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redsfan30
06-22-2005, 12:48 PM
D. Eckstein ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298
J. Edmonds cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .285
A. Pujols 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .332
R. Sanders lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
L. Walker rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .253
M. Grudzielanek 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .305
A. Nunez 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
Y. Molina c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .246
M. Mulder p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .154
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
F. Lopez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
R. Aurilia 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .248
S. Casey 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .322
K. Griffey Jr. cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .278
J. Randa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
W. Pena rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .283
A. Dunn lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .247
J. LaRue c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .247
R. Ortiz p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .059
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Matt700wlw
06-22-2005, 12:49 PM
Starting Lineups
No. St. Louis Cincinnati
1 David Eckstein, SS Felipe Lopez, SS
2 Jim Edmonds, CF Rich Aurilia, 2B
3 Albert Pujols, 1B Sean Casey, 1B
4 Reggie Sanders, LF Ken Griffey Jr., CF
5 Larry Walker, RF Joe Randa, 3B
6 Mark Grudzielanek, 2B Wily Mo Pena, RF
7 Abraham O. Nunez, 3B Adam Dunn, LF
8 Yadier Molina, C Jason LaRue, C
9 Mark Mulder, P Ramon Ortiz, P

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 12:49 PM
Please tell me this is a joke.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 12:50 PM
Please tell me this is a joke.Ok, it's a joke.;)

guttle11
06-22-2005, 12:51 PM
same :censored: , different manager

NJReds
06-22-2005, 12:52 PM
Maybe if LaRue has a couple of good games, they can drop Dunn to 8th...that's of course on days that Keisler doesn't start. :rolleyes:

redsfan30
06-22-2005, 12:52 PM
Reds' starters today versus Mark Mulder:

Lopez- .200/.200/.200 in 5 at bats

Aurilia- .095/.174/.143 in 21 at bats

Casey- .417/.417/.833 with a homer and a run batted in in 12 at bats

Griffey- .400/.400/.600 in 5 at bats

Randa- .333/.343/.606 with 2 homers and 6 RBI in 33 at bats

Dunn- .125/.222/.250 with a run batted in in 8 at bats

Pena- .000/.000/.000 in 6 at bats

LaRue- .000/.000/.000 in 4 at bats

Ortiz- Never Faced Mulder

letsgojunior
06-22-2005, 12:52 PM
Utterly ridiculous. Dunn's going to get a lot of pitches to hit with LaRue protecting him.

I'm almost hoping he gets traded this point, to a team who realizes his talent and actually (gasp) recognizes that he's a middle of the order hitter.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 12:52 PM
same :censored: , different manager

It's worse, I don't think Miley ever put Dunn in the 7 spot.

guttle11
06-22-2005, 12:54 PM
can a mod combine and sticky please, Im getting confused :confused:

smith288
06-22-2005, 12:54 PM
wow....just....just wow.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 12:55 PM
I can't believe people were really expecting something different. We all know DanO isn't a numbers guy so why should his manager be one.

OnBaseMachine
06-22-2005, 12:55 PM
Please trade Dunn.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 12:56 PM
Please trade Dunn.

Agreed, this is ridiculous, if we won't use him lets get him to a team that will.

letsgojunior
06-22-2005, 12:56 PM
I just missed the fact that Timmy continues to occupy the 2-hole.

I'd be slightly more ticked if I actually cared about this team right now. Reds management breeds apathy.

westofyou
06-22-2005, 12:57 PM
I can't believe people were really expecting something different.

I can't believe that everyone expects immediate gratification myself.

westofyou
06-22-2005, 12:58 PM
As for the trade Dunn folks.. come on..... you're talking about where he bats as a reason to trade him?

I'd rather he bat 6th for my team than cleanup for another.

Stewie
06-22-2005, 12:58 PM
Please trade Dunn.

.....to the Phillies

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 12:58 PM
.....to the Phillies

No..to anyone but the Phillies :devil:

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 12:58 PM
I can't believe that everyone expects immediate gratification myself.

Well, it's not as though it's a "slow but steady" process to move someone in a batting order.

redsfan30
06-22-2005, 12:59 PM
Cardinals' starters today versus Ramon Ortiz:

Eckstien- Never Faced Ortiz

Edmonds- Never Faced Ortiz

Pujols- Never Faced Ortiz

Sanders- Never Faced Ortiz

Walker- .250/.500/.500 with 2 RBI in 4 at bats

Grudzielanek- .000/.000/.000 in 7 at bats

Nunez- Never Faced Ortiz

Molina- Never Faced Ortiz

Mulder- Never Faced Ortiz

westofyou
06-22-2005, 01:00 PM
Well, it's not as though it's a "slow but steady" process to move someone in a batting order.

Of course in the micro it is a LH going who throws good junk (Reds Kryptonite).. but we won't let that get in the way of hanging a fresh corpse. :mooner:

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:01 PM
Of course in the micro it is a LH going who throws good junk (Reds Kryptonite).. but we won't let that get in the way of hanging a fresh corpse. :mooner:

Dem hangings are good!

(Good point, though)

RedsBaron
06-22-2005, 01:01 PM
:bang: Why not just bat Dunn 9th and by done with it.
I thought the Reds couldn't find a worse manager than Bob Boone, and they came up with Miley. Then I thought that surely they couldn't find a worse manager than Miley...... :bang:

ochre
06-22-2005, 01:02 PM
can a mod combine and sticky please
Its what we do best... :)

westofyou
06-22-2005, 01:02 PM
Dem hangings are good!

I like to bring a Picnic Basket.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:02 PM
Of course in the micro it is a LH going who throws good junk (Reds Kryptonite).. but we won't let that get in the way of hanging a fresh corpse. :mooner:

We do like out hangings around here ;)

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:02 PM
Maybe Narron is going to move Dunn to the 2/3 hole slowly via the long route.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:02 PM
Of course, if Kelly were healthy he'd be playing and Dunn would be on the bench, so Naroon doesn't even have that going for him ;)

westofyou
06-22-2005, 01:03 PM
Maybe Narron is going to move Dunn to the 2/3 hole slowly via the long route.

If he goes around the bend that Ace is only worth 10 points.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:03 PM
Maybe Narron is going to move Dunn to the 2/3 hole slowly via the long route.

The universe is shaped exactly like the earth
If you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

GoReds
06-22-2005, 01:04 PM
What's the over/under on the number of innings Ortiz goes today? I'll put in for 4.1.

ochre
06-22-2005, 01:04 PM
Of course, if Kelly were healthy he'd be playing and Dunn would be on the bench, so Naroon doesn't even have that going for him ;)
no! Its N-a-r-o-o-n. Jeez.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:04 PM
The starting rotation, the pen and the FO bother me a lot more than does the batting order.

pedro
06-22-2005, 01:04 PM
If he goes around the bend that Ace is only worth 10 points.

5 if it's not supportted by a King.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:05 PM
What's the over/under on the number of innings Ortiz goes today? I'll put in for 4.1.

3, if we get lucky.

traderumor
06-22-2005, 01:06 PM
With the premise of giving your best hitter the most abs, why one would want dunn in the middle of the order against a good lefty is beyond me. Plus, Miley was sitting him against lefties, so at least he's in the lineup. Dunn has accomplished a lot in his young career, but hitting lefties is still an area that needs work.

BTW, LaRussa will drop Edmonds down in the order to the 6 hole against lefties, I even think I've seen him bat him 7th at times. And LaRussa's record sucks :cool:

ochre
06-22-2005, 01:07 PM
The starting rotation, the pen and the FO bother me a lot more than does the batting order.
except its a symptom of the general organizational ineptitude that has provided those other, more serious problems.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 01:07 PM
.....to the Phillies

...to the Rockies :thumbup:

ochre
06-22-2005, 01:08 PM
Dunn has accomplished a lot in his young career, but hitting lefties is still an area that needs work.


For the last 3 years, including so far this year, Dunn hits lefties better than Randa.

Crash Davis
06-22-2005, 01:08 PM
Well, it's not as though it's a "slow but steady" process to move someone in a batting order.

Exactly. We're talking common sense here. We're not asking for mountains to be moved.

Puffy
06-22-2005, 01:10 PM
My only problem with Dunn hitting 7th against a lefty (which as WOY pointed out has merit) is Aurilia batting second.

Once again, I realize Aurilia has been hot of late, but never, ever, ever should Aurilia be getting more at bats in a game than Casey, Griffey, Randa (yes, even Randa and yes, this is still Puffy typing), Pena and even Dunn against a lefty.

If Aurilia stays hot then he provides protection in the short term for Dunn. But he should never, ever be batting second. Never.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:12 PM
How long before Aurilia bats lead off and Randa goes to the 2 spot?

letsgojunior
06-22-2005, 01:12 PM
My only problem with Dunn hitting 7th against a lefty (which as WOY pointed out has merit) is Aurilia batting second.

Once again, I realize Aurilia has been hot of late, but never, ever, ever should Aurilia be getting more at bats in a game than Casey, Griffey, Randa (yes, even Randa and yes, this is still Puffy typing), Pena and even Dunn against a lefty.

If Aurilia stays hot then he provides protection in the short term for Dunn. But he should never, ever be batting second. Never.

In my book, the only position Aurilia should occupy is next to the cooler, or by the sunflower seeds.

traderumor
06-22-2005, 01:13 PM
For the last 3 years, including so far this year, Dunn hits lefties better than Randa.Not according to mlb.com for this year :confused:
Randa .258/.315/.424
Dunn .162/.278/.397

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:14 PM
Include the last 2 years and you'll see Dunn with better numbers

ochre
06-22-2005, 01:14 PM
Not according to mlb.com for this year :confused:
Randa .258/.315/.424
Dunn .162/.278/.397
big picture, bigger sample size. 450+ abs over the last 3 years including his poor performance so far (small sample size) this year.

OnBaseMachine
06-22-2005, 01:15 PM
Yeah...I guess I should be glad Dunn is even in the lineup. Miley most likely would have benched him. But Narron's first two lineups have did nothing to lead me to believe that Dunn will bat any higher than 5th.

westofyou
06-22-2005, 01:15 PM
In my book, the only position Aurilia should occupy is next to the cooler, or by the sunflower seeds.

Yep, but Freel has a bum toe and RA has always hit LH's.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:16 PM
Yeah...I guess I should be glad Dunn is even in the lineup. Miley most likely would have benched him. But Narron's first two lineups have did nothing to lead me to believe that Dunn will bat any higher than 5th.

Wait till Kelly/Freel are healthy or Romano is here..Dunn will again be benched vs lefties

I think Dan O has always been the lineup maker ;)

westofyou
06-22-2005, 01:16 PM
Yeah...I guess I should be glad Dunn is even in the lineup. Miley most likely would have benched him. But Narron's first two lineups have did nothing to lead me to believe that Dunn will bat any higher than 5th.

If the Reds win and he bats fifth I could care less myself.

SteelSD
06-22-2005, 01:18 PM
I can't believe that everyone expects immediate gratification myself.

Human nature. Miley posted bad lineups daily and was shown the door so the expectation was that some improvement in the thought process used to write out the lineup card would be shown.

Me? I've seen Narron's lineups so I really didn't expect anything to change. According to him, he's "old school" (which, IMHO, is an insult to "old school"). If you don't strike out a bunch and he thinks you can "handle" the bat, you'll hit at the top of the lineup. If you do, Narron will bury you. That's always been his M.O. and I sure as heck don't think that's ever going to change.

This Reds organization is motivation and obfuscation instead of innovation so it's normal to see a new permutation of intense fan frustration and hateration in this baseballery.

My personal thanks to Mary J. Blige for creating what is possibly the dumbest "word" in the current English speaking world. Much appreciated.

traderumor
06-22-2005, 01:19 PM
big picture, bigger sample size. 450+ abs over the last 3 years including his poor performance so far (small sample size) this year.I understand the 3 year thing, which is an OPS advantage to Dunn of .846 to .820, which is basically a wash, but you said including this year, which simply isn't the case. Small sample size? Ok, but I can see why the one writing out the lineup has less confidence in Dunn. Against righties, I agree he should be higher in the order, preferably third for me. But hitting him low today, considering everything, is a reasonable conclusion, IMO

top6
06-22-2005, 01:21 PM
This is absolutely unacceptable. I have never been more frustrated with any sports team than I am with watching the Reds waste Adam Dunn. I honestly find myself rooting against them, in a perverse way, because I want this team to lose as much as possible so that the front office will either be fired or quit out of embarassment.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:25 PM
Narron actually mentioned possibly moving Dunn to the 2 spot.

Narron also plans to keep a "hot" Aurilia near the top of the order. SOunded like RA is going to be in the lineup for awhile.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 01:25 PM
Jerry Narron just said on the pre-game show that he is trying to break up the lefties in the lineup and is even considering Adam Dunn in the No. 2 spot. He also said that he has confidence in RA, who will remain at the top of the order.

RedsBaron
06-22-2005, 01:25 PM
This is absolutely unacceptable. I have never been more frustrated with any sports team than I am with watching the Reds waste Adam Dunn. I honestly find myself rooting against them, in a perverse way, because I want this team to lose as much as possible so that the front office will either be fired or quite out of embarassment.
They will have to be fired. The people in the front office evidently cannot be embarassed.

ochre
06-22-2005, 01:25 PM
I understand the 3 year thing, which is an OPS advantage to Dunn of .846 to .820, which is basically a wash, but you said including this year, which simply isn't the case. Small sample size? Ok, but I can see why the one writing out the lineup has less confidence in Dunn. Against righties, I agree he should be higher in the order, preferably third for me. But hitting him low today, considering everything, is a reasonable conclusion, IMO
reasonable based on basically a month or so of slumping against lefties? That "wash" OPS difference includes the slumping period from this year. Its indicative of a flawed mindset that views strike outs as a special kind of out. Those who make outs the way "we" prefer (non-ks) can slump and not have their position in the order in jeopardy (Sean Casey through the years), while those that don't fit "the book" are jerked around like rag dolls in spite of evidence that they historically have been as good, or better.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:28 PM
maybe the question of the day for Milton/Ortiz should be "is their ERA going to go up or down"

Puffy
06-22-2005, 01:29 PM
Narron also plans to keep a "hot" Aurilia near the top of the order. Sounded like RA is going to be in the lineup for awhile.

:bang:

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:30 PM
Jerry Narron just said on the pre-game show that he is trying to break up the lefties in the lineup and is even considering Adam Dunn in the No. 2 spot. He also said that he has confidence in RA, who will remain at the top of the order.
Like I said..leadoff Aurilia here we come

savafan
06-22-2005, 01:31 PM
DanO wants to keep Dunn low in the order to keep his stats down so that he won't cost as much in arbitration.

I just love conspiracy theories!

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:31 PM
RA is one who was happy Miley was canned. He obviously had to know something about how he might be used by Narron to be happy about the change.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:32 PM
RA is one who was happy Miley was canned. He obviously had to know something about how he might be used by Narron to be happy about the change.

I don't think it matters who the manager is, he is Dan O's guy, and he's going to play no matter what..and I think he knows it.

TRF
06-22-2005, 01:34 PM
I lo... RICH AURILIA'S HOT BAT AND STEADY INFLUENCE ON THE RED'S CLUBHOUSE BODES WELL FOR THE FUTURE. I SEE HIM FINISHING HIS CAREER AS A RED AND COACHING HERE ONCE HIS PLAYING DAYS ARE DONE!

...athe the Richa Aurilia signing.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:35 PM
I don't think it matters who the manager is, he is Dan O's guy, and he's going to play no matter what..and I think he knows it.and Narron is obviously a "DanO guy" as well so I would expect them to be on the same page.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:37 PM
I lo... RICH AURILIA'S HOT BAT AND STEADY INFLUENCE ON THE RED'S CLUBHOUSE BODES WELL FOR THE FUTURE. I SEE HIM FINISHING HIS CAREER AS A RED AND COACHING HERE ONCE HIS PLAYING DAYS ARE DONE!

...athe the Richa Aurilia signing.

Who said that?

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:37 PM
BTW, the news on Kelly did not sound good. Narron said his knee "locked up". Sounds like a cartilage problem.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:37 PM
Eckstein lines out.

Edmonds up, making his return to the lineup.

I'm guessing he's good for 2 HR's today, injured.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:38 PM
Who said that?

Please tell me it wasn't someone in charge :help:

TRF
06-22-2005, 01:38 PM
Who said that?

said what? shhhh. DanO can hear you!

traderumor
06-22-2005, 01:38 PM
reasonable based on basically a month or so of slumping against lefties? That "wash" OPS difference includes the slumping period from this year. Its indicative of a flawed mindset that views strike outs as a special kind of out. Those who make outs the way "we" prefer (non-ks) can slump and not have their position in the order in jeopardy (Sean Casey through the years), while those that don't fit "the book" are jerked around like rag dolls in spite of evidence that they historically have been as good, or better.I always have had a flawed mindset, thanks for setting me straight.

Hooligan
06-22-2005, 01:38 PM
Edmonds Ks.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:39 PM
Edmonds K's.

Poo-Holes to bat.

Hooligan
06-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Nice one Red Leader! I'll never look at him the same.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Ortiz ahead in the count 1-2

Patrick Bateman
06-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Good start for Ortiz. 3 up 3 down. :dancingco

And he struck out Pujols.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Flyout, and a pair of Strikeouts to set the Cards down in order at the top of the first.

Hooligan
06-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Another K for Ortiz.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Not a bad little start for Ortiz.

traderumor
06-22-2005, 01:41 PM
Ortiz is 1/9 of the way to a perfect game

At this rate he will have 18 Ks :D

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:41 PM
The Happy Barber rides again! Or something.

BuckU
06-22-2005, 01:42 PM
whos this fella who pitched the 1-2-3 inning?

guttle11
06-22-2005, 01:42 PM
BTW, the news on Kelly did not sound good. Narron said his knee "locked up". Sounds like a cartilage problem.



when I first saw it I thought torn ACL. See it all the time in Football, and Basketball, make a cut or a fast first move and POP its torn.

I hope Im wrong but...

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:42 PM
If I got front row seats in the outfield in this series I was going to make a sign that said

"POO HOLES" :mooner:

(yes, I was going to draw a picture of mooner guy.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:42 PM
Ortiz for Cy Young

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:44 PM
Lopez shows bunt but pulls the bat back (takes a K) in this AB... he ends up striking out.

Hooligan
06-22-2005, 01:44 PM
What do people think of Ron Oester as a manger? I like his fire but I worry about hiring another company man.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:44 PM
Board acting up for anyone else?

guttle11
06-22-2005, 01:45 PM
If I got front row seats in the outfield in this series I was going to make a sign that said

"POO HOLES" :mooner:

(yes, I was going to draw a picture of mooner guy.

I think that every time I hear his name. :laugh: :mooner:

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:45 PM
What do people think of ROn Oester as a manger? I like his fire but I worry about hiring another company man.
He's old school, I'm tired of old school ;)

ochre
06-22-2005, 01:45 PM
I always have had a flawed mindset, thanks for setting me straight.
Nice selective reading again.

The mindset I was referring to was the mindset that removes him from the lineup, or drops him lower than others that have historically not been as good as him.

traderumor
06-22-2005, 01:45 PM
Play Aurilia more. Shine him up all pretty. Don't hold on to him, trade him for a prospect. That's the only way I can be happy about Aurilia's time here.

Puffy
06-22-2005, 01:45 PM
What do people think of ROn Oester as a manger? I like his fire but I worry about hiring another company man.

Think Lary Bowa or Bobby Valentine.

In other words, no thanks.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 01:45 PM
Good at-bat for RA...makes Mulder throw a bunch of pitches before singling to right

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:46 PM
What do people think of ROn Oester as a manger? I like his fire but I worry about hiring another company man.

I do not like Ron Oester as the manager. That is my opinion.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:46 PM
"the hits just keep on coming for Rich Aurilia"

guttle11
06-22-2005, 01:46 PM
Board acting up for anyone else?

yes, a few times in the last 10 minutes... BOSS!!

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:46 PM
I need to get an Aurilia jersey, the way he's been playing. *sigh*

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:47 PM
Well Z I hope the Aurilia jersey is for another team soon :D

SteelSD
06-22-2005, 01:47 PM
Aurilia singles. He's gonna get that OBP up to .300 yet! Yessiree! You just wait and see!

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:47 PM
I need to get an Aurilia jersey, the way he's been playing. *sigh*

You might want to wait. I'm hoping they go on clearance around Aug. 1st.

smith288
06-22-2005, 01:47 PM
We might as well retire Aurilia's jersey... he is going to be a fixture for years to come... *cough*

traderumor
06-22-2005, 01:47 PM
Nice selective reading again.

The mindset I was referring to was the mindset that removes him from the lineup, or drops him lower than others that have historically not been as good as him.You can argue with someone else, you made your point, I made mine, we disagree. Let it go.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:47 PM
Casey, double play situation...

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:48 PM
Casey groundball to left for a hit, Aurilia to 2B.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:49 PM
Casey singles, Aurilllllelia to 2nd.

Johnny Footstool
06-22-2005, 01:49 PM
Who do the Cardinals have in the #2 spot? Jim Edmonds.

At least LaRussa is smart enough to recognize the importance of getting more ABs for your best hitters.

This whole "Dunn batting 7th" thing really has me seething.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 01:49 PM
This would be a nice time for a Jr. bomb

smith288
06-22-2005, 01:49 PM
If Casey hit it further right, it would have been a dp. Freakin Casey...

ochre
06-22-2005, 01:49 PM
I made mine, we disagree.
You are right. I definitely disagree.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:50 PM
We might as well retire Aurilia's jersey... he is going to be a fixture for years to come... *cough*
I thought he was older, only 33..he's definitely getting that contract extension

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:50 PM
Junior Ks on a changeup insude.

smith288
06-22-2005, 01:51 PM
Junior Ks on a changeup insude. I, for one, would prefer Griffey weakly hitting that ball to second rather than striking out like a chump... ;)

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 01:51 PM
Randa with an RBI single.

Hopefully the Dodgers are watching

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:51 PM
Randa drives Aurilia in on a line drive - 1-0 Reds.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:51 PM
I thought he was older, only 33..he's definitely getting that contract extensionyou may not want to joke about that

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:52 PM
you may not want to joke about that
I'm not joking, I really think it's going to happen.

OldRightHander
06-22-2005, 01:52 PM
How about that Puffy! Your man with the rbi. :D

Hooligan
06-22-2005, 01:52 PM
Single for Randa. Aurilia scores.

guttle11
06-22-2005, 01:52 PM
I thought he was older, only 33..he's definitely getting that contract extension

For some reason the words 3 years 8 million wont leave my head :runaway:

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:52 PM
support Uncle Carl - it's UDF Malt Month

flyer85
06-22-2005, 01:53 PM
I'm not joking, I really think it's going to happen.I would agree

NJReds
06-22-2005, 01:53 PM
Randa drives Aurilia in on a line drive - 1-0 Reds.

That's something we may be reading for years to come...time to sign them long term... :evil:

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:53 PM
Just think, if Dunn was hitting 6th and WillllllllieMO was 7th, Dunn would probably walk to load the bases and Peeena would be hitting vs a LHP with the bases loaded

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:53 PM
WMP Ks on a changeup away. End of inning.

westofyou
06-22-2005, 01:54 PM
What do people think of Ron Oester as a manger? I like his fire but I worry about hiring another company man.

That bus already stopped and Ron missed it... he too was busy beating the newspaper machine up because he lost some change in it.

SteelSD
06-22-2005, 01:54 PM
I swear that the Reds hitters get together before the game and plan how to get Adam Dunn to lead off an Inning.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 01:54 PM
If the Barber sets down the side in order again this inning, I'm going to build a statue of Vern Ruhle in my basement. Out of applesauce and mashed potatoes.

westofyou
06-22-2005, 01:55 PM
The Cardinals radio is playing a commercial to join the DEA.

The DEA is running open recruitment... and gosh darnit.. I'm too old to apply.

westofyou
06-22-2005, 01:56 PM
I swear that the Reds hitters get together before the game and plan how to get Adam Dunn to lead off an Inning.

Maybe the last guy who makes the out gets a dollar?

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Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:56 PM
I swear that the Reds hitters get together before the game and plan how to get Adam Dunn to lead off an Inning.

I'd buy that.

OnBaseMachine
06-22-2005, 01:56 PM
I swear that the Reds hitters get together before the game and plan how to get Adam Dunn to lead off an Inning.

I was thinking the same thing!

It seemed like when Dunn batted 5th, Griffey would make the last out... Dunn was moved to 6th...Randa makes the last out. Now, Dunn moves to 7th...and Pena makes the last out.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:56 PM
I swear that the Reds hitters get together before the game and plan how to get Adam Dunn to lead off an Inning.

"Well all he does is K or walk"

;)

I'm so joining the DEA now :D

Chip R
06-22-2005, 01:56 PM
If the Barber sets down the side in order again this inning, I'm going to build a statue of Vern Ruhle in my basement. Out of applesauce and mashed potatoes.Mmmmmm, applesauce and mashed potatoes.

Puffy
06-22-2005, 01:57 PM
I'd buy that.

You're too cheap to buy anything.

:mooner:

Puffy
06-22-2005, 01:58 PM
By the way, Randa might have gotten the RBI single, but Encarnacion would have hit a 6-run homer.

He rawks.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 01:58 PM
EE would also throw a no hitter..from 3rd.

Roy Tucker
06-22-2005, 01:58 PM
no! Its N-a-r-o-o-n. Jeez.
ochre, I believe you need to (tm) or (c) that puppy given this board has the popularity volatility of the Hong Kong stock market. It will get exercised.

I just glad Dunn is in the lineup (even though I do think it's because Kelly is gimped up).

I like woy's "Red Kryptonite" tag on LH pitching.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 01:59 PM
You're too cheap to buy anything.

:mooner:

Honey??? Is that you????..........

Patrick Bateman
06-22-2005, 01:59 PM
Stop walking people Ortiz!!!!

Hooligan
06-22-2005, 01:59 PM
What has happened to Ortiz from the first to the second?

Buckeye33
06-22-2005, 01:59 PM
Ortiz Ks two in the 1st inning, so he must feel compelled to keep his WHIP above 15 by walking the 1st two in the 2nd inning.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 02:00 PM
Honey??? Is that you????..........

Not that there's anything wrong with that

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:00 PM
I just glad Dunn is in the lineup (even though I do think it's because Kelly is gimped up). narron mentioned that if not for the knee problem, Kelly might have started today.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:00 PM
Mmmmmm, applesauce and mashed potatoes.

Yeah, looks like I'll be able to save them for the co-ed wrestling contest.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:00 PM
He's a relief pitcher. He can occasionally give you 1-2 good innings, not 5-6 in a row.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 02:00 PM
narron mentioned that if not for the knee problem, Kelly might have started today.

Hey I said that first..back on page 2 ;)

SteelSD
06-22-2005, 02:01 PM
Conversation overheard during warmups:

Sean Casey: Psst...Wily Mo..."

Wily Mo Pena: "Yes? What you want, fat man?"

Sean Casey: "Ok...here's the deal today because you're hitting in front of Dunn. Every time you make the third out of an inning, the guys and I will buy you a chicken."

Wily Mo Pena: "Hmn. Dead chicken or alive chicken?"

Sean Casey: "Alive of course. Not like last time."

Wily Mo Pena: "Ok. That good deal!"

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:01 PM
Triple-Word-Score lines out to WMP.

pedro
06-22-2005, 02:01 PM
The Cardinals radio is playing a commercial to join the DEA.

The DEA is running open recruitment... and gosh darnit.. I'm too old to apply.


That's too bad becuase you're good enough, you're smart smart enough, and dog-gone it, people like you.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:02 PM
What the hell is Marty talking about. Saying that he split the LH hitters up today. I guess splitting LH hitters against means multiple RH hitters between them. The stupidity is monumental

Blimpie
06-22-2005, 02:02 PM
Marty needs an ironing board upside his cranium....

Roy Tucker
06-22-2005, 02:02 PM
If I got front row seats in the outfield in this series I was going to make a sign that said

"POO HOLES" :mooner:

(yes, I was going to draw a picture of mooner guy.
My brother and I were like Bevis and Butthead when the old Astro's catcher Luis Pujols came to bat....

"heh-heh-heh, he said poo holes, heh-heh-heh"

Matt700wlw
06-22-2005, 02:03 PM
What the hell is Marty talking about. Saying that he split the LH hitters up today. I guess splitting LH hitters against means multiple RH hitters between them. The stupidity is monumental

They're split up, aren't they ;)

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:03 PM
Nunez grounds into the DP to end the inning.

Blimpie
06-22-2005, 02:03 PM
Triple-Word-Score lines out to WMP. :bowrofl:

Hooligan
06-22-2005, 02:03 PM
What did Marty say?

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 02:03 PM
Marty needs an ironing board upside his cranium....

If Marty were the manager Dunn Pena Lopez and JR would be benched.

Puffy
06-22-2005, 02:04 PM
What the hell is Marty talking about. Saying that he split the LH hitters up today. I guess splitting LH hitters against means multiple RH hitters between them. The stupidity is monumental

Hmmmmm, Casey - lefty; Griffey - lefty.

Yup, thems split up good.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:04 PM
They're split up, aren't they ;)I guess if Casey and Jr don't count

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:04 PM
8 more hitless innings and Ortiz may move down to the 3rd most hittable pitcher in the game. Too bad there's only 7 innings left.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:06 PM
One of the purposes to break up hitters according to their side is also to keep a pitcher from getting in a groove pitching to batters from one side of the plate.

OldRightHander
06-22-2005, 02:06 PM
Just what you want out of the 7 hole, and with nobody on base at that.

Hooligan
06-22-2005, 02:06 PM
Dunn going long!!!!

Matt700wlw
06-22-2005, 02:06 PM
There goes Dunn hitting a lefty again....

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:06 PM
Man, I love it when Dunn makes Marty look stupid.

Reds 2-0.

Puffy
06-22-2005, 02:06 PM
Ortiz for closer 2005!!!

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:06 PM
Dunn Hr's out of the 7th spot leading off the inning. Keep him there.

westofyou
06-22-2005, 02:07 PM
There goes Dunn hitting a lefty again....

those are the type of at bats that will get him moved up eh?

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:07 PM
LaRue doubles off the outfield wall.

I nabbed you for my .sig, RC. Hope you don't mind.

SteelSD
06-22-2005, 02:07 PM
LOL!

Waiting for someone to show up to tell us that all Dunn does is hit solo Home Runs.

Matt700wlw
06-22-2005, 02:07 PM
those are the type of at bats that will get him moved up eh?

One would think...

OldRightHander
06-22-2005, 02:08 PM
those are the type of at bats that will get him moved up eh?

Probably not. It wasn't a sac fly.

Johnny Footstool
06-22-2005, 02:08 PM
Doesn't Dunn know that lefties can't hit LHP?

Puffy
06-22-2005, 02:08 PM
Yup, good thing Dunn is hitting seventh - wouldn't want him getting that 5th at bat in the game that those ahead of him will probably get.

Roy Tucker
06-22-2005, 02:08 PM
Kenny Kelly would have hit a 6-run homer and cured cancer on his way back to the dugout.

KronoRed
06-22-2005, 02:08 PM
If only Dunn had done that with runners on ;)

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:08 PM
makes Marty look stupid.thats not hard to do.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
In my work fantasy league I have Dunn and the team I'm playing has Rob Mackowiak and Jason Bay.

All 3 Hr'd in their first at bat today.

Don't see that often.

CTA513
06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
Kenny Kelly would have hit a 6-run homer and cured cancer on his way back to the dugout.

:laugh:

Tommyjohn25
06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
Jeez, all this Dunn guy does is hit solo home runs! :evil: ;)

red-in-la
06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
Anybody else getting MLB.TV? I just get a black screen even though the player thinks it is playing....no picture, no sound.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
The Barber fouls off two bunts. That's swank. I'm just gonna go ahead and say he makes an out here. He's bunting with 2 strikes. Sweet. My head hurts.

Cedric
06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
Are you guys happy the Reds are winning? Or just like the oppurtunity to make potshots about everything and anything?

OldRightHander
06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
Kenny Kelly would have hit a 6-run homer and cured cancer on his way back to the dugout.

And probably gotten a stolen base and a sac fly on the same play.

Super_Barry11
06-22-2005, 02:10 PM
Anybody else getting MLB.TV? I just get a black screen even though the player thinks it is playing....no picture, no sound.

It's working for me. :confused:

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:10 PM
Ortiz for closer 2005!!!They are probably counting on him as a starter for 2006.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:10 PM
I was right. Ortiz Ks.

Johnny Footstool
06-22-2005, 02:11 PM
Man, this offense has a lot of holes. I wish they would concentrate on hitting behind the runner, stealing bases, and hitting sac flies.

traderumor
06-22-2005, 02:11 PM
Are you guys happy the Reds are winning? Or just like the oppurtunity to make potshots about everything and anything? :cool:

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:11 PM
Are you guys happy the Reds are winning? Or just like the oppurtunity to make potshots about everything and anything?

Yes. :cool:

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:11 PM
Are you guys happy the Reds are winning? Or just like the oppurtunity to make potshots about everything and anything?Does it matter? If I needed winning to get enjoyment from the Reds I would just kill myself now.

Johnny Footstool
06-22-2005, 02:11 PM
BTW - 3 "bonus" pitches for Ortiz after being down 0-2.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:12 PM
LaRue tries for 3rd on a grounder to the shortstop. He doesn't make it.

OldRightHander
06-22-2005, 02:12 PM
Larue with his head up his :mooner:

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:12 PM
BTW - 3 "bonus" pitches for Ortiz after being down 0-2.

Too bad he couldn't make contact on the moneyball. ;)

Super_Barry11
06-22-2005, 02:12 PM
Whoa, Jason. Not cool.

Roy Tucker
06-22-2005, 02:13 PM
Are you guys happy the Reds are winning? Or just like the oppurtunity to make potshots about everything and anything?
No. It's like the Dysfunctional Family Christmas album off SNL. We're not happy unless we're unhappy.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:13 PM
If its hit in front of you, stay. If its hit behind you, go. I taught that to my son's coach pitch team a couple weeks ago.

CTA513
06-22-2005, 02:13 PM
lol Lopez goes from 1st to 3rd on an error, and Aurilia singles.

3-0 Reds.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:13 PM
RA strikes again. He may be back at SS with a shiny new LTC real soon.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:14 PM
Lopez gets on, 1st to 3rd on a (pickoff attempt) throwing error , Aurilia drives him in with a base hit to center.

CTA513
06-22-2005, 02:14 PM
RA strikes again. He may be back at SS with a shiny new LTC real soon.

Nope, hes stuck at 2B or 3rd.

TylerScottDavis
06-22-2005, 02:14 PM
gameday must be screwed up, it's saying Lopez was out at 3rd

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:14 PM
Nope, hes stuck at 2B or 3rd.he's just a Lopez slump away.

SteelSD
06-22-2005, 02:15 PM
Man was I confused for a moment.

Seems the sportsline gamecast crew picked a bad time for a potty break.

Roy Tucker
06-22-2005, 02:16 PM
RA strikes again. He may be back at SS with a shiny new LTC real soon.
I'm tellin' you guys... My poll will be my vindication. Or my incineration, I can never keep that straight.

RedsBaron
06-22-2005, 02:16 PM
If only Dunn had done that with runners on ;)
Dunn is selfish. ;)

CTA513
06-22-2005, 02:16 PM
Casey singles.

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:16 PM
Grounder up the middle for Casey.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:17 PM
Don't count on seeing Freel at 2nd anytime soon.

traderumor
06-22-2005, 02:17 PM
I'm glad to see Rich Aurilia producing to help the Cincinnati Reds win ballgames. I didn't like hating seeing him in the lineup because he was playing so terrible.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 02:17 PM
RA is on fire. What do you think the chances are that a contender may want to pick him up as a solid bat off the bench?

SteelSD
06-22-2005, 02:17 PM
Casey singles.

I tell you. It's a plan. They're timing their outs just perfectly to get Dunn to lead off again next inning.

It'd be much easier with the DH in play, but they're doing what they can.;)

CTA513
06-22-2005, 02:17 PM
Griffey doubles.

5-0 Reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:17 PM
Junior doubles off the wall and it's 5-0 Reds.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Zombie, should I be flattered?

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Score 5 more runs and we have a decent chance of winning this game. :thumbup:

(I'm sorry, I can't help myself)

lollipopcurve
06-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Aurilia is stinging the ball like a sea urchin.

Matt700wlw
06-22-2005, 02:18 PM
The Jerry Narron Reds looking much better!

pedro
06-22-2005, 02:19 PM
RA is on fire. What do you think the chances are that a contender may want to pick him up as a solid bat off the bench?

A lot better than they were a month ago.

I would never have believed it if you told me.

Puffy
06-22-2005, 02:19 PM
This Junior cat can play.

Just sayin'

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:19 PM
RA is on fire. What do you think the chances are that a contender may want to pick him up as a solid bat off the bench?I see/hear no evidence the Reds are in a selling mode or plan on going into one anytime soon.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:19 PM
Don't count on seeing Freel at 2nd anytime soon.

Or Kearns being called up, because Freel will take those OF at-bats Kearns was to get.

Thanks, Mr. Aureelia.

Big Klu
06-22-2005, 02:19 PM
Question: Is Kenny Kelly still on the roster, or was he put on the DL? If so, who (if anyone) was called up?

smith288
06-22-2005, 02:19 PM
Who wants to wager the inning that Ortiz gives this lead back?

zombie-a-go-go
06-22-2005, 02:19 PM
Zombie, should I be flattered?

Smile or cry, it's all the same to me. :D

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 02:19 PM
Score 5 more runs and we have a decent chance of winning this game. :thumbup:

(I'm sorry, I can't help myself)

Better than a decent chance...Danny Graves is in NY :thumbup:

CTA513
06-22-2005, 02:20 PM
Randa walks.

pedro
06-22-2005, 02:20 PM
The Jerry Narron Reds looking much better!

yeah, well the Reds also started the season 3-0.

However, if this keeps up we may have to rename them the "Narron Ham Red Fighters"

Reds Fanatic
06-22-2005, 02:20 PM
Question: Is Kenny Kelly still on the roster, or was he put on the DL? If so, who (if anyone) was called up? He is still on the active roster.

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:20 PM
Pena triple play (so Dunn leads off next innning)???

Johnny Footstool
06-22-2005, 02:20 PM
No matter how you look at it, this offense works and works well.

Now, if they could just do something about those fellas who throw the ball...

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:21 PM
Smile or cry, it's all the same to me. :DThe quote was for Marty but it does seem to fit the entire organization as well.

OnBaseMachine
06-22-2005, 02:21 PM
This is not the same Mark Mulder that pitched for Oakland pre-All-Star break 2004.

traderumor
06-22-2005, 02:21 PM
This is the second early game we have lit up Mulder. Isn't there a tendency for some guys to struggle in day games due to being easier to pick up the spin in natural light?

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:22 PM
This is not the same Mark Mulder that pitched for Oakland pre-All-Star break 2004.looks more like the post 2004
all-star break Mulder

traderumor
06-22-2005, 02:22 PM
No matter how you look at it, this offense works and works well.

Now, if they could just do something about those fellas who throw the ball...And the defense that the guys making up the offense plays

Puffy
06-22-2005, 02:22 PM
Pena triple play (so Dunn leads off next innning)???

Rigggggghhhhht - there are already two outs there Sparky.....

Johnny Footstool
06-22-2005, 02:22 PM
This is not the same Mark Mulder that pitched for Oakland pre-All-Star break 2004.

He's had his share of ups and downs this season. For a couple of weeks there, he was unhittable. Now he's back in the dumpster (good timing on that, though).

OldRightHander
06-22-2005, 02:22 PM
No news on Kelly, according to Marty.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-22-2005, 02:22 PM
yeah, well the Reds also started the season 3-0.

However, if this keeps up we may have to rename them the "Narron Ham Red Fighters"

Kansas City went on an 11-4 run after Buddy Bell was hired. That could happen here, despite trips to Cleveland and St. Louis where the Reds rarely win.

flyer85
06-22-2005, 02:23 PM
it must be a conspiracy I say!! :wave:

RosieRed
06-22-2005, 02:23 PM
The Jerry Narron Reds looking much better!

Notice all the small ball in effect! Home runs, doubles ... Narron does know what he's talking about!

(Sorry. Couldn't resist.)

Buckeye33
06-22-2005, 02:23 PM
Pena is suppose to SMASH lefties!

Oh well, I'll take a 5-0 lead :)

Red Leader
06-22-2005, 02:23 PM
Rigggggghhhhht - there are already two outs there Sparky.....

Nevermind. Stupid Yahoo. I hate when you're right.

Dunn to lead off the third.

Johnny Footstool
06-22-2005, 02:23 PM
And the defense that the guys making up the offense plays

One thing at a time, please! ;)

red-in-la
06-22-2005, 02:24 PM
Could you guys keep the play-by-play going? I am flying blind here and trying to get some work done at the same time.

SteelSD
06-22-2005, 02:24 PM
And Pena earns his 2nd live chicken of the day.

But frankly, I'll take Dunn leading off the 2nd and 3rd Innings any day of the week. Would love to see him lead off Inning 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 as well.

Um...hopefully he won't need to lead off Inning nine. Hopefully...