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Unassisted
06-29-2005, 10:19 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/water/story/0,13790,1517040,00.html

Think before you flush - mayor's latest message to Londoners

Hugh Muir
Wednesday June 29, 2005
The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/)

In the five years since his ascent to power, few areas of life have gone untouched by the mayor of London. His writ has encompassed transport, policing and health. But yesterday, by way of addressing water conservation, he turned to the tricky matter of how Londoners wash and use the toilet. Unveiling plans for a concerted drive to cut water waste, Ken Livingstone urged Londoners to refrain from flushing the toilet if they have had only "a pee".

In this era of energy austerity, the mayor said responsible citizens will also eschew the wasteful tendency to bathe and will instead take showers, but that even then they will be expected to show moderation. People addicted to power showers will be expected to consider how this appears amid a climate of denial, as will those who brush their teeth or wash vegetables under streams of running water, or run the washing machine half full. The mayor will also seek legal powers to make the capital more energy efficient. On Friday, when he meets the environment secretary, Margaret Beckett, he will ask for legislation to empower him to impose water metering for the first time. He will also seek an immediate hosepipe ban, a ban on "incredibly wasteful" sprinklers and the introduction of a drought order, which would make it easier to impose immediate restrictions.

He said that without a change in practices and attitudes, the only way London could cope with another dry winter would be to introduce standpipes as early as next year.

Mr Livingstone said a third of London's water was flushed down the toilet. "We are asking people to consider - and obviously it is a matter of personal choice - that if all you have done is take a pee, you don't need to flush the toilet every time.

"The quickest and most dramatic impact that we can make is - don't use a sprinkler or hose in the garden, don't use a hose to water your car, and don't flush the lavatory if you have just had a pee. If we can get people doing that, the consumption rate will go down and we will start seeing not just a build-up of our reserves but we will also start to reduce the amounts of energy we consume."

Chip R
06-29-2005, 10:28 AM
That's what we had to do in 1993 when a flood got into the waterworks plant. We didn't have running water for a week much less drinking water. We didn't have good drinking water for about a month. Thank goodness my apartment was near the swimming pool. We were allowed to take water out of the pool for the toilet. Before they actually turned the water off I got every plastic container I could find and filled them up with water to bathe and cook with.

westofyou
06-29-2005, 10:32 AM
Sounds like normal west coast drought years.

RedsFan75
06-29-2005, 10:50 AM
When I lived in Texas the rule of thumb was...

"If it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down"

Redsland
06-29-2005, 10:54 AM
That's what we had to do in 1993 when a flood got into the waterworks plant.
Oh dear god! Water?! In the waterworks plant?! No wonder there was such a shortage!

;)

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 11:14 AM
When I lived in Texas the rule of thumb was...

"If it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down"
:help:

Chip R
06-29-2005, 11:41 AM
Oh dear god! Water?! In the waterworks plant?! No wonder there was such a shortage!

;):) Yeah, the river water got into the plant and contaminated the whole water supply. My sister lived in West Des Moines then and they had a separate plant and they had water to drink and shower with.

Red Leader
06-29-2005, 11:45 AM
:) Yeah, the river water got into the plant and contaminated the whole water supply. My sister lived in West Des Moines then and they had a separate plant and they had water to drink and shower with.


...and yet you spent hours and hours filling plastic cups with pool water????

Why not just drive to her house and fill up some buckets? Better yet, why not just go to her house, cook and take a shower? :p:

TeamCasey
06-29-2005, 11:47 AM
When I lived in Texas the rule of thumb was...

"If it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down"

That's been our motto in a lot of camps I've stayed in. Plumbing always breaks down ..... usually from so many kids using the toilet with huge wads of paper.

Chip R
06-29-2005, 11:58 AM
...and yet you spent hours and hours filling plastic cups with pool water????

Why not just drive to her house and fill up some buckets? Better yet, why not just go to her house, cook and take a shower? :p:Well, it wasn't hours and hours. I went out with some friends that evening and we got back to my place and saw the report on the news that the water would be shut off later that morning. So I got as much water as I could out of the faucets and put them in the fridge. It didn't take that long. I only used the pool water for flushing. Taking a shower was interesting. I used gallon milk jugs and heated the water on the stove, wet myself with it and washed, rinsed, and dried off. I had to do something similar when I broke my ankle last year only the water was already hot and back then I didn't have to worry about getting my cast wet. I didn't go to my sister's till about a week later to take a real shower.

Redsland
06-29-2005, 01:00 PM
...and yet you spent hours and hours filling plastic cups with pool water????
How did you keep people from peeing in all that pool water?

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 01:03 PM
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww