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Matt700wlw
07-09-2005, 09:15 PM
Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
F. Lopez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .304
R. Olmedo 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .556
S. Casey 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .312
K. Griffey Jr. cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
J. Randa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .302
A. Dunn lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
J. Cruz rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .234
J. Valentin c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .245
B. Claussen p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .045
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Arizona
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
C. Counsell 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .277
R. Clayton ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .245
L. Gonzalez lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
T. Glaus 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
T. Clark 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .319
S. Green rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
L. Terrero cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .219
C. Snyder c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .218
B. Webb p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

OnBaseMachine
07-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Good to see Olmedo batting 2nd over Dunn. :rolleyes: I guess Dunn's .538 OBP in the two spot isn't needed. Plus Dunn makes Lopez that much better when hitting 2nd.

Dunn-batting 6th

.179/.292/.339

It almost seems like they want him to fail.

LvJ
07-09-2005, 09:55 PM
But Olmedo has a .500 OBP, and a 1.389 OPS. ;)

Falls City Beer
07-09-2005, 10:03 PM
Is there any reason why a young guy like Pena can't play every day? I can see spelling Griffey, but Pena? Oh well. As long as it's only one game.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 10:05 PM
Olmedo will end up with more at bats then Dunn

(since Puffy isn't here right now)

THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN

OnBaseMachine
07-09-2005, 10:20 PM
Graves just came into the game vs the Pirates. He served up a RBI double, walk and a grand slam to Jack Wilson.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Graves just came into the game vs the Pirates. He served up a RBI double, walk and a grand slam to Jack Wilson.

That's just painful now :(

Matt700wlw
07-09-2005, 10:22 PM
Graves just came into the game vs the Pirates. He served up a RBI double, walk and a grand slam to Jack Wilson.

He must be tipping his pitches.

Puffy
07-09-2005, 10:22 PM
Olmedo will end up with more at bats then Dunn

(since Puffy isn't here right now)

THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN

Olmedo should never get more at bats in a game then Casey, Griffey, Randa Dunn, Valentin or Cruz.

Did I just say Cruz?? What the heck? Maybe Olmedo should get more at bats in a game than Cruz, I make no judgments on that

Marc D
07-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Is there any reason why a young guy like Pena can't play every day? I can see spelling Griffey, but Pena? Oh well. As long as it's only one game.

I'm with you. If anyone needs frequent rest its Griffey, not 23 year old WMP.

But these same people decide to bat Casey 3rd and Dunn 6th every night so maybe its a good thing we don't think like them.

Big Klu
07-09-2005, 10:31 PM
Graves just came into the game vs the Pirates. He served up a RBI double, walk and a grand slam to Jack Wilson.

That's the best news I've heard all day! :D

BOOOOOO DANNY GRAVES!!!!!!!!

oneupper
07-09-2005, 10:32 PM
FWIW, it looks like Narron is taking a look at batter vs. pitcher before deciding who plays,

vs Webb

Aurilia 1 for 11 3K
Cruz 2 for 4
WMP 1 for 4 3K
LaRue 0 or 5 4K
Valentin 0 for 3 3BB
Casey 5 for 11

RedFanAlways1966
07-09-2005, 10:41 PM
Brandon Claussen... last 5 starts:
(1) June 11 vs. Orioles (W). 8.0IP, 1ER, 3H, 5K, 1BB.
(2) June 16 vs. Braves (L). 5.2IP, 3ER, 9H, 9K, 2BB.
(3) June 21 vs. Cards (W). 6.0IP, 3ER, 7H, 0K, 2BB.
(4) June 28 @ Cards (L). 6.0IP, 2ER, 4H, 6K, 1BB.
(5) July 3 vs. Astros (L). 6.0IP, 0ER, 5H, 4K, 1BB.

TOTAL: 2-3 record, 2.56 ERA, 1.11 WHIP.

* REDS score 10 runs & 11 runs in the 2 wins... 2 runs, 1 run, & 0 runs in the three losses.

* The REDS are 6-7 in games started by Claussen this year.

* 6 quality starts in 13 games. Low ERA of all starters at 3.64 (Harang, 4.12).

Crash Davis
07-09-2005, 10:42 PM
FWIW, it looks like Narron is taking a look at batter vs. pitcher before deciding who plays,

I've noticed that too -- he's been doing it regularly. I might not always agree with Narron's line-ups, but I think his head's in the right place. Miley, on the other hand...

OnBaseMachine
07-09-2005, 10:47 PM
Casey vs rhp-.286/.322/.362

July-.297/.297/.324

He just picked up his first RBI since June 25.

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 11:03 PM
Dunn hits into a Casey


SEE! Dunn can bat 3rd ;)

oneupper
07-09-2005, 11:19 PM
Did anyone notice that the two Brandons were born 8 days apart in 1979?

TRF
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Claussen has thrown 48 pitches in 2 innings?

ouch. he's lucky to have only given up 1 run.

Matt700wlw
07-09-2005, 11:28 PM
Brandon Webb is the type of pitcher the Reds need. Ground ball galore.

If only the Reds were in it....they could trade for him :D

IslandRed
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
Claussen has thrown 48 pitches in 2 innings?

I'm impressed with how he's pitched lately, but this is an Achilles Heel of his. He's averaging around 17 pitches per inning this year. Until he gets that down a bit, he's not going to get deep into games.

RedFanAlways1966
07-09-2005, 11:31 PM
Claussen has averaged 16.90 pitches/inning this year. 2nd highest on the staff behind Luke Hudson (18.41). The REDS starters as a whole have avg. 16.60 pitches/inning this year.

Lowest? Matt Belisle in 5 starts has averaged 15.29 pitches/inning.

TRF
07-09-2005, 11:36 PM
rey rey singles, casey flies out to left.

SteelSD
07-09-2005, 11:45 PM
Brandon Claussen- Pitches by Hitter:

1st Inning:

Counsell (LH)- 3 Pitches
Clayton (RH)- 8 Pitches
Gonzalez (LH)- 6 Pitches
Glaus (RH)- 8 Pitches

2nd Inning-

Tony Clark (SH= RH)- 3 Pitches
Shawn Green (LH)- 5 Pitches
Terrero (RH)- 5 Pitches
Snyder (RH)- 5 Pitches
Webb (RH)- 1 Pitch (Sac Bunt)
Counsell (LH)- 5 Pitches

3rd Inning:

Clayton (RH)- 6 Pitches
Gonzalez (LH)- 3 Pitches
Glaus (RH)- 6 Pitches

Average Pitches to LH Hitters (non-Pitcher): 4.40
Average Pitches to RH Hitters (non-Pitcher): 5.86

Claussen's seasonal OPS Against splits are nearly the same versus LH and RH hitters. But I wonder if his high pitch counts might not be at least partly attributable to needing more pitches to get RH hitters out. The numbers above are obviously a very very small sample size, but I'm just thinking out loud.

Aronchis
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
Brandon Claussen- Pitches by Hitter:

1st Inning:

Counsell (LH)- 3 Pitches
Clayton (RH)- 8 Pitches
Gonzalez (LH)- 6 Pitches
Glaus (RH)- 8 Pitches

2nd Inning-

Tony Clark (SH= RH)- 3 Pitches
Shawn Green (LH)- 5 Pitches
Terrero (RH)- 5 Pitches
Snyder (RH)- 5 Pitches
Webb (RH)- 1 Pitch (Sac Bunt)
Counsell (LH)- 5 Pitches

3rd Inning:

Clayton (RH)- 6 Pitches
Gonzalez (LH)- 3 Pitches
Glaus (RH)- 6 Pitches

Average Pitches to LH Hitters (non-Pitcher): 4.40
Average Pitches to RH Hitters (non-Pitcher): 5.86

Claussen's seasonal OPS Against splits are nearly the same versus LH and RH hitters. But I wonder if his high pitch counts might not be at least partly attributable to needing more pitches to get RH hitters out. The numbers above are obviously a very very small sample size, but I'm just thinking out loud.

Yep. Nothing 3mph on his fastball wouldn't fix. I tell you, the FrankenMiltaussen idea still has merit. ;)

KronoRed
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Yep. Nothing 3mph on his fastball wouldn't fix. I tell you, the FrankenMiltaussen idea still has merit. ;)

We have the technology, but who does the surgery? :evil:

oneupper
07-09-2005, 11:51 PM
Can someone tell my why Snyder was pitched to after Terrero stole second (w/ 2outs).

Webb 0 for 30...

SteelSD
07-09-2005, 11:53 PM
Can someone tell my why Snyder was pitched to after Terrero stole second (w/ 2outs).

Webb 0 for 30...

Who knows. Death by bottom of lineup stinks when you have a base open and an awful hitting pitcher on deck.

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:08 AM
Olmedo triples. One down.

Matt700wlw
07-10-2005, 12:08 AM
Ray's been juicin' :D

KronoRed
07-10-2005, 12:09 AM
"Casey the Reds best hitter with runners in scoring position"

Hyperbole.com

kyred14
07-10-2005, 12:12 AM
OMG!! Casey walked!

flyer85
07-10-2005, 12:13 AM
is that a soft walk?

KronoRed
07-10-2005, 12:14 AM
He should have grounded out

BCubb2003
07-10-2005, 12:16 AM
I got to see Curt Schilling in Syracuse tonight begin his career as a closer. He was staked to an 8-run lead, including a grand slam by Roberto Petagine.

Super_Barry11
07-10-2005, 12:17 AM
Ok, does anyone know anything about mlb.tv??? It's not working for me, and this is the 2nd night in a row. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: I had been using my friend's account for a couple months, but then this week, I finally felt bad and bought my own account. It worked fine for the San Fran games, but it hasn't worked AT ALL the past couple days. It starts off really choppy, and then my entire browser freezes up and I have to close everything out. I have no idea what to do, and I really wanna watch the games!! I HATE living in Cleveland during the summer!!! :angry: :bang: :thumbdown

BCubb2003
07-10-2005, 12:18 AM
Ok, does anyone know anything about mlb.tv??? It's not working for me, and this is the 2nd night in a row. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: I had been using my friend's account for a couple months, but then this week, I finally felt bad and bought my own account. It worked fine for the San Fran games, but it hasn't worked AT ALL the past couple days. It starts off really choppy, and then my entire browser freezes up and I have to close everything out. I have no idea what to do, and I really wanna watch the games!! I HATE living in Cleveland during the summer!!! :angry: :bang: :thumbdown

You might try emptying the cache in the browser. It worked for me the other day.

Falls City Beer
07-10-2005, 12:20 AM
I really disagree with the oft-believed notion that you should swing on the first pitch after a long at-bat in the prior at-bat.

Super_Barry11
07-10-2005, 12:20 AM
You might try emptying the cache in the browser. It worked for me the other day.

Ok, thanks, I'll give it a go... I know next to nothing about computers, so that doesn't help me any!! :)

BCubb2003
07-10-2005, 12:24 AM
Ok, thanks, I'll give it a go... I know next to nothing about computers, so that doesn't help me any!! :)

In the drop-down menus at the top of your browser you probably have a place that says empty cache. It might be under preferences, then under advanced.

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:31 AM
Brandon Webb is getting a Greg Maddux strike zone called for him tonight. When that happens, he's nearly unhittable.

Falls City Beer
07-10-2005, 12:33 AM
Brandon Webb is getting a Greg Maddux strike zone called for him tonight. When that happens, he's nearly unhittable.

I wish the Reds had him. Strike zone or no. He's freakin' tough.

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:35 AM
I wish the Reds had him. Strike zone or no. He's freakin' tough.

Yep. Agreed. I've had Webb on my fantasy team for a couple years now in my keeper league. I kept him because I felt that this season would be his true breakout year.

He's a good one. Wish we had anyone with his ability.

Matt700wlw
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Yep. Agreed. I've had Webb on my fantasy team for a couple years now in my keeper league. I kept him because I felt that this season would be his true breakout year.

He's a good one. Wish we had anyone with his ability.

Plus he's a ground ball pitcher...and a good one at that

Super_Barry11
07-10-2005, 12:38 AM
In the drop-down menus at the top of your browser you probably have a place that says empty cache. It might be under preferences, then under advanced.

Yep, I found it under tools and options... I usually empty that and the cookies, but I tried it again just now. However, I can't log in to mlb.tv because it says I've logged in too many times. Wonder how long I have to wait.... :confused: :thumbdown

Thanks, by the way! :)

MWM
07-10-2005, 12:40 AM
FCB, aren't you one of the guys who thought 2003 was a fluke for Webb?

Falls City Beer
07-10-2005, 12:43 AM
FCB, aren't you one of the guys who thought 2003 was a fluke for Webb?

I don't remember. It's possible. Since then, I've liked what I've seen. But that's how I operate--doubt to belief. ;)

MWM
07-10-2005, 12:45 AM
I don't remember. It's possible. Since then, I've liked what I've seen. But that's how I operate--doubt to belief. ;)

So when are you getting baptized? :p:

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:50 AM
If you want hyperbole, Grande said last Inning that Todd Coffey's first half has been a real positive for the Reds in 2005.

Now, I sure hope Coffey can give us something to look forward to in 2006, but so far:

.371 BA/.421 OBP/.569 SLG- .986 OPS Against

Eric Milton's OPS Against is .949. Of all NL pitchers who've thrown a baseball in anger this season, Coffey ranks 234th. But I guess when you've seen Paul Wilson (1.007) Rickey Stone (1.027), Danny Graves (1.027), Luke Hudson (1.060), and Joe Valentine (1.077) throw, .986 probably looks pretty good.

Yikes.

MWM
07-10-2005, 12:50 AM
Anything but a Casey here.

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:52 AM
Casey with a ground rule double. Tie ballgame.

Ground rule double prevented 2nd run from scoring.

Falls City Beer
07-10-2005, 12:53 AM
Walks will haunt. (the Lopez walk, not the Griffey one).

Matt700wlw
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
Casey with a ground rule double. Tie ballgame.

Ground rule double prevented 2nd run from scoring.

If he would only hit it softly... ;)

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
Randa with a swinging bunt. Snyder fields and tags Olmedo. Even if Snyder didn't get the tag applied, Olmedo may have been called out for running outside the baseline.

Two down.

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:56 AM
If he would only hit it softly... ;)

Ah yes, the 'ol "swing less hard". ;)

CrackerJack
07-10-2005, 12:57 AM
wow - opp field GS for Dunn

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:57 AM
Adam Dunn Grand Slam!!!!!!!!!!!!1

MWM
07-10-2005, 12:57 AM
How's THAT for FREAKING clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrCinatit
07-10-2005, 12:57 AM
grand slam, dunn...way to go, big guy!

Matt700wlw
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
....He just produced 4 runs...

BCubb2003
07-10-2005, 12:59 AM
He didn't want to swing at that one. He had that pitcher lined up for a game-winning walk.

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 12:59 AM
How's THAT for FREAKING clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RISP, Man on Third, Two Out, Close and Late, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc...

MWM
07-10-2005, 01:00 AM
Not that I mind, but why in the world was Webb still in the game?

deltachi8
07-10-2005, 01:00 AM
Come on Adam, ease up a bit and get the sac fly in, dont you know the virtue of playing small ball?

MWM
07-10-2005, 01:01 AM
RISP, Man on Third, Two Out, Close and Late, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc...

Anyone care to venture on over to mlb to see what denny and our other friend is saying?

oneupper
07-10-2005, 01:01 AM
Not that I mind, but why in the world was Webb still in the game?

D'backs 'pen is not good...

MWM
07-10-2005, 01:07 AM
OK, here we go. I can't make this stuff up, especially the part in bold.


Dunn- grand slam in the CLUTCH. The most mprobable, unbelievable, incredible thing. This isn't a good hitter folks, Its ADAM FREAKING DUNN. He's a TERRIBLE clutch hitter.


About time adam comes thru with a big hit. see if he would have done this a long time ago i think we possably could still be in the race but.........anyway that was a great hit

pedro
07-10-2005, 01:08 AM
Ever notice how Casey is lauded for being able to drive 1 run home with a single but Dunn is beat up for driving in 1 run by hiting a solo HR?

pedro
07-10-2005, 01:09 AM
OK, here we go. I can't make this stuff up, especially the part in bold.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 01:12 AM
BTW, we have a "new" poster on the Live board who is replying to every single thread; many times within 30-45 seconds of each other. It's impossible to read anything on that board because all the threads are getting pushed to page two. Suggestions?

OnBaseMachine
07-10-2005, 01:15 AM
BTW, we have a "new" poster on the Live board who is replying to every single thread; many times within 30-45 seconds of each other. It's impossible to read anything on that board because all the threads are getting pushed to page two. Suggestions?

Watch out krono! :p: achilles just registered today, and has 65 posts already!

Falls City Beer
07-10-2005, 01:16 AM
Watch out krono! :p: achilles just registered today, and has 65 posts already!

"Sing muse, of an angry young man...."

BoydsOfSummer
07-10-2005, 01:18 AM
Went to the can with my new issue of Baseball America only to return to a 4 run lead. Very nice. Sorry I missed Adam's ultimate sacrifice fly.

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 01:21 AM
Watch out krono! :p: achilles just registered today, and has 65 posts already!

He's systematically going through every post from the past few days and moving each up to the top.

I don't think he's a new poster at all.

Chip R
07-10-2005, 01:22 AM
BTW, we have a "new" poster on the Live board who is replying to every single thread; many times within 30-45 seconds of each other. It's impossible to read anything on that board because all the threads are getting pushed to page two. Suggestions?I just sent a PM to young Beavis and told him that he didn't need to reply to every post. Thanks for the heads up.

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
I just sent a PM to young Beavis and told him that he didn't need to reply to every post. Thanks for the heads up.

No problem. If you haven't already, you might want to check his IP to see if it matches certain known "problem" children.

Chip R
07-10-2005, 01:31 AM
No problem. If you haven't already, you might want to check his IP to see if it matches certain known "problem" children.I'd love to but I don't have the ability to do it. I think Paint can and obviously Boss and GIK can.

MrCinatit
07-10-2005, 01:36 AM
had a similar problem at anothe site i frequent. i and a couple of other moderators began PMing him every couple of minutes, keeping him busy there - 'tis rather difficult to increase one's post count while getting PMed by mods, who are constantly reminding you a good reputation is not had through a high post count.

KronoRed
07-10-2005, 01:36 AM
Adam Dunn rocks.

Expect most of the story to be about Casey though ;)

MWM
07-10-2005, 01:37 AM
Barry Zito is hitting 88 again with his fastball and his curve is biting again. Over his last 13 starts (since the end of April), his ERA is just under 3.0. His strikeouts are up and hitters are hitting around .215 against him (I don't have the OPS against for that time).

He'd be a GREAT pickup for a contending team and I bet someone is willing to overpay for him.

MWM
07-10-2005, 01:38 AM
The English language has no words to describe Jeff Brantley on TV. We need to invent a new one.

flyer85
07-10-2005, 01:40 AM
The English language has no words to describe Jeff Brantley on TV. We need to invent a new one.Isn't that what he does? I just love "hisself"

MWM
07-10-2005, 01:40 AM
Buster Olney just said Graves should have signed with Atlanta. That's silly. I mean Mazzone might be good, but there's not apitching coach alive who could help Danny right now.

OnBaseMachine
07-10-2005, 01:48 AM
I loathe Buster Olney.

Peter Gammons and Karl Ravech are really the only two I like on Baseball Tonight. Harold and Kruk look so confused when Gammons brings up OPS.

WVRedsFan
07-10-2005, 01:52 AM
BTW, we have a "new" poster on the Live board who is replying to every single thread; many times within 30-45 seconds of each other. It's impossible to read anything on that board because all the threads are getting pushed to page two. Suggestions?

Steel, I just went through his posts and he doesn't seem to be a troll. He apparently just found this board and is excited about posting. From reading, it seems you got through to him...at least I hope so. Man, that guy put out the posts. He must live with his computer.

Great game. I got in just in time to see Dunn's homerun. Looks like the D-Backs have the same problem we do. Putrid bullpenitis.

westofyou
07-10-2005, 01:53 AM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=574687&postcount=32

MWM
07-10-2005, 01:56 AM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=574687&postcount=32

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

KronoRed
07-10-2005, 01:57 AM
He could still be right ;)

SteelSD
07-10-2005, 01:59 AM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=574687&postcount=32

LOL!

Classic. :laugh:

KronoRed
07-10-2005, 02:01 AM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=574763&postcount=40

Maybe NJReds had it right ;)

WVRedsFan
07-10-2005, 02:22 AM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=574763&postcount=40

Maybe NJReds had it right ;)

Let's hope not, Krono. I'd like to see a couple more tomorrow!

lollipopcurve
07-10-2005, 10:56 AM
A few observations from what was a great game:

Dunn's opposite field HR was a thing of beauty. He has tremendous line drive power to left-center, and in my opinion if he learns to use it consistently he can become outrageously good. He does need to be encouraged to grow as a hitter -- and that's the area I'd like to see growth in.

Olmedo is a major league player. 2B, utility, whatever.

Claussen is legit, and I think he's going to get better. Fastball appears deceptive and uses it to both sides of the plate, good breaking pitch and pretty solid changeup.

I liked that Narron removed Claussen for Coffey when he did. In general, I think he's been much better than Miley in making pitching changes -- works the matchups better.

The back-door breaking ball Belisle struck out Clark on was as nasty a curve ball as I've seen in a while.

Super ballgame for the Reds!