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CTA513
07-17-2005, 01:17 PM
Reds Rockies
1. F Lopez, SS 1. C Sullivan, CF
2. R Aurilia, 2B 2. A Miles, 2B
3. S Casey, 1B 3. T Helton, 1B
4. K Griffey Jr., CF 4. E Byrnes, LF
5. J Randa, 3B 5. G Atkins, 3B
6. A Dunn, LF 6. J Piedra, RF
7. W Pena, RF 7. L Gonzalez, SS
8. J Valentin, C 8. J Closser, C
9. R Ortiz, P 9. J Wright, P

Game Time: 1:15 pm
Radio: WLW 700

Jpup
07-17-2005, 01:28 PM
:rant2:

flyer85
07-17-2005, 01:31 PM
:rant2:Aurilia got on base 4 times yesterday(had been 12 for last 62). Another month in the 2 hole and I predict he will remain the starter when Freel comes back

Jpup
07-17-2005, 01:37 PM
i just don't get it. why bat your best hitter 6th?

flyer85
07-17-2005, 01:46 PM
i just don't get it. why bat your best hitter 6th?or your worst hitter bat 2nd?

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 01:53 PM
Aurilia got on base 4 times yesterday(had been 12 for last 62). Another month in the 2 hole and I predict he will remain the starter when Freel comes back

In another month, he should be wearing another team's uniform

RedRoser
07-17-2005, 01:57 PM
Yes he "should be," but should be's just don't seem to come around too often in this organization. :help:
Ray Olmedo and Ryan Freel can play 2nd base and give the team equal (probably better) production.
I hope we deal RA. Nothing personal, just like the younger guys better and believe they should play.

---RedRoser

Ravenlord
07-17-2005, 02:04 PM
Aurila
Month/OPS/AB
April/641/67
May/402/37
June/969/69
July/643/42
Overall/722/216

get rid of the month long flash in the pan.

flyer85
07-17-2005, 02:10 PM
In another month, he should be wearing another team's uniformright now would be even better

Jpup
07-17-2005, 02:12 PM
Aurila
Month/OPS/AB
April/641/67
May/402/37
June/969/69
July/643/42
Overall/722/216

get rid of the month long flash in the pan.

I think your numbers or mine are a little off.

April .641
May .402
June .968
July .708/43 AB

Total .722 per ESPN.com

It all boils down to one thing.....he stinks. Olmedo should be playing 2nd until Freel gets back.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:17 PM
Sullivan singles.

Ravenlord
07-17-2005, 02:18 PM
I think your numbers or mine are a little off.

April .641
May .402
June .968
July .708/43 AB

Total .722 per ESPN.comi used the numbers at Reds.mlb.com

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:19 PM
Miles strikes out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:24 PM
Helton walks.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:28 PM
Byrnes pops out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:31 PM
Atkins flies out. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:32 PM
Ortiz with 26 pitches in the 1st inning.

MrCinatit
07-17-2005, 02:33 PM
just as bad as Aurilia batting 2nd and Dunn 6th is Pena 7th - having two of your better, young hitters batting in the 6 and 7 hole is no way to win ball games now, nor is it a way to teach them to win ball games in the future.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 02:35 PM
just as bad as Aurilia batting 2nd and Dunn 6th is Pena 7th - having two of your better, young hitters batting in the 6 and 7 hole is no way to win ball games now, nor is it a way to teach them to win ball games in the future.

Hopefully Leyland will be here to teach them how to win next year.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:35 PM
Lopez grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:37 PM
Aurilia singles.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 02:38 PM
Aurilia singles.

was it a single or an error actually? i am listening to Marty and he said it went off the glove.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:39 PM
Casey strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:39 PM
was it a single or an error actually? i am listening to Marty and he said it went off the glove.

It was scored as a hit.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 02:39 PM
It was scored as a hit.

thanks.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:40 PM
Griffey walks.

Kc61
07-17-2005, 02:40 PM
just as bad as Aurilia batting 2nd and Dunn 6th is Pena 7th - having two of your better, young hitters batting in the 6 and 7 hole is no way to win ball games now, nor is it a way to teach them to win ball games in the future.

Maybe the team would prefer to have veterans in the pressure slots in the lineup, and have younger hitters lower down. Maybe they think Casey and Griffey are more consistent than Dunn and Pena. Maybe they don't want all those strikeouts in the middle of the lineup.

Actually, I wouldn't disagree if Dunn hit higher up, but I just think there is too much emphasis on these lineup configurations. I think Narron's lineups arre reasonable. The Reds score plenty with this lineup.

These lineup issues are minor. The problem is pitching and, to some extent, defense.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 02:41 PM
The Reds score plenty with this lineup.

you can never score enough runs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:43 PM
Randa pops out. 3 outs.

No score after 1 inning.

WVRedsFan
07-17-2005, 02:43 PM
Randa, in a horrible slump, pops up to end the inning.

0-0 end of one.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 02:43 PM
well that's great, Dunn gets to lead off again. ;)

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:47 PM
Piedra grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:47 PM
Gonzalez doubles.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 02:49 PM
Alternate programming note: Jennie Finch pitching on ESPN

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 02:49 PM
Watching Ortiz pitch is akin to watching a drunk man balance on a railing above Niagara Falls.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:50 PM
Closser strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:51 PM
Wright strikes out. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:55 PM
Dunn flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:56 PM
Pena grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 02:57 PM
Valentin lines out. 3 outs.

No score after 2 innings.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:00 PM
Sullivan singles.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:02 PM
Miles bunts Sullivan over to 2nd. 1 out.

15fan
07-17-2005, 03:02 PM
Sullivan singles.

Attaboy, Cory.

2 fer 2.

Go Deacs!

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:03 PM
Helton singles, 1 run scores.

1-0 Rockies

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:04 PM
Byrnes flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:06 PM
Atkins strikes out. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:09 PM
Ortiz strikes out. 1 out.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 03:09 PM
This lineup hasn't led us to many victorys ;)

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:10 PM
Lopez flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:12 PM
Aurilia grounds out. 3 outs.

1-0 Rockies after 3 innings.

Chip R
07-17-2005, 03:13 PM
Alternate programming note: Jennie Finch pitching on ESPNThank you! :D

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:14 PM
Piedra pops out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:16 PM
Gonzalez grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:18 PM
Closser strikes out. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:21 PM
Casey flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:23 PM
Griffey walks.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:25 PM
I was looking at Ortiz profile on the Reds website and his first name is Diogenes.

Diogenes Ramon Ortiz

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:26 PM
Randa strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:27 PM
Dunn pops out. 3 outs.

1-0 Rockies after 4 innings.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:29 PM
Wright pops out. 1 out.

flyer85
07-17-2005, 03:30 PM
EE has hit HR #15 today

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:30 PM
Sullivan pops out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:31 PM
Miles singles.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:32 PM
Helton flies out. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:35 PM
Pena lines out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:37 PM
Valentin grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:39 PM
Ortiz strikes out. 3 outs.

1-0 Rockies after 5 innings.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:42 PM
Byrnes grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:44 PM
Atkins pops out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:44 PM
Piedra strikes out. 3 outs.

TRF
07-17-2005, 03:46 PM
Ortiz is pitching a nice game. Only a few balls hit hard, and he's settling into a groove. As hard as some of the balls hit off Wright, it's amazing he's only given up 1 hit.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 03:47 PM
With concern of the same downward spiral I began last night, what has gotten into these starting pitchers? Is the Rockies offense really that bad?

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:48 PM
Lopez strikes out. 1 out.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 03:48 PM
Is the Rockies offense really that bad?

Yes it is.

The Rockies are a terrible team, we should sweep them.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 03:49 PM
Ortiz is pitching a nice game. Only a few balls hit hard, and he's settling into a groove. As hard as some of the balls hit off Wright, it's amazing he's only given up 1 hit.

If you ever want to beat the Cards or the Reds in the playoffs, acquire Wright. He's absolutely drubbed the Reds and Cards.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:49 PM
Aurilia grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:51 PM
Casey Homers!!!

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 03:51 PM
Casey Homers!!!

The Rockies are worse then I thought :laugh:

Buckeye33
07-17-2005, 03:51 PM
Casey Homers!!!

:eek:

I nearly stopped breathing when I read that.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:51 PM
Griffey Homers!!!!!!!!!!!

2-1 Reds

TeamCasey
07-17-2005, 03:52 PM
Woohoo!

Reds Nd2
07-17-2005, 03:52 PM
Casey gets his HR at GABP this season.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 03:52 PM
Griffey! AGAIN!!!

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 03:52 PM
JR :clap:

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 03:52 PM
The Rockies blow corn.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:52 PM
Randa doubles!

TRF
07-17-2005, 03:52 PM
indirectly i called this.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 03:53 PM
I tell you what...this is the Ken Griffey Jr the Reds traded for 5 years ago.

It is truely something to see him healthy

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:54 PM
Dunn intentionally walked.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 03:54 PM
I tell you what...this is the Ken Griffey Jr the Reds traded for 5 years ago.

It is truely something to see him healthy

trade him. :evil:

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 03:55 PM
He came apart in a hurry

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 03:55 PM
If Casey can get to 10 home runs by the trade deadline, he will be shipped. I think he may know this, and is trying to figure out if he wants to stay or not.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 03:56 PM
He came apart in a hurry

3 pitches = 2 home runs and a double, I would say yeah, he did.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 03:56 PM
3 pitches = 2 home runs and a double, I would say yeah, he did.

Reds like :D

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 03:56 PM
trade him. :evil:

I've said for years if the Reds can get out from under his salary, and he can stay healthy, you have to trade him.


The more I see him healthy, the more I don't want to trade him

Jpup
07-17-2005, 03:56 PM
If Casey can get to 10 home runs by the trade deadline, he will be shipped. I think he may know this, and is trying to figure out if he wants to stay or not.

:laugh:

Hope Minaya is watching.

TeamBoone
07-17-2005, 03:57 PM
:jump: Griffey ties McCovey!

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:58 PM
Pena walks, bases loaded for Valentin.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 03:58 PM
Where is that pitche that Wily Mo keeps fouling, Gameday has it right at the heart of the plate. If Mo can't hit it, he must be in a slump.

Mo walks, bases juiced for Javier Valentino.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:58 PM
Grand Slam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6-1 Reds

The_jbh
07-17-2005, 03:59 PM
I tell you what...this is the Ken Griffey Jr the Reds traded for 5 years ago.

It is truely something to see him healthy

Amen, i'm loving it...

as for trading him... bah i'm going to enjoy watching him retire as a red

Jpup
07-17-2005, 03:59 PM
:eek:

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 03:59 PM
Wow this guy just imploded

CTA513
07-17-2005, 03:59 PM
Is the lead big enough to see Ortiz get the Reds first complete game of the year?

Kc61
07-17-2005, 04:00 PM
Too bad Narron used this terrible lineup today.

As I've said, the key is the guy hitting ninth. The rest is minor.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:00 PM
Ortiz grounds out. 3 outs.

6-1 Reds after 6 innings.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 04:00 PM
Is the lead big enough to see Ortiz get the Reds first complete game of the year?

very doubtful.

Chip R
07-17-2005, 04:00 PM
The money shot for Valentin! :evil:

flyer85
07-17-2005, 04:00 PM
hooray for smallball!! :beerme:

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:00 PM
Wow. Grand salami porn stache. Go Reds.

What were you saying about Wright, FCB?

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:01 PM
very doubtful.

To bad its not Harang pitching because we know he can throw 120 pitches with out a problem, dont know if Ortiz can.

Aronchis
07-17-2005, 04:01 PM
Of course, then Griffey goes 0-25 and you want to trade him again. One of Griffey or Casey need to be traded, let it be said.

Wright completely fell apart ala Reds pitcher.

Reds Nd2
07-17-2005, 04:01 PM
:jump: Griffey ties McCovey!

Also ties Ted Williams. Only 13 away from being tied with Jimmie Foxx.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:02 PM
I think this game is over...

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:03 PM
To bad its not Harang pitching because we know he can throw 120 pitches with out a problem, dont know if Ortiz can.

I do know, and he can. :mooner:

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 04:03 PM
Also ties Ted Williams. Only 13 away from being tied with Jimmie Foxx.
Not bad company.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:03 PM
Gonzalez grounds out. 1 out.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:04 PM
So, can Griffey make it into the Hall of Fame when he retires? :D

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:04 PM
Closser homers.

6-2 Reds.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 04:05 PM
We need more runs

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:06 PM
I think this game is over...


...Or not :bang:

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:06 PM
I do know, and he can. :mooner:

Nevermind, he is losing control, getting tired, and starting to get hit hard.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:06 PM
Garabito doubles.

Forget about Ortiz going a complete game.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:06 PM
Jennie Finch won again

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:06 PM
Garabito doubles.

Forget about Ortiz going a complete game.

I give him one more batter to screw this up.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:07 PM
Shackelford warming up.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:08 PM
Wow. Grand salami porn stache. Go Reds.

What were you saying about Wright, FCB?

The Casey homer rattled him. ;) It would rattle me, too. It's like being struck by lightning, winning the lottery, and a camel fitting through the eye of the needle all at once, a Casey homer.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:08 PM
Sullivan homers.

6-4 Reds

Ortiz fell apart.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:08 PM
Shackelford coming in to pitch.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 04:09 PM
Anyone know what Ortiz's era after the 4th is?

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:09 PM
Could the wind be blowing out to right center?

Jpup
07-17-2005, 04:09 PM
good thing the Reds played small ball last inning. :p:

flyer85
07-17-2005, 04:10 PM
I can't believe some thought this game was over. The Reds pitching is worse than the ROcks. Could you imagine what the Reds hitters would do to Reds pitching?

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:10 PM
Anyone know what Ortiz's era after the 4th is?

He has bullpen arm written all over him. The sooner September gets here, the sooner we can all see if Kelly can handle the majors, and Ortiz can get out of the rotation.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:10 PM
Anyone know what Ortiz's era after the 4th is?

6.30 ERA

It was down to 6.01 untill the 3 runs he just game up.

edit.. are you asking his ERA after the 4 inning or 4th run?

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:10 PM
I've got a superbad feeling this game will be a Reds L. Just has that momentum-shift feeling to it.

Reds Nd2
07-17-2005, 04:11 PM
We need more runs

The Reds and Rockies have played eight one run ball games against each other. The Reds have won all of them.

PuffyPig
07-17-2005, 04:11 PM
Anyone know what Ortiz's era after the 4th is?

He got it down to 5.99 befotre the explosion.

15fan
07-17-2005, 04:11 PM
Cory Sullivan - a 15fan cyber-draft pick.

:thumbup:

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:11 PM
Could the wind be blowing out to right center?

Doh. Per Gameday:

Wind/Weather
0mph/None
80* Overcast

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:11 PM
If this team only had some offense.... ;)

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:12 PM
Miles grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:13 PM
Helton singles.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 04:13 PM
He has bullpen arm written all over him. The sooner September gets here, the sooner we can all see if Kelly can handle the majors, and Ortiz can get out of the rotation.

I think the same, I know he loathes the bullpen but he stinks as a starter.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:13 PM
Coffey coming in to pitch.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 04:14 PM
I think the same, I know he loathes the bullpen but he stinks as a starter.

wonder if he can play second?

PuffyPig
07-17-2005, 04:14 PM
I've got a superbad feeling this game will be a Reds L. Just has that momentum-shift feeling to it.

You pretty much think the same thing every game, don't you?

Have you considered the fact that it's might be just some bad mayonaise you ate? :)

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:14 PM
Coffey? :scared:

Aronchis
07-17-2005, 04:15 PM
Steve Kelly should never see the majors. He isn't a major league arm.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:15 PM
You pretty much think the same thing every game, don't you?

Have you considered the fact that it's might be just some bad mayonaise you ate? :)

Hey, when the Reds stop proving me right....I'll sing a different tune.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:16 PM
The Good news is Ortiz is not due up again until after Chicago leaves, against the Brewers. Good = tongue in cheek.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:16 PM
Byrnes flies out. 3 outs.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:16 PM
The Good news is Ortiz is not due up again until after Chicago leaves, against the Brewers. Good = tongue in cheek.

Bad News is Hudson will face Prior.

:laugh:

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:17 PM
That was one DEEP flyout to left.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:17 PM
Steve Kelly should never see the majors. He isn't a major league arm.

Now that we've DLed Wagner, we only have one other arm on the MLB roster who has no business on a MLB roster: Coffey. Hey, we're gettin' there. ;)

Aronchis
07-17-2005, 04:18 PM
Now that we've DLed Wagner, we only have one other arm on the MLB roster who has no business on a MLB roster: Coffey. Hey, we're gettin' there. ;)

Actually, Coffey and Wagner have every business of being on a major league roster, the worm has turned.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:19 PM
Now that we've DLed Wagner, we only have one other arm on the MLB roster who has no business on a MLB roster: Coffey. Hey, we're gettin' there. ;)

Standridge deserves to be in the MLB?

:eek:

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:20 PM
Now that we've DLed Wagner, we only have one other arm on the MLB roster who has no business on a MLB roster: Coffey. Hey, we're gettin' there. ;)

Machado has arms, doesn't he? ;)

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:20 PM
Actually, Coffey and Wagner have every business of being on a major league roster, the worm has turned.

Nah, both guys need at LEAST another full season at triple-A of actually retiring hitters.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:21 PM
Lopez flies out. 1 out.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:21 PM
Standridge deserves to be in the MLB?

:eek:

You got to have SOME mop-up. Wagner and Coffey have upsides--they need to dominate AAA first. They're getting kicked around mercilessly.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:21 PM
So, with the other outfielders hitting like crazy, does Kelly get in tomorrow to spell Wily Mo for a day before Freel gets called up?

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:24 PM
The Rockies only have one guy on their 25 man with an ERA under 4, bullpen included. The Reds may have the worst ERA in baseball, but their staff covers a much wider spectrum than the Rocks. The Rockies are consistantly bad, the Reds go from good to horrible.

Jpup
07-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Pedro has a 2 hit shutout going against Atlanta.

Aronchis
07-17-2005, 04:24 PM
You got to have SOME mop-up. Wagner and Coffey have upsides--they need to dominate AAA first. They're getting kicked around mercilessly.

They do? In some teams case, yes, but not on this team, they are getting their knocks on the major league level which will benefit them in the future. Coffey also needs to reup his fastball and ditch the sinker.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Aurilia walks.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:26 PM
Casey grounds in to his 23rd double play. 3 outs.

6-4 Reds after 7 innings.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:26 PM
He's back.

PuffyPig
07-17-2005, 04:27 PM
Casey usually hits his HR's in bunches.

Here's hopin'.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:27 PM
23 DPs...that's sad. And why he is still batting 3rd, I will never know

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:27 PM
Casey grounds in to his 23rd double play. 3 outs.

6-4 Reds after 7 innings.

If Narron puts him in at 3rd again tomorrow, I might go buy a ticket just to tell him in person what a bad idea it is.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:28 PM
They do? In some teams case, yes, but not on this team, they are getting their knocks on the major league level which will benefit them in the future. Coffey also needs to reup his fastball and ditch the sinker.

There's a world of difference between taking your lumps and being destroyed consistently. Claussen and Harang are taking their lumps this season, fighting through the ups and downs. Wagner and Coffey are getting kicked like country hounds.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:29 PM
Atkins grounds out. 1 out.

Fullboat
07-17-2005, 04:29 PM
23 DPs...that's sad


Whats sad is we are avertiseing it like crazy :bang: :bang:

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:30 PM
There's a world of difference between taking your lumps and being destroyed consistently. Claussen and Harang are taking their lumps this season, fighting through the ups and downs. Wagner and Coffey are getting kicked like country hounds.

It seems Coffey is in that taking your lumps mold as well, while hopefully Wagner is just injured.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:32 PM
Piedra singles.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:32 PM
It seems Coffey is in that taking your lumps mold as well, while hopefully Wagner is just injured.

Coffey's got a .960 OPS Against; his ERA is amazingly low considering. That doesn't project really well.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:32 PM
The Reds have 11 outs to not screw this up. I hope they manage.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:33 PM
Weathers coming in to pitch.

Aronchis
07-17-2005, 04:33 PM
There's a world of difference between taking your lumps and being destroyed consistently. Claussen and Harang are taking their lumps this season, fighting through the ups and downs. Wagner and Coffey are getting kicked like country hounds.

I don't agree. Coffey obviously has been "sinkered" by the Reds staff coupled with fall ball, doesn't have the zip that would help his "inexperience" be dulled, but he has had his moments. Wagner has been injured and is a bit of a bull head in many respects.

I wonder if either can fit the organizational philosophy of 2 seamers and "pitch to contract" and both are full effort guys.

At this point, experience on the major league level and learning is key. Your ship sailed with Graves went down. Time to get on board of the new ship.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:35 PM
Gonzalez flies out. 2 outs.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:37 PM
Coffey:

10.03 ERA vs. Lefties - 1.37 WHIP - K/bb 4.00
2.95 ERA vs. Righties - 1.96 WHIP - K/bb 1.90

Ouch. It is very telling of a lucky pitcher. I can't figure out why he has been so lucky?

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:38 PM
Closser strikes out. 3 outs.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:38 PM
Closser the tosser K's.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:40 PM
The Reds need breathing room. Cmon heart of the order!

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:42 PM
Junior OPSing 1.313 for July, .910 on the season. He is hot right now, but I still think there is no debate he has returned to elite status.

Edit: Make that 1.321 and .911 after that 3rd walk.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:42 PM
Griffey walks for the 3rd time today.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 04:42 PM
Griffey walks for the 3rd time today.
Put him 3rd with Dunn behind him.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:43 PM
Randa lines out. 1 out.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:45 PM
Weathers, Keisler or Merker in the ninth?

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:45 PM
Dunn walks.

FlyingPig
07-17-2005, 04:46 PM
Wow!

I just got here and see that Jr. homered AGAIN and Casey even went yard?

:eek:

And the Reds are ahead this late in a game?

Dare I say...swee....

nope...not gonna jinx it..

:oops:

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:47 PM
Pena strikes out. 2 outs.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:48 PM
Man, two teams that have fallen facefirst in the mud right out of the second-half gate: Cleveland and Houston. Ouch. Time to sell instead of add?

flyer85
07-17-2005, 04:48 PM
kinda easy to see which Reds hitters the pitchers want no part of. Jr has 3 walks and Dunn has 2 in the game.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:50 PM
Valentin Homers!!!!!!!!!!!

9-4 Reds

7 RBIs for Valentin!

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 04:50 PM
Valentin...

He's getting himself some nice trade value ;)

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:50 PM
Weathers, Keisler or Merker in the ninth?

Now with the Reds up 9-4 you might see Keisler or Standridge.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:51 PM
Ok, what is going on? Who is this guy, and where did he master the powers of the stache?

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:51 PM
1st time a Red has homered from both sides of the plate since Pete Rose in 1967.

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:51 PM
Javy the Pimp. Career year, baby.

FlyingPig
07-17-2005, 04:51 PM
Somebody Hide Valentin's Bat!

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:52 PM
Kelly batting for Weathers.

Big Klu
07-17-2005, 04:52 PM
Even more impressive is that he actually hit a HR right-handed!

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:52 PM
1st time a Red has homered from both sides of the plate since Pete Rose in 1967.

That's some good company

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:52 PM
Kelly grounds out. 3 outs.

9-4 Reds after 8 innings.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:53 PM
I would venture to say this qualifies as pay back for that debacle in Colorado. Although, not as much as I would like, with Wilson being gone, and this being Colorado lite.

NDRed
07-17-2005, 04:54 PM
What's the Reds record for RBI's in a game?

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:55 PM
What's the Reds record for RBI's in a game?

I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if #14 holds it

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:55 PM
Mercker pitching the 9th.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:56 PM
FCB, I am surprised you did not include Hudson on your list of pitchers who don't belong in Cincinnati. Him along with Standridge, since Milton't late season surge, represent the only pitchers the Reds have with ERAs above 7, at 9.85 and 8.31 disrespectfully.

PuffyPig
07-17-2005, 04:56 PM
1st time a Red has homered from both sides of the plate since Pete Rose in 1967.

Geez, what are the odds of that happening???

Quick, someone call Pete and get the line...

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:56 PM
Relaford flies out. 1 out.

NDRed
07-17-2005, 04:56 PM
Valentine 6 hr's and 22 RBI's in 106 at bats.

Reds Nd2
07-17-2005, 04:56 PM
What's the Reds record for RBI's in a game?

10 by Walker Cooper. 7/6/49 vs. Chicago Cubs.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 04:57 PM
Farnsworth got in a fight in Detroit against Castillo.

Yes, a fight in Detroit

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:57 PM
This just dawned on me: even the Bad News Bears stopped sucking eventually.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:57 PM
Mohr pops out. 2 outs.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:58 PM
10 by Walker Cooper. 7/6/49 vs. Chicago Cubs.

:eek:

After the 6th or 7th RBI, why would you still pitch to the guy?

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:58 PM
Farnsworth got in a fight in Detroit against Castillo.

Yes, a fight in Detroit

Farnsworth always getting in fights. ;)

Falls City Beer
07-17-2005, 04:58 PM
FCB, I am surprised you did not include Hudson on your list of pitchers who don't belong in Cincinnati. Him along with Standridge, since Milton't late season surge, represent the only pitchers the Reds have with ERAs above 7, at 9.85 and 8.31 disrespectfully.

Well, I guess I was just thinking bullpen, but you're right, Hudson has absolutely no business pitching in the majors--weak shoulder or no (and I happen to think he does have a weak shoulder).

CTA513
07-17-2005, 04:59 PM
:eek:

After the 6th or 7th RBI, why would you still pitch to the guy?

Probably the same reason the Reds kept on pitching to Derrek Lee even though Lee was crushing Reds pitching.

NDRed
07-17-2005, 04:59 PM
Most RBIs -- 10 Walker Cooper Chicago 7/6/49

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 04:59 PM
Is anyone else disappointed to see Merker wasted today. You would think with a 5 run lead, he could be saved for a rainy day, especially after pitching the past 2 days.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 05:00 PM
Miles singles.

Helton hit by pitch.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 05:01 PM
Is anyone else disappointed to see Merker wasted today. You would think with a 5 run lead, he could be saved for a rainy day, especially after pitching the past 2 days.

I thought they would use Keisler or Standridge, it would make more since to use Mercker in a situation were you really need him in a close game.

Tony Cloninger
07-17-2005, 05:02 PM
I saw the fight (MLB EI)

The KC pitcher threw at Guillen.....right at his head......CG gets up....get mad and walks toward the SP.

The SP is as big as WMP....so he does not exactly get charged at....CG waits for some backup. Then the SP taunts CG.....and the Tigers get pissed.

The announcers (Tigers PBP) are all over the SP for throwing at CG head....and his taunting.

KF body slams someone who is as big as he is.

Lance Parrish tells Castillo to shut up and get back to his dugout. He pushes him back towards the KC dugout. Jose Limas clams Castillo down....then does a peace dance.

About 5 players ejected.

Matt700wlw
07-17-2005, 05:02 PM
Is anyone else disappointed to see Merker wasted today. You would think with a 5 run lead, he could be saved for a rainy day, especially after pitching the past 2 days.

If it were rainy, there probably wouldn't be baseball.

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 05:02 PM
I thought they would use Keisler or Standridge, it would make more since to use Mercker in a situation were you really need him in a close game.

They might end up using one of them anyways. Merker not too impressive so far.

CTA513
07-17-2005, 05:03 PM
Byrnes strikes out.

Reds sweep Rockies.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 05:03 PM
Go Reds :clap:

FlyingPig
07-17-2005, 05:04 PM
Isn't that 7 wins in the last 10 games?


not to mention the last 3 series?

:rockband:

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 05:04 PM
There should be a broom emoticon.

KronoRed
07-17-2005, 05:05 PM
Isn't that 7 wins in the last 10 games?


not to mention the last 3 series?

:rockband:

Helps to play the teams that are worse then your team ;)

CTA513
07-17-2005, 05:06 PM
I saw the fight (MLB EI)

The KC pitcher threw at Guillen.....right at his head......CG gets up....get mad and walks toward the SP.

The SP is as big as WMP....so he does not exactly get charged at....CG waits for some backup. Then the SP taunts CG.....and the Tigers get pissed.

The announcers (Tigers PBP) are all over the SP for throwing at CG head....and his taunting.

KF body slams someone who is as big as he is.

Lance Parrish tells Castillo to shut up and get back to his dugout. He pushes him back towards the KC dugout. Jose Limas clams Castillo down....then does a peace dance.

About 5 players ejected.


Ejections: Kansas City Royals catcher Alberto Castillo ejected by HP umpire Marty Foster. (6th); Kansas City Royals right fielder Emil Brown ejected by HP umpire Marty Foster. (6th); Detroit Tigers pitcher Kyle Farnsworth ejected by HP umpire Marty Foster. (6th); Detroit Tigers pitcher Jeremy Bonderman ejected by HP umpire Marty Foster. (6th); Detroit Tigers shortstop Carlos Guillen ejected by HP umpire Marty Foster. (6th); Kansas City Royals Manager Buddy Bell ejected by HP umpire Marty Foster. (6th); Kansas City Royals pitcher Runelvys Hernandez ejected by HP umpire Marty Foster. (6th).

FlyingPig
07-17-2005, 05:06 PM
Helps to play the teams that are wose then your team ;)

At this point, I'll take what I can get..

I have a bet with a Yankee fan that the Reds will get out of last before the Yanks get into first..

:help:

Reds Nd2
07-17-2005, 05:14 PM
:eek:

After the 6th or 7th RBI, why would you still pitch to the guy?

He also set the record for most bases by a Red's player in that game with 15. I tried finding some info on it but all I could find was the final score. The Reds won the game 23-4.

Reds Nd2
07-17-2005, 05:19 PM
I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if #14 holds it

He wore #7.

KittyDuran
07-17-2005, 05:56 PM
As awful as this season has been, I've had a pretty good year of attending the games - now 29-10. Just beat the downpour [still got wet up in last row of the $5 seats] before the game. While Wright was mowing down the Reds I did enjoy (what I could see) the power boat races down by the Purple People Bridge. The ball was really flying.

Tommyjohn25
07-17-2005, 05:57 PM
Well, at least we're better than the Rockies now. ;)

DoogMinAmo
07-17-2005, 05:59 PM
As awful as this season has been, I've had a pretty good year of attending the games - now 29-10. Just beat the downpour [still got wet up in last row of the $5 seats] before the game. While Wright was mowing down the Reds I did enjoy (what I could see) the power boat races down by the Purple People Bridge. The ball was really flying.

Hah, that's nothing. I am undefeated this year. Granted I have only been to five games, small sample size my !@$%! :evil:

KittyDuran
07-17-2005, 06:03 PM
Hah, that's nothing. I am undefeated this year. Granted I have only been to five games, small sample size my !@$%! :evil:Hah, Hah - for shame... you live in Cincy and only been to five games :nono:. If I didn't live 30 miles away, I'd be at every game :( . Anyhoo, talk to Raisor about that small sample size... :devil:

traderumor
07-17-2005, 07:02 PM
Valentine 6 hr's and 22 RBI's in 106 at bats.He's gonna have one heck of a Strat card at this rate

CrackerJack
07-17-2005, 07:18 PM
The money shot for Valentin! :evil:

The most tasteless comment of the afternoon in reference to the big boppin', porn stache wearing hero of the game. :laugh:

KittyDuran
07-17-2005, 07:21 PM
The most tasteless comment of the afternoon in reference to the big boppin', porn stache wearing hero of the game. :laugh:What are we going to do if he shaves it off??? ;)