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Newport Red
06-11-2005, 09:42 PM
Home eighth.

SteelSD
06-11-2005, 09:42 PM
Three down. Top of Ninth coming up.

Aronchis
06-11-2005, 09:43 PM
Gameday went wacko

OnBaseMachine
06-11-2005, 09:43 PM
I guess USAtoday, Gameday, and cbssportsline run under the same system because all three are froze.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2005, 09:44 PM
Thanks. Inning?

Top 9 now

gm
06-11-2005, 09:44 PM
One VERY IMPORTANT factor we haven't head enough about (especially from Marty I'm sure) is that Felipe Lopez has only 3 erros this year in 39 games at SS. That translates to 12 in a full season. That's pretty darn impressive.

IIRC, one of those was a bobbled scoop by Casey. (Not that there's anything wrong with Sean's D, he's saved FeLo a few errors on high throws with whirling tags)

SteelSD
06-11-2005, 09:45 PM
I guess USAtoday, Gameday, and cbssportsline run under the same system because all three are froze.

It's a conspiracy. The um...Web Game Scorer's Union is holding out for something...like free popcorn during the game.

I hate them.

Reds Nd2
06-11-2005, 09:46 PM
I swear that when scores get like this, the people updating gameday just leave to go smoke, take a dump, grab a dog, whatever.

That's still acceptable during the game thread though, right? :laugh:

Red in Chicago
06-11-2005, 09:46 PM
game ending double play

we win

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2005, 09:46 PM
double play ends the game Reds win 10-1!!! Great start by Claussen and a great night by Lopez.

SteelSD
06-11-2005, 09:47 PM
That's still acceptable during the game thread though, right? :laugh:

Well, of course.

On Redszone, bathroom breaks are allowed. ;)

Just don't abuse the privilege!

OnBaseMachine
06-11-2005, 09:47 PM
Did Claussen pitch the 9th?

TRF
06-11-2005, 09:47 PM
sorry to hijack the game thread, but it has gotten eerily quiet here in Amarillo, the skies are green, and there have been multiple tornado reports. If anyone knows how to get a hold of Eddie to see if he and his wife are ok, then please do.

TeamBoone
06-11-2005, 09:48 PM
Anybody know Claussen's final pitch count? I usually get that from Gameday, but as everyone has said... nada!

TeamBoone
06-11-2005, 09:48 PM
Did Claussen pitch the 9th?

Ricky Stone.

TeamBoone
06-11-2005, 09:49 PM
sorry to hijack the game thread, but it has gotten eerily quiet here in Amarillo, the skies are green, and there have been multiple tornado reports. If anyone knows how to get a hold of Eddie to see if he and his wife are ok, then please do.

Where are they?

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2005, 09:49 PM
Anybody know Claussen's final pitch count? I usually get that from Gameday, but as everyone has said... nada!

Not sure the exact number. I heard he was around 97 entering the 8th.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2005, 09:50 PM
Not sure the exact number. I heard he was around 97 entering the 8th.

110. 75 for strikes. 8 innings, 1 run 5 Ks, 1 BB.

Reds Nd2
06-11-2005, 09:50 PM
Just don't abuse the privilege!

But I raised my hand first.

gm
06-11-2005, 09:51 PM
Tonight's win doesn't make up for 1970...but it's been a long time coming

Question: are there any AL teams the Reds haven't faced in IL play. (besides Boston, duh...) I can't remember them ever playing the White Sox. How about the Blue Jays?

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2005, 09:52 PM
It doesn't make up for 1970...but it's been a long, time coming

Question: are there any AL teams the Reds haven't faced in IL play. (besides Boston, duh...) I can't remember them ever playing the White Sox. How about the Blue Jays? They did play the White Sox in one series. I don't think they ever have played the Blue Jays.

TRF
06-11-2005, 09:53 PM
Where are they?

Dunno really. When Eddie moved here, we were never able to get together, and our work schedules conflicted also. the tornadoes have been all around Amarillo, around 10-12 reports. They say none on the ground at the moment, but also that could change at a moment's notice.

I've been in the TV biz for 18 years here in Tornado Alley, and rarely remember a night like this.

TeamBoone
06-11-2005, 09:54 PM
110. 75 for strikes. 8 innings, 1 run 5 Ks, 1 BB.

His ERA's under 4 now, right?

MWM
06-11-2005, 09:54 PM
they played the White Sox in 2003, I believe.

gm
06-11-2005, 09:54 PM
They did play the White Sox in one series. I don't think they ever have played the Blue Jays.

Must've been in the first year of ILP. I recall Cincy played Milwaukee before Bud moved the Brew-crew to the NL

OnBaseMachine
06-11-2005, 09:55 PM
Tonight's win doesn't make up for 1970...but it's been a long, time coming

Question: are there any AL teams the Reds haven't faced in IL play. (besides Boston, duh...) I can't remember them ever playing the White Sox. How about the Blue Jays?

They played the Jays in 2003 and lost 2 of 3 at the GAB.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/schedule.php?y=2003&t=CN5

Falls City Beer
06-11-2005, 09:55 PM
His ERA's under 4 now, right?

Yep. 3.94.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2005, 09:55 PM
His ERA's under 4 now, right? 3.94

Aronchis
06-11-2005, 09:58 PM
At least the Reds aren't Tampa Bay right now burrrrrrrrr

ochre
06-11-2005, 09:59 PM
At least the Reds aren't Tampa Bay right now burrrrrrrrr
but they were a week ago :)

gm
06-11-2005, 10:00 PM
They played the Jays in 2003 and lost 2 of 3 at the GAB.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/schedule.php?y=2003&t=CN5

Where the heck was I? Maybe those games weren't on DirecTV or something

So the Reds are "rivalry-challenged" against the Blue Jays and...how about the Royals? Rangers?

Big Klu
06-11-2005, 10:00 PM
they played the White Sox in 2003, I believe.

They also played the White Sox in 1997 (I think) and 1998. I was at a Reds-White Sox game at Commiskey Park in 1998. The Reds won, and Pokey Reese hit a home run. Robin Ventura's dad led the grounds crew in dragging the field after the fifth inning. White Sox fans hated Albert Belle.

OnBaseMachine
06-11-2005, 10:07 PM
The Reds haven't played the White Sox since 2001. They were swept at Chicago.

http://baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/schedule.php?y=2001&t=CN5

gm--they played the Rangers last year at home, at Texas in 2002.

The Royals are the team(except Boston) they've gone the longest without playing--1999 the Reds swept the Royals at KC.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2005, 10:12 PM
The Reds haven't played the White Sox since 2001. They were swept at Chicago.

http://baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/schedule.php?y=2001&t=CN5

gm--they played the Rangers last year at home, at Texas in 2002.

The Royals are the team(except Boston) they've gone the longest without playing--1999 the Reds swept the Royals at KC.

They hadn't played the Orioles since 1970 until this weekend...

gm
06-11-2005, 10:16 PM
They hadn't played the Orioles since 1970 until this weekend...

That's what prompted my question, although I didn't make it very clear.


The Royals are the team(except Boston) they've gone the longest without playing--1999 the Reds swept the Royals at KC.

So Cincy has played the Blue Jays since '99?

Man, do I feel like Rip van Winkle, all of the sudden :sleep:

OnBaseMachine
06-11-2005, 10:19 PM
So Cincy has played the Blue Jays since '99?

2003. Jays took 2 of 3.

guttle11
06-11-2005, 10:19 PM
So Cincy has played the Blue Jays since '99?

Man do I feel like Rip van Winkle, all of the sudden :sleep:



they played in 2003 i think at GAPB in a homestand that also included the Yankees

KronoRed
06-12-2005, 12:58 AM
I left before the game was over..lucky for us the Reds thought I was still there ;)

Gainesville Red
06-12-2005, 02:11 AM
Gotta love Flippy. Isn't baseball fun?

pedro
06-12-2005, 03:32 AM
Harang, Claussen, Lopez, Dunn, WMP, Freel = pre DanO
Wilson, Milton, Ortiz, Randa, Aurilia = Post DanO

I have little doubt at this point that Bowden, despite his warts, was a better GM than DanO. Although that's not a risky thing for me to say as I was generally an appologist for Bowden throughout his tenure.

Nevertheless, I will say that DanO's trades thusfar haven't been that bad, even though adding Ortiz was stupid, the lose of Mosely really amounts to nothing in the long run as his chances for success in the Majors are limited at best.

DanO's real problem thusfar has been how he has dealt with Arb/FA's and the trades that he chose not to make. Signing Milton, Wilson, Jimenez, Larue, Aurilia, and Randa hasn't worked out well, and not trading Graves and Casey last year when the Reds had the opportunity was likely a big mistake.

If the Reds hadn't signed Milton and Wilson and had traded Casey and Graves last year, they would be in prime position to improve IMO. They'd have some talent, some payflex, and some roster flexibility.

The Reds right now have too many players on their 40 man roster that are marginal MLB players. I expect them to really revamp to 40 man after the season.

pedro
06-12-2005, 03:42 AM
He hasn't been bad. May have been replaceable cheaper with EE. Not sure that it should be the top page of the "GM portfolio" of accomplishments though.

EE quite likely would have out produced Randa, that's for sure. But calling him up so soon also increases the chances that he'll fail, which may hurt his long term developement as well as start his arb clock. Randa is a safe, marketable guy who is positioning himself quite nicely as a semi valuable flip at the the trade deadline. If the Reds actually have the guts to pull that off I'd be happily surprised. I think EE has done well enough at AAA to warrant the job in 2006, so the Reds might as well flip Randa now.

PuffyPig
06-12-2005, 10:38 AM
EE quite likely would have out produced Randa, that's for sure.

I think it's quite likely that EE would not be playing at Randa's level of production, few Rookies do. He's at .372,.485,.857, which is quite abit above average for a 3rdbaseman.

Falls City Beer
06-12-2005, 11:16 AM
I think it's quite likely that EE would not be playing at Randa's level of production, few Rookies do. He's at .372,.485,.857, which is quite abit above average for a 3rdbaseman.

I thought Randa would be a market-level fair deal at 2 million (@ .800 OPS), but the guy's clearly exceeded expectations so far.

westofyou
06-12-2005, 11:28 AM
I thought Randa would be a market-level fair deal at 2 million (@ .800 OPS), but the guy's clearly exceeded expectations so far.
For sure, he has provided a steady RH bat with good bat on ball skills with some pop (this team wasn't getting that from Kearns and Pena was in and out) His fielding has been very steady too. Joe is a ballplayer, he's the least of teh problems. as for EE, I prefer to not get an Arb clock ticking just yet. In the era of free agency the challenge the hitter theory should take a hit to insure maximum return on player investment. (Bill James once advocated teams wringing every last ounce they could from a pitcher in his pre FA years)