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CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:19 PM
Reds Astros
F. Lopez, SS Palmeiro, LF
Olmedo, 2B Vizcanio, SS
Griffey, CF Berkman, 1B
Dunn, 1B Ensberg, 3B
Pena, RF Lane, RF
Cruz, LF Burke, 2B
Valentin, C Bruntlett, CF
Encarnacion, 3B Ausmus, C
Ortiz, P Astacio, P


Also Marty said to bring up Astacio to pitch, the Astros designated John Franco for assignment.

Matt700wlw
07-02-2005, 08:20 PM
[b]Reds[b]
F. Lopez, SS
Olmedo, 2B
Griffey, CF
Dunn, 1B
Pena, RF
Cruz, LF
Valentin, C
Encarnacion, 3B
Ortiz, P


Also Marty said to bring up Astacio to pitch, the Astros designated John Frano for assignment.

He's better than most of what the Reds have right now...

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 08:22 PM
Olmedo 2nd? :rolleyes:

.300 OBP in AAA=blah

Matt700wlw
07-02-2005, 08:22 PM
HR Palmiero...

...here we go again

Aronchis
07-02-2005, 08:24 PM
I wonder if Ramon will cry again after the game?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:24 PM
lol 2B for Ensberg. Runners at 2nd & 3rd.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:24 PM
Lane pops out. 2 outs.

westofyou
07-02-2005, 08:25 PM
The Reds have 4 games in 50 hours, look for everyone to get a bench day. Romano in CF tommorow.

Falls City Beer
07-02-2005, 08:25 PM
Clobbered by the punchless Astros. At home no less.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:26 PM
Burke doubles, 2 runs score.

3-0 Astros.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:26 PM
Ortiz wasnt supposed to pitch this series, but they had to have a double header.

:)

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:28 PM
Also I dont expect Ortiz to get pulled for a while.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:29 PM
Bruntlett walks.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:30 PM
Ausmus bunts, 1 run scores.

4-0 Astros.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:30 PM
lol beam the pitcher.

Matt700wlw
07-02-2005, 08:31 PM
Ortiz fell down.

So not only does he suck, he's clumsy...

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 08:31 PM
Ortiz's ERA now stands at 7.06

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:31 PM
Astacio strikes out. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:32 PM
This might be a game were we see position players pitch.... :)

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:33 PM
You can expect the Reds to lay down since they are facing a horrible pitcher.

Aronchis
07-02-2005, 08:33 PM
I know. I wouldn't mind seeing Pena pitch tonight. ;)

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:34 PM
I know. I wouldn't mind seeing Pena pitch tonight. ;)

If Freel was healthy he would probably pitch.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:35 PM
Lopez homers!

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Felipe hits number 14!

Aronchis
07-02-2005, 08:36 PM
I was going to lecture Felipe on swinging at ball 4s but never mind ;)

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:37 PM
Olmedo pops out... 1 out.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 08:38 PM
We're about to go 20 games under .500.
I sincerely hope Dan O is given his pink slip sometime during the All-Star break. And he can take Narron with 'em.
Noticed that Casey's getting the game off. Guess all a player has to do is threaten to file a grievance if he doesn't wanna "work" these days. Unreal.
I have never been more disgusted in 45 years as a Reds fan.
Keep a select few with the right attitudes (if they can be found) and clean house of the rest of them.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:39 PM
Griffey singles.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:42 PM
Dunn strikes out.... 2 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:42 PM
Pena singles.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:46 PM
Cruz strikes out looking.................................... 3 outs.

4-1 Astros after 1 inning.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 08:46 PM
That's 3 hits for Pena on the evening. Good to see him coming back around after the injury.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 08:47 PM
Well after that stellar first inning, I wonder if Ortiz is still "happy"? :help:

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:51 PM
Palmeiro singles.
Vizcaino strikes out. 1 out.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 08:51 PM
thanks for the updates, CTA! :beerme:

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:53 PM
Berkman grounds in to a force at 2nd. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:53 PM
Keisler is supposed to be going on a rehab assignment soon... i believe monday?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:55 PM
Ensberg pops out. 3 outs

Dunn reached into the stands or dugout to grab it.

red-in-la
07-02-2005, 08:56 PM
BTW, you DirectTV types, the game is on 643 for now.....I am assuming it will switch to MLB EI at 5:30 (8:30 Cincy time).

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 08:57 PM
Eddie E will homer this inning.

red-in-la
07-02-2005, 08:57 PM
BTW that half inning is a Dunn for GG at 1B highlight film....trade Casey????

red-in-la
07-02-2005, 08:59 PM
Astascio hitting 94 mph pitcher after pitch.

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 08:59 PM
What kind of trivia question is that? Frogs in space??

CTA513
07-02-2005, 08:59 PM
Valentin pops out. 1 out.
Encarnacion flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:01 PM
Ortiz strikes out. 3 outs.

4-1 Astros after 2 innings.

KronoRed
07-02-2005, 09:01 PM
Like the lineup, cept for the 2 spot..but that's a given these days ;)

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 09:03 PM
'preciate the programming heads up, rla!

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:04 PM
Lane grounds out. 1 out.

KronoRed
07-02-2005, 09:04 PM
What kind of trivia question is that? Frogs in space??
They only have 162 real questions, not they are in trouble ;)

Matt700wlw
07-02-2005, 09:04 PM
What kind of trivia question is that? Frogs in space??

http://www.sherryfelix.com/Sherry_Felix_art/SFelix_art_images/frogs_space.jpg

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:05 PM
Burke grounds to Lopez, Lopez throw the ball high to Dunn. But Dunn catches it and tags Burke. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:07 PM
Brutlett flies out. 3 outs.

Reds Nd2
07-02-2005, 09:10 PM
Noticed that Casey's getting the game off. Guess all a player has to do is threaten to file a grievance if he doesn't wanna "work" these days. Unreal.

I'm sorry but I don't understand the referance. Could you please explain?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:10 PM
Lopez grounds out. 1 out.

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 09:10 PM
Defense-wise, is Dunn better at first base or left field? Thoughts?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:11 PM
Olmedo doubles.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:12 PM
Defense-wise, is Dunn better at first base or left field? Thoughts?

He seems to be better at 1st.

KronoRed
07-02-2005, 09:12 PM
Defense-wise, is Dunn better at first base or left field? Thoughts?
1st, and it's not even close

IMO

M2
07-02-2005, 09:13 PM
Here's the important thing to keep focused on. If the Reds drop this game and tomorrow's (I'm thinking the chances of losing that one are excellent with Clemens on the mound), they'll reach the midpoint of the season on track for a franchise-record 102 losses. Infamy is within their grasp.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:15 PM
Griffey strikes out. 2 outs.

How can they let this scrub beat them?

KronoRed
07-02-2005, 09:16 PM
Griffey strikes out. 2 outs.

How can they let this scrub beat them?

Good question :cry:

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:17 PM
Dunn Homers. (2 run homerun).

4-3 Astros.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 09:18 PM
Infamy is within their grasp.


Yep, and suckfamy is already assured.

KronoRed
07-02-2005, 09:18 PM
Dunn rocks.

Matt700wlw
07-02-2005, 09:18 PM
There's those RISP again...

TheBurn
07-02-2005, 09:18 PM
Dunn hr!

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:19 PM
Pena lines out. 3 outs.

4-3 Astros after 3 innings.

Falls City Beer
07-02-2005, 09:19 PM
suckfamy

:laugh: :laugh:

M2
07-02-2005, 09:20 PM
Griffey strikes out. 2 outs.

How can they let this scrub beat them?

Honestly, other teams should fine their players whenever they lose to the Reds. Consider this your Come-to-Householder post, it really doesn't get any worse than these Cincinnati Reds.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 09:20 PM
Just curious, have they mentioned the attendance either in game one or during this one?

red-in-la
07-02-2005, 09:22 PM
Conspiracy theorists????

Are the Reds playing for the draft choice? Just wondered....the Houston guys just put up the worst records in baseball list and the Reds have some serious work to do to get near the top (or bottom).

M2
07-02-2005, 09:22 PM
Dunn Homers. (2 run homerun).

4-3 Astros.

Bat him higher (like Narron's doing in this game), put Wily Mo directly behind him and you'd see a lot more overall and multi-run shots coming off of his bat.

Adam Dunn this season has been as poorly deployed as any player in baseball history.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 09:23 PM
Conspiracy theorists????

Are the Reds playing for the draft choice?


Absolutely not. Narron and O'Brien are fighting for their lives.

Neither will be around for the next draft if they don't turn this disaster around.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:24 PM
another 1-2-3 inning for Ortiz.

pahster
07-02-2005, 09:25 PM
Just curious, have they mentioned the attendance either in game one or during this one?

I thought the Astros announcers said it was twenty four thousand something.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:25 PM
Conspiracy theorists????

Are the Reds playing for the draft choice? Just wondered....the Houston guys just put up the worst records in baseball list and the Reds have some serious work to do to get near the top (or bottom).

If you going to hit rock bottom you might as well get your pick at the top player in the draft.

:devil:

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 09:25 PM
A first baseman with power? 'magine that!
Maybe Sean's hummin' "In the morning, I'll be leaving, making my way back to Cleveland..."
Oh, and Sean. Don't forget to take your "grievance" with ya. :evil:

red-in-la
07-02-2005, 09:25 PM
From the pretty picture for the future department......Lopez and Encarnacion trotting together to the dugout....number 2 and number 12.

M2
07-02-2005, 09:27 PM
Are the Reds playing for the draft choice? Just wondered....the Houston guys just put up the worst records in baseball list and the Reds have some serious work to do to get near the top (or bottom).

???

The Reds stand to finish today only 3.5 games out of the worst record in baseball, and the only reason it's not theirs is because they swept the Devil Rays and not the other way around. As it is, they look to be a mortal lock for one of the four worst records in baseball ... and that'll fetch you a real good college pitcher in the 2006 draft, perhaps one of the UNC boys.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:27 PM
Cruz walks.

NDRed
07-02-2005, 09:28 PM
EE will get his first Major League Home Run this game.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:30 PM
Valentin flies out. 1 out.

red-in-la
07-02-2005, 09:31 PM
???

The Reds stand to finish today only 3.5 games out of the worst record in baseball, and the only reason it's not theirs is because they swept the Devil Rays and not the other way around. As it is, they look to be a mortal lock for one of the four worst records in baseball ... and that'll fetch you a real good college pitcher in the 2006 draft, perhaps one of the UNC boys.

They definitely made the list M2.....but they are still in like 4th place....a few teams to climb under there. It is hard to make up 3.5 games you are pitting yourself against the likes of the D-Rays, KC and Colorado.

But I do agree with you that even 4th might get them a stud pitcher. Pirates are starting a guy named Duke tonight????

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:32 PM
Encarnacion strikes out looking.... 2 outs.

He must be learning from Dunn & Pena. ;)

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:33 PM
Ortiz flies out.

4-3 Astros after 4 innings.

rdiersin
07-02-2005, 09:33 PM
???

The Reds stand to finish today only 3.5 games out of the worst record in baseball, and the only reason it's not theirs is because they swept the Devil Rays and not the other way around. As it is, they look to be a mortal lock for one of the four worst records in baseball ... and that'll fetch you a real good college pitcher in the 2006 draft, perhaps one of the UNC boys.

No, they won't draft one of them because of signability concerns. They will say that pitching is deep, so they will take a HS Pitcher. :D , :(

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:35 PM
Vizcaino grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:37 PM
Berkman lines out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:38 PM
Ensberg strikes out. 3 outs.

1-2-3 inning.

M2
07-02-2005, 09:39 PM
They definitely made the list M2.....but they are still in like 4th place....a few teams to climb under there. It is hard to make up 3.5 games you are pitting yourself against the likes of the D-Rays, KC and Colorado.

But I do agree with you that even 4th might get them a stud pitcher. Pirates are starting a guy named Duke tonight????

Give your imagination a boost. Time to stop of thinking of it like "Well, at least we aren't those guys." Yes, we are, exactly like them. It's easy to make up 3 games in the loss column on anyone when your team's awful.

pahster
07-02-2005, 09:40 PM
Ortiz has been doing pretty well since the 1st. Hopefully he can keep it up.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Lopez triples!

pahster
07-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Woo, triple for Lopez!

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 09:42 PM
Felipe has homered and tripled. Needs a double and single for the cycle.

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 09:42 PM
I heart Felipe.

:)

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:43 PM
Olmedo grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:44 PM
Griffey hits it to the pitcher, pitcher throws the ball away.
Griffey goes to 2nd, Lopez scores.

4-4 tie game.

Chip R
07-02-2005, 09:44 PM
Ortiz reminds me of Acevedo. He's going to have one bad inning but you just don't know when it's going to be.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:46 PM
Dunn pops out. 2 outs.

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 09:47 PM
If anyone is interested, Kearns is 2-for-3 with two doubles so far today. Bats are losing 5-1 in the 7th.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:47 PM
Pena doubles, 1 run scores.

5-4 Reds.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 09:48 PM
If anyone is interested, Kearns is 2-for-3 with two doubles so far today. Bats are losing 5-1 in the 7th.


Yeah, but is he still fat?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:49 PM
Cruz singles, Pena scores.

6-4 Reds.

M2
07-02-2005, 09:50 PM
Well you can certainly see why the Reds might think Astacio is their kind of pitcher.

red-in-la
07-02-2005, 09:50 PM
Give your imagination a boost. Time to stop of thinking of it like "Well, at least we aren't those guys." Yes, we are, exactly like them. It's easy to make up 3 games in the loss column on anyone when your team's awful.

OK, M2, how about one of those mathematical thingys you excell at....

What winning percentage would the Reds have to play in the second half to catch the D-Rays?

And you are singing to the choir on the Reds now being one of them. I told you guys that the day Bowden was fired, the Reds were the new Brewers.....and they are doing a really fine Bud Selig impersonation right now. :bang: :help:

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:51 PM
Valentin doubles, Cruz scores.

7-4 Reds.

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 09:52 PM
Yeah, but is he still fat?

Probably, since Pena is hitting well these days.

(Kidding! Sort of. :) )

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:53 PM
Coffey warming up.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:53 PM
Encarnacion strikes out looking again... 3 outs.

7-4 Reds after 5 innings.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 09:53 PM
Yeah, but is he still fat?

:laugh: :laugh:
You certainly have a way of getting straight to the "meat" of things, '62!

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:57 PM
Lane flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 09:58 PM
Burke grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:00 PM
Bruntlett strikes out. 3 outs.

Ortiz has retired 15 batters in a row.

M2
07-02-2005, 10:01 PM
OK, M2, how about one of those mathematical thingys you excell at....

What winning percentage would the Reds have to play in the second half to catch the D-Rays?

First you'd have to tell me what the D-Rays' final record will be. Let's pick 57-105 out of a hat though. That'd be 27-56 for the Reds from this moment forward. Will they do that? Don't know. Can they? You bet.

Redmachine2003
07-02-2005, 10:01 PM
Will the Real Ortiz please stand up. Wow what a difference.

Patrick Bateman
07-02-2005, 10:02 PM
Ortiz has now retired 15 straight batters.

Just sayin'.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:03 PM
Ortiz grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:04 PM
Lopez singles.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:05 PM
Olmedo singles.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:09 PM
Griffey flies out, Olmedo doubled off 1st. 3 outs.

smith288
07-02-2005, 10:09 PM
Thanks CTA513 for the pbp

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:11 PM
Ortiz is at 86 pitches, Im not sure how long the will let him go but I think this next inning will be his last because he just pitches a few days ago.

pedro
07-02-2005, 10:11 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing the following reds lineup for rest of year

lopez SS
encarnacion 3B
dunn 1B
griffey CF
kearns RF
pena LF
larue C
olmedo

pedro
07-02-2005, 10:12 PM
Griffey flies out, Olmedo doubled off 1st. 3 outs.

That was a nice play by LF, rookie oops by ray ray.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:12 PM
Wagner warming up.

red-in-la
07-02-2005, 10:12 PM
First you'd have to tell me what the D-Rays' final record will be. Let's pick 57-105 out of a hat though. That'd be 27-56 for the Reds from this moment forward. Will they do that? Don't know. Can they? You bet.

Thanks M2.....I agree with you that the Reds can probably do it.....but they still have to beat out 3 other teams.

The Reds have played a few more games at home than away haven't they? When they go on road more, they can REALLY tank.

I am not being sarcastic here.....I just think that if they can draft a college stud who can be their ace in two years.....and Harang and Claussen continue to develop....with Lopez and EdwinE and Dunn and Kearns and WMP, they could suddenly have a decent team.....that is if they dump Allen and DOB before they screw it up.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:13 PM
Ausmus doubles.

pedro
07-02-2005, 10:13 PM
Thanks CTA513 for the pbp

:thumbup:

Patrick Bateman
07-02-2005, 10:14 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing the following reds lineup for rest of year

lopez SS
encarnacion 3B
dunn 1B
griffey CF
kearns RF
pena LF
larue C
olmedo

Olmedo at 2nd?????

You would be lucky to squeak a 600 OPS from him right now.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:14 PM
Biggio pinch hitting for the pitcher.

Biggio grounds out. 1 out.

M2
07-02-2005, 10:15 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing the following reds lineup for rest of year

lopez SS
encarnacion 3B
dunn 1B
griffey CF
kearns RF
pena LF
larue C
olmedo

pedro, why would hit EdE 2nd and Olmedo 8th? So what if Encarnacion's got a better bat, Rey can bunt.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:15 PM
Palmeiro grounds out, Ausmus goes to 3rd. 2 outs.

pedro
07-02-2005, 10:16 PM
Olmedo at 2nd?????

You would be lucky to squeak a 600 OPS from him right now.

probably right, but i'd rather watch him than RA. (even Bergolla)

Actually I should have put Freel there.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:17 PM
Vizcaino with an infield single, 1 run scores.

7-5 Reds.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:17 PM
Ortiz pulled, Wagner coming in.

pedro
07-02-2005, 10:17 PM
Adam Dunn looks good at first. I think he's better than Casey. That was a good stretch and scoop. (even though it was hit)

Patrick Bateman
07-02-2005, 10:17 PM
Actually I should have put Freel there.

Yeah that is what I was thinking.

Falls City Beer
07-02-2005, 10:18 PM
It's no longer turd burglary. It's turd grand larceny.

Newport Red
07-02-2005, 10:19 PM
Thanks M2.....I agree with you that the Reds can probably do it.....but they still have to beat out 3 other teams.

The Reds have played a few more games at home than away haven't they? When they go on road more, they can REALLY tank.

I am not being sarcastic here.....I just think that if they can draft a college stud who can be their ace in two years.....and Harang and Claussen continue to develop....with Lopez and EdwinE and Dunn and Kearns and WMP, they could suddenly have a decent team.....that is if they dump Allen and DOB before they screw it up.

After this series with Houston, the Red's play 10 more games on the road than at home.
Watch for falling rocks.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 10:20 PM
Adam Dunn looks good at first. I think he's better than Casey. That was a good stretch and scoop. (even though it was hit)


No way. Casey isn't exactly Keith Hernandez, but he's come a long way in the last few years.

Dunn looks good every now and then, but he has miles to go before he's even average at first base.

But he could be, with reps.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:20 PM
wild pitch, Vizcaino goes to 2nd.

M2
07-02-2005, 10:20 PM
Amazing that Biggio and Palmeiro swung so early in the count, then again there's a reason why the Astros are such a bad offensive club.

BTW, a good CF catches Ausmus' double and Ortiz is out the 7th without incident. Combined with Bruntlett's snag to end last inning, you're seeing defense making a close game out of what could be a laugher.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 10:21 PM
What was Lopez's third hit and what does he now need for the cycle---a single or a double?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:21 PM
Berkman singles, 1 run scores.

7-6 Reds.

Wagner is damaged goods, please return him for a new one.

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 10:22 PM
What was Lopez's third hit and what does he now need for the cycle---a single or a double?

He needs a double for the cycle.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:22 PM
What was Lopez's third hit and what does he now need for the cycle---a single or a double?

he needs a double.

Patrick Bateman
07-02-2005, 10:22 PM
He needs a double.

M2
07-02-2005, 10:22 PM
Eddie Encarnacion with DEFENSE.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 10:23 PM
Damn, Eddie. Nice play.

pahster
07-02-2005, 10:23 PM
Great play by EE.

TRF
07-02-2005, 10:24 PM
yeah, that EE really is bad defensively.

wow.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 10:24 PM
Wagner just "happy" to contribute his share to the general 'suckitude'?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:25 PM
Wagner just "happy" to contribute his share to the general 'suckitude'?

His ERA went down so hes happy.

TRF
07-02-2005, 10:25 PM
on the other hand... i now see why most of his errors in the minors have been throwing errors. kid has a cannon. great range and a cannon for an arm. the left side of this infield is going to be very good for a very long time.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 10:26 PM
Eddie! Don't you know about the 'suckitude' thing, dude? What are you thinkin' rook? :evil:

M2
07-02-2005, 10:26 PM
After this series with Houston, The Red's play 10 more games on the road than at home.
Watch for falling rocks.

It's the Moria part of the schedule.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:26 PM
Dunn grounds out. 1 out.

Falls City Beer
07-02-2005, 10:27 PM
The Reds vs. the Vivian Girls

Patrick Bateman
07-02-2005, 10:27 PM
Eddie! Don't you know about the 'suckitude' thing, dude? What are you thinkin' rook? :evil:

Well he is batting .083 so I think he is doing a good enough job in that department.

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 10:28 PM
Gameday shows Dunn again chasing pitches down and out of the zone. If he ever learns to lay off that low pitch like he did with the high and tight pitch, he'll be even better.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:29 PM
Pena strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:29 PM
If someone doesnt get on, then Lopez wont have a chance to go for the cycle... unless the game is tied and they bat in th 9th.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 10:31 PM
Oh man, if the Yankees lose to Detroit tonight they will be under .500

Bwahahahahahahahaha

Suckitude loves company.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:31 PM
Cruz strikes out. 3 outs.

7-6 Reds after 7 innings.

M2
07-02-2005, 10:32 PM
on the other hand... i now see why most of his errors in the minors have been throwing errors. kid has a cannon. great range and a cannon for an arm. the left side of this infield is going to be very good for a very long time.

I've always maintained his defensive skills are obvious and glaring when you see him in action. Ensberg barely made it halfway to first on that play.

I'll take the growing pains errors in return for the mad skills. Great defense ended the Reds' 6th. Poor defense started the Astros' 7th and, thanks to Eddie, some great defense prevented the Astros' 7th from doing more damage.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:33 PM
Belisle in to pitch.
Romano goes to left field.

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Oh man, if the Yankees lose to Detroit tonight they will be under .500

:ughmamoru :ughmamoru :ughmamoru

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Felipe has had multi-hit games in 7 of his last 9 games. He has 3 hits in a game in three of the last four games.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 10:34 PM
It seems to me that the throwing errors most young studs make are from not getting set with their feet under them before they throw. Lopez sure went through that.

It's just a matter of maturity to take the extra time to get set.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:35 PM
Lane singles.

Newport Red
07-02-2005, 10:35 PM
Oh man, if the Yankees lose to Detroit tonight they will be under .500

Bwahahahahahahahaha

Suckitude loves company.

I havn't been paying attention to the Yankees' issues for a couple of weeks.
Thanks for the good news.

Patrick Bateman
07-02-2005, 10:36 PM
Crazy range by Ray.

pahster
07-02-2005, 10:36 PM
Nice try by Olmedo

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:38 PM
Burke pops out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:39 PM
Bruntlett grounds into a double play... they only get 1 out because Dunn drops the ball at 1st.... 2 outs.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 10:40 PM
Shades of Dr. Strangeglove.

37red
07-02-2005, 10:41 PM
The yankee detroit game is pretty good, it's always good when the yankees are doing so badly. They just had bases loaded and hit into a force out to end the inning. Wish I had their channel on the tube. Go Detroit.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 10:41 PM
It's really not Dunn's fault. He's got the athleticism to be a very good first baseman. But he hasn't paid his dues yet.

TRF
07-02-2005, 10:42 PM
the astros have managed to get 5 outs in this inning. sad.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:43 PM
Ausmus grounds out. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:43 PM
"Eric Bruntlett grounds into double play, shortstop Felipe Lopez to second baseman Ray Olmedo. Jason Lane out at 2nd. Eric Bruntlett advances to 1st, on missed catch error by first baseman Adam Dunn. "

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 10:43 PM
Bruntlett grounds into a double play... they only get 1 out because Dunn drops the ball at 1st.... 2 outs.

You'd think this 'suckitude' is powered by Energizer batteries. It just keeps going and going and . . .

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:45 PM
Harville in to pitch for the Astros.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 10:48 PM
EE with a single. Lopez may get a chance to hit for the cycle!

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Valentin flies out.

Encarnacion singles.

Chip R
07-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Marty's getting all Harry Carey on us. 2 balls today that he made sound like they were out were caught.

EE with his 2nd hit of his career. :)

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Randa batting for Belisle.

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 10:49 PM
I just caught the 9th inning of the Brewers-Pirates game. The Brewer closer(Derrick Turnbow) looks like the dude from Napoleon Dynamite.

Pitching coach: How your arm feel today, Derrick?

Turnbow: It feeeeeels prettttttty goooood, GOSH!

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:50 PM
Randa hit by pitch.

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 10:51 PM
I just caught the 9th inning of the Brewers-Pirates game. The Brewer closer(Derrick Turnbow) looks like the dude from Napoleon Dynamite.

Pitching coach: How your arm feel today, Derrick?

Turnbow: It feeeeeels prettttttty goooood, GOSH!

His photo cracks me up.

http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_276913.jpg

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 10:52 PM
Come on Felipe! HIT THE CYCLE!

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:52 PM
Lopez singles, 1 run scores.

8-6 Reds.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 10:53 PM
Bummer. But a great night at the plate anyway FLO!

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 10:53 PM
Great night for Felipe, cycle or not. :beerme:

M2
07-02-2005, 10:53 PM
And that's what a little team speed can net you.

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:53 PM
Wild pitch, both runners advance.

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 10:54 PM
His photo cracks me up.

http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_276913.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2004/2004-06/11-heder-inside.jpg Jon Heder from Napoleon Dynamite.

Aronchis
07-02-2005, 10:54 PM
I wish Casey had Felipe's numbers.

Chip R
07-02-2005, 10:55 PM
O.K. Anyone want to tell me what a fair LTC for Felipe would be?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:55 PM
Olmedo with a sac fly.

9-6 Reds.

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 10:56 PM
O.K. Anyone want to tell me what a fair LTC for Felipe would be?

4-year, 20-million?

CTA513
07-02-2005, 10:56 PM
Griffey Homers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-6 Reds.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 10:56 PM
yeah, baby

RosieRed
07-02-2005, 10:57 PM
Griffey! 11-6. :party:

OnBaseMachine
07-02-2005, 10:57 PM
I believe Felipe tied a career high with 4 hits tonight. His nine total bases is a new career high.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 10:57 PM
Good night for Ray-Ray, too. Single, double, SacFly. Hopefully we'll get to see him play some more.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 10:58 PM
wow, we don't suck as much as we did a few hours ago *sniff*

TRF
07-02-2005, 11:00 PM
you knew if Harville pitched junior the way he had pitched both Lopez and Rey-Rey junior was going yard.

it was like he put it on a tee.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 11:00 PM
8 hits from the top three spots in the lineup. I'll take it!
This team doesn't suck as badly when his grievance isn't in the lineup!
Before you lay into me, I only halfway mean this. I've always been a staunch Casey supporter but his antics lately have me on the verge of reconsidering my view of his importance to this, er, team.

Aronchis
07-02-2005, 11:01 PM
I can't believe Felipe is this good. But a 275 25hr 85RBI guy I can probably see. I would offer 5yr 25mill and see if he would bite.

smith288
07-02-2005, 11:01 PM
8 hits from the top three spots in the lineup. I'll take it!
This team doesn't suck as badly when his grievance isn't in the lineup!
Before you lay into me, I only halfway mean this. I've always been a staunch Casey supporter but his antics lately have me on the verge of reconsidering my view of his importance to this, er, team. no laying into you from me. I agree 100%

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 11:02 PM
FeLo sure is making it hard to continue missing Barry Larkin. But I do anyway.

RFS62
07-02-2005, 11:03 PM
FeLo sure is making it hard to continue missing Barry Larkin. But I do anyway.


I miss Barry. I miss Davey. I miss Leo.

I still love FeLo's game.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 11:06 PM
Leo Sayre??? Dang, you're old! And with poor taste in music. ;)

CTA513
07-02-2005, 11:06 PM
O.K. Anyone want to tell me what a fair LTC for Felipe would be?

If the site I looked at is right he is making $415,000 this year.
Id consider a 4 or 5 year deal between $15 million and $20 million.

If the Reds let him know hes going to be the full time shortstop then I think it wont be hard to sign him... All I know is if he continues this, the Reds better sign him to a long term contract because he is showing good signs of being of the future shortstop for the Reds.

I just hope they dont do what they did with Dunn. If they are going to sign him, sign him this offseason and not those crappy 1 year deals either.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 11:07 PM
So Ortiz got the win! Bet he's REALLY 'happy' now!!!

CTA513
07-02-2005, 11:07 PM
I can't believe Felipe is this good. But a 275 25hr 85RBI guy I can probably see. I would offer 5yr 25mill and see if he would bite.

Im sure he would bite as long as he knew he was going to be the full time shortstop.

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 11:09 PM
thanks again for the game PBP, CTA513! And thanks to all who contributed! That was the first Reds game I've enjoyed in quite some while! Take care all and happy 4th of July!

RedRoser
07-02-2005, 11:11 PM
And, congratulations in advance, '62 on your upcoming 10,000th post, o' prolific one! :beerme:

Chip R
07-02-2005, 11:11 PM
4-year, 20-million?That'd be mighty fair... for the Reds. I'm thinking maybe 4 years with an option for a 5th at $3M, $5M, $7 and $7 and if the 5th year is picked up, $8M with a $1M bonus.

Redmachine2003
07-02-2005, 11:13 PM
Man I was really hoping Lopez would get that Double in his last ab for the cycle.

M2
07-02-2005, 11:29 PM
Game segue - Stop telling me you're old school and BE old school

Go back in time 1980s and think about what the manager would have done once Encarnacion got that one out single in the 8th. In fact, let's pick the managers of the Reds and Astros for the mid-to-late '80s for this little exercise - Pete Rose and Hal Lanier.

Let's see, young kid been struggling a bit at the plate, gets on first with a one-run lead in the bottom of the 8th. Kids' got good wheels and the guy on the mound is an easy read with NO move to boot. Oh yeah, veteran hitter at the plate too.

Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that the kid would have been off the races in the first three pitches? Old school, the school where these modern managers claim to have matriculated, would have that kid playing some baseball. In fact the first base coach probably would have greeted him with "Time to cut it loose kid and show 'em you got game." When a manager like Rose or Lanier thought they had an advantage, they pressed it.

Yet instead of letting Encarnacion make something happen faux old school managers like Narron make him sit around and wait for something to happen ... and there's the rub. It's fine if these managers want to throw rocks at Billy Beane, but they're hardly making a case for an alternative form of baseball. Somewhere Jerry Narron, real old school baseball men like Whitey Ford are throwing rocks at you.

They say speed never slumps, that is unless you throw a cage around it. What galls me about these modern wannabe seamhead managers is they're getting in between their players and the game. They aren't aggressive and they don't look to take advantage at the micro level. It's too bad because I remember back when a kid named Eric Davis got off to a rocky start in 1986 and after swiping a few bases and making some highlight plays his bat came around (of course his manager also thought enough of him to hit him at the top of a veteran lineup).

Hey Jerry, stop sharing the constipation.

Falls City Beer
07-02-2005, 11:42 PM
Game segue - Stop telling me you're old school and BE old school

Go back in time 1980s and think about what the manager would have done once Encarnacion got that one out single in the 8th. In fact, let's pick the managers of the Reds and Astros for the mid-to-late '80s for this little exercise - Pete Rose and Hal Lanier.

Let's see, young kid been struggling a bit at the plate, gets on first with a one-run lead in the bottom of the 8th. Kids' got good wheels and the guy on the mound is an easy read with NO move to boot. Oh yeah, veteran hitter at the plate too.

Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that the kid would have been off the races in the first three pitches? Old school, the school where these modern managers claim to have matriculated, would have that kid playing some baseball. In fact the first base coach probably would have greeted him with "Time to cut it loose kid and show 'em you got game." When a manager like Rose or Lanier thought they had an advantage, they pressed it.

Yet instead of letting Encarnacion make something happen faux old school managers like Narron make him sit around and wait for something to happen ... and there's the rub. It's fine if these managers want to throw rocks at Billy Beane, but they're hardly making a case for an alternative form of baseball. Somewhere Jerry Narron, real old school baseball men like Whitey Ford are throwing rocks at you.

They say speed never slumps, that is unless you throw a cage around it. What galls me about these modern wannabe seamhead managers is they're getting in between their players and the game. They aren't aggressive and they don't look to take advantage at the micro level. It's too bad because I remember back when a kid named Eric Davis got off to a rocky start in 1986 and after swiping a few bases and making some highlight plays his bat came around (of course his manager also thought enough of him to hit him at the top of a veteran lineup).

Hey Jerry, stop sharing the constipation.

"Let be be the finale of seem"

Wallace Stevens

M2
07-03-2005, 12:03 AM
"Let be be the finale of seem"

Wallace Stevens

If I'm ever in a band again, I'm writing a song called "Ice cream and insurance"

KronoRed
07-03-2005, 12:26 AM
Man I was really hoping Lopez would get that Double in his last ab for the cycle.

Would have been nice to see that :)

KittyDuran
07-03-2005, 12:32 AM
Just got back from the games - nothing like spending 7 hours at the ballpark :) -too tired to read all the way thru the game threads. But I will give one of my infamous banner reports [there were a few tonight].

Happy Birthday Casey!
Girlfriend Want Ad!!! Apply Here! :D [Poor guy didn't see anyone apply]
Git-R-Dunn Pena
Catch those balls LaRue
Randa's Hot! [Puffy will be pleased] ;)

KronoRed
07-03-2005, 12:40 AM
Admit it

The 'Randa's Hot!' was yours!

;)

KittyDuran
07-03-2005, 12:42 AM
Admit it

The 'Randa's Hot!' was yours!

;)Wish it was mine [that and the LaRue sign were in the Club seats]. Of course, it was probably TeamRanda... ;)

pedro
07-03-2005, 03:07 AM
scratch what i said about olmedo.

he scares me.