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pedro
06-16-2005, 07:38 PM
Atlanta
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Furcal ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .220
M. Giles 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .274
J. Franco 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .253
A. Jones cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .253
A. Marte 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .185
J. Estrada c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .278
B. Jordan rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .229
Langerhans lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .252
J. Smoltz p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .111
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Freel 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .294
J. Randa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .285
K. Griffey. cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272
W. Pena rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286
A. Dunn 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .244
F. Lopez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .297
J. Cruz lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .296
J. Valentin c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .232
B. Claussen p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Tommyjohn25
06-16-2005, 07:41 PM
Hmmm, don't like Felo batting that low. Other than that it's okay...I guess.

Eric_Davis
06-16-2005, 07:42 PM
Is this on TNT or TBS?

Raisor
06-16-2005, 07:43 PM
Is this on TNT or TBS?

nope..

Turner South

OnBaseMachine
06-16-2005, 07:43 PM
Is this on TNT or TBS?

No...I just checked the TNT website and the Sunday game is the only televised game of this series.

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 07:44 PM
I would like it better if Randa and Lopez flip-flopped in the order, and maybe Peņa and Dunn also, but I suppose it could be worse.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 07:45 PM
Pena's gonna take Smoltz yard tonight. Dunn too.

rdiersin
06-16-2005, 07:47 PM
Pena's gonna take Smoltz yard tonight. Dunn too.

I like that type of thinking. Lets hope it comes true.

pedro
06-16-2005, 07:48 PM
Pena's gonna take Smoltz yard tonight. Dunn too.

I hope your right but I think it's much more likely Pena K's 4 times.

Dunn OTOH......

Eric_Davis
06-16-2005, 07:48 PM
Tx.

No better time to catch the Braves.

Milton won't pitch in the series.

corkedbat
06-16-2005, 07:49 PM
Wasn't Franco there when Doubleday invented the game? :laugh:

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 07:52 PM
Tx.

No better time to catch the Braves.

Milton won't pitch in the series.

He's pitching Saturday against the Braves.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 07:52 PM
I hope your right but I think it's much more likely Pena K's 4 times.

Dunn OTOH......

Smoltz's fastball isn't what it used to be, but he still relies on it. Pena's one of the best fastball hitters in the game; so is Dunn.

pedro
06-16-2005, 07:54 PM
Smoltz's fastball isn't what it used to be, but he still relies on it. Pena's one of the best fastball hitters in the game; so is Dunn.

true, but Pena sucks against RH pitchers and Smoltz has a nasty slider. I doubt he even throws a strike against Pena. Why should he?

rdiersin
06-16-2005, 07:55 PM
Anyone else concerned about Claussen? I hope he has a good game. Here is something interesting.


IP ERA K/9 K/BB FIP Xr Xr/9
48 3.94 5.81 1.72 4.93 28.39 5.32

This is an estimate of Xr, but I've found that it closely follows era in most pitchers. Hopefully he keeps up whatever he's doing to get out of jams.

Raisor
06-16-2005, 07:55 PM
I don't have to listen to Grande and Welsh tonight.

Es muy bueno.

pedro
06-16-2005, 07:56 PM
although, I just looked at Pena's stats and he is doing much better againts RH's this year than I'd thought.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 07:57 PM
true, but Pena sucks against RH pitchers and Smoltz has a nasty slider. I doubt he even throws a strike against Pena. Why should he?

Maybe he won't. Maybe the Braves already know the book on Pena. But I doubt it. And Smoltz doesn't throw much more than the fastball and slider anymore. It is just a hunch, but I have a feeling Smoltz is due to surrender some gopher balls.

oneupper
06-16-2005, 08:06 PM
Tx.

No better time to catch the Braves.

Milton won't pitch in the series.

Neither will Hudson...he went on the DL

(Their Hudson...not OUR Hudson)

Matt700wlw
06-16-2005, 08:12 PM
Furcal Homers...


the crazy part is...I played a hilite on Homer earlier of the back to back to back 1st inning against Jeff Ausin 2 years ago...

Furcal hit the first one...

Raisor
06-16-2005, 08:12 PM
Now Eric Milton is giving up homers in games he's not even pitching in!

HE MUST BE STOPPED!!

westofyou
06-16-2005, 08:14 PM
If the Braves score 1000 runs in the first would there still be a thread tomorrow about strikouts or RISP?

Raisor
06-16-2005, 08:14 PM
Didn't julio Franco make it to the majors in the late 50's?

rdiersin
06-16-2005, 08:16 PM
If the Braves score 1000 runs in the first would there still be a thread tomorrow about strikouts or RISP?

It depends. If one of their runs was scored on a SF, then probably yes.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 08:17 PM
Has FSN changed FX?

Well yes they have..George just told me about it :D

traderumor
06-16-2005, 08:20 PM
I think Claussen is tipping his pitches :evil:

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 08:21 PM
They do not have 13 straight titles, they did not win it in 1994.

Why do people ignore that? :rant:

It's 13 titles..but not straight

Tony Cloninger
06-16-2005, 08:22 PM
Miley will blame the hitting. Could not get anything going!

traderumor
06-16-2005, 08:23 PM
They do not have 13 straight titles, they did not win it in 1994.

Why do people ignore that? :rant:

It's 13 titles..but not straightNo titles were awarded in 1994. They didn't say 13 straight years, but titles. And its RBI, not RBIs, or RsBI ;)

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 08:24 PM
I still say it's wrong ;)

CrackerJack
06-16-2005, 08:29 PM
No titles were awarded in 1994.

As well as a possible WS title here in Cincy....:(

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 08:31 PM
Claussen really looks off tonight compared to his game against the Orioles.

westofyou
06-16-2005, 08:31 PM
The Reds lead the league in doubles and giving up doubles.

Matt700wlw
06-16-2005, 08:31 PM
As well as a possible WS title here in Cincy....:(

We'll never know. That was a good team

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1994.shtml

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 08:34 PM
The Expos would have crushed us in the NLCS.

The sun is really bright out there today :help:

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 08:37 PM
Furcal just pulled a Pena on that swing.

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 08:40 PM
The new sound effect at the beginning of each inning keeps making me pick up my cellphone.

westofyou
06-16-2005, 08:41 PM
kRYPTONITE

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 08:43 PM
The new sound effect at the beginning of each inning keeps making me pick up my cellphone.
:laugh:
I look around for whos phone is ringing

Dunn doubles

CTA513
06-16-2005, 08:49 PM
Someone really needs to show Pena were the strike zone is.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 08:50 PM
Someone really needs to show Pena were the strike zone is.

I think you mean the whole team.

BigRedSmokey
06-16-2005, 08:52 PM
Yeah, the phone thing is annoying. EVERYTIME it has come on I have reached for my cell phone. :censored:

But, I like the colors on the "fox box", that is special. lol

CTA513
06-16-2005, 09:00 PM
I think you mean the whole team.

Yeah the whole team, but Pena swings at stuff 5 miles away.

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 09:00 PM
5 k's for Claussen.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 09:05 PM
Smoltz manhandling the Reds.

Claussen's command has faltered him tonight, to bad because he has flashed some good stuff.

TRF
06-16-2005, 09:12 PM
Smoltz manhandling the Reds.

Claussen's command has faltered him tonight, to bad because he has flashed some good stuff.

I'm not seeing that at all. he got touched a little in the first, but since then he's been pretty solid.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 09:15 PM
I'm not seeing that at all. he got touched a little in the first, but since then he's been pretty solid.

That Smoltz AB is a good example, no way that should have happened.

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 09:17 PM
Still, 7 k's for Claussen through 3.5

CTA513
06-16-2005, 09:20 PM
I'm not seeing that at all. he got touched a little in the first, but since then he's been pretty solid.

Hes thrown 80 pitches in 4 innings. Hes to busy trying to paint the outside corner.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-16-2005, 09:21 PM
Randa's 9th HR. His career high is 16 so he's more than halfway there

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 09:27 PM
Giles HR. That didn't take long.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 09:29 PM
Giles HR. That didn't take long.

I don't sweat giving up jacks to the second or third best 2Bman in the majors.

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 09:31 PM
I don't sweat giving up jacks to the second or third best 2Bman in the majors.

My point was that we immediatley gave back the run that we finally got.

westofyou
06-16-2005, 09:32 PM
I don't sweat giving up jacks to the second or third best 2Bman in the majors.

1.160 vs. LH last year, he kills em.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 09:32 PM
I do however have a problem with giving up a hit and a walk to guys like Marte and Franco.

westofyou
06-16-2005, 09:34 PM
Belly flop by Cruz ... nice effort on a painful looking long strike

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 09:35 PM
9 k's now for Claussen as he gets out of the 5th inning.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 09:36 PM
You know what I've never understood? When coaches and managers say stuff like "We don't want to let a guy like Bonds beat us." Who would you rather get beat by: Bonds or Neifi Perez? Seriously. To me there's no shame in getting beat by the great ones; I'm made sick to my stomach getting beat by the goats.

CTA513
06-16-2005, 09:37 PM
Giles HR. That didn't take long.

Its not like he threw the pitch down the middle.
That pitch was a ball out off the plate and up.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 09:39 PM
We're gonna crush these guys

westofyou
06-16-2005, 09:40 PM
Chris and George are parading their HOF opinions around again... the vortex of stupidity continues to spin

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 09:41 PM
You know what I've never understood? When coaches and managers say stuff like "We don't want to let a guy like Bonds beat us." Who would you rather get beat by: Bonds or Neifi Perez? Seriously. To me there's no shame in getting beat by the great ones; I'm made sick to my stomach getting beat by the goats.

I think the idea is that guys like Neifi Perez are less likely to beat you than guys like Barry Bonds, so the manager isn't going to spit into the wind and take on a Bonds (or others of his ilk) when they have a better chance against small fry like Neifi.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 09:46 PM
I think the idea is that guys like Neifi Perez are less likely to beat you than guys like Barry Bonds, so the manager isn't going to spit into the wind and take on a Bonds (or others of his ilk) when they have a better chance against small fry like Neifi.

Yeah, I've heard coaches say that about walking guys like Bonds (in terms of strategy). But I'm talking about when they say it, as if to say, "we aren't going to be beat by their superstar." Maybe they still mean it in the original sense. Oh well. Maybe I'm just off my rocker.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 09:53 PM
You know what the sad thing about tonight is. Claussen wasn't firing on all cylinders tonight like he was against the Orioles, gave up to many dongs and hits, but got the K's when needed and almost got the QS.

Eric Milton would kill for a start like this. It just shows what a nightmare this year has been for Eric, he probably worships Claussen now hoping some of that good luck will rub off on him ;)

jmcclain19
06-16-2005, 09:56 PM
For anyone else who wants to know, I started a thread on it.

Thomas Pauly is out for the season

:thumbdown

Same old Reds development system

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 10:03 PM
For anyone else who wants to know, I started a thread on it.

Thomas Pauly is out for the season

:thumbdown

Same old Reds development system

Don't see this as a big problem unless he tore up a labrum. Let him replace Nelson as closer in AA next year. Though if they continue to start him, he may get seriously injured.

jmcclain19
06-16-2005, 10:05 PM
Don't see this as a big problem unless he tore up a labrum. Let him replace Nelson as closer in AA next year. Though if they continue to start him, he may get seriously injured.

I see it as a big problem. An endemic problem.

Kid comes in, healthy, able to pitch, puts up solid numbers.

Then gets injured.

If he has such poor mechanics, then it's the Reds job to fix those right when he signs. That's what the developmental and instructional leagues are for.

Just very frustrated, Pauly was an excellent prospect for the Reds who's now out for the year. Not a pretty picture.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 10:08 PM
I see it as a big problem. An endemic problem.

Kid comes in, healthy, able to pitch, puts up solid numbers.

Then gets injured.

If he has such poor mechanics, then it's the Reds job to fix those right when he signs. That's what the developmental and instructional leagues are for.

Just very frustrated, Pauly was an excellent prospect for the Reds who's now out for the year. Not a pretty picture.

You don't understand jm, do you think you could "fix" Scott Williamson? That is the type of pitcher Thomas is. I am not surprised he had a moderate injury.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:10 PM
Estrada doubles in a run 4-1 Braves.

Ravenlord
06-16-2005, 10:11 PM
i gotta side with Aronchis about the kind of guy Pauly is. i do think it's an idicment of the Reds developmental staff as well, as they should have recognized that he's a huge threat to himself starting, and converted him to the pen by now.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:11 PM
Jordan drives in a run 5-1 Braves.

Joseph
06-16-2005, 10:12 PM
Have I ever mentioned I hate when the infield is played in?

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:13 PM
Cruz throws out the runner at the plate.

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 10:13 PM
Cruz DP!

westofyou
06-16-2005, 10:14 PM
Have I ever mentioned I hate when the infield is played in?

Me too, it rarely works and most often allows another baserunner. Some managers hate to... like Earl weaver.

jmcclain19
06-16-2005, 10:14 PM
You don't understand jm, do you think you could "fix" Scott Williamson? That is the type of pitcher Thomas is. I am not surprised he had a moderate injury.

I've never seen his mechanics, so I'll just take your word for it. But there are always small tweeks good coaches can do. A move here, more leg motion here, move the release point slightly one way or another.

I understand arm injuries are a part of baseball, but the rash of high profile pitching prospects in the last couple of years for the Reds is just over the top.

Hall, Basham, Dumatrait, Gruler, Howington, Mattox, Pauly.

I'm sure I've missed a few. Everyone one of those guys was a top Reds prospect when he got hurt.

I just see a problem, a trend there, and I'm frustrated by it.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 10:14 PM
i gotta side with Aronchis about the kind of guy Pauly is. i do think it's an idicment of the Reds developmental staff as well, as they should have recognized that he's a huge threat to himself starting, and converted him to the pen by now.

Bingo. It is the desperation for starting pitching that let the Reds take a fireballing,2 pitch pitcher with violent pitching mechanics and try to "teach" him a changeup that he barely used and probably will never use correctly then try and make him a starter. I smell Nearhrig over that one because it fits from the Bowden era bombouts.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:17 PM
Wow Pena k's so fast you miss the at bat :help:

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:17 PM
Have I ever mentioned I hate when the infield is played in?Been starting to rethink that strategy, esp. with two runners in scoring position. Medium depth close enough to throw out the runner at the plate, but on the cut in the grass, you might just as well throw it in underhand.

On another note, the 2004 Braves are making the Reds look silly the way teams use to make them silly for years. Lesson, there is hope for a sad sack franchise like ours, but its not gonna come with the folks currently financing and running the ship.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:18 PM
Dunn hits one out of the stadium :eek:

SteelSD
06-16-2005, 10:18 PM
Coming into tonight, the Reds had posted a 6.87 ERA this June.

oneupper
06-16-2005, 10:18 PM
Wow Pena k's so fast you miss the at bat :help:

Wily Mo's evil twin is back

westofyou
06-16-2005, 10:19 PM
Hi I'm Adam Dunn, No One is on base you may challenge me now.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 10:19 PM
Toldja.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:19 PM
Dunn hits a long home run 5-2.

pedro
06-16-2005, 10:19 PM
The selfish giant strikes again.

#17

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 10:20 PM
Toldja.

I'll wait till Pena hits one until I give you full credit.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 10:20 PM
My guess that typical June fatigue is really starting to hit some arms like Harang which is really going to put "historically bad" into context.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:20 PM
"of course it only counts for one" :runaway:

pedro
06-16-2005, 10:20 PM
oh, and FCB called Dunn's shot preflight.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:21 PM
See, home runs like those ought to count for two runs, and if he had picked off the bird, it counts for a grand slam. Tie ball game.

westofyou
06-16-2005, 10:21 PM
Coming into tonight, the Reds had posted a 6.87 ERA this June.

That's the equivalent of Daryl Kiles 1999 Season in Colorado, or Lima's 2000 season.

In short horrible.

Matt700wlw
06-16-2005, 10:22 PM
That shot had some slight pop to it...

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:22 PM
I think Smoltz pitied us.

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:22 PM
Any particular reason for Cruz to be playing tonight, other than to go 0-3.

So now, Kearns could've started tonight in place of Cruz, and all 3 of the Boston games. Brilliant DanO :rolleyes:

OnBaseMachine
06-16-2005, 10:23 PM
Did they say how far that Dunn homer traveled? From the looks of it on Gameday... it was a monstrous shot.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:23 PM
Coming into tonight, the Reds had posted a 6.87 ERA this June.Does that include ballpark effects? :evil: And I bet if you back out Milton, Ortiz, and all the bad innings, it comes in at about 2.31 :devil:

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 10:24 PM
There are about 6 guys in the bullpen who should be in AAA.

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:24 PM
"of course it only counts for one" :runaway:

Yeah, Steve had to emphasize "Unfortunately, it was only a solo shot" :rolleyes:.. Darn it Dunn, why didn't you put someone on base first :laugh:

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:24 PM
I think Smoltz pitied us.
Smoltz reaction was hilarious though :laugh:

westofyou
06-16-2005, 10:24 PM
Any particular reason for Cruz to be playing tonight, other than to go 0-3.

So now, Kearns could've started tonight in place of Cruz, and all 3 of the Boston games. Brilliant DanO :rolleyes:

Aurlia has a hip pointer and Casey is out. Do you really think Kearns could have helped?

It kinda glosses over the 23 runs allowed in 3 games.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:25 PM
455 foot homer by Dunn. 4th HR ever hit over the batter's eye in center.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:25 PM
There are about 6 guys in the bullpen who should be in AAA....and five others who should be cut

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:25 PM
Well, it would be nice to get a good appearance out of Coffey out of this game..

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:26 PM
Well, it would be nice to get a good appearance out of Coffey out of this game..

That wasn't meant to be sarcastic.. I really hope he does good. I think he has a lot of promise.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:26 PM
Aurlia has a hip pointer and Casey is out. Do you really think Kearns could have helped?

It kinda glosses over the 23 runs allowed in 3 games.Don't you go getting all rational.

SteelSD
06-16-2005, 10:26 PM
There are about 6 guys in the bullpen who should be in AAA.

I've figured it out.

This bullpen is like the Borg. A bunch of guys. All the same.

They appear to have even assimilated Ryan Wagner, who held out as long as he could.

Resistance is futile.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:26 PM
Shenanigans on RR for quoting himself ;)

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:27 PM
I've figured it out.

This bullpen is like the Borg. A bunch of guys. All the same.

They appear to have even assimilated Ryan Wagner, who held out as long as he could.

Resistance is futile.

If they start talking the same then I'm going to be scared.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 10:27 PM
If only Coffey hadn't gone to the fall league, he would be the closer right now :p:

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 10:28 PM
Rich has hip-pointers: is he going to have a baby like Neal from The Young Ones?

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:28 PM
Aurlia has a hip pointer and Casey is out. Do you really think Kearns could have helped?

.

It might not make the difference in winning this battle, but as far as winning the war.. yes.. it would help.

How long is Casey out? Sorry, I've been out of the loop .

SteelSD
06-16-2005, 10:28 PM
If they start talking the same then I'm going to be scared.

Nah. The Borg don't all sound alike when they speak.

Milton is the Borg Queen, BTW.

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 10:28 PM
Aurlia has a hip pointer and Casey is out. Do you really think Kearns could have helped?

It kinda glosses over the 23 runs allowed in 3 games.

Thanks for getting to that one before I could. I don't think I would have been as diplomatic.

Folks, there is nothing wrong with giving your top pinch-hitter (especially one who is hitting almost .300) an occasional start, especially when the roster is depleted by nagging injuries and a leave of absence. The occasional start helps keep him sharp, and also serves as a reward for a job well done.

Matt700wlw
06-16-2005, 10:29 PM
If they start talking the same then I'm going to be scared.

http://www.moviesnapshot.com/1995Stills/Village_Of_The_Damned.JPG

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:29 PM
It might not make the difference in winning this battle, but as far as winning the war.. yes.. it would help.

How long is Casey out? Sorry, I've been out of the loop . Only 2 days to attend a funeral. He will be back tomorrow.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:30 PM
Nah. The Borg don't all sound alike when they speak.

Milton is the Borg Queen, BTW.

The one from First Contact or the Voyager one?

It's important ;)

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 10:30 PM
Wasn't Julio Franco involved in the Von Hayes deal between the Indians and the Phillies?

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:31 PM
http://www.moviesnapshot.com/1995Stills/Village_Of_The_Damned.JPG

That is some horrendous RedEye :laugh:

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:32 PM
Wasn't Julio Franco involved in the Von Hayes deal between the Indians and the Phillies? Yes he was one of 5 players traded for Hayes.

SteelSD
06-16-2005, 10:32 PM
The one from First Contact or the Voyager one?

It's important ;)

Don't you dare ever mention Voyager again. That show does NOT exist. I have wiped it from my brain forever.

Except for Seven of Nine. She lives on.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 10:32 PM
Thanks for getting to that one before I could. I don't think I would have been as diplomatic.

Folks, there is nothing wrong with giving your top pinch-hitter (especially one who is hitting almost .300) an occasional start, especially when the roster is depleted by nagging injuries and a leave of absence. The occasional start helps keep him sharp, and also serves as a reward for a job well done.

Now that the cat's out of the bag, the milk has been spilt, the Cheerios have been peed in, or whatever cliche you can stand, I agree, no problem giving Cruz a start.

The wise one finds a way to not end up in this spot to begin with.

RFS62
06-16-2005, 10:32 PM
Rich has hip-pointers: is he going to have a baby like Neal from The Young Ones?



That was a great show.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:34 PM
Don't you dare ever mention Voyager again. That show does NOT exist. I have wiped it from my brain forever.

Except for Seven of Nine. She lives on.

Ok, I'm on board for that..well I can do without 7 :thumbup: :D

Patrick Bateman
06-16-2005, 10:34 PM
Wasn't Julio Franco involved in the Von Hayes deal between the Indians and the Phillies?

I think he was actually the PTBNL in the Babe Ruth deal.

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:35 PM
Thanks for getting to that one before I could. I don't think I would have been as diplomatic.

ok, I guess that's a nice way to tell me that I said something dumb :laugh:

Sure, there's nothing wrong with giving the bench guys a spot start. The problem is, we're forced to do it. The roster is depleted because DanO sent Kearns to AAA.

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 10:36 PM
DANG!!! I keep reaching for my cellphone!

DANG!!! Valentin just misses a HR!

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:36 PM
Valentin just missed a home run. Jordan catches it against the wall.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:38 PM
this spanish rice is good

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:40 PM
8th inning in a game the Braves are making look easy (a .500 team, mind you) and Smoltz is as focused as the postseason. We need a few professionals with the kind of focus and intensity, oh and ability.

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 10:41 PM
ok, I guess that's a nice way to tell me that I said something dumb :laugh:

Sure, there's nothing wrong with giving the bench guys a spot start. The problem is, we're forced to do it. The roster is depleted because DanO sent Kearns to AAA.

No, that's not how I meant it at all. What I mean is that Austin Kearns played his way to AAA. And he did so before the Aurilia injury or the death of Casey's cousin. So the roster is not depleted because Kearns got sent to Louisville.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:41 PM
this spanish rice is good
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NoCalRed
06-16-2005, 10:41 PM
Rich has hip-pointers: is he going to have a baby like Neal from The Young Ones?

That wasn't Neal, I believe it was Vivian.

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 10:42 PM
Mmmmmm....spanish rice......

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:42 PM
ShareThere you go, how is it?

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 10:43 PM
That wasn't Neal, I believe it was Vivian.

You're right--Neal had to become a cop. Cut half his hair. Forgive me, I was an undergrad when that show was in its first American run, and well, I haven't seen it since then, plus :drink: ruins memory.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:43 PM
Not bad, pass the salt.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:44 PM
Mmmmmm....spanish rice......yes, mrs. traderumor made a batch for a family function saturday and I get to taste test. My recipe though.

westofyou
06-16-2005, 10:46 PM
You're right--Neal had to become a cop. Cut half his hair. Forgive me, I was an undergrad when that show was in its first American run, and well, I haven't seen it since then, plus :drink: ruins memory.

He killed the Hippie, I seen him him do it.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:46 PM
That stuff they try to pass off in Mexican restaurants is sad compared this. About as sad as the 2005 Reds (trying to keep it on topic, this is a game thread, don't want any negs ;) )

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:46 PM
Dunn will hit a grand slam to win this game

NoCalRed
06-16-2005, 10:46 PM
You're right--Neal had to become a cop. Cut half his hair. Forgive me, I was an undergrad when that show was in its first American run, and well, I haven't seen it since then, plus :drink: ruins memory.

Watch out for the special branch...lol Didn't that show first air in the US in the early 80's if so I was but a yougin in jr high. I just got a knack for remembering silly things, also I have it on dvd and watched it on a flight to Cincy last summer.

westofyou
06-16-2005, 10:47 PM
What I mean is that Austin Kearns played his way to AAA.

Like a champ, 33 starts and a mess of empty ab's in my fantasy league.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:47 PM
Not bad, pass the salt.Reds pitching and salt together are not allowed.

Matt700wlw
06-16-2005, 10:47 PM
Rietsma.....

westofyou
06-16-2005, 10:48 PM
That stuff they try to pass off in Mexican restaurants is sad compared this. About as sad as the 2005 Reds (trying to keep it on topic, this is a game thread, don't want any negs ;) )

Mexican joints in Ohio are a dubious journey to begin with.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:48 PM
Randa leads off the 9th with a walk

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:49 PM
My wife just called the Reds idiots for trading Rietsma

She's not a big baseball fan

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 10:49 PM
Watch out for the special branch...lol Didn't that show first air in the US in the early 80's if so I was but a yougin in jr high. I just got a knack for remembering silly things, also I have it on dvd and watched it on a flight to Cincy last summer.

I was an undergrad from 84 to 88--seems like it was on MTV about 86. Revenge of the Nerds era college experience. Choice. Betty Childs is so hot.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:50 PM
Junior singles. 1st and 2nd with no outs.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:50 PM
I'd prefer Pena K then hit into a DP.

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 10:50 PM
Pena's going yard.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Now for dessert, Dutch Apple Dessert

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Wasn't Julio Franco involved in the Von Hayes deal between the Indians and the Phillies?

I think you're right.. wow talk about ancient history :laugh:

Matt700wlw
06-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Rietsma must still think he's a member of the Reds bullpen :)

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 10:51 PM
There was his pitch

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Pena strikes out swinging.

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Now for dessert, Dutch Apple Dessert

I'm coming over, set a place at the table :D

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Alright. Never mind.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 10:52 PM
Bad time for WMP to go into a slump when he was given the shot to fool the Reds into playing him over Kearns, that should have been hit into the river.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:52 PM
Mexican joints in Ohio are a dubious journey to begin with.Don Pablos is pretty good

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 10:52 PM
George invokes the name of Bob Boone during the replay of Dunn's HR.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:52 PM
Dunn hits into a fielder's choice. Now 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:52 PM
No, that's not how I meant it at all. .

ok, sorry for taking it the wrong way..

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:53 PM
Well, there's something I never thought would happen.. Marty says something nice about Reitsma :lol:

Reds Nd2
06-16-2005, 10:53 PM
Did George just say Fielders Choice? :devil:

KronoRed
06-16-2005, 10:53 PM
I miss that pitcher.

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:54 PM
crap, Reds lose..

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2005, 10:54 PM
4 losses in a row. Reds have now scored 3 runs in the last 3 games.

Aronchis
06-16-2005, 10:54 PM
This team is in a full slump now, bad hitting now to go along with bad pitching.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:55 PM
Don't forget Reitsma cut his teeth on Danny Graves saves, of which that was one, well except for the 93-94 MPH fastballs

Matt700wlw
06-16-2005, 10:55 PM
I miss that pitcher.

So do I

REDREAD
06-16-2005, 10:57 PM
This team is in a full slump now, bad hitting now to go along with bad hitting.

I don't think we ever got out of the season long slump.. we just had a 2 week run of bad teams, followed by overachieving vs Baltimore.. This is "back to reality"

traderumor
06-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Well, the Gerber's Dutch Apple Dessert is better than the Del Monte, in case anyone was wondering. :)

CTA513
06-16-2005, 11:02 PM
The Reds need to have fielding & batting practice everyday. Everyone has to participate if you dont you get fined.

traderumor
06-16-2005, 11:04 PM
The Reds need to have fielding & batting practice everyday. Everyone has to participate if you dont you get fined.And our pitchers are gonna start providing batting practice for our guys, too? :evil:

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 11:04 PM
Don Pablos is pretty good

Ehh...I've had good food and not so good food there.

My maxim is that any Mexican restaurant had better have real Mexicans in it. We have a local restaurant around here. The first time I went there, there were four men in a booth (including one who looked like Freddy Fender's immensely large brother), speaking Spanish, drinking Dos Equis XX, and watching soccer (futbol) on Telemundo. I immediately said to myself, "This is an authentic Mexican restaurant."

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 11:05 PM
get fined.

Eaten. :fineprint

http://www.bpic.co.uk/bookrevs/spit.jpg

traderumor
06-16-2005, 11:12 PM
Ehh...I've had good food and not so good food there.

My maxim is that any Mexican restaurant had better have real Mexicans in it. We have a local restaurant around here. The first time I went there, there were four men in a booth (including one who looked like Freddy Fender's immensely large brother), speaking Spanish, drinking Dos Equis XX, and watching soccer (futbol) on Telemundo. I immediately said to myself, "This is an authentic Mexican restaurant."

It won't be authentic until the health department shuts it down at least once :devil:

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 11:22 PM
It won't be authentic until the health department shuts it down at least once :devil:

Uhhh, it wasn't the health department. It was INS. (No joke.)

westofyou
06-16-2005, 11:30 PM
My maxim is that any Mexican restaurant had better have real Mexicans in it.

Unless it's the Casa Nuevo in Athens.

Big Klu
06-16-2005, 11:31 PM
Unless it's the Casa Nuevo in Athens.

Good point.

I miss Athens.

pedro
06-16-2005, 11:33 PM
Unless it's the Casa Nuevo in Athens.

Yes, it is true, disenfranchised white surbanites can melt cheese adequately, given that they stole the recipes in mexico and mixed them with the Moosewood cookbook.

Oh, and it's Casa Nueva.

pedro
06-16-2005, 11:36 PM
Good point.

I miss Athens.

Me too.

Meet you there at the apocalypse. ;)

NoCalRed
06-16-2005, 11:48 PM
I was an undergrad from 84 to 88--seems like it was on MTV about 86. Revenge of the Nerds era college experience. Choice. Betty Childs is so hot.

Oh seemed to me it was more 81 or 82 if it was 86 then I was a happein sophmore. That's my pi :)

Falls City Beer
06-16-2005, 11:52 PM
Oh seemed to me it was more 81 or 82 if it was 86 then I was a happein sophmore. That's my pi :)

I think the show aired in England in 82; aired in the States late night on MTV Sunday night schedule, after "120 Minutes" @ 86, IIRC.

Smile pretty chickies.

guttle11
06-17-2005, 12:07 AM
Mexican joints in Ohio are a dubious journey to begin with.


the only good authentic mexican joint in this area is el meson here in West Carrollton

TeamBoone
06-17-2005, 12:11 AM
The Braves left 28 on base... wow!

M2
06-17-2005, 12:40 AM
One of the places where I once waited tables, the one with the same name as the Reds' 47th round draft pick, used to have a lot of Mexican dishes on the menu. Now this was the 80s and they were also selling Michelob as a "premium" beer, so the entire concept of authentic had yet to be discovered. People would sometimes ask me about the Mexican dishes, which consisted of gobs of melted Monterrey Jack cheese and something under it, and I'd tell them that we specialized in Mexican-Irish fusion cooking. You'd be amazed at how many people accept that as a reasonable statement and order the Mexican dishes saying, "Well then, I've got to try those enchiladas."

pedro
06-17-2005, 12:51 AM
One of the places where I once waited tables, the one with the same name as the Reds' 47th round draft pick, used to have a lot of Mexican dishes on the menu. Now this was the 80s and they were also selling Michelob as a "premium" beer, so the entire concept of authentic had yet to be discovered. People would sometimes ask me about the Mexican dishes, which consisted of gobs of melted Monterrey Jack cheese and something under it, and I'd tell them that we specialized in Mexican-Irish fusion cooking. You'd be amazed at how many people accept that as a reasonable statement and order the Mexican dishes saying, "Well then, I've got to try those enchiladas."

People love that melted cheese.

I worked at a Mexican place for 4 years. We used to joke that people ordered the following. Squares, Deep Fried Squares, Triangles, Tubes, or Stacks. Either way, the insides were always the same. They also called "quesadillas" "durangos" and "quesadillas" were deep fried "triangles". Basically big old deep fried empanadas with whatever you want in them.

It was a CO-OP and the source of the "when you call me an... it makes me feel like ....." nonsense that I was spouting the other day.