffy
05-26-2005, 09:52 PM
On the bright side, this should be Perez's last inning. He missed two starts, only threw 96 his last start, and is over that 96 pitches now.

L. Lopez and Romano vs. the Bullpen!! gO rEDz!!!

letsgojunior
05-26-2005, 09:52 PM
I haven't been able to follow things the past few days - is Junior hurt? I saw Casey jammed his shoulder, but what is up with Griffey?

SirFelixCat
05-26-2005, 09:53 PM
Anyone out there need PBP? I'll keep on going if needed.


:raiseshand: at work...please and thank you. :beerme:

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:54 PM
I haven't been able to follow things the past few days - is Junior hurt? I saw Casey jammed his shoulder, but what is up with Griffey?

I think they are just giving Griffey a night off. He's been playing a lot lately.

Puffy
05-26-2005, 09:54 PM
I haven't been able to follow things the past few days - is Junior hurt? I saw Casey jammed his shoulder, but what is up with Griffey?

Apparently, he needed a rest because of his slump. Of course he was on base five times yesterday which would indicate to me that his slump was over, but what do I know.

LvJ
05-26-2005, 09:54 PM
I haven't been able to follow things the past few days - is Junior hurt? I saw Casey jammed his shoulder, but what is up with Griffey? Randa and Casey are slightly hurt. Griffey is getting the day off against Perez.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 09:54 PM
He's just getting a blow tonight with a lefty on the mound.

Sorry, I know it's juvenile but I crack up everytime Miley says that.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:55 PM
:raiseshand: at work...please and thank you. :beerme:

You ask for it, ya got it.

Lawton doubles to leadoff the 6th.

I'll probably edit each atbat in an inning into one post to avoid padding my post count.

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 09:55 PM
I've arrived, it's time we start to blow these guys out :cool:

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 09:56 PM
Top of the 6th

6-2 Pirates

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 09:57 PM
Lawton doubles.

Redman popped out, 1 out in the 6th.

Bay walks.

Ward walks to load the bases.

-Mackowiak rbi single, 7-2 Bucs

Castillo chases a pitch up around his eyes, 2 down.

Jack Wilson flies out.

7-2 Bucs after 5-1/2

Eric_Davis
05-26-2005, 10:04 PM
There goes the run of good pitching (9 runs given up last 3 games).

Year after year we used to at least have a good bullpen. We have nothing now.

We need to average 6 runs a game from our offense to be winners. But with half our starting lineup belonging in AAA and a manager that struggles with roster moves, that's not going to happen.

We need a miracle!!!

They do happen.

Let us hope the Will is in favor of the REDS.

Eric_Davis
05-26-2005, 10:08 PM
Apparently, he needed a rest because of his slump. Of course he was on base five times yesterday which would indicate to me that his slump was over, but what do I know.

Let's just cool a guy off when he's hot.

Miley would blow a sure thing on a date with a porn star.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 10:08 PM
Perez still in

Dunn swings through a meatball, ball high, foul, ball 2 away, groundout. Perez gave him a ball on a tee on the first pitch. That's a pitch he puts in the seats when he's on.

Luis Lopez walks.

Meadows replaces Perez.

Romano fouls out, 2 down.

SirFelixCat
05-26-2005, 10:08 PM
WHo's pitching for us today?

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 10:09 PM
WHo's pitching for us today?

Elizardo Ramirez started. Keisler pitching now.

Puffy
05-26-2005, 10:10 PM
Josh Fogg goes tomorrow for the Pirates. In 9 career starts against the Reds he is only 6-1.

*sigh*

traderumor
05-26-2005, 10:12 PM
The Pittsburgh lumber company, coming into the game next to last in runs (2 more than than the Astros), avg, , and OBA three from the bottom in slg....seven runs on eleven hits through six. Good to see things getting back to normal tonight, including a Bob Boone Sunday Special lineup. :thumbup:

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:12 PM
Just making my broom visible, in hopes it lights a fire under the Reds! :eek:

SC...the pitching line....

Cincinnati

IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
E. Ramirez 2.2 8 6 6 3 1 1 7.13
R. Keisler 3.1 3 1 1 3 4 0 1.69

Eric_Davis
05-26-2005, 10:13 PM
I guess Miley's just used to giving everybody Thursday's off. He's probably mad that he had to show up, so let's just put the scrubs in.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:14 PM
WHo's pitching for us today?

So far...



IP H BB SO R ER

Ramirez 2.2 8 6 6 3 1
Keisler 3.1 3 1 1 3 4

traderumor
05-26-2005, 10:14 PM
WHo's pitching for us today?We don't have any pitchers. I think we should petition the league to have one of those cages they use in BP when our guys are on the mound so someone doesn't get killed before the year's out.

Eric_Davis
05-26-2005, 10:15 PM
These are grown men in the prime of their lives. They're playing "Baseball". It's early in the season. They've had tons of days off. It's not even the Dog Days of August.

Starters don't need days off. If they do they're wimps.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 10:16 PM
Lloyd McClendon. :laugh:

Pirates have a 5 run lead in the 6th. He brings on Meadows to face one batter and then pulls him. Grabow coming in.

Valentin grounded out.

7-2 Pirates after 6 complete.

Puffy
05-26-2005, 10:16 PM
Up 7-2 and McClenton is doing the lefty/righty thing. Against Romano and Valentin no less.

Ugggghhhhhh, Miley vs. McClendon is like Raymond Babbit vs Corky from Life Goes On......

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:17 PM
I forgot to start Perez tonight :rant:

Eric_Davis
05-26-2005, 10:18 PM
We don't have any pitchers. I think we should petition the league to have one of those cages they use in BP when our guys are on the mound so someone doesn't get killed before the year's out.

There's several ex-Reds pitchers doing well around the league. Wonder why they can't pitch well while they're here?

Could there be something that's been consistently familiar to these pitchers?

traderumor
05-26-2005, 10:19 PM
I forgot to start Perez tonight :rant:Maybe that's what happened to Miley, he forgot to turn in his lineup, so the opponent got to pick the lineup.

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:19 PM
This lineup is something...Dunn outta change his name to 5 spot.

Eric_Davis
05-26-2005, 10:20 PM
Up 7-2 and McClenton is doing the lefty/righty thing. Against Romano and Valentin no less.

Ugggghhhhhh, Miley vs. McClendon is like Raymond Babbit vs Corky from Life Goes On......

That's funny, because every time I see the name Romano, I think of Corky Romano.

Eric_Davis
05-26-2005, 10:21 PM
How about if Milton pinch-hits. His .250 average is better than most of the REDS. Plus he had a Double and Single Monday with an RBI and a run scored.

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:23 PM
Can't they let the chair and desk talk go? :confused:

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:23 PM
George and Chris talking about the infamous chair

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 10:23 PM
LOL! Even the announcers are making fun of the stupidity surrounding the massage chairs. One line:

"C'mon. Did they blame Enron on the coffee machines???"

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:24 PM
Can't they let the chair and desk talk go? :confused:

Not until they are home safe :D

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:25 PM
Not until they are home safe :D

Do we get runs for them? If so, they need to round third and head for home....NOW! :p: ;)

Larkin Fan
05-26-2005, 10:26 PM
LOL! Even the announcers are making fun of the stupidity surrounding the massage chairs. One line:

"C'mon. Did they blame Enron on the coffee machines???"

:laugh: That's great.

Still gotta love the idea of taking out frustrations against a team on an inanimate object!

traderumor
05-26-2005, 10:26 PM
LOL! Even the announcers are making fun of the stupidity surrounding the massage chairs. One line:

"C'mon. Did they blame Enron on the coffee machines???"Of course, the announcers aren't the only one that won't let it go ;)

So, I'll repeat as well, it is a strawman argument to say the whole chair thing is Miley equating that with losing.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:27 PM
Can't they let the chair and desk talk go? :confused:

Whats up with the desk? I missed that and I've got FSN Pittsburgh tonight.

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:27 PM
Lawton heading for the cycle. Single, double and homer I believe?

Matt700wlw
05-26-2005, 10:27 PM
Boy, those roster moves really shook this team up, didn't they?

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:28 PM
We need a 6 run hit.

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 10:28 PM
If I'm a Reds pitcher, I drill Lawton in the ribs next atbat. I've heard of posing on homeruns, but that was ridiculous. Almost hit the catcher/ump with the bat after tossing it.

Larkin Fan
05-26-2005, 10:28 PM
Lawton heading for the cycle. Single, double and homer I believe?

Unfortunately, for him, he still has the hardest one to get left.

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:29 PM
Whats up with the desk? I missed that and I've got FSN Pittsburgh tonight.

I think it was LaRue's desk was removed as well.

Graves had a desk in there, a huge one, when I went through one of the clubhouse tours. I don't know if he shared it with Jason and that was the one taken out when Graves left or if this was a second desk.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:29 PM
:laugh: That's great.

Still gotta love the idea of taking out frustrations against a team on an inanimate object!

I've done it before. Haven't you ever kicked a chair, thrown a cat, or vice versa after a bad play? :laugh:

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:30 PM
I've done it before. Haven't you ever kicked a chair, thrown a cat, or vice versa after a bad play? :laugh:

I am dialing PETA as I type! :eek: :p:

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:31 PM
Yeah..but I didn't take another persons chair out :D

traderumor
05-26-2005, 10:31 PM
I think it was LaRue's desk was removed as well.

Graves had a desk in there, a huge one, when I went through one of the clubhouse tours. I don't know if he shared it with Jason and that was the one taken out when Graves left or if this was a second desk.Is that the second desk theory?

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 10:31 PM
Of course, the announcers aren't the only one that won't let it go ;)

So, I'll repeat as well, it is a strawman argument to say the whole chair thing is Miley equating that with losing.

Oh, go argue with Chris Welsh. I'm just reporting what I heard.;)

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:32 PM
Ok, Grande needs to be slapped. *Coming into tonight you would think it was the Reds that had the offense going*.

HAS HE LOOKED AT THE LINEUP???? Not even a HINT of the lineup we have had the 3 games we previously WON! :bang:

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:32 PM
I think it was LaRue's desk was removed as well.

Graves had a desk in there, a huge one, when I went through one of the clubhouse tours. I don't know if he shared it with Jason and that was the one taken out when Graves left or if this was a second desk.

I saw a picture of Graves desk. I just hadn't heard anything about a desk being moved. Thanks.

How did Dunn's memorial to Graves end up? Have you heard?

Puffy
05-26-2005, 10:33 PM
Cruz singles. Its rally time!!

Where is Reggie when you need him......

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:33 PM
I am dialing PETA as I type! :eek: :p:

Hat. I meant hat. :D

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:33 PM
Is that the second desk theory?

The third one is out in the grassy knoll beyond the centerfield fence. :p:

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:35 PM
I say Bergolla a lot different then everyone apparently :help:

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:35 PM
Come on Bergolla. Hit 'em where they ain't.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 10:36 PM
I say Bergolla a lot different then everyone apparently :help:

"You say 'erbs', we say "herbs"...because there's a freakin' 'H' in it!" --Eddie Izzard

OnBaseMachine
05-26-2005, 10:36 PM
Horrible strike 1 call on Felipe. That ball was at his ankles.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:36 PM
Note to Bergolla: Working the count ain't a bad thing.

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:37 PM
How did Dunn's memorial to Graves end up? Have you heard?

How DID they go?? HA! You act as if the memorials are over!!! :laugh:

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 10:38 PM
Note to Bergolla: Working the count ain't a bad thing.

He's going to go back to AAA and convince his teammates that they don't throw balls out of the strike zone in the Show.

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:39 PM
He's going to go back to AAA and convince his teammates that they don't throw balls out of the strike zone in the Show.

Tell EE not to listen :help:

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:40 PM
How DID they go?? HA! You act as if the memorials are over!!! :laugh:

All I heard was Dunn had hung up a Graves jersey. Hadn't heard anything else but if what Dunn supposedly said is true, I'm a little concerned about the atmosphere in the clubhouse.

KittyDuran
05-26-2005, 10:41 PM
:laugh: That's great.

Still gotta love the idea of taking out frustrations against a team on an inanimate object!When Marty had his Elvis shrine in the booth - didn't the players try to hit it - and finally he was told to take it down?

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:41 PM
He's going to go back to AAA and convince his teammates that they don't throw balls out of the strike zone in the Show.

You mean they do? ;)

BCubb2003
05-26-2005, 10:44 PM
LOL! Even the announcers are making fun of the stupidity surrounding the massage chairs. One line:

"C'mon. Did they blame Enron on the coffee machines???"

Actually they did, sort of...

http://www.boingboing.net/2002/02/23/enron_was_a_real_non.html

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:45 PM
Reds ND, The article that mentioned the desk is here:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050525/SPT04/505250378/1071

I have not heard an update about the jersey. He said he was not taking it down...we'll see. If he needs another one to hang up I have mine...it is even autographed! :laugh: :laugh:

I should hang it up on the flag pole on our sundeck here at the apt complex. There is a Reds flag hanging there now...Dunn would crap if he came home and pulled in the lot to see Danny's jersey hanging over him. :laugh: :laugh:

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 10:47 PM
Do it TD :lol:

traderumor
05-26-2005, 10:47 PM
Oh, go argue with Chris Welsh. I'm just reporting what I heard.;)No way, I wouldn't stand a chance. I mean, we are talking about the guy who discovered rally killing lead off homers :)

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:52 PM
Reds ND, The article that mentioned the desk is here:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050525/SPT04/505250378/1071

I have not heard an update about the jersey. He said he was not taking it down...we'll see. If he needs another one to hang up I have mine...it is even autographed! :laugh: :laugh:

I should hang it up on the flag pole on our sundeck here at the apt complex. There is a Reds flag hanging there now...Dunn would crap if he came home and pulled in the lot to see Danny's jersey hanging over him. :laugh: :laugh:

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. I don't know Dunn but from reading the things he says, I'd bet he would get a big laugh out of it. His self-depricating sense of humour always leaves me laughing.

Did he ever sell that hideous bike of his? Tell him to get a kick-starter put on his next one. :laugh: :laugh:

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 10:53 PM
Krono, I don't know how he would take that! :laugh: He might try to get me evicted! :p:

You think he is running toward Creek here:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoom.pbs&Site=AB&Date=20050525&Category=SPT04&ArtNo=505250378&Ref=AR&Profile=1071

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 10:54 PM
No way, I wouldn't stand a chance. I mean, we are talking about the guy who discovered rally killing lead off homers :)

Exactly. However, if you broached the subject by relaying the position you hold to Welsh, you two would become so entwined in argument that you'd be as difficult to separate as two teens tongue kissing with braces on.

Someone would have to come in and feed both of you through straws and, eventually, bring in the jaws of life to pull you apart.

I'd buy a ticket to that event and gleefully consume malt beverages while snacking on buttered popcorn and Cheetos. I'd shoot spitballs and throw unpopped kernels at both of you.

Because Chairgate is silly and it involves silly people doing silly things.

And it should be treated as such. :D

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 10:58 PM
FSN Pittsburgh guys just said FeLo was one of the best in the game!

traderumor
05-26-2005, 10:59 PM
Just having this many bad players on the roster at one time is bad enough, but putting them all in the lineup on the same night is just unacceptable. Luis Lopez has no business collecting a major league paycheck even for a day, esp. in lieu of the ignorance of Jimenez rotting, oops I mean getting his head straight :rolleyes: down in AA. Valentin is a disgrace to fat boys everywhere. Bergolla needs to at least get his first whisker before being in the lineup for a week straight. Romano? It's like a skin tag, just all of a sudden there it is and it won't go away. Between the bench and the pitching staff, we barely have half a dozen legit major leaguer on the roster. And didn't I type this same crap last year? Why is it still true?

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 11:00 PM
FSN Pittsburgh guys just said FeLo was one of the best in the game!

Jeter better look out...He might be in pin stripes by years end! :p:

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 11:00 PM
Could be worse.....look at some lineups from 01

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 11:01 PM
Jeter better look out...He might be in pin stripes by years end! :p:
That's a terrible thing to think about Felo..a yankee?!? EWWWW ;)

traderumor
05-26-2005, 11:01 PM
Exactly. However, if you broached the subject by relaying the position you hold to Welsh, you two would become so entwined in argument that you'd be as difficult to separate as two teens tongue kissing with braces on.

Someone would have to come in and feed both of you through straws and, eventually, bring in the jaws of life to pull you apart.

I'd buy a ticket to that event and gleefully consume malt beverages while snacking on buttered popcorn and Cheetos. I'd shoot spitballs and throw unpopped kernels at both of you.

Because Chairgate is silly and it involves silly people doing silly things.

And it should be treated as such. :DI think that it would be more exciting than watching this lineup tonight. Four hits, geesh, how can that be?

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:02 PM
Jeter better look out...He might be in pin stripes by years end! :p:

Don't even joke about that. I'll have to negatize you. :p:

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 11:03 PM
Don't even joke about that. I'll have to negatize you. :p:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Thanks BTW. :) :thumbup:

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 11:03 PM
Joe Randa up to bat

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:04 PM
Romano is 2 for 4 tonight. :dancingco

Randa pinch hitting.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:05 PM
Joe Randa up to bat

Rest did him good.

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 11:05 PM
Woo Hooo!!

Randa gets a double and we scored!

A grand slam and a half and we get this one! :thumbup:

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 11:05 PM
8-4 bad guys

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 11:06 PM
8-4 runner on 3rd! 1 out

KittyDuran
05-26-2005, 11:06 PM
Exactly. However, if you broached the subject by relaying the position you hold to Welsh, you two would become so entwined in argument that you'd be as difficult to separate as two teens tongue kissing with braces on.

Someone would have to come in and feed both of you through straws and, eventually, bring in the jaws of life to pull you apart.

I'd buy a ticket to that event and gleefully consume malt beverages while snacking on buttered popcorn and Cheetos. I'd shoot spitballs and throw unpopped kernels at both of you.

Because Chairgate is silly and it involves silly people doing silly things.

And it should be treated as such. :D

My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:06 PM
Come on Bergolla. Hit 'em where they ain't.

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 11:07 PM
2 outs. :(

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 11:07 PM
Bergolla in the 2-slot should be enough to automatically terminate a Manager.

In fact, it should be a rule.

SteelSD
05-26-2005, 11:08 PM
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Sounds purty!

And wet too.

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 11:08 PM
Why send Bergolla up? why not JR? or Milton?

Game Over.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:09 PM
Note to Chambliss: Tell the kid his glove is already there but he doesn't have to swing at every pitch.

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 11:10 PM
Did they just say 20,000 plus was the attendance and 8,000 were vouchers? Or was it the last game to use any of the 8,000 vouchers that were passed out?

M2
05-26-2005, 11:10 PM
Bergolla in the 2-slot should be enough to automatically terminate a Manager.

In fact, it should be a rule.

But he makes contact and he's fast. I bet he can lay down a bunt too.

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:11 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Thanks BTW. :) :thumbup:

NP Thanks again for the link.

KittyDuran
05-26-2005, 11:12 PM
Did they just say 20,000 plus was the attendance and 8,000 were vouchers? Or was it the last game to use any of the 8,000 vouchers that were passed out?It probably because it was a Kid Glove game...

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:12 PM
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Other than that, how's the arm?

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 11:16 PM
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

So...what was in that sprite tonight? :D

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:19 PM
Bergolla in the 2-slot should be enough to automatically terminate a Manager.

In fact, it should be a rule.

I'd ask if you wanna' fight or challenge you to a duel or something, for talking about my boy like that, but I agree.

Shoulda' kept D'Lo and let Bergolla play everyday at Louisville.

KittyDuran
05-26-2005, 11:21 PM
Other than that, how's the arm?Oh fine, except for the constant pain... ;)

KittyDuran
05-26-2005, 11:23 PM
So...what was in that sprite tonight? :DI think someone spiked the orange juice... :all_cohol When I read Steel's post I thought of a scene in Blazing Saddles... :)

KittyDuran
05-26-2005, 11:26 PM
So who going to tomorrow night's game???!!! Anybody? It's Bleacher Night! $4 tickets [tho' it's not on the Reds website to order yet].

Going on Saturday [part of season ticket package] and maybe on Sunday depending on how I feel.

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 11:28 PM
I'll be there Saturday. Are you going to GameDay afterward?

KittyDuran
05-26-2005, 11:30 PM
I'll be there Saturday. Are you going to GameDay afterward? I might... It's going to be a busy day - my family will be celebrating birthdays [including mine-late] around 2pm. So it will all depend on how tired I am after the game. So will you be there?

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:30 PM
Oh fine, except for the constant pain... ;)

It was just one game. The Reds will get 'em tomorrow. :)
Seriously, hope the arm feels better.

Matt700wlw
05-26-2005, 11:30 PM
I'll be there Saturday. Are you going to GameDay afterward?

I am actually....then to Mt. Adams! See everybody there!

TeamDunn
05-26-2005, 11:32 PM
Kitty, If you are going to be there (or if others are) then I will go. I just remembered that Creek Junior is going to the game Sat so I doubt Creek will go to the bar with him! :laugh:

Matt, If I am there I hope to see ya! :beerme:

Reds Nd2
05-26-2005, 11:32 PM
Anybody know when Oktoberfest is going to be held at Main Strausse Village this year?

KronoRed
05-26-2005, 11:33 PM
Hope you feel better Kitty :)


The Reds will crush the Pirates this weekend :cool:

traderumor
05-26-2005, 11:42 PM
It probably because it was a Kid Glove game...

That's it, Miley's not stupid, just confused and not in touch with reality. While writing out the lineup cards, he saw that it was a Kid Glove game, thought we were playing the Tigers in an exhibition game, so he played all the scrubs. How embarrassed he must have been when he walked out to hand in the lineup card, and there stood Lloyd McClendon rather than Ralph Houk, and there was real grass on the field, not astroturf, and Plummer wasn't his scrub catcher, but a fat guy with porn star mustache. Nevertheless, he could not let his schizophrenic delusions be revealed quite yet, Howsam has no idea. So he handed in the card anyhow. Amazingly, it had names like Romano, Bergolla, Lopez and Valentin instead of Chaney, Vuckovich, Armbrister and Plummer.

savafan
05-27-2005, 10:38 AM
I turned the game on FSN last night, saw the lineup and disgustedly turned it off. I'm really glad I didn't have tickets for a game like that.

TeamDunn
05-27-2005, 10:41 AM
If 8,000 people were there on vouchers...then only around 12,000 were "paying"???

That is what I was trying to figure out from the total they gave last night. :eek: