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KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:26 PM
I'd like to see Narron get the job if he can lead us through the rest of the season soundly. None of those guys really impress me other than Rose, and I don't see that one happening for some odd reason.

shredda2000
06-22-2005, 03:27 PM
Through 6

Bengals 7
Rams 3

Up by 2 safeties, LUV IT :thumbup:

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 03:27 PM
If we've learned anything today, it's that the 1970 Reds made for crappy managers!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 03:28 PM
Nunez singles to left to lead off the 7th.

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:28 PM
543!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 03:29 PM
Randa backhands the grounder, 5-4-3 DP. Nice work.

MasonBuzz3
06-22-2005, 03:30 PM
that DP was a beauty, turns a would be double into a double play

cumberlandreds
06-22-2005, 03:30 PM
If we've learned anything today, it's that the 1970 Reds made for crappy managers!

Just to take up for Helms and Perez,they didn't get much of a chance. The others I agree.

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 03:31 PM
So Taguchi PH for the pitcher. He works the count full before flying out to RF to end the inning. Ortiz has thrown 100 pitches on the nose.

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 03:32 PM
We are making plays for our Pitcher today!!! :) Nice DP

LincolnparkRed
06-22-2005, 03:32 PM
who leads of the 7th for the Reds again? I lost track.

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:33 PM
Dunn I think

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 03:34 PM
The evil Ray King is now pitching. Griffey leads off.

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 03:34 PM
Grounder to 2nd, 1 out.

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:34 PM
And i thought wrong

LincolnparkRed
06-22-2005, 03:35 PM
The evil Ray King is now pitching. Griffey leads off.

As long as he doesn't sit on any of our outfielders, he doesn't bother me that much

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 03:35 PM
Randa flies out to right-center.

cincyinco
06-22-2005, 03:38 PM
WMP draws a walk! :eek:

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 03:39 PM
dunn wont see a pitch here....if he does ill be surprised

LincolnparkRed
06-22-2005, 03:39 PM
Can Dunn please get a third homer and 2 more rbi

cincyinco
06-22-2005, 03:40 PM
He's already got 2 off a lefty today.. make it 3!

cumberlandreds
06-22-2005, 03:40 PM
WMP draws a walk! :eek:

That's at least two this week. Unbelievable! :eek:

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:43 PM
The evil Ray King is now pitching. Griffey leads off.

he's a real reds ball buster. literally. :thumbdown

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:44 PM
come on dunn give ray king a kiss of this :mooner:

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:45 PM
did he do it? I thought I heard Fireworks!

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:45 PM
anyone tell me if he hit #3 today?

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:46 PM
anyone?

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:46 PM
no he didnt

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:47 PM
what happened?

LincolnparkRed
06-22-2005, 03:47 PM
Eckstein HBp to lead off the 8th

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:48 PM
oh no

Garrett
06-22-2005, 03:48 PM
WAGNER HIT HIM WITH A PITCH, not the best guy to hit either: Eckstein

LincolnparkRed
06-22-2005, 03:48 PM
Wagner behind 3-0 to Edmonds

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:48 PM
any game updaters here

LincolnparkRed
06-22-2005, 03:48 PM
Walked Edmonds on 4 straight

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:48 PM
what did poo holes do

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:48 PM
boooooooooooooooo

7-4
tieing run at the plate
sanders up

cumberlandreds
06-22-2005, 03:50 PM
Our bullpen at it's horrid best. :yikes:

MasonBuzz3
06-22-2005, 03:50 PM
what did poo holes do
singled up the middle

LincolnparkRed
06-22-2005, 03:50 PM
Hopefully Vern can fix what is wrong with Wagner, definitely not a chance of him closing next year unless he can be somewhat consistent

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:50 PM
did poo hole drive in a run

cumberlandreds
06-22-2005, 03:51 PM
Why aren't we using Coffey? He's been much better than Wagner lately. Wagner has suddenly got Danny Graves disease.

The_jbh
06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
Argh

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
new manager, same old reds

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
we're gonna lose.

MasonBuzz3
06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
uh oh, bases loaded no outs

The_jbh
06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
lets end this inning now... that should have been a DP.

We cant let this one slide away. the bats better wake up

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
Why aren't we using Coffey? He's been much better than Wagner lately. Wagner has suddenly got Danny Graves disease.

my guess is he's gonna be the suprise gameplan closer and they're trying to get the game to him.

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:53 PM
Just get out of this with no more runs!

We still got the lead

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:53 PM
might as well have kept danny around.

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:53 PM
Alright 2 down, 1 more

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:54 PM
Get this guy and you got 8-9-1 comeing up next inning

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:55 PM
Ok! We are still good! Get some more runs!

cincyinco
06-22-2005, 03:55 PM
Top 8TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Pitcher Change: Ryan Wagner replaces Ramon Ortiz, batting 9th.

Top 8TH B:3 S:2 O:0
David Eckstein hit by pitch.

Top 8TH B:4 S:0 O:0
Jim Edmonds walks. David Eckstein to 2nd.

Top 8TH B:0 S:1 O:0
Albert Pujols singles on a ground ball to center fielder Ken GriffeyJr. David Eckstein scores. Jim Edmonds to 2nd.

Top 8TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Pitcher Change: David Weathers replaces Ryan Wagner, batting 6th.

Top 8TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Defensive Substitution: Jacob Cruz replaces right fielder Wily Mo Pena, batting 9th.

Top 8TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Reggie Sanders singles on a soft line drive to left fielder Adam Dunn. Jim Edmonds to 3rd. Albert Pujols to 2nd.

Top 8TH B:0 S:0 O:1
Larry Walker grounds into a force out, second baseman Rich Aurilia to shortstop Felipe Lopez. Jim Edmonds scores. Albert Pujols scores. Reggie Sanders out at 2nd. Larry Walker advances to 1st, on throwing error by shortstop Felipe Lopez.

Top 8TH B:1 S:1 O:2
Mark Grudzielanek flies out to right fielder Jacob Cruz.


Top 8TH B:1 S:2 O:3
Abraham Nunez grounds out sharply to first baseman Sean Casey.

MasonBuzz3
06-22-2005, 03:57 PM
a run or two would be really nice right now, LaRue, Cruz, ad FeLo coming up

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 03:57 PM
I think we are ok.

A few insurance runs here would be nice but i think our PEN can hang on for us.....

LETS GO REDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take this series and lets get some tally's in the win column over the next few weeks and make a team of ourselves

Heath
06-22-2005, 03:58 PM
little scoreboard stumper info......your 1970 Cincinnati Reds .....

Team Batting Glossary

Pos Player Ag G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG SB CS GDP HBP SH SF IBB OPS+
---+-------------------+--+----+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+----+-----+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+----+
C Johnny Bench 22 158 605 97 177 35 4 45 148 54 102 .293 .345 .587 5 2 12 0 1 11 9 145
1B Lee May 27 153 605 78 153 34 2 34 94 38 125 .253 .297 .484 1 1 19 2 0 4 5 106
2B Tommy Helms 29 150 575 42 136 21 1 1 45 21 33 .237 .262 .282 2 2 18 0 5 4 4 46
3B Tony Perez 28 158 587 107 186 28 6 40 129 83 134 .317 .401 .589 8 3 15 4 0 7 13 163
SS Dave Concepcion 22 101 265 38 69 6 3 1 19 23 45 .260 .324 .317 10 2 10 3 3 2 5 73
OF #Pete Rose 29 159 649 120 205 37 9 15 52 73 64 .316 .385 .470 12 7 7 2 0 4 10 128
OF *Bobby Tolan 24 152 589 112 186 34 6 16 80 62 94 .316 .384 .475 57 20 9 8 9 7 3 130
OF *Bernie Carbo 22 125 365 54 113 19 3 21 63 94 77 .310 .454 .551 10 4 6 4 2 2 9 169

Woody Woodward 27 100 264 23 59 8 3 1 14 20 21 .223 .280 .288 1 2 5 2 0 3 6 53
Hal McRae 24 70 165 18 41 6 1 8 23 15 23 .248 .313 .442 0 2 6 1 0 1 2 101
Pat Corrales 29 43 106 9 25 5 1 1 10 8 22 .236 .289 .330 0 0 4 0 0 0 1 66
#Jimmy Stewart 31 101 105 15 28 3 1 1 8 8 13 .267 .322 .343 5 3 2 1 1 1 1 79
#Darrel Chaney 22 57 95 7 22 3 0 1 4 3 26 .232 .263 .295 1 1 0 1 2 0 1 50
*Angel Bravo 27 65 65 10 18 1 1 0 3 9 13 .277 .365 .323 0 1 0 0 4 0 0 87
*Ty Cline 31 48 63 13 17 7 1 0 8 12 11 .270 .387 .413 1 2 0 0 3 0 1 115
Frank Duffy 23 6 11 1 2 2 0 0 0 1 2 .182 .250 .364 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 63
Bill Plummer 23 4 8 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .125 .222 .125 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -4
Jay Ward 31 6 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 .000 .400 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18


Team Pitching Glossary
Player Ag G ERA W L SV GS GF CG SHO IP H R ER BB HR SO BFP WP HBP BK IBB ERA+
---+-------------------+--+---+------+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+--+---+---+
SP Gary Nolan 22 37 3.27 18 7 0 37 0 4 2 250.7 226 102 91 96 25 181 1052 8 1 2 9 124
SP *Jim Merritt 26 35 4.08 20 12 0 35 0 12 1 234.0 248 114 106 53 21 136 984 4 1 0 12 99
SP Jim McGlothlin 26 35 3.59 14 10 0 34 1 5 3 210.7 192 91 84 86 19 97 893 2 3 0 8 113
SP Wayne Simpson 21 26 3.02 14 3 0 26 0 10 2 176.0 125 73 59 81 15 119 730 6 9 2 3 134
SP Tony Cloninger 29 30 3.83 9 7 1 18 4 0 0 148.0 136 69 63 78 10 56 637 7 4 0 6 106

CL Wayne Granger 26 67 2.66 6 5 35 0 59 0 0 84.7 79 33 25 27 5 38 352 3 1 0 8 153
RP Clay Carroll 29 65 2.59 9 4 16 0 31 0 0 104.3 104 38 30 27 4 63 437 2 2 1 9 157
RP *Don Gullett 19 44 2.43 5 2 6 2 15 0 0 77.7 54 23 21 44 4 76 323 6 0 2 6 167
RP Ray Washburn 32 35 6.92 4 4 0 3 9 0 0 66.3 90 61 51 48 7 37 331 0 0 0 9 59
RP Pedro Borbon 23 12 6.75 0 2 0 1 2 0 0 17.3 21 15 13 6 2 6 79 0 3 1 1 60


Here is the web page I cut and copied from

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1970.shtml

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 03:58 PM
It wouldn't matter if Joe Torre was managing these guys. Our bullpen is bad. Period. We should expect as long as our bullpen remains the same to have late innings like this. Hopefully the front office will realize this... hopefully before next spring (earlier would be fine, too).

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 03:59 PM
come on reds....2 in a row at stake here!

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:59 PM
Good way to start! Get him in!

reds44
06-22-2005, 03:59 PM
I think we are ok.

A few insurance runs here would be nice but i think our PEN can hang on for us.....

LETS GO REDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take this series and lets get some tally's in the win column over the next few weeks and make a team of ourselves
Only 10 games out of the Wild Card! :D

MasonBuzz3
06-22-2005, 04:00 PM
cruz has got to pull this ball to the right side, get him over to third

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:00 PM
NICE way to start us off Larue........ string a few more hits together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:00 PM
OK, I'm back. The batteries in my mouse died and I had to run to the corner and get new ones. Looking at the score I'm glad I was gone when I was.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:00 PM
Come on Felipe!

1st and 2nd 0 outs!

The_jbh
06-22-2005, 04:01 PM
Heres what Narron was talking about yesterday. THe small things in baseball. We just need to score a run here. give us a little insurance

cumberlandreds
06-22-2005, 04:01 PM
About five more runs and I will feel good about the ninth.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:01 PM
nice job Felipe!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:01 PM
LaRue a leadoff double, Cruz HBP, 1st and 2nd no outs.

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:01 PM
Cruz HBB :) 2 on 0 outs.........Lopez aurilia casey due up.... :)

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:02 PM
Lopez executes the sacrifice, 2nd and 3rd, 1 out.

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:02 PM
sac bunt runers to 2nd and 3rd..... BASE HIT AURILIA come on buddy

MasonBuzz3
06-22-2005, 04:02 PM
good job by FeLo, lets see if RA can keep up the hot hitting and pad this lead a little

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 04:02 PM
Great job of execution there by Felo. Gotta get these two in!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:02 PM
For those who haven't heard Julian Tavarez is in to pitch this inning.

cumberlandreds
06-22-2005, 04:03 PM
It's almost time for me to call it a day at work.(I get here at 6am). Thanks for the PBP Danny Serafini! If I could give rep points I would give you all of mine.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:04 PM
Now the Miley Reds wouldnt get these guys in. Lets see what the Jerry Reds do.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:05 PM
Nearly a WP
2-2

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:05 PM
Only 10 games out of the Wild Card! :D


honestly, we win 10 in a row, as unlikely as that is, and we're right in this thing.....its still early enough for us to make a run if we become "The hottest team in baseball"

how we do that i dunno.

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:05 PM
No problem Cumberland, just trying to do my part.

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:06 PM
Aurilia strikes out.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:06 PM
dang come on Case!

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:06 PM
RA strikes out swinging..... add a few runs dangit!!!! grrrrrr

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 04:06 PM
That's not what you're supposed to do there Richy... oh well. At least Casey isn't able to hit into a DP here so maybe he can knock 'em in!

The_jbh
06-22-2005, 04:06 PM
Thats the kind of stuff that cant happen


Casey, gimme one of those imfamous singles that everyone likes to complain about on this board!

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:08 PM
honestly, we win 10 in a row, as unlikely as that is, and we're right in this thing.....its still early enough for us to make a run if we become "The hottest team in baseball"

how we do that i dunno.

I know trust me.
Adam Dunn's words are going around in my head "There is still alot of baseball left." Winning this series is a step the the right direction.

I just want to play for something down the stretch, I HATE games that dont mean anything.

Casey down 0-2

The_jbh
06-22-2005, 04:08 PM
blah, thats bad baseball... end of the inning

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:08 PM
David Weathers its up to you bud!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:08 PM
Casey flies out to LF, Reds don't get a run.

After 8
STL 6 7 1
CIN 7 13 1

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:08 PM
I know trust me.
Adam Dunn's words are going around in my head "There is still alot of baseball left." Winning this series is a step the the right direction.

I just want to play for something down the stretch, I HATE games that dont mean anything.

Casey down 0-2


when and why did dunner say that

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:08 PM
Casey Flies out deep...... who we got coming in to close this?

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:09 PM
so i guess its time to anoint weathers the closer, now that we're taking leads into the 9th every couple games....lol

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:09 PM
It will be weathers, and I bet if it anyone gets on Mercker will come in to face Edmonds.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:10 PM
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:10 PM
3 more outs guys...... 3 more outs...

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:11 PM
Here we go, it's Molina, Mabry and Eckstein.

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 04:11 PM
Come on now... this shouldn't be too hard guys... **crossing fingers**

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:12 PM
It would be nice if Freeal was healthy and could come in for Cruz.


To more Dave!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:12 PM
Grounder to 2nd, 1 out.

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:12 PM
id take that trio over almost anyone else in the cardinals lineup....please stay away from poohholllles

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:12 PM
Molina...grounds out 1 down

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 04:12 PM
Two more to go! Come on, Reds!

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:12 PM
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap cl

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:12 PM
The Reds went over the 1 million mark in attendance today. It's the team's 42nd home game, which puts them on pace for just under 2 million this year.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:13 PM
1 on 1 out

Need a DP!
Dont want to see Edmonds

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:13 PM
Mabry.....singles to RF

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 04:13 PM
DP ball needed... come on now!

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:13 PM
shoot

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:14 PM
Edwin Encarnacion has been named to the IL All Star game. They haven't mentioned anyone else so I'm guessing he's the Bats' lone representative.

Edit: Marty just said he is indeed the only Bat.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:14 PM
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap!

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:14 PM
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap
David weathers!
clap clap clap clap clap!

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:16 PM
1 more!!!!!!!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:16 PM
Grounder to SS, gets to 2nd, not in time to 1st. No DP, but they get an out, 2 gone.

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 04:16 PM
Please... please get Edmonds out. PLEASE!

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:16 PM
Like I said here comes Mercker. Please 1 more out! Come on Kent!

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:16 PM
Eckstien......Grounds into Force out

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:16 PM
Mercker coming in to face Edmonds.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:17 PM
kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap
kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap
kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap!

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:17 PM
Lets Go Mercker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One More Out......

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:17 PM
merker and weathers the two headed monster closer?

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 04:17 PM
Let's go, Kent!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:18 PM
With the scoreless 1 2/3 Weathers dips the ERA under 4, 3.99 to be exact.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:18 PM
Please just one more out!

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:18 PM
can you dig it?

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:18 PM
kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap
kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap!
kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap!

2 more strikes!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:18 PM
Swing and a miss, strike one.

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:19 PM
1 more strike!

kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap
kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap!
kent mercker!
clap clap clap clap clap!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:19 PM
Swing and a miss, strike two.

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:19 PM
Pop up out of play.

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:19 PM
Fireworks

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:20 PM
And this one belongs to the reds!

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:20 PM
GAME OVER! Edmonds strikes out swinging on a fastball up and in, and THIS ONE BELONGS TO THE REDS!

GridironGrace
06-22-2005, 04:20 PM
Edmonds......STRIKES OUT SWINGING.........REDS WIN

Great job Mercker.....great game guys!!!!! nice win..

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:20 PM
Congrats reds and dunn.....2 in a row, now back to work.

TC81190
06-22-2005, 04:20 PM
And this one belongs to the Reds?

RedsFan1990
06-22-2005, 04:20 PM
I think I could handle this winning stuff...

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:21 PM
9.5 out of the Wild Card! We aint dead yet!

shredda2000
06-22-2005, 04:22 PM
Way to go JERRY'S KIDS! (Did I say that out Loud?) :eek:

Danny Serafini
06-22-2005, 04:23 PM
Final score:

STL 6 8 1
CIN 7 13 1

W: Ortiz (3-5)
L: Mulder (8-5)
S: Mercker (1)

HR: Dunn (19 & 20), Grudzielanek (4)

RedsFan75
06-22-2005, 04:25 PM
So does this performance mean Wagner is on the way to Louisville?

The_jbh
06-22-2005, 04:26 PM
naaa. We might as well train him here.

I do want to see Kelly and Booker up soon though

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:26 PM
Jerry
Jerry
Jerry

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:27 PM
And a fitting song comes on after the game on WKKI, "These Dreams"

shredda2000
06-22-2005, 04:30 PM
merker and weathers the two headed monster closer?

The new Nasty Boys!!!

KearnsyEars
06-22-2005, 04:36 PM
And a fitting song comes on after the game on WKKI, "These Dreams"

hahaha good song, but why fitting?

reds44
06-22-2005, 04:45 PM
Becasue I dreamed of beating the Cards 2 of 3 before the series and it happen. And I still of dreams of a playoff run weather or not they seem real.

Team Clark
06-22-2005, 05:24 PM
Same Bat station,same bat manager.

Almost fell of my chair from laughing so hard.

cumberlandreds
06-22-2005, 09:20 PM
Almost fell of my chair from laughing so hard.

I'm here to please. I didn't know if anyone would get the old TV Batman reference. :)

RedsMan3203
06-23-2005, 01:04 AM
good game thread boys... I enjoyed reading it...

redsrule2500
06-23-2005, 02:54 AM
So what do you guys think about his horrible lineups now? ;)

Ravenlord
06-23-2005, 03:10 AM
So what do you guys think about his horrible lineups now? ;)they still suck.

Jpup
06-23-2005, 06:06 AM
they still suck.

:thumbup: