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pedro
06-29-2005, 07:13 PM
Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
F. Lopez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .304
R. Aurilia 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .257
S. Casey 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .322
J. Randa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .297
A. Dunn lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .242
W. Pena rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .271
J. LaRue c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .257
J. Romano cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
R. Ortiz p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .100
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
St. Louis
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
D. Eckstein ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .293
J. Edmonds cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286
A. Pujols 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .340
R. Sanders lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .281
L. Walker rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .247
S. Rolen 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .243
Grudzie 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .290
Y. Molina c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
M. Morris p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .083
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Puffy
06-29-2005, 07:26 PM
Cause this lineup worked so well yesterday (I mean the Aurilia second still and Romano against the righty) :all_cohol

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 07:28 PM
Griffey still not feeling good.

Hopefully he'll be available, which he was not yesterday

Redny
06-29-2005, 07:30 PM
Griffey is available to pinch hit per Marcs blog.

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 07:33 PM
It'll work.

One day ;)

Edskin
06-29-2005, 07:40 PM
The Reds suck. We all know that. And they'd probably still suck even if the line-up was done properly every night. So, in the end, it doesn't really matter, but I find it MADDENING that on top of all of our other problems, BOTH of our managers this year now simply REFUSE to bat our best power hitter/best on base earner/most dangerous hitter any higher than 5th and usually 6th. In the meantime, has-beens like RA not only keep finding a spot on the line-up card, but they also wind up in spots where more productive players belong. Baffling.

oneupper
06-29-2005, 07:51 PM
Griffey is available to pinch hit per Marcs blog.

Didn't he go back to Cinci?

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 07:51 PM
Didn't he go back to Cinci?
That is one long pinch hit commute

Tony Cloninger
06-29-2005, 08:07 PM
This town....is becoming like a ghost town.

Fans won't put up with no more..........too much stupidity in the front office.


Where the heck is everyone?

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:07 PM
They all went out for ice cream?

Falls City Beer
06-29-2005, 08:08 PM
Not much to see, I guess.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 08:09 PM
This town....is becoming like a ghost town.

Fans won't put up with no more..........too much stupidity in the front office.


Where the heck is everyone?

Hello?? Hello??Hello??Hello??Hello??Hello??Hello??

Tony Cloninger
06-29-2005, 08:15 PM
Is there anybody in there?

Song that should have been played whenever Miley went to the mound....or Gullett....or even Narron with these lineups.

pedro
06-29-2005, 08:18 PM
This town....is becoming like a ghost town.

Fans won't put up with no more..........too much stupidity in the front office.


Where the heck is everyone?

We all know the chosen toys
Of catty girls and pretty boys
Make up that face
Jump in the race
Life's a kick in this town
Life's a kick in this town

[Chorus:]
This town is our town
It is so glamorous
Bet you'd live here if you could
And be one of us

Change the lines that were said before
We're all dreamers - we're all *****s
Discarded stars
Like worn out cars
Litter the streets of this town
Litter the streets of this town

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:19 PM
I'm Spartacus

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:20 PM
What's with George calling Pujols, "Sir Albert"?! The sooner we fire this guy, the better! :thumbdown

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:22 PM
These Cards announcers are terrible. As bad as just about anyone I've heard.

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
Dunn becomes the first baserunner of the game as he doubles to left. He's been hitting to the other way lately.

Falls City Beer
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
'Bout time.

RedFanAlways1966
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
WOW! WMP with a bomb to CF! 2-run blast after a Dunn double down the leftfield line.

Tony Cloninger
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
To some people...i imagine or assume this.....firing GG would be like firing Harwell or Scully. I say this only beacuse i cannot imagine having to put up with this guy for the last 10 years....... i mean i've had MLB extra innings for 3 years..and i want to pull a Hari Kari (sounds just like Harry Carey doesn't it?)
every time i hear him.

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
Wily Mo homers!!!

Raisor
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
Dunn's double turns out to be nothing better then a soft walk.

Patrick Bateman
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
Still think Pena's trade value is nothing?

rdiersin
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
WMP HRs.

Reds Nd2
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
PeŮa just crushed that one.

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 08:24 PM
Pena homers! 2-0 Reds.

pedro
06-29-2005, 08:25 PM
These Cards announcers are terrible. As bad as just about anyone I've heard.

Hrbosky is a moron. He tells us that Dunn led the league in K's every time he comes up.

The other guy isn't quite so bad.

No one is worse that Grande IMO. I'd rather listen to myself get hit in the head with a hammer.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 08:25 PM
Good to see Wily Mo do that.

I missed that.

cincinnati chili
06-29-2005, 08:26 PM
So this is a game thread, eh. It's been a long time. I forgot what I'm supposed to do.

westofyou
06-29-2005, 08:26 PM
So this is a game thread, eh. It's been a long time. I forgot what I'm supposed to do.

Trade me randy johnson

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:27 PM
Slam the lineup Chili ;)

Raisor
06-29-2005, 08:27 PM
No one is worse that Grande IMO. I'd rather listen to myself get hit in the head with a hammer.

I'd rather listen to you getting hit in the head with a hammer then listen to Grande also.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:27 PM
Hrbosky is a moron. He tells us that Dunn led the league in K's every time he comes up.

The other guy isn't quite so bad.

No one is worse that Grande IMO. I'd rather listen to myself get hit in the head with a hammer.

He said Dunn was on pace to break his own strikeout record. He's on pace to strike out 20 times less than last year.

pahster
06-29-2005, 08:27 PM
Hrbosky is a moron. He tells us that Dunn led the league in K's every time he comes up.

The other guy isn't quite so bad.

No one is worse that Grande IMO. I'd rather listen to myself get hit in the head with a hammer.

I can't stand the Cardinal's announcers. I live in Missouri, so I have to listen to them all the time.

Raisor
06-29-2005, 08:28 PM
So this is a game thread, eh. It's been a long time. I forgot what I'm supposed to do.


we don't like new people in the clique. You must give us money to bribe us into letting you stay Boston-Boy.

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 08:28 PM
Pena becomes the fifth Red this year to reach double digit figures in homeruns: Dunn-20, Griffey-14, Lopez-13, Randa-12 and Pena-10.

CTA513
06-29-2005, 08:28 PM
I think the strike zone changes with every pitch.

westofyou
06-29-2005, 08:28 PM
Al has weak cache from the 70's when the Cardinals stunk.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 08:29 PM
Jason Romano sucks.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:30 PM
That was embarassing to watch.

I know WMP isn't a great outfielder, but he has played some CF and didn't do too badly last year.

cincinnati chili
06-29-2005, 08:30 PM
What is Romano doing on this roster if he can't catch a fly ball?

RedFanAlways1966
06-29-2005, 08:30 PM
WMP's first HR since June 17 vs. Braves (10 games ago).

WMP's 4nd HR in June. He hit two in a game vs. the D-Rays (June 8) the day after coming off the DL. One was a 2-run HR to win the game w/ 2 outs in the 9th after Junior tied it w/ a single.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:30 PM
Somebody get cheese boy a basket

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:30 PM
Well that stinks

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:30 PM
defensive specialist my ...

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:31 PM
That should have been an error on Romano...

Walker HR :(

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:31 PM
I'm glad we called EE up to hang out on the bench ;)

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:31 PM
cheese boy look like he was chasing a butterfly while riding a unicycle

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:32 PM
What is Romano doing on this roster if he can't catch a fly ball?

He's DanO's guy. He's untouchable.

Chip R
06-29-2005, 08:32 PM
Marty sez if Felipe doesn't go to the ASG there really aren't any other candidates on the Reds.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:32 PM
to the Reds defensive specialist means "can't hit"

GAC
06-29-2005, 08:32 PM
Romano the defensive specialist and Otiz doing his Milton impersonation (not Milton either ;) ).

I was just coaching the boys tonight on catching flies in the outfield and how not to do it. Glad they weren't watching Romano! :lol:

Now an error on Felipe.

Solid fundamentals there boys! :rolleyes:

We're not waiting till later to melt down!

Raisor
06-29-2005, 08:33 PM
cheese boy look like he was chasing a butterfly while riding a unicycle

When I played T-Ball as a kid, we had a couple girls on the team who "played" OF. They would pick dandylions during the game.

That's what Cheese Boy looked like.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 08:33 PM
Lopez with a brain fart.

I forgive him.

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 08:33 PM
Uh. Yeah. That was a bad throw, Felipe.

He let the ball play him instead of charging it and it caused him to hurry the throw. Need to work on that.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:34 PM
that was an easy pickup at first, it was a long hop. The swipe play only looks good Sean if you catch the ball

cincinnati chili
06-29-2005, 08:34 PM
I've had very few chances to watch the "new Felipe" this year. So I finally get time to sit and watch a game on the web, and the "old Felipe" shows up.

Hit the bull!

WVRedsFan
06-29-2005, 08:34 PM
That just proves it. Dan O'Brien is a total bust as a judge of talent. Jason Romano belongs in AAA. Instead of leading 2-1 we're tied. And that should have been an error.

BTW, we have no defense, it appears.

And listening on XM to the St. Louis broadcast is maddening. The guy doing it is the worst--I mean worst--PBP man I've ever heard!

CrackerJack
06-29-2005, 08:34 PM
When I played T-Ball as a kid, we had a couple girls on the team who "played" OF. They would pick dandylions during the game.



Uuuh, you mean everyone didn't do that? :(

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:34 PM
Bad throw by Lopez, but also Casey probably should have dug that one out.

Base hit.

Falls City Beer
06-29-2005, 08:34 PM
Wheels. Off.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:35 PM
of course Cheese Boy spent all hsi formative years in the minors as a 2B

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:35 PM
Solid fundamentals there boys! :rolleyes:


Even the best players in the game make errors from time to time. It happens, it has nothing to do with fundamentals.

Fullboat
06-29-2005, 08:35 PM
Is there a game on tonite? I tuned in but looks like a Stooge film festival
is on.

Tony Cloninger
06-29-2005, 08:36 PM
GREAT!!......now another excuse for DO to call JN and say...."Get Olmedo warmed up....Machado will up there soon enough to help stop this Felipe at SS crap."

rdiersin
06-29-2005, 08:36 PM
I'm glad we called EE up to hang out on the bench ;)

That's what I've been thinking Krono. Its taken me a long time to get to the fire DanO camp, but it finally has with this. You know, I didn't like his off season moves, but I gave him a shot. Didn't care for his drafts, well give him his shot, I may not like it, but lets see what he does. But this is ridiculus. Bring up a good prospect so he can sit. Genius. Alas, all is lost. Pull the trigger Allen.

Falls City Beer
06-29-2005, 08:36 PM
I remember last night saying I didn't think the game was a disappointing loss, citing the fact that the team didn't embarrass themselves.

Well--here's the flipside.

westofyou
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
What is Romano doing on this roster if he can't catch a fly ball?

He's Dan O's pool boy?

He makes wicked sandwich?

He smells like flowers?

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
What the hell is Lopez doing??

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
brain fart there. That was not a DP ball

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
Didn't Cesar Hernandez get released in 1994 or 1995 for dropping a ball, when he was ostensibly the defensive replacement in the OF?

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
Uh...Felipe. Please throw the ball a bit more accurately. Thanks very much.

Yeesh.

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
I'm having flashbacks of the 2003 Felipe Lopez.

cincinnati chili
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
For those of you listening to Marty, Al H. is talking a bunch of nonsense about Tony LaRussa's confidence turning Yoda Molina into a jedi master.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
Now THAT was a mental error.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:38 PM
Big change under Jerry. I am not sure I have seen a worse inning all year

Tony Cloninger
06-29-2005, 08:39 PM
Even Pokey Reese had 4 E's in a game at SS.....and he was a better fielder than Felipe.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2005, 08:39 PM
The inning should be over with Reds leading 2-1.

You have to wonder...

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:39 PM
I'm having flashbacks of the 2003 Felipe Lopez.that Feilpe didn't hit

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:39 PM
Ortiz doesn't have a whole lot on his pitches. They look like they're floating to the plate. Dude's just not a very good pitcher.

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:39 PM
Could be worse
;)

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:39 PM
I feel bad for Ramon Ortiz. This is a difficult game when you give the opposition six outs in an inning.

westofyou
06-29-2005, 08:39 PM
In the announcer world Al is the equivalent of a sandwich from 7-11.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 08:40 PM
Hal reporting that Dan told him that he has no intention of any trades until the trade deadline (if then) because Narron and his staff have asked for a fair chance with this team.

Falls City Beer
06-29-2005, 08:40 PM
http://www.tomuphoto.com/news/images/Train%20wreck.jpg

Aronchis
06-29-2005, 08:40 PM
You see, Dan O'brien isn't as stupid as thought. Moving Felipe and his big bat to 2nd is the right thing to do. He simply doesn't have the range or mindset for SS.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:40 PM
Al is gushing all over Eckstein for his groundout to shortstop.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
You see, Dan O'brien isn't as stupid as thought. Moving Felipe and his big bat to 2nd is the right thing to do. He simply doesn't have the range or mindset for SS.

Because of 1 bad game?

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
Hal reporting that Dan told him that he has no intention of any trades until the trade deadline (if then) because Narron and his staff have asked for a fair chance with this team.

:rolleyes: :thumbdown :angry:

Chip R
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
Hal sez that DanO told him there won't be any trades - if any - until the deadline cause Narron and Co. want to see what they can do with this team.

rdiersin
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
Hal reporting that Dan told him that he has no intention of any trades until the trade deadline (if then) because Narron and his staff have asked for a fair chance with this team.

More waiting. :rolleyes: :bang: :bang:

cincinnati chili
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
When I played T-Ball as a kid, we had a couple girls on the team who "played" OF. They would pick dandylions during the game.


Were they hot?

Oh... as a kid. You played t-ball as a kid. My bad.

Reds Nd2
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
For those of you listening to Marty, Al H. is talking a bunch of nonsense about Tony LaRussa's confidence turning Yoda Molina into a jedi master.

Yea', I'm dying to go back and watch that game and see how they reacted when that actually happened.

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
You see, Dan O'brien isn't as stupid as thought. Moving Felipe and his big bat to 2nd is the right thing to do. He simply doesn't have the range or mindset for SS.

One bad game.

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:41 PM
Hal reporting that Dan told him that he has no intention of any trades until the trade deadline (if then) because Narron and his staff have asked for a fair chance with this team.
Just as I feared :(

Aronchis
06-29-2005, 08:42 PM
Hal reporting that Dan told him that he has no intention of any trades until the trade deadline (if then) because Narron and his staff have asked for a fair chance with this team.

Nothing more than Hal hyperbole. DanO, much like Bowden is on probation.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:43 PM
Felipe might be better suited for for second base, but he's played a pretty good SS this year. Coming into tonight's game, in 55 starts he'd made ony 5 errors. That's not bad. And his range, while not the best in the game, isn't that bad either.

pedro
06-29-2005, 08:43 PM
You see, Dan O'brien isn't as stupid as thought. Moving Felipe and his big bat to 2nd is the right thing to do. He simply doesn't have the range or mindset for SS.

Casey should have had the first ball. A good first baseman would have.

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 08:43 PM
For those of you listening to Marty, Al H. is talking a bunch of nonsense about Tony LaRussa's confidence turning Yoda Molina into a jedi master.

I'm getting the St. Louis guys. These two combine to form the most boring announcer combination of all time. They make me want to take a nap. Their audio should be pumped into maternity wards all over the country to keep babies quiet. They don't need an introduction, they require a eulogy. They don't need to mow the grass at Busch because the sound of their voices makes it stop growing entirely.

pedro
06-29-2005, 08:44 PM
Nothing more than Hal hyperbole. DanO, much like Bowden is on probation.

Halberbole.

westofyou
06-29-2005, 08:44 PM
Felipe might be better suited for for second base, but he's played a pretty good SS this year. Coming into tonight's game, in 55 starts he'd made ony 5 errors. That's not bad. And his range, while not the best in the game, isn't that bad either.

Yep, he'll make a damn good 2nd baseman.

Patrick Bateman
06-29-2005, 08:44 PM
You see, Dan O'brien isn't as stupid as thought. Moving Felipe and his big bat to 2nd is the right thing to do. He simply doesn't have the range or mindset for SS.

You are wrong. His range is great. Players make errors. They do.

We also don't have anyone better. But then, neither does anyone else.
Lopez is the best SS in the NL.

Be satisfied with that. One inning does not change that.

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:45 PM
I'm getting the St. Louis guys. These two combine to form the most boring announcer combination of all time. They make me want to take a nap. Their audio should be pumped into maternity wards all over the country to keep babies quiet. They don't need an introduction, they require a eulogy. They don't need to mow the grass at Busch because the sound of their voices makes it stop growing entirely.

I'm getting the other St. Louis guys...you know, the ones who keep gushing about the Cards...you know, George and Chris.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:45 PM
Hal sez that DanO told him there won't be any trades - if any - until the deadline cause Narron and Co. want to see what they can do with this team.we got to see it that inning

Hate to break the bad news to you DanO. It's the players, not the manager

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:46 PM
Felipe is the SS.

The other option is Aurilia.

So

Felipe is the SS

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 08:46 PM
Unless the Reds acquire a stud shortstop prospect... I keep Lopez where he is.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:47 PM
Hal sez that DanO told him there won't be any trades - if any - until the deadline cause Narron and Co. want to see what they can do with this team.

It's hard to understate the level of incompetence coming from this FO. Really, it is. I cna't possibly fathom how they can sit their with a straight face and think that they can somehow play better, and then to think that it really matters.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:48 PM
does the mad hacker ever take a strike?

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:49 PM
IMO

Sparky Anderson and the entire BRM could suddenly arrive via time machine and I still don't think they would catch up in the wild card.

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 08:50 PM
I had to walk away from the TV in the second inning. A girl can only take so much bad baseball. :runaway:

Aronchis
06-29-2005, 08:51 PM
It's hard to understate the level of incompetence coming from this FO. Really, it is. I cna't possibly fathom how they can sit their with a straight face and think that they can somehow play better, and then to think that it really matters.

It doesn't. But DanO's job, it means alot. That is why you won't see any trades to the ASB. DanO has been given a job requirement. If he can't have this team pushing 500 by the trade deadline, it seems like he will be fired. If things continue to go downhill(really stay on course) he may be fired before that time(more around the ASB).

I think he is blocked from making deals and that Allen is handling that "talk" probably with Kullman, that means DanO is in deep doo doo. I definitely agree they should just ax him, but Lindner probably has final culling which may be difficult for him to do.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:51 PM
How much you wanna bet Aurilia starts at SS tomorrow?

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 08:51 PM
we got to see it that inning

Hate to break the bad news to you DanO. It's the players, not the manager

Impossible! All that veteran leadership, with proven track records who know how to win?!?

Chip R
06-29-2005, 08:52 PM
You guys are forgetting Machado. ;)

MWM, as I said in the Randa thread, maybe the Reds would be better off holding on to these guys like Randa (I guess Randa would be the only one who qualified since RA's numbers over the last year or two have been awful) and getting a draft choice instead of a prospect(s). If you believe DanO and his bunch are so incompenent - which they are - we may be better off getting another draft pick that a dofferent GM and scouting director may pick. I'd almost rather gamble on that rather than DanO bringing another Machado or Romano clone.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:52 PM
I had to walk away from the TV in the second inning. A girl can only take so much bad baseball. :runaway:it just drives me nuts having to watch the Happy Barber, Mad Hacker and Cheese Boy out there together. Thanks DanO

WVRedsFan
06-29-2005, 08:53 PM
I'm getting the other St. Louis guys...you know, the ones who keep gushing about the Cards...you know, George and Chris.

I'm not getting that feed tonight, but if anyone had any hmmm. Guts, yes that's the word, the PR department would be going bonkers with these two. How in the world do you get people to come out to the park if all you can say is the opposition is the greatest in the world?

Many of you know the PR guy with the Reds and like him. He may be a nice guy, but no one with any regard for their job would put up with these two duds for telecasters. They sell every team in the majors. Pitiful.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:53 PM
You guys are forgetting Machado. ;)

MWM, as I said in the Randa thread, maybe the Reds would be better off holding on to these guys like Randa (I guess Randa would be the only one who qualified since RA's numbers over the last year or two have been awful) and getting a draft choice instead of a prospect(s). If you believe DanO and his bunch are so incompenent - which they are - we may be better off getting another draft pick that a dofferent GM and scouting director may pick. I'd almost rather gamble on that rather than DanO bringing another Machado or Romano clone.

that might be true. That's a scary thought though.

Aronchis
06-29-2005, 08:55 PM
You guys are forgetting Machado. ;)

MWM, as I said in the Randa thread, maybe the Reds would be better off holding on to these guys like Randa (I guess Randa would be the only one who qualified since RA's numbers over the last year or two have been awful) and getting a draft choice instead of a prospect(s). If you believe DanO and his bunch are so incompenent - which they are - we may be better off getting another draft pick that a dofferent GM and scouting director may pick. I'd almost rather gamble on that rather than DanO bringing another Machado or Romano clone.

This is only meaningfull if DanO stays on. If he is axed, they go.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:55 PM
looking like a double figure night for the birds

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:56 PM
It doesn't. But DanO's job, it means alot. That is why you won't see any trades to the ASB. DanO has been given a job requirement. If he can't have this team pushing 500 by the trade deadline, it seems like he will be fired. If things continue to go downhill(really stay on course) he may be fired before that time(more around the ASB).

I think he is blocked from making deals and that Allen is handling that "talk" probably with Kullman, that means DanO is in deep doo doo. I definitely agree they should just ax him, but Lindner probably has final culling which may be difficult for him to do.

I kinda hope you are right. It's like Allen might be saying, "Dano, this is your team. You staked your claim on it. You aren't going to be muddying the waters. You will sink or swim with these guys." Meanwhile Allen is telling Kullman (who I have a lot more confidence in than Dano), "Get your ducks lined up, and be ready to pull the trigger at the deadline."

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 08:56 PM
"Little Pedro"

What a joke.

Ortiz is Haynes.

"Little Jimmy"

There. That's better.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2005, 08:56 PM
Walker--another HR. Horrible. Is the bullpen even up?

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:56 PM
How much you wanna bet Aurilia starts at SS tomorrow?
The lineup I fear.
LF Romano
2B Aurilia
1B Casey
CF Griffey
3B Randa
RF Cruz
C LaRue
SS Machado

cincinnati chili
06-29-2005, 08:56 PM
I love Larry Walker. Like Eric Davis, it's a damn shame he didn't stay healthy enough to make it to the next level.

Fullboat
06-29-2005, 08:57 PM
Ortiz has been possesed by Milton :eek:

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 08:57 PM
Wagner up in the pen

flyer85
06-29-2005, 08:58 PM
"Little Jimmy"

There. That's better.more like "Little Wlly". Why won't he go home?

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 08:58 PM
George was giddy as a schoolgirl after Walker's HR.

MWM
06-29-2005, 08:58 PM
The Reds have given up 9 or more runs 17 times this year.

Patrick Bateman
06-29-2005, 08:59 PM
How much you wanna bet Aurilia starts at SS tomorrow?

How much ya got? A jube-jube and a button?

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:00 PM
I think George and Chris really do like the Reds..but the Reds have been so stinky for so lonk they just started rooting for a winner

It's only natural

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:00 PM
he does have a quicker hook than dave

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 09:00 PM
The Reds have given up 9 or more runs 17 times this year.

That's obviously a result of too little effort from the offensive players, no bunting, Jimenez' attitude, and Kearns' weight.

westofyou
06-29-2005, 09:01 PM
Time to move that man to the BP, polish the turd and sell it by September.

WMR
06-29-2005, 09:01 PM
The Reds suck. We all know that. And they'd probably still suck even if the line-up was done properly every night. So, in the end, it doesn't really matter, but I find it MADDENING that on top of all of our other problems, BOTH of our managers this year now simply REFUSE to bat our best power hitter/best on base earner/most dangerous hitter any higher than 5th and usually 6th. In the meantime, has-beens like RA not only keep finding a spot on the line-up card, but they also wind up in spots where more productive players belong. Baffling.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! And you know what, I blame O'Brien!!!! I think he's making the calls about the line-ups!! But Narron should be ashamed for not having the cojones to stand up to him; or maybe he's just as clueless as Obie!! :(((

:bang: :eek: :confused: :thumbdown

CTA513
06-29-2005, 09:01 PM
No reason to pitch good when you have a circus behind you.

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:01 PM
Comments like that will get you negged, KronoRed! :D

Falls City Beer
06-29-2005, 09:02 PM
Well, they at least got putting Wagner in mop-up. Where he belongs till he starts blowing people away regularly.

Chip R
06-29-2005, 09:04 PM
This is only meaningfull if DanO stays on. If he is axed, they go.Who, Romano and Machado? Yeah. But what I'm saying is that if DanO decides to play, "Let's Make A Deal" with Randa, it's not exactly stretching it to believe he's going to come back with dreck.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:04 PM
Time to move that man to the BP, polish the turd and sell it by September.somebody might thinks its shinola

Caveat Emperor
06-29-2005, 09:04 PM
The Reds have given up 9 or more runs 17 times this year.

Which really isn't all that bad, when you consider that Eric Milton and Ramon Ortiz have a combined 28 starts this season...

Patrick Bateman
06-29-2005, 09:05 PM
Comments like that will get you negged, KronoRed! :D

Well if he says it's natural to hope for the Cards then he ought to be negged for even suggesting such a thing.

MWM
06-29-2005, 09:06 PM
Which really isn't all that bad, when you consider that Eric Milton and Ramon Ortiz have a combined 28 starts this season...

I think it's pretty bad no matter they got there.

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:07 PM
Which really isn't all that bad, when you consider that Eric Milton and Ramon Ortiz have a combined 28 starts this season...

True, and so sad. Really, it's all just sad.

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 09:07 PM
Well if he says it's natural to hope for the Cards then he ought to be negged for even suggesting such a thing.

The first rule of Fight Club is that we do not talk about Fight Club...

:cool:

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:08 PM
Well if he says it's natural to hope for the Cards then he ought to be negged for even suggesting such a thing.
I didn't say that :p:

RedFanAlways1966
06-29-2005, 09:08 PM
Ortiz... 6.58 ERA in 13 starts. Avg. 5.05 innings per start. 3 starts w/ 2 or less innings pitched (2IP, 2IP, 1.2IP). 1 HR every 3.86 IP (Milton 3.25 IP/HR). Only 3 quality starts.

WMR
06-29-2005, 09:09 PM
Damn Pena's HR was estimated at 492 FEET!!!

MWM
06-29-2005, 09:10 PM
The first rule of Fight Club is that we do not talk about Fight Club...

:cool:

The first rule of project fundamentals is you don't ask questions about project fundamentals.

traderumor
06-29-2005, 09:12 PM
I think I may be the luckiest guy in the world right now. Not only do I get to move into our new house weekend, but we won't have cable until next Tuesday. No temptation to watch this train wreck all weekend, if they're even on. I couldn't watch anymore tonight, letting the kids watch Full House.

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 09:12 PM
The first rule of project fundamentals is you don't ask questions about project fundamentals.

Oh crap.

Now I can't remember who I am. I think I better ask my imaginary friend sitting next to me. Looks a lot like Brad Pitt.

MWM
06-29-2005, 09:12 PM
The first rule of project fundamentals is you don't ask questions about project fundamentals.

What are you talking about. I was never told about this project.

Caveat Emperor
06-29-2005, 09:13 PM
The first rule of project fundamentals is you don't ask questions about project fundamentals.

The first rule of Dan O'Brien is that you first have to figure out what a rule is...and then when you figure it out, get a binder and put your definition of "rule" in there, so if you need to look it up again, it'll be there for your reference later.

MWM
06-29-2005, 09:13 PM
What are you talking about. I was never told about this project.

This conversation is over.

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:14 PM
MWM is Brad Pitt?

WOW!

Patrick Bateman
06-29-2005, 09:15 PM
I think I may be the luckiest guy in the world right now. Not only do I get to move into our new house weekend, but we won't have cable until next Tuesday. No temptation to watch this train wreck all weekend, if they're even on. I couldn't watch anymore tonight, letting the kids watch Full House.

I don't care how bad the Reds are, it's never okay to let Bob Saget on your television.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2005, 09:16 PM
somebody might thinks its shinola

:laugh:

I haven't heard that one in years. Maybe they will, but the FO obviously doesn't know it from shinola...

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:16 PM
I'd venture to say that, collectively, we at Redszone are a pretty dedicated group of Reds fans.

If we don't even want to watch them on TV (well, at least traderumor and I don't), what are "average" fans thinking about the team these days?

MWM
06-29-2005, 09:16 PM
MWM is Brad Pitt?

WOW!

I get that alot. Although, I think I'm much closer to Ed Norton.

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:16 PM
Not a fan of Americas Funniest Home videos?

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:17 PM
I'd venture to say that, collectively, we at Redszone are a pretty dedicated group of Reds fans.

If we don't even want to watch them on TV (well, at least traderumor and I don't), what are "average" fans thinking about the team these days?

Average fans are talking about football season or the NBA draft :explode:

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 09:17 PM
I'd venture to say that, collectively, we at Redszone are a pretty dedicated group of Reds fans.

If we don't even want to watch them on TV (well, at least traderumor and I don't), what are "average" fans thinking about the team these days?

You really want to know?

http://www.forums.mlb.com/ml-reds

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:18 PM
You know what I loath? running out of dressing before I'm done with the salad.

It's just not fair.

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:20 PM
You really want to know?

http://www.forums.mlb.com/ml-reds

I'm going to guess that I don't really want to know.

:)

SteelSD
06-29-2005, 09:21 PM
I'm going to guess that I don't really want to know.

:)

Yeah.

Be careful what you wish for...

...Baseball Man. ;)

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:21 PM
You really want to know?

http://www.forums.mlb.com/ml-reds
Gonna have to neg you for posting a link to that..place :help:

DoogMinAmo
06-29-2005, 09:21 PM
Could tonight be the first night of Project Wagner Starter? Some hoped for such a move when he was drafted, if he can hold his own, is it worth the risk of hurting his arm, ala Graves?

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:22 PM
You know what I loath? running out of dressing before I'm done with the salad.

It's just not fair.

I loathe when I'm trying to drink a fountain drink with a straw and the straw has a hole in it.

RFS62
06-29-2005, 09:22 PM
Were they hot?

Oh... as a kid. You played t-ball as a kid. My bad.


No, actually that was last week.

So, your question was valid.


:p:

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:22 PM
I loathe when I'm trying to drink a fountain drink with a straw and the straw has a hole in it.
That is pretty bad, always have to grab 2 straws..just in case

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:23 PM
what are "average" fans thinking about the team these days?nothing

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:24 PM
Would be nice (IMO) if they'd leave EdE in the game. But I know they won't.

Reds Nd2
06-29-2005, 09:24 PM
I loathe when I'm trying to drink a fountain drink with a straw and the straw has a hole in it.

If a straw doesn't have holes in it, doesn't that make it a plastic stick? :confused:

Caveat Emperor
06-29-2005, 09:24 PM
Could tonight be the first night of Project Wagner Starter? Some hoped for such a move when he was drafted, if he can hold his own, is it worth the risk of hurting his arm, ala Graves?

No :bang:

Please, don't even say that...allegedly there are people from the F.O. that read here...

Don't even GIVE them that idea.

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:25 PM
I get that alot. Although, I think I'm much closer to Ed Norton.

http://www.azdailysun.com/images/news_photos/11-12-2003/full/111203_OBIT_CARNEY.jpg

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:26 PM
If a straw doesn't have holes in it, doesn't that make it a plastic stick? :confused:

:p:

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:26 PM
that was unreal

Reds Nd2
06-29-2005, 09:26 PM
:p:

:laugh:

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:27 PM
http://www.straw-machines-jumbo.com/images/straw-making-machine_24.jpg

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:27 PM
George showing his true colors by sucking up to the Cardinals in their little ceremony.

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:29 PM
Ricky Stone may be from Hamilton, but he's no Joe Nuxhall!

WMR
06-29-2005, 09:29 PM
What did he say, Big Klu?

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:29 PM
I wonder if he calls Steel, Ralphie my boy

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:30 PM
Hey Reds Nd2, why are you not a "real fan"?

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:31 PM
another dano acquisition at work

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 09:31 PM
Ricky Stone can go, anytime...

RFS62
06-29-2005, 09:31 PM
Boy, that Reggie, he really likes it when we come to town.

CTA513
06-29-2005, 09:31 PM
The Reds need to dump Stone... people are batting over .380 against him.
Im sure theres some pitchers in the minors who could do a better job.

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:31 PM
7-2 on a Sanders home run.

At least Sanders is on one of my fantasy teams. :dunno:

Reds Nd2
06-29-2005, 09:31 PM
Hey Reds Nd2, why are you not a "real fan"?

Because I made Graves feel small once by booing him.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 09:32 PM
Narron...are you sure you want that "fair shot" with THIS team?

You're wasting your time

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:32 PM
Because I made Graves feel small once by booing him.

BOOOOOOO DANNY GRAVES!!!!!!!!

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:32 PM
Boy, that Reggie, he really likes it when we come to town.
Imagine Dunn seeing our pitching 20 times a year.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:32 PM
Boy, that Reggie, he really likes it when we come to town.Reggie has always feasted on bad pitching. The Reds just happen to be awash with it

jmcclain19
06-29-2005, 09:33 PM
You really want to know?

http://www.forums.mlb.com/ml-reds

You see average.

I see threads like this

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ml-reds&msg=20880.1&ctx=0

As solid gold baby :thumbup:

Kc61
06-29-2005, 09:33 PM
I really can understand why there's no room for Booker on this team.

CTA513
06-29-2005, 09:33 PM
Stone should stay in and do mop up work, thats about all hes good for.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:33 PM
The Reds need to dump Stone... people are batting over .380 against him.
Im sure theres some pitchers in the minors who could do a better job.he must be better than Booker

RFS62
06-29-2005, 09:33 PM
Imagine Dunn seeing our pitching 20 times a year.


No kidding. We're second in MLB in hitting, and we don't even get to face the Reds pitchers (using term loosly).

red-in-la
06-29-2005, 09:34 PM
The Reds need to dump Stone... people are batting over .380 against him.
Im sure theres some pitchers in the minors who could do a better job.

Would one of them be named Booker?

Tony Cloninger
06-29-2005, 09:34 PM
Rickey Stone.........kinda like watching Artrell Hawkins playing CB for the Bengals.

Have to have a bengals/reds analogy every night for this mess.


RS makes Joe Hoerner look like Steve Carlton.

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:34 PM
Because I made Graves feel small once by booing him.

Ooohh, I see.

I didn't boo him, but I did laugh while everyone else was booing him. Don't know what kind of fan that makes me. :)

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 09:34 PM
Rickey Stone.........kinda like watching Artrell Hawkins playing CB for the Bengals.

Have to have a bengals/reds analogy every night for this mess.




The similarities are staggering.

Can Marvin manage baseball?

CTA513
06-29-2005, 09:34 PM
Would one of them be named Booker?

It would be anyone not named Ricky Stone.

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 09:35 PM
The Reds have seven pitchers on the roster sporting an ERA of 5.49 or higher. :laugh:

Raisor
06-29-2005, 09:35 PM
No, actually that was last week.

So, your question was valid.


:p:


Now wait one darn minute!

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:35 PM
I would prefer Sharon Stone on this team....

CTA513
06-29-2005, 09:35 PM
The similarities are staggering.

Can Marvin manage baseball?

He can work miracles, but I dont think he can turn poop in to gold.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 09:36 PM
The Reds have seven pitchers on the roster sporting an ERA of 5.49 or higher. :laugh:

Yet they continue to be part of this club....and used :bang:

RFS62
06-29-2005, 09:36 PM
I know this is a radical observation, but I'm thinking that we really suck.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:36 PM
Medlock pitched 5 more shutout innings tonight. 3 hits and 2Ks in his stint

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:36 PM
The Reds have seven pitchers on the roster sporting an ERA of 5.49 or higher. :laugh:

No worries, Vern Ruhle can work miracles!

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 09:36 PM
He can work miracles, but I dont think he can turn poop in to gold.

True...even he had to unclog the toilet before he could make it flush...

MWM
06-29-2005, 09:37 PM
Yet they continue to be part of this club....and used :bang:

They want to see what Narron can do with them. ;)

Kc61
06-29-2005, 09:37 PM
Ever get the feeling you spend half your free time watching the Cardinals bash the Reds heads in?

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:37 PM
No worries, Vern Ruhle can work miracles!like make them disappear

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:38 PM
I know this is a radical observation, but I'm thinking that we really suck.

Nah, we're just trying out best to get the No. 1 draft pick next year. It's part of DanO's rebuilding plan.

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:38 PM
What did he say, Big Klu?

There you go...

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:38 PM
George does the number well.

jmcclain19
06-29-2005, 09:39 PM
I know this is a radical observation, but I'm thinking that we really suck.

http://www-project.slac.stanford.edu/todtw/1995/SKILL032.gif

Reds Nd2
06-29-2005, 09:39 PM
Ooohh, I see.

I didn't boo him, but I did laugh while everyone else was booing him. Don't know what kind of fan that makes me. :)

Big Klu made me do it. :)

Nah, I don't recall ever booing him at a game but I have have been known to throw things and use words that would get me banned from the board whenever Graves would pitch. Graves made a comment about the fans who were booing weren't real fans or something like that. So I aded that. I've been going to change it since Graves is no longer here, just don't have any idea what to change it to.

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 09:39 PM
No worries, Vern Ruhle can work miracles!

http://www.henryplayers.com/Miracle%20Worker%20Logo.gif

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:40 PM
What does it say about us that we continue to sit here and watch this night after night? :(

CTA513
06-29-2005, 09:41 PM
What does it say about us that we continue to sit here and watch this night after night? :(

That we are really the most loyal fans in baseball?

:evil:

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:41 PM
What does it say about us that we continue to sit here and watch this night after night? :(
What else is there to do? ;)

Newport Red
06-29-2005, 09:42 PM
Nah, we're just trying out best to get the No. 1 draft pick next year. It's part of DanO's rebuilding plan.

Post All Star break, the No. 1 pick will be the most popular thread.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:42 PM
What does it say about us that we continue to sit here and watch this night after night? :(we're stupid and have no life

jmcclain19
06-29-2005, 09:43 PM
What does it say about us that we continue to sit here and watch this night after night? :(

We enjoy being punished?? :confused: :confused:

http://www.bling-bling-bling.com/BBB.COM_DOMINATRIX_S-L60.jpg

Reds Nd2
06-29-2005, 09:44 PM
What does it say about us that we continue to sit here and watch this night after night? :(

Grande isn't the only one with man-love for Edmonds?

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:45 PM
My cat won't even watch the Reds right now.

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:45 PM
I umm..don't have any man love for the Cards

Thanks

Love,Krono

jmcclain19
06-29-2005, 09:46 PM
Grande isn't the only one with man-love for Edmonds?

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/cin/images/Grande_mug.jpg

http://www.schools.pinellas.k12.fl.us/gallery/variety/Heart.gif

http://www.thediamondangle.com/archive/june02/cards/card18.jpg

pedro
06-29-2005, 09:47 PM
It's time to burn this mutha down.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:47 PM
We enjoy being punished?? :confused: :confused:

http://www.bling-bling-bling.com/BBB.COM_DOMINATRIX_S-L60.jpgwe've been naughty

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:47 PM
I don't have any man love for any of the Cards either.

:)

OnBaseMachine
06-29-2005, 09:48 PM
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/fullsize/9944.jpg Encarnacion needs one of these to pick the splinters out of his butt. It's ridulous that he continues to waste away on the bench. Either play him or option him back to Louisville.

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 09:48 PM
I don't have any man love for any of the Cards either.

:)

I hope you don't have man-love for anyone :yikes:

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:48 PM
It's time to burn this mutha down.
Watch out
You might get what youíre after
Cool babies
Strange but not a stranger
Iím an ordinary guy
Burning down the house

Hold tight wait till the partyís over
Hold tight weíre in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house

Hereís your ticket pack your bag: time for jumpiní overboard
The transportation is here
Close enough but not too far, maybe you know where you are
Fightiní fire with fire

All wet
Hey you might need a raincoat
Shakedown
Dreams walking in broad daylight
Three hun-dred six-ty five de-grees
Burning down the house

It was once upon a place sometimes I listen to myself
Gonna come in first place
People on their way to work baby what did you except
Gonna burst into flame

My house
Síout of the ordinary
Thatís might
Donít want to hurt nobody
Some things sure can sweep me off my feet
Burning down the house

No visible means of support and you have not seen nuthiní yet
Everythingís stuck together
I donít know what you expect starring into the tv set
Fighting fire with fire

Big Klu
06-29-2005, 09:48 PM
I don't give a rat's...ahem...well, you know, about George and his little lovefest with the Cardinals and "turning the number"! :angry:

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:49 PM
I think we can beat the Astros

:D

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:49 PM
anyone know what opposing pitchers are hitting off the Reds this year?

Puffy
06-29-2005, 09:50 PM
Can Marvin manage baseball?

Nuc Tun nun click han.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/916060/ep_109_starvinmarvin.gif

KronoRed
06-29-2005, 09:51 PM
Edmonds homers.

What is it? 14-2 now or something?

Matt700wlw
06-29-2005, 09:51 PM
That was predictable.

flyer85
06-29-2005, 09:51 PM
Watching Stone makes me wish I was ... Stoned(in a biblical sense)

LvJ
06-29-2005, 09:51 PM
Good thing about this outing is this is hopefully Stone's last major league appearence with the Reds.

jmcclain19
06-29-2005, 09:51 PM
HR - Jim Edmonds

Now 10-2 Cardinals

Anyone else get the sinking feeling the Reds are a one legged man in a butt kicking contest?

RosieRed
06-29-2005, 09:51 PM
Time to clue me in: Who's pitching for the Reds right now? Is it still Stone?

RFS62
06-29-2005, 09:51 PM
Please make it stop.