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CTA513
07-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Reds Brewers
1. R Freel, 3B 1. B Clark, CF
2. F Lopez, SS 2. R Weeks, 2B
3. S Casey, 1B 3. L Overbay, 1B
4. K Griffey Jr., CF 4. C Lee, LF
5. R Aurilia, 2B 5. G Jenkins, RF
6. A Dunn, LF 6. B Hall, SS
7. A Kearns, RF 7. W Helms, 3B
8. J Valentin, C 8. D Miller, C
9. B Claussen, P 9. V Santos, P

Game Time: 7:10 p.m. ET
Radio: WLW 700

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 07:10 PM
Today it's understandable not to have EE playing.

But...still insanity to have RA in front of Dunn and Kearns

Ravenlord
07-23-2005, 07:14 PM
for the love all that is holy, please trade Aurilia.

smith288
07-23-2005, 07:15 PM
I cant wait until Aurillia is gone. He is not a Red in my book. I just cant embrace the guy.

jmcclain19
07-23-2005, 07:18 PM
I picked up Aurilia on my fantasy team last week though. I feel dirty. He's doing ok for me.

But I do agree with the sentiment. He's just not a Red I tend to like. But I'll milk his recent streak for all it's worth.

DoogMinAmo
07-23-2005, 07:19 PM
This is Valentin's last day in the lineup before Jason comes back, I hope.

LvJ
07-23-2005, 07:33 PM
I think it's a total disgrace to the sport, hell - to AMERICA to have Aurilia batting ahead of Dunn and Kearns.

Johnny Vander m
07-23-2005, 07:38 PM
I never understood the hatred on this board for Aurilia and even Valentin. Sure Rich should not be batting no where but 8th but he is a good back up utility player and at very little cost. Hey I was there with you all when Lopez was sitting and RA was playing SS, but that was Mileys fault not Rich's. What was he to do, tell Miley I need to sit and let others play? "Hey Dave, don't let me play on a daily basis as I don't wan't to upset RedZoners" :help: :dunno:

Redmachine2003
07-23-2005, 07:39 PM
I think they want RA to get as many good pitches as he can with Runner on base to try and increase his trade value.

RosieRed
07-23-2005, 07:40 PM
What was he to do, tell Miley I need to sit and let others play? "Hey Dave, don't let me play on a daily basis as I don't wan't to upset RedZoners" :help: :dunno:

Exactly what he should have done! :p: ;)

Johnny Vander m
07-23-2005, 07:42 PM
Ok Rosie, :beerme: :D you win. I got a good laugh out of your answer.

smith288
07-23-2005, 08:04 PM
I never understood the hatred on this board for Aurilia and even Valentin. Sure Rich should not be batting no where but 8th but he is a good back up utility player and at very little cost. Hey I was there with you all when Lopez was sitting and RA was playing SS, but that was Mileys fault not Rich's. What was he to do, tell Miley I need to sit and let others play? "Hey Dave, don't let me play on a daily basis as I don't wan't to upset RedZoners" :help: :dunno: Its his whole attitude. His self entitlement when he was being benched. His sorry bush league treatment after Miley was fired, his complaining about playing short.

The guy would have bene fine in my book if he just kept a Jacob Cruz like profile. Cruz, I like, because he is just glad to be where he is and give 100% even though he is professional pinch hitter.

Joseph
07-23-2005, 08:08 PM
This is Valentin's last day in the lineup before Jason comes back, I hope.

Amen

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:11 PM
Clark doubles.

Johnny Vander m
07-23-2005, 08:11 PM
You are right Smith, I forgot about that attitude and also one time he complained that he didn't sign as a utility player. Where is my brain sometimes? I lothe the Aurilia signing! :bang: :devil:

GriffeyFan
07-23-2005, 08:11 PM
I don't think Rich really needs to be showcased. I mean, comeon, what is Rich really going to bring us in a trade? Nothing of any value. He won't bring us a prospect of half the quality of the pair we got for Randa.

Just the truth.

This lineup is exactly why Narron won't be back next year.

smith288
07-23-2005, 08:14 PM
You are right Smith, I forgot about that attitude and also one time he complained that he didn't sign as a utility player. Where is my brain sometimes? I lothe the Aurilia signing! :bang: :devil: Seriously, Aurillia is the Anti-Randa. I personally dont like him (professionally), never have and dont expect to in the future.

Ever see a person and just have a feeling you dont like them? Thats me with Aurillia.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:15 PM
Weeks singles, throwing error allows Weeks to go to 2nd and Clark to score.

1-0 Brewers.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:16 PM
Overbay homers.

3-0 Brewers.

gm
07-23-2005, 08:16 PM
Freel at 3rd all year, is that what you wanted, Puffy?

Matt700wlw
07-23-2005, 08:17 PM
Is Claussen hurt?

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:17 PM
I bet Claussen is still throwing 1st pitch fastballs.

pedro
07-23-2005, 08:17 PM
casey should have made that play.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:18 PM
Lee grounds out. 1 out.

RFS62
07-23-2005, 08:18 PM
Uh, can we get those new guys up here right away? Like, tonight?

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:20 PM
Jenkins strikes out. 2 outs.

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 08:20 PM
Get EE in there.

Maybe he can pitch? :D

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:21 PM
Hall flies out. 3 outs.

3-0 Brewers

Falls City Beer
07-23-2005, 08:22 PM
In this withering heat and humidity, I say Victor Santos looks just as bad as Claussen does. Strap yourselves in, this one's going to be a high-scoring affair.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:23 PM
Claussen is now sporting a 4.50 ERA.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:23 PM
Freel grounds out. 1 out.

Fullboat
07-23-2005, 08:23 PM
That Casey figurine is freaky

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:24 PM
Lopez flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:26 PM
Casey grounds out. 3 outs.

3-0 Brewers after 1 inning.

RosieRed
07-23-2005, 08:27 PM
9-pitch inning for Santos.

creek14
07-23-2005, 08:28 PM
Casey grounds out. 3 outs.

3-0 Brewers after 1 inning.
I'm at work, not listening. IF someone had been on, less than 2 outs, would that grounder been a double play? :devil: :evil: :devil:

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:30 PM
Helms singles.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:31 PM
Miller lines out. 1 out.

Mutaman
07-23-2005, 08:33 PM
It would have been nice to see Clausen step up and pitch a decent game tonight. Everytime I start to feel positve about this team they tank it.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:33 PM
Santos strikes out. 2 outs.

RFS62
07-23-2005, 08:34 PM
I'm at work, not listening. IF someone had been on, less than 2 outs, would that grounder been a double play? :devil: :evil: :devil:


Well, you might call it a PC, or Provisional Casey.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:36 PM
Clark pops out. 3 outs.

BoydsOfSummer
07-23-2005, 08:37 PM
Well that settles it. Marty and Hal give two thumbs up to the trade.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:39 PM
Griffey flies out. 1 out.

smith288
07-23-2005, 08:40 PM
Did Griffey swing at the first pitch? I think he saw all of 4 pitches last night total. :lol:

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:41 PM
Aurilia singles.

Fullboat
07-23-2005, 08:41 PM
Ya know we should diss....Aurilia more often.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:41 PM
Did Griffey swing at the first pitch? I think he saw all of 4 pitches last night total. :lol:

he saw 4 or 5 pitches in that at bat.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:43 PM
Dunn walks.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:46 PM
Kearns strikes out. 2 outs.

BoydsOfSummer
07-23-2005, 08:46 PM
Anybody watching the Bosox-ChiSox? My gawd El Duque has wicked ahhsum slider working tonight.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:48 PM
Valentin flies out. 3 outs.

3-0 Brewers after 2 innings.

oregonred
07-23-2005, 08:48 PM
Ya know we should diss....Aurilia more often.

Oddly enough Rich A has matched his career OPS # of .762.

Let him hit for another week in front of Dunn and pad his OPS and someone just might actually take him off our hands for a middling prospect...

Falls City Beer
07-23-2005, 08:49 PM
Next time through they're going to launch on Santos.

DoogMinAmo
07-23-2005, 08:50 PM
Claussen got touched up in the first, did he settle down, or is it all luck?

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:53 PM
Weeks pops out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:55 PM
Overbay flies out. 2 outs.

RFS62
07-23-2005, 08:56 PM
Say Hey, Junior.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:56 PM
Lee homers.

4-0 Brewers.

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 08:57 PM
This is not a good way for Claussen to start. he needs to settle down.

Aronchis
07-23-2005, 08:58 PM
Claussen looks to be going through some deadarm. He should be out of it by Augest.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:58 PM
Claussen has given up 17 homeruns, I think hes trying to ketch up with Milton & Ortiz.

:eek:

Fullboat
07-23-2005, 08:58 PM
Oddly enough Rich A has matched his career OPS # of .762.

Let him hit for another week in front of Dunn and pad his OPS and someone just might actually take him off our hands for a middling prospect...

Thats the idea oregonred and I'm sure the FO has told him to make the most of this opportunity because when EE comes up
and freel moves to sencond Rich will be sitting.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 08:58 PM
Jenkins strikes out. 3 outs.

4-0 Brewers.

DoogMinAmo
07-23-2005, 08:59 PM
He is getting squeezed on the outside now, no wonder the Brewers are teeing off.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:01 PM
Claussen grounds out. 1 out.

Puffy
07-23-2005, 09:02 PM
Freel at 3rd all year, is that what you wanted, Puffy?

The Reds are 14 games under .500 - would Freel at third until EdE was ready (which was a month ago) really have made them worse?? Not to mention the money going to pitching?

So yes, I would have taken that for more money going towards pitching.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:02 PM
He is getting squeezed on the outside now, no wonder the Brewers are teeing off.

I bet it doesnt help him out when he throws a 1st pitch fastball about 99.9% of the time.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:04 PM
Freel with and infield single.

DoogMinAmo
07-23-2005, 09:05 PM
I bet it doesnt help him out when he throws a 1st pitch fastball about 99.9% of the time.

Of the five hits he has given up today, the solo home run in the 3rd, and the leadoff double in the first came on the first pitch. And if it is pitch selection, is that not Valentin's fault?

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:07 PM
Of the five hits he has given up today, the solo home run in the 3rd, and the leadoff double in the first came on the first pitch. And if it is pitch selection, is that not Valentin's fault?

Larue caught the last game Claussen pitched and he threw a bunch of 1st pitch fastballs.... I think Claussen just likes to throw fastballs.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:07 PM
Lopez walks.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:07 PM
I bet the pitcher would feel a little different if it was Dunn in #3 hole

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:08 PM
Larue caught the last game Claussen pitched and he threw a bunch of 1st pitch fastballs.... I think Claussen just likes to throw fastballs.Claussen needs to learn to pitch off of his offspeed stuff against aggressive fastball hitting teams like the Cubs and Brewers.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:09 PM
Casey singles, Freel scores, Lopez to 3rd.

4-1 Brewers.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:10 PM
Griffey grounds in to a double play. 3 outs.

4-1 Brewers after 3 innings.

SteelSD
07-23-2005, 09:10 PM
Griffey grounds into a Casey. Three down.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:10 PM
Jr with a first pitch DP

smith288
07-23-2005, 09:12 PM
Jr with a first pitch DP I think Griffey is getting into a habit into a game of swinging at anything close on the first pitch.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:13 PM
Booker picked up save #14 in the first game of a DH

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:14 PM
I think Griffey is getting into a habit into a game of swinging at anything close on the first pitch.sportsline shoed the pitch as at the bottom of the strike zone. However, I don't know if it really was.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:14 PM
Hall strikes out. 1 out.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:18 PM
Helms walks.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:21 PM
Miller walks.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:22 PM
Santos attempts to bunt, but pops out. 2 outs.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:23 PM
Clark hit by pitch, bases loaded.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:24 PM
weeks can come close to putting this away

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 09:25 PM
How many pitches has Claussen thrown?

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:25 PM
How many pitches has Claussen thrown?

Right now hes at about 82 pitches.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:27 PM
Weeks walks, 1 run scores.

5-1 Brewers.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:27 PM
that should be it

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:27 PM
bases loaded for Overbay....

smith288
07-23-2005, 09:28 PM
Yea Claussen...putting them right where we want them.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:28 PM
Brewers have scored on 3 walks and a HBP

Overbay is 7-10 off of Claussen

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 09:28 PM
Claussen looks like he's got nothing tonight.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:29 PM
Grand Slam!

9-1 Brewers.

Aronchis
07-23-2005, 09:29 PM
Narron is a idiot for letting Claussen pitch to Overbay, he has all the classic signs of deadarm, yet he lets him continue to struggle.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:30 PM
Claussen looks like he's got nothing tonight.he should already be gone

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 09:30 PM
Nice work Claussen.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:31 PM
Claussen with a nice 5.00 ERA

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:31 PM
That was Miley Jr letting him pitch to Overbay when he was 7-10 with 3 HRs. now 8-11 with 4 HRs

Sorry but I am not the least bit impressed by Narron. Game is over because Narron was asleep at the wheel.

SteelSD
07-23-2005, 09:32 PM
Claussen had nothing tonight. Just nothing. I continue to hold that he can survive only sporadically at his current velocity.

Aronchis
07-23-2005, 09:33 PM
Claussen had nothing tonight. Just nothing. I continue to hold that he can survive only sporadically at his current velocity.

But the previous starts before the ASB, he was hitting 91-92 on the gun.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:33 PM
Claussen had nothing tonight. Just nothing. I continue to hold that he can survive only sporadically at his current velocity.his current velocity is where he has been all year. His is way too hittable, which describes almost every pitcher on the staff.

BTW, Coffey is the most hittable pitcher on the staff.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:35 PM
Brandon's problem is his off speed stuff isn't that good and when his location with his fastball is a little off he struggles. 88, 91 ... not much a differnce. He has to be precise with his location and he has never consistently shown that ability, post TJ

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:36 PM
Isnt that 2 times in a row that Claussen has killed a 3 game winning streak?

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:37 PM
Any chance Keisler or Belisle can get a start or will they be stuck in the bullpen forever?

corkedbat
07-23-2005, 09:38 PM
I think D0 brought Milton in partly as an example to the young arms on the staff -and Brandon has been paying careful attention. :bang:

SteelSD
07-23-2005, 09:40 PM
But the previous starts before the ASB, he was hitting 91-92 on the gun.

Boy, I didn't see that. I saw him at 87-91, but I sure didn't see him consistently at 91-92 MPH.

Aronchis
07-23-2005, 09:40 PM
Brandon's problem is his off speed stuff isn't that good and when his location with his fastball is a little off he struggles. 88, 91 ... not much a differnce. He has to be precise with his location and he has never shown that ability, post TJ

Claussen didn't get by on offspeed stuff in the first place. His minor league career was built on power pitching and a nasty breaking pitch. He would mix in a cutter with it and that was all he needed.

His velocity has fluxed this year, from peeking out in the high 80's in April to the low 90's in May and June. That has been his MO since return from TJ surgury. Some guys just don't return from it though the odds are good for most.

Aronchis
07-23-2005, 09:41 PM
Boy, I didn't see that. I saw him at 87-91, but I sure didn't see him consistently at 91-92 MPH.

In April he didn't, but around May, he was around 89-92mph much more often and it showed in his starts.

Red in Chicago
07-23-2005, 09:42 PM
That was Miley Jr letting him pitch to Overbay when he was 7-10 with 3 HRs. now 8-11 with 4 HRs

Sorry but I am not the least bit impressed by Narron. Game is over because Narron was asleep at the wheel.

couldn't have said it any better myself...this game has become a joke.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:42 PM
should Claussen make his next start or be given time to rest?

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:43 PM
Claussen didn't get by on offspeed stuff in the first place. His minor league career was built on power pitching and a nasty breaking pitch.which he doesn't have anymore. What was once a nasty slider is now a rolling slurve. His fastball isn't good enough anymore, without quality breaking stuff he will not succeed.

Aronchis
07-23-2005, 09:45 PM
which he doesn't have anymore. What was once a nasty slider is now a rolling slurve. His fastball isn't good enough anymore, without quality breaking stuff he will not succeed.

Yuppers, TJ took away his best two pitches. I would let him throw "max" effort in the bullpen and check if he regains some of his stuff there.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:50 PM
Yuppers, TJ took away his best two pitches. I would let him throw "max" effort in the bullpen and check if he regains some of his stuff there.I saw a post TJ start in Louisville right after the trade. He struck out 10 in 6 innings, mostly on the nasty slider. He had righties hacking at that thing, it was bouncing in the dirt down and in. After the Reds shut him down in August of that year I have never seen that slider again.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:51 PM
Honestly Keisler has better stuff than Claussen does. I am not talking tonight because I am not watching.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:54 PM
BTW, Claussen ought to make his next start.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 09:54 PM
Honestly Keisler has better stuff than Claussen does. I am not talking tonight because I am not watching.

Id like to see him given a chance at starting, but I dont see it happening unless one of the starters gets hurt.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 09:58 PM
Id like to see him given a chance at starting, but I dont see it happening unless one of the starters gets hurt.I don't really think Keisler is any kind of a long term solution.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:02 PM
freel steals down by 8?

CTA513
07-23-2005, 10:02 PM
I don't really think Keisler is any kind of a long term solution.

When the starting pitching is as bad as the Reds, they should try out all options before settling with what they have.

WVRedsFan
07-23-2005, 10:04 PM
Casey Walks!

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:06 PM
Santos closing in on 90 pitches

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:08 PM
game might look a little different if Keisler had pitched to Overbay.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 10:09 PM
Dunn doubles in 2 runs, goes to 3rd on error.

RFS62
07-23-2005, 10:09 PM
What a shame we can't pitch.

An incredible, stinkin' shame.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 10:10 PM
game might look a little different if Keisler had pitched to Overbay.

Narron was too slow to pull the trigger.

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 10:10 PM
whats the score now?

CTA513
07-23-2005, 10:11 PM
whats the score now?

9-5 Brewers.

SteelSD
07-23-2005, 10:11 PM
9-5 Mil

RosieRed
07-23-2005, 10:11 PM
9-5 Brewers

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 10:11 PM
9-5

GAC
07-23-2005, 10:11 PM
Claussen 90 pitches in a little over 3 innings?? OUCH!

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:12 PM
Narron was too slow to pull the trigger.I said that at the time. Brewers scored 5 on 1 hit in that inning.

Dunn got a hit with RISP?

Everytime Dunn steps to the plate there is a runner is scoring position.

SteelSD
07-23-2005, 10:12 PM
Kearns popped out on 3-2 count. Dunn has to hold. Valentin coming up.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 10:12 PM
Marty already tired of Kearns.

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 10:14 PM
We need Dunn to score.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 10:15 PM
Santos is given a 9-1 lead and gives up 4 runs... so this is what its like to face Reds pitching. ;)

LvJ
07-23-2005, 10:15 PM
Watching the Sox-Sox game on WGN ... it's funny listening to these guys.

Crede full count walk, Uribe comes up and grounds into a double play. Right when Uribe swung, I think Ken said "Awwww" ... and then it was complete silence. No "4-6-3" .. just "awww" .. :laugh:

This brings up the question, would you rather have quaility annoucers who favor no team (or sometimes the other team, grande!) .. or crappy annoucers who are total homers? :thumbup:

SteelSD
07-23-2005, 10:17 PM
Valentin flys out to Jenkins (hit it very hard).

To say that Valentin is a high-ball hitter would be an understatement.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:17 PM
I do love the Hawk's strikeout call - "grab some bench".

Jaycint
07-23-2005, 10:18 PM
I can't stand those homers for the White Sox. Ken Harrelson is horrible. Give me two professional, unbiased guys any day of the week. I have that Sox game on but it's on mute. :)

WVRedsFan
07-23-2005, 10:19 PM
Narron was too slow to pull the trigger.

Exactly. If he had pulled Claussen, the game might be tied.

Is it just me or do umpires squeeze Claussen all the time. It seemed like Brandon wasn't getting the corner pitches so to get strikes, he was leaving himself open for the big fly.

Either way, Narron did his best Miley-Gullett impression on that one.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:19 PM
Valentin flys out to Jenkins (hit it very hard).

To say that Valentin is a high-ball hitter would be an understatement.Javier doesn't get cheated either. He gets his rips. The first HR he hit off a Maddux on Thursday was a knee high curve, it was impressive because he launched it way up in the air.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 10:22 PM
Most of the announcers I don't like, but I'm sort of coming around on these Brewer's announcers (T.V.).

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:23 PM
BTW, I have a feeling Aurilia doesn't mind batting in front of Dunn. Either a K or basehit in every at bat in the 5 hole.

SteelSD
07-23-2005, 10:32 PM
Awful 0-1 pitch to Carlos Lee and two more Runs put on the board.

Two Out damage just killing the Reds tonight.

RFS62
07-23-2005, 10:32 PM
I think we're going to have to go to the nickel defense.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:33 PM
bad mistake giving lee anything to hit with jenkins behind him

SteelSD
07-23-2005, 10:33 PM
I think we're going to have to go to the nickel defense.

Well, we're now sure that we need to go for two on every possession from here on out.

oneupper
07-23-2005, 10:36 PM
Javier doesn't get cheated either. He gets his rips. The first HR he hit off a Maddux on Thursday was a knee high curve, it was impressive because he launched it way up in the air.

Valentin's GO/AO ratio is lower than Dunn's. He gets the ball into the air.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:39 PM
I think we're going to have to go to the nickel defense.I was thinking four corners and keep the ball away from them

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 10:44 PM
Olmedo in for Felo, Standridge pitching.

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 10:46 PM
Lets hope Standridge has another good outing.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:49 PM
Lets hope Standridge has another good outing.Standridge is a pitcher with "stuff" - hard sinking fastball and a tight hard curve. he just isn't sure where it is going most of the time.

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 10:50 PM
The post Randa era is not off to a good start ;)

RFS62
07-23-2005, 10:50 PM
I was thinking four corners and keep the ball away from them


Yeah, have to go with the no huddle the next three possessions.

RFS62
07-23-2005, 10:51 PM
Ya know, that Freel over at third base, he's scrappy. Thing is, so is a weasel on crack.

Speed kills, Ryan.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 10:53 PM
Yeah, Freel'll make ya want to kill something every once in a while.

Aronchis
07-23-2005, 10:54 PM
Hudson is pitching tomorrow by the way ;)

RFS62
07-23-2005, 10:55 PM
Ya know, I'm really happy for Brady Clark.

He deserves the success he's having this year.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 10:55 PM
Ya know, that Freel over at third base, he's scrappy. Thing is, so is a weasel on crack.

Speed kills, Ryan. :beerme:

CTA513
07-23-2005, 10:56 PM
Hudson is pitching tomorrow by the way ;)

We can only hope its Tim Hudson in Luke Hudsons uniform.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 10:57 PM
Standridge ERA has made its way from over 11.00 to 3.72.

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 10:58 PM
Great job Standridge. :)

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:03 PM
I love watching Casey run. It's comedy, pure comedy.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:04 PM
I love watching Casey run. It's comedy, pure comedy.kind of like the Tasmanian Devil. Parts going all different directions.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:04 PM
11-6. Dunn bloop single scores Casey.

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:05 PM
I like that Dunn guy

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:05 PM
back to back hits with RISP.

What is BF going to have to complain about?

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 11:05 PM
Way to go Dunn.

Aronchis
07-23-2005, 11:05 PM
This the hottest Dunn has been since April.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:05 PM
kind of like the Tasmanian Devil. Parts going all different directions.

Plus his helmet goes flying off 90% of the time. It's really ridiculous.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:06 PM
I wonder if I'm faster than Casey. I wonder if he's just slow for an athlete, or slow period.

CTA513
07-23-2005, 11:06 PM
I love watching Casey run. It's comedy, pure comedy.

Have you seen Bengie Molina run? lol I watched an Angels game the other day and its like he was running in 2 feet of mud. :laugh:

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:07 PM
...why the heck is Lopez out and RA still in?

You know..you don't ALWAYS have to double switch, letting the pitcher swing won't kill ya ;)

CTA513
07-23-2005, 11:08 PM
Kearns with a sac fly.

11-7 Brewers.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:08 PM
Sac fly for Kearns. On a diving catch for Jenkins.

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:08 PM
Kearns has that sac fly special something

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 11:09 PM
Well we are trying to make this a game.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:09 PM
Now would be a nice time for Valentin's home run de jur.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:11 PM
Now would be a nice time for Valentin's home run de jur.

Is it de jur or de jure?

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:11 PM
Grey poupon?

RosieRed
07-23-2005, 11:13 PM
Du jour?

TylerScottDavis
07-23-2005, 11:16 PM
What just happened to Weathers?

LexingtonRedsFan
07-23-2005, 11:16 PM
Nice to see Weathers back on the mound

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:16 PM
I think your right.

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 11:16 PM
Thats it Rosie. You are correct.

RosieRed
07-23-2005, 11:16 PM
Thats it Rosie. You are correct.

Yay! What do I win? :)

TylerScottDavis
07-23-2005, 11:17 PM
MLB Gameday showed a choaching visit to the mound and an Injury Delay, but he's pitching again now.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:17 PM
Carlos Lee is good.

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:17 PM
Yay! What do I win? :)

Grey Poupon!

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:18 PM
Yay! What do I win? :)

rep points from all around.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:18 PM
Is it de jur or de jure?du jour

I know de jure is "by law"

RFS62
07-23-2005, 11:18 PM
Du jour?

oui

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:21 PM
Dunn in July - 20 games

68AB 18R 19H 7HR 21RBI 16BB 19K

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 11:21 PM
I hope RA does not get the 550 Plate appearances. There is a 2 million dollar option for 06 if he does.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:21 PM
du jour

I know de jure is "by law"

Man, I was way off. :bang:

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:26 PM
Dunn in July - 20 games

68AB 18R 19H 7HR 21RBI 16BB 19K

Best player on the team.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:27 PM
Best player on the team.heck no ... Reds need to trade their only sure thing

RFS62
07-23-2005, 11:27 PM
Damn. Ryan, get your head in the game

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:27 PM
Jacob Cruz is cool
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_112901.jpg

Ryan!!

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:28 PM
pop goes the weasel. Shoot the weasel

CTA513
07-23-2005, 11:28 PM
Freel has 2 errors and now got picked off 1st.

Big Klu
07-23-2005, 11:29 PM
Jacob Cruz is cool
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_112901.jpg

He looks like a beatnik poet.

"Like cool, man...." :cool:

RFS62
07-23-2005, 11:30 PM
To Freel, coffee is probably a sedative.

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:31 PM
So Freel's got 2 hits a walk, and a stolen base. But also a throwing error and got picked off. Sounds about right. Guess he also scored twice, guess the good out weighs the bad.

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:36 PM
He's better at 2nd...slightly

EE is better at 3rd then on the bench

Just sayin

RFS62
07-23-2005, 11:39 PM
Wow, Austin's cousin on the mound

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:39 PM
I'd hate to have to bat against Turnbow.

RFS62
07-23-2005, 11:40 PM
Dude looks like a taxi cab with the doors open

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:40 PM
Griff 0-5.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:40 PM
I think Jr needs a day off

Gainesville Red
07-23-2005, 11:44 PM
When's the last time the Reds had someone who threw 99-100?

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:45 PM
did RA actually K on a ball over his head

CTA513
07-23-2005, 11:45 PM
With Hudson pitching tomorrow the Reds will probably lose, lets hope they decided to let Belisle have his start.

flyer85
07-23-2005, 11:45 PM
When's the last time the Reds had someone who threw 99-100?Dibble

KronoRed
07-23-2005, 11:49 PM
11-7 Final

Bad guys win

Gallen5862
07-23-2005, 11:51 PM
Hopefully EE gets the start tommorrow.

oneupper
07-23-2005, 11:52 PM
11-7 Final

Bad guys win

Good guys go back to the cellar.

oneupper
07-23-2005, 11:53 PM
did RA actually K on a ball over his head

yep...a Piņata.

gm
07-24-2005, 12:36 AM
The Reds are 14 games under .500 - would Freel at third until EdE was ready (which was a month ago) really have made them worse?? Not to mention the money going to pitching?

So yes, I would have taken that for more money going towards pitching.

I'll say this one last time, and with Joe's move west the subject should be closed.

The Reds thought so much of Freel as a starting 3rd baseman that they had Austin Kearns working out at the hot corner, last winter.

Then they signed Randa.

Based on Ryan's 2 errors today...the Reds could've been lot a lot worse off without Randa during the first half of 2005, thank goodness we didn't have to find out how much

Don't you need somebody to loathe?

gm
07-24-2005, 12:42 AM
Kearns popped out on 3-2 count. Dunn has to hold. Valentin coming up.

Liner/flare to RF that Jenkins laid out to catch

(edit: my bad, the liner to Geoff was Kearn's next AB)

gm
07-24-2005, 12:50 AM
Most of the announcers I don't like, but I'm sort of coming around on these Brewer's announcers (T.V.).

Daron Sutton and Bill Schroeder. Sutton is the son of Don and Bill was a backup catcher for the Brewers in the early '80s. I've been listening to 'em for 5+ years and their act hasn't gotten old. FSN north always seems to be broadcasting the Red's games, and I'd rather listen to Daron and Bill than George and the Creeper calling the action

They'll be interviewing Junior and Brady Clark tomorrow before the game, if you've got DirecTV it should be on channel 642

gm
07-24-2005, 12:59 AM
MLB Gameday showed a choaching visit to the mound and an Injury Delay, but he's pitching again now.

Dave just made a deliberate motion with his arm ("I've gotta stay on top of the ball") and the coaches thought he might be injured. Schroeder joked when catchers get nailed by a foul tip the bench just laughs, but when pitchers grimace the trainer sends out 15 ambulances. :D

DoogMinAmo
07-24-2005, 12:59 AM
The sooner Aurilia is traded, the sooner he won't be out there(how deep is that?). He is only out there now for shining purposes. If there are no takers by the 31st, I guarantee it (for whatever it is worth), Aurilia will not be an everyday starter.

gm
07-24-2005, 01:02 AM
Freel has 2 errors and now got picked off 1st.

Ryan's got an arm for the outfield, where accuracy is relative

Ravenlord
07-24-2005, 01:03 AM
Ryan's got an arm for the outfield, where accuracy is relativehe's got a better one for 2B.

gm
07-24-2005, 01:04 AM
When's the last time the Reds had someone who threw 99-100?

Marc Kroon?

gm
07-24-2005, 01:17 AM
he's got a better one for 2B.

I suspect that if Freel was given a month of starts at 2B fans would change their tune...but I doubt he'll ever be given the opportunity (in Cincy, or elsewhere)

Ryan's the best defensive CF'er on the roster (a faster Brady Clark?) but unless Casey & Griffey are dealt he won't get a regular gig there, either

Best role for the amped-up weasel? The one he has--utilityman. Over-expose him and he'll wind up back on the DL