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Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 07:34 PM
ST LOUIS AT CINCINNATI -- LINEUPS


ST LOUIS CINCINNATI
AVG HR RBI AVG HR RBI
David Eckstein SS .298 2 21 Felipe Lopez SS .295 11 39
Abraham Nunez 2B .295 4 17 Rich Aurilia 2B .248 6 23
Albert Pujols 1B .332 17 56 Sean Casey 1B .322 3 31
Larry Walker RF .253 7 28 Ken Griffey Jr CF .278 12 46
Reggie Sanders LF .282 13 33 Joe Randa 3B .289 10 37
Scott Rolen 3B .257 5 20 Adam Dunn LF .247 18 37
So Taguchi CF .252 2 13 Wily Mo Pena RF .283 9 21
Yadier Molina C .246 2 20 Jason Larue C .247 5 23
Chris Carpenter RHP .071 0 0 Aaron Harang RHP .032 0 1
(9-4, 3.17) (4-5, 3.86)

Matt700wlw
06-20-2005, 07:35 PM
Edmonds is out for the series...

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 07:42 PM
This lineup is not logical.

missionhockey21
06-20-2005, 07:47 PM
Everytime Rich Aurilia bats second, my baseball soul dies a little bit. :(

Matt700wlw
06-20-2005, 07:50 PM
Walker scratched. Sanders moves up to 4th, Mabry comes in for Walker and bats 5th, and will play RF

pahster
06-20-2005, 07:50 PM
Nice. Marty just said on the Cardinal's pregame show that the offense is a major part of the problem with this team.

PuffyPig
06-20-2005, 07:52 PM
Everytime Rich Aurilia bats second, my baseball soul dies a little bit. :(

I generally agree, but that 1169 OPS in June indicates that we could ride his hot streak for a bit. Now, Miley would put him there (and has) when he was ice cold, but, for now, Miley gets a pass.

CrackerJack
06-20-2005, 07:55 PM
Nice. Marty just said on the Cardinal's pregame show that the offense is a major part of the problem with this team.

The good ole' boy network protecting Mr. Gullett and/or Miley maybe?

SteelSD
06-20-2005, 07:56 PM
Everytime Rich Aurilia bats second, my baseball soul dies a little bit. :(

Dear Mr. Dave Miley,

Every time you bat Aurilia in the 2-slot in the lineup, God kills a kitten.

Please think of the kittens next time.

Thankyousomuch,

SteelSD
Reds Fan and benefactor of cute fuzzy helpless little felines everywhere

http://www.geocities.com/mrsb1962/kittenpics01/mel07.jpg

8 Kittens like this one have perished for the sins of Dave Miley. How many are next?

Newport Red
06-20-2005, 08:05 PM
Everytime Rich Aurilia bats second, my baseball soul dies a little bit. :(

:) :) :)

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:08 PM
Here are the updated lineups.


ST LOUIS AT CINCINNATI -- REVISED LINEUPS
ST LOUIS CINCINNATI
AVG HR RBI AVG HR RBI
David Eckstein SS .298 2 21 Felipe Lopez SS .295 11 39
Abraham Nunez 2B .295 4 17 Rich Aurilia 2B .248 6 23
Albert Pujols 1B .332 17 56 Sean Casey 1B .322 3 31
Reggie Sanders LF .282 13 33 Ken Griffey Jr CF .278 12 46
John Mabry RF .270 4 20 Joe Randa 3B .289 10 37
Scott Rolen 3B .257 5 20 Adam Dunn LF .247 18 37
So Taguchi CF .252 2 13 Wily Mo Pena RF .283 9 21
Yadier Molina C .246 2 20 Jason Larue C .247 5 23
Chris Carpenter RHP .071 0 0 Aaron Harang RHP .032 0 1
(9-4, 3.17) (4-5, 3.86)

Patrick Bateman
06-20-2005, 08:10 PM
I generally agree, but that 1169 OPS in June indicates that we could ride his hot streak for a bit. Now, Miley would put him there (and has) when he was ice cold, but, for now, Miley gets a pass.

I tend to agree with you there. Normally Aurillia at second is horrendous, but lately he has crushed the ball including a really good game yesterday where he had 5 good at-bats.

TC81190
06-20-2005, 08:12 PM
Joe...Randa..batting...in front of ADAM DUNN! :angry: :bang:

wheels
06-20-2005, 08:12 PM
Why hasn't Freel been playing lately?

Is he hurt?

:bang: :bang:

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:12 PM
Eckstein lines a hit off Lopez's glove to lead off.

Patrick Bateman
06-20-2005, 08:14 PM
Joe...Randa..batting...in front of ADAM DUNN! :angry: :bang:

Well they are doing it to break up the lefties but I really disagree with the way they are doing it.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:14 PM
This is not starting well. Nunez lines a hit to left. 1st and 2nd with no outs.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 08:16 PM
Setting up a triple play

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:17 PM
Pujols walks. Bases loaded with no outs.

flyer85
06-20-2005, 08:18 PM
Nice. Marty just said on the Cardinal's pregame show that the offense is a major part of the problem with this team.that's why the braves scored 8 and lost

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:22 PM
Sanders flies out to right. 1 out.

Joseph
06-20-2005, 08:22 PM
Finally an out. And even with it Grande finds a way to compliment the Cards.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:24 PM
Mabry strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Joseph
06-20-2005, 08:25 PM
Harang for Cy Young.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:25 PM
Rolen grounds out to Randa. Good job by Harang to get out of that with no runs scoring.

Patrick Bateman
06-20-2005, 08:25 PM
He gets out of it some how.

CTA513
06-20-2005, 08:25 PM
holy cow Harang got out of a BIG jam.

pahster
06-20-2005, 08:25 PM
That was scary.

rdiersin
06-20-2005, 08:25 PM
Great job by Harang to get out of the inning.

Az Red
06-20-2005, 08:26 PM
Good recovery from a sloppy start.

DoogMinAmo
06-20-2005, 08:27 PM
30 pitch first inning. Here is to hoping the next 6 will be a lot easier.

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 08:27 PM
I tend to agree with you there. Normally Aurillia at second is horrendous, but lately he has crushed the ball including a really good game yesterday where he had 5 good at-bats.

Generally a good game gets you benched in these parts. ;)

Wheels: Freel has something wrong with his toe(s).

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:30 PM
Lopez grounds out to 3rd.
Aurilia grounds out to short.
Casey grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 after 1.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 08:33 PM
Finally an out. And even with it Grande finds a way to compliment the Cards.

He loves them :eek:

rdiersin
06-20-2005, 08:33 PM
Lopez grounds out to 3rd.
Aurilia grounds out to short.
Casey grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 after 1.

So does that mean Jr is going to ground out to 1st?

Raisor
06-20-2005, 08:33 PM
Wheels: Freel has something wrong with his toe(s).

I heard he has 12 toes, just like Linda Cohn.

Chip R
06-20-2005, 08:33 PM
Generally a good game gets you benched in these parts. ;)

Hopefully some team will give us something for him.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:34 PM
Taguchi grounds out to short. Good play by Lopez.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:36 PM
Molina grounds out to short.
Carpentar strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 2nd.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 08:37 PM
Can't trade Randa or Aurilia, Miley would go insane without them in the 2-4 spot ;)

Az Red
06-20-2005, 08:37 PM
Harang has either regained his focus or its just a weak bottom of the order.

DoogMinAmo
06-20-2005, 08:38 PM
9 pitch inning for Harang. Nice job against the bottom of the order, hope it continues.

pahster
06-20-2005, 08:38 PM
I just heard one of the Cardinals announcers say Selig wants to use the DH in NL parks during interleague games next year. I hope that's not true.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-20-2005, 08:40 PM
I just heard one of the Cardinals announcers say Selig wants to use the DH in NL parks during interleague games next year. I hope that's not true.

So would pitchers bat in AL parks? If not that would be a VERY disturbing sign.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 08:40 PM
I just heard one of the Cardinals announcers say Selig wants to use the DH in NL parks during interleague games next year. I hope that's not true.
:rant:

OUTLAW THE DH!

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:41 PM
I just heard one of the Cardinals announcers say Selig wants to use the DH in NL parks during interleague games next year. I hope that's not true. I have heard the same thing.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:42 PM
Junior pops out to 2nd.
Randa singles.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 08:45 PM
So would pitchers bat in AL parks? If not that would be a VERY disturbing sign.
I never knew Bud was such a DH fan, I thought it was the players union who was so in love with keeping players around who can't play D

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:45 PM
Dunn flies out to right. 2 outs.

OnBaseMachine
06-20-2005, 08:45 PM
Dunn just missed that.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:46 PM
Pena grounds into a fielder's choice. 0-0 after 2.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 08:46 PM
That would have been a sac fly if Randa had been a team player and gotten to 3rd

CTA513
06-20-2005, 08:47 PM
That would have been a sac fly if Randa had been a team player and gotten to 3rd

lol

DoogMinAmo
06-20-2005, 08:48 PM
Whats the over under on RS today: 5 runs

St. Louis: under
Reds: over

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:54 PM
Eckstein lines out to right.
Nunez grounds out to 3rd.
Pujols singles to left.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:55 PM
Sanders doubles to left center. 1-0 Cards.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 08:57 PM
Mabry strikes out swinging. 1-0 Cards mid 3rd.

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 09:00 PM
OMG, is anyone listening on the radio? That was the cutest kid announcer I have ever heard. :lol:

rdiersin
06-20-2005, 09:01 PM
OMG, is anyone listening on the radio? That was the cutest kid announcer I have ever heard. :lol:

Yea, that was pretty funny. ruuuuuueee, he kinda got stuck with the La. Thats a toughie for a little kid.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:02 PM
Larue grounds out to 3rd.
Harang grounds out to 1st.
Lopez walks.

Az Red
06-20-2005, 09:03 PM
Send Lopez or not... you decide...

I say send him.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:04 PM
Aurilia strikes out swinging. 1-0 Cards after 3.

Az Red
06-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Oh, well, a lot of good it would have done.

rdiersin
06-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Gotta love those contact hitters batting 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:12 PM
Rolen grounds out to short.
Taguchi flies out to right.
Molina singles.
Carpentar strikes out swinging. 1-0 Cards mid 4th.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:17 PM
Casey grounds out to 1st.
Junior grounds out to 1st.
Randa flies out to center. 1-0 Cards after 4.

westofyou
06-20-2005, 09:21 PM
Is George Grande from this century?

He's so cheesy I'm getting a wicked phelgm buildup just listening to him.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:23 PM
Eckstein walks.
Nunez hits a soft line drive double play 6-3. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:27 PM
Pujols walks.
Sanders the Reds killer strikes again. 2 run HR. 3-0 Cards.

DoogMinAmo
06-20-2005, 09:29 PM
Why is it former Reds always come back to kill them?

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:30 PM
Mabry pops out to 2nd. 3-0 Cards mid 5th.

Patrick Bateman
06-20-2005, 09:31 PM
What's with Grandes' and Welche's obsession with Sanders. It's painful to listen to.

CTA513
06-20-2005, 09:31 PM
Reds are pretty much out of this one.

Big Klu
06-20-2005, 09:35 PM
What's with Grandes' and Welche's obsession with Sanders. It's painful to listen to.

It's only because Jim Edmonds, a.k.a. "The Jim Brown of Baseball", is not in the lineup tonight.

DoogMinAmo
06-20-2005, 09:36 PM
Pena flat out foolish on that K.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:37 PM
Dunn strikes out swinging.
Pena strikes out swinging.
Larue strikes out swinging. 3-0 Cards after 5.

CTA513
06-20-2005, 09:38 PM
Reds are pretty much out of this one.

:thumbup:

Kc61
06-20-2005, 09:38 PM
Dunn, Pena and Larue, as one might expect, all strikeout that inning. I know, strikeouts don't matter.

Patrick Bateman
06-20-2005, 09:38 PM
It's only because Jim Edmonds, a.k.a. "The Jim Brown of Baseball", is not in the lineup tonight.

Yeah I guess their man love has to be deflected on somebody.

Patrick Bateman
06-20-2005, 09:39 PM
:thumbup:

I know you are probably right but why do you seem gleeful about it?

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:43 PM
Rolen grounds out to short.
Taguchi grounds out to short.
Molina grounds out to 2nd. 3-0 Cards mid 6th.

DoogMinAmo
06-20-2005, 09:43 PM
It seems like Harang is working on his secondary pitches on the bottom of the order, but he still manages to cruise through it. If only Reggies Sanders didn't take this game so personally, it would be a lot closer.

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 09:43 PM
The Reds are getting one-hit. I do not like that.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-20-2005, 09:47 PM
The Reds are getting one-hit. I do not like that.

For the second time in less than a week.

DoogMinAmo
06-20-2005, 09:47 PM
The Reds are getting one-hit. I do not like that.

It is still early ;)

GAC
06-20-2005, 09:47 PM
Pitching wins. ;)

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:48 PM
Harang strikes out swinging.
Lopez grounds out to 2nd.
Aurilia is robbed of a HR by Taguchi in center. 3-0 Cards after 6.

pahster
06-20-2005, 09:48 PM
Great play by Taguchi.

pedro
06-20-2005, 09:48 PM
taguchi steals a HR from RA.! nice catch.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-20-2005, 09:48 PM
Aurilia gets robbed of a HR.

The Cardinals are usually good for at least one HR rob of the Reds per series. It's almost not fair anymore. :bang:

Patrick Bateman
06-20-2005, 09:48 PM
Will somebody tell Grande too shut the %$#@ up!

guttle11
06-20-2005, 09:48 PM
taguchi with a WEB GEM :clap:

HE GOT IT, HE GOT IT!!!! says George :bang:

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 09:49 PM
Who needs Edmonds when there's Taguchi out there?

CTA513
06-20-2005, 09:50 PM
Carpenter at 72 pitches after 6 innings, He should have a complete game unless the Reds take some pitches.

traderumor
06-20-2005, 09:51 PM
When they give Miley and O'Brien their pink slips, can they slip in and do the same for Welsh and Grande?

Cedric
06-20-2005, 09:52 PM
Grande is an embarrasment. He doesn't change his tone of voice and he really is happy about the play I think.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:53 PM
Carpenter strikes out looking.
Eckstein triples off Pena's glove.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-20-2005, 09:53 PM
taguchi with a WEB GEM :clap:

HE GOT IT, HE GOT IT!!!! says George :bang:

Does Grande realize that the overwhelming majority of his viewing audience isn't excited and overjoyed when the opposition (particularly the Cardinals) do something like that against the Reds? Who, exactly, does he think is watching these games? I don't care how great of a catch it was...it's upsetting, annoying and frustrating when that constantly happens against the Reds.

guttle11
06-20-2005, 09:53 PM
honestly, How many times will Wily Mo DROP a freakin' ball :rant2:

flyer85
06-20-2005, 09:53 PM
looked like WMP whiffed that catch

westofyou
06-20-2005, 09:54 PM
I've yet to see the IF being brought in work for the Reds this year.

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 09:54 PM
I missed the WMP (mis)play, can someone tell me what happened?

guttle11
06-20-2005, 09:55 PM
spell it with me now Wily Mo, s-l-i-d-i-n-g c-a-t-c-h-


and Rich cant get one either

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:55 PM
Nunez singles. 4-0 Cards.

Newport Red
06-20-2005, 09:55 PM
When they give Miley and O'Brien their pink slips, can they slip in and do the same for Welsh and Grande?

Watch it mister.
Grande is an ESPN original.
Next, you'll want to ban "Video Killed the Radio Star."

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:56 PM
I've yet to see the IF being brought in work for the Reds this year. Every time Miley does it it leads to hits and runs. You would think eventually he would learn but it is Miley we are talking about.

CTA513
06-20-2005, 09:56 PM
I didnt get to see were Pena was playing, but I bet he was playing more towards right center like he always does.

guttle11
06-20-2005, 09:56 PM
ball hit to WMP, he runs in and tries to basket it, ball hits front of his glove, goes by him

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:57 PM
I missed the WMP (mis)play, can someone tell me what happened? Pena basically circled around a line drive and it hit off the top of his glove. He might have caught it with a dive.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 09:58 PM
Wagner comes in. Pujols homers. 6-0 Cards. :bang:

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-20-2005, 09:58 PM
Pujols continues his ownership of Reds pitching.

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 09:59 PM
Pena basically circled around a line drive and it hit off the top of his glove. He might have caught it with a dive.

Thanks. :)

Was it a ball he should have caught, or just one he maybe could have caught?

CTA513
06-20-2005, 09:59 PM
GAME OVER!
Harang gets charged with the runner on base and now his ERA is 4.08

Falls City Beer
06-20-2005, 09:59 PM
Can someone explain to me why Ryan Wagner isn't in AAA? He's not helping, and he's only getting shellshock. Before long, he'll Reith.

rdiersin
06-20-2005, 10:00 PM
If the Reds do end up firing Gullett, they should bring in Wagners old pitching coach from Houston. He's the only one that seems to be able to get his mechanics where they need to be.

traderumor
06-20-2005, 10:00 PM
Pujols continues his ownership of Reds pitching.The entire major leagues owns Reds pitching.

CTA513
06-20-2005, 10:00 PM
Wagner went from being the setup man to pitching when ever they need someone.

:/

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 10:00 PM
Pujols continues his ownership of Reds pitching.

His line so far: 2-for-2, 3 runs scored, 2RBI, 2BB.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:01 PM
Thanks. :)

Was it a ball he should have caught, or just one he maybe could have caught? It wasn't the easiest play but a lot of right fielder's would slide and make the catch or make a better effort than Pena did.

Matt700wlw
06-20-2005, 10:01 PM
If the Reds do end up firing Gullett, they should bring in Wagners old pitching coach from Houston. He's the only one that seems to be able to get his mechanics where they need to be.

Maybe they were where they needed to be until he came under Don Gullett's watch....

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:02 PM
Wagner's ERA is now up to 5.65 what happened to the pitcher from April.

rdiersin
06-20-2005, 10:02 PM
Maybe they were where they needed to be until he came under Don Gullett's watch....

That's the point. He went back over the winter and worked with him. Now, later in the season he is having trouble again. The Reds should let him have a couple days off and pay for his trip down there to get him back where he needs to be.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-20-2005, 10:03 PM
The Reds aren't really even competitive against upper echelon teams now -- Boston, Atlanta, Cardinals. Trailing by 6-7 runs, getting one-hit, etc. What more does this F.O. need to see?

pedro
06-20-2005, 10:03 PM
Can someone explain to me why Ryan Wagner isn't in AAA? He's not helping, and he's only getting shellshock. Before long, he'll Reith.

I agree. The Reds are destroying him.

SteelSD
06-20-2005, 10:04 PM
Even with a scaled-down Cards lineup, this pitching staff can figure out how to give them six runs.

And I want Gullett's head on a platter for screwing up Ryan Wagner...among other things.

CTA513
06-20-2005, 10:04 PM
Wagner's ERA is now up to 5.65 what happened to the pitcher from April.

They are over using him. He was supposed to be the setup man and now they use him when ever they need a relief pitcher. They are doing the same thing to Keisler.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:09 PM
Randa singles only the 2nd hit for the Reds tonight.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-20-2005, 10:09 PM
Randa with both Reds hits tonight off Carpenter.

Hopefully the Dodgers are watching. They might have to face STL in the playoffs and Randa can certainly hit Carpenter.

TeamBoone
06-20-2005, 10:13 PM
Nice at bat by Adam.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:16 PM
Coffey comes in and gives up a single to Taguchi and a double to Molina.

CTA513
06-20-2005, 10:18 PM
I think Id have Coffey stay in the rest of the game. No reason to keep on using more pitchers when theres a 100% chance they are going to lose and be shutout.

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 10:19 PM
The Reds aren't really even competitive against upper echelon teams now -- Boston, Atlanta, Cardinals. Trailing by 6-7 runs, getting one-hit, etc. What more does this F.O. need to see?

Hancock and Machado!

:runaway:

Matt700wlw
06-20-2005, 10:19 PM
Hancock and Machado!

:runaway:

They are the key components in the world of Dan O'Brien...

CTA513
06-20-2005, 10:23 PM
Hancock and Machado!

:runaway:

Hancock will come up when Harang gets traded, and Machado will come up when Lopez is traded.

RosieRed
06-20-2005, 10:28 PM
Hancock will come up when Harang gets traded, and Machado will come up when Lopez is traded.

Please don't suggest such craziness, DanO could be reading and get ideas!

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Lopez homers. 6-1.

OnBaseMachine
06-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Felipe homers! His 12th.

shutout over.

LoganBuck
06-20-2005, 10:38 PM
What went on between Carpenter and Lopez there? They definately were having words.

Cedric
06-20-2005, 10:39 PM
What was Carpenter's problem after the homer? It sure looked like he was pissed and Felipe noticed it and almost stopped at home plate. Felipe didn't stare or showboat or do anything after the homer. Sorta confused me.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 10:39 PM
Reds are stinky

Go Felo :D

LoganBuck
06-20-2005, 10:39 PM
Rally!

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:40 PM
Aurilia walks. Ray King coming in to pitch.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 10:40 PM
Lets go Grand Slams!

CTA513
06-20-2005, 10:41 PM
Somebody call up Kearns and tell him Ray King is coming in to pitch.

LoganBuck
06-20-2005, 10:42 PM
Maybe his good buddy Dunn will go get some of King!

Matt700wlw
06-20-2005, 10:42 PM
Ok Ray...don't sit on anyone...

LoganBuck
06-20-2005, 10:43 PM
They just showed the Felipe homer trot again, and it definately looked like Carpenter was popping off to Felo for no real good reason.

Casey just misses the DP.

Cedric
06-20-2005, 10:43 PM
Why is it necessary for the Cardinals to have goons and classless players spread out throughout their whole roster? Carpenter is a bush league player. He was pissed at Felipe because he gave up a homer and lost his little scoreless streak. Disgusting.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:43 PM
Casey grounds out. Aurilia goes to 2nd. 1 out.

LoganBuck
06-20-2005, 10:44 PM
Is it just me or does King throw the best pitch of the at bat on the first pitch?

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:46 PM
Junior grounds out. 2 outs.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 10:46 PM
Hey Chris..you threw the pitch..your fault not Felos

ochre
06-20-2005, 10:47 PM
Are those "soft" productive outs for advancing the runner when they are down by 5?

Cedric
06-20-2005, 10:47 PM
Next time we play the Cardinals someone better stick Carpenter right in the ribs. But I'm sure this staff will forget.

Reds Fanatic
06-20-2005, 10:48 PM
Randa strikes out. Reds lose 6-1.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 10:50 PM
So much for a sweep

CTA513
06-20-2005, 10:51 PM
They just showed the Felipe homer trot again, and it definately looked like Carpenter was popping off to Felo for no real good reason.

Casey just misses the DP.

I was wondering what Lopez was looking back at when coming home.

Matt700wlw
06-20-2005, 10:52 PM
So much for a sweep

....nah, it's still very much alive...

OldXOhio
06-20-2005, 10:52 PM
Next time we play the Cardinals someone better stick Carpenter right in the ribs. But I'm sure this staff will forget.

74 mph junk tends not to leave a lasting impression anyway.

RedlegNation
06-20-2005, 10:58 PM
Every time I watch Rich Aurilia hitting near the top of the order, I throw up in my mouth a little bit.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-20-2005, 11:01 PM
It sure didn't hurt Felo's chances of making the NL All-Star team by hitting his 12th HR off a 9-game winner in front of the NL manager. :thumbup:

traderumor
06-20-2005, 11:01 PM
http://forums.stltoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=264189&sid=771b0a7fe2d1d6a4241e65a50deb8e9d

Some confirmation that it isn't just us about how slobbery Grande and Welsh are toward the Cards.

KronoRed
06-20-2005, 11:03 PM
Oh good grief..card fans going giddy with love :rant:

Marc D
06-20-2005, 11:03 PM
74 mph junk tends not to leave a lasting impression anyway.

No it certainly does not. Thinking of a Reds pitcher going head hunting brings to mind two questions; A) could they actually hit the guy and B) would it even raise a welt?

Most likely scenario is the beanball turns into a 450ft homer.

Kc61
06-20-2005, 11:03 PM
And in the world of competitive baseball, Chris Booker strikes out 3 to get the save for Louisville, 3-2. Too bad Reds can't use him.

flyer85
06-20-2005, 11:06 PM
And in the world of competitive baseball, Chris Booker strikes out 3 to get the save for Louisville, 3-2. Too bad Reds can't use him.I was going to make this post.

in 32IP he has given up 21hits with 42Ks and 17BBs. That walk rate is high but he misses a lot of bats. You would think he would at least get a shot.

traderumor
06-20-2005, 11:08 PM
And in the world of competitive baseball, Chris Booker strikes out 3 to get the save for Louisville, 3-2. Too bad Reds can't use him.Hey, our major league roster is loaded. Tough to break in on this staff. ;)

Matt700wlw
06-20-2005, 11:08 PM
I was going to make this post.

in 32IP he has given up 21hits with 42Ks and 17BBs. That walk rate is high but he misses a lot of bats. You would think he would at least get a shot.

Missing bats is not pitching to contact :p:

LoganBuck
06-20-2005, 11:26 PM
You know Matt, taped to the back of Binder #47 is the instructional video titled: "Tom Emanski's How to pitch like Cory Lidle."

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2005, 01:48 AM
I was able to catch video of the Lopez homerun. I too noticed that Carpenter was jawing at Felipe as he rounded third. Did anyone ever figure out what he was spouting off about?

Lopez didn't show him up or anything. He couldn't have possibly been upset that Lopez swung for the fences in that situation.

Video of the Lopez homerun (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mediacenter/index.jsp?c_id=cin) can be found by clicking on the top plays link.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2005, 01:59 AM
Well... Marc Lancaster has a quote from Felipe regarding Carpenter.


Along those lines, I asked Felipe about the exchange with Carpenter and he gave us a great quote ("I stopped to hear what he was saying to me, but he never looked back, so I guess it must have not been that important")

http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/spring/

By the way Marc, I love reading your blog. Especially your Day in the Life posts! :thumbup:

ochre
06-21-2005, 02:25 AM
He was probably thanking him for hitting the solo home run. They are rally killers you know.

Cedric
06-21-2005, 02:34 AM
Coward. Felipe would go loco on his ass. lol

WVRedsFan
06-21-2005, 03:00 AM
http://forums.stltoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=264189&sid=771b0a7fe2d1d6a4241e65a50deb8e9d

Some confirmation that it isn't just us about how slobbery Grande and Welsh are toward the Cards.

How sad. And the PR people don't have a clue. We are truly rudderless.

CTA513
06-21-2005, 04:13 AM
I dont see how Carpenter could be mad at Lopez. Right after he hit the ball he took off running and ran all the way around the bases except when he heard Carpenter saying something when he was getting near homeplate.

I just hope the Cardinals arent stupid enough to hit Lopez tomorrow because of that.

KronoRed
06-21-2005, 11:51 AM
I just hope the Cardinals arent stupid enough to hit Lopez tomorrow because of that.

If they are the entire team would deserve a suspension

"How dare he hit a home run" :laugh:

flyer85
06-21-2005, 11:54 AM
I dont see how Carpenter could be mad at Lopez. Right after he hit the ball he took off running and ran all the way around the bases except when he heard Carpenter saying something when he was getting near homeplate.

I just hope the Cardinals arent stupid enough to hit Lopez tomorrow because of that.hopefully they will. A little bean ball war and a brawl could make it more interesting. :D

Tony Cloninger
06-21-2005, 12:49 PM
You know what ticks me off even more.....was Welsh saying..."Now what is Lopez saying to Carpentar? Why is he jawing with him?"

This guy and GG have their heads up STL colon that they cannot even objectively see that it was CC who was doing the yelling.