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macro
07-14-2005, 02:23 PM
More than one player wore them, but here's one example.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/13/gallery.mlballstar/Tejada-trot.jpg

KronoRed
07-14-2005, 02:25 PM
Go faster jet stripes! WOOO

;)

shredda2000
07-14-2005, 02:27 PM
Probably use them to keep cooler. Cooler heads means no more Kenny Rogers incidents :thumbup:

macro
07-14-2005, 02:32 PM
Ahhh, look what I found. Paul Lukas' new Page 2 article on ESPN.com:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/050714


Forget about bragging rights, league pride, or home-field advantage for the World Series. If Major League Baseball really wants to increase interest in the All-Star Game, it should just do what it did a few nights ago in Detroit: Use the game to showcase a new uniform innovation.

In case you missed it, Uni Watch is referring to the new batting helmets that were worn during the game. The new lids featured a molded crown, side vents (http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/13/gallery.mlballstar/Tejada-trot.jpg), back vents (http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/MIDP142071223_lower.jpg), and slightly elongated earholes (http://espn.go.com/media/pg2/2005/0713/photo/eckstein_275.jpg). And for good measure, they slapped the All-Star Game logo on the back (http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/13/gallery.mlballstar/Texiara-Tejada.jpg) (a bit of logo creep that Uni Watch is willing to forgive, since the new helmets, rather surprisingly, didn't feature the MLB logo). Think of it as the baseball version of the Riddell Revolution (http://www.riddell.com/Images/RevFactshelmet_side.jpg).

Although a few players stuck with their regular helmets (http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/MIDP131071222_lower.jpg) -- sometimes for rather obvious reasons (http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/baseball/mlb/img8640989.jpg) -- Uni Watch estimates that about 85 percent of the players gave the new design a test drive.

Interestingly, there was no advance promotion for the new helmets (not that Uni Watch was aware of, at least), and all the MLB and Rawlings bigwigs were still in transit from Detroit as Uni Watch's deadline arrived, so the full story behind the new design -- including whether it will be used for regular-season games -- will have to wait. But it's worth noting that this type of helmet isn't exactly new: There's an inexpensive Rawlings version (http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1383546&cp=1178447.693899&parentPage=family) that's been floating around the mlb.com site for a while now, and Wilson makes something fairly similar (http://www.wwll.org/mercPhotos/helmet.JPG).

But if these features become permanent additions at the big-league level, they'd definitely stake out new ground in the design gap between MLB helmets and caps. Most fans don't realize this, but when Pirates GM Branch Rickey introduced helmets in 1953, he envisioned them replacing caps altogether: He coated the fiberglass lids with wool flocking (http://vintagecardtraders.org/virtual/60topps/60topps-055.jpg) to simulate (http://www.robs61topps.com/images/2575.jpg) the look of a cloth cap and had his players wear them in the field (http://www.mlb.com/mlb/images/hof2001/photos/ph_hof_maz235.jpg) -- even pitchers (http://www.vintagecardtraders.com/virtual/55topps/55topps-012.jpg). That experiment was short-lived, as players went back to wearing caps in the field and helmets were relegated to the batter's box (occasional exceptions like Dick Allen (http://www.finalshot.com/ThumbNails/WhiteSox/AllenRichie72TB.jpg) and John Olerud (http://www.thejournalnews.com/yankeegallery/101304/images/24.jpg) notwithstanding). But the flocked helmet, with its fuzzy, matte finish, became something of a Pirates trademark (http://www.martyspsagradedcards.com/17167.jpg) for a while, and occasionally showed up outside of Pittsburgh (http://www.jamescampion.com/mickey.jpg) too.

The notion of helmets simulating caps was shattered for good with the development of earflaps, which debuted in 1964 and probably looked as weird back then as the All-Star helmets do now. But at least earflaps are functional -- the features on display at the All-Star Game seem more like a transparent attempt to look edgy. Uni Watch can live with the extra vents (although, seriously, how much extra ventilation do you need for something that's only worn for a few minutes at a time?), but the molded shape looks totally bogus. And before some GM gets any bright ideas, let's get a preemptive restraining order to make sure nobody uses the new shape as an excuse to do something like this (http://www.softballjunk.com/images/wilson/helmets/helmets.jpg).

smith288
07-14-2005, 02:40 PM
I like the wool helmets...bring them back!

HotCorner
07-14-2005, 02:48 PM
Homer: Hey, what are all these holes?
Salesman: These are speed holes. They make the car go faster.

Blimpie
07-14-2005, 03:04 PM
While watching the game, my son and I noticed them immediately. There were a few guys that chose not to wear the new style helmet (Vlad Guerrero was one that I noticed).

macro
07-29-2005, 11:15 PM
Paul Lukas just issued an update on those weird-looking helmets. It looks like these may eventually become the norm...


Remember those new batting helmets (http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/13/gallery.mlballstar/Tejada-trot.jpg) that appeared without warning in the All-Star Game? Deadline and schedule pressures restricted Uni Watch to giving the story only partial coverage last time around (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/050714&num=0), but here's a fuller treatment, courtesy of Rawlings marketing manager Dan Cullinane. "The new design is similar to the retail version of our Coolflo helmet (http://shop.perfectgame.org/images/products/Softball/Rawlings/pgsb196/pgsb196_M.jpg)," he says. "It incorporates some of the design aspects of that while keeping with the silhouette of the basic MLB helmet. We'd been previewing it to teams for the past few months before the All-Star Game, and we found that 80 percent to 90 percent of the players really liked it."

Cullinane says the new helmet's venting makes it about 13 percent lighter than the standard version. As for the sort of reptilian-looking molded crown, of which Uni Watch is none too fond, it's essentially a branding move. "MLB doesn't allow outside logos on headwear," says Cullinane, "so this gives us the opportunity to kinda put our mark on the helmet without actually using the Rawlings logo."

So when will the new lids be showing up in regular-season games? "We have plans to have them worn in 2006, but things aren't settled yet in terms of the rest of this season," he says. "Certain players from certain teams are interested in them, but we don't have a huge inventory of these helmets yet, and there are lots of things that still need to be settled with the MLB office, the players' association, and so on."

Will this design eventually replace the standard helmet? "That would be my hope, yes, although it's way too soon to say," says Cullinane. "MLB generally grandfathers changes in, like they did with the earflap in '83, so it would probably be a gradual thing."

butlerbulldogs
07-29-2005, 11:37 PM
i doubt these get grandfathered in, because unlike the earflap, the new helmets serve no practical safety purpose

NastyBoys1990
07-29-2005, 11:41 PM
Homer: Hey, what are all these holes?
Salesman: These are speed holes. They make the car go faster.



love that

gm
07-30-2005, 12:01 AM
seriously, how much extra ventilation do you need for something that's only worn for a few minutes at a time?

OTOH..."air-conditioned" hockey-goalie masks for catchers/umps--there's a market for 'em

Unassisted
07-30-2005, 12:41 AM
i doubt these get grandfathered in, because unlike the earflap, the new helmets serve no practical safety purposeUnless there's money to be made for MLB, then all bets are off.

If anything, I'd think these would reduce the structural soundness of the helmet. No way a helmet with vent holes in it offers as much protection as a solid helmet.

macro
02-23-2006, 12:22 PM
Ready or not, here they come. Check out the paint job on this Mets helmet from Spring Training this week. Are they really going to wear these in a regular season game? What do you think of them? (By the way, isn't this bunter in danger of getting a finger broken?)

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/08991f12-a947-4b27-b80a-2c6538abbd1e.jpg

Joseph
02-23-2006, 12:27 PM
And that is why relievers should not take BP, at least closers.

I have no real opinion on the helmet, right now.

Jpup
02-23-2006, 12:31 PM
I'm guessing they are just for Spring, but I could be wrong. They look awful.:(

redsfan30
02-23-2006, 12:35 PM
Not sure what the point of the helmet change is, but I could care less. I think of a million other things in baseball before I think of they style of the batting helmets.

Tony Cloninger
02-23-2006, 01:02 PM
Call Mr. Blackwell and see what he thinks.

Just as bad as the George Hendrick pants look.

macro
02-23-2006, 01:08 PM
Not sure what the point of the helmet change is, but I could care less. I think of a million other things in baseball before I think of they style of the batting helmets.

Oh, I don't think anyone's claiming that this is the most pressing issue facing the sport today. Just something fun to talk about. To those who enjoy following the history and progression of sports uniforms and equipment, a change in the style of batting helmet used in MLB is historic.

JinAZ
02-23-2006, 01:33 PM
Ready or not, here they come. Check out the paint job on this Mets helmet from Spring Training this week. Are they really going to wear these in a regular season game? What do you think of them? (By the way, isn't this bunter in danger of getting a finger broken?)

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/08991f12-a947-4b27-b80a-2c6538abbd1e.jpg


Personally, I think it looks pretty sweet. Though it'd be better in red and black. -jinaz

RedsManRick
02-23-2006, 01:40 PM
Helmet isn't there for style. Use whatever does the best job and move on. If those protect just as well but vent a little better, I'm all for it! As for looks, get rid of pants that look like pajamas. Bring back the stirrup!

smith288
02-23-2006, 02:09 PM
Ready or not, here they come. Check out the paint job on this Mets helmet from Spring Training this week. Are they really going to wear these in a regular season game? What do you think of them? (By the way, isn't this bunter in danger of getting a finger broken?)

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/08991f12-a947-4b27-b80a-2c6538abbd1e.jpg

He is in danger of a broken finger and the least he is doing is not giving himself the best chance possible to direct the bunt where he wants it to go. Terrible bunting.

macro
02-23-2006, 02:38 PM
Personally, I think it looks pretty sweet. Though it'd be better in red and black. -jinaz

You know, I'd like to see what one of these would look like with Red on the front and black on the back, too. This design may render the old "bill-one-color / crown-another-color" designs obsolete. The next question would be, how do they duplicate the design on a cap?


Helmet isn't there for style. Use whatever does the best job and move on.

I agree, but there are millions of dollars to be made in collectibles based on helmet designs, both in MLB and the NFL. You're right that they should go with whatever is safest, though.


As for looks, get rid of pants that look like pajamas. Bring back the stirrup!

I agree 110%.


He is in danger of a broken finger and the least he is doing is not giving himself the best chance possible to direct the bunt where he wants it to go. Terrible bunting.

That's what I was thinking.

jmcclain19
02-23-2006, 04:14 PM
College teams have been going more and more over the last few years to this helmet. Not surprised to see it start catching on in the MLB.

Wouldn't be surprised if it more teams & players starting using it. I'm sure it will keep growing.

Johnny Footstool
02-23-2006, 05:22 PM
Welcome to the 21st Century.

I like the new style helmets. The blue-and-black Mets model looks pretty good, but I doubt we'll see many more two-toned styles, because greed-and-yellow (A's) or red-and-black (Reds) would look pretty dorky.

Blimpie
02-23-2006, 07:27 PM
I guess the vents on the side would have to help keep the old dome cooler than prior models.

For some reason, I can't keep from thinking about George Costanza's plan to switch the Yankees to "all cotton" uniforms because "cotton breathes"

Yachtzee
02-23-2006, 08:23 PM
Red and white would look better, but all red with a white wishbone "C" is best.

macro
07-14-2010, 12:05 AM
It's hard to believe it's been four years since we had the discussion above, but I thought I'd resurrect it to mention that at least some of the players are wearing this helmet (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090831&content_id=6709576&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb) tonight in the All Star Game.

It's funny how the helmets we thought were strange-looking four years ago are the norm today.

Screwball
07-14-2010, 12:13 AM
It's funny how the helmets we thought were strange-looking four years ago are the norm today.

I still think they look strange. Borderline comical even.

Ghosts of 1990
07-14-2010, 01:10 AM
hate the new helmets. I'm sure I'd get used to them.... but they're so big and war-helmet like!

RedsManRick
07-14-2010, 01:17 AM
Marvin the Martian

reds1869
07-14-2010, 01:22 AM
hate the new helmets. I'm sure I'd get used to them.... but they're so big and war-helmet like!

Perhaps the Reds could add teutonic spikes as a nod to the city's German heritage. Then when they lowered their heads going first to third everyone would clear a path.

macro
07-14-2010, 02:35 AM
Marvin the Martian

How about Gazoo of The Flintstones fame?

http://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/gazoo_300_dpi.jpg

macro
07-14-2010, 02:38 AM
I still think they look strange. Borderline comical even.

I've really come around to them. I thought they were odd at first, but now they seem "normal" and the older smooth helmets seem old-fashioned and out-dated.

RFS62
07-14-2010, 07:12 AM
http://www.5thandgoal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Dark-Helmet.jpg