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creek14
06-03-2005, 06:33 PM
Today
CIN: Eric Milton
at
COL: Jeff Francis
9:05 p.m.
TV: FSN
Radio: 700 AM


Matchup
Slumps don't play favorites. And no rookie is immune. Jeff Francis (4-2, 5.24 ERA) is suffering through this season's first mini-skid, tagged for 11 runs in his past 10 1/3 innings. Frustration ruled after his last start, when Francis admitted he didn't have one pitch he could trust. Eric Milton (3-6, 7.05) doesn't mesh real well with Denver. He's not just a flyball pitcher, he's a long flyball pitcher, surrendering 20 home runs in 60 innings.

creek14
06-03-2005, 06:36 PM
Colorado Cincinnati
Height average 6-1 6-2

Weight average 207.9 206.2

Age average 27.6 29

Oldest Todd Greene (34.1) Kent Mercker (37.3)

Youngest Marcos Carvajal (20.8) Elizardo Ramirez (22.3)

Rookies 10 4

30 years old + 7 13

1st round selections 7 8

Never drafted 7 7

Americans 23 24

Other nationalities 8 9

Major League Experience

Total of G (batters) 4627 9270

Total of G/GS (pitchers) 2027 / 693 2535 / 863

Total of AB (batters) 15286 30846

Total of IP (pitchers) 5512 6904.1

MLB seasons average 3.6 5.3

How the Clubs were Built

Drafted 10 5

Free agency 10 13

Trades 8 14

Others 3 1

creek14
06-03-2005, 06:38 PM
Team Leaders Colorado - Cincinnati

Games (batters) Todd Helton, Clint Barmes (51) Adam Dunn (52)

Batting average Clint Barmes (.324) Sean Casey (.319)

On base percentage Todd Helton (.387) Ryan Freel (.425)

Slugging percentage Clint Barmes (.505) Adam Dunn (.571)

At-bats Clint Barmes (210) Ken Griffey Jr. (191)

Runs Clint Barmes (37) Adam Dunn (33)

Hits Clint Barmes (68) Sean Casey (60)

Doubles Clint Barmes (15) Ken Griffey Jr., Sean Casey (15)

Triples Matt Holliday (4) Adam Dunn (2)

Home runs Preston Wilson, Clint Barmes (7) Adam Dunn (14)

Runs batted in Clint Barmes (30) Ken Griffey Jr. (36)

Stolen bases Matt Holliday (6) Ryan Freel (13)

Base on balls Todd Helton (37) Adam Dunn (43)

Games (pitchers) Brian Fuentes (30) Kent Mercker (28)

Earned run average Jeff Francis (5.24) Aaron Harang (2.97)

Wins Jeff Francis (4) Aaron Harang (4)

Saves Brian Fuentes, Chin-Hui Tsao (3) David Weathers (1)

Innings pitched Jason Jennings (66.1) Aaron Harang (66.2)

Strikeouts Jason Jennings (40) Aaron Harang (57)

smith288
06-03-2005, 06:41 PM
Earned run average Jeff Francis (5.24) Aaron Harang (2.97)

very Ouch, man.

Joseph
06-03-2005, 07:10 PM
Creek you put my game threads to shame with your information. Kudos.

RosieRed
06-03-2005, 07:14 PM
Earned run average Jeff Francis (5.24) Aaron Harang (2.97)

very Ouch, man.

For what it's worth, Francis' ERA at Coors is just 2.92. He's 3-0 in four starts at Coors.

His road ERA is 7.03.

savafan
06-03-2005, 07:16 PM
How do the Reds have 24 Americans and 9 foreigners on a 24 man roster?

smith288
06-03-2005, 07:21 PM
How do the Reds have 24 Americans and 9 foreigners on a 24 man roster? They use very racist methods in counting a foreigner? :confused:

SirFelixCat
06-03-2005, 07:22 PM
All I know is I anxious, yet scared to go home tonight and watch the TiVo of tonights game. Should be interesting. For those sports betters out there, I'd probably play the over, as long as it is no higher than 20 ;)

Puffy
06-03-2005, 07:36 PM
Rich Aurilia is a career .286 hitter at Coors Field.

Just sayin'

TRF
06-03-2005, 07:37 PM
I loathe the....

bah!

traderumor
06-03-2005, 07:52 PM
Rich Aurilia is a career .286 hitter at Coors Field.

Just sayin'Isn't that just a hoot? That's like being a .200 hitter anywhere else. Yea, he's tore it up there ;)

And I think I'm probably approaching the "excessive player criticism" rule with Aurilia. Can I neg myself? :evil:

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 08:00 PM
I completely agree..... .286 at Coors is like about no more than .230/.240 anywhere else. And big deal that he has 10 HR's there......how many times did he play there when he was with the Giants?

I think the article in the enquirer was discussing his alleged demands and then stated how this weekend he might start beacuse of those numbers. :rolleyes:

pedro
06-03-2005, 08:16 PM
Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Freel cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .314
F. Lopez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
S. Casey 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .319
A. Kearns rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .226
J. Randa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .285
R. Aurilia 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .192
J. LaRue c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .238
J. Romano lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
E. Milton p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Colorado
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
C. Barmes ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .324
L. Gonzalez 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .284
T. Helton 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .257
P. Wilson cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .252
M. Holliday lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .303
D. Mohr rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
D. Relaford 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .323
J.D. Closser c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .191
J. Francis p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .048
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 08:20 PM
You have to be out of your mind to sit Dunn for Romano.

Is this guy Francis Bob Veale or Sandy Koufax???

gm
06-03-2005, 08:20 PM
Casey the only LHH starting against Francis...who's career L/R splits aren't that severe

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/7383/splits?year=career&type=Pitching

LaRue gets to bat 7th for a change

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 08:23 PM
I don't care if it's an Octopus pitching....it's Coors field!

I don't want Miley as manager anymore.....i have officially joined the list.

savafan
06-03-2005, 08:24 PM
Aurilia and Romano starting! Is this game even worth watching? The ticket buying public all over MLB has to hate Dave Miley for the line-ups that they have to watch.

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 08:28 PM
:rolleyes:

I don't care if Bob Gibson is pitching, you don't sit a big power hitter down at Coors Field.

Miley is stupid. I don't really have a good reason to watch this game with this pathetic lineup on the field.

Dunn career at Coors Field: .333/.463/.848-1.312

savafan
06-03-2005, 08:31 PM
It almost makes you long for the days of Bob Boone.

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 08:34 PM
It almost makes you long for the days of Bob Boone.

I would give anything to have Bob Boone back. Dave Miley is that bad. I want Davey or Dierker, but that's asking for too much.

savafan
06-03-2005, 08:34 PM
You have Eric Milton pitching in Coors Field, and you don't start Dunn, the big slugger, or Griffey, one of your hottest hitters at the moment? Why did so many of us wish for Miley to get this job?

TeamCasey
06-03-2005, 08:36 PM
Will a mod please sticky the Reds Live thread? Thank you. :)

RosieRed
06-03-2005, 08:39 PM
This gets a big :thumbdown from me.

And a few :bang: :bang:

While I'm at it, why not some :rolleyes: :rolleyes: and :help: :help: too.

Puffy
06-03-2005, 08:39 PM
See, .286 hitter at Coors. Aurilia needs to play, and Miley knows that.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 08:40 PM
Lineup = unbelievable. I'm really really angry. :angry:

On Real Reds, they said "no Dunn and no Griffey... we'll get to that later"... which kind of scared me.

Tarp on the field (raining) and they have a tornado watch at Coors.

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 08:40 PM
I had a chance to go fishing/camping tonight and drink a few beers, but I said no--the Reds are playing at Coors tonight. Why not stay home and see how many homeruns the Reds and Rockies can hit? And now Miley puts this poor excuse for a lineup out there. I stayed home for this? :thumbdown

ugh.

savafan
06-03-2005, 08:41 PM
Where is the other split squad team playing? That's the game that I'm interested in.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 08:44 PM
it just gets stranger and stranger

membengal
06-03-2005, 08:46 PM
Just when I think I have seen the worst Miley can do, he surprises me.

THIS is the worst line-up I have ever seen.

The funniest part if Aurilia batting 6th. Technically, IF he is going to play, he should be hitting 9th behind Milton.

membengal
06-03-2005, 08:46 PM
Where is the other split squad team playing? That's the game that I'm interested in.

Hee.

Nice.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 08:53 PM
play at coors = remove my best HR hitters = ????

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 08:53 PM
If Miley was managing the Pirates of the 70's and there was a Coors field back then with a lefty starting......he would have sat Stargell and Parker....and played Mario Mendoza and Gene Clines instead. That's basically what he is doing with this lineup.

savafan
06-03-2005, 08:53 PM
I just shot an e-mail off to my good friend John Allen about Dave Miley's management style.

Falls City Beer
06-03-2005, 09:00 PM
Is rain gonna delay/postpone this baby? Cuz I feel like going out on the porch and smoking an enormous cigar and drinking a disgusting domestic beer.

CrackerJack
06-03-2005, 09:01 PM
half hour delay Mr. Grande tells us - at least

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:02 PM
defense and pitching ... a winning coors recipe :bash:

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:03 PM
defense and pitching ... a winning coors recipe :bash:

The problem with that logic is that Eric Milton is starting.

letsgojunior
06-03-2005, 09:03 PM
Sitting Dunn and Griffey at Coors makes a TON of sense.

Miley rawks!

(note sarcasm)

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:04 PM
Somebody call the banana phone about this line-up

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Sitting Dunn and Griffey at Coors makes a TON of sense.

Miley rawks!

(note sarcasm)in some alternate Miley universe.

RANDY IN INDY
06-03-2005, 09:06 PM
Is rain gonna delay/postpone this baby? Cuz I feel like going out on the porch and smoking an enormous cigar and drinking a disgusting domestic beer.

Think I'll join you, FCB. Never, ever, been as disgusted with a Reds manager as I am now with Miley. He has no business managing this team. A total "meat head."

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:06 PM
Double post (don't know how that happened)

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:07 PM
Ok, I'm officially dazed and confused as to the reasoning Chris Welsh just passed on to us regarding the absence of Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey, Jr.

He said DM decided to give them the night off because the Rockies pitcher is really tough on lefties. Thus, the Reds have a little better defense out there tonight.

First of all, since when is batting Dunn and Griffey against lefties a problem? (especially at Coors!) Second, someone please explain how the defense is improved?

:confused: :rolleyes: :eek: :(

letsgojunior
06-03-2005, 09:07 PM
What logical reason is there to sit them both after an off-day at a notorious home run park?

I'm incensed. Are they still being punished for the chairs or something? This is so stupid.

Fullboat
06-03-2005, 09:07 PM
Anybody think this could be related to the chair fiasco?

Still a stupid move by Miley

jmcclain19
06-03-2005, 09:07 PM
Doesn't look like there will be much of a game tonight folks

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2778623


A violent storm packing heavy rain and gusty winds roared through Denver during the evening rush hour Friday, swamping roads and prompting tornado warnings that sent workers and residents scrambling for cover.

At the federal courthouse in downtown Denver, county officials hustled reporters out of the clerk's office to get away from windows as the wind howled and lightning lit up the sky along the eastern edge of the Rockies.

"I was working away with my earphones on. If someone wouldn't have tapped me on the shoulder, I would have worked right through it," said Patricia Pirner, a clerk for the U.S. District Court.

"We were told we needed to go to the basement." Reporters, players and other employees of the Colorado Rockies were forced to the lowest level of Coors Field as tornado sirens sounded nearby. The Rockies were scheduled to play Cincinnati later Friday.

Traffic stacked up for miles along area highways and intersections across the city were swamped with water that climbed over the hood in some places. Standing water was reported from Fort Collins to southern Colorado, Colorado Department of Transportation public information specialist Paul Peterson said.

"If you can't see the bottom, the general rule is just park it.

You're not going to be going anywhere," Peterson said.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:08 PM
as Coors has shown. the only recipe to win there is to outslug your opponent

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:08 PM
Steve Stewart just said on the radio that Dunn and Griffey are both upset and wanted to be in the starting line-up tonight.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:09 PM
What logical reason is there to sit them both after an off-day at a notorious home run park?

I'm incensed. Are they still being punished for the chairs or something? This is so stupid.i think Miley has lost his rocker as well

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:10 PM
I don't get this..I don't care who the other pitcher is you don't put the power guys in the bench in FREAKING DENVER!

:rant:

Sorry

smith288
06-03-2005, 09:10 PM
I hope they dont play tonight... God's revenge against this blasphemic lineup.

letsgojunior
06-03-2005, 09:11 PM
Steve Stewart just said on the radio that Dunn and Griffey are both upset and wanted to be in the starting line-up tonight.

I'd be ticked as well if I was benched in favor of the likes of Timmy Aurilia and Jason "Macaroni Grill" Romano.

Aurilia is probably looking at this series as a chance to get his batting average over .200. Maybe then someone will trade a used batting glove for him.

Sorry I'm really mad right now.:lol:

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:12 PM
I hope they dont play tonight... God's revenge against this blasphemic lineup.doesn't matter. Miley would put out the same lineup tomorrow against Francis

GAC
06-03-2005, 09:12 PM
I don't care if it's an Octopus pitching....it's Coors field!

I don't want Miley as manager anymore.....i have officially joined the list.

I'm just about there too my friend. This lineup, especially for Coors Field, is simply ridiculous. Sitting Dunn and Jr? And I thought Pena was due to come off the DL today?

I'm almost beginning to miss the days of Bob Boone.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:12 PM
What in the name of God is going on with Dave Miley? Especially with regard to Dunn and Griffey... and especially the love fest with Aurilia.

I, like everyone else, just don't get it. Does he like losing?

Before he alienates every Reds fan and a majority of his players, does anyone else think he owes the fans some sort of rationale for his nutso lineups and moves? I mean a REAL reason as opposed to the vanilla stuff that's always given. Don't we have a right to know? Because there's obviously something going on with him.

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 09:12 PM
Okay ....so then why is Casey in there ...Mr. Crafty LH?

Romano cannot hit....and has speed so he must be good on defense.

RA can do his "Thinker" impersenation at 2B.......throw his bat down after he swings at the first pitch and pops it up......scowl at Lopez for not covering more ground so he does not look as bad....and also step in front of Lopez to make himself look like he is trying hard and is a gamer.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:14 PM
I didn't think I could get anymore livid... and here I am! More livid than ever.

The ever evolving lineup is getting old, old, old. God! Stick with one and plug in the bench players as needed. The guys on this team probably don't even know who the starters are anymore!

This is not the minors where you play everyone to get a look. This is the majors... you have starters and you have the bench!

I am so damn mad!

smith288
06-03-2005, 09:14 PM
I dont even think im event going to follow this game if its played... Hmm...what's on QVC...

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:14 PM
And I thought Pena was due to come off the DL today?



Marty said that the Reds haven't activated Wily Mo yet. They are going to approach his return cautiously because he's been hurt so long. I'm trying not to pick apart that reasoning.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:15 PM
The sad part is that there are two posible explanations and both defy description.
1)Miley is showing who is in charge
2)He really thinks this is a good lineup for winning at Coors

GAC
06-03-2005, 09:15 PM
Anyone want to chat during the rain delay? Or are they even going to get this game in?

jmcclain19
06-03-2005, 09:15 PM
The Weather Channel still says there are tornado warnings in effect for that area. Not looking good for baseball weather

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:16 PM
WMP is playing in Louisville tonight. Probably see him next Tuesday in Cincy.

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:16 PM
This is not the minors where you play everyone to get a look. This is the majors... you have starters and you have the bench!



I've been saying it for a long time now, Miley is managing this team like it is a minor league team.

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 09:16 PM
Steve Stewart just said on the radio that Dunn and Griffey are both upset and wanted to be in the starting line-up tonight.

Dunn's counting down the days til he gets out of this joke organization.

GAC
06-03-2005, 09:18 PM
Anyone lsitening, during the rain delay, to Fox's Best Damn Sports Show? Rose and Dibble are on there. Rose is a hoot talking about Canseco's book! :lol:

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 09:18 PM
I long for the days of Don Heffner.


He would have never started Marty Keough over Vada Pinson.


At least Don had an excuse......they had traded Frank Robinson in the off season!

traderumor
06-03-2005, 09:19 PM
Can't add anything, you guys said it all. Just wanted to join in the mob. C'mon, paw, I think he went in that barn over there. Giving power hitters a night off against lefties in Coors :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :all_cohol :all_cohol :all_cohol :all_cohol :all_cohol :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :miley: :miley: :miley: :miley: :miley: :miley: :miley: :miley: :miley: :miley:

smith288
06-03-2005, 09:19 PM
Dunn's counting down the days til he gets out of this joke organization. Reds are becoming the Bengals in baseball land. Rediculous player management, assinine lineups, vanilla explainations, aggrivation all around for fans...what is the point coming to this team if you arent being setup to succeed???

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:19 PM
Where do they get these banana phone callers?

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:19 PM
At the top of the hour they said they're working on the infield and the game should be delayed about 30 minutes.

I. Soooooooooooo. Badly. Want. To. Swear. On. This. Board. RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

letsgojunior
06-03-2005, 09:20 PM
Where do they get these banana phone callers?

It's probably Miley calling from the clubhouse.

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:20 PM
At the top of the hour they said they're working on the infield and the game should be delayed about 30 minutes.

I. Soooooooooooo. Badly. Want. To. Swear. On. This. Board. RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me too, wish we still had the HOF board.

GAC
06-03-2005, 09:21 PM
Here's the latest on Denver weather

http://www.weather.com/outlook/homeandgarden/garden/local/USCO0105?from=search_current#

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:21 PM
Marty said that the Reds haven't activated Wily Mo yet. They are going to approach his return cautiously because he's been hurt so long. I'm trying not to pick apart that reasoning.

Wily Mo must not be MLB ready :explode:

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:21 PM
this does seem the proper time for a couple of well placed expletives

westofyou
06-03-2005, 09:22 PM
Maybe, just maybe the fast guys in the big ole outfield will help out extreme FB pitcher Eric Milton. Also note that a team that comes into Denver usually has a couple days until they catch up with the altitude, the effect is more severe on older guys with tight leg muscles.

Either way their bats wil be missed, but they should have a good time watching Pixie and Dixie chase flyballs all night

pedro
06-03-2005, 09:24 PM
http://www.tv-nostalgie.de/Sound/Pixie5.jpg

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:24 PM
Wily Mo must not be MLB ready :explode:

Marty is confused about why Wily Mo's not up. Says minor league at bats are the same as major league at bats, doesn't get how that is taking it slow with Wily Mo and says logical thinking would be to have Wily Mo help the big league club.

membengal
06-03-2005, 09:25 PM
Marty is confused about why Wily Mo's not up. Says minor league at bats are the same as major league at bats, doesn't get how that is taking it slow with Wily Mo and says logical thinking would be to have Wily Mo help the big league club.

Well at least Marty has come around on Wily Mo then. That's nice to hear.

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:25 PM
Maybe Dan O is avoiding a Pena/Kearns battle? or he's making sure he has a spot to slide Aurilia in the line up ;)

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:25 PM
Marty is confused about why Wily Mo's not up. Says minor league at bats are the same as major league at bats, doesn't get how that is taking it slow with Wily Mo and says logical thinking would be to have Wily Mo help the big league club.I am sure Romano will be more helpful tonight

membengal
06-03-2005, 09:25 PM
Maybe Dan O is avoiding a Pena/Kearns battle? or he's making sure he has a spot to slide Aurilia in the line up ;)

technically, he's avoiding a pena/aurilia battle...

RedsBaron
06-03-2005, 09:26 PM
Marty is confused about why Wily Mo's not up. Says minor league at bats are the same as major league at bats, doesn't get how that is taking it slow with Wily Mo and says logical thinking would be to have Wily Mo help the big league club.
Why would anyone expect logical thinking from Reds management? :bang:

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:27 PM
Maybe Dan O is avoiding a Pena/Kearns battle? or he's making sure he has a spot to slide Aurilia in the line up ;)

After tonight's lineup at Coors, absolutely nothing would surprise me anymore.

I have never ever said this before, but I truly believe Dave Miley is incompetent and should be replaced. Pronto!

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:28 PM
Game's starting.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:28 PM
After tonight's lineup at Coors, absolutely nothing would surprise me anymore.

I have never ever said this before, but I truly believe Dave Miley is incompetent and should be replaced. Pronto!the thing is whenever you think it can't get any worse.

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:28 PM
Go Reds :cool:

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 09:28 PM
Are we having fun yet?

Crash Davis
06-03-2005, 09:29 PM
Livan Hernandez pitch count: 148 and counting in the 9th inning of a 2-2 game.

RedsBaron
06-03-2005, 09:29 PM
Think I'll join you, FCB. Never, ever, been as disgusted with a Reds manager as I am now with Miley. He has no business managing this team. A total "meat head."
Ray Knight...Russ Nixon...Vern Rapp...Bob Boone...Don Heffner. There have been some terrible Reds managers since I became a Reds fan. I'm amazed that Miley has been able to become the worst Reds manager in my lifetime.

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:29 PM
http://www.tv-nostalgie.de/Sound/Pixie5.jpg
Nice mice

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:30 PM
Livan Hernandez pitch count: 148 and counting in the 9th inning of a 2-2 game.
Won't matter..he's got a bionic arm

GAC
06-03-2005, 09:30 PM
Game starting, and the GACster has cracked open his first beer.

Chat is open for all your frustration needs! ;)

westofyou
06-03-2005, 09:31 PM
Nice mice

Pixie and Dixie 21st century boy

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:33 PM
Pixie and Dixie 21st century boy
I won't have spent a majority of my life in this century till 2019 :p:

Crash Davis
06-03-2005, 09:33 PM
Won't matter..he's got a bionic arm

Possibly. If anybody can throw 150 and come out of it just fine and dandy, it's Livan.

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 09:33 PM
In other games....Livan Hernandez is pitching like it's 1967 i.e. no pitch counts to worry about.

He has thrown about 150 pitches right now as he has gone into the 9th inning against FLA.

traderumor
06-03-2005, 09:33 PM
Game starting, and the GACster has cracked open his first beer.

I think that's what Miley said when he wrote out the lineup :all_cohol

SirFelixCat
06-03-2005, 09:34 PM
This is absolutely stupid. Plain and simple. I officially have joined the "Miley can't get run out of Cincinnati fast enough" club. Pathetic.



This is one of those instances that I can't quite bring myself to root for our boys to lose, but I wouldn't be torn up if we lose a close one, as a jab at Miley for not starting your two biggest boppers.

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 09:36 PM
Whoops....did not realize that was already posted before i did it.


I pulled a MIley and was not reading....paying attention.....to anything or any stat....just off in my own little world.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:37 PM
Helton out of the lineup ... Hurdle must be trying to matchup with the Reds

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:38 PM
I definitely hope we win, but I hope that Aurilia and Ramano (the Dunn Griffey replacements) contribute zilch and make a couple errors to boot.

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:38 PM
There is one great team sitting on the bench

TeamDunn
06-03-2005, 09:38 PM
Helton out of the lineup ... Hurdle must be trying to matchup with the Reds

Maybe COL feels guilty and is trying to level the playing field a bit? :p:

SirFelixCat
06-03-2005, 09:38 PM
I definitely hope we win, but I hope that Aurilia and Ramano (the Dunn Griffey replacements) contribute zilch and make a couple errors to boot.


See post #101. :beerme:

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:39 PM
Maybe COL feels guilty and is trying to level the playing field a bit? :p:

Hey if we aren't trying why should they? ;)

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:43 PM
this lineup is one of the saddest sights in recent Reds history

Chip R
06-03-2005, 09:44 PM
Maybe, just maybe the fast guys in the big ole outfield will help out extreme FB pitcher Eric Milton. Also note that a team that comes into Denver usually has a couple days until they catch up with the altitude, the effect is more severe on older guys with tight leg muscles.

I was thinking the same thing with Milton on the mound. Nevertheless if you're going to do that, put Dunn at 1st or something. This lineup is the worst.

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 09:44 PM
Gameday shows Freel popping out on a 3-1 pitch in the dirt. Is that right?

Lopez flies to left.

Casey walks and Kearns singles.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:46 PM
you win in Coors by outslugging your opponent. Colorado tried the speedy OF thing and it was a disaster. The rocks were at the best when Bichette was in LF, nuff said.

TeamDunn
06-03-2005, 09:47 PM
So weather is now going to be a factor in Jr and Dunn playing? Mind you, as far as WE know a HEALTHY Jr and Dunn????

He sits his best players for rain.

If it were not our team it would be funny. :help:

flyer85
06-03-2005, 09:47 PM
Gameday shows Freel popping out on a 3-1 pitch in the dirt. Is that right?

Lopez flies to left.

Casey walks and Kearns singles.freel grounded to SS

membengal
06-03-2005, 09:48 PM
See, right there where Randa grounded out to end the inning? I might have been interested in seeing what Dunn could do in that spot.

God love the second guessing, it can go on all night long.

Dave Miley, the managerial gift that keeps on giving...

savafan
06-03-2005, 09:48 PM
Thinking that tonight will be the turning point of the season, Miley had his starters pose for a picture before the game to remember this moment.

http://www2.cruzio.com/~webcab/HutmacherDoug/final/images/team.jpg

TeamDunn
06-03-2005, 09:49 PM
Thinking that tonight will be the turning point of the season, Miley had his starters pose for a picture before the game to remember this moment.

http://www2.cruzio.com/~webcab/HutmacherDoug/final/images/team.jpg

That team could beat this lineup! :bang:

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 09:50 PM
Thinking that tonight will be the turning point of the season, Miley had his starters pose for a picture before the game to remember this moment.

http://www2.cruzio.com/~webcab/HutmacherDoug/final/images/team.jpg

Is that kid wearing a doo-rag or is that LONG hair?

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:51 PM
Lets make some trades with that team

RosieRed
06-03-2005, 09:51 PM
Just because I found it, and I can post it:

Colorado Rockies pitcher Jeff Francis performs for his teammates in a short skit in the first full team workouts in Tucson, Ariz., Thursday, Feb. 24, 2005. (AP Photo/John Miller)

TeamDunn
06-03-2005, 09:52 PM
Why can't George and Chris rip apart the lineup? Even just a little?

I don't give a rats behind about the other team right now. :bang:

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:53 PM
Nice hair on Jeff :D

pedro
06-03-2005, 09:53 PM
That's a great picture.

CrackerJack
06-03-2005, 09:53 PM
Milton's getting warmed up...<sarcasm>

RosieRed
06-03-2005, 09:53 PM
I'm listening to the Rockies' radio guys. They've been pleasant so far.

TeamDunn
06-03-2005, 09:54 PM
Is Marty saying anything?

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:54 PM
I'm listening to the Rockies' radio guys. They've been pleasant so far.
They like the other teams lineup ;)

Falls City Beer
06-03-2005, 09:55 PM
Milton's getting warmed up...

It's like that big gulp of air a kid takes before crying his lungs out. My grandma called it "tuning up."

GAC
06-03-2005, 09:56 PM
Dunn, if ESPN stats are correct, has a career OPS at Coors of 1.312. Griffey? Only a carerr OPS of 1.412 at Coors.

letsgojunior
06-03-2005, 09:56 PM
Milton's getting warmed up...<sarcasm>

snortle

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 09:57 PM
I don't think Chris and George would say anything about the lineup. They might get fired if they said DM has his head you-know-where!

And I feel bad about what I said about Romano. I like him. I just don't like seeing him play instead of Adam Dunn.

I don't feel bad about Aurilia.

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 09:59 PM
Dunn, if ESPN stats are correct, has a career OPS at Coors of 1.312. Griffey? Only a carerr OPS of 1.412 at Coors.

Not scrappy enough

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 09:59 PM
Not scrappy enough

Not spunky enough.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:00 PM
Aurilia and Romano should only start in case of emergency

RosieRed
06-03-2005, 10:00 PM
Dunn, if ESPN stats are correct, has a career OPS at Coors of 1.312. Griffey? Only a carerr OPS of 1.412 at Coors.

Doesn't matter. This is Francis' Coors, not regular Coors.

Or something like that. I don't know.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 10:00 PM
Milton should be kissing Felipe's feet in the dugout about now.

I'm a bit perplexed as to why Milton signed a three-yr contract with the Reds when he had to be convinced to come to Cincinnati in the first place. Maybe he doesn't like it much and is trying to pitch himself off the team.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:01 PM
way to wait for a strike RA

CrackerJack
06-03-2005, 10:01 PM
And I feel bad about what I said about Romano. I like him. I just don't like seeing him play instead of Adam Dunn.

I don't feel bad about Aurilia.



Ouch. :laugh:

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 10:02 PM
Here I go beating that dead horse.

Rich Aurilia is worthless. I can play better than that and I'll do it for free.

TeamDunn
06-03-2005, 10:03 PM
<----------------------

Send your complaints. :)

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 10:04 PM
Milton should be kissing Felipe's feet in the dugout about now.

I'm a bit perplexed as to why Milton signed a three-yr contract with the Reds when he had to be convinced to come to Cincinnati in the first place. Maybe he doesn't like it much and is trying to pitch himself off the team.

Good financial move, nobody else would have given him 25 mill over 3 years

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:07 PM
the Reds really ought to get Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels play the part of GM and manager

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 10:08 PM
Well guys I've reached the point I do every year it seems..a "Aww well" feeling..Reds stink..we can't do a thing about it..may as well accept defeat :bang:

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 10:08 PM
Good financial move, nobody else would have given him 25 mill over 3 years

They beat out the Yankees and other winning clubs. Ok, maybe they beat out themselves...


...the othe clubs they "outbid" are laughing right now

Chip R
06-03-2005, 10:08 PM
the Reds really ought to get Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels play the part of GM and managerThey are overqualified.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:09 PM
Marc said this one(the lineup) just eludes him. Marty agrees

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 10:09 PM
I think we're all eluded

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 10:10 PM
They beat out the Yankees and other winning clubs. Ok, maybe they beat out themselves...


...the othe clubs they "outbid" are laughing right now

He'll win the cy young next year


HEY I can dream :D

RedlegJake
06-03-2005, 10:10 PM
Miley looks for reasons to sit his best players - lefty matchups, etc. Good managers look for reasons NOT to sit their best players.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:11 PM
"OK gang, you know the rules, no humping, no licking, no sniffing hineys. "

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:12 PM
Good managers look for reasons NOT to sit their best players.good managers play their best players because they know they are their best players.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 10:12 PM
There are many reasons I don't like Aurilia.... I think he's a whiner, has DM wrapped around his finger for some reason, takes playing time away from guys that are better, won the starting SS gig when he didn't deserve it and now expects it.

I still haven't figured out why the Reds even signed him. I know DOB hates Barry Larkin, but he could have had him for the same (probably less) and he's a better player, especially his bat, even at his age.

Betcha $$$ to donuts that if they HAD kept Barry, he'd be riding the pine... but not 'ol Rich!

CrackerJack
06-03-2005, 10:13 PM
Here we go...

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:13 PM
"Man, you are one pathetic loser. No offense. "

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 10:13 PM
Pujols is on one of my fantasy teams... I don't think he's sat out one game yet (maybe, but I don't think so).

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 10:14 PM
"Man, you are one pathetic loser. No offense. "

"oh, no...none taken."

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:17 PM
"Here it is! "Samsonite"! I was way off! I knew it started with an "S" though. "

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 10:17 PM
Well, it's only the 2nd inning and already I'm disgusted with Milton's attempt at pitching. And I just sit here shaking my head.

I am such a grump tonight.

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 10:18 PM
"Here it is! "Samsonite"! I was way off! I knew it started with an "S" though. "

"noooo way......WE LANDED ON THE MOON!!"

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 10:19 PM
Milton will be the pitcher on Wily Mo bobble head night

Plan of attack..get the bobble head and head to the Levy for Pizza ;)

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:20 PM
"Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself! "

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:21 PM
"I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this."

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 10:22 PM
"Nice set of Hooters you got there."

"..excuse me?"


"The owls...they're beautiful."

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 10:22 PM
Milton will be the pitcher on Wily Mo bobble head night

Plan of attack..get the bobble head and head to the Levy for Pizza ;)

Are you serious? :bang: I'm going to that game. I need to make a note to remind myself to wear body armour that game.

Aronchis
06-03-2005, 10:22 PM
Milton with no homers through 2. Good job pal :beerme:

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:23 PM
"Austria! Well, then. G'day mate! Let's put another shrimp on the barbie!"

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 10:24 PM
"...so you're saying there's a chance......YEEAAAH!!"

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 10:24 PM
Are you serious? :bang: I'm going to that game. I need to make a note to remind myself to wear body armour that game.
If my source from another board is correct..then yeppers :help:

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:25 PM
as soon as the Reds leave the stros go back to getting shutout. Whoda thunkit.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:26 PM
"...so you're saying there's a chance......YEEAAAH!!""Not good like one in a hundred?

I'd say more like one in a million."

GAC
06-03-2005, 10:27 PM
With this lineup, it's obvious that Miley is playing small ball at Coors Field. That's a first for any manager! :lol:

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:28 PM
W2ho knows what the score would be if Wilson hadn't hit that rocket right at Randa

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:30 PM
"I got worms! That's what we're going to call it. We're going to specialize in selling worm farms."

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 10:32 PM
The more I think about it... maybe they should have kept Danny to replace Milton. His ERA was better (5.33 at the end of the season in 2003).

I'm so sad.

GAC
06-03-2005, 10:34 PM
Why in the world do you walk the #8 hitter with 2 outs to get to the pitcher???

Geez! Idiocy reins in that dugout.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 10:35 PM
Hmmm, do I finally hear Chris Welsh criticizing DM? Finally? Didn't like the IW of the 8th batter.

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 10:36 PM
Milton has allowed 9 baserunners in 3 innings. He's lucky they've only scored 2 runs.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:36 PM
"You kiss mine! Both cheeks, both lips, right here"

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 10:37 PM
"Wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?"

realreds1
06-03-2005, 10:39 PM
Kearns - long ball.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 10:39 PM
Way to go Kearnsy!

RosieRed
06-03-2005, 10:39 PM
YAY Austin! :party:

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:39 PM
wow scored on a HR. Whoda thunkit

How many pop flies might Jr and Dunn have hit out tonight

savafan
06-03-2005, 10:39 PM
Why in the world do you walk the #8 hitter with 2 outs to get to the pitcher???

Geez! Idiocy reins in that dugout.

You always want the opposing pitcher leading off the inning when you can.

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 10:40 PM
How fitting that we're discussing the movie Dumb and Dumber tonight, because that perfectly describes Dave Miley and Dan O'Brien.

http://www.sports-point.com/images/Dumb%20and%20Dumber.jpg

GAC
06-03-2005, 10:40 PM
Ears Homers.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:41 PM
How fitting that we're discussing the movie Dumb and Dumber tonight, because that perfectly describes Dave Miley and Dan O'Brien.

http://www.sports-point.com/images/Dumb%20and%20Dumber.jpgKindoff hoping people would catch on

realreds1
06-03-2005, 10:41 PM
Richy at the bat.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:42 PM
rich took a ball

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:42 PM
nice swing on a ball over his head

realreds1
06-03-2005, 10:42 PM
Richy strikes out. So much for all those career homers in Coors.

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 10:44 PM
Kearns is the man.

Big Klu
06-03-2005, 10:44 PM
I just woke up, and this is the lineup I find?! No Griffey OR Dunn?! What kind of Bizarro World is me woke up to?!

http://theages.superman.ws/Encyclopaedia/Bizarro1.jpg

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 10:45 PM
The more I think about it... maybe they should have kept Danny to replace Milton. His ERA was better (5.33 at the end of the season in 2003).

I'm so sad.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Kronosb/BigHug.gif

flyer85
06-03-2005, 10:45 PM
way to throw the bat at it

realreds1
06-03-2005, 10:47 PM
Walk and a hit batter. Woohoo! Baserunners! (Progress...)

RosieRed
06-03-2005, 10:47 PM
Can Milton hit a HR in Coors?

;)

realreds1
06-03-2005, 10:48 PM
Can Milton hit a HR in Coors?

;)

I can hit one just sitting here!

realreds1
06-03-2005, 10:50 PM
I wonder if Coors Field security stops Jeff Francis and asks him where his parents are at. This guy looks about 15.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 10:55 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Kronosb/BigHug.gif

That's so cute! Thanks!

I just realized that I'm totally bored by this game (I can't even believe I just said that). But I know why... it's just not as interesting when AD and KGJr aren't playing.

RosieRed
06-03-2005, 10:56 PM
I wonder if Coors Field security stops Jeff Francis and asks him where his parents are at. This guy looks about 15.

He's a cutie. With a nice kick too. ;)

http://www.canoe.ca/Apr8/slam1.jpg

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 11:00 PM
Aurilia for Francis? :D

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:02 PM
I haven't seen anything from Francis that looks tough on lefties. He seems to be a fastball changeup pitcher

realreds1
06-03-2005, 11:02 PM
Aurilia for popcorn...

Big Klu
06-03-2005, 11:05 PM
I hate called third strikes.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 11:05 PM
No way that was a strike on Kearns (the second one, I missed the 3rd one because I'm typing). It was quite a bit below his knees.

Calls like that are infuriating.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:06 PM
he sad part is that Miley is constantly messing up when and where to use his best PHers. I wouldn't be surprised if the Reds lose and neither Dunn or Jr bat in the game.

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 11:07 PM
There's 1!

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:07 PM
Gopher boy is back. Wilson has smoked the ball three times

Joseph
06-03-2005, 11:07 PM
I'm out of the HR projection thread.

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 11:07 PM
Home run for the Rockies

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 11:08 PM
FYI: 84 mph fastball :bang: :bang:

realreds1
06-03-2005, 11:09 PM
Who has Milton in the pool for "worst Reds signing in the modern era?"

Matt700wlw
06-03-2005, 11:09 PM
Milton's pitches are getting up

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:09 PM
game is almost over

SteelSD
06-03-2005, 11:10 PM
Milton's egg timer went off. Whoopsie.

traderumor
06-03-2005, 11:11 PM
Welsh just said the Rockies have been playing small ball. I think they are sitting on a homer, a triple, and two or three doubles. Ummmm, Chris, that's not small ball.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:12 PM
Welsh just said the Rockies have been playing small ball. I think they are sitting on a homer, a triple, and two or three doubles. Ummmm, Chris, that's not small ball.it was when Chris was pitching.

BoydsOfSummer
06-03-2005, 11:17 PM
Holy crap......Aurilia is channeling Bret Boone for one play all of a sudden...


Or was he playing up the middle already? I really wasn't paying much attention.

Aronchis
06-03-2005, 11:17 PM
Milton looks drained. I would have that elbow checked.

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 11:18 PM
When RA makes plays like that......you know MIley is thinking he deserves another start at 2B.

savafan
06-03-2005, 11:20 PM
well, as for the thread title, Milton has given up 1 homerun, and Dunn's not allowed to play

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:21 PM
When RA makes plays like that......you know MIley is thinking he deserves another start at 2B.maybe three or four

Now a HR ... might be in for the next week

realreds1
06-03-2005, 11:21 PM
Richy Rich on the goner train!

savafan
06-03-2005, 11:21 PM
Dammit, now Aurilia's gonna play tomorrow too.

Joseph
06-03-2005, 11:21 PM
Aurilia should be the starter at SS.

Just kidding.

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 11:21 PM
oh boy. more reason to play him again.

traderumor
06-03-2005, 11:22 PM
Rockies? There's your SS. Desi Relaford? C'mon :evil:

TeamBoone
06-03-2005, 11:22 PM
so who sits tomorrow.... Kearns I bet.

OnBaseMachine
06-03-2005, 11:23 PM
Great. Now Rich will start and bat 2nd for the next month.

westofyou
06-03-2005, 11:23 PM
Rich Aurlia is Italian for Tony Batista Lite.

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 11:23 PM
OKAY.....now does this mean RA has won the starting 2B job?

traderumor
06-03-2005, 11:23 PM
See, Aurilia makes that play, and I mean second baseman

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:23 PM
So who will Miley send up to PH for Milton?

Luis Lopez?

savafan
06-03-2005, 11:23 PM
The worst case scenario, Reds losing and Aurilia and Romano playing well.

Big Klu
06-03-2005, 11:24 PM
Rockies? There's your SS. Desi Relaford? C'mon :evil:

Except Relaford is playing 2B. :cool:

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 11:25 PM
Dammit, now Aurilia's gonna play tomorrow too.

He just won a job for a month.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:25 PM
Romano swings at ball 3 over his head

SteelSD
06-03-2005, 11:25 PM
Ok. Romano just swung at a pitch LITERALLY above his head.

Tony Cloninger
06-03-2005, 11:25 PM
You know who i miss during these bad times.....Mike De La Hoz. ;)

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:25 PM
inning would look different if Romano had taken the walk.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:26 PM
I would send up Dunn and leave him in

Miley is a retard(maybe only mildly)

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 11:26 PM
Gotta save Dunn and JR for extras flyer.


;)

savafan
06-03-2005, 11:27 PM
Jacob Cruz :bang:

SteelSD
06-03-2005, 11:27 PM
Now more puzzling moves...

Pinch hit opportunity and we see a LH hitter against a LH pitcher but he's not our LH power who couldn't start tonight versus the LH pitcher and they're being saved until the point at which we won't either need them or use them.

Miley's a freakin' braniac.

SteelSD
06-03-2005, 11:28 PM
inning would look different if Romano had taken the walk.

And it ain't like Francis didn't try giving it to him.

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:28 PM
What logic sends up Cruz here? What is the thought process?

KronoRed
06-03-2005, 11:28 PM
Cruz is the PH..that's just how it is

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:29 PM
Miley's a freakin' braniac.he's missing one

flyer85
06-03-2005, 11:29 PM
swing at ball 4, good deal