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pedro
06-10-2005, 07:13 PM
Ok, my gamethreads have been lucky last few nights. Let's see if it sticks.

From Yahoo...

Still searching for their first interleague series win of the season, the AL East-leading Baltimore Orioles open a three-game set with the Cincinnati Reds at Great American Ball Park.

The Orioles lead the East by three games, thanks in no part to their 2-4 record in interleague play.

Baltimore's offense was handcuffed by Pittsburgh's Kip Wells as the Orioles lost their second straight game to the Pirates 6-1 on Wednesday.

The Orioles lost for the first time in nine road series this season (6-1-2), and in 14 road series (10-1-3) since losing two of three at Texas last Aug. 27-29.

``We've got to pick it up, we've got to go out and win, and there's no question this team will do that, this team is like that,'' Baltimore manager Lee Mazzilli said.

The streak of 13 consecutive road series without a loss was the majors' longest since Atlanta had a 16-series run in 2002. The road streak was one short of Baltimore's franchise best of 14 straight in 1983.

The Orioles hope to have second baseman Brian Roberts back in the lineup as they finish up a 13-game trip against the Reds.

Roberts has missed eight consecutive starts with a shoulder injury. He's been used as a pinch-hitter over the last two games, a sign that he may be getting ready to rejoin Baltimore's lineup.

Roberts doubled in his only at-bat Wednesday to raise his AL-leading batting average to .369. He leads Baltimore with 13 stolen bases and his 12 homers are second on the team to Miguel Tejada's 17.

The Orioles take on a Cincinnati squad that is coming off a three-game sweep of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

Luke Hudson won his season debut with six solid innings, and the suddenly revived Reds routed the Devil Rays 14-5 on Thursday.

``We've got some confidence going,'' Cincinnati first baseman Sean Casey said.

The Reds rallied from five-run deficits in each of the first two games of the series, the first time they'd done so since 1918.



Baltimore
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
B. Roberts 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .369
D. Newhan cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .209
M. Mora 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .309
M. Tejada ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .328
S. Sosa rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .248
R. Palmeiro 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .251
B.J.Surhoff lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .318
G. Gil c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .188
R. Lopez p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Freel 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .314
J. Randa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .299
S. Casey 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .322
K. Griffey cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272
W. Pena rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .323
A. Dunn lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .241
F. Lopez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .299
J. LaRue c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .245
A. Harang p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .034

pedro
06-10-2005, 07:17 PM
I hope we're getting the Baltimore anouncers tonight. I'm scared of how much sunshine George Grande might blow up Tejada's skirt. We all know his story.....

CTA513
06-10-2005, 07:18 PM
Reds Orioles
1. R Freel, 2B 1. B Roberts, 2B
2. J Randa, 3B 2. D Newhan, CF
3. S Casey, 1B 3. M Mora, 3B
4. K Griffey Jr., CF 4. M Tejada, SS
5. W Pena, RF 5. S Sosa, RF
6. A Dunn, LF 6. R Palmeiro, 1B
7. F Lopez, SS 7. B Surhoff, LF
8. J LaRue, C 8. G Gil, C
9. A Harang, P 9. R Lopez, P

pedro
06-10-2005, 07:20 PM
where'd you get the lineups? not on yahoo yet.

Mitri
06-10-2005, 07:22 PM
Right people/wrong order once again, guess we have to get used to that.

I have a good feeling the Reds can take 2 out of 3 this weekend. Let's do this!

CTA513
06-10-2005, 07:23 PM
where'd you get the lineups? not on yahoo yet.

foxsports.com

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 07:23 PM
Any manager who puts Pena infront of Dunn is a madman. Who is the OBP guy, who is the big slugger. I guess Miley doesn't know............sad.

Fullboat
06-10-2005, 07:40 PM
Any word on the weather?

Reds Fanatic
06-10-2005, 07:54 PM
Any word on the weather?
There is a 30% chance of thunderstorms but it looks like most of the storms are out of the area so they should have no trouble getting the game in.

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 07:55 PM
Any word on the weather?

Ok right now....it's a matter of the stuff heading up from Kentucky. Depends if it makes it here and depends on the direction of it

pedro
06-10-2005, 07:55 PM
Any word on the weather?

Tonight: Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms. Low 66F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 30%.

Fullboat
06-10-2005, 08:00 PM
Thanks Guys. :thumbup:

Fullboat
06-10-2005, 08:07 PM
Welch kills me "prepare to see a HR or two tonight"
With our pitching staff you think?

puca
06-10-2005, 08:07 PM
Any manager who puts Pena infront of Dunn is a madman. Who is the OBP guy, who is the big slugger. I guess Miley doesn't know............sad.

Any manager that bats Randa and Casey 2/3 while Dunn and Lopez are batting 6/7 is a .... well he doesn't know what he is doing.

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 08:07 PM
Ok right now....it's a matter of the stuff heading up from Kentucky. Depends if it makes it here and depends on the direction of it

Latest radar looks like the stuff from KY is drying up as it moves, and looks as though what is left will travel east of Cincinnati....

....I think we'll be OK

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 08:29 PM
WMP on Sosa's last AB: "that look familiar".

Fullboat
06-10-2005, 08:31 PM
Sosa looks like he shrunk two sizes

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 08:32 PM
Sosa is going downhill faster than this guy

http://www.cccsc.asn.au/Pictures/PCD2452/21.jpg

FlyingPig
06-10-2005, 08:34 PM
Watching the game down here in NC on FSN on the Baltimore network..

The announcers are throwing Harang many, many compliments..

Plus they informed us that Sosa has hit more home runs against the Reds than any other team..

PuffyPig
06-10-2005, 08:35 PM
Any manager who puts Pena infront of Dunn is a madman. Who is the OBP guy, who is the big slugger. I guess Miley doesn't know............sad.

Pena's .839 SL % suggests he has some ability in that area. I have no problem hitting Pena in front of Dunn, as it helps the L-R thing too. But Dunn should be 3rd, so the issue shouldn't come up.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 08:38 PM
Lately, Dunn just can't seem to lay off that down and away pitch(that's where gameday located the pitch). He tries to pull it everytime and it ends up as a weak groundout. I have no idea why he's been chasing that pitch.

Joseph
06-10-2005, 08:46 PM
I blame Chambliss.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 08:53 PM
3-0 O's on a Mora 3 run bomb.

Joseph
06-10-2005, 08:53 PM
It's a shame these aren't the D-rays.

I hate seeing this staff give up home runs like that.

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 08:53 PM
Mora lauches a 3 run johnson off of Harang

3-0 Os

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 08:53 PM
Harang circa 2004. Welcome Back. Give up the big fly.

Time to go out and *er* calm him, Don.

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 08:55 PM
Harang being to even up a little.

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 08:58 PM
Harang being to even up a little.

Yep. I still say I'll be shocked if his SLG Against is below .450 by season's end.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Felipe hits his 9th homer.

3-1

lollipopcurve
06-10-2005, 09:11 PM
Last night Grande was quick to point out that Aurilia made "3 smart plays." Even after he fanned in his last AB, George enumerated all the good things Aurilia had done.

I wonder if Felipe's HR was a "smart play." Probably not.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 09:29 PM
I'm watching the Florida-Florida State super regionals game. Florida just hit back-to-back-to-back homeruns and lead FSU 7-1.

flyer85
06-10-2005, 09:31 PM
walked Dunn on 4 straight changeups. Don't see that pitch combo very often.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Still 3-1 in the 5th. Pena leads off the inning with a double to left. Dunn walks on 4 straight pitches.

Felipe reaches on infield single. Bases loaded, 0 outs.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 09:40 PM
Reds load the bases with 0 outs and don't score.

3-1 Baltimore after 5.

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 09:40 PM
Wow, that was pretty.

RFS62
06-10-2005, 09:41 PM
I wonder if we could trade Miley, Gullet and Hume for Ray Miller.

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 09:48 PM
I wonder if we could trade Miley, Gullet and Hume for Ray Miller.

I'd trade Miley, Gullett and Hume for my mother. She can crack some skulls, that woman.

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 09:53 PM
Hal Morris with another single, hopefully Griff and Pena can do something with it ;)

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 09:53 PM
Nice...Griffey with a well-placed location bunt!

LvJ
06-10-2005, 09:54 PM
Griffey loves doing that. :)

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 09:54 PM
Griffey lays down a bunt single after Casey singled. 1st and 2nd, 1 out for Wily Mo.

savafan
06-10-2005, 09:54 PM
Griffey with a bunt single! :thumbup:

Big Klu
06-10-2005, 09:55 PM
Chris just said that one of the batter's (in this case, Griffey's) responsibilities is to not make an out. :eek:

LvJ
06-10-2005, 09:56 PM
Loaded for Dunn :dancingcoo

flyer85
06-10-2005, 09:57 PM
that was a quick hook

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 09:58 PM
that was a quick hook

You can do that when you've got a bullpen. ;)

flyer85
06-10-2005, 09:58 PM
dunn is 3-14 off of Kline with a HR and 4BBs and 4Ks

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 09:58 PM
Sac Fly Chance

Raisor
06-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Dunn should get a sac-fly for that pastball.

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Sac Fly Chance

Pop out to shallow left :laugh:

Nobody can move

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:02 PM
:dunno: Almost a sac fly.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 10:02 PM
Dunn fouls the first pitch, again chases a ball down and away for strike 2, passed ball or wild pitch scores a run, ball 2, popout to SS.

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 10:02 PM
Pop out to shallow left :laugh:

Nobody can move

Blast, they should have sent him anyway ;)

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 10:03 PM
Lopez takes a strike, ball away, groundout to SS.

3-2 after 6.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 10:07 PM
I was reading the Reds Live version of the game thread. Dunn is getting mildly critcised for not getting that run in. That's funny because last inning LaRue, Harang, and Freel all failed to get a runner in with the bases loaded and now Felipe strands a runner. But you guessed it, out of those five players-- Dunn is the one that gets the blame.

:dunno:

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 10:11 PM
I was reading the Reds Live version of the game thread. Dunn is getting mildly critcised for not getting that run in. That's funny because last inning LaRue, Harang, and Freel all failed to get a runner in with the bases loaded and now Felipe strands a runner. But you guessed it, out of those five players-- Dunn is the one that gets the blame.

:dunno:

I'm not defending Freel, Larue or Harang necessarily, but Dunn gets paid the jack to get it done; right now, the guy is flopping like koi on the floor of a sushi bar.

PuffyPig
06-10-2005, 10:14 PM
I was reading the Reds Live version of the game thread. Dunn is getting mildly critcised for not getting that run in. That's funny because last inning LaRue, Harang, and Freel all failed to get a runner in with the bases loaded and now Felipe strands a runner. But you guessed it, out of those five players-- Dunn is the one that gets the blame.

:dunno:

I'd put Larue with Dunn, But Harang is a pitcher, and Lopez and Freel needed a hit to score the runner.

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:15 PM
7 IP, 10 Ks.

I love you Aaron. :runaway:

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Harang with a bulldog night.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 10:17 PM
He may be struggling a bit lately, but the guy has still did more to help this team win than anybody else. A lot of people on this board just don't like Dunn and they criticize him every chance they get.

A Dunn strikeout results in a 5 page thread on why he be traded. A Casey double play or Pena strikeout is usually overlooked.

lollipopcurve
06-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Great K on Roberts -- 94MPH high heat. Excellent outing from the big guy.

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 10:18 PM
He may be struggling a bit lately, but the guy has still did more to help this team win than anybody else. A lot of people on this board just don't like Dunn and they criticize him every chance they get.

A Dunn strikeout results in a 5 page thread on why he be traded. A Casey double play or Pena strikeout is usually overlooked.

I don't know, Casey's DPs (deservedly) get a lot of airplay.

savafan
06-10-2005, 10:20 PM
A Dunn strikeout results in a 5 page thread on why he be traded. A Casey double play or Pena strikeout is usually overlooked.

They only want to trade everyone else after a great game

flyer85
06-10-2005, 10:21 PM
Swinging at balls

PuffyPig
06-10-2005, 10:24 PM
A Casey double play .....is usually overlooked.

Where the ^%$&^ have you been hiding?

The mere existence of baserunners usually results in a plethora of posts releting to DP talk.

lollipopcurve
06-10-2005, 10:27 PM
Help.

Grande just said the acquisition of Aurilia (and Randa) has helped the Reds have more effective situational hitting.

Just lie, George. Just lie about it.

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:27 PM
Mora doubles

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 10:28 PM
Where the ^%$&^ have you been hiding?

The mere existence of baserunners usually results in a plethora of posts releting to DP talk.

You don't see 100 threads on why Casey should be traded like you get with Dunn. There may be a few here and there. If Dunn puts his underwear on wrong, there's about 20 threads on why he needs to be dealt.

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:28 PM
Why is Merker facing these RHers? :runaway:

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:29 PM
My goodness. :bowrofl:

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 10:29 PM
That was kinda ugly...

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:30 PM
That was kinda ugly... Kinda? :dunno:

savafan
06-10-2005, 10:30 PM
Why is Merker facing these RHers? :runaway:

Because Miley has no clue.

Marty just said that Dunn is a liability when he's not hitting. Isn't everyone?

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 10:30 PM
Box this one up, ship it out. It's done.

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 10:30 PM
Merker picks a good night to have a bad one. Maybe he wants Miley gone to?

Big Klu
06-10-2005, 10:30 PM
Horrible defensive play by Dunn. He misplayed it so badly that they can't even give him an error.

PuffyPig
06-10-2005, 10:31 PM
You don't see 100 threads on why Casey should be traded like you get with Dunn.

Aagin, where have you been hiding??????

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 10:31 PM
Because Miley has no clue.

Marty just said that Dunn is a liability when he's not hitting. Isn't everyone?

Marty is a liability in the booth. ;)

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 10:32 PM
Kinda? :dunno:

Trying to be nice.... ;)

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:32 PM
Dunn picks a good night to have a bad one. Maybe he wants Miley gone to? Fixed * :dunno:

savafan
06-10-2005, 10:36 PM
This is further proof that the Reds just got lucky by outslugging the DRays horrible pitching.

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 10:36 PM
This is further proof that the Reds just got lucky by outslugging the DRays horrible pitching.

You needed proof? :D

Big Klu
06-10-2005, 10:37 PM
Why is Merker facing these RHers? :runaway:

Why wouldn't the Reds want their best relief pitcher to pitch to more than one batter? OK, they got hits off of him this time, but Kent Mercker is still the Reds' best reliever.

Joseph
06-10-2005, 10:38 PM
Why wouldn't the Reds want their best relief pitcher to pitch to more than one batter? OK, they got hits off of him this time, but Kent Mercker is still the Reds' best reliever.

Agreed, except with the situation of inherited runners, then I'd put in almost anyone else.

flyer85
06-10-2005, 10:39 PM
I don't understand, O's are leading yet have struck out nine more times than the Reds.

PuffyPig
06-10-2005, 10:39 PM
This is further proof that the Reds just got lucky by outslugging the DRays horrible pitching.

THe fact that the Reds are 2nd in the NL in runs scored suggests that we've got the capacity to hit on a consistent basis.

I won't give up yet.

savafan
06-10-2005, 10:40 PM
OK, they got hits off of him this time, but Kent Mercker is still the Reds' best reliever.

You'd think that if you looked at the numbers, but Mercker has allowed a small village of inherited runners to score this season.

PuffyPig
06-10-2005, 10:41 PM
You'd think that if you looked at the numbers, but Mercker has allowed a small village of inherited runners to score this season.

So has the rest of the bullpen.

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 10:41 PM
THe fact that the Reds are 2nd in the NL in runs scored suggests that we've got the capacity to hit on a consistent basis.

I won't give up yet.

Unfortunately the pitching I don't think can handle it

flyer85
06-10-2005, 10:41 PM
O's have a real pen and one of the best closers in baseball

savafan
06-10-2005, 10:42 PM
Question: on average, how many at bats would a regular player have over a full season?

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:42 PM
He has a low ERA, but allows way too many base runners.

Big Klu
06-10-2005, 10:42 PM
You'd think that if you looked at the numbers, but Mercker has allowed a small village of inherited runners to score this season.

But these weren't inherited runners, and even when you consider the inherited runners that Mercker has allowed to score, he still has been the Reds' most effective reliever (with the exception of Randy Keisler).

Fullboat
06-10-2005, 10:43 PM
Our best reliever is that Keesler elf guy.

Big Klu
06-10-2005, 10:44 PM
Our best reliever is that Keesler elf guy.

And he should be starting.

Fullboat
06-10-2005, 10:45 PM
And he should be starting.

Agreed

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 10:45 PM
In 79 1/3 innings, Harang has only given up 6 HRs....I'll take that any day of the week

Joseph
06-10-2005, 10:47 PM
HR Junior!

LvJ
06-10-2005, 10:47 PM
Juniorey!@!!@!

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 10:47 PM
Griffey ties Mel Ott!

CrackerJack
06-10-2005, 10:52 PM
Aye yi yi Wily

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 10:53 PM
Ugly.

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 10:53 PM
Beyond ugly. He swung at some horrible pitches.

RFS62
06-10-2005, 10:54 PM
That looked like the old Wily Mo.

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 10:54 PM
Anybody ready to get Kearnsy back in the lineup?

I am. Kearns has a third outcome.

flyer85
06-10-2005, 10:56 PM
Julio has nasty stuff. Have to take the bad with the good

PuffyPig
06-10-2005, 10:56 PM
O's have a real pen and one of the best closers in baseball

Kinda like that Baez guy FCB was pimping 2 nights ago?

Aronchis
06-10-2005, 10:56 PM
Anybody ready to get Kearnsy back in the lineup?

I am. Kearns has a third outcome.

Kearns isn't slugging worth anything. That is why he isn't in the lineup. Kearns probably softly lines out, K's like Pena or grounds out. Intill he starts slugging, no Kearns. With Pena, you have to take the bad with the good.

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 10:57 PM
Anybody ready to get Kearnsy back in the lineup?

I am. Kearns has a third outcome.

Because of 1 0fer game by Pena?

No...Kearns has had plenty of time to prove himself with Pena out, and besides a flash or two, has not shown much (except a heck of an arm out in right field)

TC81190
06-10-2005, 10:57 PM
Question: on average, how many at bats would a regular player have over a full season?

About 600.

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 10:58 PM
Kinda like that Baez guy FCB was pimping 2 nights ago?

Baez is better than any pitcher the Reds currently have in their bullpen. Name a metric, and he wipes the floor with any current Red.

flyer85
06-10-2005, 10:58 PM
Kinda like that Baez guy FCB was pimping 2 nights ago?nothing like that. Ex-Red Ryan is the real deal. He has 48Ks in 30IP.

Fullboat
06-10-2005, 10:58 PM
Anybody ready to get Kearnsy back in the lineup?

I am. Kearns has a third outcome.


What Mr SO Looking.

PuffyPig
06-10-2005, 10:59 PM
Because of 1 0fer game by Pena?

No...Kearns has had plenty of time to prove himself with Pena out, and besides a flash or two, has not shown much (except a heck of an arm out in right field)

Pena is 1-4 (double) tonight.

I'm not sure I would bench Pena for a 1 game .500 SL% for Kearns who can't accomplish that on a good day.

Falls City Beer
06-10-2005, 10:59 PM
Because of 1 0fer game by Pena?

No...Kearns has had plenty of time to prove himself with Pena out, and besides a flash or two, has not shown much (except a heck of an arm out in right field)

I don't think Pena should be kicked out of the rotation, just rotated.

savafan
06-10-2005, 11:00 PM
About 600.

Thanks

Matt700wlw
06-10-2005, 11:01 PM
I don't think Pena should be kicked out of the rotation, just rotated.

I disagree. For now.

TC81190
06-10-2005, 11:02 PM
I disagree.

I agree about disagreeing.

REDJAKE
06-10-2005, 11:03 PM
Wish Dunn would have givin way to a right hander.

flyer85
06-10-2005, 11:04 PM
that's what a real closer looks like

flyer85
06-10-2005, 11:05 PM
Wish Dunn would have givin way to a right hander.wouldn't have made a difference. Ryan didn't have much trouble with Lopez or Larue

OnBaseMachine
06-10-2005, 11:06 PM
Wish Dunn would have givin way to a right hander.

Who would you suggest?

REDJAKE
06-10-2005, 11:06 PM
Your right there it probably wouldn't have mattered

flyer85
06-10-2005, 11:06 PM
Notice how differently the game was managed the last 3 innings. Mazilli used a bunch a different pitchers and got no bad matchups. Having Mercker pitch to Mora and Tejada in was a matchup in favor of the O's and they took advantage of it.

Joseph
06-10-2005, 11:06 PM
And the three game winning streak comes to a halt.

Oh well, I'm there tomorrow and they can start another one.

traderumor
06-11-2005, 12:46 AM
Anybody ready to get Kearnsy back in the lineup?

I am. Kearns has a third outcome.nubber to short?

KronoRed
06-11-2005, 01:08 AM
I loath close games (c)

OldRightHander
06-11-2005, 01:17 AM
I only loath the close ones we lose. So I get home and my wife is snoring away and where am I? Down on the computer. She always wakes up when I come to bed and then she will take an hour or so to get back to sleep. Pretty soon I'm heading in there anyway. I hate to do that to her though, since she has to get up at 6:00. You'd think that after spending a few hours with these folks I could avoid the site until tomorrow. :)

Cedric
06-11-2005, 01:45 AM
I just got online. Can someone please explain to me the Mercker situation? In my opinion it was one of the worst decisions I've seen in awhile, and that's saying something with Miley. Please, anyone explain that one to me and make sense and I'll give you a dollar or some leftover pizza that I ate at pizza hut.

Cedric
06-11-2005, 01:56 AM
Anyone? Someone explain that I missed something that they said on radio or tv? It looks like he was brought in for Newhan alone? Is that the dumbest move you've seen? Was Wagner worn out for some dumb reason? Weathers?

Patrick Bateman
06-11-2005, 02:15 AM
Merker pitched the inning before Wagner (the 8th). He gave up one run on two hits and pitched the entire inning. He shouldn't have given up a run because the second double was a routine line-drive that any left fielder should have no problem catching, yet Dunn missed it and likely cost us the game.

Wagner pitched a scoreless ninth and looked good. If there was average fielding the relievers would have given up no runs.

I don't think there was anything wrong with what Miley called in the inning.

Cedric
06-11-2005, 02:17 AM
Ok, explain how though? I don't really care about what ACTUALLY happened. I care about a manager putting players in bad situations. Why was Mercker brought in for a .200 hitter, Melvin Mora, and Miguel Tejada? When Ryan Wagner or David Weathers were ready to pitch.

OldRightHander
06-11-2005, 08:49 AM
Wish Dunn would have givin way to a right hander.

I appreciate your confidence, but I really don't hit major league pitching that well. Anything over 60 mph and I'm flailing. Dunn was probably a better choice.

TeamBoone
06-11-2005, 12:38 PM
In Dunn's defense (we were sitting right next to the batter's eye and had a good view), that ball was scorched and seemed to kick it up to mach speed at the last second.

RFS62
06-11-2005, 12:41 PM
In Dunn's defense (we were sitting right next to the batter's eye and had a good view), that ball was scorched and seemed to kick it up to moch speed at the last second.


The ball appeared to have sliced a bit too and it was a tough chance, but still his effort on it was embarrassing for a major leaguer.

Patrick Bateman
06-11-2005, 02:00 PM
Ok, explain how though? I don't really care about what ACTUALLY happened. I care about a manager putting players in bad situations. Why was Mercker brought in for a .200 hitter, Melvin Mora, and Miguel Tejada? When Ryan Wagner or David Weathers were ready to pitch.

Historically, Merker has been about the same pitcher against lefties and righties so this was not a situation he would likely fail in. He is not your typical lefty pitcher and he should not be used as one. I don't see how it was such a poor move by Miley.