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OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 01:25 PM
PITTSBURGH AT CINCINNATI -- LINEUPS

PITTSBURGH CINCINNATI
AVG HR RBI AVG HR RBI
Freddy Sanchez 3B .297 0 6 Ryan Freel 2B .309 1 4
Tike Redman CF .220 2 11 Felipe Lopez SS .307 8 25
Jason Bay LF .294 11 25 Sean Casey 1B .316 2 21
Ty Wigginton 1B .198 5 11 Ken Griffey Jr CF .254 6 28
Jose Castillo 2B .322 2 10 Adam Dunn LF .247 14 26
Michael Restovich RF .265 1 3 Austin Kearns RF .241 5 24
Humberto Cota C .253 3 14 Rich Aurilia 3B .198 3 12
Jack Wilson SS .198 2 9 Jason Larue C .216 2 13
Kip Wells RHP .182 0 0 Brandon Claussen LHP .000 0 0
(3-3, 3.60) (1-3, 4.33)

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 01:29 PM
...better than hitting 2nd...

Tony Cloninger
05-29-2005, 01:30 PM
Picked a fine time to have Randa get hurt......an excuse to play RA.

I would still bat him 8th (9th if Milton is pitching)

Larkin Fan
05-29-2005, 01:42 PM
I'm glad to see that Felipe didn't get knocked out of the lineup for Aurilia's return. But I'd still much rather see a lineup that didn't have Aurilia's name in it at all.

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 01:49 PM
They sure didn't waste any time getting Aurilia back in the lineup. DM says Randa's getting the day off so he can play in Houston on Monday.

RosieRed
05-29-2005, 01:51 PM
Yuck.

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 01:51 PM
So, who had Rich Aurillia starting on his first day back in the pool?

:bang:

Larkin Fan
05-29-2005, 01:53 PM
So, who had Rich Aurillia starting on his first day back in the pool?

:bang:

99.9% of Redszone?

Big Klu
05-29-2005, 02:15 PM
Folks, it makes sense that Randa gets the day off on a day game after a night game, especially since his foot problem is still noticable. (Several people, including Marty, have commented on his hobbling when he runs.) So someone has to fill in--either Rich Aurilia or Luis Lopez. I agree with what others--I think it was Steel and WOY--have said that you don't want to call up Encarnacion too soon and start his arbitration clock. So you have to play one of the utility infielders. And as long as Aurilia is being used as a utility infielder--which is the role we had all envisioned for him when he signed here--I have no problem with him playing.

Fullboat
05-29-2005, 02:17 PM
Aurillia must have something written in his contract.....Like play me more or pay me more. :bang:

Raisor
05-29-2005, 02:17 PM
"The Reds have been without two really important players for awhile, Rich Aurillia and WMP"-Pirates Announcer.

Where's Grande and Welsh when you need them?

Is EVERY announcer in baseball a complete moron?

M2
05-29-2005, 02:18 PM
The upside is the Bucs have two Aurilia's in the lineup today, Wigginton and Wilson. It's like the $1.98 Beauty Show out there.

On a separate note, wouldn't it be standard old school management to bat the guy leading the NL in homers in the #4 slot? Miley's a gomer no matter what stick you measure him with.

Big Klu
05-29-2005, 02:20 PM
And one of the Pirates' Aurilias is hitting fourth.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 02:21 PM
-Sanchez grounded out to Aurilia.

-Claussen gets ahead of Redman 1-2, but walks him. Couldn't put him away.

-Bay popped out to Lopez

-Wiggington K's looking. Nice pitch!

Raisor
05-29-2005, 02:21 PM
Miley's a gomer no matter what stick you measure him with.

Let Miley sing "Back Home Again in Indiana" and bring Jim Nabors in to manage the Reds.

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 02:21 PM
"When Jason Bay sees a straight 88 MPH fastball on the inner third of the plate, he's going to put it in the seats."

Very astute observation from the FSN Pittsburgh guys.

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 02:22 PM
On a separate note, wouldn't it be standard old school management to bat the guy leading the NL in homers in the #4 slot? Miley's a gomer no matter what stick you measure him with.

You'd think.

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 02:25 PM
"When Jason Bay sees a straight 88 MPH fastball on the inner third of the plate, he's going to put it in the seats."

Well, that's great for Jason Bay! 88 MPH fastballs are the Reds specialty!

Raisor
05-29-2005, 02:26 PM
Jack Wilson, who the Reds should have traded Dunn for straight up this offseason according to a good friend of ours, is scrappy.

Chip R
05-29-2005, 02:27 PM
On a separate note, wouldn't it be standard old school management to bat the guy leading the NL in homers in the #4 slot? The Reds traded for Derrick Lee? ;)

Raisor
05-29-2005, 02:28 PM
Casey always looks like he's giving birth to an elephant when he's up to bat.

Raisor
05-29-2005, 02:29 PM
The moon will crash into the Earth in ten minutes as Casey takes a walk.

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 02:30 PM
The moon will crash into the Earth in ten minutes as Casey takes a walk.

Putting the slowest human being in Cincinnati on the bases to set up the DP.

M2
05-29-2005, 02:30 PM
The Reds traded for Derrick Lee? ;)

Doh!

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 02:32 PM
-Freel singles, goes to 2nd on error.

-Lopez out at first by 6 inches on a GB, Freel to 3rd

-Casey 4 pitch walk

-For the 2nd straight game, Griffey swings at a first pitch in the dirt after a walk. Not smart hitting Griff. Griff runs the count to 3-2, sac fly to left. 1-0 Reds.

-Dunn K's looking on a 0-2 pitch.He looked great at the plate Friday night, but is slumping again.

1-0 Reds after 1.

Chip R
05-29-2005, 02:34 PM
Doh!Your point was well taken, though.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 02:41 PM
Top 2

Bloop single, popout, groundout, flyout

1-0 Reds after 1-1/2

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 02:45 PM
According to Marty...Aurilia is back from Louisville after 1 game because he said so, and was reluctant to even do 1 game of rehab


Nice to see there's people in charge of this organization...

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 02:46 PM
-Kearns flyout to center. Rough series for Kearns(0-12, walk)

-Aurilia infield single

-LaRue homers to center! 3-0 Reds

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 02:47 PM
Well, Marty and the reporter of the hour (or second inning) are talking about Howsam who said that a player's ability should be gaged by RBI. Will someone on this board send him an email and argue that statement? I did, but I don't possess the knowledge that most of you do and probably didn't argue it convincingly. BTW, they didn't say but I know they were talking about Dunn as they said number of HRs should never be never be used, but rather RBI.

martyandsteve@redsonradio.com

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2005, 02:48 PM
Larue homers. 3-0 Reds.

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 02:48 PM
Larue! Bang!

Now watch Miley bench him for the next three games.

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 02:48 PM
According to Marty...Aurilia is back from Louisville after 1 game because he said so, and was reluctant to even do 1 game of rehab

TRANSLATION: Felipe Lopez was taking my job, and I wanted to get back as soon as humanly possible.

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 02:48 PM
Jason Larue is playing himself back to the bench...

Raisor
05-29-2005, 02:48 PM
LaRue, LaRue, LaRue is on fire.

traderumor
05-29-2005, 02:49 PM
Some series fun facts for the first three games for the Pittsburgh Lumber Company II vs. "Batting Practice that Counts":

22 runs, 7.33 rpg; YTD coming in 160 runs in 43 g for 3.72 rpg
41 hits in 115 AB for a .357 avg.; YTD prior to series 355/1450, a .245 average. The team average has increased seven points off of our chuckers.

Anyone have access to a slg pct comparison, first three games vs. season for Pitts?

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 02:49 PM
LaRue is :rockband:

Fullboat
05-29-2005, 02:49 PM
I was going to say Larue needs a new batting helmet.....never mind.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 02:51 PM
Claussen walks. He gives you good atbats up there.

Freel walks.

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 02:51 PM
Well, Marty and the reporter of the hour (or second inning) are talking about Howsam who said that a player's ability should be gaged by RBI. Will someone on this board send him an email and argue that statement? I did, but I don't possess the knowledge that most of you do and probably didn't argue it convincingly. BTW, they didn't say but I know they were talking about Dunn as they said number of HRs should never be never be used, but rather RBI.

martyandsteve@redsonradio.com

The problem is that there's not enough time to write that email and Marty is most likely either incapable or unwilling to understand.

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 02:52 PM
The problem is that there's not enough time to write that email and Marty is most likely either incapable or unwilling to understand.

That, and I think by now that Marty has blocked most of our e-mail addresses.

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 02:52 PM
I was going to say Larue needs a new batting helmet.....never mind.

I was thinking he needs to get Nick Lachey to clean it for him. :)

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 02:53 PM
A smart at bat by Freel. Wells just walked the pitcher, so he just takes pitches and lets nature take its course.

Amazing how simple a concept gets overlooked by overzealous hitters at times.

Freel, incidentally, is the only Reds player with more BBs than Ks.

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 02:53 PM
The problem is that there's not enough time to write that email and Marty is most likely either incapable or unwilling to understand.

:thumbup:

traderumor
05-29-2005, 02:53 PM
Wells, having watched Cincinnati hurlers for the last three days, has unconsciously picked up their pitching style.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 02:54 PM
Lopez again robbed of a hit. I thought that ball was going to leftfield.

Casey reaches on an error. Claussen scores, Lopez advances to 3rd.

Raisor
05-29-2005, 02:56 PM
whoever is doing color for the Bucs has GOT to be taking downers.

Dude needs to get some greenies from the clubhouse or something

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 02:57 PM
Griffey smashes a 3 run bomb!

7-0 Reds. That was crushed!

traderumor
05-29-2005, 02:57 PM
Wiggington is horrible at first, he made easy plays tough last night

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2005, 02:57 PM
Junior 3 run home run 7-0 Reds!!!

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 02:57 PM
Griffey is :rockband:

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 02:57 PM
Well, that's neato. Nice job Grif!

traderumor
05-29-2005, 02:57 PM
it ain't iffy if its griffey

Fullboat
05-29-2005, 02:58 PM
whoever is doing color for the Bucs has GOT to be taking downers.

Dude needs to get some greenies from the clubhouse or something


You figure with the way the pirates are playing they would be
well stocked.

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 02:58 PM
Well that was a no doubter...

Fullboat
05-29-2005, 02:58 PM
Sigh if only that happened yesterday.

traderumor
05-29-2005, 02:59 PM
"C'mon Brian, you got Matsui playing center and Womack in left. Jr. can still hold his own in center and his bat is coming around." :evil:

Raisor
05-29-2005, 02:59 PM
Dunn's looking like he's trying to be scrappy instead of playing his game. I hope Miley hasn't been yapping in his ear.

RosieRed
05-29-2005, 02:59 PM
Yay LaRue and Griffey! :party:

(Yeah, I know, I'm a little behind.)

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:00 PM
Dunn takes a ball, strike 1 swinging, ball 2, chases a bad pitch down and away, chases a pitch at the ankles.

I think somebody switched Javier Valentin and Adam Dunn's bodies. Dunn has been swinging at everything lately. That's what some people have been calling for.

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 03:01 PM
"C'mon Brian, you got Matsui playing center and Womack in left. Jr. can still hold his own in center and his bat is coming around." :evil:

Divorcing myself from what I know has to happen for the Reds to be successful, I would still love to see them keep Griffey...just becuase I still get shivers when he goes long.

It's a "he was my favorite player growing up" thing. I realize that and am attempting to deal with it. :thumbup:

traderumor
05-29-2005, 03:02 PM
Dunn takes a ball, strike 1 swinging, ball 2, chases a bad pitch down and away, chases a pitch at the ankles.

I think somebody switched Javier Valentin and Adam Dunn's bodies. Dunn has been swinging at everything lately. That's what some people have been calling for.Who's been calling for Adam to swing at everything? And he struck out looking his first turn.

traderumor
05-29-2005, 03:04 PM
Divorcing myself from what I know has to happen for the Reds to be successful, I would still love to see them keep Griffey...just becuase I still get shivers when he goes long.

It's a "he was my favorite player growing up" thing. I realize that and am attempting to deal with it. :thumbup:Yea, it is too bad that choice has to be made, I know what you mean, but since we seemingly have to choose between more of this type of roster or unloading a large contract, I'll take the latter.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:05 PM
Who's been calling for Adam to swing at everything? And he struck out looking his first turn.

Numerous times I've seen people state that they want Dunn to expand his strikezone. He's been doing that lately and now he is slumping like he's Javy Valentin.

Raisor
05-29-2005, 03:06 PM
Who's been calling for Adam to swing at everything? .


TR, you're kidding right?

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 03:09 PM
The problem is that there's not enough time to write that email and Marty is most likely either incapable or unwilling to understand.

Please try. Here's what I wrote (and I'm a novice at best)... and, of course, I had the audacity to disagree with Howsam:

"RBI is a ridiculous stat to gage a player's performance. The batter, whether a good one or a bad one, has absolutely no control over whether or not there are runners on base when he's at the plate. In addition, a batter is pitched to differently if there are guys on base or in scoring position vs the bases being empty.

In addition, Adam Dunn has received little to no protection behind him in the order this year, which also affects how he's pitched."

Raisor
05-29-2005, 03:11 PM
Please try. Here's what I wrote (and I'm a novice at best)... and, of course, I had the audacity to disagree with Howsam:

"RBI is a ridiculous stat to gage a player's performance. The batter, whether a good one or a bad one, has absolutely no control over whether or not there are runners on base when he's at the plate. In addition, a batter is pitched to differently if there are guys on base or in scoring position vs the bases being empty.

In addition, Adam Dunn has received little to no protection behind him in the order this year, which also affects how he's pitched."


TB,

I think that's fine.

traderumor
05-29-2005, 03:13 PM
Numerous times I've seen people say they want Dunn to expand his strikezone. He's been doing that lately and now he is slumping like he's Javy Valentin.I've understood the consensus of that strike out less via more contact and protecting the zone late, but I've seen very few suggest "expanding" it

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:13 PM
Kearns walk.

Aurilia steps in chases 2 bad pitches, works the count to 3-2 and takes a curve for strike 3.

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 03:14 PM
Please try. Here's what I wrote (and I'm a novice at best)... and, of course, I had the audacity to disagree with Howsam:

"RBI is a ridiculous stat to gage a player's performance. The batter, whether a good one or a bad one, has absolutely no control over whether or not there are runners on base when he's at the plate. In addition, a batter is pitched to differently if there are guys on base or in scoring position vs the bases being empty.

In addition, Adam Dunn has received little to no protection behind him in the order this year, which also affects how he's pitched."

Thats a good response. If Marty reads it on the air, let us know. I'd want to go back and listen to him make himself sound foolish trying to rebutt anything you said. Good job.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:15 PM
I've understood the consensus of that strike out less via more contact and protecting the zone late, but I've seen very few suggest "expanding" it

I've seen it plenty of times. They brought it up that Dunn would hit for a higher average and K less if he expanded his zone. I'll try to find some examples when I have time.

LaRue doubles in Kearns, 8-0 Reds.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:18 PM
Freel double scores LaRue!

9-0 Reds.

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 03:19 PM
Instant poll question: Is Ryan Freel an All-Star based on his numbers to this point?

A. Yes, absolutely.
B. Not a chance.

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 03:21 PM
Instant poll question: Is Ryan Freel an All-Star based on his numbers to this point?

A. Yes, absolutely.
B. Not a chance.

A

Crosley68
05-29-2005, 03:22 PM
Without a doubt if this continues he is our all-star.......but June can be a cruel month.

Raisor
05-29-2005, 03:23 PM
Instant poll question: Is Ryan Freel an All-Star based on his numbers to this point?

A. Yes, absolutely.
B. Not a chance.

2B is the only place he'd be likely to go in as, and looking at the other NL 2Bers, I'd probably say "ask me again in three weeks".

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 03:23 PM
Please try. Here's what I wrote (and I'm a novice at best)... and, of course, I had the audacity to disagree with Howsam:

"RBI is a ridiculous stat to gage a player's performance. The batter, whether a good one or a bad one, has absolutely no control over whether or not there are runners on base when he's at the plate. In addition, a batter is pitched to differently if there are guys on base or in scoring position vs the bases being empty.

In addition, Adam Dunn has received little to no protection behind him in the order this year, which also affects how he's pitched."

Feel free to cut-and-paste my post from the thread Serafini started about how the Reds were at the top of the NL in OPS every season they went to the playoffs in the 1970's and that their team OPS allowed them to even win 88-92 games when their pitching was below average.

Then please tell him to shut his stupid trap.

traderumor
05-29-2005, 03:23 PM
I've seen it plenty of times. They brought it up that Dunn would hit for a higher average and K less if he expanded his zone. I'll try to find some examples when I have time.

LaRue doubles in Kearns, 8-0 Reds.Maybe I blew through those responses shaking my head ;) I'll take your word for it, but the ones I paid attention to focused on more contact.

traderumor
05-29-2005, 03:25 PM
Then please tell him to shut his stupid trap.Never did like the subtle approach :)

Raisor
05-29-2005, 03:27 PM
Marty's never been the same since they forced him to take that Elvis statue out of the booth. Did that thing ever get put back?

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 03:29 PM
Amusing anecdote of the day: My friend (a 'casual' baseball fan) is at the game today, and he just called me with the following question:

"Yo, who the heck are these guys? There's a dude named 'Humberto' catching, and some guy named 'Restmanovich' playing right field. Is Pittsburgh even trying anymore?"

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:30 PM
top 4

-Wiggy doubles
-Castillo walks
-Restovich grounded into a 4-6-3 double play
-Cota singles on a 0-2 pitch. Horrible pitch. The pitch before that, Cota swung at a curve in the dirt, so why throw him a fastball on the next pitch?
-Next batter flew out.

9-1 Reds after 3-1/2

Caveat Emperor
05-29-2005, 03:31 PM
Annoying Complaint of the Day: Is anyone else sick of this Pepsi commercial where two people just keep naming off Italian foods really loudly in a really bad accent?

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 03:32 PM
Thanks guys.

I write to Marty all the time because he often makes me want to bonk him over the head for something he says; he never reads them... he only reads the ones bashing Cleveland, riduculing Old Leather Pants, and one that was something about aliens.

Usually, I sign my name. Today, I forgot to.

Steel, I may just do that. I think I'll sign it "A Redszoner".

Raisor
05-29-2005, 03:36 PM
Man-o-man, I can't believe how boring these Buc announcers are.

When Grande and Welsh are an upgrade, you know you're bad.

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 03:36 PM
Annoying Complaint of the Day: Is anyone else sick of this Pepsi commercial where two people just keep naming off Italian foods really loudly in a really bad accent?


I hear it every day...I was sick of it after the first time it aired...

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:37 PM
-Casey infield single
-Griff K's on high cheese
-Dunn walks on 4 pitches
-Kearns flies to center
-Aurilia does what he does best, "Can-o-corn."

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 03:38 PM
Thanks guys.

I write to Marty all the time because he often makes me want to bonk him over the head for something he says; he never reads them... he only reads the ones bashing Cleveland, riduculing Old Leather Pants, and one that was something about aliens.

Usually, I sign my name. Today, I forgot to.

Steel, I may just do that. I think I'll sign it "A Redszoner".

If you do that, TB, also ask Marty why the 14th best "RBI man" in all of MLB from 2004 couldn't find a MLB job this offseason. :)

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 03:42 PM
-Casey infield single
-Aurilia does what he does best, "Can-o-corn."

If MLB adopted the XFL jersey names, that would actually be sewn on the back of Aurilia's uniform.

D'Angelo Jimenez' XFL name would be "FreelHateMe".

Boss-Hog
05-29-2005, 03:52 PM
If MLB adopted the XFL jersey names, that would actually be sewn on the back of Aurilia's uniform.

D'Angelo Jimenez' XFL name would be "FreelHateMe". :laugh:

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 03:52 PM
Well, I'm really disappointed. Both emails were returned as undeliverable.

I tried the email address with martyandsteve AND marty&steve... neither worked.

jmcclain19
05-29-2005, 03:52 PM
Claussen's thrown 70 pitches after 5

His ERA has now snuck below 4 for the season to 3.94.

Don't look now, but that makes two Reds starters who have ERA's below the league average.

OldCat
05-29-2005, 03:54 PM
I wonder how much our other 2 starters move the league average up!

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:54 PM
If MLB adopted the XFL jersey names, that would actually be sewn on the back of Aurilia's uniform.

D'Angelo Jimenez' XFL name would be "FreelHateMe".

:thumbup: :ughmamoru

jmcclain19
05-29-2005, 03:54 PM
It should also be noted that both of those starters with ERA's south of 4 were brought to the Reds by the duo of Maddox and Kullman. Should the Reds management feel the need to makes some changes...may I make a request....

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 03:55 PM
Well, I'm really disappointed. Both emails were returned as undeliverable.

I tried the email address with martyandsteve AND marty&steve... neither worked.

odd...it should be martyandsteve@redsonradio.com

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 03:55 PM
Sigh...

That would have been more effective if I hadn't left the "l" off Freel's name. Grrrr.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 03:56 PM
top 6

-Wiggy grounded out
-Hill struckout looking
-Restovich homered to left, 9-2
-Cota grounded out

Boss-Hog
05-29-2005, 03:56 PM
Sigh...

That would have been more effective if I hadn't left the "l" off Freel's name. Grrrr. I fixed it. :)

jmcclain19
05-29-2005, 03:56 PM
Well, I'm really disappointed. Both emails were returned as undeliverable.

I tried the email address with martyandsteve AND marty&steve... neither worked.

that's what happens when your email address is blocked TB ;)

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 03:58 PM
that's what happens when your email address is blocked TB ;)

I never thought of that! Perhaps I should send them from my hotmail address.

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 03:58 PM
I fixed it. :)

Thank you, kind sir. :)

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:01 PM
Lopez doubles to extend his hitting streak to 11 games.

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 04:02 PM
Lopez doubles to extend his hitting streak to 11 games.

It's just really really fun to watch this kid play ball right now.

SandyD
05-29-2005, 04:03 PM
I never thought of that! Perhaps I should send them from my hotmail address.

You should try that just to see if it works. Could his mailbox be full? or do they shut it off after a certain point in the game? Just wondering about the possibilities.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:04 PM
Casey flyout. Griffey doubles off the wall to score Lopez. Nice game by Griff!

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2005, 04:04 PM
5 RBI's for Junior today. 10-2 Reds.

traderumor
05-29-2005, 04:05 PM
Claussen's thrown 70 pitches after 5

His ERA has now snuck below 4 for the season to 3.94.

Don't look now, but that makes two Reds starters who have ERA's below the league average.And they are both young, cheap, and improving. Unlike a pair (except Milton is still relatively young) who is expensive and ineffective and could be on someone else's payroll right now.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:05 PM
Dunn swings at another bad pitch and fouls it and then flies to left. Waks are a good thing, Adam. Stop swinging at those pitches.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:08 PM
Just when you think Kearns is turning it around, he goes 0-13 with 2 walks in this series.

10-2 Reds after 6.

OldCat
05-29-2005, 04:10 PM
Well the reds have their Sparky tribute score today at least

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 04:10 PM
Luis Lopez to play 2nd...Freel to center...Griffey, after 5 RBI's and HR goes to the bench...

...of course, it is 10-2

Northern Red
05-29-2005, 04:12 PM
I'm watching gamecast on espn, so I have no idea about jr. He's not hurt, is he? I see he was replaced - hopefully, it's just b/c it's 10-2???? :confused:

OldCat
05-29-2005, 04:13 PM
Its because he's stealing all the SF opportunities from Dunn.

traderumor
05-29-2005, 04:14 PM
Dunn swings at another bad pitch and fouls it and then flies to left. Waks are a good thing, Adam. Stop swinging at those pitches.His OBP was .414 coming into the game, .162 points above his batting average. I'm not seeing the cause for concern. He's walking a lot, is near the top in homers and strikeouts, which is his MO.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:16 PM
His OBP was .414 coming into the game, .162 points above his batting average. I'm not seeing the cause for concern. He's walking a lot, is near the top in homers and strikeouts, which is his MO.

He has been chasing a lot of bad pitches lately. Especially early in the count. That's something he rarely does. .414 OBP is great, but just two weeks ago it was .440.

SandyD
05-29-2005, 04:16 PM
May 29, 1921: Redland Field Cincinnati.

Reds were leading the Pirates 2-1 heading into the top of the 9th. Clive Barnhard hit a ball that rolled under a tarp in right field. Pat Duncan, who for some reason was in right that day, was trying to retrieve the ball from under the tarp. A boy jumped under the tarp, retrieved the ball and ran off with it. While all this was going on, Barnhard crossed the plate, was awarded a HR, and the game was tied.

The Reds could do nothing in the bottom of the ninth, so the game went on until the 13th inning. Reds won 4-3.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:19 PM
Good start from Claussen.

7 innings/7 hits/ 2 runs/ 2 walks/ 4 K's

98 pitches.

OldCat
05-29-2005, 04:19 PM
So do you try and get Claussen a complete game? he's at 100 pitches

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 04:20 PM
He has been chasing a lot of bad pitches lately. Especially early in the count. That's something he rarely does. .414 OBP is great, but just two weeks ago it was .440.

He must be reading this board. You know, the few that say he should swing more instead of waiting for his pitch? And look what it's doing to his game....

LINEDRIVER
05-29-2005, 04:21 PM
Just when you think Kearns is turning it around, he goes 0-13 with 2 walks in this series.

10-2 Reds after 6.

Exactly. I was hoping that Austin Householder could keep his head out of his butt for awhile, but I guess not.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:22 PM
Does Rich Aurilia think he is God's gift to this team?


"I wanted one day. [The Reds] wanted more," Aurilia said. "I don't know if they were too happy about that. But I just said, 'I'll go for one day,' because I knew I wasn't going to get activated unless I went."

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050529&content_id=1067099&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Rich-you're OPSing below .600. Shut up and do what yer told. Good to see the Reds gave in. :rolleyes:

OldCat
05-29-2005, 04:22 PM
He's the best all-around player on the team, except when he stinks.

OldCat
05-29-2005, 04:23 PM
Does Rich Aurilia think he is God's gift to this team?



http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050529&content_id=1067099&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Rich-you're OPSing below .600. Shut up and do what yer told. Good to see the Reds gave in. :rolleyes:

And how does his hammy affect his OPS?

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:24 PM
He must be reading this board. You know, the few that say he should swing more instead of waiting for his pitch? And look what it's doing to his game....

Exactly. That's what I was saying a little while ago. It wouldn't surprise me if Miley or one of the coaches is telling him to swing early to avoid striking out.

Freel double scores LaRue. Freel to 3rd on the throw.

Lopez gets ahead 2-0, called strike, ball 3, borderline pitch called strike 2, line drive caught by the RFer.

Chip R
05-29-2005, 04:28 PM
Exactly. That's what I was saying a little while ago. It wouldn't surprise me if Miley or one of the coaches are telling him to swing early to avoid striking out.
Adam's a big boy. If he's swinging at pitches early in the count it's more than likely his decision just as it's his decision to not swing at those pitches.

LINEDRIVER
05-29-2005, 04:29 PM
I hope this 9 run lead will be safe. ha ha

OldCat
05-29-2005, 04:31 PM
Just a general observation -- sometimes things happen for no particular reason. Every change doesn't have to be a big conspiracy.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:31 PM
Claussen stays in for the 8th. Romano replaces Dunn.

-Mackowiak grounded out to Luis Lopez.
-Wiggington robbed of a HR by Freel!
-Hill walks.

Claussen pulled from the game.

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 04:31 PM
Ryan Freel is something special

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2005, 04:32 PM
Great play by Freel to steal a home run.

SirFelixCat
05-29-2005, 04:33 PM
Great play by Freel...webgem.....FANTASTIC outing by Claussen. :beerme:

Reds Fanatic
05-29-2005, 04:33 PM
Great start by Claussen today 7 2/3 IP, 7H, 2ER, 3BB, 4 K

Joseph
05-29-2005, 04:34 PM
Ryan Freel is something special

^

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 04:34 PM
:clap: :claussen: :clap:

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 04:39 PM
Steel, they're doing your email! I guess they got it.

Boss-Hog
05-29-2005, 04:40 PM
Steel, they're doing your email! I guess they got it. YES! I just heard that, as well.

Matt700wlw
05-29-2005, 04:40 PM
See...he reads them ;)

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 04:40 PM
He said "that's a pretty good run".

LINEDRIVER
05-29-2005, 04:42 PM
Man-o-man, I can't believe how boring these Buc announcers are.

When Grande and Welsh are an upgrade, you know you're bad.

I'm glad Georgie has the day off. If I would of heard "the Buccos" one more time, I would of pulled the rest of my hair out.

Chip R
05-29-2005, 04:44 PM
I think that was either a different e-mail or Marty edited it because I didn't hear him say anything about OPS.

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 04:46 PM
I think he missed the point. sigh....

Bob Borkowski
05-29-2005, 04:46 PM
I think that was either a different e-mail or Marty edited it because I didn't hear him say anything about OPS.

I don't believe Marty 'got it', if you know what I mean.

jmcclain19
05-29-2005, 04:47 PM
Is it just me, or do the Pirates announcers have the annoying habit of refering to the players by their first names or nicknames when talking about them. That always bugs me to no end - its "Bobby Hill swings and misses" not "Bobby takes a swing a misses"

Chip R
05-29-2005, 04:47 PM
I think he missed the point. sigh....I think you and Bob are right.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 04:48 PM
Keisler tosses a 1-2-3 9th.

Reds win 11-2.

SirFelixCat
05-29-2005, 04:50 PM
A complete game...novel....by complete, I mean, very solid pitching, the offense showed up big and very very solid "D" today, esp. Freel's webgem. Good game guys!

traderumor
05-29-2005, 05:26 PM
He has been chasing a lot of bad pitches lately. Especially early in the count. That's something he rarely does. .414 OBP is great, but just two weeks ago it was .440.And his BA was around .270-.280. Kinda neat how someone in a slump maintains the split between OBP and BA, eh? I guess this is going to be the typical reaction every slump or when Dunn swings at a few bad pitches?

Tony Cloninger
05-29-2005, 05:27 PM
I think Marty probably understood the e-mail but was not going to give anyone the satisfaction of being corrected and proven wrong.

THis whole RA thing.....it's almost like he is the big bully of the block and Miley and DO are the nerds who do whatever he wants or else they get beat up.

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 05:27 PM
Steel, they're doing your email! I guess they got it.

Sorry. I missed that one (listening to the Pirates announcers). What did they say??

Tony Cloninger
05-29-2005, 05:37 PM
He probably said something like ....."In my day..... a guy like Dunn was no better than Dave Kingman...... back then i would have traded Dunn for some contact hitters with speed....Frank Taveras....Rennie Stennett....Felix Millan. Now those where hitters you knew would hit the ball."

Chip R
05-29-2005, 05:46 PM
Sorry. I missed that one (listening to the Pirates announcers). What did they say??I think he rattled off where they finished all those years but made no mention that the statistic was OPS. It sounded like he was saying that was where they finished in the standings all those years.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2005, 05:48 PM
And his BA was around .270-.280. Kinda neat how someone in a slump maintains the split between OBP and BA, eh? I guess this is going to be the typical reaction every slump or when Dunn swings at a few bad pitches?

No, his BA was in the low .260's. I'm not bashing the guy..he's my favorite player of all-time. I was just pointing out that he had been chasing a lot bad pitches lately.

The good news is he's starting to walk again(5 walks in last 4 games).

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 05:49 PM
I think he rattled off where they finished all those years but made no mention that the statistic was OPS. It sounded like he was saying that was where they finished in the standings all those years.

Thanks. So he either ignored the information or completely misunderstood it.

Sigh.

Falls City Beer
05-29-2005, 05:56 PM
If I could do anything, I'd take back supporting enthusiastically the Boone for Claussen deal. That was just an awful trade. Do over--please! Boone is so awesome; what was I thinking? :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

Chip R
05-29-2005, 05:59 PM
Thanks. So he either ignored the information or completely misunderstood it.

Sigh.Yeah, basically. He even read the part where they were below league average in ERA a couple of those years. He mentioned where they finished in 75-76 and said, "I don't have to tell you what happened those years."

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 06:34 PM
Sorry. I missed that one (listening to the Pirates announcers). What did they say??

He read it and then said... "that was a pretty good run".

SteelSD
05-29-2005, 06:38 PM
Well, I guess I'll have to be more clear what the actual point is next time I post something for Marty consumption.

Maybe see if I can write it in crayon or something...

Ugh.

KittyDuran
05-29-2005, 07:15 PM
I'm watching gamecast on espn, so I have no idea about jr. He's not hurt, is he? I see he was replaced - hopefully, it's just b/c it's 10-2???? :confused:I was at the game and didn't see him or Dunn in the dugout after they left - nor when the Reds won and everyone came out to the field. Hopefully, neither are hurt. Or maybe they went looking for their chairs... :devil:

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 07:46 PM
He read it and then said... "that was a pretty good run".

What inning was this, do you remember? I want to listen to him read Steel's letter, but don't want to sit through the entire game listening to Marty.

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 07:58 PM
ND2, it was during the top of the 9th I think.

TeamBoone
05-29-2005, 07:59 PM
Well, I guess I'll have to be more clear what the actual point is next time I post something for Marty consumption.

Maybe see if I can write it in crayon or something...

Ugh.

He must not have read the title; I don't know.

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 08:15 PM
ND2, it was during the top of the 9th I think.

Thanks TB. I'll check that out. I need a laugh right about now.

Reds Nd2
05-29-2005, 08:39 PM
He must not have read the title; I don't know.

He didn't read the title and made no mention of OPS. Steel's right. Next time he needs to write it in crayon or maybe send it to Steve instead.

KronoRed
05-29-2005, 09:20 PM
Aurilia :rant:

Steel is now even more famous :D

KronoRed
05-29-2005, 09:24 PM
So, who had Rich Aurillia starting on his first day back in the pool?

:bang:

I did :wave:

What do I win? ;)