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flyer85
06-13-2005, 09:38 PM
way to cover the bag Eric

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Ortiz grounds out to 1st. Great play by Casey.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Ramirez grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

Mutaman
06-13-2005, 09:38 PM
I'm not saying you are wrong--I tend to agree with you. I'm just presenting alternatives.

It's a good alternative. When Eric hit it, I suddenly had total confidence we could beat LaRussa.

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Milton gets a ground ball :eek:

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:39 PM
Millar lines a double to the left field corner.

Mutaman
06-13-2005, 09:40 PM
How about Griffey?

And the fact that you are a Reds fan?

And the fact that we are as good as scoring team as there is in the National League.

And the fact you are a Reds fan.

And that fact that we probably have the (potentially) top power hitter in baseball, be it Dunn or Pena.

And the fact you are a Reds fan.

And the fact that some players can (and will) improve.

I believe that many posters here have panned Harang, Lopez, Pena, Claussen a large amount of time. Now they are our salvation. Funny.

Those of us who were born Red's fans (and you know who you are) don't have any choice. Heck, some of us still defend Pete.

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 09:40 PM
any chance the Sox don't score this inning?

Yes..woohoo! ;)

OnBaseMachine
06-13-2005, 09:40 PM
Milton has allowed 5 XBH this game. No homeruns...yet.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:40 PM
Varitek grounds out to 3rd. 5-2 Sox after 5.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 09:41 PM
shocking ... a double but no runs. He can thank Sean for that.

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 09:41 PM
Good inning.

Need offense.

PuffyPig
06-13-2005, 09:42 PM
Milton gets a ground ball :eek:

Actually, he's had almost as many GB's as FB's tonight. Including ground ball hits, he's had 10 GB's.

Kc61
06-13-2005, 09:43 PM
Wasn't Milton supposed to have good velocity? He doesn't ever put anyone away with a fastball. I would doubt he throws more than high 80s, possibly 90. Does anyone know?

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 09:43 PM
Actually, he's had almost as many GB's as FB's tonight. Including ground ball hits, he's had 10 GB's.

That's a start...

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:43 PM
Freel grounds out to short. 1 out.

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 09:44 PM
Wasn't Milton supposed to have good velocity? He doesn't ever put anyone away with a fastball. I would doubt he throws more than high 80s, possibly 90. Does anyone know?


He hit low 90's tonight....not sure how often, but I know he did

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 09:44 PM
I don't trust that radar gun.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:44 PM
Randa grounds out to short. 2 outs.

Eric_Davis
06-13-2005, 09:44 PM
Reasons to follow the Reds right now: FeLo, Dunn, Harang, Claussen, and...and...

WilyMo, Freel, Junior....you want more?

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 09:45 PM
WilyMo, Freel, Junior....you want more?

No. That about sums it up.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:45 PM
Casey flies out to left. 5-2 Sox mid 6th.

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 09:46 PM
I don't trust that radar gun.

That's all I have :)

OnBaseMachine
06-13-2005, 09:46 PM
Great inning, guys. Made him throw 5 pitches that inning. :thumbup:

CTA513
06-13-2005, 09:46 PM
lol they sure made Clement pitch that inning.

GAC
06-13-2005, 09:47 PM
Chat is open!

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 09:47 PM
Great inning, guys. Made him throw 5 pitches that inning. :thumbup:
We hit to contact ;)

RosieRed
06-13-2005, 09:47 PM
GAC said he's buying beers for the next 5 people who come into chat! :beerme:

Aronchis
06-13-2005, 09:47 PM
Freel looks to be in a bit of a slump right now.

Eric_Davis
06-13-2005, 09:48 PM
He can't be sent to the minors without his consent.

So, what options does the team have? The DL?

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 09:49 PM
Has Milton thrown a pitch below the belt since the 2nd inning?

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 09:49 PM
So, what options does the team have? The DL?

We can pray he gets better.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:50 PM
Mueller strikes out swinging. 1 out.

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 09:50 PM
We can pray he gets better.

Or they could do what's right by the fans and release him.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 09:50 PM
So, what options does the team have? The DL?Death by bunga-bunga

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 09:51 PM
Or they could do what's right by the fans and release him.
This team eat 18+mill in payroll? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:51 PM
Payton walks.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 09:52 PM
You mean to tell me that the Reds don't have anybody loose?

Unbelievable.

Eric_Davis
06-13-2005, 09:52 PM
Not even close. Eric's hit was big, really big, and I remember it and him with great affection. And I loved the 90 team. But we're talking game 7 not game 1. The Reds are down 3-0 in the 6th inning, we haven't won a world championship in over 35 years, we lost in ''61, '70, and '72. We were one lousy pitch away from winning the night before and we blew it, and Lee was absolutely cruising. It really looked like the handwritting was on the wall, we were going to lose again to a team that just wasn't in our class. And then Tony changed all that with one swing. Not even close, and I bet you won't find anyone who witnessed both hits who would disagree with me.

I witnessed both hits. I disagree. Though your point makes more sense.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:53 PM
Bellhorn flies out to center. For a second I thought Wily Mo was going to run into him again.

Reds Nd2
06-13-2005, 09:53 PM
Wily Mo needs to learn that the CF is in charge out there.

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 09:54 PM
Wily Mo is going to kill Ryan Freel :help:

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:55 PM
Damon lines a hit to right. 1st and 2nd with 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 09:58 PM
Renteria walks...ORTIZ is up

flyer85
06-13-2005, 09:58 PM
should have got him before Renteria

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 09:58 PM
Renteria walks. Bases loaded for Ortiz. I can't believe Milton is still in the game.

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 09:58 PM
T-minus to liftoff....

Aronchis
06-13-2005, 09:59 PM
Miley obviously hoping to get canned

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 09:59 PM
Get him outta there

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
G A M E O V E R.

Too late Dave

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Ortiz lines a single to center. 7-2. I can't tell who I am more disgusted with Miley or Milton.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Absolutely, just plain stupid on the part of Dave Miley to leave Milton in long enough for this to happen in this inning.

MWM
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Eric Milton = Chan Ho Park

Raisor
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Um, well, he didn't give up a homer, so he's got that going for him...which is nice.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
What on earth was he trying to prove?

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Eric Milton = Chan Ho Park

Worse.

Aronchis
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Miley obviously hoping to get canned

You gotta be kidding me Dave

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Milton's ERA now up to 7.73.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:01 PM
I am not sure Dave ever makes a pitching change too soon but he sure makes a bunch of them too late

MWM
06-13-2005, 10:02 PM
At least Eric battled tonight.

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:02 PM
Lets go Matt :clap:

WVRedsFan
06-13-2005, 10:02 PM
What on earth was he trying to prove?

That Milton's a gamer. Or something like that.

LvJ
06-13-2005, 10:02 PM
7 ER is Milton's trademark. Miley had to let him get there.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:02 PM
What on earth was he trying to prove?giving him a chance to give up a homer? He hadn't done that yet tonight.

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 10:02 PM
At least Eric battled tonight.

Cause that's all that matters.

membengal
06-13-2005, 10:03 PM
Milton's ERA now up to 7.73.

Slow-pitch softball pitcher, that's what we have hired.

He starts, and you can figure seven runs for the other team. I don't think I have ever seen anything quite like it.

Weird how they bring in Belisle and you cannot help but marvel at what some decent stuff looks like.

Eric_Davis
06-13-2005, 10:03 PM
Hadn't walked anyone all day, then walks two of four batters. Think Miley waited too long to pull Milton.

I'd pull my kid from the team if Miley was his or her little league manager.

Kc61
06-13-2005, 10:03 PM
I guess Gullett and Hume will have to watch some more tape on Milton's mechanics.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:04 PM
Ramirez hits a 3 run homer as Pena slams against the wall. 10-2.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:04 PM
that had to hurt. AK would have probably caught that one.

LvJ
06-13-2005, 10:04 PM
:runaway:

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:04 PM
Touchdown NE

PuffyPig
06-13-2005, 10:05 PM
Or they could do what's right by the fans and release him.

Releasing a pitcher who's had (at least) average major league success in the first year of a 3 year $25M contract would undoubtedly be the most stupid thing DanO has ever done. Yes, even more stupid than signing him.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:05 PM
WMP made that a HR. It wasn't going out

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 10:05 PM
that had to hurt. AK would have probably caught that one.

AS that old Tootsie Roll commercial said: "The world will never know."

knuckler
06-13-2005, 10:05 PM
Why did Miley leave Milton in so long?
A. Secret Red Sox fan
B. Didn't seem right taking him out before giving up his customary seven runs
C. Pitcher's spot due up next. Wait a minute, why isn't the pitcher hitting? They do WHAT in this league?
D. Curious to see what it'll take to get Milton released
E. Got another job already, trying to get fired.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Looked like the ball was in Pena's glove for a second and when he hit the wall the ball knocked over the wall.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Sending out AK not looking too bright at the moment

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Millar singles and Varitek doubles. Will this ever end.

Reds Nd2
06-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Pena should be glad he didn't get slugged by a fan down there. ;)

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Why did Miley leave Milton in so long?
A. Secret Red Sox fan
B. Didn't seem right taking him out before giving up his customary seven runs
C. Pitcher's spot due up next. Wait a minute, why isn't the pitcher hitting? They do WHAT in this league?
D. Curious to see what it'll take to get Milton released
E. Got another job already, trying to get fired.C

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Glad the Reds built up all that momentum on the homestand.

Aronchis
06-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Belisle looks rusty, little surprise, might as well throw out a Milton start

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:07 PM
This might not have happened if Milton was replaced a long time ago.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:07 PM
Love that pen. Especially a guy that pitches once a week

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:07 PM
Milton's ERA now 7.97.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:08 PM
This might not have happened if Milton was replaced a long time ago.There are a few very bad pitchers in the pen as well

Kc61
06-13-2005, 10:08 PM
Somebody's got to teach WMP to play the outfield.

PuffyPig
06-13-2005, 10:09 PM
Weird how they bring in Belisle and you cannot help but marvel at what some decent stuff looks like.

What game are you watching? It must be a re-run.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:09 PM
Milton's ERA now 7.97.He can go for for 8+ on Saturday.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:09 PM
Good Lord. This is just thoroughly disgusting.

And I blame Dave!

Maybe they can't afford to release Milton, but they could skip him a time or two... or relegate him to the pen for a while.

Just awful awful awful.

LvJ
06-13-2005, 10:09 PM
WMP made that a HR. It wasn't going out I disagree.

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:10 PM
Things could be worse.

Plague comes to mind

Happy 30,000 posts

Yahoo

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:11 PM
I disagree.
It bounced off his glove

LvJ
06-13-2005, 10:11 PM
It bounced off his glove Yeah, but it was going out anyways.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:11 PM
It must be a re-run.didn't he play on Good Times?

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 10:15 PM
That Dan O'Brien can point a mean finger.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:15 PM
Jr doesn't do well as a DH... he's the first to admit it, which is why he doesn't enjoy doing it.

MWM
06-13-2005, 10:16 PM
Bobby Cox yanked Tim Hudson today in the third inning after giving up 4 runs. Just sayin'.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:17 PM
Bobby Cox yanked Tim Hudson today in the third inning after giving up 4 runs. Just sayin'. The difference between a real manager and what we are stuck with.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:17 PM
the extra fielder almost caught that one.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:18 PM
;) What the heck is Adam thinking getting a base hit!

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:18 PM
Bobby Cox yanked Tim Hudson today in the third inning after giving up 4 runs. Just sayin'.it was obvious Hudson didn't have it this time out. That is every time out for Milton.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:19 PM
Lopez strikes out looking. 10-2 Sox mid 7th.

Raisor
06-13-2005, 10:20 PM
didn't he play on Good Times?


no!

WHAT'S HAPPENIN'!!!!

Aronchis
06-13-2005, 10:20 PM
One good thing that may come from this game is that Milton will yank himself from the rotation. Even pitchers have their limits. I don't think he can take the multi-times he has been pounded to much longer.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:20 PM
Things could be worse.

Plague comes to mind

Happy 30,000 posts

YahooI can see it ... KronoRed, this is your life.

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 10:21 PM
One good thing that may come from this game is that Milton will yank himself from the rotation. Even pitchers have their limits. I don't think he can take the multi-times he has been pounded to much longer.

It would rule if he retired, surrendering what he's owed in his contract.

Reds Nd2
06-13-2005, 10:21 PM
"It's raining beer." I love that commercial. :beerme:

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:21 PM
no!

WHAT'S HAPPENIN'!!!!I shall bang my head on the floor until forgiven

Raisor
06-13-2005, 10:22 PM
I shall bang my head on the floor until forgiven



I'll let you know when you can stop.

not yet....

Reds Nd2
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
Things could be worse.

Plague comes to mind

Happy 30,000 posts

Yahoo

Your post count makes me feel small. :laugh:

traderumor
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
When the Reds finally released Jimmy Haynes, Miley made the snide remark about not being able to give away a game every fifth day, or something to that effect. Funny how he found $25 M reasons that someone who has pitched just as bad as Haynes keeps getting handed the ball, leaving the team little chance to win every fifth day. A manager who manages by the payroll has no business managing in the major leagues.

SteelSD
06-13-2005, 10:25 PM
I've been booing Eric Milton since the fourth inning. Can I stop yet?

Marc D
06-13-2005, 10:25 PM
As asinine as the Reds braintrust is, I have to believe this one might just get the ball rolling toward doing something different. I don't know what can really be done but Gullet watching video sure isn't fixing anything.

Milton leads the league in Runs, Earned Runs, Hr's, Hits and Total Bases. He has nearly an 8.00 ERA after tonights 5 2/3 9ER performance. It just has to stop, even Dan O and Miley can't let this continue. He needs to be skipped at the very least.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:25 PM
I'll let you know when you can stop.

not yet....ugh.

Raisor
06-13-2005, 10:25 PM
I've been booing Eric Milton since the fourth inning. Can I stop yet?


not yet...

BoydsOfSummer
06-13-2005, 10:25 PM
This team needs to sign Jenny Finch. She'd be at least as effective as Milton,plus...well,do I have to outline the plusses?

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:26 PM
I've been booing Eric Milton since the fourth inning. Can I stop yet?

No, you must boo even longer for asking

SteelSD
06-13-2005, 10:26 PM
not yet...

Ok.

<BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Eric Milton...BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...>

Reds Nd2
06-13-2005, 10:26 PM
I've been booing Eric Milton since the fourth inning. Can I stop yet?

Why the late start?

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:27 PM
I've been booing Eric Milton since the fourth inning. Can I stop yet? You can take a break until Saturday.

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 10:27 PM
Somebody's got to teach WMP to play the outfield.

I'm hoping that will come with time...

SteelSD
06-13-2005, 10:27 PM
This team needs to sign Jenny Finch. She'd be at least as effective as Milton,plus...well,do I have to outline the plusses?

LOL! That's hilarious!

I just told my wife that Milton's ERA is nearly 8.00.

She responded by asking if he's been pitching underhand all season.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:27 PM
the mad hacker flies out to left

SteelSD
06-13-2005, 10:28 PM
Why the late start?

I'm an optimist?

:D

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 10:28 PM
When the Reds finally released Jimmy Haynes, Miley made the snide remark about not being able to give away a game every fifth day, or something to that effect. Funny how he found $25 M reasons that someone who has pitched just as bad as Haynes keeps getting handed the ball, leaving the team little chance to win every fifth day. A manager who manages by the payroll has no business managing in the major leagues.

Rally killer. Win 5 out of 6 and then :bang: :bang: :bang:

Have to start over now...

lollipopcurve
06-13-2005, 10:28 PM
who takes Milton's spot -- Belisle or Keisler?

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:28 PM
Valentin homers 10-3.

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:28 PM
Such a strange outfield they have

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:29 PM
who takes Milton's spot -- Belisle or Keisler?
Keisler

Reds Nd2
06-13-2005, 10:29 PM
I'm an optimist?

:D

Oh. I thought maybe you got home late or something. :laugh:

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:29 PM
I would pay money for a front row seat to watch Jennie Finch ... er, pitch.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:30 PM
Who takes Milton's spotanyone, anyone ... Bueller

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 10:30 PM
As asinine as the Reds braintrust is, I have to believe this one might just get the ball rolling toward doing something different. I don't know what can really be done but Gullet watching video sure isn't fixing anything.

Milton leads the league in Runs, Earned Runs, Hr's, Hits and Total Bases. He has nearly an 8.00 ERA after tonights 5 2/3 9ER performance. It just has to stop, even Dan O and Miley can't let this continue. He needs to be skipped at the very least.

Had Miley pulled him when he should have...Milton would have had a decent outing

...and it could only be a 2 run game right now...

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 10:31 PM
anyone, anyone ... Bueller

Kiesler?

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:32 PM
Can Kearns pitch?

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:33 PM
Can Kearns pitch?maybe that's why he went to AAA. Some teams wanted to draft him as a pitcher.

Marc D
06-13-2005, 10:33 PM
Had Miley pulled him when he should have...Milton would have had a decent outing

...and it could only be a 2 run game right now...

Even if he pulls him before the 6th its a 5 inning 5 ER night. Just because we were only down 3 at that point doesn't mean he pitched well.

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 10:35 PM
Even if he pulls him before the 6th its a 5 inning 5 ER night. Just because we were only down 3 at that point doesn't mean he pitched well.

For Milton...should have said that....decent for Milton... :D

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:36 PM
Ok, I left the room for three minutes... why is Cruz playing first?

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:36 PM
Cruz in..that's the white flag

Aronchis
06-13-2005, 10:38 PM
Cruz in..that's the white flag

The flag was already raised when Milton came onto the mound sadly enough.

traderumor
06-13-2005, 10:40 PM
Ok, I left the room for three minutes... why is Cruz playing first?Because the Reds are getting ready to announce they just traded Casey to the Sox. Theo was so impressed with the snag at first on Ortiz' grounder that he gave in to all DanOs demands--an autographed ball from the 2004 World Champs, a signed picture of Carlton Fisk waving the ball fair, and a player to be named later.

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:40 PM
Ok, I left the room for three minutes... why is Cruz playing first? As far as I know there is nothing wrong with Casey it is just the game is over so they are giving Cruz a chance to play a few innings.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:40 PM
I wonder why it's praise-worthy that Manny has learned to be patient and dropped his BA 30 points, but it's not praise-worthy for Dunn to be patient at the plate and thus have a lower batting average.... huh?


Did George just say Kearns!

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:41 PM
I know he did; he called WMP Kearns. Too funny!

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:41 PM
Did George just say Kearns!

Well he did call Ryan Freel 'Adam' earlier ;)

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:43 PM
OK, I have another pet peeve. That was a really nice play by Lopez... why didn't they say so? They don't hesitate to say so when it's the other team!

Sorry guys, this game has made me really really grumpy.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:44 PM
Well he did call Ryan Freel 'Adam' earlier ;)

Yes, and he looks so much like him!

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:45 PM
Did everybody but Krono and me leave?

Joseph
06-13-2005, 10:46 PM
I left

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 10:47 PM
I honestly feel sick at heart for this offense. I really do, I'm not kidding. It's a fun crew to root for.

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:47 PM
Did everybody but Krono and me leave?

We're diehards

Or insane ;)

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:47 PM
Kelly pinch hitting for Griffey.

Reds Nd2
06-13-2005, 10:47 PM
Nah. I'm just sitting here contemplating the meaning of life and the complexities of spending so much money to improve the pitching and actually making it worse in the process.

It makes my head hurt.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:50 PM
Nah. I'm just sitting here contemplating the meaning of life and the complexities of spending so much money to improve the pitching and actually making it worse in the process.

It makes my head hurt.

Man, you got that right. :bang:

BoydsOfSummer
06-13-2005, 10:50 PM
It's obvious that Grande is slipping as a PBP guy,what with all the recent name mixups. I think it only fair they force him out like they did Nuxie. <crossing fingers>

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:51 PM
Dunn gets hit by a pitch.

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 10:51 PM
Game over

flyer85
06-13-2005, 10:52 PM
a real player would have gotten out of the way

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:53 PM
Lopez grounds out. Game over. Reds lose 10-3.

MWM
06-13-2005, 10:53 PM
Over his last 140 ABs, Griffey has an OPS of about .960.

OnBaseMachine
06-13-2005, 10:54 PM
a real player would have gotten out of the way

A true team player would have stepped back and slapped a single through the left side.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 10:54 PM
I hope to high heaven that Miley doesn't DH Griffey again tomorrow night.

BoydsOfSummer
06-13-2005, 10:56 PM
I hope he DH's Junior,plays Freel at 2nd and plays Kelly in CF personally.

Falls City Beer
06-13-2005, 10:56 PM
We didn't lose ground to the Cards. *fart*

Reds Fanatic
06-13-2005, 10:56 PM
I hope to high heaven that Miley doesn't DH Griffey again tomorrow night. I hope not too. Lucky we don't have the DH in the NL. It would be just another way for Miley to mess up the lineup every night.

KronoRed
06-13-2005, 11:01 PM
We didn't lose ground to the Cards. *fart*

Excuse you! :help:

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 11:01 PM
I hope he DH's Junior,plays Freel at 2nd and plays Kelly in CF personally.

Griffey doesn't do well at DH; he never has.

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 11:04 PM
Looking forward to seeing Milton again this weekend!! :help:

red-in-la
06-13-2005, 11:04 PM
I did not read the whole game thread....so maybe this was discussed.....but can somebody tell me why in high heaven does Miley let Milton face David Ortiz with the bases loaded and two outs when it is still a game?

I mean, why are Mercker and Kiesler on the team if they aren't used right there?

Just wondered if that was discussed and if there was a good reason.

OnBaseMachine
06-13-2005, 11:04 PM
We didn't lose ground to the Cards. *fart*

http://www.oursworld.net/ingilizce-ders/karikatur/komik-karikatur/fish-fart.JPG

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 11:06 PM
I did not read the whole game thread....so maybe this was discussed.....but can somebody tell me why in high heaven does Miley let Milton face David Ortiz with the bases loaded and two outs when it is still a game?

I mean, why are Mercker and Kiesler on the team if they aren't used right there?

Just wondered if that was discussed and if there was a good reason.

It came up, but no logical explanation was discovered...

Raisor
06-13-2005, 11:06 PM
I did not read the whole game thread....so maybe this was discussed.....but can somebody tell me why in high heaven does Miley let Milton face David Ortiz with the bases loaded and two outs when it is still a game?

I mean, why are Mercker and Kiesler on the team if they aren't used right there?

Just wondered if that was discussed and if there was a good reason.


It's because Milton knows how to win.

At least that's what people told me this offseaon...

Matt700wlw
06-13-2005, 11:07 PM
It's because Milton knows how to win.

At least that's what people told me this offseaon...

That's what the GM told everybody...

oneupper
06-13-2005, 11:08 PM
I did not read the whole game thread....so maybe this was discussed.....but can somebody tell me why in high heaven does Miley let Milton face David Ortiz with the bases loaded and two outs when it is still a game?

I mean, why are Mercker and Kiesler on the team if they aren't used right there?

Just wondered if that was discussed and if there was a good reason.

Around Pg 16.. Redszoners were wondering why

1.. There was no one getting loose in the BP (before the bases were loaded)
2. Milton was left to pitch to Ortiz.

They were, of course, left wondering.

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 11:09 PM
I did not read the whole game thread....so maybe this was discussed.....but can somebody tell me why in high heaven does Miley let Milton face David Ortiz with the bases loaded and two outs when it is still a game?

I mean, why are Mercker and Kiesler on the team if they aren't used right there?

Just wondered if that was discussed and if there was a good reason.

The discussion in the game thread was pretty much like, "What the heck is he doing leaving Milton in so long and not having anyone warm in the pen". (I used nice words)

TeamBoone
06-13-2005, 11:09 PM
Oh, and no one had the answer... we still don't.

oneupper
06-13-2005, 11:13 PM
Well, in Miley's little world (and head)...

Keisler pitched yesterday. Can't dream of having him pitch twice without someone else getting a chance.

Mercker is a "set up" man...so he can't be used before the 7th (at earliest).

That leaves Milton as the only lefty to pitch to Ortiz...unless he brings in a righty...which he can't do because if he brings in a righty and Ortiz gets a hit...everyone will think he is stupid and doesn't play the matchups right...

So, basically in the world of CYA...Miley had no choice.

red-in-la
06-13-2005, 11:14 PM
Well, thanks for the feedback. And for saving my poor eyes from reading the thread to find it. This guy Miley is bad.....I just do NOT understand this mess.

Chalk another one up to the Miley is a loser column.

Super_Barry11
06-13-2005, 11:16 PM
So it looks like I picked a good night to catch up with some friends and go out to eat at Mongolian BBQ!! :eek: Sheesh, what a lovely final score. :(

ochre
06-13-2005, 11:19 PM
Around Pg 16.. Redszoners were wondering why

1.. There was no one getting loose in the BP (before the bases were loaded)
2. Milton was left to pitch to Ortiz.

They were, of course, left wondering.
The obvious answer to both questions is that Milton was cruising and then the wheels came off. He's a battler, so we were hoping he could "moxy" his way through it. We have no idea what the solution is.

flyer85
06-13-2005, 11:23 PM
http://www.oursworld.net/ingilizce-ders/karikatur/komik-karikatur/fish-fart.JPGthat is classic

TeamBoone
06-14-2005, 12:26 AM
06/13/2005 Reds roughed up in return to Fenway
Milton gives up nine runs in 5 2/3 innings
By Anthony Castrovince / MLB.com

BOSTON -- We'll start with the good news, because Eric Milton is probably in need of something positive right about now.
Milton didn't allow any home runs on Monday night. That's the good news.

The bad news for Milton and the Reds is that the left-hander gave up plenty of other hits in the Reds' 10-3 loss to the Red Sox at Fenway Park.

Milton (3-8, 7.97 ERA) was beat up for nine runs on 11 hits over the course of 5 2/3 innings, giving his team little chance of coming up with a victory against right-hander Matt Clement (7-1, 3.78). The Red Sox went up, 2-0, early on Edgar Renteria's two-run double in the third, and a three-run fourth inning gave them a 5-0 edge.

By the time the Reds put two across with Felipe Lopez's RBI triple and ensuing run scored on Rich Aurilia's sacrifice fly, the Red Sox were in a groove against Milton.

That groove led to a sixth inning in which Milton gave up a two-run single to David Ortiz and left two runners on for reliever Matt Belisle. Manny Ramirez then stepped up and hit a three-run homer to right that bounced out of Wily Mo Pena's glove and into the stands, sealing the Reds' fate in their first game at Fenway since the '75 World Series.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20050613&content_id=1088548&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin