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Redny
06-30-2005, 04:49 PM
In tonights line-up per Marcs blog.

http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/spring/

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 04:50 PM
Wow..that sac fly was REALLY important :lol:

Marc D
06-30-2005, 04:50 PM
I believe hell just froze over.

The_jbh
06-30-2005, 04:53 PM
It's too good to be true... seriously....

I bet tonight rains out and tomorrow dunn is back at 6th

Red Leader
06-30-2005, 04:53 PM
Unbelievable.

Finally, the planets align.

Red Leader
06-30-2005, 04:54 PM
Watch him go 0-3 and they'll drop him to 7th tomorrow.

OnBaseMachine
06-30-2005, 04:54 PM
http://www.goodworksonearth.org/hellfrozeover.png

TRF
06-30-2005, 04:54 PM
i just made a poopy reading this.

The_jbh
06-30-2005, 04:55 PM
line up guesses if this actually happens?


SS FLo
LF Adam Dunn
CF Ken Griffey Jr
3B Joe Randa
1B Sean Casey
RF Wily Mo Pena
C Jason LaRue
2B Ray Olmedo

aurilia has to be out of the line up to not be in the 2 spot...

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 04:55 PM
My god...it took them almost 81 games, but they may have finally figured it out! :eek:

TRF
06-30-2005, 04:56 PM
FeLo
Dunn
Junior

Then I guess
Randa
Casey
WMP
Aurilia
LaRue

Blimpie
06-30-2005, 04:56 PM
Who's the celebrity guest manager for the night?

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 04:56 PM
Watch him go 0-3 and they'll drop him to 7th tomorrow.
Or hit 3 homeruns with nobody on and get put 3rd :D

Ok I'm being positive ;)

Johnny Footstool
06-30-2005, 04:56 PM
Dancing in the streets!

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 04:58 PM
I think there's a tear in my eye

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 05:00 PM
Party!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Kronosb/club1.gif

MWM
06-30-2005, 05:01 PM
I always thought Narron wouldn't move Dunn from his spot in the order because it might be viewed as a slap in the face to Miley considering that was one of the things he got so much grief for (Thanks to GAC :) ).

lollipopcurve
06-30-2005, 05:01 PM
A good thing. My guess is that Narron had to stick with the status quo to avoid ruffling feathers. Now that a week has passed and everyone is more comfortable, he can make changes. Where lineup construction and people management collide -- like it or not, that's a manager's world.

I'd also like to see Rey-Rey in there tonight.

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 05:03 PM
Only thing that would make it a perfect lineup is EE playing.

Joseph
06-30-2005, 05:04 PM
Unfreakinbelievable!

Fearless Prediction Sure to go Wrong™: Reds win 17 of the next 23 with new lineup.

SteelSD
06-30-2005, 05:04 PM
Ohhhh...<sniffles>

It's like I'm watching the birth of a newborn.

Coochie-coo, Narron...coochie-coo...

RosieRed
06-30-2005, 05:06 PM
Wow. :eek: I really never thought we'd see the day.

The_jbh
06-30-2005, 05:09 PM
i almost want to go to the game now

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 05:11 PM
i almost want to go to the game now

Why wouldn't you go? Biggio, Bagwell, and Berkman are great players, future hall of famers, and you should take advantage of the opportunity to see them play.

Oh yeah, and the Reds are in town too.

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 05:13 PM
The lineup I would love to see.

SS Lopez
LF Dunn
CF Griffey
RF Pena
1b Casey
3B EE
C LaRue
2B Olmedo

Joseph
06-30-2005, 05:13 PM
Bagwell's on the DL.

Clemens pitches Sunday though.

I bet Richie bats 3rd.

flyer85
06-30-2005, 05:17 PM
Ohhhh...<sniffles>

It's like I'm watching the birth of a newborn.

Coochie-coo, Narron...coochie-coo...Hopefully it doesn't die by tomorrow.

The_jbh
06-30-2005, 05:18 PM
Why wouldn't you go? Biggio, Bagwell, and Berkman are great players, future hall of famers, and you should take advantage of the opportunity to see them play.

Oh yeah, and the Reds are in town too.

because ive allready paid for 4 games this month and it results in a high blood pressure. :bang:

ochre
06-30-2005, 05:22 PM
Why wouldn't you go? Biggio, Bagwell, and Berkman are great players, future hall of famers, and you should take advantage of the opportunity to see them play.

Dan?

smith288
06-30-2005, 05:25 PM
Im going to wake up in a minute and it will all be just a dream...

RFS62
06-30-2005, 05:25 PM
Uh, pitching

SteelSD
06-30-2005, 05:26 PM
Uh, pitching

Shhh...don't spoil it.

It's the little victories that are important right now.;)

RosieRed
06-30-2005, 05:28 PM
Uh, pitching

Can't we just have this one little moment before you start bringing us back to reality? :p:

WMR
06-30-2005, 05:29 PM
What are the pitching match-ups tonight?

pedro
06-30-2005, 05:30 PM
What are the pitching match-ups tonight?

Milton Vs. Backe

I bet Backe goes 2-3 with a double.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 05:31 PM
What are the pitching match-ups tonight?

Backe vs. Milton

Houston Series (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/probable_pitchers.jsp?c_id=cin)

pedro
06-30-2005, 05:31 PM
BTW - Griffey is 4 for 6 off of Backe lifetime with 2 doubles and a homer.

guttle11
06-30-2005, 05:32 PM
You know what this means...

Dunn is only one spot away from the Bob Boone leadoff spot. :bang:

Has Narron lost his mind??? :runaway:

Cool

Tony Cloninger
06-30-2005, 05:40 PM
HOW will you react if FELO sits (just for the sake of an off day) and RA bats leadoff.......while RO plays SS?

pedro
06-30-2005, 05:49 PM
HOW will you react if FELO sits (just for the sake of an off day) and RA bats leadoff.......while RO plays SS?

Probably not well, but it is interesting to note that that's the way Bobby Cox usually handles it. He seems to like to give a player a slot in the lineup and keep them there.

TeamBoone
06-30-2005, 05:49 PM
A good thing. My guess is that Narron had to stick with the status quo to avoid ruffling feathers. Now that a week has passed and everyone is more comfortable, he can make changes.

:confused: This makes absolutely no sense to me.

He replaced Miley because "they" didn't like his results... so why would it be deemed such a horrible thing if Narron did things differently?

NJReds
06-30-2005, 05:50 PM
Dunn is only one spot away from the Bob Boone leadoff spot. :bang:



Batting Dunn leadoff is smarter then batting him 7th...

pedro
06-30-2005, 05:51 PM
:confused: This makes absolutely no sense to me.

He replaced Miley because "they" didn't like his results... so why would it be deemed such a horrible thing if Narron did things differently?

I only think it makes sense in the possible context that DanO has been making out the lineup card and Narron has convinced him to loosen his handcuffs a little. Who knows?

CTA513
06-30-2005, 05:57 PM
I dont see a problem with this. Dunn walks a ton, so if he gets on he will actually have someone to hit him in, and not have Larue or Romano batting behind him.

lollipopcurve
06-30-2005, 05:58 PM
He replaced Miley because "they" didn't like his results... so why would it be deemed such a horrible thing if Narron did things differently?

A manager has to worry about his relationship with his players just as much, if not more, than his relationship with the GM. In this case, Narron knows he's OK with O'Brien. He needs to establish that he's at least reasonably OK with the clubhouse, too. So, he doesn't start right out demoting Aurilia (or Casey, or whomever). It keeps the focus on the team (and the manager), rather than spotlighting potentially hacked off players, during the sensitive first few days of the transition. I think it's wise, but that's just me.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 05:59 PM
I dont see a problem with this. Dunn walks a ton, so if he gets on he will actually have someone to hit him in, and not have Larue or Romano batting behind him.

Don't see a problem with it? This move has been awaited with child-like anticipation since Dunn came up.

CTA513
06-30-2005, 06:00 PM
Don't see a problem with it? This move has been awaited with child-like anticipation since Dunn came up.

*edit I read the posts wrong and thought people were upset.

:bang:

westofyou
06-30-2005, 06:08 PM
This makes absolutely no sense to me.

Outs are gold, Dunn makes fewer outs. Pitchers fear baserunners with legends and contact hitters coming up, it's a win win situation, Dunn either gets his hacks or gets on base with guys who can drive him in coming up.

This is a complimentary move, one that actually says.... hey we can't play small ball and win with our staff.

flyer85
06-30-2005, 06:10 PM
Over the last 3 games Dunn has not had even one of the TTO.

pedro
06-30-2005, 06:11 PM
Outs are gold, Dunn makes fewer outs. Pitchers fear baserunners with legends and contact hitters coming up, it's a win win situation, Dunn either gets his hacks or gets on base with guys who can drive him in coming up.

This is a complimentary move, one that actually says.... hey we can't play small ball and win with our staff.

TB was talking about the post she quoted, not the move of Dunn to the 2 Hole.

westofyou
06-30-2005, 06:16 PM
TB was talking about the post she quoted, not the move of Dunn to the 2 Hole.
Got cha.... anyway that's a canned response to any rip van winkles out there.

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 06:34 PM
Uh, pitching
Ban RFS :cool:

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 06:36 PM
The explanation behind the move:

"He's one of our better on-base percentage guys"


DUH!!!

SteelSD
06-30-2005, 06:39 PM
Ban RFS :cool:

RFS62 backwards is "owtskcisisesseffar".

Just sayin'.

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 06:41 PM
The explanation behind the move:

"He's one of our better on-base percentage guys"


DUH!!!
Has been for..I dunno..4 years now? ;)

pedro
06-30-2005, 06:42 PM
The explanation behind the move:

"He's one of our better on-base percentage guys"


DUH!!!

That's a revolutionary conclusion coming from this management.

What is this "on-base percentage" you speak of?

westofyou
06-30-2005, 06:43 PM
That's a revolutionary conclusion coming from this management.

What is this "on-base percentage" you speak of?

A new age in Reds baseball

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Rotary/Sikorsky_VS300/HE8G2.jpg

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 06:48 PM
I like that guys hat.

TeamBoone
06-30-2005, 06:49 PM
Outs are gold, Dunn makes fewer outs. Pitchers fear baserunners with legends and contact hitters coming up, it's a win win situation, Dunn either gets his hacks or gets on base with guys who can drive him in coming up.

This is a complimentary move, one that actually says.... hey we can't play small ball and win with our staff.

I didn't mean batting him in the two slot makes no sense to me; I was responding to the person I quoted.

SteelSD
06-30-2005, 06:54 PM
The explanation behind the move:

"He's one of our better on-base percentage guys"


DUH!!!

Ok. NOW I'm not buying it anymore.

They keep throwing Rich Aurila out there in the two slot and just now expect us to believe that they can as much as say "OBP" without slurring??

Uh-uh.

<crosses arms>

Nope. Not gonna get this guy. No way no how. Hrrrumph.

<draws imaginary line in sand with foot>

What's next? They gonna tell us that Felipe should make the All Star team because he has excellent RC/27 numbers? Nope. I refuse to purchase that product from guys who think that RC stands for cheap cola and that DIPs requires a chew cup.

Poseurs suck.

<hears Austin Kearns yell "Stop sucking!" in the background>

If things like "OBP" factor into things now, then I ask you- what's next? Where does it end??

Rock and roll music in the clubhouse?

Announcers who actually know what they're talking about?

Callups to players who can actually help based on performance instead of options?

Brad Kullman released from the iron maiden?

More focus on communication than chairs?

I MEAN REALLY! What kind of way is that to run a ballclub. Peturbed I am. Downright cranky. There is something most decidedly amiss and I am going to find out what it is.

<dons cowl and checks utility belt>

Bruce Wayne out.

CTA513
06-30-2005, 07:11 PM
Reds Astros
1. F Lopez, SS 1. W Taveras, CF
2. A Dunn, LF 2. C Biggio, 2B
3. J Randa, 3B 3. L Berkman, 1B
4. K Griffey Jr., CF 4. M Ensberg, 3B
5. S Casey, 1B 5. J Lane, RF
6. R Aurilia, 2B 6. A Everett, SS
7. W Pena, RF 7. C Burke, LF
8. J Valentin, C 8. R Chavez, C
9. E Milton, P 9. B Backe, P

Redny
06-30-2005, 07:14 PM
Interesting line-up. Once I saw Dunn was going to be second I figured Aurilia was going to be sitting. Rich might not like being in the sixth spot, I hope he doesn't get angry.

creek14
06-30-2005, 07:15 PM
Rich might not like being in the sixth spot, I hope he doesn't get angry.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/superheroes/images/hulk.jpg

WVRedsFan
06-30-2005, 07:16 PM
Oh, I see Pena's taken Adam's place. Rich batting that high? Rich playing? Randa third?

I don't think he's as progressive as some think. Rich must have pictures of everybody.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 07:16 PM
Interesting line-up. Once I saw Dunn was going to be second I figured Aurilia was going to be sitting. Rich might not like being in the sixth spot, I hope he doesn't get angry.

The Aurilia wants Narron out picketing starts tomorrow

CTA513
06-30-2005, 07:17 PM
Oh, I see Pena's taken Adam's place. Rich batting that high? Rich playing? Randa third?

I don't think he's as progressive as some think. Rich must have pictures of everybody.

He put up hidden video cameras in the Reds showers.

:devil:

creek14
06-30-2005, 07:18 PM
He put up hidden video cameras in the Reds showers.

:devil:
Oh no, now my secrets are going to be made public.

Ron Madden
06-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Interesting line-up. Once I saw Dunn was going to be second I figured Aurilia was going to be sitting. Rich might not like being in the sixth spot, I hope he doesn't get angry.

I'm angry whenever Rich is in the line up and hitting higher than the 7 hole.

Ravenlord
06-30-2005, 07:20 PM
why can't Olmedo get some playing time? at least he has range.

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 07:36 PM
No EE again.

I give this lineup a B-

Heath
06-30-2005, 07:40 PM
Over the last 3 games Dunn has not had even one of the TTO.

Hey, what ever Dunn does in his own time........ ;)

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 07:41 PM
Lots of thunder here near the ole ballpark

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 07:41 PM
It is raining like the dickens here on the west side. I give the lineup a U, for unlikely to happen.

Heath
06-30-2005, 07:54 PM
It is raining like the dickens here on the west side. I give the lineup a U, for unlikely to happen.


Conspiracy Theory -

Maybe someone checked the Weather Channel Radar when they printed out the lineup cards...... :rolleyes:

CTA513
06-30-2005, 07:56 PM
The rain probably wont last long, maybe 20-30 minutes.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 07:56 PM
Rain delay will start this night off...

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 07:59 PM
Should have knocked the arena down and put a retractable roof on the place

flyer85
06-30-2005, 08:01 PM
Narron said OBP

pedro
06-30-2005, 08:02 PM
Narron said OBP

hehe

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9605/13/hw.min/beavis.large.jpg

Caveat Emperor
06-30-2005, 08:15 PM
This game thread already rocks, and the game hasn't started yet.

Oh yeah...and as for the lineup, I say even a broken clock is right twice a day.

EDIT: I love that banana phone song. Long live the BP!

westofyou
06-30-2005, 08:16 PM
So what's the skinny on the delay ( I have the sound off) Pedro and I are going drinkin and we have to time this thing.

Falls City Beer
06-30-2005, 08:16 PM
I'll go out on a limb and say the Reds lose (rainout or not).

westofyou
06-30-2005, 08:18 PM
Hey FCB, I just found out the other day (whilst reading and old baseball book) that Falls City is what they call Louisville... color me surprised.

Falls City Beer
06-30-2005, 08:20 PM
Hey FCB, I just found out the other day (whilst reading and old baseball book) that Falls City is what they call Louisville... color me surprised.

True enough. It was, apparently, a bit of a problem for boat travel back in the day. UL is the alma mater (undergrad).

westofyou
06-30-2005, 08:23 PM
True enough. It was, apparently, a bit of a problem for boat travel back in the day. UL is the alma mater (undergrad).

Yeah I figured that with your unhealthy obsession with all things Wesley Cox.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-30-2005, 08:24 PM
What's the deal with this rain delay? The sun is shining in Montgomery with no hint of dark clouds -- except over the Reds FO

Falls City Beer
06-30-2005, 08:26 PM
Yeah I figured that with your unhealthy obsession with all things Wesley Cox.

Ever had that effervescent mead? Pure bilge water. See if they have it at that fancypants bar you and San Peedro are going to tonight. ;)

RosieRed
06-30-2005, 08:37 PM
What's the deal with this rain delay? The sun is shining in Montgomery with no hint of dark clouds -- except over the Reds FO

I'm five blocks fromt he stadium right now, and it is POURING here. I can't even see Kentucky right now.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-30-2005, 08:39 PM
Marty said on the radio that in the three years that GABP has been open, he has never seen as much standing water on the field as there is now.

That's probably not a good thing.

LvJ
06-30-2005, 08:42 PM
The rain was friggin crazy here. :runaway: Power and all went out. I took a nap. :dunno:

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 08:43 PM
Marty said on the radio that in the three years that GABP has been open, he has never seen as much standing water on the field as there is now.

That's probably not a good thing.

I guess another day for Griffey to recover from the flu bug can be a good thing. what are the repercussions for the lineup if he gets pulled?

My guess:

Felo
Dunn
Randa
Casey
Mo Pain
Aurilia
Valentin
Corky
Milty

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 08:45 PM
I'm five blocks fromt he stadium right now, and it is POURING here. I can't even see Kentucky right now.
We can't see you either :help:

Really big hail outside now...I should probably not be on the computer :help:

red-in-la
06-30-2005, 08:48 PM
The Day After Tomorrow?

TeamCasey
06-30-2005, 08:48 PM
Wicked thunder and lightning here in Clermont County (East of Cincy). It's moving off though. They'll get it in.

westofyou
06-30-2005, 08:50 PM
The Reds in the late 20's instituted their promise to try and play no matter what, hence they have the best record for getting games in.

It's a by-product of being too cheap to cancel a game.

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 08:51 PM
It's kinda cool when your little town is on Channel 5 under a big red blob :runawaycr

Falls City Beer
06-30-2005, 08:53 PM
The Reds in the late 20's instituted their promise to try and play no matter what, hence they have the best record for getting games in.

It's a by-product of being too cheap to cancel a game.

We used to play sandlot baseball in the most torrential of downpours. An out was made by hitting the runner with the ball.

RFS62
06-30-2005, 08:54 PM
See, this is what happens when they put Dunn in the two spot.

Now Narron can say he tried it, and it angered the Gods.

RosieRed
06-30-2005, 08:54 PM
Seems to be clearing up down here now. I can see Kentucky again! Hi Krono! :wave:

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 09:01 PM
It's over here on the best side, any news of when the game will start?

Edskin
06-30-2005, 09:03 PM
Q: How do you know you are the fan of a horrid baseball team?

A: A change in the batting order sparks World-Seriesesque celebrations from you and your fellow fans.

Good Lord.

westofyou
06-30-2005, 09:04 PM
Q: How do you know you are the fan of a horrid baseball team?

I don't know maybe you know who the Caviliers drafted 5th?

Red Leader
06-30-2005, 09:04 PM
They just came on FSN (George and Chris) and said that the rain had stopped. They showed the field and there are large puddles in both OF corners. I'm guessing they're still 30-45 minutes away from starting....or 3-4 beers.

Falls City Beer
06-30-2005, 09:06 PM
They just came on FSN (George and Chris) and said that the rain had stopped. They showed the field and there are large puddles in both OF corners. I'm guessing they're still 30-45 minutes away from starting....or 3-4 beers.

Hey, it's Grande: "Make mine O'Douls, please...with a squirt of vanilla."

Edskin
06-30-2005, 09:08 PM
Actually, WOY, the Cavs were w/o a draft pick this because of their mind-numbingly stupid trade last year for Jiri Welsch.

But they did manage to trade Welsch for a 2nd round pick in 2006 and then turned around and traded that pick to the Magic for Martynas Andriuskevicius-- a young 7'3 Lithuanian.

Does that answer your question? :)

RFS62
06-30-2005, 09:11 PM
I'll bet it was the most important mind-numbingly stupid trade of the year.

:)

CTA513
06-30-2005, 09:11 PM
They just came on FSN (George and Chris) and said that the rain had stopped. They showed the field and there are large puddles in both OF corners. I'm guessing they're still 30-45 minutes away from starting....or 3-4 beers.

Thats if they get the water off the field, if they cant then Id say the game would be called.

Falls City Beer
06-30-2005, 09:12 PM
http://www.jiggscasey.com/images/movies/bloodsport-ogre.jpg

I feel this adds something to the thread and I'm not sure why.

Red Leader
06-30-2005, 09:14 PM
Thats if they get the water off the field, if they cant then Id say the game would be called.

Milton's probably in the bullpen warming up.

He sucks.

Water should be gone in 30-45 minutes. :laugh:

westofyou
06-30-2005, 09:16 PM
Jiri Welsch

Nice Hockey name for a basketball player.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-30-2005, 09:19 PM
Right now John Allen is contemplating which scenario will suck more money out of fans:

• Calling the game tonight (but in another 45 minutes or so) due to excessive water on the field. A Friday twi-night doubleheader is a rarity in Cincinnati and could fool an additional 5,000 people to buy tickets for tomorrow night when there should be more people in town for the start of the 4th of July weekend.

• Play tonight's game but don't start it until at least 9 p.m., forcing fans to spend money at concession stands and souvenir shops to pass the time.

Any effect that either decision may have on the pitching staff or player safety is irrelevant.

Falls City Beer
06-30-2005, 09:19 PM
http://austinwm.club.fr/HTLM/Photos/Z/Zeus/Zeus_-_Tom_Lister_Jr_04.jpg

Your starting pitchers.

Edskin
06-30-2005, 09:24 PM
OK, game has started:

Top 1st:

--Craig Biggio reaches on throwing error by F. Lopez (Biggio to second)
--Biggio advances to third as Reds are unable to return the ball to the mound in timely manner
--Ump goes ahead and waves Biggio home because "he's gonna score anyway!" No one argues.
--Willy Taveras Homers to left.
--Morgan Ensberg Homers to right.
--Lance Berkman Homers to Kentucky.
--Jerry Narron pleads to ump to please end the inning or else "we both know we'll be here all night." Ump agrees.

4-0 Astros

Bottom of first:

--Felipe Lopez triples to center
--Rich Aurilia grounds softly to SS-- on his way back to the dugout he complains that he wasn't giving sufficient notice prior to being inserted into the line-up. DanO begins work on new four year deal with RA.
--Sean Casey pops out on first pitch.
--Ken Griffey Junior vomits upon entering the batter's box. Assuming he's still sick, the trainer's rush to his aide. But he tells them that he feels fine-- he just caught a glimpse of Ricky Stone warming up in the bullpen. He's removed from the game for precautionary reasons.
--Wily Mo Pena enters the game and gets ahead 3-0 in the count. The next pitch lands six feet in front of the plate-- swing and miss. The next pitch somehow lands in the Astros dugout--swing and miss. The next pitch is rolled to the plate, pro bowler style-- swing and miss.

Inning Over

TeamBoone
06-30-2005, 09:27 PM
"I've been thinking about it a long while, really," Narron said. "We've all talked about it. Dunn gets on base. Casey drives in runs when guys are on base. Randa's going to get on base."

And with the Reds averaging 3.5 runs over the course of a four-game losing streak, Narron decided to put his thoughts to use.

Don't be kiddin' me! You've been reading Redszone Mr. Narron!

CTA513
06-30-2005, 09:35 PM
They just did an update on FSN and said that the Umps want to get the game in tonight. Right now they are working to get all the water off the field, and they said it would probably be about an hour before the game starts.

Joseph
06-30-2005, 09:40 PM
Don't be kiddin' me! You've been reading Redszone Mr. Narron!

Lance took credit for it on his show this afternoon. Said apparently Narron had been listening to the show.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 09:41 PM
I'm being told it looks like a start of 9:05

CTA513
06-30-2005, 09:44 PM
I'm being told it looks like a start of 9:05

9:05??? boo! why not 9:07?

;)

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 09:45 PM
Seems to be clearing up down here now. I can see Kentucky again! Hi Krono! :wave:
Hi Rosie :wave:

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 09:46 PM
9:05??? boo! why not 9:07?

;)

I'm just glad they're playing...I don't need to sit through 18 innings of this tomorrow... :)

Ron Madden
06-30-2005, 09:50 PM
I'll be glad when the games starts, Andy Furman is killin me. :bang:

CTA513
06-30-2005, 09:52 PM
This has to be the longest game thread with out the game actually starting.

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 09:53 PM
This has to be the longest game thread with out the game actually starting.
5 pages of no game, I say..3 of real game? ;)

flyer85
06-30-2005, 09:54 PM
I'll be glad when the games starts, Andy Furman is killin me. :bang: :laugh:

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 09:55 PM
This has to be the longest game thread with out the game actually starting.

Rockies have loaded the bases with one out in the 3rd. They lead 2-0 over the Cards.

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 09:58 PM
Suppan walks in a run. Rockies 3-0 now.

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 10:01 PM
5-4-3 DP, the excitment is over. Rockies 3 Cards 0

Joseph
06-30-2005, 10:01 PM
To quote my all time favorite basketball team and their pregame ritual:

"What time is it?"

"Gametime! Woo!"

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 10:02 PM
HEY! I've got Grande on MLB.TV. tonight.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:02 PM
This has to be the longest game thread with out the game actually starting.

There's a game?

GAC
06-30-2005, 10:04 PM
Good to see this lineup.

Now the bad news. Game is starting and Milton is heading out to the mound. :lol:

flyer85
06-30-2005, 10:11 PM
is it just me or has Milton dropped his arm angle a little

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:11 PM
Milton with a 1-2-3 inning with 2 K's

Heath
06-30-2005, 10:11 PM
And that's the end of the Chiquita Banaphone......

Aronchis
06-30-2005, 10:11 PM
Milton with a dominent inning.

flyer85
06-30-2005, 10:12 PM
HEY! I've got Grande on MLB.TV. tonight.condolences

CTA513
06-30-2005, 10:12 PM
is it just me or has Milton dropped his arm angle a little

Im not sure what he did but he kept the ball down alot better than his past starts.

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 10:13 PM
Milton will throw a no hitter.

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 10:13 PM
condolences

At least someone feels my pain. :laugh:

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:14 PM
Lopez leads off with a hit.

RBA
06-30-2005, 10:14 PM
Milton will throw a no hitter.

SELL!

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 10:14 PM
Milton will throw a no hitter.

Not now he won't.

LvJ
06-30-2005, 10:14 PM
I understood, but really really disagreed with Aurilia hitting 2nd. BUT, I REALLY do not understand nor do I see any logic as to why he's hitting ahead of Pena?

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:14 PM
Milton will throw a no hitter.

A 2 hour rain delay in sept. of 1988 was worth the wait when Tom Browning came out and pitched a perfect game.

Just sayin'


:)

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 10:15 PM
Not now he won't.
I'm good luck :cool:

KronoRed
06-30-2005, 10:15 PM
Matt, that is JUST what I was thinking when I made the post :D

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 10:15 PM
Grande just said OBPfactor.

guttle11
06-30-2005, 10:16 PM
boy howdy, this is a good storm here in the WC

OnBaseMachine
06-30-2005, 10:16 PM
Dunn is 0 for 11 with a walk vs Backe.

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:17 PM
Dunn walks. 1st and 2nd with no outs.

CrackerJack
06-30-2005, 10:18 PM
2 on, no out, that Narron is a genius putting Dunn at #2 I tell you.

flyer85
06-30-2005, 10:18 PM
the mad hacker would never have done that

Raisor
06-30-2005, 10:18 PM
I log on and the whole world has gone crazy. Dunn hitting 2nd, Casey 5th!

SWEET FANCY MOSES!

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:18 PM
Wasn't it Bob Boone who batted Dunn leadoff at one point?

OnBaseMachine
06-30-2005, 10:19 PM
Dunn with a 8 pitch walk. That, along with his OBP, is why he should bat 2nd.

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 10:19 PM
I'm good luck :cool:

You better hope so. I'll neg you for jinxing the no hitter. :)

TRF
06-30-2005, 10:19 PM
I log on and the whole world has gone crazy. Dunn hitting 2nd, Casey 5th!

SWEET FANCY MOSES!

And Milton with a 10 pitch 2 K inning!

CrackerJack
06-30-2005, 10:19 PM
Now if we can just get Wily in at clean-up (Jr 3rd).

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:20 PM
Now if we can just get Wily in at clean-up

Nah. Don't move Junior.

flyer85
06-30-2005, 10:20 PM
Joe forgot to play small ball

Patrick Bateman
06-30-2005, 10:21 PM
Welsh describes Dunn as one of the majors worst hitters with RISP.

His .863 OPS suggests otherwise.

flyer85
06-30-2005, 10:21 PM
Backe is a nibbler. Be patient

creek14
06-30-2005, 10:21 PM
New drinking game.

Everytime Backe adjusts himself everyone has to drink a shot.

We'll all be sloshed by the second inning.

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 10:22 PM
Griffey recovering from the flu combined with a water logged field. I'm thinking Jr. should have sit tonight.

flyer85
06-30-2005, 10:22 PM
at least sean can't GIDP

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:25 PM
Reds blow that scoring chance as Randa strikes out, Junior pops out and Randa flies out.

Kc61
06-30-2005, 10:27 PM
Maybe next game Dunn can hit second and fifth.

CTA513
06-30-2005, 10:27 PM
Reds blow that scoring chance as Randa strikes out, Junior pops out and Randa flies out.

Randa batted twice?

:eek:

;)

Patrick Bateman
06-30-2005, 10:27 PM
Reds blow that scoring chance as Randa strikes out, Junior pops out and Randa flies out.

Normally if a batter makes the first and last outs in an inning, it's a good thing. :laugh:

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:28 PM
Randa batted twice?

:eek:

;)
Sorry the rain delay has affected my brain. Casey flew out.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:28 PM
how is Milton's speed? Did the lower arm angle solve the mystery?

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:29 PM
There goes Krono's no hitter.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:29 PM
Reds blow that scoring chance as Randa strikes out, Junior pops out and Randa flies out.

I thought moving Dunn to second was supposed to solve all the offense problems? :mooner: :p: :D

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:30 PM
Out of curiosity, did they put the shift on Griff with Lopez on second? If so, seems like that is a perfect SB opp.

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:30 PM
3 K's for Milton.

creek14
06-30-2005, 10:31 PM
how is Milton's speed? Did the lower arm angle solve the mystery?
He's hit the (very) low 90's a couple times.

creek14
06-30-2005, 10:32 PM
WMP and Lopez both have brain farts.

RedFanAlways1966
06-30-2005, 10:32 PM
Felipe... where are you?

creek14
06-30-2005, 10:33 PM
Holy Moly, anyone else in Dayton getting hit by that hurricane that just settled over Beavercreek?

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:34 PM
Milton walks Burke. Bases loaded with one out.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:34 PM
Milton getting into trouble...

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:35 PM
Holy Moly, anyone else in Dayton getting hit by that hurricane that just settled over Beavercreek? Were getting very heavy storms in Piqua.

RedFanAlways1966
06-30-2005, 10:35 PM
Holy Moly, anyone else in Dayton getting hit by that hurricane that just settled over Beavercreek?

Just got us in Oakwood. Some serious thunder and lightning!

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:36 PM
Backe doubles in 2 runs. 2-0 Astros.

TRF
06-30-2005, 10:37 PM
ok things are back to normal now.

creek14
06-30-2005, 10:37 PM
Just got us in Oakwood. Some serious thunder and lightning!
The wind here is getting as frightning as Milton's pitching. I think I'm out for a while. Go Reds.

Patrick Bateman
06-30-2005, 10:37 PM
YOu can't make a struggling pitcher get 4-5 outs an inning.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:37 PM
A 2 hour rain delay in sept. of 1988 was worth the wait when Tom Browning came out and pitched a perfect game.

Just sayin'


:)

..of course that was a long long time ago...

RedFanAlways1966
06-30-2005, 10:37 PM
No HRs... good Eric.
Basesloaded 2-out double to the pitcher... bad Eric.

Aronchis
06-30-2005, 10:37 PM
and once again I ask, what if Milton's velocity was topping out at 94 instead of 91, you could lop 3 points off his ERA.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:40 PM
No HRs... good Eric.
Basesloaded 2-out double to the pitcher... bad Eric.

No real hard hit fly balls either.

Question: If Ruhle turns Milton around, what do you do?

Keep him, because he will be worth his contract.
Trade him, even if you can't get full value or have to pay some of his salary.
Fire Ruhle, how could he dare do such a thing.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:42 PM
As hideous as the bottom of the order looks, I have a weird feeling it will be responsible for most of the runs tonight.

And Aurilia walks to lead off the second, who says he has no OBP skills? :D

Kc61
06-30-2005, 10:43 PM
YOu can't make a struggling pitcher get 4-5 outs an inning.

Thank you. The outfield defense costs runs just about every game now. Reds have a lot of outfield talent, very little of it defensive.

SteelSD
06-30-2005, 10:43 PM
Aurilia channels Dunn in the 5-slot and Walks.

Wily Mo up.

OnBaseMachine
06-30-2005, 10:43 PM
Trade him. He is overpaid..even if he returns to his career norms, which I don't see him doing.

Heath
06-30-2005, 10:45 PM
Holy Moly, anyone else in Dayton getting hit by that hurricane that just settled over Beavercreek?

NW Montgomery all present and accounted for

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:45 PM
Pena walks. 1st and 2nd with no outs.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:46 PM
Pena and Aurilia walk, Dunn hits second, Bizarro world.

OnBaseMachine
06-30-2005, 10:46 PM
Wow! Aurilia and Pena walk back-to-back. Never thought I would see that!

flyer85
06-30-2005, 10:46 PM
like i said ... backe is a nibbler

Patrick Bateman
06-30-2005, 10:46 PM
Back to back walks to Aurilla and Pena.

What would have the Vegas odds have been?

Heath
06-30-2005, 10:46 PM
BTW - Grande said about Aurilia - He has no rhyme or reason................

:D :thumbup: :p:

OnBaseMachine
06-30-2005, 10:48 PM
Javy Valentin 15 walks/16 strikeouts 83 atbats.

.265/.370/.458

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 10:49 PM
Question: If Ruhle turns Milton around, what do you do?

Give Ruhle his old job back as pitching coordinator in the minors. If he can indeed turn Milton around, just think what he could do with the youngsters on the farm.

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:49 PM
Valentin flies out. Aurilia goes to 3rd. 1st and 3rd with one out.

Heath
06-30-2005, 10:50 PM
http://www.weather.com/weather/map/45202

if anyone cares....

it might be a long nighter

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:51 PM
Milton makes 2 horrible bunt attempts and then strikes out.

RedFanAlways1966
06-30-2005, 10:51 PM
Milton is a HR hitter, not a bunter. And he shows the no-bunt reasons. 3 attempts... 2 fouls and a miss on a ball in the dirt.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:51 PM
What an awful at bat....

...why can't this team lay down a bunt?

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:52 PM
small ball, Milton style.

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:53 PM
Lopez walks. Bases loaded for Dunn.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:54 PM
Lopez walks, you have to love this kid. Dunn up with bases loaded and two outs, wiht fireworks whistling in my back yard.

Kc61
06-30-2005, 10:54 PM
Still trying to figure out why Milton was bunting. Not a bad hitting pitcher, first and third. Don't get it.

RedFanAlways1966
06-30-2005, 10:55 PM
I wonder if bunting Milton w/ 2 strikes is smart? A flyball could score a run. The game is early. A strikeout is probable all the same, but...

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:55 PM
Dunn has only OPSd 1.022 at home, and 1.028 against RH, look for nothing much here.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 10:56 PM
Just remember, walks dont score runs! :D

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 10:56 PM
If this game moves any slower, it's going to turn into a double-header... :help:

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:57 PM
Dunn walks in a run. 2-1.

CrackerJack
06-30-2005, 10:57 PM
that was a good pitch to walk Dunn

RedFanAlways1966
06-30-2005, 10:57 PM
Just remember, walks dont score runs! :D

Yep... wait! 2-1 game on a walk to Dunn.

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 10:59 PM
Randa strikes out. 2-1 Astros after 2.

Aronchis
06-30-2005, 10:59 PM
Randa, whew man.

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 11:00 PM
I Puffy Dunn batting second, if he would have hit the balls that were no where near the strike zone instead of just walking in a run, the Reds would be up 7-0 right now.

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 11:01 PM
So much for Dunn getting better pitches to hit higher in the order.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 11:02 PM
So much for Dunn getting better pitches to hit higher in the order.

True. But he was productive with a runner on third. :D

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 11:03 PM
True. But he was productive with a runner on third. :D

No doubt. :)

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 11:05 PM
1-2-3 inning for Milton. 2-1 Astros mid 3rd.

Marc D
06-30-2005, 11:05 PM
Everyone say it with me one more time....

Freel
Lopez
Dunn
Pena
Griffey
Casey
Randa
LaRue
pitcher......

Maybe if we set it to music and turn it into a hooked on phonics type thing it would be easier for the Reds braintrust to comprehend.

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 11:06 PM
Does anyone know if Krono made through the storm ok?

DoogMinAmo
06-30-2005, 11:06 PM
Everyone say it with me one more time....

Freel
Lopez
Dunn
Pena
Griffey
Casey
Randa
LaRue
pitcher......

Maybe if we set it to music and turn it into a hooked on phonics type thing it would be easier for the Reds braintrust to comprehend.

So where do you put Eddie E? 8th?

Patrick Bateman
06-30-2005, 11:07 PM
Everyone say it with me one more time....

Freel
Lopez
Dunn
Pena
Griffey
Casey
Randa
LaRue
pitcher......

Maybe if we set it to music and turn it into a hooked on phonics type thing it would be easier for the Reds braintrust to comprehend.

Flip Griffey and Pena.

Aronchis
06-30-2005, 11:09 PM
Sean Casey needs to eat some Scooby snacks to gain some strength.

Heath
06-30-2005, 11:10 PM
Does anyone know if Krono made through the storm ok?

hope so - hate for his posts per day to drop below 40.... :eek: :thumbup:

creek14 should be building an ark right now...

BoydsOfSummer
06-30-2005, 11:11 PM
Was listening to Marty in the car earlier and he said, "Dunn is not a run producer".

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 11:11 PM
Aurilia walks. 1st and 2nd with one out.

flyer85
06-30-2005, 11:12 PM
what is it with first pitch popouts

Marc D
06-30-2005, 11:12 PM
So where do you put Eddie E? 8th?

Looks like he replaces Randa just fine to me.


Also I broke up Pena and Giffey for the whole Lefty Righty thing, I can live with the flip.

Biggest point is to start doing it along the lines of OPS not BA

flyer85
06-30-2005, 11:13 PM
at least make him throw one strike Javy

Tony Cloninger
06-30-2005, 11:14 PM
Going back to that Randa AB......... GG makes an excuse for him for guessing on the first pitch after back-to-back walks. Does he ever say anything negative (when it is deserved) about anyone??

JR has been the only hitter that Backe has been able to fool.....and it figures it would happen with runners all over the place.

Reds Fanatic
06-30-2005, 11:15 PM
Valentin grounds out. 2-1 Astros after 3. Reds have left 7 runners on base.

traderumor
06-30-2005, 11:15 PM
Backe gets my vote for the Trachsel Award. That dude is slooooooooooowwwwwwww

Patrick Bateman
06-30-2005, 11:17 PM
Also I broke up Pena and Giffey for the whole Lefty Righty thing, I can live with the flip.



But then you have Griffey and Casey back to back. With our lineup, you pretty much have to have 2 LH hitters in a row somewhere.

Heath
06-30-2005, 11:18 PM
AFLAC trivia - who hit the first HR in Riverfront History.....

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 11:19 PM
AFLAC trivia - who hit the first HR in Riverfront History.....

Tommy Helms...

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 11:19 PM
hope so - hate for his posts per day to drop below 40.... :eek: :thumbup:

creek14 should be building an ark right now...

Just want to make sure he's ok before ragging him for jinxing Miltons no-hitter. ;)

LINEDRIVER
06-30-2005, 11:19 PM
Hammerin' Hank

Reds Nd2
06-30-2005, 11:19 PM
Tommy Helms...

Hank Arron.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2005, 11:20 PM
Hank Arron.

Missed that part.

Yes. Hank Aaron....Tommy Helms hit the first REDS home run

LINEDRIVER
06-30-2005, 11:21 PM
I believe the Helms homer was a liner off the foul pole in LF.

Heath
06-30-2005, 11:22 PM
I was going to ask about the scoreboard stumper...but its only the 4th inning...
:eek: :bash: :doh: :sleep: :yikes: :oops: