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RFS62
06-16-2005, 01:36 PM
After watching a couple of practice rounds, I'm picking Retief Goosen to win the Open this week at Pinehurst.

He may be the best player in the world not named Tiger.

And I will be surprised if anyone is under par when the week is over. Payne Stewart won the last one here in '99 with one under par.

Chip R
06-16-2005, 01:39 PM
I'll take the Big Ern at 3 under.

MWM
06-16-2005, 01:39 PM
I'm going with Phil Mickelson. He came so close in '99 and he likes this course.

If I had another pick I'd go with David Toms. He's such a solid player who makes very few mistakes.

RFS62
06-16-2005, 01:47 PM
Tiger is definitely locked and loaded too.

He was hitting drivers 345 - 350 on the range, flying them 325 when I was watching him Tuesday.

The course is in perfect shape. The brown spots you see on TV are no problem, they play no differently than the rest of the course. It's pretty tricky to get the course to peak at the right time, especially with the weather we've had in the sandhills this year.

The greens on 5 and 13 will be very interesting to watch all week. Tuesday, they were mowing, rhen rolling, then mowing again and a USGA official came out and stopped them on 13. It's already rolling 11.5 on the stimpmeter. That's about like putting on the hood of your car and stopping it at the hood ornament.

You guys come on down, we're having a hell of a party here this week.

Red Leader
06-16-2005, 01:50 PM
I'll take Tiger at -4 to win the tournament.

Update on play on Thursday.

Olin Browne and Rocco Mediate are in the clubhouse at -3.

Retief Goosen is -2 through 17.

Ernie Els is +1 through the first round

Phil Mickelson should be teeing off for his first round right about now.

Tiger is E through 17.

Red Leader
06-16-2005, 01:51 PM
Hope you're enjoying the tournament thus far, RFS. Wish I was there.

creek14
06-16-2005, 01:52 PM
Smart money is proabaly on Phil M. I'm going with Jim Furyk

Red Leader
06-16-2005, 01:53 PM
Furyk tees off around 1:30pm today.

Red Leader
06-16-2005, 01:55 PM
Tiger and David Toms both just finished at E.

zombie-a-go-go
06-16-2005, 01:58 PM
I predict that golf will be played on days both sunny and cloudy. There may be rain, but I'm not confident enough in that to lay any money down on it.

Retief spelled backward is Feiter, btw.

kheidg-
06-16-2005, 01:59 PM
My pick Davis Love III

I expect Tiger, Chris DiMarco, Fred Couples, Jeff Maggert, Bob Tway, David Toms, and John Daly to also all perfom well. But whoever knows with Daly, he seems to lose his confidence too fast.

Red Leader
06-16-2005, 02:00 PM
Retief Goosen finished at -2.

Davis Love III tees off at around 1:20.

MWM
06-16-2005, 02:00 PM
I predict that next Wednesday morning at 8:12 AM, I will be teeing off at the TPC at Sawgrass. :)

RFS62
06-16-2005, 02:10 PM
I predict that next Wednesday morning at 8:12 AM, I will be teeing off at the TPC at Sawgrass. :)


You'll love it. The Stadium Course is quite a challenge.

Number 17 may be the most recognizable and photographed hole in the world, right up there with Amen Corner at Augusta.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 02:58 PM
Latest update.

Olin Browne and Rocco Mediate are finished and tied for the lead at -3.
Retief Goosen and Lee Westwood are also done and are tied at -2.
K.J. Choi and Steve Jones are done for the day and tied at -1.

Roy Tucker
06-16-2005, 03:04 PM
After watching a couple of practice rounds, I'm picking Retief Goosen to win the Open this week at Pinehurst.
I think you're on to something RFS... an anagram for Retief Goosen is Foreseen got I.

RFS62
06-16-2005, 03:05 PM
I think you're on to something RFS... an anagram for Retief Goosen is Foreseen got I.


That sounds like what Yoda would predict.

rdiersin
06-16-2005, 03:14 PM
Part of me wants to say Vijay, but my brain says no. I don't know, I'll go with Phil at Pinehurst.

Chip R
06-16-2005, 04:33 PM
I see Jerry Smith from Oskaloosa, IA has qualified. His grandfather was/is a friend of my grandfather's. They run the local public course there which I've played many times. Jerry actually flied my grandfather out to Boston when he qualified for the Open when it was played at The Country Club.

jmcclain19
06-16-2005, 04:35 PM
I'm picking Rory Sabbatini to hit at least one green from 100+ yards out while players are still on it.

Red Leader
06-16-2005, 04:37 PM
I'm picking Rory Sabbatini to hit at least one green from 100+ yards out while players are still on it.

:laugh: :laugh:

Good call.

RFS62
06-16-2005, 04:43 PM
He's the most disliked man on tour by the other players, even before his recent wack out.

jmcclain19
06-16-2005, 04:46 PM
He's the most disliked man on tour by the other players, even before his recent wack out.
When I went to the Phoenix Open, watching Crane golf is akin to watching paint dry. And that's putting it nicely. So I understand Rory's freak out.

Mike Weir is another guy I watched who just took forever to get ready. And I like Weir.

Ravenlord
06-16-2005, 05:35 PM
i think Ernie Els or Adam Scott

kheidg-
06-16-2005, 06:00 PM
My pick Davis Love III is doing great at +4.

Red Leader
06-16-2005, 06:03 PM
My pick Davis Love III is doing great at +4.

I forgot to mention that I hate Davis Love. Weasel. :laugh:

Sorry for that mini-rant, just wanted to state that.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 06:05 PM
I'll go with Tiger

That's a safe bet..right? ;)

RANDY IN INDY
06-16-2005, 06:09 PM
Tiger is definitely locked and loaded too.

He was hitting drivers 345 - 350 on the range, flying them 325 when I was watching him Tuesday.

The course is in perfect shape. The brown spots you see on TV are no problem, they play no differently than the rest of the course. It's pretty tricky to get the course to peak at the right time, especially with the weather we've had in the sandhills this year.

The greens on 5 and 13 will be very interesting to watch all week. Tuesday, they were mowing, rhen rolling, then mowing again and a USGA official came out and stopped them on 13. It's already rolling 11.5 on the stimpmeter. That's about like putting on the hood of your car and stopping it at the hood ornament.

Good post, RFS62. I was there, yesterday, and the course was in wonderful shape for the open. Very tough, but very fair, as well. Sorry we couldn't get together.

By the way, MWM, you will love the stadium course at the TPC. Played it two years ago. Word to the wise. Stay in the fairway. The bermuda rough is brutal.

RFS62
06-16-2005, 09:15 PM
Randy, I'm sorry I wasn't able to go yesterday too. I would have loved to meet you and your son. I had to drive up to Virginia and back for work, and I spent all day today writing up reports and watching on TV. I went to the first two practice rounds, and I'm going this weekend.

My company was there yesterday and today, though, and they loved it too.

Now I'm off for the week, and playing tomorrow in the "Coveted Dorfman Cup".

creek14
06-16-2005, 09:26 PM
T1 Olin Browne -3 F -3 67
T1 Rocco Mediate -3 F -3 67
T3 Retief Goosen -2 F -2 68
T3 Lee Westwood -2 F -2 68
T3 Brandt Jobe -2 F -2 68
T6 Steve Jones -1 F -1 69
T6 Luke Donald -1 F -1 69
T6 K.J. Choi -1 F -1 69
T6 Phil Mickelson -1 F -1 69
T10 David Toms E F E 70
T10 Tiger Woods E F E 70
T10 Tommy Armour III E F E 70
T10 Adam Scott E F E 70
T10 Vijay Singh E F E 70
T10 Toru Taniguchi E F E 70
T10 Bob Estes E F E 70
T17 Ernie Els +1 F +1 71
T17 Shigeki Maruyama +1 F +1 71
T17 John Cook +1 F +1 71
T17 Bob Tway +1 F +1 71
T17 Chris DiMarco +1 F +1 71
T17 Peter Lonard +1 F +1 71
T17 Mark Hensby +1 F +1 71
T17 Jason Gore +1 F +1 71
T17 Michael Campbell +1 F +1 71
T17 Stephen Ames +1 F +1 71
T17 Angel Cabrera +1 F +1 71
T17 Thomas Bjorn +1 F +1 71
T17 Fred Couples +1 F +1 71
T17 Jim Furyk +1 F +1 71

RFS62
06-16-2005, 10:47 PM
Great first day.

Browne, Westwood, and Mediate will be over par at the end of the day tomorrow, I predict.

The big boys just have to stay around even par until Sunday. This tournament starts on the back nine on Sunday, but you can play yourself out of it at any time.

MWM
06-16-2005, 10:50 PM
What's your best score on #2, RFS?

RFS62
06-17-2005, 12:25 AM
81 from the tips.

kheidg-
06-17-2005, 02:31 AM
I forgot to mention that I hate Davis Love. Weasel. :laugh:

Sorry for that mini-rant, just wanted to state that.

Davis Love III is the man.

kyred14
06-17-2005, 02:40 AM
agassi? sampras? ;)

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 10:41 AM
Mickelson struggling early on Day 2. He's +5 through his first 8 holes today, taking him to +4 for the tournament.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 10:50 AM
Bob Estes is -3 through the first 4 holes and after shooting E yesterday, he has joined the leaders at -3 overall in the tournament.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 10:51 AM
Vijay is -1 today through 7 holes, and -1 overall, now.

RFS62
06-17-2005, 10:51 AM
Get ready to see a lot of struggling. The pretenders are going to separate from the contenders.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 10:55 AM
Are you watching today, '62? What's going on with Mickelson? Is he being over-aggressive, or has he just gotten himself into a lot of trouble early with missed fairways, etc?

Reds Fanatic
06-17-2005, 11:01 AM
Mickelson is now +6 through 9 holes. He has bogied 6 of the 9 holes.

RFS62
06-17-2005, 11:13 AM
They just showed the highlights of Lefty's adventures. He bogied 6 of 8 holes going out. He's leaving himself the dreaded 5-10 footers for par, and just lipping out or skirting the cup.

He's probably done unless he gets a few strokes back on his back nine. He looks stunned.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 11:24 AM
Anyone know what time Tiger tees off today? I'm assuming he has a late afternoon tee time, since he tee'd off early yesterday.

Reds Fanatic
06-17-2005, 11:24 AM
Anyone know what time Tiger tees off today? I'm assuming he has a late afternoon tee time, since he tee'd off early yesterday. 12:59

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 11:25 AM
Found it, nevermind.

Tiger tees off at 12:59.

He's playing with Luke Donald and Chris Dimarco.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 11:26 AM
Thanks, Reds Fanatic.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 12:52 PM
Vijay and Furyk (nice pick, creek) are making a charge.

Vijay is -2 on the day through 13, and -2 overall.

Furyk is also -2 on the day through 13, and -1 overall.


Mickelson is +6 on the day, +5 overall, through 16.

RFS62
06-17-2005, 01:15 PM
Lefty is toast. Massive choke.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 01:19 PM
The back 9 appears to really be killing players.

Vijay dropped two strokes and is now E through 16

Mickelson is +7 today now, and +6 for the tournament through 17

RFS62
06-17-2005, 01:22 PM
Mickelson just posted a 77.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 01:24 PM
Mickelson just posted a 77.

Sorry, '62. He beat you by 4 strokes. :p:

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 01:35 PM
Michael Campbell is the leader in the clubhouse at Even Par, after shooting a one under 69 today.

Furyk is still -2 on the day, and -1 for the tournament through 16

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 01:40 PM
Vijay Singh is now in the clubhouse at Even par after posting his second 70 in as many days.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 02:16 PM
The leaders in the clubhouse at Even par are: Michael Campbell, Vijay Singh, and Sergio Garcia, who turned in a -1 today.

Furyk finished even for the day and +1 overall.

Tiger par'd the his first hole, so he's still Even.

There are now only 5 players in the red, including Olin Browne, who's E through 3 holes and still -3 for the tournament.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 02:32 PM
Tiger birdied the 2nd hole to go to -1 overall, and Goosen birdied his first hole, hole #10 to join the leaders at -3 for the tournament.

captainmorgan07
06-17-2005, 03:25 PM
phil's choaking early for once instead of late 77 might put him out of reach of the lead for the next 2 days

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 04:15 PM
+1 seems to be a very good score today, and its only expected to get worse.

Tiger is now +1 for the tournament.

Leaders are at -2. Olin Browne, Rocco Mediate, Lee Westwood, K.J. Choi and Retief Goosen all at -2 for the tournament.

Jason Gore, and American, is now -2 for the day and -1 for the tournament. He's the only other player in red figures besides the leaders, and he's through 4 holes.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 04:23 PM
Tiger struggles through the front nine with a 37.

He's now +2 for the tournament.

RFS62
06-17-2005, 04:30 PM
Olin Browne shot an incredible 59 in a qualifying round to make the Open. All the available rooms in town were long gone by that time, and he's staying in a condo across the 9th fairway where I live.

He's playing out of his mind, and is lasting far beyond I would have ever imagined.

But it's all just jockeying for position right now and trying not to play your way out of contention. The pressure turns up another notch tomorrow, and then Sunday, and finally the back nine on Sunday.

You're going to see the best golfers on earth falling apart as the pressure builds.

Reds Fanatic
06-17-2005, 04:35 PM
Browne now is now leading by 2 strokes and is at -4.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 04:37 PM
Olin Browne shot an incredible 59 in a qualifying round to make the Open. All the available rooms in town were long gone by that time, and he's staying in a condo across the 9th fairway where I live.

He's playing out of his mind, and is lasting far beyond I would have ever imagined.

But it's all just jockeying for position right now and trying not to play your way out of contention. The pressure turns up another notch tomorrow, and then Sunday, and finally the back nine on Sunday.

You're going to see the best golfers on earth falling apart as the pressure builds.

You live right on the course, '62?

Awesome.

RFS62
06-17-2005, 04:38 PM
Not Pinehurst 2, I live on another course here.

I'm not a gazillionaire.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 04:40 PM
Not Pinehurst 2, I live on another course here.

I'm not a gazillionaire.

Still pretty cool. I can't even image what the houses would cost off of Pinehurt No. 2. Start at $1.5M, at least, I'm sure.

RFS62
06-17-2005, 04:43 PM
Yeah, we've got over 60 world class courses in the Pinehurst area. It's golf heaven.

Chip R
06-17-2005, 04:49 PM
Still pretty cool. I can't even image what the houses would cost off of Pinehurt No. 2. Start at $1.5M, at least, I'm sure.Just think how much they'd be if they were off Pinehurst No. 1. Stands to reason No. 1 is better than No. 2. ;)

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 06:22 PM
Olin Browne is in the clubhouse at -2.

Tiger was up to +2, but he birdied and now sits at +1 through 16.

David Toms and Retief Goosen are both -3 through 16 and 15 respectively.

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 06:43 PM
Ernie Els and Davis Love III are both done with second round, both +7 overall :eek: .

Red Leader
06-17-2005, 06:48 PM
Tiger posted a 71, he's +1 for the tournament.

The two leaders are Olin Browne (in the clubhouse) and Retief Goosen (through 16) at -2.

Five players in red figures.

I'm thinking -2 or -3 wins this tournament.

RFS62
06-20-2005, 11:02 AM
Ok, who had Campbell?

I doubt even his mother predicted this.

Gossen's collapse was historic, right up there with Norman at the Masters a few years ago.

I haven't played and watched so much golf in a long time as I did last week.

Red Leader
06-20-2005, 11:42 AM
Great, great tournament.

Pinehurst No. 2 remains one of my favorite locations for an Open.

I love courses where pros struggle to get to Even par.

That course was a monster yesterday.

Congratulations to Michael Campbell.

I can't remember an Open that so many leaders put up +3 scores or higher in the final round.

kheidg-
06-20-2005, 12:17 PM
Good tournament. Nice to see the big boys struggle for a change rather than seeing a -21. After a horrible first round, Davis Love III ties for 6th place. Surprising that not a single person finishes under par.