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CTA513
07-08-2005, 09:02 PM
Reds Diamondbacks
1. F Lopez, SS 1. C Counsell, 2B
2. R Aurilia, 2B 2. C Tracy, 1B
3. S Casey, 1B 3. L Gonzalez, LF
4. K Griffey Jr., CF 4. T Glaus, 3B
5. J Randa, 3B 5. S Green, RF
6. W Pena, RF 6. A Cintron, SS
7. A Dunn, LF 7. J Cruz Jr., CF
8. J LaRue, C 8. C Snyder, C
9. R Ortiz, P 9. B Halsey, P

WMR
07-08-2005, 09:03 PM
Will someone please wake me up when this nightmare is over?

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 09:05 PM
:explode:

Lefty right?

CTA513
07-08-2005, 09:06 PM
I wish they would stick with 1 lineup, and I dont want this one to be it.

Puffy
07-08-2005, 09:08 PM
This is all I ask if Narron wants to drop Dunn against the lefties:

Lopez
Randa
Casey
Griffey
Pena
Dunn
Aurilia
LaRue

Thats it - I still don't like it (Casey third still is the biggest problem) but its better than the crap he throws out there. Everyone say it with me one more time - - Rich Aurilia should never get more at bats in a game than Casey, Griffey, Randa, Pena and Dunn.

WMR
07-08-2005, 09:08 PM
What kind of an asinine argument is it to try and say that you're going to play the lefty-right match-ups while batting Pena, who absolutely DESTROYS lefties, in the SIXTH SPOT???????


Does anyone have the team .OPS/.OBP splits Lefty-Righty?

CTA513
07-08-2005, 09:14 PM
Aurilia should only be batting in a head of the pitcher.

Fullboat
07-08-2005, 09:15 PM
Is the game on TV tonight?

CTA513
07-08-2005, 09:20 PM
Is the game on TV tonight?

I checked both the Reds & Diamondbacks sites and it doesnt show the game on TV, just on the radio.

jmcclain19
07-08-2005, 09:28 PM
ahh looks like another tasty Reds lineup.

Just what I wanted to see for my first in person Reds game this year Rich Aurilia on the field and Adam Dunn batting seventh.

Jerry Narron really knows how to push a guy's buttons :luvu:

Anyway, I'm off to the game boys and girls. Behave yourselves in the interim.

RedsBaron
07-08-2005, 09:33 PM
This is all I ask if Narron wants to drop Dunn against the lefties:

Lopez
Randa
Casey
Griffey
Pena
Dunn
Aurilia
LaRue

Thats it - I still don't like it (Casey third still is the biggest problem) but its better than the crap he throws out there. Everyone say it with me one more time - - Rich Aurilia should never get more at bats in a game than Casey, Griffey, Randa, Pena and Dunn.
Casey should never get more at bats in a game than Dunn, Griffey or Pena either. The parade of incompetents continues. :bang:

CTA513
07-08-2005, 09:36 PM
This is all I ask if Narron wants to drop Dunn against the lefties:

Lopez
Randa
Casey
Griffey
Pena
Dunn
Aurilia
LaRue

Thats it - I still don't like it (Casey third still is the biggest problem) but its better than the crap he throws out there. Everyone say it with me one more time - - Rich Aurilia should never get more at bats in a game than Casey, Griffey, Randa, Pena and Dunn.

Id rather have that lineup than the current one... but I would rather see Griffey moved to 3rd, Pena or Dunn 4th & 5th, Casey 6th, Aurilia 7th, Larue 8th.

OnBaseMachine
07-08-2005, 09:41 PM
Adam Dunn...the most underutilized player in baseball?

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 09:56 PM
Adam Dunn...the most underutilized player in baseball?

Has to be :help:

RedFanAlways1966
07-08-2005, 09:57 PM
Some notes entering tonight's game @ Arizona...

* The REDS record vs. the NL West is 4-9 (.308).
> Lowest winning pct. vs. NL divisions & interleague.
>> NL East 10-10 (.500), AL games 7-8 (.467), NL Central 12-25 (.324).
> REDS starters vs. NL West: 64.2IP, 87H, 54ER, 46K, 20BB.
>> 1-7 record, 7.52 ERA, 1.65 WHIP.
> REDS bullpen vs. NL West: 48.1IP, 73H, 35ER, 31K, 22BB.
>> 3-2 record, 6.52 ERA, 1.97 WHIP.

* Last year the REDS were 3-3 vs. the D-Backs.
> 1-2 at home, 2-1 in Bank One Ballpark.
> The REDS outscored the D-Backs 26-15 in total runs.

* Ramon Ortiz is 4-6 w/ a 6.59 ERA in 14 starts.
> 3 quality starts.
> ERA by month: April = 5.00 ; May = 5.74 ; June = 8.29
> 18 HRs allowed. 2nd high behind Milton.
> Averages 5.17 innings per start.
> Ortiz has 3 games with 2 IP or less. The REDS have 5 total as a staff.

Reds1
07-08-2005, 09:59 PM
Everyone say it with me one more time - - Rich Aurilia should never get more at bats in a game than Casey, Griffey, Randa, Pena and Dunn.

Preach on sir Puffy! Preach on!

cumberlandreds
07-08-2005, 10:12 PM
Is the game on TV tonight?

Nope,just radio. I don't even think MLBTV has it. :(

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 10:20 PM
Puffy for manager

Raisor
07-08-2005, 10:22 PM
Puffy for manager

I don't know if the world is ready for that.

rdiersin
07-08-2005, 10:27 PM
Adam Dunn...the most underutilized player in baseball?

Yep, and the opposite in Aurillia.

letsgojunior
07-08-2005, 10:29 PM
Is it really that hard to compose a lineup that looks like:

SS Lopez
3B Randa
LF Dunn
CF Griffey
RF Pena
1B Casey
2B Aurilia
C Larue
P

There's simply no reason Dunn should be hitting so low in the order. I don't care if a lefty is on the mound either - Dunn has historically hit lefties very well. This is just nonsense.

pedro
07-08-2005, 10:30 PM
I love it when guys with an OBP of .297 bat second.

TRF
07-08-2005, 10:34 PM
in June his OBP was .418.

Hey, I loathe the guy, and his OBP has come back to earth, but you play the hot hand sometimes. He had a good June. They just haven't recognized that he is still Rich Aurilia, and July is looking pretty bleak.

I think they were hoping he would keep it up to increase his trade value.

pedro
07-08-2005, 10:35 PM
in June his OBP was .418.

Hey, I loathe the guy, and his OBP has come back to earth, but you play the hot hand sometimes. He had a good June.

True, but he's been pretty bad for the last 7-10 days.

TRF
07-08-2005, 10:36 PM
yah... just edited my above post.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:41 PM
Lopez grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:42 PM
Aurilia singles.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:43 PM
Casey grounds in to a double play. 3 outs.

That was Caseys 20th double play hes hit in to.

Patrick Bateman
07-08-2005, 10:44 PM
Casey grounds in to a double play. 3 outs.

That was Caseys 20th double play hes hit in to.

THat is now his career high, and before the all star break yet.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 10:44 PM
:runaway:

Raisor
07-08-2005, 10:46 PM
Casey grounds in to a double play. 3 outs.

That was Caseys 20th double play hes hit in to.

Having more then six times as many Double Plays then homers....eek.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:46 PM
Counsell homers.

1-0 Diamondbacks.

Matt700wlw
07-08-2005, 10:47 PM
That didn't take long...

TRF
07-08-2005, 10:47 PM
well, that was quick.

WMR
07-08-2005, 10:47 PM
Having more then six times as many Double Plays then homers....eek.

At least he didn't strike out.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:48 PM
Tracy walks.

OnBaseMachine
07-08-2005, 10:48 PM
Anyone watching the Pirates-Mets game?

Cliff Floyd just made Dunn and Pena look like gold glovers. With the Pirates down 5-3 in the 9th and runners on 1st and 2nd, Lawton hit a flyball to left, Floyd lost it in the lights for a second. What happened next was hilarious; he attempted to dive for the ball and it got past him for a two run double to tie the game. In that situation you just worry about keeping the ball in front of you to preserve the lead.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 10:49 PM
Dude..Craig Counsel?

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:50 PM
Dude..Craig Counsel?

Adam Everett has hit about 2 or 3 of his 5 homeruns off of the Reds.

:laugh:

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:50 PM
Gonzalez walks.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 10:51 PM
Triple play time

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:52 PM
I bet Homer Bailey could do a better job up here than most of the Reds starters.

:)

Big Klu
07-08-2005, 10:52 PM
Having more then six times as many Double Plays then homers....eek.

That might be OK if you are a guy that only hits one homer a season, like Vince Coleman or Johnnie LeMaster. But more than one HR, and it's trouble.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:53 PM
Glaus pops out. 1 out.

Super_Barry11
07-08-2005, 10:53 PM
Is anyone else having problems with mlb.tv?? I'm getting the audio fine, but the video is all choppy and keeps stopping on me... :thumbdown

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:54 PM
Green grounds in to a force at 2nd. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:55 PM
Ortiz is hurt.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:55 PM
Ortiz says hes ok.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 10:55 PM
Ortiz says hes ok.
All the Dback fans say YAY

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:56 PM
Cintron flies out. 3 outs.

1-0 Diamondbacks after the 1st inning.

Johnny Vander m
07-08-2005, 10:57 PM
For the second night in a row I can't get WKKI on the computer. Is it my computer or is anyone else having this problem?

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:58 PM
I hope they give Ortiz spot in the rotation to either Keisler or Belisle.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Griffey flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Randa pops out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:00 PM
It would be nice if they would actually take some pitches.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:01 PM
Pena singles.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:04 PM
Dunn strikes out looking................. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:08 PM
Cruz Jr. grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:09 PM
Snyder hit by pitch.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:10 PM
Halsey bunts in to a force at 2nd. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:10 PM
Counsell lines out. 3 outs.

1-0 Diamondbacks after 2 innings.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Dead game thread :help:

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Larue strikes out looking. 1 out.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:15 PM
Ortiz doubles.

Falls City Beer
07-08-2005, 11:15 PM
It's Friday, the team sucks.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:17 PM
Lopez grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:19 PM
Aurilia grounds out. 3 outs.

TRF
07-08-2005, 11:19 PM
It's Friday, the team sucks.

I love The Cure!

Monday the Reds fall apart.
Tuesday, Wednesday they break my heart.
Thursday Aaron gets the start,
It's Friday this team sucks.

OnBaseMachine
07-08-2005, 11:20 PM
It's Friday, the team sucks.

The Reds only suck on days that end in y.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 11:22 PM
I love The Cure!

Monday the Reds fall apart.
Tuesday, Wednesday they break my heart.
Thursday Aaron gets the start,
It's Friday this team sucks.
:clap:

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:22 PM
Tracy grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:23 PM
Gonzalez singles.

WMR
07-08-2005, 11:25 PM
I love The Cure!

Monday the Reds fall apart.
Tuesday, Wednesday they break my heart.
Thursday Aaron gets the start,
It's Friday this team sucks.

I think you might have a hit on your hands.

I'm sure 700 would give it some play.

TRF
07-08-2005, 11:25 PM
:clap:

Thanks... I'm here all week.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:27 PM
Glaus Homers!

3-0 Diamondbacks!!

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:28 PM
Green singles.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 11:29 PM
Get the pen up

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:29 PM
Cintron grounds in to a double play. 3 outs.

3-0 Diamondbacks! after 3 innings.

TRF
07-08-2005, 11:30 PM
I loathe Ramon Ortiz.

a lot.

more than eggplant.

more than the hole in the ozone layer.

more than Sandra Bullock movies.

more than bad Mexican food.

more than French comedies.

more than the fact that I have no access to White Castle or Jack in the Box.

just plain more.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:30 PM
Get the pen up

Let Ortiz pitch 8 innings or give up 15 runs first.

OnBaseMachine
07-08-2005, 11:32 PM
Indians pitcher Rafael Betancourt suspended 10 days for violating the steroid policy.

Falls City Beer
07-08-2005, 11:32 PM
I love The Cure!

Monday the Reds fall apart.
Tuesday, Wednesday they break my heart.
Thursday Aaron gets the start,
It's Friday this team sucks.

Speaking of The Cure, I came up with this little gem.

The Cincinnati Reds: Just Like Heavin'

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:33 PM
Casey grounds out. 1 out.

It would have been a double play if someone was on 1st.

TRF
07-08-2005, 11:33 PM
A fellow Cure fan FCB?

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:33 PM
Griffey doubles.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:35 PM
lol Griffey thrown out stealing? 2 outs.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:35 PM
Randa flies out. 3 outs.

Falls City Beer
07-08-2005, 11:35 PM
A fellow Cure fan FCB?

They had a solid run in the early to mid-80s. Not a huge fan of the post 1990 stuff.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 11:36 PM
Who called for that steal?

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:37 PM
Who called for that steal?

I dont think it was a steal. I think it might have been a hit and run, but Griffey took off before the pitcher started his motion.

:bang:

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:37 PM
With Joe Randa batting, Ken GriffeyJr. caught stealing 3rd base, pitcher Brad Halsey to third baseman Troy Glaus.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:38 PM
Cruz Jr. lines out. 1 out.

TRF
07-08-2005, 11:39 PM
They had a solid run in the early to mid-80s. Not a huge fan of the post 1990 stuff.

pretty much agree, though i loved the work they did on The Crow soundttrack.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:40 PM
Ortiz ERA right now is 6.66.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:40 PM
Snyder strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:41 PM
Halsey singles.... 2nd hit of the year.

:/

Johnny Vander m
07-08-2005, 11:42 PM
CTA513, you do a heck of a job on the game thread, with you I don't need WKKI or XM radio. I will just tune in to WCTA on the Zone. :beerme:

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:42 PM
Counsell flies out. 3 outs.

3-0 Diamondbacks after 4 innings.

Fullboat
07-08-2005, 11:43 PM
Thanks for the updates!

Can't see the suckage
Can't even hear the suckage
But thanks to the updates,I can read the suckage. :thumbup:

cumberlandreds
07-08-2005, 11:46 PM
:devil:
Ortiz ERA right now is 6.66. :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

This has been a devilish season. That ERA sums it up.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:46 PM
Pena grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:48 PM
Dunn grounds out. 1 out.

KronoRed
07-08-2005, 11:48 PM
Can I just say...

Boo.

cumberlandreds
07-08-2005, 11:48 PM
Indians pitcher Rafael Betancourt suspended 10 days for violating the steroid policy.

Is it me or has there been more pitchers than hitters suspended for this?

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:49 PM
Is it me or has there been more pitchers than hitters suspended for this?

I dont know, but I think that team should forfeit each game he played in.

They also said he would be serving his suspension while on the DL. :rolleyes:

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:50 PM
Larue hit by pitch.

guttle11
07-08-2005, 11:50 PM
Is it me or has there been more pitchers than hitters suspended for this?


and a few more "lost velocity" claims this year :confused:

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:50 PM
Ortiz with a bunt single, Larue goes to 3rd.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:52 PM
Lopez strikes out. 3 outs.

TRF
07-08-2005, 11:53 PM
Ortiz with a bunt single, Larue goes to 3rd.

i read that on sportsline, and nearly fell out of my chair.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:54 PM
i read that on sportsline, and nearly fell out of my chair.

Hes 2 for 2 this game.
He only needs a triple and a homerun for the cycle. ;)

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:56 PM
Tracy singles.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:57 PM
Tracy steals 2nd.

CTA513
07-08-2005, 11:58 PM
Gonzalez flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:01 AM
Glaus strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:02 AM
Green grounds out. 3 outs.

3-0 Diamondbacks after 5 innings.

WMR
07-09-2005, 12:04 AM
and a few more "lost velocity" claims this year :confused:

:graves: ?

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:05 AM
Aurilia grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:06 AM
Casey doubles.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Griffey grounds out, Casey to 3rd. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Randa flies out. 3 outs

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:11 AM
Cintron grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:13 AM
Cruz Jr. walks.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:14 AM
Throwing error by Ortiz, Cruz Jr. to 2nd.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:15 AM
Snyder grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:16 AM
Halsey grounds out. 3 outs.

3-0 Diamondbacks after 6 innings.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:18 AM
Shackelford warming up.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:19 AM
Pena grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:21 AM
Dunn strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:22 AM
Larue grounds out. 3 outs.

pretty sad if the Reds get shutout by the Diamondbacks.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:25 AM
Counsell flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:26 AM
Tracy pops out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:27 AM
Gonzalez flies out. 3 outs.

3-0 Diamondbacks after 7 innings.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:28 AM
Romano batting for Ortiz.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 12:29 AM
Go Reds :D

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:29 AM
Romano singles.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:30 AM
Ortiz tonight: 7 Innings, 6 Hits, 3 Earned Runs.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:31 AM
Lopez grounds in to a force at 2nd. 1 out.

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 12:31 AM
Romano singles.

Rally time Ramano! :D

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:32 AM
Aurilia singles.

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 12:32 AM
Ortiz tonight: 7 Innings, 6 Hits, 3 Earned Runs.

Not a bad outing. No support except from himself with two hits.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 12:34 AM
Please call a double steal..no more double plays

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:35 AM
Passed ball, Lopez to 3rd.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:37 AM
Weathers warming up.

Fullboat
07-09-2005, 12:38 AM
Ortiz is kinda like Glavine he gets in trouble early than settles down.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:39 AM
Casey fouling off pitch after pitch.

Matt700wlw
07-09-2005, 12:39 AM
Have they ever ran out of baseballs?

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:39 AM
Casey pops out. 2 outs.

TheBurn
07-09-2005, 12:40 AM
C'mon Junior!

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:40 AM
pitching change: Almanza coming in to pitch.

Falls City Beer
07-09-2005, 12:42 AM
Have they ever ran out of baseballs?

Nah, Bud just keeps laying them like eggs.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:44 AM
Wild pitch, Aurilia to 2nd.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:45 AM
Griffey Homers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 12:45 AM
HR Junior!!!! 3-3

TheBurn
07-09-2005, 12:45 AM
Yeah Junior! :jump:

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 12:45 AM
JR is the man.

..if Dunn has been batting 3rd it would have been a grand slam

;)

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:46 AM
Randa doubles.

Reds Fanatic
07-09-2005, 12:46 AM
Junior homers to tie the game. On that homer Junior goes over the 1500 RBI mark. Now has 1502 RBI's.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:46 AM
Diamondbacks making a pitching change.

TheBurn
07-09-2005, 12:46 AM
Wily!

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 12:47 AM
Man, two guys who we apparently want to get rid of are hot and on target for great seasons. Randa's double and Junior's HR are what the doctor ordered...finally

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 12:47 AM
The Diamondbacks are stinky

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 12:48 AM
:beerme: :beerme: :beerme: :beerme: :beerme: :beerme:

Edskin
07-09-2005, 12:48 AM
WV-- Don't forget to send me your address :)

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:48 AM
Heres a stat for you: Casey has not had an RBI in 11 games. If he doesnt get an RBI tonight it will be 12 games.

:eek:

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 12:49 AM
Diamondback radio PBP man after Griffey's HR, "He can still do it."

After 17 HR and 58 RBI in a little over half a season, that is the understatement of the season so far.

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 12:49 AM
WV-- Don't forget to send me your address :)

Old age and part-timers disease. I'll PM you in a second!


Sorry.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:50 AM
Pena strikes out. 3 outs.

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 12:51 AM
Heres a stat for you: Casey has not had an RBI in 11 games. If he doesnt get an RBI tonight it will be 12 games.

:eek:

And this man is batting third. Should be batting 7th with that little run production even if he's hitting .400.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:52 AM
Weathers in to pitch, Romano in for Pena.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 12:53 AM
Romano in for Pena :runaway:

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:53 AM
Glaus grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:55 AM
Green singles.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:55 AM
Cintron flies out. 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
07-09-2005, 12:56 AM
Heres a stat for you: Casey has not had an RBI in 11 games. If he doesnt get an RBI tonight it will be 12 games.

:eek:

12 comes after 11? ;)

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 12:56 AM
12 comes after 11? ;)
Rumors say 13 is next

kyred14
07-09-2005, 12:56 AM
Romano in for Pena :runaway:

Narron is stupid. Fire him.

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 12:57 AM
Romano in for Pena :runaway:

Narron mimicks Miley the Stepford Manager...

"Must play Romano. Must play Romano. Must play Romano."

:fineprint: :romano:

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:58 AM
Cruz Jr. walks.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:59 AM
Rumors say 13 is next

14 then 45.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 12:59 AM
Tony Clark batting for Snyder.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 12:59 AM
Tony Clarke is still playing baseball?

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 01:00 AM
Narron is stupid. Fire him.

Folks, it has to do with the fact that Narron would like to use Weathers to pitch more than one inning, without having to worry about him coming to the plate. Peņa's spot in the order would be the ninth one to bat next inning. So he made the double-switch, with Romano (who had pinch-hit for Ortiz) staying in the game.

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:00 AM
Just think...if we did trade Griffey, the big money's on Romano moving to CF with Kearns either still in Louisville or on the bench.

They all must go. Soon.

:fineprint :romano:

Chip R
07-09-2005, 01:01 AM
Heres a stat for you: Casey has not had an RBI in 11 games. If he doesnt get an RBI tonight it will be 12 games.

:eek:
Don't tell Chris Welsh. ;)

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:02 AM
Clark strikes out! 3 outs.

3-3 tie game after 8 innings.

Aronchis
07-09-2005, 01:02 AM
Just think...if we did trade Griffey, the big money's on Romano moving to CF with Kearns either still in Louisville or on the bench.

They all must go. Soon.

:fineprint :romano:

Are you kidding me? Romano's is being used like a 4th outfielder is used. If Griffey is traded, Kearns returns and starts. Enough said.

Reds Fanatic
07-09-2005, 01:03 AM
Dunn, Larue and Romano due up in the 9th.

kyred14
07-09-2005, 01:03 AM
Folks, it has to do with the fact that Narron would like to use Weathers to pitch more than one inning, without having to worry about him coming to the plate. Peņa's spot in the order would be the ninth one to bat next inning.

You don't put Jason Romano in for Wily Mo Pena.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:04 AM
Kelly Stinnett replace Snyder batting 8th.

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:05 AM
Are you kidding me? Romano's is being used like a 4th outfielder is used. If Griffey is traded, Kearns returns and starts. Enough said.

I wouldn't put anything in permanent ink with this FO, Aronchis. They're in love with Romano.

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 01:05 AM
Then what would you do? Let Weathers hit for himself? Or hand things over to one of our multitude of less effective relievers?

Matt700wlw
07-09-2005, 01:06 AM
Folks, it has to do with the fact that Narron would like to use Weathers to pitch more than one inning, without having to worry about him coming to the plate. Peņa's spot in the order would be the ninth one to bat next inning. So he made the double-switch, with Romano (who had pinch-hit for Ortiz) staying in the game.


Where's Kearns when we need him? ;)

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:06 AM
Dunn walks.

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 01:06 AM
Dunn, Larue and Romano due up in the 9th.

Rally time Romano will be up. He got us started last inning. He'll do it with two outs this inning. :rolleyes:

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 01:07 AM
Kearns would be *****ing because he wasn't starting. ;)

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:08 AM
Dunn walks for the 61st time this year and the Arizona PBP guy says it might get Dunn out of the game for a pinch runner. :nono: Don't give anyone any ideas...

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:08 AM
Larue strikes out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:08 AM
Cruz batting for Romano.

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:08 AM
Cruz PH's for Romano!!! Is the love affair over?

kyred14
07-09-2005, 01:09 AM
Then what would you do? Let Weathers hit for himself? Or hand things over to one of our multitude of less effective relievers?

I don't know, I just feel like complaining.

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 01:09 AM
And see? You play the lefty-righty percentages with Romano anyway, and pinch-hit Cruz for him.

kyred14
07-09-2005, 01:11 AM
Narron, please oh please stop trying to bunt. PLEASE

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:11 AM
Cruz singles.

Reds Fanatic
07-09-2005, 01:12 AM
Runners on 1st and 2nd with one out.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:14 AM
Lopez grounds in to a force at 2nd, Runners at 1st & 3rd. 2 outs.

pedro
07-09-2005, 01:14 AM
61 Walks.

What's the Reds record? 120 ?

TeamCasey
07-09-2005, 01:15 AM
Yeah Baby!

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:15 AM
Aurilia singles, Dunn scores, Lopez to 3rd.

4-3 Reds.

Reds Fanatic
07-09-2005, 01:15 AM
Reds take the lead on Aurilia's hit.

kyred14
07-09-2005, 01:15 AM
RA is the man!!!!

Well, maybe not ;)

OnBaseMachine
07-09-2005, 01:15 AM
61 Walks.

What's the Reds record? 120 ?

132 by Joe Morgan. Dunn had 128 in 2002.

pedro
07-09-2005, 01:17 AM
Good job RA. 2 out single to score Dunn.

Reds up 4-3

TeamCasey
07-09-2005, 01:17 AM
I think I brought luck to the thread. You all owe me mint chocolate chip ice cream.

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:17 AM
132 by Joe Morgan. Dunn had 128 in 2002.

OBM beat me to it. Dunn has a chance to break that record this year.

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 01:17 AM
Who's gonna close the ninth? Mercker?Belisle? Standridge? (Just Kidding,I think)

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:18 AM
I think I brought luck to the thread. You all owe me mint chocolate chip ice cream.

Ummm. Mint Chocolate Ice cream. Curse you, TC. I'm on a diet and I just happen to have some of that in the freezer. Oh, well... :beerme:

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 01:18 AM
61 Walks.

What's the Reds record? 120 ?
132

pedro
07-09-2005, 01:18 AM
RA is the man!!!!

Well, maybe not ;)

Considering that Jimenez bombed and Freel's been hurt. RA has helped the Reds since he's been at 2B.

As much as that hurts to say :)

kyred14
07-09-2005, 01:19 AM
What is the record for "soft" walks. I bet Dunn has already broken that one ;)

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 01:19 AM
:notworthy


I think I brought luck to the thread. You all owe me mint chocolate chip ice cream.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:19 AM
Casey grounds out. 3 outs.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 01:19 AM
OBM beat me to it. Dunn has a chance to break that record this year.
Batting 7th :evil:

pedro
07-09-2005, 01:19 AM
3-5 tonight.

I need to jam him up before every game. ;)

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:20 AM
Who's gonna close the ninth? Mercker?Belisle? Standridge? (Just Kidding,I think)

Probably Belsile, because I think they named him closer.

pedro
07-09-2005, 01:20 AM
I still don't want him hitting second.

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 01:20 AM
I don't know, I just feel like complaining.

My point is that the double-switch is a strategy. It wasn't made just because they wanted to get Romano in and take Peņa out. Nor was it made because the Reds management thinks the club is better with Romano than it is with Peņa. It was made because they wanted to move the pitcher's batting slot as far away from being at bat as possible.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 01:21 AM
I still don't want him hitting second.
Are you Dave Miley? ;)

Reds Fanatic
07-09-2005, 01:21 AM
McCraken, Counsell and Tracy due up in the bottom of the 9th.

kyred14
07-09-2005, 01:21 AM
Batting 7th :evil:

What is the Reds' record with Dunn batting 7th?

I think it is pretty good. This doesn't mean I agree, BTW.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:21 AM
Mercker in to pitch the 9th.

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 01:21 AM
Who's gonna close the ninth? Mercker?Belisle? Standridge? (Just Kidding,I think)

I would leave Weathers in there. (Unless they want Mercker in there to face lefties Counsell and Gonzalez.)

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 01:23 AM
Probably Belsile, because I think they named him closer.

Didn't know that. I was away for about a week and didn't hear much about the Reds in the mountains of Kentucky.

Matt700wlw
07-09-2005, 01:23 AM
It's Mercker

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:23 AM
My point is that the double-switch is a strategy. It wasn't made just because they wanted to get Romano in and take Peņa out. Nor was it made because the Reds management thinks the club is better with Romano than it is with Peņa. It was made because they wanted to move the pitcher's batting slot as far away from being at bat as possible.

You're right, but it gripes a lot of people to keep seeing Jason in the game and replacing much better players. In fact, I venture to guess that there a lot of better players in AAA (I can think of one in particular) who should be up with the big club who are constantly overlooked because of O'Brien's fascination with Romano and other Texas Ranger players. I say Texas needs DanO. We'll sell him cheap.

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:23 AM
McCracken strikes out. 1 out.

pedro
07-09-2005, 01:24 AM
Are you Dave Miley? ;)

i'm talking about RA. :)

Reds Fanatic
07-09-2005, 01:24 AM
Good play by Aurilia to throw Counsell out on the bunt attempt.

kyred14
07-09-2005, 01:24 AM
My point is that the double-switch is a strategy. It wasn't made just because they wanted to get Romano in and take Peņa out. Nor was it made because the Reds management thinks the club is better with Romano than it is with Peņa. It was made because they wanted to move the pitcher's batting slot as far away from being at bat as possible.

That's all fine and well, but not only was Romano pinch hit for, but Weathers also didn't even stay for a second. I understand what you are saying, but Narron didn't even carry out his orginal strategy(which I'm not convinced he had one to begin with)

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:24 AM
Counsell bunts, thrown out. 2 outs.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 01:25 AM
i'm talking about RA. :)

Oh..well then you're not Dave :D

CTA513
07-09-2005, 01:26 AM
Tracy flies out. 3 outs.

And this one belongs to the Reds!

Reds Fanatic
07-09-2005, 01:27 AM
Reds win 4-3!

kyred14
07-09-2005, 01:27 AM
Reds win

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 01:27 AM
:clap: Go Reds

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:27 AM
WE win. Thank you Junior. Thank you Rich. Thank you President Eisenhower and all the ships at sea...Uh... :beerme:

cumberlandreds
07-09-2005, 01:30 AM
:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

Nice win. For a last place team to come from three runs behind in the 8th inning to win the game show's they haven't completely jumped ship on this season. Pretty good pitching that I'll take for now. Griffey the star of the game. Huge three run homer. He's still gettin' it done!

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 01:34 AM
That's all fine and well, but not only was Romano pinch hit for, but Weathers also didn't even stay for a second. I understand what you are saying, but Narron didn't even carry out his orginal strategy(which I'm not convinced he had one to begin with)

The conditions of the game changed. I am sure that the lefty-hitting Cruz pinch-hitting for the righty-hitting Romano was an expected move, as a right-handed pitcher was throwing for the D-Backs. (Remember, a lefty was pitching when Romano pinch-hit for Ortiz. If a righty had been throwing for the D-Backs at that time, it may well could have been Cruz who would have pinch-hit for Ortiz, then stayed in as part of the double-switch.)

As for Weathers, I probably would have stayed with him, but after the Reds got the lead they evidently decided that they would prefer to have the lefty Mercker in to pitch, since Counsell (and possibly Gonzalez) would be hitting--and Mercker is better when he starts an inning.

WVRedsFan
07-09-2005, 01:35 AM
The conditions of the game changed. I am sure that the lefty-hitting Cruz pinch-hitting for the righty-hitting Romano was an expected move, as a right-handed pitcher was throwing for the D-Backs. (Remember, a lefty was pitching when Romano pinch-hit for Ortiz. If a righty had been throwing for the D-Backs at that time, if may well have been Cruz who would have pinch-hit for Ortiz, then stayed in as part of the double-switch.)

As for Weathers, I probably would have stayed with him, but after the Reds got the lead they evidently decided that they would prefer to have the lefty Mercker in to pitch, since Counsell (and possibly Gonzalez) would be hitting--and Mercker is better when he starts an inning.

Hey BK...check your PM's

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 01:37 AM
Hey BK...check your PM's

Thanks! I'll look into it! :)